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So now Marquez is taking roids too?! haha I thought Pacquiao was the only one doing that! LOL Bunch of naive pacquiao “boxing fans”. I’ts all over kids. Your overrated and overprotected Pacquiao was just defeated (again) in a big way, by a 39 year old veteran, way past his prime, and way past his weight by the name of Juan Manuel Marquez. Pacquiao clearly lost fights 2 and 3, yet Arum’s judges gave the fights to Pacquiao, for reasons we all know. Great fighters fight and defeat other great fighters….Pacquiao has and will never do that. He has defeated a bunch of nobodies like Hatton, Diaz, Lucero, etc. and washed up fighters like DLH, Mosely, Cotto, Margarito, etc. What a joke! A prime DLH would’ve trashed Pacquiao in 4 rounds. It’s all over!

Posted December 13, 2012 3:23 am 


Testosterone levels in a 39 year old decrease, preventing the transformation from happening naturally. Want to see what Marquez looks like without the PEDS? Look at his fight with Mayweather. THAT’S natural. Just like Erik Morales as a Jr. Welter. That’s their natural build.

Posted December 12, 2012 12:51 am 


Freedy, as the old saying goes “It takes one (a steriod user) to know one (a steriod user) “

Posted December 11, 2012 2:34 pm 

Tumbos Asinine Ravings aka the sociopathic fat basement dwelling net troll in action

Floyd Mayweather is an obvious TRT user as well as a probable EPO and HGH user . He cycles on and off during his endless ” retirements” . His manager Al Hayman is a known dealer and two of Haymans fighters have already tested positive. Hauser alleges Floyd has tested positive before. Mayweather’s head has grown in size . Pacquiao is also an obvious ped user and now Marquez has decided to fight fire with fire and join the club .

Posted December 1, 2012 1:34 am 


Right…. Everyone looks different because everyone has different genetics and a different physical potential. Marquez has massive shoulders for his weight and intimidating abs. Pacquiao has massive calves which give him his spring an bounce. But Pacquiao is going to look exactly like he’s looked for the past 5 years and Marquez isn’t. JMM is going to strike awe in Pacquiao’s soul at the weighin.. “Wow. He’s big.”

Roach will wet his pants and says, “Look at THAT. That’s not NATURAL.. John, you’re a commissioner DO something.” John says “OK Freddie. How about a Kabuki dance???
I KNOW ALL THE FUNKIEST MOVES LA LA LA.. AND THE FUNKIEST GROOVES.” Freddie says, “John you’re not taking me seriously.”

Posted November 30, 2012 6:04 pm 

te tumbo

i lifted with the big yard-dogs at one time and we engaged in several discussions regarding 1) ex-lifters getting “fat”; 2) resuming lifting after a long spell; and 3) the results that a beginner gets from his first lifting cycle. the anecdotal results: 1) ex-lifters don’t get “fatter” per-se but their former muscle mass doesn’t disappear, which results in excess fat forming a soft shell over formerly solid muscle. i always advise youngsters to not start lifting heavy unless they plan to continue because the upkeep is a lifelong commitment. 2) “muscles have memory”, i.e., if a formerly dedicated lifter resumes lifting after a long spell off, his former muscles will pop to attention in 1/3 the time of a beginner. barring some catastrophic diet or starving spell, formerly-developed muscle is there to stay. 3) beginning lifters are virgin territory and EVERYthing they do triggers untapped muscle potential and a more notable contrast to their formerly non-muscular selves. this is Marquez who has now added a muscle-building component to what was formerly and primarily a conditioning regimen that emphasized stamina and durability. power or strength was little more than a natural by-product whereas building muscle and strength is now an intentional goal, which is bad news for Pacquiao*.

Posted November 30, 2012 5:18 pm 

Red Ryan

Sad to see, Roach is losing it…

Posted November 30, 2012 3:14 pm 

Kid Blast

Sorry for the typos, but Tumbo has me rattled.

Posted November 30, 2012 12:12 pm 

Kid Blast

Correct unless you have been eating a lot of crap during all of those years. That takes some time to get rid of. I was an avid weightlifter ubtil I was around 40. I went back to it last Decemebr and am now able to dead lift 200 pounds and bench press 150. I have higher goals. I also lost 70 pounds and feel great for a change. So yes, Tark, I agree with what you say. But in JMM’s case, he awalys has had a muscular frame and just seems to have exploded via recent photos. Just doesn’t appear natural, buy frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing about PEDs. Unes your name is Peterson, Tarver, Berto, Toney, Holyfield, Moraleas, etc, who cares? No one really seems interested in hard reform. Maybe serial retiree Suliman can do something. :twisted:

Posted November 30, 2012 12:10 pm 


If you never did weight training for 18 years—and then do 2 years of it—your body responds a lot better and faster because it’s not worn out from doing 15 million reps… You feel like a 6-year-kid on a new bicycle.

The guy who’s been doing weights for 20 years goes, “Shhheeeeeet.. I guess it’s time to hit those weights again” … He’s not seeing a whole lot of new gains so he’s not that excited.

Posted November 30, 2012 12:02 pm 

Kid Blast

Not bad :)

Posted November 30, 2012 11:59 am 

te tumbo

the only thing i’ll chalk up to you is a subsconscious disdain for all that is Mexican but that’s okay. being chronic underdogs is what makes Mexicans so great. i hope Mexicans never become media darlings lest they lose their menacing edge in a boxing ring . we don’t forgive. we don’t forget . . . expect us.

Posted November 30, 2012 11:52 am 

Kid Blast

Tumbo, you taking the pis- again? Hey Shorty, I see I forced you to defend your semi-erotic love :( for all that is Mexican. Chalk up one for the Kid. :)

Posted November 30, 2012 10:27 am 


You know the old saying Freddy : “IT TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE “

Posted November 30, 2012 9:49 am 


Marquez doesn’t have to know ME Haterdalgo. As long as his reading SKILLS are BETTER than YOURS then he’s GOOD. Just log in and read what I have to SAY and DO what I told you to DO. My eyesight is GREAT. And SO is MY foresight…..Take MY advice and you’ll reach your full potential…..Marquez took MY advice and now LOOK at the results. He made Pacquiao pray to GOD that the Judges would give him the decision and it worked.

Posted November 30, 2012 3:06 am 

te tumbo

Btw, not rejecting the obvious prowess of Mexican fighters has been a pretty safe bet lately (Mares and Guerrero). of course, Mayweather, Martinez, the Klitschkos, Mathysse, Broner, and #1 P4P Heir-Apparent Andre “SOG” Ward are pretty safe bets too . . . :twisted:

Posted November 29, 2012 11:19 pm 

te tumbo

“As for my scoring, if it’s good enough for Harold, [Old Yank Schneider], and the other judges, it’s good enough for me. We all had it the same” you are correct Fatso. You, Lederman, and Yank ALL had it the same (lol). now go back to dominating your inflatable clown punching bag and bragging about it . . . :twisted:

Posted November 29, 2012 11:15 pm 

Kid Blast

hecdog has the beat (again !)

Posted November 29, 2012 10:21 pm 

Kid Blast

Marquez’s strength and conditioning coach, Angel “Memo’’ Hernandez, formerly known as Angel Guillermo Heredia, whose checked past precedes him. Reportedly, he turned state’s evidence in one of the many cases resulting from the BALCO scandal and admitted providing PEDs to former track stars Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery. Hmmmmm

“I’ve never done this type of work before in 18 years,’’ said Marquez, “I’ve been working specifically to gain more strength. Angel is a professional. Of course, I’m getting stronger and faster. As far as the steroids…my tests always have been [negative].’‘ Give me a break, Juan. You look like Arnie!!

“[Marquez] has gotten bigger and gained weight,” says Roach. “It throws up a red flag. I’ve been accused so many times of my fighters being on steroids, I hate to accuse other people. But it is part of our life, part of the world we live in.’‘

Posted November 29, 2012 10:18 pm 

Kid Blast

Damm, Tark, you are being way too nice to our resident expert –TUMBO. Go after him. Calling Pac a one-dimensional fighter is simply a pretex for his continual hateful rants agaisnt anything that is non- Mexican. Now That’s ONE DIMENSIONAL!!! He let’s his subconcious bias get in the way of objective analysis to the point that he has lost credibility in his posts. For once, I’d like to see him praise a non-Mexican fighter other than Ward or Pavlik (?). Just once.

As for my scoring, if it’s good enough for Harold and the other judges, it’s good enough for me.We all had it the same. I’m plainly sick of hearing JMM whining and complaing. Just STFU, have some pi-s, and fight.

Posted November 29, 2012 10:12 pm 

Ray Ray

Marquez has put on less than 10 pounds, easily possible. Roach sounds like he is making up excuses b4 they’ve thrown a punch. Losing attitude. This is taking alot of attention away from the return 2 the ring of Gamboa, he’ll yeah

Posted November 29, 2012 8:04 pm 


Tumbo…., You’re making up opinions for me.. I was always huge on Pacquiao’s ability, and I never gave Freddy Roach a thread of credit for it… I pointed out before the Maidana fight years ago that Khan had no clinching skills, infighting skills, or inside defense because Roach CANNOT teach those skills.. I said it would be Khan in the early rounds and Maidana late — and I was right.. I picked Khan to win, but he did worse than I thought. Any other referee but Joe Cortez and Khan would have 3 KO losses by now.

Posted November 29, 2012 7:39 pm 


Sred says…. “Floyd could get up to 160 if he wanted to,” Ridiculously stupid nonsense… FMJ can’t even make 154.. He weighed into the ring at 148 and 149 for DLH and Cotto.

The majority of Floyd’s career fights were fought at 130—and he even tried to get a Super Fight with Nasim Hamed at featherweight because he said he could make 126.. He didn’t go to 135 until he was 25 years old.

Posted November 29, 2012 7:31 pm 


Maybe Freddie and Manny should have been more supportive of the introduction of proper randomized (blood) drug tests like Floyd and others wanted. It would be so ironic if a juiced Marquez KO’d Manny!

Posted November 29, 2012 7:00 pm 

te tumbo

suit yourself TARK. however, i vividly recall your swooning descriptions of Pacquiao’s* development into a great boxer-puncher with an emphasis on his amateurish footwork. conversely, i’ve never deviated from my belief that he remains the same single-fisted, one-dimensional puncher he’s ALways been. after all, consistency has always been my strong point. anyway, this fight-profile was only highlighted by Marquez’s boxing-punching domination of Pacquiao* in their last bout, Blassthole’s and Old Yank’s scorecards notwithstanding.

Posted November 29, 2012 7:00 pm 


Wolf, Great comment! lol

Posted November 29, 2012 6:07 pm 


Another guy pointing a finger?Berto/peterson 100% 2/2.Roach Vargas,toney 2/2 yup roach definitely has got something up.Marquez has demanded tests vs pac before as soon as he did TR declined & fight was off.So don’t point the finger at the guy that has accepted all tests & never declined one or made conditions like manny you hypocrite.Manny will always be suspect.

Posted November 29, 2012 5:52 pm 


“Floyd could get up to 160 if he wanted to,” REALLY, SRedmond? So, tell us again why Floyd shouldn’t fight Sergio Martinez? Something about Floyd having to go up two weight classes to fight him? But “Floyd could get up to 160 if he wanted to.” Yeah, we know that. That’s why so many boxing fans want to see a Mayweather/Martinez match.

Posted November 29, 2012 5:43 pm 


“After that Fight Marquez took MY advice…” LMAO! Marquez doesn’t even know you, Nobodydamus!

Posted November 29, 2012 5:39 pm 

Fight Aficionado

ESB ate my earlier post so I won’t rewrite it. Bottom line there’s boxers who failed the test like Berto, Peterson and Tarver. Go after them not veterans like Marquez unless you’ve got something more than speculation.

Posted November 29, 2012 5:19 pm 

Fight Aficionado


Posted November 29, 2012 5:17 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Marquez’s physique has changed dramatically since he lost to Floyd. He was flabby for that bout, ever since he’s been ripped. Did he grow into the higher weight or did he add something other than piss to his diet? Don’t know and am not inclined to speculate about fighters like Marquez when we’ve got guys like Berto, Peterson and Tarver who tested positive. They’re the ones who should get dragged through the coals.

Posted November 29, 2012 5:17 pm 


I’m actually toying with the idea of a Marquez stoppage or comprehensive win based on Manny trying to be super aggressive and Marquez realizing that there will NEVER be another chance to book a win over Pac…. Both men need to be gunning for a KO or absolute beatdown, fighting safe ain’t gonna cut it for JMM he is going to have to take risks or STFU forever.

Posted November 29, 2012 3:47 pm 


OH yeah by the way…Marquez by stoppage or PUNISHING SD.

Posted November 29, 2012 3:37 pm 


“marquez has bad genes for weight gain, look at the mayweather fight … he was fat and small, now all of a sudden he gets muscular and lean ? the dude is on roids”-Nope. Next time follow Boxing more closely. For the Mayweather Fight Marquez let Nacho Berenstein who has NO credentials as a Strength and Conditioning Coach, tell him what to DO to gain weight. Nacho made him eat a bunch of eggs and throw rocks….After that Fight Marquez took MY advice and got himself a Professional Strength and Conditioning Coach and that’s why he looks like he does NOW…..Just as Pacquiao had a Pro Strength and Conditioning Coach to help him gain weight. And just as Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. did TOO.

Posted November 29, 2012 3:09 pm 


Controversy sells SO Roach is just trying to build some controversy UP before the Fight. IF he thinks that Marquez is ON something illegal then why doesn’t he pull his guy out of the Fight???? OH the money is too GREAT huh??? Well if you’re more concerned with the monetary reward then the FAIRNESS of the Fight then just take the monetary reward and STFU.

Posted November 29, 2012 2:54 pm 


How do we know that Marquez speed or ability to take a punch has improved? These are VERY subjective criteria… He avoided the BIG shot and he did that by muting his own output and confining himself to almost exclusively counterpunching… Marquez was not there to slug with Pac Man and the way he fought down the stretch is one of the reasons he lost… He did not want to risk a trip to the canvas and relied too much on precision and the judges instead of letting his hands go and dealing with the risk…. JMM knows Manny and he fought not to get hit… I watched the 1st, 2nd and 3rd fights this week and in the 1st and 2nd he took MORE risks and initiated more….If we are going to deduce he is up to something because he did not go down, then how do we account for him going down LESS the second fight? One flash KD, same as he went thru with Mayweather and Katsidis??? Why the urge to smear the GREAT Marquez??

Posted November 29, 2012 2:49 pm 


seen alot of guys get big and cut without peds but their strength and speed doesn’t improve that much nor their ability to take a punch……haven’t seen any fighters really benefit from peds except Holyfield and Mosely……don’t really know if Pac was on them

Posted November 29, 2012 2:34 pm 

Kid Blast


Posted November 29, 2012 2:22 pm 


While this is all well known information about him, that in and of itself makes the idea that one of his high profile charge would abuse less likely due to the obvious scrutiny based on his dubious past…If Marquez was going to cheat, why would he used a guy who would NOT fly under the radar…It simply does NOT make sense…I think alot of guys are turning on Marquez because he simply has not gone away and the possibility that even at 39 he might decisively beat Pacquiao… Meanwhile we have 36 rounds to show that Pac Man is not a “better boxer” than Marquez even though his athletic gifts allow him (Manny to maintain an edge power, speed)…..

Posted November 29, 2012 1:56 pm 

Kid Blast

Marquez’s strength and conditioning coach, Angel “Memo’’ Hernandez, formerly known as Angel Guillermo Heredia, whose checked past precedes him. Reportedly, he turned state’s evidence in one of the many cases resulting from the BALCO scandal and admitted providing PEDs to former track stars Marion Jones and Tim Montgomery. Hmmmmm.

Posted November 29, 2012 1:33 pm 


Marquez spent MOST of his career trying to be 130 pounds or less, that is going to sacrifice muscle mass.. NOW he is bulking up I have personally gained plenty of weight in my life naturally and otherwise, it became easier for me to put on muscle after 34 than before because my body used to fight to be leaner…Is it possible that Marquez did something? of course but why is that the default scenario when his gains can EASILY be attributed to an actual strength training regimen…. Floyd could get up to 160 if he wanted to, its a matter of taking in more than you burn coupled with effective strength training… We just saw Guerrero come from the lower weights to manhandle a STRONG WW… Reality is that ALOT of these guys are not carrying normal body mass in an effort to squeeze down… Hopkins RAN year round to make MW all those years…

Posted November 29, 2012 1:23 pm 

Kid Blast

The writer says, in part: “:….and he lost his last fight.”” Huh? He did? I had him beating Bradley like an merchant beats a rug.

Fact is, TM can’t draw flies.

Posted November 29, 2012 1:15 pm 

Kid Blast

Hecdog, I like your style.

Posted November 29, 2012 1:11 pm 

Kid Blast

Tark, glad ro see you are getting battered by Tumbo :twisted: instead of me, but I’ve got you in my pocket. Roach has slipped terribly in recent fights. The main man these days is Garcia with Hunter and Nacho not far behind. Tumbo makes false assumptions and then runs with them as if they were factcual. It’s a nasty habit he has. Fact is, JMM looks like he has been training to be in a body building event in Mexico City. And one’s own pi-s does not do that.

Anyone can pass a test these days according to Hauser’s warmed over puke (ugh) so the argument that JMM is using may have some traction.

Posted November 29, 2012 1:09 pm 


Marquez was giving Manny HELL from 126 to 144 thats why we are having a 4th fight… Face facts Marquez is a GREAT fighter and Pac Man has been unable to subdue his craft… I owe Marquez last performance more to him avoiding taking the big shot than I do him putting on weight… Being stronger helps but if Pac could lay out Cotto he could layout Marquez if he got JMM with the big one…. But alas Marquez knows how to fight and he was basically in counterpunch mode the ENTIRE fight last time….This time he is gonna have to push the fight to a greater extent to win… You clowns NOW say everyone who moves up in weight is on something and everyone who drops down is “drained”…. Honestly I think ALOT of you creeps like excuses MORE than boxing…

Posted November 29, 2012 12:30 pm 


Devastator, it’s interesting that an inarticulate buffoon such as yourself is an expert on genetics… Marquez never even had a strength coach for most of his career he was a student of Nacho’s antiquated yet effective training methods… Sports medicine has advanced ALOT since Marquez first laced up professionally and he realized to compete at welter he needed more than slurping urine, running, sparring and skipping rope… At the end of the day we are discussing a SMALL man who will weigh maybe 150 pounds…If that is some sort of massive accomplishment in your book, you must be slight of frame like those trannys in Thailand….

Posted November 29, 2012 12:25 pm 


SREDMOND , u dumb as f&ck, marquez has bad genes for weight gain, look at the mayweather fight … he was fat and small, now all of a sudden he gets muscular and lean ? the dude is on roids

Posted November 29, 2012 12:02 pm 


Roach is a TOP coach the fact that his fighters are not defensive geniuses is simply the reality of boxing… How many guys ARE actually absolute masters of hit and don’t get hit?? I don’t care WHAT trainer you put with Chavez JR he is NEVER going to be a master of defense, its just not in his DNA…Reality is that there is a CLEAR upper limit to most guys abilities and the career Pac Man has had is both historic and monumentally successful… Khan got clipped because he wants to fight like Pac at times but does NOT have Pac’s ability to take a shot…. A trainer can only do so much despite the hype….

Posted November 29, 2012 12:01 pm 


Tumbo….. That’s not true… You never heard me say a lot that was positive about Roach’s coaching abilities. He’s been blessed with guys who have world beatng talent, and he could soon be 0-5 in his last five starts with them … Particularly, I’ve never given Roach any credit for improvements in Pacquiao’s game. Manny did the best in his first Marquez fight in the opening round, then somehow lost a 4-point lead with Roach’s pleas to finish JMM off … Marquez has been gaining ground on him every fight since, and now Roach is in a panic. I was always high on Pacquiao, but not Roach. Just like I was always high on Floyd, but not particularly his “best in the world coach” Roger.

Posted November 29, 2012 11:53 am 

Keith Williams

Talk about hypocrisy. Mannie’s muscle growth is the poster evidence of PEDs use. Freddie is making the same arguments many made about Mannie, and which he got mad over. More than anything now I believe that Manny is on PEDS. Freddie Roach’s comments are preemtive defenses to take the scrutiny off of his fighter.

Posted November 29, 2012 11:35 am 

te tumbo

TARK says, “People are going to say Roach can’t teach clinching.. can’t teach defense.. can’t dissect the action well enough to make critical strategic adjustments..” those people (including YOU) will be years behind the curve established by fight-fans like myself who’ve been saying just that about Roach for Yeeears while “experts” like Tark have been praising Pacquiao* for his improved(?) boxing skills all along. it’s the difference between glaring reality and fanboy swooning or “expert” shilling.

Posted November 29, 2012 11:30 am 


Roach really dropped the ball with this commentary given all the scrutiny his fighter has been under… The idea that ELITE athletes who spend all day everyday and have access to the BEST coaches and nutrition cannot add muscle naturally is just DUMB…Besides alot of these guys, Marquez, Pacquiao and others have artificially depressed their bodyweight and muscle mass for YEARS in an effort to make weight… Roach is just trying to stir the pot, I seriously doubt Marquez would play dirty with a suspect strength coach, as well as Top Rank putting the kibosh on random testing…

Posted November 29, 2012 11:18 am 


Lets put it this way past allegations have become true. Shane Mosley, Vargas, Holyfield and other names. Bernard Hopkins is one of them. Roach should be suspious. Marquez at 39 to grow that kind of muscle is suspious.

Posted November 29, 2012 10:19 am 

The Kingslayer

lol Roach starting with the mind games.

Posted November 29, 2012 9:54 am 

St. George

Berto got hammered without ped’s tho, its not like Guerrero battered him eventhough he was juiced up, now that would’ve been something!

Posted November 29, 2012 9:21 am 

Kid Blast

Tark has the beat

Posted November 29, 2012 9:11 am 

Ray Ray

Wow can’t believe what I’m reading from peoples comments. Does manny wana take tests now? People I’n glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Freddie should worry about getting his own corner ready, don’t worry what JMM is up 2

Posted November 29, 2012 8:01 am 


LOL! SO Mayweather is scared that Paquiao is doing steroids and now roach is scared Marquez is. Meanwhile Berto got caught for cheating and gets hammered by Guerro.

Posted November 29, 2012 7:54 am 


hecdog- Roach should be looking in before he looks out I think that’s what most people would agree on.

Posted November 29, 2012 4:22 am 


if im confident.i won the last 3 fights against an opponents who has no skills, i will not take PEDS to power up my boxing just afraid i will lose again…so i hire a trainer who knows how to enhance my power…who he is? its your guess…
no confident…only manny pacquiao inject fear in all his opponents.better muscle up.prepare hard.or maybe FEDs up.

Posted November 29, 2012 2:51 am 


manny pacquiao started to muscle when he was thrown into the giants, but it took him years to built that muscle when he is still young n capable of.JMM thinks he can be stronger by muscled up his physiques.coz manny just walk on through his punches while throwing combos at him and never knocked out.he didnt realize manny’s power n speed is natural.its not from his muscle and the accusation of PEDS that knocks giants.he already had no. of knockouts since he started his didnt built muscle in 3 months with your 40 years old body that fast tru natural ways.its not natural.

Posted November 29, 2012 2:38 am 

The Best!

meant” you’re “

Posted November 29, 2012 2:08 am 

The Best!

Roach please stop while your ahead ,your making yourself look like a complete moron.

Posted November 29, 2012 2:05 am 


it’s some great irony in this!

Posted November 29, 2012 1:55 am 

Jack Dempsey

Roach likes to dish it out by doesn’t like to take it ..Roach likes to talk about other trainers or managers even about other fighters .but when some one says something about him he goes on a rampage ..

Posted November 29, 2012 1:48 am 


Why did Marques look flabby and way out of his weight class when he fought Mayweather at 147lbs but now he’s muscle bound?

Posted November 29, 2012 1:42 am 


Yeah Freddie should know how to spot it.

Posted November 29, 2012 12:44 am 


Marquez should sue for defamation of character!

Posted November 29, 2012 12:34 am 

It’s Me, Ernie

Excellent strategy Freddie.

Posted November 28, 2012 11:41 pm 


Roach is just strategizing, he want to get on Marquez head, to make him mad and try to knock out Manny.

Posted November 28, 2012 10:40 pm 


Obviously… it didn’t work…

Posted November 28, 2012 10:38 pm 


Let’s see if this works…
Are we still italic???

Posted November 28, 2012 10:38 pm 


Muscle growth, no muscle, ped’s, no ped’s, whatever; Juan won’t lose this time…the momentum is in his favor & he won’t be denied.

Posted November 28, 2012 10:32 pm 

Oscar De Ballerina

Ok why even mouth of when you dont have concrete evidence

Posted November 28, 2012 10:24 pm 

Guerrero Is Wannabe MMA Figther

Pacquiao doesn’t look like Bruce Lee. Don’t insult Mr Lee. Manny looks like a midget Hulk with the size of his PED head.

Posted November 28, 2012 10:18 pm 

Guerrero Is Wannabe MMA Figther

The whole camp has gone full Pactard. Never go full Pactard.

Posted November 28, 2012 10:17 pm 


Just WOW, Roach has guided and watched grow Pacquiao and walk through how many weights? knocking around solid welterweights like rag dolls and is outraged when Mayweather questions Pacquiao and makes an issue about testing. the right or wrongs of Mayweathers comments about Manny are not important it’s the hypocrisy of Roach that is sickening. Roach will have tarnished Marquez’ reputation with some people and he has done exactly what Floyd did with Pacquiao and is constantly abused for his accusations, i just hope Roach gets the same abuse.

Posted November 28, 2012 10:15 pm 


LMAO, my last comment is awaiting moderation, I guess because I didnt use the politically correct word urine. WOW, what if I had said someting really bad? Amazing

Posted November 28, 2012 9:30 pm 


Already adding controversy and the fight hasn’t even happened yet. If there is one thing Roach is good its talking way too much

Posted November 28, 2012 9:29 pm 


Maybe Roach is forgetting that JMM drinks his own piss. Maybe Roach should include that in Pacs diet, lol! I love Pac, also JMM as well. I may even be pulling for the ole man Marquez I think.

Posted November 28, 2012 9:28 pm 


Marquez’s muscle grown isn’t what has given Pac hell. I think Roach would hope that added weight along with Marquez’s age will slow him down.

Posted November 28, 2012 9:10 pm 


Roach probably forgot how Ariza managed to build 10 pounds of pure muscle on Manny Pacquiao in only 5 months for his fight against De la Hoya. Marquez tried to do the same and failed misserably when he faced Mayweather, his weight was all water and fat, while Pacquiao always looks like a modern bruce lee…

Posted November 28, 2012 9:02 pm 


Sounds like he’s speaking from experience. Most of readers here have probably heard the rumors of pacquaio’s use

Posted November 28, 2012 8:57 pm 

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