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I know what you mean, te tumbo. Honestly, there might not even be much that a ref can do with these guys. It’s just the nature of the fight. Neither Rios or Alvarado is going anywhere lightly. I mean, what’s a ref going to do if a fighter continues to respond with punches and appears lucid? They have to let them fight. These guys have too much heart. Not only that but they’re both very hard punchers. It’s just a perfect match up for pure barbaric fighting. And of course not of the untrained kind. We’re talking about crisp, tight, short punches and heavy inside fighting. This is the kind of fight we dream of. You hope that the fighters are safe but what else can you do? This is what fighting is about. This is why boxing is superior to MMA. I doubt this type of conversation has ever been had about an MMA fight.

Posted August 9, 2012 8:18 pm 


Te Tumbo- You’re probably right, but if either of this 2 guys (and especially Ríos, who less than a year ago was being touted by Arum as his heir to Manny) want to make a long career out of this, they need to keep the emotions under wraps and stick to a game plan. I think Ríos will be all wrong for Avarado even coming up in weight. I just don’t think you can beat Rios by trying to outgun him. But those wars do accumulate…

Posted August 9, 2012 6:52 pm 

The Mad Scientist

Ward and Gatti weren’t top guys in their weight class when they fought, just two popular fighters who were equally matched..Morales/Barrera, Castillo/Corrales, Marquez/Vasquez is a good example of the two best guys in their weight class going at it..Rios/Alvarado is a fight between two top young undefeated up and comers..

Posted August 9, 2012 6:35 pm 

te tumbo

MINIMO, i think that when the punches start landing and blood starts flowing, both of these guys will abandon any pretense of boxing and default to Socking and only Socking his opponent down. it’s a calculated gamble for Alvarado who as the “bigger” fighter will be tempted to bully the “smaller” Rios and it’s just natural instinct for Rios who won’t allow a scoring punch to go unanswered. he looked pretty inept (drained? unmotivated?) v. Abril but he’ll have no excuses v. a guy like Alvarado who i’ve only watched rely on his fists not footwork to defeat his opponents. i’d be surprised if this fight doesn’t live up to the hype regardless of how brief or long it lasts.

Posted August 9, 2012 4:25 pm 

te tumbo

ANONYMOUS, Ward and Taylor are examples of what i’m concerned about. in fact, Smoger being selected to ref this fight would really test the loyalty of some fight-fans but perhaps only in retrospect. otherwise, this fight-fan Loved watching those fights in real-time and in replay and i’m anticipating another brutal classic between Rios and Alvarado. “Let’s Get It On!”. it’s matchups like these that make me sentimental for a ref like Mills Lane who always seemed to manage a balance between skills and brutality in a matchup.

Posted August 9, 2012 4:17 pm 

philly shell

could be the fight of the year! Ward-Gatti style, I hope.

Posted August 9, 2012 2:30 pm 


Te Tumbo- Agree that Ríos biggest problem the last couple of fights has been getting drained to make 135. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a guy look so skeletal on weight day as Rios the last 2 fights. I think Rios has more tools than Alvarado and should win this fight, but he better go back to bobbing and weaving his way in like he used to and not walk his way through shots like has has lately.

Posted August 9, 2012 9:09 am 

M. Mendoza

Alvarado can carry the edge on this one but only if he manages to keep Rios at bay after the 6th round. This one has the looks of going the full 12 rounds with no time for blinking or sneezing.

Posted August 9, 2012 12:28 am 


Oh come on man. Rios is going to lose out because of the grit factor? Grit is Rios’s game.

Posted August 8, 2012 10:51 pm 


I have no idea who will win this, could see it going either way. Maybe Rios will look better than he did last time out since he won’t have to drop as much weight, and the style matchup pits two skilled brawlers with great chins against each other. This is can’t miss action that figures to be fight of the year caliber. Can’t wait to watch it and I’m looking forward to this fight more than the ‘main’ event that night.

Posted August 8, 2012 10:22 pm 


Alvarado will likely stop Rios. Alvarado is the more skilled fighter with a bigger punch. Rios typically wins wars of attrition, but not against this guy. Not only will he be out matched in the intellect and physicality, but he’s also going to lose because of the “grit factor.”

Posted August 8, 2012 9:55 pm 

The Mad Scientist

Lots of good post..looks like everyone here is anticipating this fight..I have to admit Im also concern for the well being of these two young men who’ll be letting the putasos fly for the entertainment of us fight fans..I wish them both the best but I got Rios by late round stoppage..let’s get it on!

Posted August 8, 2012 9:43 pm 


Not to mention Meldrick Taylor only had 25 fights before he was changed forever during his fight with Chavez. Even though he was winning the fight, Taylor suffered more damage. He was definitely never the same after that fight, and we all know how he’s like now with his speech heavily slurred.

Posted August 8, 2012 8:28 pm 


ESB limits how long sub comments can go on? There’s no option to reply on your last comment, le tumbo. Anyway, I couldn’t agree more. It’s funny though because we’re talking about how it’s almost inhumane just the fact that these two guys are fighting in the first place. That shows a lot about how great these guys are. I think the fight is a nice little gift for us real boxing fans. I think that the referee needs to really be on point in this fight. And both corners should have the best cutman they can get. Regardless, this is a very serious fight and could very well result in some permanent damage, even if its not visible right away. After Gatti-Ward, Ward had permanent double vision. Even after having surgery to correct it, he claims that the double vision never went away when he looked up.

Posted August 8, 2012 8:24 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Could well be the fight of the year considering their styles and willingness to rumble. Alvarado is game as hell and if Rios doesn’t carry his punch up to 140 he’s in trouble. The Rios I saw demolish dudes two years ago hasn’t been around in quite some time but if he starts getting pounded by Alvarado he’s going to fight it out. Abril coldn’t hurt him so the punches didn’t wake him up, even though he got outboxed. If I had to bet I’d say Rios finds his swagger again and wins.

Posted August 8, 2012 8:18 pm 

te tumbo

Yep. of course, i’m still committed to watching the bout but i’m not heartless and i’m somewhat torn between anticipation and concern for the long-term health of these two young fighters. IMO, Rios is already a bit incoherent in the speech department and Alvarado has already absorbed some serious punishment. i’m still a hardcore fight-fan who still believe in the Sport of Boxing but this matchup promises to stretch the envelope in terms of humane treatment of athletes. the cold reality is that these are two young kids preparing to Sock each other senseless for money. it’s gonna be violent and brutal.

Posted August 8, 2012 7:54 pm 


I agree with everything you said 100% bro. What I meant was I think Rios slightly edges him out in having more heart. That’s just my opinion. I totally agree about what you say about how the fight seems scary. I said it before that It’s an eerie feeling knowing what they’re in for.

Posted August 8, 2012 7:16 pm 

te tumbo

Alvarado displayed the same commitment to brutal violence v. Prescott and the just as tough Herrera. i think they’re even on that count, which kind of makes this matchup a little scary. i predict that both fighters will be leaving a vital piece of themselves in that ring on October 13.

Posted August 8, 2012 7:08 pm 


Exactly, I wouldn’t put money on it but I got Rios to win. He needs to be himself in the ring. If Alvarado wants to fight, then Rios is going to give him just that. There is not a single bone of quit in Rios’ body.

Posted August 8, 2012 7:01 pm 


Nothing will be easy about this fight. If you think that then you don’t know Rios.

Posted August 8, 2012 6:20 pm 


Rios has more heart though IMO. When it starts getting brutal and violent, what do you think will happen? You think Rios is going to answer with even more violence. That’s how he is. That’s what he’s made out of. That’s why this fight will be so great. It’s going to be a savage fight man.

Posted August 8, 2012 6:19 pm 


i have to say that i see Alvarado stopping rios. Alvarado is the bigger banger in this fight and i’ve watch both of these guys coming up and Alvarado is the much better fighter.

Posted August 8, 2012 6:17 pm 

The Best!

It upsets me that someone with Rios’s talent has to be weak and drained just because he chooses to be. The guy has a lot of potential, I much rather see him fight at a strong 147 and see his full potential than ask what if. What would he of become if he fought at 147 instead of draining him self physically and mentally just to make weight at 135 or 140? At 147 i am 100% convinced he would take out Alvarado, however at 140 I still think he will beat Alvarado but i honestly would not put any money on it. We will have to wait and see how strong he looks at 140 come fight night.

Posted August 8, 2012 6:17 pm 


Lets hope Rios can make 140! Alavarado with an easy stoppage here.

Posted August 8, 2012 5:31 pm 

te tumbo

i’ve preferred to believe that Rios’ recently underwhelming performances have been due to trying to make 135lbs, which he didn’t for his last two bouts (Gamboa missed a golden opportunity to exploit the vulnerable Rios). i anticipate that a reinvigorated Rios will be his old Bam-Bamming self at 140lbs. nonetheless, i’ve gotta give the edge to Alvarado whose demonstrated his ability to exchange punches and damage v. some tough and rugged competition. including Prescott who had never been down before but was dropped and ultimately TKO’d by a bloody Alvarado. at-Least as impressive as Rios’ performance v. Antillon. anyway, i’m expecting an explosive collision between two fighters who only know how to move forward.

Posted August 8, 2012 4:14 pm 


How can Bam Bam be past his best? He hasn’t even fought elite competition yet! Well, Abril might be a lot better that people think, but otherwise Ríos is just now starting to step up to the big leagues. In any case, it might be that Rios is not the future superstar many thought he was going to be, not that he’s losing a step.

Posted August 8, 2012 3:54 pm 

terror tim

Alvarado can outbox Rios. As long as he doesn’t come in doing stupid stuff like last time. He needs a new corner. This fight will be a great one but I think Alvarado [which of course I am very bias here being from Denver and seeing him fight here a few times] can take this one. He has more power and his chin is pretty good as well. Rios won’t be able to just eat Alvarado’s shots and walk through them all night.

Posted August 8, 2012 3:33 pm 

The Mad Scientist

I think Brandon Rios will stop Mike Alvarado in the later rounds do to cuts and swelling..I just don’t see Alvarado out fighting Bam on the inside in wich most of the fight will take place at..

Posted August 8, 2012 3:12 pm 

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