Gonzo the Dragonborn
”Hagler was a great fighter, I’ll admit that, but he couldn’t box. He could load and throw, but that’s not boxing”
Can I have a toke of that when you’re done with it Brother Tark? lolPosted July 3, 2013 7:16 am
TJ…. There are no facts that show Hagler was one of the 3 greatest middleweights.. And “boxing scribes” know nothing.. They may like boxing but they don’t know boxing.. And there is a much more varied opinion on Hagler than you think — especially since Leonard is the only one close to his weight where you could say it was a boxing match … and Leonard was coming off a 3-year layoff with one fight in the previous 5 years.. Leonard knew he was going to win because he could see Hagler couldn’t really jab pudgy little Duran well, attack him well, or counter with a straight left well.
Hagler was a great fighter, I’ll admit that, but he couldn’t box. He could load and throw, but that’s not boxing.
Any great middleweight boxer beats Hagler because he lacked a good jab and good straight left… Prime Monzon, Valdez, Toney, Jones, Hopkins, Martinez, Reggie Johnson, Nunn, McCallum, Golovkin, would all be too skilled for him. If you look over his middleweight opponents they all had the skill level of Macklin, Pavlik, Williams or worse …
Hearns did box Hagler… He fought him in a phone booth.. Stupid strategy.. Just like he was doing when Barkley nailed Tommy.. I blame Steward for letting Tommy slug and telling him to take Hagler out.. It takes more than skill.. You have to have a brain.Posted July 2, 2013 5:24 pm
Please someone kick this ghostrider turd off of here. Your breath stink worse than duduPosted July 2, 2013 2:48 pm
TJ goes balls deep in his neighbour’s dog’s ass.Posted July 2, 2013 12:44 pm
WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS TELL U GHOSRIDER that they will C U Next Tuesday or sometimes C U Next Thursday?????
Maybe GHOSTRIDER, it’s because you are the world’s biggest Cun…. Oh, well… I’m sure we’ll all have the displeasure to be C’ing U Next Tuesday!Posted July 2, 2013 12:41 pm
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Call TJPosted July 2, 2013 6:02 am
YOU CALL YOURSELF GHOSTRIDER, but the nearest thing you get to riding is when you’re turning tricks on the street corner for a bag of fries or your latest fix of meth amphetamines, you d*pe head, cr*ck head, block head, TOOL. Go crawl back under the stone you came from you ignorant TROLL.
You’re a ras – yes, the sort people use to wipe the faeces from their bottoms and then dash down the toilet when they’ve finished getting the excreta from their behinds.
JUST get GHOST like SWAYZE and disappear!Posted July 2, 2013 3:38 am
I have never attacked you personally… In fact it is the opposite… you constantly attack others…
Read other posts on this forum -even today – and you will see I often agree with you or praise you, but in this instance I am just stating facts and the facts are that every knowledgeable scribe throughout my 30 years in the game has praised MARVELOUS MARVIN HAGLER- who you know is not one of my favourites as he destroyed my favourite THOMAS HEARNS in 3.
Don’t try and mislead the readers on this site….
I give you praise when you merit it, but point out your flaws too as you will agree sometimes you are seriously pompous with your viewpoints and don’t allow others to have there’s – even if they back it up with facts/ observations!Posted July 2, 2013 3:20 am
TJ and Boxer Puncher…. You guys have no argument so you attack me personally… Personal attacks and no arguments … Be MEN.. Explain Hagler’s poor showings and his failings.
You know Rodrigo Valdez flattened a prime Bennie Briscoe with one punch.. Hagler’s fight with an aged and washed up Briscoe resembled a sparring session..
You know Marcos Geraldo was knocked out 10 times previously when he fought Hagler.. You know that fight resembled a slow sparring session, and Hagler couldn’t stop Geraldo or floor him.
You know Sugar Ray Leonard was coming off a 3-year-layoff when he whipped Hagler… Leonard fought one fight in the previous 5 years.
Don’t give me any bull about how he could match up with Carlos Monzon, who went over 80 fights, fighting the best middleweights in the world, fought more successful title defenses than Hagler against better middleweights, and didn’t lose to a welterweight..
Monzon crushed ATG welterweight Jose Napoles like a Middleweight Champion should.Posted July 1, 2013 6:23 pm
TJ walks into a bar
Bartender says, ”How can I help you?”
TJ replies, ”Can I suck your co.ck?”Posted July 1, 2013 4:34 pm
JUST because your mum is the local ho, turning tricks at Macdonalds don’t take your anst out on me…
ALSO, don’t mistake me for whoever’s farts you can smell when you are felching them aided by the free straws you get from MacDonalds from your mum’s tips!
Go and stick your head up your boyfriend’s backside and please forget to breathe for more than 90 seconds, you TOOL!Posted July 1, 2013 11:04 am
EVERY SINGLE KNOWLEDGEABLE fight scribe from Hugh McIlvaney, Colin Hart, Burt Randoph Sugar (RIP), has written that MARVELOUS MARVIN HAGLER was one of perhaps the three finest Middlleweights of any genereation…
This hurts me as I am a THOMAS HEARNS fan, but I grew up watching Marvin hammer his opponents, no matter where he had to go to do it…. He made switch hitting something of a must for boxers and fight fans alike, just like FLOYD has made the art of defence into something of an art form for all of us today!
Imitation is one of the highest forms of flattery!Posted July 1, 2013 8:12 am
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Go away you brainless TOOL!Posted July 1, 2013 8:05 am
boxer puncher is just another sredmond character.Posted July 1, 2013 8:01 am
TJ scoots like a dog when he gets an itchy assPosted July 1, 2013 7:57 am
Fish Eyes Wrote
TARK is spouting his usual TARK-ISMS again.. Bending the facts to try and prove his pointless point to less clued up boxing fans.. Lucky that we have posters here such as Boxer Puncher that can see through his veil of crap.
Thanks Fish Eyes. Give yourself credit also for being knowledgeable enough to see right through Tarks BS.Posted July 1, 2013 7:46 am
Boxer Puncher, you have a huge point / comma problem.Posted July 1, 2013 7:26 am
I MEANT TO WRITE RE JOE CALZGHE, that he would not have been able to compete and save his unbeaten record against the likes of FRANKLIN, GREAGORY, LOPEZ, JOHNSON, SPINKS, BRAXTON, SUPERMAN SCOTT and the list goes on and on and on!!!!Posted July 1, 2013 7:25 am
You are correct about the weak era of the likes of Bernard Hopkins and Joe Calzaghe racking up 20 defences in…
Although B-Hop has proven against, young strong men at a higher weight (!68 and 175) that he would have been a handful in any era.
I believe so too would Calzaghe but I wish he wouldn’t give us the same old BS that he actually fought anyone that was good and in their prime.
Joe was really a Light Heavy lucky enough to fight at 168 (with a day’s weigh-in grace)!
Just think BOTH Joe Calzaghe and SVEN OTTKE amassed 20 title defences each at the same period at 168….. Seven fought consistently better opponents and without any sought of punch!
IMHO this shows how WEAK the division was between 1997 and 2007!!!
B-Hop is still swinging for the fences because he had old school teaching from the likes of Bouie Fischer (RIP)! Whereas the modern day teaching on the whole is lacking (although this is being addressed with a slew of knew, keen trainers eager to learn from the old ways and implement with the new)!Posted July 1, 2013 7:22 am
TARK is spouting his usual TARK-ISMS again.. Bending the facts to try and prove his pointless point to less clued up boxing fans.. Lucky that we have posters here such as Boxer Puncher that can see through his veil of crap.Posted July 1, 2013 7:18 am
Boxer Puncher… You are so ignorant it stinks..
Hagler even admitted he would probably lose to Monzon..
Monzon beat Rodrigo Valdez TWICE..
Rodrigo Valdez was faster, harder punching, and more skilled than ANY natural middleweight Hagler ever fought in his life.. Monzon went more than 80 fights without suffering a defeat at the end of his career.. He had more successful title defenses, fought 98 fights, and retired at an older age than Hag.
Rodrigo Valdez smashed a PRIME Bennie Briscoe STIFF with ONE (1) powerhouse left hook.. Hagler couldn’t even knock an AGED Bennie Briscoe down… It was another timid sparring session like Hagler’s pedestrian decision over Marcos Geraldo… A guy who 10 other middleweights previously knocked out — and Hagler couldn’t even put the China-chin down.
Don’t tell me about all the tough guys Hagler fought because there weren’t any.. He never had to face a natural prime middleweight who was any good.Posted June 30, 2013 11:51 pm
And carlos monzon was a flat footed methodical fighter and not versatile, he won most his fights on toughness a good jab, good power and attrition, he would have been battered over the distance in a convincing win for hagler, there probably wouldn’t have been a ko because monzon was tough I will give him that, but he was not as versatile and skilled as hagler, hagler was every bit as tough as monzon, punched harder and was much more of a complete and versatile fighter in every dept, hagler by punishing, convincing 15 rd decision.Posted June 30, 2013 10:05 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Clowns are saying Mack is an average nobody to try and take away from GGG’s extraordinary performance last night. It’s pure B.S.!
FACT: Mack damn nearly beat Maravilla. He knocked SM down in the 7th and was leading on ALL cards after 10 rounds. And he should have won a major MW Title/Strap when he boxed Sturm’s ears off in Germany, but got ROBBED.
Mack is one of the very best 4-7 MWs in the world, and the way in which Triple G effortlessly sliced-up his face and brutally stopped him with a left hook to the liver was astounding.
GGG is the P4P BEST boxer in the entire world, hands down. He’s the absolute truth. ‘The Natural.” Real talk.Posted June 30, 2013 9:07 pm
If hagler had fought in hopkins weak era and faced his weak competition and had gotten his first title shot at around 20 fights like hopkins did, hagler would have had 45-50 successful title defenses no doubt in my mind.Posted June 30, 2013 8:58 pm
Hopkins never beat a great fighter in their prime he lost to jones in his prime by being battered from pilar to post he fought in the weakest MW division ever and struggled with fighters hagler would have slaughtered within 3-4 rds. Who is tavoris cloud and jean pascal, he beat a weight drained tarver he pulled the tarver on tarver ,he had tarver lose close to 50 pounds in a short period of time to face him, much like tarver did to jones with similar results. Please get real Hopkins is simply schooling green very limted one dimensional fighters and padding his record.Posted June 30, 2013 8:33 pm
Glen Johnson… Roy Jones Jr… Antonio Tarver… Jean Pascal… Travoris Cloud… Five World Light Heavyweight Champions beaten by Middleweight Champion Bernard Hopinks — who defended the Middlleweight Championship 20 times.Posted June 30, 2013 8:25 pm
Whoah…when Golovkin puts his hands in his pockets he should be arrested for possessing concealed weapons.Posted June 30, 2013 7:03 pm
Gennady should clean out the middleweight division (if that is possible) before moving to to face anyone at 168 though I wouldn’t argue with a Froch Kessler or Ward match up that’s for sure …………..Posted June 30, 2013 6:44 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
13 STOPPAGES IN A ROW!!!
Come on Floyd…. if you think your the GOAT, fight Triple G at 154lbs!Posted June 30, 2013 6:28 pm
Macklin is no bum….gennady was just to good for him.
Macklin is far from a BUM…..GGG IS JUST THAT DAMN GOODPosted June 30, 2013 5:38 pm
Interesting now Macklin is a bum because he lost to a superbly conditioned, well trained , powerful fighter?. Golovkin is a superb athlete I will really look forward to seeing more of his fights, & I would not refer to Macklin as a bum either.Posted June 30, 2013 5:25 pm
he does have skill taking all kinds of amatuer trinkets and a silver medal in the olympics obviosly he is schooled and with blunt power = devastation to all opponents. diffenantly not a hype job.Posted June 30, 2013 3:42 pm
…..,”The second coming of Marvin Hagler”….. You’re forgetting a few things.
Hagler already lost to Bobby Watts and Willie Monroe when he fought 10 times previously KO’d Marcos Geraldo… That fight was a pedestrian affair that had less action than Mitchell vs Banks II.. It took Hagler two (2) tries to win the Middleweight Championship..
One of Hagler’s title defenses was against a guy who fought his first 67 fights as a lightweight.. It didn’t exactly set the house on fire.. In fact it drew boos from the crowd when Hagler started dancing around.
One of Haglers title defenses was against a welterweight making his 1st start after a 3-year layoff.. That challenger had fought only one fight in the previous 5 years.. Hagler lost that fight too — and decided to quit boxing at 32, when he was just a little older than GGG…
The reason Marv quit was because Leonard didn’t seem anxious to fight him again for a reasonable purse split — and there were some great young middleweights contenders coming ujp who were better than any natural 160-pounder Hagler ever fought.. Guys like Michael Nunn, Mike McCallum etc… Hagler said, “I ddin’t want to embarrass myself fighting these young guys.”
During the last 3 years of his Championship reign, 1985, 1986, and 1987, Hagler fought only one (1) fight a year and fought lighter fighters moving up in weight.. I don’t blame Marv for retiring because Leonard refused to face Michael Nunn or Mike McCallum as well.. Leonard was stripped of the title he won from Hagler … and fought who he damned well pleased.
So GGG… with a better winning ratio… better KO ratio… and who would be favored to beat great Middleweight Champions Sergio Martinez and undefeated Peter Quillin if he fought them both on the same night — definitely is looking more impessive than Hagler.Posted June 30, 2013 3:10 pm
Its still unknow to say 100% that triple g is the next super star because he hssdnt fought a 100% top level guy, but to say he is a hype job is really stupid. Look triple g is completly destroying b+ level fighters with ease, he isnt even breaking a sweat doing so which means when he gets inbthe ring with a A+ type fighter he will do really well based on his pefformance of fighting really good fighters.Posted June 30, 2013 12:25 pm
What are all of these subhuman slavs doing in my the fatherland?Posted June 30, 2013 12:23 pm
GGG is the real MF deal. That was the most brutal body KO in years.Posted June 30, 2013 10:46 am
TestPosted June 30, 2013 9:46 am
“Golovkin is a hype job much like the second coming of Edison Miranda and Kelly Pavlik fighters many were touting as the second coming of Marvin Hagler when I heard that I was the first to shout boxing blasphemy it wasn’t long before they were exposed as limited one dimensional fighters. ”
WTF does this garbled unpunctuated gibberish mean?Posted June 30, 2013 9:41 am
“That’s what happens when you fight rusty, injured fighters who have made their name by getting KOéd by a real champion who won his belt.” Woop Woop you’re the only one complaining about Macklin being “injured.” Not even Macklin himself used that BS for an excuse.Posted June 30, 2013 9:39 am
“Kid chocolate or chavez jr should be next for ggg ” Chavez Jr. is irrelevant at this point in time. He needs a couple of come-back fights before he takes on Golovkin. Quillin would be a good opponent because GGG hasn’t fought a boxer with Quillin’s skills. Or speed. I would like to see Golovkin face and beat Martinez however. Murray nearly turned out to be the spoiler for Martinez. I think Golovkin most certainly would end Martinez’s career.Posted June 30, 2013 9:37 am
Bradley walks around close to 200Posted June 30, 2013 8:43 am
Very impressed with GGG, it’s the first time I’ve watched him. Would love to see him in against my man Froch who’d take his power and give him hell back. GGG is 1 of 4 HBO have on a list for Froch and I’d love to see it get made.Posted June 30, 2013 7:16 am
the guy is a f*kn predator in that ring, stalking its prey, cold and calculated and goes for the kill,that’s a hard style to beat.Posted June 30, 2013 7:11 am
I will say right now that he would blast old man Martinez out within 6 rds,easy,but Martinez will come out with BS lame excuses not to fight, like who is GGG? Ive never heard of him, that kind of BS, rather than be honest and say no way he’l rip my head off.Posted June 30, 2013 7:08 am
medlar ,who then?Posted June 30, 2013 7:01 am
An impressive performance and well done ggg. How good is he? We don’t know yet but I’m looking fwd to finding out.Posted June 30, 2013 7:00 am
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GGG is the triple treatPosted June 30, 2013 6:03 am
“maravilla” will never step into the ring with TTriple G he don’t have the ballsPosted June 30, 2013 5:35 am
WOW that Golovkin is a good fighter isn’t he .Posted June 30, 2013 5:28 am
GGG is the real deal… Macklin said to sky sports ” that he easily the best kid he has ever been in the ring with ” …. be great if he steps up after a few more fights, and gives it to the arrogant pri*k ward..Posted June 30, 2013 5:24 am
well it looks like this guy GGG IS for real, that takes some doing blasting Mack in 3, tough loss for Mack it will be hard to remain top level after such a crushing defeat, he should come back to UK and start fighting, Murray, Barker, BJ Saunders, there is where the rest of his career lies,or it should be anyway.Posted June 30, 2013 4:56 am
You just plan hating now punch drunk boxer ….Posted June 30, 2013 4:27 am
I am now officially on the 3G freight train please forgive me for my past posts and my ignorance !!!Posted June 30, 2013 4:24 am
Golovkin is a hype job much like the second coming of Edison Miranda and Kelly Pavlik fighters many were touting as the second coming of Marvin Hagler when I heard that I was the first to shout boxing blasphemy it wasn’t long before they were exposed as limited one dimensional fighters. A prime Hagler would have destroyed them both within five rds the same applies to Golovkin, chewed them up and spit them out. Mark my words when he faces a fighter who can punch and take his punch he is going to suffer his first loss. I actually believe a prime Kelly Pavlik would beat Golovkin, why? because Pavlik can take a shot, applies relentless pressure, and can punch, those are the types of fighters that are going to give your boy fits and like I said these are the types of fighters that are going to give him his first loss mark my words.Posted June 30, 2013 4:20 am
Bring him over here to England and pop him in a ring with with Froch! then we will see a real war!!!Posted June 30, 2013 4:05 am
Come on boxing managers wake up Buddy Mcgirt is the WORST trainer in all of boxing and has been for years…The con artist turns good fighters to garbage…Don’t hire this bumPosted June 30, 2013 3:59 am
golovrilla!Posted June 30, 2013 3:47 am
GGG will destroy Maravilla and the chocolate kid on the same night.Posted June 30, 2013 3:14 am
Blah Blah Blah. Everyone saw this result coming. That’s what happens when you fight rusty, injured fighters who have made their name by getting KOéd by a real champion who won his belt. GGG once again bluffs the public with a great looking opponent against a guy who has never been successful in World title fights. Any chance he might fight the best of the Middles or will he keep running and go back to fighting Welters and Jnr Middles. Wake me when he actually steps up the competition. Chooo Chooo all aboard the hype train. Suckers ride for free.Posted June 30, 2013 2:52 am
Martinez will beat GGG if they fighr!Posted June 30, 2013 2:52 am
he is a small MW but he does have the Xfactor its easier said than done when you got someone who has power like that to say he is open to a right hand or left because his power overwhelms ability’s he reminds me of chavez in the lightweight division blunt power would negate fighters ability’s to landPosted June 30, 2013 2:22 am
I think GGG is good, but it doesn’t hurt when you opponent is scared s**tless of you! He is wide open for a right hand and his defense is not that tight. He can be hit. Don’t expect Martinez to do it because he’s too old. He should clean out the MW division first. Would not be wise to go up to 168 yet because believe me, Froch and Ward are definitely not afraid.Posted June 30, 2013 2:12 am
funny thing if he can keep knocking out contenders all the other fighters wont have a choice but to face him he is a star in the making to me he is already elite because of the power he carries in those punches.Posted June 30, 2013 2:01 am
all I can say is wow this dude can punch and not just any type of power but blunt power like getting hit with a bat truly a force in the middlewieght division an all honesty i dont want him to move up just yet need to face martinez and chavez and quillin and Pirog firstPosted June 30, 2013 1:59 am
I’m a Daniel Geale fan and after watching this fight I’m glad he took the money fight with Mundine instead of facing Golovkin. HBO would be wanting to offer some serious money for either Geale or Martinez to get in the ring with Golovkin. I can see pretty much all of the big names like Chavez, ALvarez, Ward, Froch & Kessler will all avoid him too unless there is serious money to be made. It will be interesting to see who will want to get in the ring with Golovkin after that effortless display, I dare say we might see him fight a couple of fringe middleweight contenders before this year is done. A very impressive performance.Posted June 30, 2013 1:57 am
GGG would seriously hurt Ward. Ward doesn’t want GGGPosted June 30, 2013 1:49 am
@ lenin – we will see. Ill put my money on GGG. Remember ward had shoulder surgery and is coming off a long layoff. He may not be the same fighter. Lets hope the fight happens. I respect your opinion though. However i do disagree.Posted June 30, 2013 1:47 am
Golovkin WINS BY KO just as as once again CORRECTLY predicted! I am the GREATEST fight prophet EVER born!!Posted June 30, 2013 1:43 am
murderman, nobody at 154 or 160. At 168? I am sure Ward would dismantle GGG. Ward proved that he know how to manhandle beasts.Posted June 30, 2013 1:37 am
This fight should never have been made, Macklin is not a world class fighter.Posted June 30, 2013 1:16 am
Kid chocolate or chavez jr should be next for ggg forget martinez he’s done martinez should go back down to 154 wher he belongs and fight canelo then retire. Canelo vs ggg would be a huge fight .ggg by tko in 7Posted June 30, 2013 1:12 am
Triple G vs Martinez should be on Tap and if Canelo had balls he should be fighting Triple G.Posted June 30, 2013 1:07 am
GGG a beast. No one at 154-168 want it w him! Cant see anyone beating dude. Prop to macklin for having the balls to fight him! But that was a nasty body shot!Posted June 30, 2013 12:59 am
There is not a man on this planet that defeats Golovkin at 160. Period! Noone!Posted June 30, 2013 12:55 am