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Old Yank

David — Thanx for the kudos!

Posted December 10, 2012 9:51 pm 

Old Yank

Tex — You’re sounding a bit like the sentimentalist who wrote this article (ha, ha, ha). So obviously I agree with you.

Posted December 10, 2012 9:51 pm 

Tex Hassler

Pacquiao may have had one fight too many. I felt he should have retired a year or so ago while he was still on top. Now I guess Pacquiao vs Mayweather will never happen but it might have never happened any way. I felt Pacquiao at his peak 4 years ago was the better man.

Posted December 10, 2012 9:00 pm 

Tex Hassler

Tex Hassler says – I have felt for some time that Pacquiao needed to retire while he was on top. I guess Mayweather is kicking himself for not fighting Pacquiao instead of letting Marquez fight him but Floyd had not control over that. This was a great win for Marquez even at this stage of his career. He should also retire now.

Posted December 10, 2012 5:18 pm 

David Ball

Just got around to reading this Yank….you may take away Boxy’s mantle of the Greatest Fight Prophet Ever on ESB, Kudos!

Posted December 10, 2012 9:21 am 

Old Yank

Del G — Thank you! You got to like those no-doubt endings!

Posted December 9, 2012 6:22 pm 

Del G

Excellent article Yank, and now the dust has settled. Almost 100%, that was some Mexican Baseball Bat Pac walked onto. I had Pac by TKO in 9 as u may remember. And many thought it would go the 12. Thankfully it didnt. Decisive as can possibly be for Marquez. Well done JMM

Posted December 9, 2012 3:55 pm 

Old Yank

lefhook — Good to see ya!

Posted December 9, 2012 12:11 pm 


Nopporn – I do know what you are saying about Arum. But as we saw, even the Bobfather can’t save you from an icing.

Posted December 9, 2012 10:36 am 

Tomato Can

Yup you’re right. I’m going to the results thread, see you there.

Posted December 8, 2012 10:08 pm 


This is a lot better than that system they were trying. It was terrible

Posted December 8, 2012 9:48 pm 

Tomato Can

Yes, the format is close to what it use to be. Earlier when I posted that question, the site was acting up on my end, the background was white, and the posts were popping up in reverse. Strange.

Posted December 8, 2012 9:39 pm 


TC..Seems like the formats back to the old system as well. Much better!

Posted December 8, 2012 8:34 pm 


TC… Strange bud is’nt it. I remember certain guys slaughtering Pac. lol

Posted December 8, 2012 8:33 pm 

Tomato Can

Hmmmm, I never changed my perception on the matter either.

Posted December 8, 2012 8:29 pm 


We’ll seems like there’s a few guys changing there perception of Pac. Mines has never changed. Nobody goes through the weights like pac did clean. Strange how time changes folks

Posted December 8, 2012 8:26 pm 


Old Yank back and the site looks like its back to how it should be…

Posted December 8, 2012 8:16 pm 

Tomato Can

Mr. Bill, hope all is well with you, but does you’re sister know you’re tipping the bottle while minding the store?

Posted December 8, 2012 8:05 pm 

Tomato Can

Mr. Bill, great analogy. Pryor/Arguillo ii. LMAO

Posted December 8, 2012 8:04 pm 

Tomato Can

did this site just change again?

Posted December 8, 2012 7:56 pm 

Just saying you’re an idiot

Old Yank wrote the damn article, he is entitled to chime into the comments.

Posted December 8, 2012 7:36 pm 


“Pacman-Marquez 4” seems to me like “Pryor-Arguello 2” of ’83…. Both in great shape and all, but Pryor being younger, quicker and more powerful, went through Arguello pretty easily in the rematch in Vegas…. Just thinking out loud……. Pacman goes through Marquez tonight….

Posted December 8, 2012 7:21 pm 


I just hope this # 4 ain’t no snoozer like many rubber matches are, etc….. Who wants another “Leonard-Duran 3” fight tonight…..??? Hell, I’m not even big on “Ali-Norton 3” either when you get down to it, folks…. However, “Bowe-Holy 3” was a goodie in 1995….

Posted December 8, 2012 7:17 pm 

Just saying….

See what I mean.

Posted December 8, 2012 6:48 pm 

Old Yank

Bein’ cordial.

Posted December 8, 2012 6:37 pm 

Just saying…

Lots of posts on here by Old Yank. What gives with that?

Posted December 8, 2012 6:37 pm 

Old Yank

Vinman — In a few hours we will see if any slippage is evident. JMM might be in the same boat — a cancel-out if you will. But it appears Marquez has been doing much differently to prepare for this bout. As we all know, the definition of insanity is to repeat the same behavior and expect a different result. Manny appears to be repeating his behavior where Marquez is changing his up. We shall see.

Posted December 8, 2012 6:37 pm 

Old Yank

Tomato Can — Thank you for the comments. I’m not shocked that we see this unfolding in a similar way.

Posted December 8, 2012 6:34 pm 


Old yank.. I wanna be like you when I get old, wisened and learned

Posted December 8, 2012 6:34 pm 

Old Yank

Supreme — Thanx! Great to be back!

Posted December 8, 2012 6:32 pm 

Supreme Court

Hello Old Yank!

Posted December 8, 2012 5:55 pm 


I take back the Roach Comment. missed the part where you write about the fighters.

Posted December 8, 2012 4:39 pm 


old yank , as usual wrong again. lol, JMM has never beat MP! no matter what or who says it! Secondly to read your thread I would swear that MP was 39 years old JMM was an up and comer. “Pretender to the Throne” This is where your train derails because even if PAC has loss a step so has JMM he is no spring chicken. That’s a big problem for JMM because he has to pick his battles cannot afford to get in a war with MP over 12 rounds JMM simply will not last and he knows that. JMM only hope is to continue to counter off MP aggression. As for the snipes at Roach, pretty low of you to try to assert that Chavez loss was somehow Freddie’s fault. Chavez barely paid attention to Roach instruction or training. Free money for Roach.

Posted December 8, 2012 4:37 pm 


Puntang, whats your major malfunction boy?! Damn, where’s your hatred stem from, childhood, mommy didn’t breast feed you long enough, daddy smack you around too much??? DAMN! GET A LIFE!!!

Posted December 8, 2012 4:35 pm 

Tomato Can

This is just a thought, but anyone who would drink their own piss to recycle it’s nutrients, would surely take PED’s as well. Heck, I would take PED’s before I drank J-Lo’s urine, little lone mine.

Posted December 8, 2012 4:05 pm 

Just saying…


Posted December 8, 2012 3:40 pm 

Old Yank

mr bill — Enhancing is epidemic. A near-40 year old athlete making that significant a change “naturally” raises a healthy dose of skepticism.

Posted December 8, 2012 3:20 pm 

The Mexican Killer

Easy Pacquiao WIN over the cry baby chump

Posted December 8, 2012 3:18 pm 

Old Yank

srminimo — Thank you kindly. I’m afraid an era is coming to a close as well.

Posted December 8, 2012 3:18 pm 

The Mexican Killer

The MexiCANT doesn’t stand a chance. Only stupid mexiCANTS think this chump will win. Pacquiao by a Tito style KO.

Posted December 8, 2012 3:17 pm 

Cupy Alto


Posted December 8, 2012 2:41 pm 


Te Tumbo- Suerte hoy, mi hermano. I’ve got the eerie feeling this might be the last time we’ll see one of these great warriors in the ring. The dissapointment will be that great. And I think they have both slowed down enough to make this an Ali – Frasier 3 type fight. These are two of my favorite warriors and I’ll be sad for whoever loses. May the best man – tonight- win. Great article Old Yank.

Posted December 8, 2012 2:26 pm 


I went on wiki and can’t seem to find what your talking about. It has the 3 official judges and 4 members of ring magazine. 1 had it for PAC 115-113. 2 for Marquez 115-113 and 117-111. The other a draw. That sounds like a very close fight to me. I’m tired of hearing people claim that Marquez won the fight hands down. It was close. And let’s say 2/3 (probably closer to 1/2) of the boxing public thought Marquez won that still means that it was a very close fight!

Posted December 8, 2012 2:14 pm 


Marquez looks juiced to the maxi-pad….

Posted December 8, 2012 1:46 pm 


I’m at my sisters crib minding the store while she is outta town with her hubby and kids and I’m gonna do the insane PPV tonight for Pacman-Marquez…. I’ll seek to obtain a copy next week at my crib from HBO, etc… Anyway, I see Pacman getting the late round TKO stoppage tonight somewhere in or near the 11th rd…

Posted December 8, 2012 1:12 pm 

It’s Me, Ernie

It’s quite remarkable that Manny does what he does, his schedule is insane…

Posted December 8, 2012 1:12 pm 

te tumbo

Btw OLD YANK, prepare for the predictably vicious responses from your multiposting and fat nemesis (“Godsavethequeen”?). can’t stand this blASSthole’s petty envy or shilling ways and always look forward to exposing his latent mediocrity when it comes to boxing analysis. boxing’s presumed “decline” is the only reason this blASSthole has managed to worm his way into the scene and pass off random thoughts and first drafts as legitimate “boxing articles”(?!) . . . and Happy Holidays to you! . . . :twisted:

Posted December 8, 2012 1:07 pm 

te tumbo

Welcome back Old Yank Scheider. good to see you’ve recovered from your apparent boxing hangover and are ready to risk additional nips from the dog that bit you. no matter what the reason for your notable absence, i was certain you would come crawling back to your bloody and brutal master like the boxing junkie we all are. although, i am concerned that so many “experts” whose previous boxing analyses have been as flawed as your last scorecard for the Marquez v. Pacquiao* bout are now picking Marquez to win(?). what is particularly offensive is citing Pacquiao’s* decline(?) for this prediction rather than a desire for justice to prevail over the promotional illusion of Punkuiao’s* “greatness”. bottomline, the only one whose in immediate danger of decline or absolute breakdown is the 39-yeaar-old Marquez. otherwise, Pacquiao* is the same single-fisted, one-dimensional, ring-dumb puncher he’s always been. it is swee and poetic justice that it will be a truly great and legendary fighter like Marquez that will finally rid my favorite sport of its most corrupting element. “Duro-Duro-Duro!” War Marquez . . . WAR . . . and Peace to the Old Yank.

Posted December 8, 2012 12:49 pm 

Old Yank

Queenie — Read the article again and you might catch the name of the fighter Pac fought. I admire Pacquiao greatly — I thought the admiration was fairly clear. Sorry you missed that too.

Posted December 8, 2012 12:35 pm 

Tomato Can

Actually It looked to me that Pacquiao fought Bradley very different. He didn’t fight for his normal 3 minutes a round. He fought maybe a minute and a half per round. I think Manny should have won the Bradley fight, but for whatever reason, that wasn’t the Pacquiao that I’ve been accustom to seeing. And at 147 Manny, looks less pumped/ripped than he has since moving past 135 pounds. In any case, I think we all know Manny will come to fight like the true warrior he is.

Posted December 8, 2012 12:29 pm 

Tomato Can

Pacquiao looks as though he’s just going through the motions at this point. Is he hungry? Probably not, but that’s to be expected. On the other hand the older Marquez is as hungry as ever to beat Pacquiao. He feels he’s never got his due in their fights. This could be the difference.

Posted December 8, 2012 12:25 pm 


The old Wank at it again!!! It’s funny you usr thr Bradley fight to show how Manny has supposedly slip. But that fight was way better than the Jmm 3 fight and Pac never lost to Bradley all real boxing supporters know that, hence why no one is mad about no rematch.
You are a hater no matter how you try to sugar coat it. It’s also funny how you remember when you first saw Pac but you make no mention of who he fought. There is a reason for that, you are and have never been a fan of pacquiao’s end of

Posted December 8, 2012 12:22 pm 

Tomato Can

Old Yank, you hit the nail in the head with this article. You can see the spark vacating the Pacquiao aura. Hopefully, he’ll put on a great performance, like he always does against Marquez. I think all the Marquez and Pacquiao fights could have gone either way, depending on which set of lenses you were looking through. That’s how close their fights have been. But now we’re approaching the end of a pretty good era, I’ll miss fighters like Pacquiao, and Marquez…

Posted December 8, 2012 12:21 pm 

It’s Me, Ernie

Overrated is one word. J/K, nice article, thanks…

Posted December 8, 2012 12:02 pm 


Pinoy, making an observation over Pac’s natural slippage can hardly be considered hate. The writer clearly referred to him as a winner and acknowledges his greatness.

Posted December 8, 2012 11:28 am 

Old Yank

Pinoy — Someone will win and someone will lose. I’ve been a Pacquiao fan for a long, long time. My eyes detect slippage. Just calling it like I see it. Perhaps you see Pacquiao winning until he’s 50. I don’t. All good things come to an end — Stine’s Law (and I paraphrase): “What cannot continue, won’t”.

Posted December 8, 2012 11:20 am 

Old Yank

Philll — Thank you!

Posted December 8, 2012 11:17 am 

Old Yank

Webster — The Editing was done by Stoli Stolichnaya — English is his second language. Sorry ’bout that!

Posted December 8, 2012 11:10 am 


Hmm. Look what this writer posted down below.

“Old Yank

“Pac is 147 because he’s SOFT! Pacquaio is no more a natural welterweight than I am a natural Chippendale’s dancer! Marquez is going to stop Pacquaio and prove what most veteran opbservers have seen over their 3 previous bouts — Marquez won them all.
Posted December 7, 2012”

Why the hate against Pac?

Posted December 8, 2012 11:08 am 


Old Yank, not seen you in an age. I enjoyed the read.

Posted December 8, 2012 11:06 am 

Old Yank

Thank you. I’ve not written on this site in an age, so we share a return. Much appreciated.

Posted December 8, 2012 10:00 am 

Fighting Words

Just read on Fightnews,BOb stated his expection a KO. Pacman is getting 25 million and JMM is getting 3 million..Hmmm there is something wrong with that picture. JMM bring a lot of fans to the fight, he should be getting at least 12 million if not more.

Posted December 8, 2012 9:58 am 

Old Yank

Thanks for the comments and thanks for catching the errors I’d normally catch via my careful editing. It was a late night and for reasons I can;t explain I felt a need to come out of retirement for this bout and write something. It was a tad hurried.

Posted December 8, 2012 8:57 am 


Sadly Old One you are looking through a glass darkly …..Pacq will take Marq again this time….All the whiners and wingers on here will retire to lick there wounds and look as vacant as you will….Then like a bad smell you all will arise to give your definition of how Pacq didn’t really win,then with no more ammunition but blanks tell the world it was a corrupt decision …Ah, but this time it will be different, because Marq will not hear the man count ten……….By the the way Old Yank I hope your boy is doing well….My regards to you both……

Posted December 8, 2012 8:42 am 


Maybe the drugs made him great?? no. funny how the form drops off after Mayweather asks for testing.

Posted December 8, 2012 8:29 am 


“Yep, a few spelling errors, nut nicely written.” …but…Lol.

Posted December 8, 2012 8:00 am 


Yep, a few spelling errors, nut nicely written. I agree Old Yank. One of Pacman’s most impressive attributes over the years has been his ability to sustain an incredible work rate, and high tempo pace, allowing him to overwhelm opponents. Unfortunately age has caught up with him and he clearly has stamina issues (by his standards anyway) these days. Personally, I hope and predict he’ll KO JMM within 5 rounds this time. An early victory like this over an old Marquez will cover up the cracks, but Manny is ripe for the taking now, and by fighters he would have comfortably outworked/beaten three or four years ago. Still, I hope he looks like the old Pacman tonight – one last time.

Posted December 8, 2012 7:57 am 

Hey, that’s my Bike!!!

I thought the spelling was Senchenko, Chavez Jr and Paquiao? Did you mean “peddles” or ‘petals’? At the end there, do you mean ‘scent’ rather than “sent”? I enjoyed this article to the point that you favour JMM yet you give fair reasoning without bias, or bashing of Paquiao. Other writers could learn from this objectivity. For the record I think JMM will win this one also.

Posted December 8, 2012 6:55 am 


Old Yank – I really liked this article. I’ve not commented on this site in an age but just wanted you to know that. Very sentimental and the right time to write it.

Posted December 8, 2012 6:51 am 

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