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fxxk vitali…

Posted May 10, 2013 9:23 pm 


yeah i went back and watched it was the end of round 6 lennox got dog walked. outside of a couple uppercuts the offensive action was all from vitaly klitschKO. it was the vitaly show. lennox just could not concussively effect vitaly klitschKO and that must have been very intimidating because lennox was clearly hurt. it was a great fight and vitaly DOMINATED lennox in the boxgame. lennox came in having dominated his opponents in the boxgame then got dominated. the tape tells the truth and nothing but the truth

Posted March 27, 2013 1:52 pm 


sredmond you should use my “stomp a mudhole” statement again. i see you around east side using my phrases. i didnt know you were my nuthugger. but im trying to teach you about different fight terminology. like dogwalking. thats a really special term relating to ring generalship didnt vitaly dog walk lennox in round 6? BOO YAH

Posted March 27, 2013 1:37 pm 


its nice to see on page one article on east side today that the wbc is inacting instant replay. this has been soarly needed and im glad the wbc is leading the way. you have rabid nuthuggers who apparently dont know about lennox’s career long holding and hitting move. just goes to show they dont know how to watch tape and they dont boxing. they get on east side and talk out of their A55. easily dismantled as shown below. lol

Posted March 27, 2013 1:35 pm 


Thankfully Bears YOUR opinion counts for LESS than NOTHING and thus ends the story with MY FACTS stomping the LIFE out of YOUR opinions…!

Posted March 27, 2013 10:05 am 


HaHaHaHa!!! Vitali beat Lewis “in your eyes” and the ACTUAL worth of that statement is NEGATIVE 5000 ……. I have no issue with your fantasies Bears someone has to read Science Fiction but I am a FAN of reality and thus comfortable when I read details of the bout that have Lewis as the OBVIOUS winner and Vitali NEVER, EVER becoming Undisputed HW Champion, defeating a HOFer of Lewis caliber and always being second best on the BEST day of his career!

Posted March 27, 2013 9:50 am 


I want refs to do teir job. Moreover, I at boxing to be properly officiated. A ringside ref is definetly needed watching replays of all angles ensuring proper calls are being made. Boxing needs some integrity. The corruption is sad. Lennox lewis beat vitaly klitschko if robert helenius beat derek chisora. Imo

Posted March 26, 2013 12:41 pm 


Vitaly did win in my eyes every bit as much as chisora beat helenius if u can’t glean that from my posts below. Even if those cuts were not the result of an holding and hitting illegal rake/lacing so many things had to happen just to get lennox theofficial win on a cut. For instance that fight could’ve been stopped in the 3rd round when george foreman see’s the cut and says “no way”. The cuts being made worse after the illegal blow is just obvious. Vitaly would literally have to not be hit again for that not to happen. Impossble for any fighter. Lennox couldn’t hardly land a punch until he illegally wounded vitaly klitschKO andeven then the goat vitaly klitschKO continued his clean sheet outlanding lennox every round. Continued to dominate range and ring generalship and compubox, was imposing his will and ring generalship all the way to the end even dog walking lennox (awesome). Nothing showed lennox to be the better boxer tha night. Not the ref lou moret improperly calling the fight. Not the dr who stopped it. We have the surgeon who xplained how the cuts happened. Then you have lennox who promises rematches and a bout with wlad. Lennox desperately tries to avoid the vitaly rematch making vitaly get cleared by an independent dr. Making vitaly fight other fights. Lennox then tries to secure other fights besides vitaly and the actual wbc has to intervene as they feel lennox has gone to far and is dodging. They make the vitaly vs lennox bout MANDATORY and tell lennox u will fight noone else until you fight vitaly or lennox gets stripped of the championship belt. Then lennox retires. To a soundtrack of boo’s. In a fight he was loosing and desperately had to go back to his age old cheating tactic of holding and hitting we all know so well from lennox and have all kinds of tape on. So maybe you think we start and stop and who got the official win but we don’t. And you and oj simpsons legal team can’t explain away this mountain of evidence. Lol

Posted March 26, 2013 12:38 pm 


See Bears, you want officials, announcers, the WBC and everyone ELSE to do what was Klitschkos job which was to WIN… Reliance on officials, whining and all that is symptomatic of the loser mentality which fosters excuses and seeks to mitigate personal responsibility for outcomes… Vitali had Lewis right there and if he was as hurt as YOU dream he was then why did the TKO king fail to even get a flash KD? or stop his foe? I’ll tell you its because when the Klits (BOTH of them) are faced with adversity they FOLD…. Against Byrd, Against Lewis, Against Purrity, Against Sanders, Against Brewster when the sailing is NOT smooth they lack that special something…. They are really really good front runners against relative lackeys but too much of a test and the chinks in the armor appear…. Lennox was going NOWHERE and he retired one of UNDER a handful of men as HW Champion, Undisputed at that a serious honor that the elder Klit will never know… Instead his fans fear David Haye might cap him… Dreadful!

Posted March 25, 2013 3:59 pm 


Bears, what does Foreman have to do with Vitali losing the fight? Foreman also capitualted and acknowledged that Lewis was NOT worried about Klits ability to hurt him as the fight wore on… ie “Lewis does NOT respect the power” and all Vitalis efforts were to NO avail because he LOST the fight, NEVER became Undisputed and NEVER really got any respect in the US because once his 15 mins of fame were up courtesy of Lewis blows it was back to Siberia for him… Sorry guy thats just how it goes!

Posted March 25, 2013 3:50 pm 


Yeah Bears we all know that Vitali is the TKO king against the level of opposition that he faces that said he is NEVER going to be on a highlight reel and he is not discussed as an exciting KO puncher…Even a small man he battered like Adamek ended the night on his feet… Lewis would have blasted Tomas into the 6th row… Wlad has more highlight reel KO’s than Vitali as does Lewis and Mike Tyson just forget it….The Dr was there to sew Vitali up not determine the cause of his wounds which we ALL saw arose from clean shots to the face (Camera don’t lie) face it Klits was unable to adequately defend against a monster puncher like Lewis, he stayed on his feet but payed a TERRIBLE price and suffered the WORST beating of his life…. Unless you can point out another night where he was damaged in that manner…

Posted March 25, 2013 3:22 pm 


*foreman got irate about it at ringside

Posted March 25, 2013 3:14 pm 


guys above my pay grade and who get paid to give their views on boxing have similar views as me. so if were all crazy. so be it. but something tells me we are not. you know what mean there s “loan wolf mcquade” redmond? LOL i gotta go buddy nice talking with ya

Posted March 25, 2013 3:00 pm 


HaHaHa the ONLY thing that Vitali rendered “damaged was Lewis hands by taking those uppercuts”…. It was NOT Lewis that went to the hospital with 60 stitches and its ALWAYS Vitali crying about injuries on off nights… Vitali is not some sort of wrecking ball puncher or he would have MORE KO’s and fewer 10 round TKO’s over smaller fighters…. Sam Peter who was a terribly undiscplined athlete is really the ONLY boxer Klits might have helped fall farther down the rabbitt hole…Unless you are going to sell the washed up version of Briggs Vitali beat up? Lewis had HARDER fights than Vitali Rahman knocked him out and Mercer gave him a HARD 10….. Vitali was 6 rounds and Lewis was walking him down and outslugging him as the night concluded as evidenced by the FINE work done in rounds 5 and 6.

Posted March 25, 2013 2:59 pm 


Bears, you CANNOT say something is “these are the facts as I see them” because that says you are reliant on only YOUR interpretation… You would be better served by stating the OBVIOUS which is these are your opinions (Warped and Delusional) but your’s nonetheless….. Facts are immutable ie the name of the planet, who the US President is and the winner between Lennox Lewis and Vitali Klits…. Arguing the official outcomes only leaves you branded as a CRAZY, a title I am sure you are comfortable with….

Posted March 25, 2013 2:54 pm 


i think lennox got “TUNED UP” before he retired thats for sure. then he went on to say vitaly was his toughest fight. vitaly is the hardest puncher he faced etc etc. im not gonna repeat my post below but you have my take on vitaly vs lennox below and a standing champ getting retired. you have to remember vitaly renders guys damaged goods. and thats what happened to lennox. thats why he said vitaly was the toughest, hit the hardest etc etc. thats why lennox tried to fight anyone but vitaly. i mean you dont have to be sherlock holmes to put this together son.

Posted March 25, 2013 2:43 pm 


lennox basically got knocked down against briggs as the sky announcer pointed out and like i pointed out. which reminds me. vitaly is the only heavyweight champ who doesnt know what its like to get a standing 8, get knocked down, or knocked out. vitaly THE GOAT klitschKO. a very distinguished heavyweight pusgilist to say the least. lennox was awesome though. had a lot of great ko wins. im a fan of lennox. not a fan of his cheating. lennox is one of the best he will have some highlights. i dont know to me the jab knockout is freakin awesome. i mean who does that? vitaly klitschKO thats who

Posted March 25, 2013 2:39 pm 


Vitali did NOT retire Lewis if he did why was he in tears and saying he was heartbroken at the end of the bout?? Ohhhhhhhhhh he lost :( At the end of the day Lennox created all the options he needed with that crusher right hand of his that turned Vitali’s face into a jigsaw puzzle….These fantasies of moral victory are empty compensation… Vitalis goal was to defeat Lewis and take his belts he FAILED…He was ONLY successful if you say “he wanted to win 4 rounds, lose ALOT of blood and get stitched up” even then those are proprietary standards that don’t resonate in the world of Wins and Losses… Klits was defeated and woe be unto him! His career has NEVER really recovered :( Always living in the shadow of a loss no matter who he beats..

Posted March 25, 2013 2:38 pm 


sredmond face it. these are my views and opinions. im just sharing them with you. i dont care what you think of the klitschKOs obviously im not gonna be swayed. im just a fan of heavyweight boxing calling it like i see it. its not open for debate. its the facts as i see them

Posted March 25, 2013 2:35 pm 


Bears, face it there is VERY little you can do to pump that Hide win up much… He hit him and he went down… So what??? Lewis laying Golota and Grant out two big guys in no time flat was WAYYYYYYYYYY more impressive…. Even the destruction of Shannon Briggs was far more interesting than Vitali punching Herbie Hide in the neck….

Posted March 25, 2013 2:32 pm 


The manner in which vitaly won his first championship bout against hide is what makes it notable. the jab and hide out with his arms stretched out and locked. A JAB SON!!!!! PRICELESS!!!!! and vitaly made quick work of it. had it not been a jab that knocked hide out then it wouldnt be as notable to me. i will have to watch bowes ko win. bowes knockout isnt gonna compare to vitalys regardless. as vitaly did it with a jab and dude strait locked up!!!!!

Posted March 25, 2013 2:29 pm 


we already addressed vitaly vs lennox below. vitaly retired a standing champ by way of “official loss” in a fight that the crowd thought vitaly won, the judges had vitaly winning, those at ringside had vitaly as the better guy in the contest and even lennox must have thought so too as lennox was trying to fight anyone not named klitschKO and then when the wbc intervened and forced lennox to rematch VITALY THE GOAT KLITSCHKO it was AT THAT MOMENT that THE GOAT retired A STANDING CHAMP!! quite the story. you have to remember lennox was obviously concussed against vitaly as he was hurt holding with double underhooks and reeling across the ring with his mouth piece dangling out. vitaly smoked him in compubox, in concussive effect, in ring generalship i mean what phase of the game did vitaly not own? the holding and hitting? yeah i will give you that. lennox came into the ring averageing 31 jabs a round against his opponents, his jab was NULLIFIED. lennox was credited with just 51 for the whole fight. clearly, vitaly imposed his will on lennox. when lennox is so intimidated to retire after trying to fight anyone not named klitschko, after saying he would rematch. and the chorus of boo’s, to vitaly being credited with retireing a standing champ. yeah, you bet your A55 lennox “KNEW WHEN TO HANG THEM UP” BHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!

Posted March 25, 2013 2:22 pm 


So Bears lets get this straight you say that “Hide Sucked” but its some sort of BIG deal that Vitali knocked him out??? AGAIN you are seeming confused, especially when you look at the fact that Bowe stopped a fighter like Holyfield who has been in with the BEST during his prime…. If I am correct Hide was Champion of that WEAK WBO belt at the time and was not beating World Class comp for the most part… Bowe hunted him down and brutalized him LONG before Vitali did ……

Posted March 25, 2013 2:21 pm 


The significance of vitaly vs hide was it was vitalys first championship bout and he knocked the guys stiff with a JAB SON!!!!!!!! hide did suck but a JAB SON!!!!! freakin awesome. oh, and saying bowe is great cause he defeated holy than so is larry donald, byrd, and ruiz. GTFO with your garbage as if holy’s scalp is the end all be all. must i say anything else? i dont think so. LOL!!!!! you can get a glimpse of how great bowe was watching him box golata. bowe literally fought noone but holy and struggled with golata. bowe couldnt hold on to any titles and is even famous for throwing a title in the garbage. this is contender material. he is not even close to the klitschKOs and lennox. NEXT!

Posted March 25, 2013 2:11 pm 


Bears, you CANNOT produce an “Ah Ha” moment because your Vitali/Lennox story always ends with Lewis hand raised and the annoucer saying “And STILL Undisputed HW Champion of the World” Vitali NEVER heard those words attached to his name and he NEVER will…. Vitali is looking like he is questioning his ability to defeat a small former Cruiser like David Haye meanwhile Lews took out one of the BIGGEST HW Champions in boxing history during his LAST fight….. Lewis retired on top, he had taken them all, Tyson, Tua, Klits, Holyfield, Morrison and the rest Klitschko will NEVER have that comprehensive resume, he NEVER really beat the best of Wlads ERA absent Peter (Woeful quality when stacked against HOFers and ATG’s) Lennox took Vitalis scalp in his prime and he STILL has it rotting in his home after 10 years while Klits tries to cobble together a legacy against refuse like Charr…. Shameful!!

Posted March 25, 2013 2:05 pm 


Sorry Bears, we judge fighters by who they beat and the reality is that Bowe took Holyfield 0 and he has TWO wins over an ATG fighter… Vitali has absolutely NO wins of equivalent quality… AGAIN I spot a contradiction over oversight on your part (likely both) you applaud Vitali for beating Herbie Hide yet you say Bowe beat no one else of quality? I agree that Hide is NO big deal but the reality is that Bowe smashed Hide YEARS before Vitali did… AGAIN make up your mind???? Bowe was a 2X HW Champion so its NOT some sort of accident that he got titles… You think that Vitali beating Sam Peter even begins to compare with Bowe being the ONLY man to stop Holyfield in his prime and take 2 of 3 in an epic trilogy?? Learn your boxing “Jr” its sad to paddle you in this manner…

Posted March 25, 2013 1:49 pm 


Lets look at what really are contender level fighters bowe and holy and even 90s tyson. the only relevant fighter or namer bowe ever fought was holy. to laud bowe because he got 3 titles from holy to me is unwarranted when you look at the era as a whole at the 90s as a whole. there were a ton of fighters and the only guy bowe faced was holy. bowe’s resume and legacy is quite pathetic. he literally did not fight anyone but holy. he deffended against dokes and fergusson and had lost the titles within a year back to holy (who bowe is clearly better in a fight one judge had it a draw) in a highly disputed decision. beyond that bowe fought hide who vitaly knocked out with a jab. (one of the coolest things in heavyweight championship history lets call it an accolade) bowes resume is one of the weakest of all time for heavyweight champs. i think you could almost say weaker then mike tysons because all bowe ever fought was holy. so you can try to talk bowe up to people who dont know boxing. but not to me. its one thing to say undisputed champ but its another to know why and how much merit is in saying that. now to holy

Posted March 25, 2013 1:39 pm 


in fact its more telling that vitaly imposed his will on lennox. outlanding him every round, teeing off on him, having him hold with double underhooks as everyone thought lennox was gonna get knocked out then vitaly let him survive. we didnt just see lennox cleansheeted in the compubox we saw him concussively hurt bad and sent reeling back. in however many rounds holy could never do this. vitaly retired a standing champ by way of an official loss. it was awesome. lennox was willing to fight on just not against vitaly klitschKO. people wanna praise him for “knowing when to hang them up” and lennox knew it was time to hang them up when he couldnt fight anyone but vitaly or be stripped. LOL!!!!! so that must tell you what lennox thought of his efforts in the ring against vitaly and how likely he thought it was that he might come away with a win again. he obviously didnt like his chances. but like i said if it wasnt vitaly lennox had to fight he wouldve fought on. in fact he was trying to until the wbc INTERVENED!!! BOO YAH!!!

Posted March 25, 2013 1:30 pm 


In fact I think its MORE telling that the Klits could not really make waves beyond the WBO belt until the guys from the 90’s Lewis, Bowe, Holy and Tyson were gone… All these guys were Undisputed Champions something Vitali NEVER even came close to accomplishing… To Wlad’s credit he has pretty much cleaned up all the belts absent the one he lets his brother hang on to but these facts preclude Vitali from EVER being considered even CLOSE to a GOAT level HW…. Truth is he spent a NANO second as the Top HW and that was 10 or 11 years ago…The number 2 man in a man cannot be the lead singer the roles are different…. Wlad did MOST of the work, even Vitalis BEST win was a Wlad retread and not anyone history is going to think much of Sam Peter… Lewis resume simply should not even be put next to Vitalis its n comparison especially when you look at the fact Vitali’s name is in Lennox WIN column!!

Posted March 25, 2013 11:30 am 


Bears, Holyfield was durable enough as a smaller fighter to absorb Lewis blows and stay in the fight… Its not even fair to judge them against eachother in all honesty because Vitali got TKOed during the first 6 rounds of the fight which really denies us a true apples to apples comparison… What we can SAY without speculation is that Holy was able to see the bell 2x when Vitali could not see it ONCE as the bigger boxer….Evander improved on his first performance attesting to his grit, while I credit Vitali for fighting with that eye, he lacked the durability to go on and he was FADING… The 5th and 6th rounds were BAD for him he took the WORST shots of the fight, he was bleeding from 5 wounds and he was hanging on after that jackhammer uppercut he lost the 6th on all 3 cards and the Dr had seen enough… Vitali was given the ONLY thing a challenger deserves which is a chance and he FAILED to make the most of it, truth be told Lennox FLUNKED him….

Posted March 25, 2013 9:23 am 


Bears, the ONLY people who care about a cheering crowd in the absence of a WIN are LOSERS “the crowd cheered his effort” thats what happens during Good fights… The IMPORTANT thing is who wins and loses and Lennox Lewis walked out of the ring STILL Champion and he retired that way….Lewis was NOT mandated to reproduce those lacerations during another fight he did it when the CHIPS were down…Thats the difference between winners and losers..Winners don’t think about a rematch, or another day they leave it all in ring…. Tim Bradley understood that when he was getting rattled and taking career worst punishment, Marquez understood that when Manny was looking sharper than he had in years and was taking him and starting to break his face up… Vitali did NOT have the necessary tools to get the job done and implausible adjectives like “clean sheeting” “dog walking” etc cannot compensate for one simple word WINNING……

Posted March 25, 2013 9:16 am 


Sure vitaly didn’t get the official win bu he had the crowd cheering him thinking he did win and analysts like merchant raphael thinking he did win. It was just too corrupt. The fight probably lasted a few rounds longer so they could hand it to te outboxed lennox. I mean if lennox was such a badass and a cut specialist he would’ve fought vitaly again. He was willing to fight anyone not named klitschko after the bout. Then when forced to rematch he retired. Who retired a champ through an official loss. Who retired a standing champ by way of an official loss? That’s right the GOAT did. Let’s chalk it up to yet ANOTHER accolade. What do u say my choclateer little buddy slave redmond? I’m sorry I’ve been out partyin all night and haven’t been available.

Posted March 25, 2013 5:57 am 


In the annals of boxing history holy doesn’t begin to compare to the goat vitaly klitschko. Do I need to remind u of the accolades? Vitaly doesn’t get stopped by guys who can’t handle golata or fatty fat fat james toney or john ruiz or larry donald. See the dif kid. Let’s talk accolades now. We mine as well cause u can’t talk boxing. Lol

Posted March 25, 2013 5:12 am 


In 6 rounds vitaly did better than holy eeking out a decision win where judges had it a draw. And old featherfists holy wa clearly dominated by both lewis and bowe. That’s how history has it. Holy getting titles off guys that wouldt be able to hold onto the titles in a hundred years and same goes for holy. Could never hold any titles for very long cause he sucked. He was a contender essentially. Holyfield sucked then and it just got exponentially worse for holy as time went on. Then it got desperate or one evander holyfield who now with 1000 kids and 1000 mothers is selling anything and everything he has to survive. Thank you for your take. But holy sucks son. Lol. I’m sorry u had posters of him. Lol

Posted March 25, 2013 5:09 am 


Ur not gonna provide ANYONE wth a breakdown as your not a heavyweight boxing fan your a hate white people fan. Thanks for helping me make my point. And hting white guys on east side has been your life since july 2011. Guess what? You suck at life. I knew the whole time u couldn’t hang when it comes to boxing. Epic fail dude. Lol

Posted March 25, 2013 5:02 am 


Holyfield accomplished way more than Vitali, he was Undisputed Champion and the only 4 time Champ in HW history.. He fought and beat better fighters than Vitali EVER did, he defeated 2 formerly Undisputed HW Champs Bowe and Tyson.. He went 24 rounds with Lewis when Vitali could ONLY manage 6, which does NOT rate!

Posted March 24, 2013 11:41 pm 


Bears, why would I provide a nutcase like you with a breakdown?? You mistake the dynamic I control your emotions NOT vice versa.. Now that we cleared that up I am HAPPY to see you still trying to elevate Vitali off losing to Lewis inside the distance, it really makes my point about how the guys that made it into the elder Klits win column fail to impress even a fanboy like you…Thanks for that look into your addled brain!! One of the only guys I saw who was really in position to build his name off losses was Marquez who finished EVERY fight with Pacquiao, not fighting a first bout where he had a few good rounds the got wrecked and pulled out!

Posted March 24, 2013 4:47 pm 


So you don’t have an answer. The only thing u can say is its not vitaly. Lol. You answered none of the questions you just kept hating on the whites. David haye was dominatd by wlad. Lennox lewis was cleansheeted by vitaly (outlanded every round for the first time in his championship bouts) even though vitaly had 1 eye 66% of the time and the crowd cheered vitaly and the analysts spoke for vitaly too. Vitaly had lennox holding on with double underhooks. Mouthpiece hanggin out and reeling across the ring and getting dogwalked as vitaly imposed his ring genralship. So now u think ur tired argument about hof has any weight? Like holmes beating a washed up past it cassius clay means anything? It means nothing. Those are the measures of people who don’t know boxing. When u have two fighters like wlad and vitaly who can dominate the best, how is any heavyweight gonna become hof? Lol. Not gonna happen in this environment. They could’ve wasted a past it mike tyson like lennox lewis. They could’ve murdered grandpa holyfield. That somehow beating past its because they were once good idea is good for the resume is plum stupid. And generally not the formula used that’s why even in the 90s when people made ther top heavyweights lists it had joe louis at he top. Lol. Then mayweather beating hof fighters. What weight were these guys hof. Floyd couldn’t even make weight for marquez. To me many of them guys are good not great. I don’t consider cotto some all time great. You can’t answer any heavyweight questions. You just hate on the white greatness. Your a slave to the klitschKOs so u better keep that klitschko sack in your mouth slave

Posted March 24, 2013 1:16 pm 


Bears, I barely notice the Klits “are White” absent you and these other fools pointing it out constantly like some rabid Neo-Nazi’s, what I do notice is how damn weak Vitali’s resume is and how EASY it is to get you twisted up in knots trying to sell your indefensible stances and flip flopping..

Posted March 24, 2013 8:04 am 


Vitali Klits the best ever? It’s not even a credible debate if we were even close to witnessing the Greatest HW career ever it would be heavily discussed.. Vitalis gonna retire soon and it’s NOT gonna be a big deal because his brother owns all the real estate.. The older Klit never Unified? Never beat a HOFer and has a very weak resume, if you’re not top man in your own era you’ll never be tops in history it’s just not possible… You can write “GOAT” 1000 times in rapid succession and every credible measure and standard leaves Vitali as LACKING… “Never down, Never behind” ain’t flying Floyd Mayweather dominated much better fighters than Klits and has NEVER lost or QUIT god forbid and he is not the best WW ever… Face it Klits is a solid HOF fighter but he’s never passed a big enough test or defeated enough high quality fighters to be taken seriously, Lewis resume makes Vitali look like an amateur!

Posted March 24, 2013 6:22 am 


Slave redmond- you want to masquerade as a heavyweight fan? Bust out your top heavyweights list number one most likely to beat the rest. You know like vitaly klitschKO number one…..the GOAT……..but really….why have the klitschkos consumed you? Why are they your life?……….say it………lol

Posted March 23, 2013 10:20 pm 


Hey man. Your barking up the wrong tree. Why don’t u take ur case to dan raphael? Blow up the espn threads and try to ask dan raphael? Or talk to people that get paid to their views on boxing and sports. Take ur case to the jim romes, the george foremans, the dan rapahels, the frddy roaches. Dude I’ve heard u repeat ur tired view since july 2011. I probably know u btter then u know yourself. Plus your acting like a slave man. A retarded one. Do you know how many hundreds of retorts we have had to eachother? Your shallow and narrow agenda has been transparent since day one so why do u dedicate your life to the klitschkos is my question? Are they symbols of the greatness you hate? White greatness? Why does this bother you so bad that it has become your life my son?

Posted March 23, 2013 10:14 pm 


Bears, I really enjoy driving you mad with rage, I concede its a bit cruel but OH well, a lower life form like yourself needs direction! And I would be remiss if I did not provide it… You WILL hear the truth absent fantasy stay tuned kiddo!

Posted March 23, 2013 9:50 pm 


Bears Bears Bears, you and VERY biased Dane are running out of road! The hard truths you’re being confronted with cannot be mitigated by whining.. Now I don’t “REALLY” expect intelligent rebuke but Im trying to get you two goons to stretch!! Alas we know the Klits are Kings of the era but an accurate portrayal of their reality will continue to rain on your heads despite the obvious angst it causes you two lames :)

Posted March 23, 2013 9:45 pm 


slave remdond what up dude?

Posted March 23, 2013 9:43 pm 


Bears Bears Bears, you and VERY Biased Dane are am

Posted March 23, 2013 9:38 pm 

Unbiased Dane

Too bad this site doesnt have a filter for the likes of shredmon. This should be a site for boxing fans not haters.

Posted March 23, 2013 9:14 pm 

K-2- Fan

No mystery as to who the TWO BEST fighters are ! As for the third , you
can take your pick . There is a whole Grand Canyon between the Klitchkos
and a # 3 ! It appears that there can be quite a few contenders for that spot .
Hayes , while certainly in the running ( pardon the pun ) has really not beaten any young , live , top 20 contender , to be automatically considered a # 3 .
While the Klitchkos are certainly in a class by themselves , this can not be
considered so with the rest of the field , where there is NO such other DOMINANT fighter . They ( the contenders ) , have just to duke it out among
themselves to establish a pecking order that’s based on results , rather than
on conjecture .

Posted March 23, 2013 6:28 pm 

stupid loser

Exiled Yank – I agree I badly wanted to see a VK/LL rematch. But I respect Lewis for knowing when it was his time, and unlike others, made real on his decision.
Great fighter of this recent era. Klits are great fighters of this era as well, I think more so big brother, but I also think with the sad state of the HW division over all, there just has not been more to challenge how true that is.

Now the only thing left to define who is better is for them to fight each other … lol.

Posted March 23, 2013 5:43 pm 

Exiled Yank

The VK LL fight was truly one the best of all time. Definitely the greatest HW fight in recent years. It stinks that it ended like it did (the ref had to call it) and even worse that LL refused a rematch. He may have won, and people can say he had VK where he wanted him, but in the end, LL left the game instead of proving he was better. I don’t blame a fighter for knowing when it’s time to hang them up, and he had every right to. But the truth is, VK showed him that the game was up and he got out while he still could. LL is a top ten all time HW champ, some can argue top 5, but he got out while the gettin’ was good.

Posted March 23, 2013 5:21 pm 

stupid loser

Vitali did disgrace himself when he quit on the stool w/Byrd sitting on the other side of the ring and only 9 min to go. To his credit he did redeem himself in the Lewis fight and he desire to redeem himself may have helped him push on after the cut. Vitali started out winning the fight but Lewis was coming on. Who know how it would have played out…but that is the woulda/coulda routine. I will go on the limb and say it was maybe the best HW match-up’s in the last 10 yrs.

Wlad did not necessary disgrace himself, it is more like he was exposed, 1st by Puritty then Sandars, and then Brewster. At that point I thought his career was over as any real contender… He had absolutely no confidence left and even big bro told him to quit. Then came Manny Steward, who worked some SERIOUS MAGIC, starting with the DaVarryl W fight, where DaV W had Wlad on shaky legs to start the fight, again Manny. Manny also got Vlad through the Peter fight w/a Bradly like win, but a win. No way I see Wlad pulling that out without Steward, IMO. Also remember it was Manny that though Wlad how to stay with his hammer jab so he did not blow his wad early on and then how to hold so he did not crumbled immediately when he was in trouble.
So SREDMOND, maybe there is hope for Haye. Perhaps he could redeem himself, from what I see as a disgraceful fight agaist Wlad. Knowing Wlad could be broke in the past if tested, but Haye ran instead, then made it even worse CRYING foul. It was pitiful to say the least, compounded by all the crap he talked to get the fight. I actually bought into the hype, somewhat, thinking he would come to fight. Nope, he ran. If there is a Haye – Vitali fight, hopefully he brings something besides just a big mouth.

Posted March 23, 2013 4:32 pm 

Exiled Yank

Sheriff Ray Gordon Reid has returned. Giddy up!

Posted March 23, 2013 3:49 pm 


Vitali was not even close to “Green” against Lewis he was a pro for 8 years and had around 32 fights?? How many years to be ready?? 10, 15 or when Lewis was 60?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA! The excuses fall from the silly Bears keyboard like leaves in Autumn it does not matter because 10 years later Vitali still needs a name on his resume besides Sam Peter… Or retire with the stats and a paucity of substance…

Posted March 23, 2013 2:23 pm 

raygordon reid

haye no way

Posted March 23, 2013 2:19 pm 


Lewis pretty much had a habit of punching Vitali the face and the right hands that broke Klits open were easily visible to the naked eye… Excellent demolition job by a sloppy but still heavy handed fighter… As for Vitali quitting it’s a moment of weakness FOREVER attached to his name, boxings not a normal sport where a sub can come in and play your position pain and agony are just another day at the office, against Byrd , Vitalu could have taken a lesson in courage because he was rightly rebuked for showing no stones…

Posted March 23, 2013 1:21 pm 

Exiled Yank

Here’s another angle of the fight: Haye draws money. I don’t know why, but British fans are rabid when it comes to their athletes and they will pay to see the fight based on whatever hype crap he pulls during the promotion.

Posted March 23, 2013 1:03 pm 

Exiled Yank

SRED – Bradley may have fought with a concussion, but concussed people don’t usually make good choices. VK did quit and people hold that against him. Hopkins injured his shoulder against Echols and fought on. It depends on the fighter.

Posted March 23, 2013 1:01 pm 


Lennox lewis if he had a motif it was holding and hitting. The tua camp pretty much made the lewis bout all about holding andhitting and how lennox got away with it. Lennox very first title fight ref cortez had to jump his A55 for holding and hitting in the first couple rounds. In lennox last fight that’s how he cut vitaly. Its a dirty age old trick. The dr that stitched vitaly up describes exactly what happened. It was wrist raking/lacing. It has nothing to do with boxing skill or mastery. Yet it really doesn’t matter. The bout b/w the goat vitaly klitschko and lennox was awesome. Vitaly was very green and raw. Vitaly just started dominating lennox right outta the gate. He outlanded lennox every round (that’s a clean sheet baby!) And he fought 66% of the fight with one eye. The hbo commentators said lennox won the fight vitaly the event. Lennox was boo’ed and vitaly cheered. Lennox retired to being boo’ed. That cut was not only bad enough to stop the fight immediately after the thrid and go to the cards. It was caused by a holding andhitting wrist raking lace job. This means lennox xouldve been dq’ed or point deducted (he was already getting smoked in the rounds and being outlanded every round) at the very least it should’ve gone to the cards. Boxing desperately needs a second ref at ringside mic’ed up to the ref in the ring watching all the camera angles on the fights and making the correct calls. All the major sports have incorporated this kind of technology into their officiating to help maintain the veracity and integrity of calls being made. Boxing could benefit from this big time and that’s one bout that would’ve benefited from this. Vitaly did awesome. Nobody glorifies a cuts or a cut win. Often like in mma you will se guys say they regret winning by a cut and will rematch. Many guys don’t even consider it a real fight win. All I know is you never hear people glorifying cuts in fights. In any fights. Because cuts are intangibles. Variables. Its not fight skill that causes a cut there’s many different factors that go into it. Notice lennox never cut anyone else before and there were opponents he connected with literally 100s more times then he did vitaly. Creating a cut is no art, no skill, there is noone who specializes in it and there is no clean punch that specializes in creating a cut. Cuts are usually done by lces or headbutts in boxing and lastly by punch accumulation. Lennox had not hardly landed anything on vitaly win at the opening of round 3 he did the hold and hit wrist rake job. He held with his left arm and hit with his right. This was a motif in lennox career if u watch. He even ko’ed a guy with it. Check his very first title fight. I might get the link and post it shortly to show u all

Posted March 23, 2013 12:33 pm 


Very Biase Dane, now you want a contract clause controlling the action of the bout?? That’s called wrestling or a fixed fight (WOW!!!!!!) anything to make the Klits night easier should Haye be forced to wear cement boots and 20 pound gloves also?? Let’s get real Wlad was nervous also about getting tagged with a big shot, that’s why Hayes 14.25 punches per round get Big Wlad jabbing and grabbing for most of 12 rounds… Klits shares some of the blame for that stinker a prime Mike Tyson or Holyfield would have been chasing Haye like maniacs…

Posted March 23, 2013 11:57 am 


Tim Bradley thought he was concussed on the second round against Provodnikov, but he kept fighting, refusing to give up his title or yield… Vitali had 3 rounds to go against a guy he DWARFED , Klits did not know he had a rotator cuff injury and if he did he should have gutted it out!! He only had 9 mins and he lost his nerve! He learned his lesson when Lewis turned his eye into pulled pork and he kept fighting… David Haye fought scared against Wlad, then he blasted Chisora it’s time to stop hiding Vitali behind Wlads shadow and let him put the kibosh on Haye if he (Vitali) keeps boxing… If not then retire

Posted March 23, 2013 11:50 am 

Exiled Yank

Here’s the thing about Haye, the guy could really make some noise if he’d shut his mouth and fight. He fights once a year and walks around like he’s conquered to whole division. He has the talent, I just think he lacks the scruples. And if he folded under WK’s pressure, he’s going to hide under the canvas when VK comes after him. The guy has the talent and skill, but lacks it in other areas.

Posted March 23, 2013 11:36 am 

Unbiased Dane

Bill Hardy: Povetkin would be too easy, and i dont think he dares to fight him.

Posted March 23, 2013 9:40 am 

Unbiased Dane

Neil(pomy) : one third of the comments are from shredmon runnning his campaign against the klitschko´s. Is Haye third best ? well you cant be third best in the world without beating eny fighter ranked in top 20, the same way Price couldnt be the future of hw boxing by beating up some way to old b or c level fighters. What we know by now is that Haye is a wasted talent, with good punching power that can generate some excitement if he dares to fight. If Haye gets his titlefight there should be a clause in his contract, saying that Haye gets payed per punches he throws, and of course a bonus for every rounds he wins. Then we would probably get a good and exciting fight.

Posted March 23, 2013 9:39 am 

Bill Hardy

david haye needs to fight A.Povetkin before he trys to fight a super champion like V.klitschko..

Posted March 23, 2013 9:39 am 


3rd best HW based on what?

Posted March 23, 2013 8:57 am 


Haye should fight Vitali. It would be a good fight despite Vitali being over 40 and Haye being much much smaller. Good fight

Posted March 23, 2013 8:51 am 


Look at how many comments the first article on Hayes return has generated …. my point is proven. Even the people who hate him love talking about him. For me, Haye is still the 3rd best heavyweight out there right now. Id like him to fight Ademek (easy win for Haye) then Povetkin (a tougher fight for him but winnable) and then one of the K-brothers (but I doubt Haye will beat them).

Posted March 23, 2013 3:16 am 


lol oh I have missed this banter …. Im glad Haye is back to polarise everyone. Love or hate him, the division needs him.

Posted March 23, 2013 3:13 am 

Hero TOE Zero

my toe! my toe!

Posted March 23, 2013 2:16 am 

stupid loser

Haye discrased himself against Wlad. All that smack and he got in the ring and ran. Not stick and move, but run like his life depended on it. If Haye gets in the ring with big brother, it will only be to improve on how even better he got at running.

Posted March 23, 2013 2:15 am 

st louie

redmond is one pathetic old man.

Posted March 23, 2013 2:06 am 

fred g sanford

How will redmond fill his pathetic life once the brothers retire? if he wasn’t posting about the klits 200 times a day on here, how would he fill his days? by eating chicken and watermelon, i suppose.

Posted March 23, 2013 12:10 am 

stop the pigeon

Bears and sredmond, dastardly and mutley.

Posted March 22, 2013 10:56 pm 

Old skool

I stopped the other day on my bicycle, there were pigeons trying to pick a slice of bread, in the middle of a road with traffic, cars, you are so going to get squashed doing that, so I picked it up and put it on the pavement, no squashed pigeons, good deed for the day.

Posted March 22, 2013 10:17 pm 


Haye the Brit boxer.

Posted March 22, 2013 8:33 pm 


Almost 200 comments on this??? What on earth has Haye done to deserve a title shot??? NOTHING except trash talking, not fighting, and getting knocked out in boring fashion when he does fight a Klitchko.

Posted March 22, 2013 8:20 pm 


Division is poor because the contenders are too chicken s@#t to face each other. Wk is far above everyone with his brother a close second. The contenders below that just want a quick way to a title. They scary.

Posted March 22, 2013 7:52 pm 

K-2- Fan

Ah , the two man ( rather two BOY ) chorus of Nameless – Brainless , and Sredmond – Deadmond ! Still waiting for someone , ANYONE , to beat a
Klitchko ! How long has it been boys ? Quite a spell actually . Now they’re pinning their hopes on The Toe Fairy . Well good luck with that , boys . You
see, Vitaly may or may NOT CHOOSE to take another fight . At this point it really is irrelevant . Vitaly has put boxing now on the back burner . There
are much more important more important issues in his life , than accommodating a big mouth blowhard , who already was trounced soundly by his btother ! If Hayes wanted to fight Vitaly so badly where was he a few years ago , when Vitaly was fully focused on boxing alone . He ran . He made up phony excuses and he ran ! Now Vitaly should just dangle him for a while .
There is no doubt in my mind , that if Hayes had beaten Wlad or at least
made a better showing of it , instead of flopping and running , Vitaly would have fought him already . As it turned out , however , there is no reason to expect , that Hayes can bring ANYTHING to the fight that would bother Vitaly .

Posted March 22, 2013 7:46 pm 


no interest in haye with his dumb t-shirt. Boxing is business and haye should 30% tops for a fight with vitaly. Haye vs price!!

Posted March 22, 2013 7:43 pm 


Haye gets all the posts, watch when he makes his comeback in July, 500+

Posted March 22, 2013 7:09 pm 

The Toe

Go and look at Boxrec and look at Larry Holmes first ten defences or even Tysons . They were no better than the K bros challengers. Lennox Lewis on the other hand has a fine resume and ducked nobody.

Posted March 22, 2013 6:50 pm 


If fighting Haye is the best that shows the poor state the HW division is in.

Posted March 22, 2013 6:31 pm 


HW “the most prestigious division” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You mean the forgotten division excepting the hardcore, and only hardest of the hard?? 140,147,154, 168 are MUCH hotter than HW who has the Klits and then largely no name boxers… Lets NOT be fools guys, a fight between Haye and Vitali would be a nice boost for a division that needs one… It sure as hell is not coming from Wlad vs Pianeta!

Posted March 22, 2013 5:43 pm 


Robot, AGAIN you really validate my point about NERVOUS Klit fans wary of Haye a damn Cruiser getting to their man… I am fine with Vitali retiring but if he is going to fight.. Haye makes the MOST sense by FAR

Posted March 22, 2013 5:40 pm 


Haye is the guy CREATING the 8 figure payday as much as Vitali would… Wlads BIGGEST check ever was against David Haye and the SAME would happen if they fought again, thats why it has been under consideration for YEARS… Who said that Chisora was a BUM? he was a tough fighter but reality is that Haye handled him in superior fashion!

Posted March 22, 2013 5:39 pm 


Here is Sredmond again all over VK thead like a n incessant pubic louse. David Haye is not even a speck in Great Fighter’s rear-view mirror. Oh yeah he would love to take on an ageing Vit who has no time for boxing anymore as he moved on to greater things in life. Well, screw him, he had that chance several times and cowered .

Posted March 22, 2013 5:05 pm 


The truth is that Vitali needs to retire, when the “TKO King” is being deemed unfit to face a relative little man like Haye then he has lost the confidence of his fans… Go be a politician, his induction in the HOF is assured and he will be remembered as the 2nd best fighter of his era of course all of that superseded by the fact that he lost to Lewis… (most memorable moment by far)….. Life goes on!

Posted March 22, 2013 4:51 pm 


Haye sure as hell was NOT looking like a “Con Man” when he flatblasted a teak tough guy that Helenius, Fury and Vitali could not even wobble… 5 rounds in David Haye smashed him a HUGE improvement over Vitalis hardfought, backpedaling UD win over Derrick… Ever since Haye crunched Chisora the Klit faithful have circled the wagons around Vitali discussing him fighting EVERYONE but David Haye and manufacturing excuses by the boatload…. Those of us who understand the HW landscape know that the only fight that will generate some real buzz beyond the borders of Germany is either Wlad vs Vitali or Vitali vs Haye… Povetkin has been exposed and a coward and a guy struggling with Cruisers Haye would slaughter him…. And speaking of “40 year olds” Povetkin should be dissed according to Bears logic because he has been fighting relics like Boswell and Rahman…..

Posted March 22, 2013 4:39 pm 


How is “Haye only fighting 39 year olds” Chisora was YOUNG, Wlad was YOUNG and Wlad has fought 2, 40 years over the past year plus one of whom was a former Cruiser Haye knocked out YEARS ago and who looked like trash at HW…. But then again AGE does not matter, EXCEPT when a silly point has to be made that FAILS…Warrior? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Like Thompson who crumbled after the first couple of blows which was predictable because that is what he did before after 11 rounds.. Haye is DANGEROUS and Bears wants to keep Vitali OUT of danger, he wants 5 division Champ Floyd Mayweather to go face MW’s but he is scared to see Vitali in with a guy who is a really small modern day HW…. Cowardice is a woeful trait indeed!

Posted March 22, 2013 4:30 pm 


**anthony jeff- **david haye is very talented. he just has not done enough good to counter measure all the bad. maybe haye will be a force to be reckoned with we dont know right now and haye giving chisora his 3rd loss in a row is not enough. maybe haye will become exciting. Im a huge fan of teh heavyweight division and i wish all the fighters luck. obviously, im the biggest klitschKO fan. they have been my favorite atheletes for more then a decade now and i have followed the heavyweight division closely for more than 20 years. im also a lennox fan but more of a klitschKO fan. haye has come off as a con. between falling through on all the kltischKO fights and only fighting the 39+ year olds and it taking wlad to come out and make a video officially calling out haye after years that haye was in the division and beotching out of klitschko fights. wlad comes out and calls him out and says he’s beotching out. haye was basically forced into a fight and after all the pressure from video. haye had to be pressured had to be given more money than he deserved and it was terrible negotiations and fianally the fight was made and haye was disgraceful. the whole time with hayes words and his behavior he doesnt even seem like he has the will of a warrior talking about retirement all the time too. haye has just come off like a con man. so this is why haye is the only guy in the heavyweight division “not deserving a title shot” even though he may be better then many of the fighters. we dont know that based on his deplorable actions. this is why haye must be forced to put in the work and prove to the fans he’s here to fight. were not interested in his con and filling his cofffers for a super sweet retirement fund. but i hope haye enriches the heavyweight division that is filled with guys we love to watch and hope to see fight eachother. im looking forward to arreola vs stievern

Posted March 22, 2013 4:21 pm 


Quit begging and fight for a mandatory position

Posted March 22, 2013 3:36 pm 


Biased Dane, can you at least be more imaginative? You have ONLY persuaded me that my teachings have reached your core… I think its funny that I have some of you literally paranoid thinking I a part of “A movement” when I am just a man with STRONG opinions…

Posted March 22, 2013 3:33 pm 

Unbiased Dane

SREDMOND you back power fool, go away with your trash.

Posted March 22, 2013 3:28 pm 


Vitaly is not willing to trade punches, he is not that stupid when he can do that in one way direction using his heights. The problem – he is not that fast and his punches are not strong anymore. I think his last best fight he had was with Adamek. After that he was really bad. If Haye is still in shape he will win. About Brewster fight, it was Brewster good and it was Wlad bad. Brewster was reaching him with his left in each round and “made him out of gass” look like. He was shocked by 4-5th round and Stewart had to remove him from the fight. Wlad had a stroke after those punches. He couldn’t speak for ~ 12 hours. After a deep sleep in the hospital speech came back to him.

Posted March 22, 2013 2:04 pm 


Wlad sure did NOT look out of shape when he was popping Brewster in the face for the first 5 1/2 rounds then suddenly he gets caught and he is no longer in shape? Simple answer he LOST…

Posted March 22, 2013 2:01 pm 


Eric, Wlad was in the PRIME of an athletes life against Brewster especially a HW whereas Lewis was 37 and he was somewhat past it …. Look at the caliber of opposition that Lewis WON over during a tough scrap and look at the caliber of fighter that Wlad got knocked out by??? Vitali was a BIG tough HW, Brewster was plenty smaller than Wlad and eating leather…..One guy WON against the better fighter one guy LOST against the lessor fighter via TKO….

Posted March 22, 2013 1:54 pm 

Exiled Yank

UJelly – Yup, that’s what I see too. The only chance Haye has is letting his hands go and using angles. If he decides to trade with VK, it’s lights out – there is no comparison in chins.

Posted March 22, 2013 1:48 pm 

Exiled Yank

I just want to see an exciting championship HW fight. There hasn’t been a good HW championship fight since LL and VK a decade ago! At least the lower divisions are exciting.

Posted March 22, 2013 1:46 pm 


No he doesnt, Haye this is called karma

Posted March 22, 2013 1:38 pm 


I actually think this is a decent scrap. Vitali is willing to mix it up, so there will be opportunities for Haye to land his shots… but Vitali is made of granite so he’ll be throwing right back.
Even though Vitali has slowed, I can’t see Haye winning. He’d probably land good shots early on, but if he can’t dent Klitschko then I figure Vitali would wear Haye down by the later rounds.

Posted March 22, 2013 1:12 pm 


maybe vitali is past it – in that case what does being WBC champion mean? Fk all really. Loads of people can beat him now

Posted March 22, 2013 12:38 pm 


Wlad WAS NOT anything close to “a rookie” when Brewster took him out in the first bout… He was 45 fights into his career and 7 or so years in the game… Besides what was he gassing from? It was the 6th round and he had not thrown some sort of record number of punches, Tua and Ibeabuchi threw more in 2 rounds than Wlad did in 6… Lamon caught him and took him out, everyone has an excuse when they lose

Posted March 22, 2013 12:37 pm 


Eric, Ross Purrity retired with over 20 losses and he as sporting 13 losses when Wlad got handed him and he handed Wlad his head…. Purrity had ALOT of nights I gues he did not want to be that good…. As for Corrie Sanders he was of no significance beyond beating Wlad, he struggled with World Class fighters and made his bones beating fodder over in South Africa, you sound like you are describing other historically relevant HW’s but NOT Sanders….

Posted March 22, 2013 12:34 pm 


Klit fans dont want this fight for one big reason – vitali will lose. he knows it, they know it ……..everyone knows it

Posted March 22, 2013 12:29 pm 


Eric your description of sanders sounds alot like Tyson Fury right now. Big fast, powerful.

Posted March 22, 2013 12:21 pm 



Posted March 22, 2013 12:19 pm 


God Shredom is making sense. I just want to see Vital and Wlad fight some bad ass heavies in 2013…………..and they do exist. They are out there.

Posted March 22, 2013 12:13 pm 


Klitschkos………awesome but falling from grace. They are now fighting canno fodder and I am sick of it. Mormeck, Wach, Pianetta, Charr………crap. The talented fighters are just no coming though. Pulev right now would take Vitali. Lucus Browne is a year or so probably would as well. Stiverne once he beats Arreola will give Wlad nightmares. Fury after Cunningham as well. These guys are on the rise and are better than the guys the K Bros have fought for some time now.

Posted March 22, 2013 12:09 pm 

Exiled Yank

Haye did lay out Chisora. Haye has potential because he is so athletic, something I hoped would make the Wlad fight exciting, but is was a typical Wlad snoozer. The HW division has nothing going for it, so why not let Haye fight Vitaly. The difference is that Vitaly likes to fight and Wlad likes to box. Plus, Haye has no shot at all of landing a single KO punch on VK, so he will have to actually fight. I say let it happen.

Posted March 22, 2013 11:59 am 


JJ, sorry I don’t buy it if you are going to judge Haye off of his rough night against the BEST HW during the era then we have to ask why the Klits were allowed to remain relevant… Haye might have fought SCARED as hell against Wlad but Vitali QUIT against Chris Byrd who cannot punch his way out of a wet paper bag… As for Wlad, he was TOAST after getting knocked out 2x in a 5 fight span once by a C plus level PART time fighter…. Right now there is a paucity of name opponents in the HW division and thats just a FACT, David Haye is the LAST guy that Klits lifted a belt from and he sure as hell did not knock Haye out… The bar is SOOOOOOO low to fight a Klit these days that Haye is looking like Hercules PLUS he brings a FAT check… Whats the problem?? You want it in writing that he is going to go balls out against Vitali? AGAIN if you guys were really sure of Vitali you would LOVE for him to pound Haye to mush but the chance that this fast heavy handed athlete might tag Klits is too much to bear… I smell FEAR

Posted March 22, 2013 11:56 am 


What the hell did Charr do to deserve a fight with Vitali EXCEPT being born and techincally being a HW fighter? At least Haye blew out the guy that gave Vitali his toughest bout in years and if you guys start your usual “Vitali was hurt routine” that has to be called out for sheer weakeness, results are results…By that rationale a healthy Vitali should have no problem knocking out David Haye???

Posted March 22, 2013 11:51 am 


@ S.Redmond. In response to why VK got a shot against Lewis and Wlad against Byrd a secong time. By the way, Wlad has only to date got Two title opportunites, where is this “multiple opportunities” coming from?? The first time against Byrd he was on a TEN fight WIN streak, including a demolition job of a ranked Barrett (just one loss at the time) and former contender Schulz. THe second time he beat the no.1 bad man on the planet- undefeated Sam Peter! You Idiot. As for Vitali, he was on a FIVE fight winning streak before Lewis, which included KO wins over Donald and Bean ( former world title challengers and first time either were stopped) as well as a KO over Wlad conqueror Purrity. Now we have Haye, who is on a measly ONE fight win streak over unranked Vitali rethread Chisora. I presume you call Britain your Home S.Redmond, am I correct?

Posted March 22, 2013 11:49 am 


Vitaliy is not going to fight Haye. He has very low chance against Haye. Neither Wlad or Haye did show anything in their fight.

Posted March 22, 2013 11:28 am 


Unbiased Dane, first of all Haye DEFEATED Valuev, secondly how long are you going to hold the Wlad fight over Hayes head when it comes to Vitali? Believe it or not they are DIFFERNT boxers… Also by that logic why would Vitali have ever gotten a shot at losing to Lewis when he QUIT in a moment of weakness against Byrd? or why would Wlad EVER have gotten multiple opportunities to become a Champion when he was taking beatings from the likes of Purrity, Sanders and Brewster? This “he fought scared against Wlad defense” has expired and lets get real Wlad fought SCARED also I did not see him REALLY press Haye till round 12….

Posted March 22, 2013 11:22 am 


The title has it backwards – David Haye needs to get a fight with Vitali, not the other way around. A fight with Vit Klit would give Haye money & relevance, for a short time anyway. Given Vit Klit’s age, you never know, maybe Haye could get lucky – but more than likely it will be another boring fight with Haye refusing to engage, and Vitali giving out a one-sided beatdown to the extent that he can with Haye running away.

Klitschko needs to fight David Haye? Please. Haye is garbage.

Posted March 22, 2013 11:13 am 


Haye is doing it again, and most of you are falling for it. Why give him another chance to pad his bank account, what do you want? a David Haye super retirement fund? does anyone think, this cunning,oppertunistic man worries if he wins or loses? he does not. If he should win against a now old (as fighters go) Vitali,who he did not want to fight 4 years ago, what will you do? say he is an ATG heavyweight, don’t make me laugh, and if he loses, they will say,well, Vitali was just to big for him. Haye is hoping people remain gullible, waiting to see who “WILL “be the one to beat a Klitschko, and pay him another big purse. Forget about him, give the young true heavyweight prospects, who fight regularly, a chance to make a decent purse, as I’ve said before, he thrives on this publicity, he is a fraud, treat him like one, ignore him.

Posted March 22, 2013 10:57 am 

Unbiased Dane

Here we go againg. An ATG great like Vitali doesnt need someone like Haye.
Besides does enyone belive Haye would fight eny different as he did in his fights against Valuev and Wlad, eny good arguments on that ?

Posted March 22, 2013 10:36 am 


OK if Vitali is “OLD” then he should be retiring am I right? other than that he is a standing Champion and if he chooses to defend why NOT a former Cruiserweight who he will outweigh by 40 pounds of raw muscle in the ring and tower over… Lennox Lewis did NOT need to be in his prime to gut out a victory against a PRIME Vitali Klits who was bigger than him are you saying that you fear for Vitali against a guy who is going to look like a poodle in the ring with him….???? AGAIN retire or we what are we to deduce from this?

Posted March 22, 2013 10:28 am 

Bo Bo Olson

Four years ago when Vitilie was ‘young’ haye pulled out. Not that Vitilie is so old, ov course Haye is now ready to fight him. Vitialy don’t need Haye…Haye had his chance and chickened.

Posted March 22, 2013 10:02 am 


Bears, are you still trying to sell that eliminator as some sort of indicator of the quality of Thompsons foes leading up to fighting Wlad the second time? C’mon man those guys were BUMS for the most part nobodies and guys sporting double digit losses (Maurice Harris)….. You want to deride Floyd Mayweather for boxing World Champions and HOF fighters sillly over the past few years and then sell us on some sort of SAD eliminator for Thompson? AGAIN another Bears contradiction, at least you pretty much admitted that Mayweather has had superior foes to the Klits over the past few years…. And if you want to contradict that point I just rammed down your gullet I will be MORE than happy to show you the indirect admission you made… Right now your ego is telling you “fight back” try and outwit Redmond, but remember a GOOD Lawyer ONLY asks questions he knows the answers to its called LEADING the witness Hillbilly!

Posted March 22, 2013 9:56 am 


Both the Klits are just wanting to get more W’s on the record, hence fighting the bums put in front of them. They’re not interested in the money, having both raked in a nice fortune. They don’t need it. This is why the Heavyweight division is no longer exciting. The lower weights are reaping in the rewards with the amounts of Great match-ups being made.

Why chance it fighting Haye ? Haye put up a poor performance against Wlad. Haye did state his broken toe was the reason he under performed and showed it in the press conference. He did look ridiculous making that statement but “What if” he was telling the truth and couldn’t push off from that foot. Do you think Wlad doesn’t want the rematch because of the danger Haye represents with his power? Even coming towards the end of that fight Haye was always a danger.

Does Vitali not fancy his chances either after all the trash talking from Haye? I’m certain both the Klits have discussed Haye in private.

I would still fancy seeing either a rematch with Wlad (to show us that the Toe incident had no bearing in their fight and that the better man won) or a fight with Vitali. Both these fights would in my opinion be better than the fights that have recently happened. After one round you can see that all these guys shouldn’t be in the same ring as the Klits and none of them have looked at all dangerous.

The Klits must fight the danger men rather than the current line-up of bums. Fighting the likes of Fury, Wilder, Boytsov, Abdusalamov, Flores, Pulev, Povetkin and even Haye are the only options out there. They may win them all convincingly, but the public need a big fight.

If they do fight these guys and then knock them all out or put up a great performance, it will only enhance their legacy. Proving to us that no current fighter (old & new) are in their league.

Posted March 22, 2013 9:55 am 


Bears, you are APPLAUDING the Klits to get paid relative PEANUTS for fighting what you NOW seem to admit are inept mandatories like Mormeck and Charr yet you want to deride Floyd Mayweather for making 45 million dollars for fighting YOUNGER 31 or 32 at the time 3 division then standing World Champion and definite HOF fighter Miguel Cotto?…… Or facing Robert Guerrero who is a 4 weight Champion, 29 and in his prime while FMJ is 36 years old… AGAIN I know you will try and wiggle and play drunken politician but your contradictions are GLARING and easily exposed… The FACT that you would try to sell Tony Thompson as on TOP of his game has to be the biggest joke ever especially when you juxtapose that vs Mayweather, Pacquiao and Vitali who could absorb a net decrease in athletic performance and STILL fight above Thompsons level….God you make this like taking candy from a baby, I feel like a child abuser beating you in this manner….

Posted March 22, 2013 9:33 am 


Floyds exciting and virtuoso nature is validated by the FACT that NO OTHER active boxer can get MORE people to pay $70 from the comfort of their own homes to watch him perform…People tune in to see Mayweather practice BOXING in its most pure form, he is more video game than fighter at time because no one can hit and NOT get hit like him… These lumbering HW’s who barely let their hands go had BETTER produce some KO’s or else, well we see how exciting things are at HW, there has NOT been a HW fight on PPV since God knows when…

Posted March 22, 2013 9:28 am 


Most people slept through most of Vitali’s career. Now he has a chance to end on a high. In wembley with 90,000 people and he loses his balls.

Posted March 22, 2013 8:53 am 

Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Wanna talk about BORING??? Watch a Fraud Mayflower fight. At least we’re almost guaranteed to see KOs and TKOs with Klitschko fights. Simple logic and facts, ladies. Facts.

Posted March 22, 2013 8:45 am 


Haye is the only person can give competitive fight! To be fair I dont even watch K brothers fight anymore because its so boring!

Posted March 22, 2013 8:35 am 

Bill Hardy

haye needs to fight vitali to prove that he’s(haye)isn’t a chicken?

Posted March 22, 2013 8:03 am 



Posted March 22, 2013 7:18 am 

BEARS (herald and harbinger of the lightning that is real and true boxing knowledge)

who would deny that floyd, pac, and vitaly are showing signs of ageing? are you seriously questioning that sredmond? we can talk about exactly where we see it in the tape if you would like. I can get old and new tape and point out the differences again MOST ALL FIGHT FANS KNOW THIS i consider this obvious. im failing to get any kind of point out of your postts. i cant glean what you think im flip flopping on. compareing the klitshcKOs to haye is like apples to oranges. the klitschKOs dont specialize and cherry pick 39+ year olds and target them like haye did in their ALL TIME GREAT heavyweight careers and campaigns. so guys are so intimidated by wlad (he already smoked haye), the contenders in the heavyweight division are so intimidated that wlad (who fights 3 times a year AWESOME for the champ) has to take voluntarys and get paid millions. gets paid millions to fight the mormeks of the world. in a stay busy, cant seem to make a better fight type of bout. how often does wlad do this and given the circumstances of course its understood povetkin, helenius, pulev, fury, price, ustinov were not stepping. you have heavyweights CALLING DAVID HAYE OUT then and now to fight and david targeted the 39+ year olds. tony thompson if you look at his tape looks like he always has looked. he won the ibf/ibo eliminator and stopped his last 6 leading up to wlad. so whatever you seemed to say in your posts. i think you can consider yourself smugly rebuffed. btw i thought the wlad vs wach fight was sweet. i thought it was great that wlad was able to make that bout happen ithought it was good matchmaking. i was surprised wlad was able to make it happen. it turned into an awesome fight on a sweet channel EPIX. that fight was fireworks. just powerblasting non stop.

Posted March 22, 2013 6:14 am 

BEARS (herald and harbinger of the lightning that is real and true boxing knowledge)

you seriously need to be told the difference b/w cleaning out a division including the klitschKO’s and then fighting the 39 and 40 year olds? lol and tony thompson? tony thompson would be hayes best opponent, thats the difference. the current best southpaw in the division. off like a six win by stoppage streak. so lets compare them. people show signs of age at their own uniqe time. you can say all those guys are past it. tony thompson is not a “past it”. i thought that was clear to any boxing fan. i thought it was obvious

Posted March 22, 2013 5:57 am 


lol oh i love it.

Posted March 22, 2013 5:38 am 


Pulev-Wlad 2013 – Vitali-Haye 2013 –

Posted March 22, 2013 5:14 am 


Bears is a flip flopping fool no doubt about that

Posted March 22, 2013 5:05 am 


Vitali should fight the guys like haye, pulev, povetkin and stiverne to prove himself to be a cjampion not the other way around

Posted March 22, 2013 4:58 am 


Sooooooo let’s be clear Bears NOW thinks 40 year old guys are “past it” so basically why have you been fighting me about terribly out of shape Thompson and OLD Mormeck as Wlad opponents??? Do you deny saying that age is irrelevant? And how do you position Thompson as fresher than Vitali who had NOT lost in 10 years??? Are you going to refer “to this imaginary tape” where Thompson moves like water and Vitali is taking beatings or getting stopped by one of his last 2 opponents?? Again I am just SHOWING how YOU CONTRADICT yourself…

Posted March 22, 2013 4:51 am 


What I basically here is that guys are saying Vitali should DUCK a guy who last came to the ring at 210 pounds ???? Haye will NOT be even close to the heaviest or youngest guy Vitali fought over the past few years?? Basically you twerps are indirectly admitting that Haye is MORE dangerous than anyone Vitali has fought in AWHILE… It was OK when he was beating on Adamek who weighed more than Hayes last fight but is slower and cannot punch, but Haye who is gonna look like a child in the ring is simply too dangerous?? The guy fights around the Cruiser limit, this is a shameful stance IMO…. Retire Vitali, your fans don’t believe in you…

Posted March 22, 2013 4:41 am 


Bears, there you go talking about 39 and 40
Year old boxers again when you say age does not matter AS LONG as the older boxer is a Klit opponent?? See what I saying, you’re a serial storyteller!! And a BAD one at that LOL… You were arguing that Tony Thompson was pretty much peak, but that Floyd, PAC and Vitali were on the way down?? According to your silliness Thompson fights the same and these 3 hapless guys are just lingering on the P4P list…????? So which is it Bears because prior to what you think your goonish ideas DONT exist in different universes…

Posted March 22, 2013 4:35 am 


Vitali chased the fight and has lost his balls. Simples

Posted March 22, 2013 4:32 am 


Vitali is great………..arguably the greatest but he is well past it. Haye, a blown up cruiser would take him now. Too fast, too explosive. Some of the taller guys would also threaten Vitali. Vitali has an awesome style against short fat guys and underpowered blown up cruisers. He would at his age struggle with the top 10 heavies out there. Facing guys like Charr says it all

Posted March 22, 2013 3:37 am 


The answer is quite simple – ’cause we want to see it! Otherwise – no reason at all :-)

Posted March 22, 2013 3:25 am 

Enter The Hayemaker

Haye also needs to fight Vitali if he wants any chance at all of a rematch with Wlad. At the moment, even if he makes his way thrugh the proper channels and becomes mandatory for one of Wlad’s belts, Wlad would rather bin the belt than give Haye another shot. Guaranteed. If Haye were to somehow shock an old Vitali, however, then Wlad would have to fight him. Realistically, it’s the only way. You can also forget the ‘Vitali’s still sore at Haye’ routine, they’ve been all smiles and handshakes since then, it’s no longer a factor.

Posted March 22, 2013 3:04 am 

The Toe

Haye is a fraud , and besides Vitali will step on his toe and thats the end of Haye .

Posted March 22, 2013 2:41 am 

PitBull Petrill

Diver is an opportunistic infection who wishes to prey on a senior friggin citizen. Vitali is damn near 42. If he were serious about Vitali he would have fought him 4 years ago. This fight would prove NOTHING! If Diver wins, he beat an old man past his prime and if he loses, his legacy plummets into the psuedo-abyss

Posted March 22, 2013 1:48 am 

Anthony Jeffrey

BEARS, I agree, Haye couldn’t back up the trash and that’s his biggest downfall. However, if he kept his mouth shut all along and if you look at the way his recent fights have ended (apart from Wlad, obviously) then it’s arguable that he is still a credible contender.

Posted March 22, 2013 1:25 am 


AMEN to what BEARS said.

Posted March 22, 2013 12:52 am 


this article by anthony jeffrey was utter garbage. haye talked mad smack about cleaning the division and the klitschKOs out and being exciting. the ONLY thing he cleanded the division out of was 39 and 40 year olds.”CLEAR PAST ITS”. the ruiz’s, harrisons, barrets, valueves. it was basically a retirement party after every haye fight and haye himself is always retireing or talking about it. now vitaly is 42 and he wants to fight him. makes sense he fights all the 39+ fighters. haye was horrible against wlad. falling down repeatedly fishing for a fould and disqualification win. it was disgraceful. haye tried to talk himself into a fight this time around. thank god it failed and now he is forced to put the work in. but rest assured he will take the path of least resistance not clean anything out. when he got that wba belt it was already wlads for beating chagaev and then don king pulled some bs and got chagaev stripped. wlad won that belt twice essentially. haye has accomplished NOTHING at heavyweight. he’s not as accomplished as povetkin, pulev, or even helenius. im just happy nobody buy’s the smack talk anymore.

Posted March 22, 2013 12:13 am 


Since when does earn come into the picture today.Like Wach..Charr..Sonowski..Chisora..Im not a Haye fan but just saying…

Posted March 21, 2013 11:51 pm 


Quack quack quack

Posted March 21, 2013 11:21 pm 

Anthony Jeffrey

Vito, thanks for the feedback. I’m in terrible shape – I guess i’ll be expecting a call from either brother very soon ;)

Posted March 21, 2013 11:10 pm 


Let the HYPEMAKER beat some fighters 1st. He has to earn it

Posted March 21, 2013 10:41 pm 


Vitali would ko Haye into a shambling mess…yes, even at tbe age of 42

Posted March 21, 2013 10:37 pm 


The writer is an idiot that does not watch boxing. Not a single fighter either brother has faced since Haye has been a bum or out of shape. After reading the title of the article and then that stupid line right there, you would have to be a fool to read on. What kind of shape are YOU in, Anthony Jeffrey?

Posted March 21, 2013 10:32 pm 


its a tough sell no matter how you look at it…now if he were to knock out or beat convincigly anonther top ranked heavy i.e Povetkin, Thompson etc maybe people will buy into it stands no thanks..

Posted March 21, 2013 9:58 pm 


The problem with Haye is that he is just too small, he did not do enough against the less durable jab and grab Klitchsko, how does he expect us to believe he will change strategies fighting the iron chinned, stalk and wear down Klitcsko, albeit an older one..

Posted March 21, 2013 9:55 pm 


“back to beating down unknown, out-of-shape bums” This is unfair to say. I think the Klitschkos have fought pretty much everybody around. They can’t help it if all that’s left are “bums.” As for David Haye, I think Vitali should blow him off just to disrespect him. After all, Vitali doesn’t have anything to prove by fighting David Haye.

Posted March 21, 2013 9:46 pm 

Textbook Hayelord

If all ten of David’s toes are in working order then Vitali is in trouble, i think the Hayemaker will flatten him no later than the second round. We saw Haye murder Chisora and i don’t think Vitali can win just by being bigger than Hayemaker.
Vitali will never fight Haye.

Posted March 21, 2013 9:19 pm 


99% of posts here DKSAB…….talk talk chirp chirp – stfu and watch the fight….

Posted March 21, 2013 9:16 pm 


STFU PP didn’t I ban you ?

Posted March 21, 2013 9:11 pm 


Brittards are the poison of the Boxing World

Posted March 21, 2013 9:05 pm 


Haye would beat a prime Vitali. TKO 6

Posted March 21, 2013 9:04 pm 

Your mother


Posted March 21, 2013 9:02 pm 


top hat is right all that earn stuff went out the window in 1975…a real shame but still a fact.Wouldnt mind seeing V.K. fight Haye or Pulev better then some of the crap we seen lately…

Posted March 21, 2013 8:43 pm 


Haye has proven to be the LEAST exciting HW against big men. If he barely beat Valuev the worst beltholder in HW history running what will he do agains even an old Vitaly? Same….no matter what he boasts. Just like with Wlad. So yeah a fighter with no name lik se Chart actually fought even with no name. So they are more exciting outside of the UK.

Posted March 21, 2013 8:38 pm 


The simple answer to the title of your article: Haye needs Vitali not the other way around. Haye is a mid-level contender only a mid-level one and nothing else. He will have to earn his right to fight the big man.

Posted March 21, 2013 8:19 pm 

Foche you

I really think Vitali is too old now. Next good opponent he will face, he will lose to and then all the dumb hater will say ” You see how bad was Vitali Klitschko. ” Of course, they will never mention that he is 42 years old and almost no heavyweight were still good at that age.

Posted March 21, 2013 7:26 pm 

E in Denver

Haye is a respectable choice if Haye EARNS a title shot. But fighting Haye is not a necessity for either Bro as the title implies. Frankly I would rather see Haye vs. Adamek or Cunningham than Haye vs. either K-Bros. We have seen Twice what Haye’s game plan vs. a giant is. VK even in his 40s isn’t a sloth like Valuev. Haye needs up his activity & fight 2-3 times a year. With a scarcity of worthy opposition the Bros won’t have much of a choice.

Posted March 21, 2013 7:15 pm 


“Tell it like it is” has the beat

Posted March 21, 2013 7:03 pm 


Oh, and there’s the Arreola-Stirvene winner. A winner who actually ‘earned’ their title shot

Posted March 21, 2013 7:02 pm 

Tell It Like it is

Anthony Jeffrey you are an idiot. Let’s look at your distorted delusional article…suggesting that Haye deserves a shot at VK. You said,” David Haye is still the most exciting fighter in the division.” But you also said that, “…true the brash Brit got soundly beaten and was unable to land anything meaningful on Wlad,” I agree that he was pathetic against the superior fighter WK. And according to you “he (Haye) is the most exciting in the division” and you imply “the best fighter” out there. Well, if he is the most exciting and the best fighter and he was soundly beaten, I guess that pretty well says it all. The Ks are the most superior and the best fighters in the world… It’s not that the Ks, as you as are “back to beating down unknown, out-of-shape bums.” They make everyone including your friend Haye look that way.

Posted March 21, 2013 7:01 pm 


If Vitali fights on and his next opponent is another obscure type with only 10-12 fights, yes I agree to an extent that it doesn’t look too good with Haye trying to worm his way in again. However, I have a feeling that his next opponent (if not Haye, and for the sake of all that is good and decent, I hope it isn’t), then I see him taking on a “respectable” name like the Fury-Cunningham winner, or maybe Pulev or Povetkin if a fight with Wlad hasn’t happened. Or Denotay Wilder, because he has a record so glossy that I need to wear shades each time I go on boxrec and stumble into his profile. While Wilder has done absolutely nothing (unless he fights some good very soon), and is therefore probably less deserving than the totally inactive Haye. He would bring in some intrigue- very glossy record, and olympic medal, young, as tall as VK. I would actually rather a VK-Wilder fight over a VK-Haye fight, due to principles.

Posted March 21, 2013 7:00 pm 

top hat

JJ yes I agree to a point. He was a champion at cruise though dont forget so that helped but yes his mouth got him there, is that his fault though. Fair enough your right about thompson but if vitali dont want this retire, he shouldnt go and fight a nobody who is underfeated after 10 fights after beating nobody as this happens all to much and knocks the haye argument out the window

Posted March 21, 2013 6:51 pm 


I could beat the crap thompson beat before the second fight. Hype job do you mean guys like Wilder and Mitchel

Posted March 21, 2013 6:44 pm 


It asctually makes a mockery of the sweet science if Faye were to jump the queue again. Boxing is suppossed to be a serious sport with rules, guidelines, and regulations. It’s not wrestling were the biggest mouth on the block gets handed one title shot after another for free

Posted March 21, 2013 6:43 pm 


top hat. No they didn’t (well Thompson was a mandatory). But Haye actually talked himself into a title fight (without earning it) against Valuev. Just by being an egotistical mouth. He then managed to get a 50/50 split agiand Wlad (even though Wlad held the majority of the belts, and Haye still hadn’t beaten a live body). 60/40 at the most he deserved. But his mouth got him there. And after all his promises. He failed Miserably! Now he is using his mouth Again for more to be handed to him on a silver platter!! He is disgusting. If boxing excellence was based on the gift of the gab, sugar ray robinson step aside. We have a new p4p numero uno in Faye. For Once Haye should earn a title shot

Posted March 21, 2013 6:41 pm 


Yes top hat agreed. Would love to see it though. I think Vitali would win and it could be a move he lives to regret

Posted March 21, 2013 6:37 pm 

top hat

Man calm down you will make yourself ill. Im not saying he deserves it, but did charr, wach, chisora, thompson,mormack and johnson all beat top guys to get a shot at the Ks. No they got a shot because the klits new they would have no probs in winning

Posted March 21, 2013 6:33 pm 


Honestly, can some brit haye kool aid drinking moran please enlighten us Why should Haye jump the queue and take on Vitali. What’s the reason? Because he can “talk” a good fight? Because he is British and wears a union jack on his shorts? Is that the criteria nowadays?

Posted March 21, 2013 6:27 pm 

top hat

Jj you are a very angry man. Takes a real hard man to be angry on a message board and im quite scared of you. Get youe facts right before you come on here talking about offers. Do not trust vitalis dodgy people. Bet you were one of the angry guys wanting a lewis rematch. Calm down chill outxxx

Posted March 21, 2013 6:26 pm 

Gareth Scott

The reason he won’t fight Haye is because Vitali would get stopped and he knows it, he’s too old, too slow, doesnt hit hard enough, haye would win inside 8 rounds or whenever he decided to put his foot to the floor.

Posted March 21, 2013 6:21 pm 


The only offer haye got was before the wlad fight.

Posted March 21, 2013 6:20 pm 


Its true top hat, very similar i have to agree

Posted March 21, 2013 6:18 pm 


” if you say you want to KO haye and get one better than your brother like vitali said after the wlad fight then why not back up thoose words and do it. Thats what I dont get” Well let me explain it to you then. He said that ‘THEN’. Haye had his chance against VK a few years back. Did a runner. He has his chance again last year, also did a runner and fought VK rethread Chisora for a few extra pounds. If I was in VKs position I wouldnt wanna give him another huge payday. For what? For messing me around on two seperate occasions? For losing by landslide to my brother? For being and egotiscal self important whore? No, I’d get more satisfaction have him wait and sweat and EARN his shot against me the HARD way. By Earning it. Haye deserves NO favours from me

Posted March 21, 2013 6:17 pm 


Great point top hat

Posted March 21, 2013 6:16 pm 

Mma fighter

David haye is going to eat a lot of leather Stewart Trained them very well haye will lose badly

Posted March 21, 2013 6:14 pm 


JJ you fool perhaps because this is about vitali not wlad

Posted March 21, 2013 6:12 pm 

Mma fighter

In the Lewis fight his trainer rubbed his legs with Vaseline . His body could not sweat

Posted March 21, 2013 6:10 pm 


I have said I think Vitali will win. I dont really mind Vitali but if you hate someone as much as virali hates haye and if you say you want to KO haye and get one better than your brother like vitali said after the wlad fight then why not back up thoose words and do it. Thats what I dont get

Posted March 21, 2013 6:08 pm 


@ Ha Ha – spot on. Well said and sums it up

Posted March 21, 2013 6:04 pm 

top hat

All the klits fans saying vitali has nothing to prove, should not fight haye, they are the same people who abused lewis for not taking a re match. un real the klit fans you couldnt make this up. One rule for one and all that

Posted March 21, 2013 6:04 pm 


Nameless and sred are spot on

Posted March 21, 2013 5:45 pm 


why should we have to watch haye run and get his ass kicked again. have the schlub fight Povo

Posted March 21, 2013 5:42 pm 


Vitali running away from his own words. Shameful end to a dull career that is always going to come down to Tko6

Posted March 21, 2013 5:35 pm 


itali would still crush haye. haye won’t fight anyone but a klit, because there is a good chance he gets ktfo and loses his pay day if he does.

Posted March 21, 2013 5:32 pm 


Vitali WAS chasing Haye like a HORNY virgin when he was coming direct off that loss to Wlad.. He was discussing how he wanted to KO Haye and shut him up, well here is ANOTHER chance to do it for the biggest check Vitali will EVER cash in boxing… But the nutless Klit faithful would rather keep their man safte than let him cash a BIG check against a guy he will outweigh by a solid 40 pounds… Thats real talk!

Posted March 21, 2013 5:11 pm 


If haye is so dangerous let’s see him knock out Thompson

Posted March 21, 2013 5:03 pm 

Eleanore the Hag


Posted March 21, 2013 4:55 pm 

Eleanore the Hag

Calling fighters bums. Nice going author! :(

Posted March 21, 2013 4:55 pm 


Who cares about this division? That should be the real question. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted March 21, 2013 4:49 pm 


Spin the king…. Your argument carried no logic, because im a brit. Well you are very clever. If Vitali thinks he can beat haye he will fight him as they both hate each other. Haye is waiting for an offer, perhaps it could be vitali thinks haye would be too dangerous why else would he duck him.

Posted March 21, 2013 4:24 pm 


typo=Lewis damn near knocking his eye out

Posted March 21, 2013 4:17 pm 


Vitali beat Chisora clearly but the did not come within a COUNTRYMILE of stopping him so assigning a KO that Vitali could not manage is just WEAK… Live with what the Klits ACTUALLY do instead of prognosticating about outcomes they did NOT achieve… Vitali ran out of injury excuses after Byrd, and then Vitali knocking his eye damn near out…. Chisora pushed him HARD and Haye might do worse…

Posted March 21, 2013 4:16 pm 

What a joke

haye might be in shape but he is no less of a BUM than all the other Klit opponents people like to trash. What did he ever do at HW? So, when Vitali beats Chisora, he’s an “Out of shape bum” but when Haye beats him, it automatically means Haye deserves an 8 figure payday? Gotta wonder if these people are all Haye’s friends and family posting here.

Posted March 21, 2013 4:11 pm 


terrible journalism here, as per usual.
for the record, Vitali tore a shoulder muscle in his fight with Chisora, hence why Vitali struggled with Chisora. To add, this type of injury, which in effect puts your whole arm out of action, was heightened by the type of fighter Chisora is; a relentless pressure fighter. And for the record, Vitali dealt with him, with this obvious huge disadvantage pretty easily.
Had Vitali had full use of his hands for 12 full rounds, Chisora would have ended up like Shannon Briggs; bust up and damaged goods.
A half decent journalist would of course known about this, and wrote a more appropriate article.

Posted March 21, 2013 4:10 pm 


Vitali is gonna be mayor of Siberia discussing how he once went 6 with Lewis and got chopped up, and then Sam Peter if he does not take a fight with Haye as opposed to these sparring partners Wlad has been capping as of late.. Pianeta, Wach and Thompson… Jus say’in!!

Posted March 21, 2013 4:06 pm 


Vitali is no longer a pro. He’s been at work in the Ukraine parlament since last year. He will address the public soon concerning his retirement.

Posted March 21, 2013 4:06 pm 

Klits = Hall of fame

I want to see the physique on this so called writer. Big, fat, flabby computer nerd calling professional athletes out of shape bums. Can you make it off the couch without needing oxygen? None of the Klit opponents since haye were out of shape they simply were not good enough. No one is – including Haye.

Posted March 21, 2013 4:05 pm 


The false bravado does NOT fly you guys are terrified that a former Cruiser with a BIG mouth might catch Vitali and have him stumbling.. I favor Kilts due to his massive size and strength but Haye’s athletic gifts, speed and power present a possible wild card…Klits can retire with NO fights against name opposition in the last however many years if he wants to but despite the attacks on Haye people know he is dangerous….This desire to punish Haye really ends up depriving Vitali of a possible opponent with some cache but at this point who cares… Klitschko is a guy who is selling stats NOT quality wins….

Posted March 21, 2013 4:04 pm 

Get a Life

If Nameless wasn’t hating on the Klits, he wouldn’t know what to do with his pitiful, failure of a life.

Posted March 21, 2013 4:02 pm 

Ray Davies

I guarantee that this British/Klit hating “writer” couldn’t name a single fighter that the Klitschkos should have fought instead of the “Out of shape bums” they have fought since Haye. Complains about their opponents but offers no alternative. Typical hater. By the way, Tony Thompson is an out of shape bum? What does that make David Price? You know nothing about boxing and should not be writing about it. Haye already proved that he can’t locate his balls once he is inside the ring with a Klitschko, Vitali fighting him will prove nothing.

Posted March 21, 2013 4:01 pm 


or he just ducks him for someone nobody knows jack about

Posted March 21, 2013 3:59 pm 


He won the round that wlad promised to deliver the KO. Haye retires vitali!

Posted March 21, 2013 3:58 pm 

Spin The Kinks

It seems we have a lot of idiots here with short memories. Haye couldn’t win a round against Wlad but he’s going to retire Vitali? Have another beer, Brits. Keep drinking…

Posted March 21, 2013 3:55 pm 

Spin The Kinks

How is Haye a good thing for Vitali’s resume? Haye’s a HW BUM whose best win was against Chisora, who Vitali already beat. If Vitali fights Haye, he beats him and people still wouldn’t give Vitali credit.

Posted March 21, 2013 3:54 pm 

Cpt.ivan danko

It seems that Haye is going to retire Vitali.

Posted March 21, 2013 3:53 pm 

Spin The Kinks

knowall, your view is biased because you are an idiotic Brit who still drinks the Haye Kool-aid. Silly guy. Vitali doesn’t have to fight Haye. Haye already had his chance and pulled out.

Posted March 21, 2013 3:52 pm 


“Haye is definitely the next best HW after the bros”

Says who? Tony Thompson is and he just destroyed another Brit hype job. Wlad already beat him twice. Let Haye go fight him. Haye is a giant hype job and nothing more. All mouth, zero balls.

Posted March 21, 2013 3:51 pm 


vitali wont fancy fighting Haye, thats why it wont happen simple. If vitali thinks he can win then he will fight him. My money would be on Vitali, but I dont think he shares my view

Posted March 21, 2013 3:50 pm 


Didn’t even read it. Vitali doesn’t need to fight Haye. Vitali’s legacy is secure. Haye is the one who needs Klitschko fights. The writer muct be a Brit or maybe simply a Haye nuthugger who doesn’t care that his hero took a giant crap on him July 2, 2011.

Posted March 21, 2013 3:44 pm 


Its a big duck from vittles.

Posted March 21, 2013 3:28 pm 


So, you idiots are saying that Vitali hasn’t beaten anyone…. WHO has HAYE beaten to be considered the best heavyweight after the Klitschkos?

Posted March 21, 2013 3:26 pm 


Vitali should just retire with the gaudy stats and the WEAK resume he is actually debating having a fight against a name opponent? Oh well let the elder Klit go be a politician and talk about woulda coulda shoulda against Lewis because thats about all there is left to discuss..

Posted March 21, 2013 2:56 pm 


This article is garbage haye nuthugging while klitschKO bashing. Haye is not the most exciting fighter at heavy and never has been. Haye talks a big game that’s it. He said he would clean out the division including the klitschkos. Haye cleaned the division out of all the 39 and 40 year olds and now wants a 42 year old vitaly. Barrett, ruiz, harrison, valueve, haye literally fought al retirement partys. Didn’t even face the best contenders. He nver even should’ve had the wba belt. It was robbed from chagaev in a don king debaucle and wlad beat chagaev for it. Wlad essentiall won the wba belt twice. If u think clearingout the division of 39 and 40 year olds, and repeatedly flopping on the canvas fishing for fouls and a disqualification win against wlad is exciting like the writer of this article. Your plum retarded. He actually calls haye the most exciting fighter because he beat non skill chisora? Vitay literally beat chisora with one arm. Helenius was hurt and still won and helenius looked worse after he ko’ed and beat lyakhovic then after he went 12 injured with chisora. Why does esb let garbage like this article even on the site?

Posted March 21, 2013 2:31 pm 

Jay rock

Please, Haye is trash!

Posted March 21, 2013 2:17 pm 


. . . and Wlad-Pulev 2013!

Posted March 21, 2013 1:57 pm 


A lot of rubbish has been talked about the Haye vs Wlad fight such as Haye got raped by Wlad. David definitely stunk the joint out against Wlad but Wlad did very little but out jab Haye. Haye is definitely the next best HW after the bros

Posted March 21, 2013 1:40 pm 


Do not appreciate the author denigrating the klitschko opponents. Tony Thompson just starched the top brit.
Really would not be interested to watch this match after the way haye ran and fell against Wlad.

Posted March 21, 2013 1:37 pm 

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