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Your post below Tark. Before the Cotto v Martinez fight….

Posted August 12, 2014 3:49 pm 

Just so you know

I see right hooks and straight lefts by Martinez working, and Cotto’s jab working well. But I also see Martinez’s jab working and eventually see him mastering the tricky angles and delivery on Cotto’s jab.

Pavlik is the only guy I saw jab Martinez and Kelly had a mile of reach on him. By the middle rounds Martinez adjusted to the reach and height disparity. He took over with his speed and power.

This fight rides on Martinez’s physical condition. How much speed will Martinez produce? He’s 39 years old, but I don’t believe that’s a big deal. Age is a number. It’s the condition of your body that counts — and how hard you can drive it in training camp. Sergio needs to be able to force a destructive pace like he did in his earlier title fights.

I believe he just had a super bad night against Martin Murray, who I had beating him 115-111… I expect the real Sergio Martinez to be back for this fight — and fight better than he has for his last couple of fights.

Posted August 12, 2014 3:48 pm 


Just so you know, “And no one gave Cotto much chance against Martinez until he won then suddenly Martinez is a shell.”

Martinez was an aging wreck with no knees… He was shell in his previously 2 fights — but at age 39 he was finally a hollowed out shell.

Obviously SM would love to make more big paydays… Sorry Sergio… everybody’s story ends at some point — no matter how long you hang on by your fingernails.

Posted August 11, 2014 6:56 pm 


cottos just not that good dude got smoked by trout. end of story son

Posted August 10, 2014 8:00 pm 

Just so you know

Bears, I’d don’t really care how long you’ve been posting on ESB it doesn’t give you any more right to an opinion than anyone else. Especially when you’re talking utter nonsense.

Posted August 10, 2014 3:56 pm 


too bad the real lionkiomg is not here

Posted August 10, 2014 12:22 pm 


Bradley’s best wins are 40 yr old JMM, Provodnikov ( who just got smoked by a kickboxer), Alexander, 40 yr old Casamayor, Witter. Everyone knows he lost to Pac both times except some fool who wants to part with his cash to Rob Arum and crew.

Posted August 10, 2014 11:00 am 

Squared Circle ( AKA Lionking)

posting crap for a decade is hardly something to be proud off

Posted August 10, 2014 10:41 am 


dude ive been posting for almost a decade

Posted August 10, 2014 8:20 am 

Just so you know

Bears, a technical decision over Alexander and a decision over Pacquiao that no one believes he deserved? That leaves Marquez as by far his best win. You’re dreaming if you think Bradley’s career stands up to Cotto’s. As for being ‘established on ESB’ is that your get out whenever someone disagrees with you? Unless you’ve been posting for years you can’t debate with Bears? Wise up.

Posted August 10, 2014 5:02 am 


mosely did a balco juice ped cycle fought oscar then fought cotto.


Posted August 10, 2014 3:09 am 


“noone gave cotto much chance against martinez”

bullsh!t dude!!! we all discussed murray beating martinez and the motif of the discussion leading up to martinez vs cotto was if martinez broken body would hold up. it was my main point and concern so much that i didnt even make a forecast on the bout cause i thought martinez breaking body was too big of a factor.

we all discussed it at length and that murray got robbed. i dont know where the phuk u were son.u aint even established on east side your not known

Posted August 10, 2014 3:00 am 


bradley did not get brutalzied by pac like cotto did and stopped. bradley did not get ko’ed vs jmm like pac did. moselys quality is debateable

Posted August 10, 2014 12:29 am 


alexander, jmm, and he was credited with a pacman win.


Posted August 10, 2014 12:26 am 

Just so you know

What’s Bradley’s best win? Against 40 year old Marquez. Cotto beat Mosley when he still had something. Better version of Mosley than Mayweather or Pacquiao fought. And no one gave Cotto much chance against Martinez until he won then suddenly Martinez is a shell.

Posted August 9, 2014 10:58 pm 

Just so you know

Pacquiao dropped Marquez 3 times in one round and still scraped a draw. But that’s not what we’re talking about.

Posted August 9, 2014 10:53 pm 


canelo isnone of my favorite fighters but u have to look at how he entered that fight, his condition. leonard ellerbe even described what would happen in all access. are we all wrong? no were not

whats cottos most impressive win? murray victim broken martinez? 3 separate eye surgery and no tune up out for a year or more margarito?

Posted August 9, 2014 10:53 pm 


jmm style was does matchup well with pacman and its awesome that pacman tests himself like that against jmm and bradley. i feel bradley did smoke jmm in the boxgame BAD. that the results were conclusive.

jmm with riza and his bacne and 4 fights later landed one shot while it looked like he was gonna stopped. i mean pac has dumped jmm 3 times in one fight. thats enough to end it. pac has dumped jmm a lot. i like jmm but he is in no way greater than the fighter of the decade.

pac vs jmm is an example of a good style matchup. but pax the better fighter and anyone will say as much besides te tumbo

Posted August 9, 2014 10:50 pm 

Just so you know

Wow. You are putting Bradley above Cotto and Canelo. Almost speechless.

Posted August 9, 2014 10:49 pm 


bradley would be a much bigger challenge. canelo was not himself he was boiled down to 152 and he cant even make 154. lol. yeah a bradley would oose a much bigger risk than lethargic stamina-less canelo. and yes i think bigger risk than cotto style wise.

Posted August 9, 2014 10:44 pm 

Just so you know

As for Bradley ‘smoking’ Marquez sorry that’s what Marquez did to Pacquiao not Bradley to Marquez son.

Posted August 9, 2014 10:43 pm 

Just so you know

Is he worlds better than Cotto and Canelo? Son. Or Maidana? Because I’m certain if Provodnikov came within taking a knee of beating him Maidana would.

Posted August 9, 2014 10:41 pm 


bradley smoked jmm. bradley is worlds better than ortiz guerrero and kahn son. i should not even have to say that.

Posted August 9, 2014 10:36 pm 

Just so you know

So Bradley is an ATG???? Bradley barely made it out of the Provodnikov fight. Who apart from Pacquiao do you think he should be fighting?

Posted August 9, 2014 10:34 pm 


he fought bradley twice. i would be happy with fraud fighting bradley once. but fraud fights maidana (who beat him) ortiz and guerrero with kahn next up. its just a fraud

Posted August 9, 2014 10:26 pm 

Just so you know

Bears, what ATGs has Pacquiao been fighting? It’s a long time since the Barrera days and the De La Hoya win is null due to the fight being at a weight he hadn’t made in 10 years.

Posted August 9, 2014 8:28 pm 


@ Sredmond.., So Floyd fought some great opponents in the past — but is allowed to DUCK Pacquiao and others today???

His request that Pacquiao do randomized testing seemed reasonable — even if he doesn’t run Boxing, and can’t issue edicts from an ivory tower. He’s allowed to negotiate contractual stipulations in a super important fight. I gave hime space on that. I believed he would fight Pac.

I gave Floyd the benefit of the doubt because I wanted to believe in him. He was the best candidate for GOAT ever — if he actually showed some guts to match his skills, he could be unbelievable.

However—like 50 Cents—there comes a time when you realize the cover stories are being fabricated… When the man comes up with new lines of BS every time — there comes a time when you just know he’s full of sht — and is just protecting his precious “O”

Posted August 9, 2014 1:53 pm 


who was really great or not disadvantaged in that list! little jmm? boiled down canelo?

the versions of oscar and mosely! Lol!!!!

corrales!?!? u think the dude is all time great like u think baldomir is? LOL

What about the guys he said he would fight but never intended to like pacman and serg martinez? what about tszyu and paul williams? what about lara porter etc etc!!!

nope, ortiz guerrero kahn and maidana. lol are people really pretending their are not a PLETHORA of better fights for floyd to fight?

Posted August 9, 2014 12:47 pm 


now fraud fights the great ortizs, guerreros, maidanas, and kahns of the world

post retired oscar past it mosely did u seriously just say baldomir? LOL @ u!!!!!!

who the phuk lists baldomir as an accomplishment?

Posted August 9, 2014 12:42 pm 


Son, you are deluded. You couldn’t fight your way out of a wet paper bag, you GLB. We all seen your weak ass on YouTube and we’re still laughing at you. Go get a toupee cause you balding fast and whilst you at it go lose yourself some weight you fat, out of shape, biscuit eating, donut guzzling, coke drinking, binge eating between meals and binge drinking even whilst you at the unemployment line, fake benefit claiming fraudulent fat ass wanker.

Posted August 9, 2014 7:30 am 


Tark is at it again!!!!!!!
His list of fighters to hate on has just grown longer.
Roy Jones Jnr

BUT, Tark lavishes praise on Porter, Brook, Lara, Trout and La Bamba as master boxers!!!!!!!!

You couldn’t make it up, even if you tried!

Posted August 9, 2014 7:24 am 


Kovalev vs Hopkins is getting made isn’t it???

The fighters themselves can make any damned fight they want… The promoters have no choice but to go with them… If you don’t kow that you’re a rank IDIOT.

You don’t dictate anything if you’re the promoter… You’re not fighting anybody.

Posted August 9, 2014 2:58 am 


Thanks Bears… Those posts are for the benefit of Floydiots who may be out there — wishing Floyd would finally fight somebody good.

But Sredmond is unteachable.. He may be the dumbest human on the planet.. I have pets who are smarter.

Posted August 9, 2014 2:18 am 


first class posting by TARK right there!


Posted August 9, 2014 1:02 am 


Sredmond says.., “Mayweather had faced Castillo 2x, Hernandez, Corrales, ODH and others by the time he was 32? who has GGG faced? a banged up Macklin and Daniel Geale… SNOREEEEEEEEEEE!!!”

Snore nothing.., Nobody sleeps at a GGG figtht.. He’s DYNAMITE!!! Geale was a world class fighter, going against a master.

Floyd NEVER fought a master. How good a boxer was Jose Luis Castillo? NOT

Oscar De La Hoya led with his face… Ask Pacquiao how easy he was to hit.

Corrales was a walk-in punching bag… Castillo-Corrales was a massacre

Hernandez was not a superb boxer… Stop joking around.

Floyd said the best boxer he fought was Cotto… Cotto was easily out-boxed by Trout.

If Floyd had to face a prime Napoles.. Forrest.. Leonard.. or Robinson, he would be tested.. Up until Porter, Pacquiao, Thurman, and Brook arrived – there’s been NOBODY like that for Floyd to fight.

Floyd ducked every ATG he was supposed to fight except Cotto. Floyd did well against Cotto—who had suffered 2 BAD KO losses prior—but Porter, Thurman, and Brook are fresher and deadlier welterweights. Floyd won’t fight them… just like he refused to fight Pacquiao.

Posted August 8, 2014 7:43 pm 


Sredmond says.., “If Nard was 44 I would not give Kovalev more than 4 rounds.”

LMFAO!!! It won’t even GO 4 rounds.. How many rounds did you figure Lomachenko was going to win against Gary Russell??? — who you said was gonna dust Loma.

How many rounds did you figure Lucas Matthysse was going to win against Lamont PEDerson??? Who you predicted would outbox and beat Matthysse.

I guess you didn’t see Hopkins lose twice to the wide open, China-chinned Jermain Taylor — when Nard was only 40… much less 44.

Taylor won at least 4 rounds of each of those Hopkins fights, and was never in any danger of hitting the deck or getting knocked out.. His face wasn’t puffy from Hopkins weak blows — and exactly HOW MANY KO’s has Hopkins scored since he fought Jermain Taylor???

Plus, whenever Jermain met anybody who could punch — he got hammered out.

Posted August 8, 2014 6:15 pm 

Fight Aficionado

One of the best fights that can be made in boxing got done. No ducking, no finger pointing, the rumble is on. Only at ESB does the year’s most positive announcement for the sport we love result in the same old arguments. You’d think for once we could all just celebrate together. Anyhow as you were…

Posted August 8, 2014 5:21 pm 


That is, if Hop does not find an excuse to drop the fight, like he already did, as he realizes the danger. A fight to look for, at last.

Posted August 8, 2014 3:04 pm 


Kovalev-Hopkins is one of the most intriguing fight of the year. Cannot wait for this one. I don’t think Hop ever fought such an aggressive and powerful fighter, and Kova is going to be real tested with a ring legend (personality apart). Hop has never been really hurt in the ring and the old man is still on the top of his game. Kova is (literally) a killer, and the epitome of the fighter. Plus a complete, underestimated boxer. Can you imagine Hop flattened on his back by Kova? A real possibility here.

Posted August 8, 2014 3:03 pm 


Bears, I am putting Kovalev in perspective he is getting the opportunity to face a 50 year old version of Bernard Hopkins if Nard was 44 I would not give Kovalev more than 4 rounds… That said I give Kova a 60% chance of winning because the OLD man can be outworked but that is NOT much considering that Kova is 32 and Nard is gonna be 50 in like 10 minutes…If Kovalev loses by chance then he is gonna get RAKED over the coals and cruelly denounced.. You cannot have these CRAZY accolades coming from dik riders like you then lose to a 50 year old… Pressure is on Sergey!

Posted August 8, 2014 12:11 pm 


““I totally agree with boxtradomas,”-Agreeing with the FACTS shows WISDOM. You’re a WISE man FEARS.”

Said one idiot to another.

Posted August 8, 2014 11:22 am 


I will take Bears by BRUTAL stoppage inside 3 rounds on SRedmond. I look forward to seeing Peej as a ring card girl. I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!

Posted August 8, 2014 10:53 am 


Anonymous – is that wishful thinking ?

Posted August 8, 2014 9:21 am 


I bet most of these posters are 25 year old virgins.

Posted August 8, 2014 3:02 am 


PEEJ = owned…

Posted August 7, 2014 11:09 pm 


PEEJ.., “Tark, Roy was not ducking Tarver for years. Heck Tarver had his chance. All he had to do was beat someone and he would of had the next fight with Roy.”

Tarver destroyed Eric Harding in 5 rounds—which was 10 times as impressive as what Roy Jones did—and STILL couldn’t get a fight with Roy. Jones ran forever until Tarver showed up at Roy’s media conference and embarrassed him.

Taver beat the crap out of Roy in their 1st fight… Tarver was unmarked… Roy was battered all over his face.

That was one of the worst robberies of all time.. Roy admitted Taver won the 1st fight but said he was weight drained.. Roy said he would put Tarver on the ropes in the rematch and knock him out.. As you KNOW, Roy got hammered out in 2 rounds.

You’re making excuses, saying Tarver beat an old Roy Jones.. Tarver is OLDER than Roy. He won their trilogy.. There’s no more excuses, Tarver was just the better fighter.

Posted August 7, 2014 10:39 pm 


sh!t it would go viral i would break sredmond like drago did apollo or chung lee did frank duex buddy in blood sport

Posted August 7, 2014 9:14 pm 


I belive we can get 8, maybe even 11 or 12 views with this bout.

If there’s any dollar stores that want to sponsor this event contact me.

Posted August 7, 2014 6:35 pm 


Im calling for a Sredmen vs bears elimination bout.

Tark is the official ref.

Im a judge.

Peej is a ring card girl.

YouTube that baby winner gets a package of hotdogs and wilders next opponent.

Posted August 7, 2014 6:31 pm 


your posts are boring redmond and 90-95% of your posts is regurgitating. i must admit, i am bored with u.

it was funny to seenu smack talk kovalev and talk up nard only to take kovalev by some percentage when u deride other posters for discussing possible outcomes of each fighter winning and why you give us a percentage of each fighter winning at 60/40.


by your own standards u dont need to give percentages just pick a winner sh!t for brains

Posted August 7, 2014 5:28 pm 


Dre, I don’t play tough as you see below I propose Bears demise due to his own POOR health as opposed to anything else… HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted August 7, 2014 4:43 pm 


SREDMOND, get a life dude, you have no idea how stupid you look playing the tuff internet warrior, you bozo. What a dumb@ss, it’s almost unreal.

Posted August 7, 2014 4:32 pm 


Bears, Ward has fought in front of more people in his hometown than Kovalev who is really an undercard fighter at this point…If he gets embarrassed by old Hopkins it will be bad for “The Krusher” he is a strong, powerful and perhaps he will go on to have a stellar career but as of today he has got ALOT to prove starting with beating up this 50 year old man…

Posted August 7, 2014 4:31 pm 


C’mon Bears we saw that putrid video you did about the Lewis fight on youtube it was clear your skin is jaundiced and you are old beyond your years likely due to whatever chronic disease is killing you..I would simply let you keel over from the anxiety of facing a man and not sitting behind a keyboard… Your poor condition would release me from the burden of having to move a muscle in order to watch you hit the floor… HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted August 7, 2014 4:27 pm 


Bears, the REASON YOU think that in Canada where Pascal has fans and Adonis has fans that Kova would do better is because you are a Hillbilly and utter moron… Hopkins fought Pascal in Canada and Hops is FAR more well known the Kovalev…Hops fought there because Pascal was able to draw, Bute and Pascal drew fans… Adonis and Pascal are hometown boys and would exceed Kovalev by plenty… I would like to see them fight if both keep winning but I understand business unlike a commoner like you who thinks these guys should just square off in the parking lot of a strip mall for your beer swilling, bow and arrow shooting, fishing and hunting azz…

Posted August 7, 2014 4:21 pm 


Bears, NO Kovalev did NOT have “millions of views” you fool.. GGG’s last ratings were DOWN… And the arena with paying customers was SMALL… Kovalev cannot draw at this point and it is what it is… Stevenson is 36 an looking for a $$$$$$ fight only makes sense for this former pimp..

Posted August 7, 2014 4:17 pm 


dude! no boxing fan is confused on adonis vagina being so big it got his promoters a$$ dragged in court.

there is not a single boxing fan that gives a sh!t how many millions if dollars fraud may makes. money a boxer gets is irrelevant to a boxing fan. were into fighting not money

i would like to see if adonis vs a canadian will make more in canada than adonis vs kovalev in canada or whatever market will bring the most fans. i actually think kovalev vs adonis will make more money than adonis vs pascal and i think kovalev has a larger following than ward son

Posted August 7, 2014 1:32 pm 


Tark, Roy was not ducking Tarver for years. Heck Tarver had his chance. All he had to do was beat someone and he would of had the next fight with Roy. Instead he got his jaw broke and he lost. Roy then went on to beat the other guy. Tarver is no great fighter. He will not be in the HOF. His whole career is based of beating an old slowed down Jones. Yeah it was a big win but that was his only big win. Yes his line was a great line before the 2nd fight. Doesn’t change the fact he lost the 1st fight.

Posted August 7, 2014 10:12 am 


And yeah he looks damn near ruined, anybody who fights Hopkins twice never looks the same. Look at Taylor.

Posted August 7, 2014 10:09 am 


Bears Dawson yes he won. I am not arguing that. But all this he beat him up and has his number is ridiculous. He out worked him. Didn’t land anything meaningful against him. That is not having someones number.

Posted August 7, 2014 10:09 am 


I am the kryptonite to the people that I debate with. No one can out knowledge, outwit or out do me. One day you will all see my greatness but by then I will be even greater as I am way above your heads.

Posted August 7, 2014 8:42 am 


kovalev will smoke nard and adonis and this chump says dirrel will beat kovalev!!!!!

thehnnthis chump said the best style in boxing is the counter puncher

then this chump was officially branded VACANT IN THE HEAD


Posted August 7, 2014 2:36 am 


Dirrell has the wide shots with MUCH SNAP on them. That’s the shot that Kovalev is susceptible to. Has to be FAST though. Dirrell has that. Sometimes your GREATEST Strength is your GREATEST weakness. Kovalev throws SO many shots that he can’t protect his chin. He’s betting on being able to keep you SO much on the Defensive that he has nothing to worry about. An elusive guy that can strike like a Snake is his Kryptonite. GREAT Counter punchers defeat the even the BEST Offensive Fighters. Gene Tunney agrees with ME on that.

Posted August 6, 2014 11:22 pm 


“Because Dirrell couldn’t hurt the unskilled tin man, wood chopper, tinker toy, pinocchio that was Froch “-Well then you either didn’t SEE the Fight or your definition of hurt is different from MINE. No matter WHAT your definition of hurt IS the FACT is that Dirrell landed a counter on Froch and made him LOSE his equilibrium. And this was a Fight that Dirrell fought with Jet LAG. The FOOL only showed UP 3 days before the Fight. You need NO LESS than a WEEK unless you travel internationally pretty frequently. Nevertheless Dirrell beat him Jet LAG or not. BLIND mice cannot change MY opinion.

Posted August 6, 2014 11:18 pm 


“I totally agree with boxtradomas,”-Agreeing with the FACTS shows WISDOM. You’re a WISE man FEARS.

Posted August 6, 2014 11:14 pm 


“your phukin man child idiot boxtra seriously a phukin idiot and no, nobody agrees with a word u say. NOBODY SON.

u have hands down the dumbest phukin posts i have ever seen”-Well you’d better go enroll in some SEEING courses. MY posts are straight to the FACT. GREAT Counter Punchers are at the Top of the Food chain in Boxing. That means they can pretty much eat ANYONE UP. Greb, Dempsey, Tyson, and Pacquiao all agree with ME on that. Donaire agrees with ME TOO.

Posted August 6, 2014 11:13 pm 

Crystal Ball

Hahahaha look at the desperate attempts of no-knowledge PEEJ. He is trying to convince everyone that Kovalev is not currently the best LHW or a champion. This wigger is such a hater of epic proportions he is delusional and even contradicts his own arguments, as seen below:

Kovalev is not the real champ. He may be the best in the division but that has yet to be proven. If he beats Hopkins then yes I would say he is the best in the division. If he SQUEAKS BY HOPKINS then no he would NOT BE THE BEST. But do I consider STEVENSON THE BEST, NO.
Posted August 6, 2014 3:13 pm

According to this BS statement even if Kovalev beats Hopkins, but only just, he still isn’t the best. Yet neither is Stevenson. Yet it couldn’t be Hopkins because Kovalev has beaten him in this statement. So who is the best, you dimwitted fairy?

Posted August 6, 2014 9:57 pm 


but yeah cotto will probably 3g as adonis seems to have no intention of fighting kovalev until he fights every canadian he can find. some of the most asinine sh!t is permitted in boxing. the current multi sanctioning body and promoter system is garbage. ufc is way better. u cant duck and dodge there. too bad pro boxing is not the same

Posted August 6, 2014 9:33 pm 


i dont think cotto will ever face 3g and if he does it will be after he fights fraud may again pac again and canelo. MARK MY WORDS

Posted August 6, 2014 7:58 pm 


Cotto will probably fight GGG before Stevenson gets into a ring with Kovalev.

Posted August 6, 2014 7:23 pm 


i remember when tarver said that they had the mic on him right before the fight when the ref said any questions and they put the mic to tarver!!! that was awesome i will never forget that. its my main association with tarver

Posted August 6, 2014 7:20 pm 


Adonis Stevenson is another chickenshlt ducker like Roy Jones Jr.

Posted August 6, 2014 7:19 pm 


“he just outworked him and that is “NOTHING””””””-peej

seriously dude? “thats all”. the guy CLEARLY bested nard. DEFEATED NARD. then he beat nard at his own dirty game broke his body. it was dawsons career highlight and i loved every minute of it. why you are trying to minimize and call nards defeat nothing is beyond me?! is it because you love the guy so much? and thats why u claim joe cal lost the fight to him? its getting ridiculous peej you are loosing all objectivity here with weak child like general minimizations like “that was nothing”.

i would normally attack the hell outta that but i told u i would lay off ya and treat you normally. but man that post is FUBAR son and reveals the lengths u will go for nard hop and it makes you look bad just cause its so baseless. “thats nothing”

what it was, was pure defining who was who b/w nard and dawson and dawson simply has nards number.

dawson nowadays? who the hell knows he looks damn near ruined. i have always liked dawson myself. i wish him well.

Posted August 6, 2014 7:17 pm 


PEEJ.., “Now I know why you think Tarver is great.”

Roy Jones ducked Tarver for years… Roy made a ton of excuses for his very poor showing in their 1st fight, which begged a rematch.

Roy didn’t have many excuses after Tarver flattened his ass in the rematch

Antonio Tarver.., “You gonna have any excuses tonight Roy?”

Posted August 6, 2014 7:15 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Stevenson, who ducked Kovalev under the guise of unifying against Bhop, refused to enter negotiations with Bhop’s camp last week. So Bhop signed to fight Kovalev and Stevenson is now fighting the always dangerous TBA in September. Showtime sure knows how to throw money away on garbage.

Posted August 6, 2014 6:30 pm 


So how does Dawson or Taylor have Hopkins number? Dawson out worked him and that is it. Not like he put a hurting on him or anything. He just out worked him. That is nothing. And Taylor should of lost both of those fights so not sure how he has his number either. And Taylor was never the same after those fights with Hopkins. I am not saying Kovalev isn’t going to be number 1 or isn’t going to be the best. But he would need to beat Hopkins to say he is the best in my opinion and also beat Stevenson to claim the championship.

Posted August 6, 2014 5:25 pm 


nard hops def not the best light heavy. dawson and froch victim taylor have his number. adonis is DUMPED by fonfara and running so bad his promoters end up in court then he couldnt even get a nard hop fight which was the initial EXCUSE for RUNNING.

as i said below kovalev is clearly number one at light heavy and if u dont dee it now because its not onvious to u like the rest of us thats ok, u will. you are just behind the curve

just like 3g is CLEARLY the best at 160. some people just cant come to terms with it. the real reason for this i dont know

Posted August 6, 2014 5:06 pm 



Posted August 6, 2014 3:52 pm 


Well according to Tark that win pushed him over the edge at being the best fighter at 175

Posted August 6, 2014 3:46 pm 


cleverly was C level at best.

Posted August 6, 2014 3:44 pm 


Oh I didn’t realize Cleverly was the best. Who did Cleverly beat to be the best at light heavy? So crushing fighters that aren’t that great is enough to make you the best. Didn’t realize that. Now I know why you think Tarver is great.

Posted August 6, 2014 3:37 pm 


Kovalev has proven he’s the best… by crushing the undefeated Cleverly in Wales — and by crushing everyone who’s been willing to contest him for the title.

No 175-pounder dominates so many undefeated and highly ranked guys like that.

Just by simple observation he’s separated himself from the pack. Kovalev has so many weapons, and Hopkins has so many losses —

I just don’t see any way this is will be close.

Posted August 6, 2014 3:26 pm 


Kovalev is not the real champ. He may be the best in the division but that has yet to be proven. If he beats Hopkins then yes I would say he is the best in the division. If he squeaks by Hopkins then no he would not be the best. But do I consider Stevenson the best, no.

Posted August 6, 2014 3:13 pm 


Stevenson is the lineal champ… But the lineal champ is very often NOT the best fighter in his division.

Patterson was the lineal champ for much of the 1950’s… and that was only because he was able to duck Sonny Liston for years.

Same thing with Stevenson… He’s ducking the real champ, who would murder him if they fought.

Posted August 6, 2014 3:10 pm 


Box.., “How does someone WINNING by ROBBERY equal the guy who got ROBBED getting KILLED.”

Because Dirrell couldn’t hurt the unskilled tin man, wood chopper, tinker toy, pinocchio that was Froch — and lost in the opinion of the official judges. The victory by Froch was loudly cheered by the fans.

And since getting knocked out by Arthur Abraham, Dirrell ducked a Ward fight — and hasn’t done diddly squat in many many years … and that’s for starters.

Posted August 6, 2014 3:05 pm 


That is not bias. That is truth. Stevenson is the Lineal Champion. I have said being the champ doesn’t make you the best in the division. But saying Kovalev is the best with the opponents he has beaten is not completely accurate. If he turns out the be the best then that is what he is. We will find out when he fights Hopkins because I think Hopkins easily schools Stevenson. And a fight between Stevenson and Kovalev would be nice to. If Stevenson doesn’t KO Kovalev then I would take Kovalev. I think Stevenson has a punchers chance against Kovalev and thats it. That is not bias it is the truth. Stevenson is the Champion.

Posted August 6, 2014 2:59 pm 


“I totally agree with boxtradomas, Andre Dirrell could really give Kovalev problems.”

Once upon a time yes. Today however, Dirrell is wallowing around in the gutters fighting bums. He’ll never meet up with Kovalev.

Posted August 6, 2014 2:59 pm 

Fight Aficionado

“kovalevs the CLEAR best light heavy and adonis is a running vagina” – Cosign. PEEJ calling Stevenson the ‘real’ champ reveals his bias. He only has the linear title because he happened to beat a Dawson who got KTFO by Ward. He’s running for his life and Kovalev is the boss at 175 until proven otherwise.

Posted August 6, 2014 2:50 pm 


kovalevs the CLEAR best light heavy and adonis is a running vagina

Posted August 6, 2014 2:09 pm 


Andre you obviously have no knowledge of this great sport called boxing.

Posted August 6, 2014 2:05 pm 

Jim Rich

Well we may actually see bernard the alien hopkins knocked out, should be entertaining to watch. That is if hopkins don’t wrestle and pul Kovalev to the ground and cry foul saying he broke his arm or sprained his ankle. I look for hopkins to find someway out of this fight, saying he was fouled or some other nonsense. Probably going to be a really dirty fight.

Posted August 6, 2014 1:14 pm 


Stevenson is the epitome of the p#ssy. Assaults women, get insulted on tv not one but twice by Kovalev, does not even dare to mention his name and runs to another network to avoid him in the ring. P#ssy. Only lowlifes, lonely girls like like PEE(J) who are desperate for any man’ love can cheer for this piece of sh#t, like Kova put it.

Posted August 6, 2014 1:10 pm 


AA knocked Dirrell out — or at least he pretended he was out cold.

That sneaky chin shot seems to have cost AD about 6 years and 25MM

Posted August 6, 2014 1:07 pm 


I totally agree with boxtradomas, Andre Dirrell could really give Kovalev problems. he doesn’t get the credit that he deserves but he made Froch and Abraham look foolish! He also showed his power when he knocked Abraham off his feet.

Posted August 6, 2014 11:31 am 


No the rest of the fighters holding titles are called titlest. Can’t have multiple champions.

Posted August 6, 2014 11:02 am 


“A guy that would be some trouble for Kovalev is Andre Dirrell.”

Andre Dirrell is old news.

Posted August 6, 2014 10:38 am 


“The champion is Stevenson”

No, the LINEAL champion is Stevenson. All the rest of the fighters holding belts are also champions.

Posted August 6, 2014 10:36 am 


hibdeebibdee every title belt says champion on it. Whether it be an interim champ or a city belt. That does not make him the champ. The champion is Stevenson.

Posted August 6, 2014 10:24 am 


Kovalev by RUSSIAN LIVING IN FLORIDA brutal stoppage!

Posted August 6, 2014 8:38 am 


I’d put you down fast sheriff and be into your ring before you could say ‘oink’.

Posted August 6, 2014 8:13 am 

The Sheriff

If Andre Dirrell showed himself in Louisiana I would personally arrest him for impersonating a boxer.

If he got in the ring with Kovalev, he would be down faster than Paris Hiltons panties.

Posted August 6, 2014 2:53 am 

Fight Aficionado

“A guy that would be some trouble for Kovalev is Andre Dirrell. He is very FAST on his FEET and he’s one of the most WICKED Counter Punchers in Boxing.” – You mean one of the fastest runners in boxing. That would be a horrible matchup that Kovalev would win by KO or by 120-108. Obv. Andre Dirrell is a gutless runner, everyone recognizes that by now except you.

Posted August 6, 2014 2:17 am 


” the best coutsr puncher beats the boxer greb and pac agree with me on that”

your phukin man child idiot boxtra seriously a phukin idiot and no, nobody agrees with a word u say. NOBODY SON.

u have hands down the dumbest phukin posts i have ever seen

Posted August 6, 2014 12:34 am 


How does someone WINNING by ROBBERY equal the guy who got ROBBED getting KILLED. Go take some LOGIC courses. Froch couldn’t even land TWO GOOD shots the entire bout. He landed ONE GOOD shot. Dirrell had only 19 Fights or SO at the time and still beat Froch in his own backyard while he was still a NEOPHYTE or TADPOLE. IF he has his man Power now he’s a FULL Grown SHARK. He has the ability to defeat Kovalev. He has the perfect style to defeat him. And he has the SKILLS TOO.

Posted August 5, 2014 11:31 pm 


If a slower than slow Tin Man like Carl Froch, a guy who even inept George Groves was able to hit with a booming shot, can beat Dirrell on the scorecards — then Kovalev would kill him.

The closer Dirrell came to a Ward fight — the more ailments and illnesses he came down with… The opposition he’s faced in the last few years sucks to the quasars. This game is very mental — and that’s where Andre is sadly lacking.

Posted August 5, 2014 10:12 pm 


A guy that would be some trouble for Kovalev is Andre Dirrell. He is very FAST on his FEET and he’s one of the most WICKED Counter Punchers in Boxing. The History of Boxing teaches US that even the MOST Offensive Boxers on this planet can be beaten by a GREAT Counter puncher. The BEST Counter puncher will defeat the BEST Offensive Fighter most of the time. Harry Greb agrees with ME on that and Manny Pacquiao agrees with ME TOO. IF Kovalev faces Dirrell he’s facing an elusive guy who can counter with some Power on it. A lot of SPEED as well. That’s a GOOD Fight. I’d give it to Kovalev because I question Dirrell’s stamina and sharpness right now. But IF he could bring his A+ game he could stop Kovalev.

Posted August 5, 2014 10:03 pm 



my forecast: nard gets KRUSHED and sends the alien to mars!!!! forever know as the guy who sent the alien back to mars!!! love it!!

fight afficionado- i hear that man! kovalevs a fight fAns kind of fighter NO DOUBT! and he has FAN BASE!! probably larger than wards!!!

Posted August 5, 2014 6:44 pm 


hibdeebibdee Kovalev is a paper champion.

Posted August 5, 2014 6:16 pm 


“He is a beltholder NOT lineal champ”

Kovalev is the WBO light heavyweight champion, SRedmond. His belt does not say “beltholder” or “titleholder.” It says, “World Champion.” And that’s what he is and that is what he is recognized as within the boxing world.

Posted August 5, 2014 5:55 pm 


“Kovalev wants the fight so he is willing to take less.” Very likely true. Even moreso, Kovalev is taking the fight because he really wants to fight Hopkins, so he’s more than happy to take significantly less just to get in the ring with him.

Posted August 5, 2014 5:51 pm 

The Sheriff

What is with this SREDMOND punk trying to tell us the sky is yellow. We can look out the window. Kovalev has fans you soft pony.

I would cuff you to the backend of a horse and then feed it chilli boy.

Posted August 5, 2014 5:09 pm 

Fight Aficionado

HBO had 1 million viewers for a glorified tuneup. Kovalev’s got fans dude, we’ll see that against Hopkins.

Posted August 5, 2014 4:35 pm 


Kovalev just fought in front of something like 1600 people I believe I read… He has NO following and the chance to fight a get Hopkins name on his resume is worth more than the pennies he will garner elsewhere… He is a beltholder NOT lineal champ… Stevenson has a solid following in Canada he can fight Pascal and make some solid $$$$$$… Kovalev has a shot to get on the map because Caparello is not gonna do it…

Posted August 5, 2014 4:29 pm 


Well to get the big paydays you want some times you have to concede some things. In this case Hopkins is the A side of the fight. Kovalev wants the fight so he is willing to take less. Some fighters aren’t willing to do that. Floyd had to do it when he fought Oscar though there was much more money in that fight than there is in this one. But many fighters had to do that. If he beats Hopkins chances are he will split or get more money than Stevenson if they fight.

Posted August 5, 2014 4:09 pm 

Fight Aficionado

BEARS, what that means is Kovalev is willing to give up money to make big fights. He cares about legacy and rising up more than the short term cash. It also suggests he views the risk/reward as worth it. In contrast Stevenson is risk averse because he’s a loser.

Posted August 5, 2014 4:07 pm 


can u believe the concessions kovalev is willing to make just to get this cats a$$ in the ring? i saw he let nard get 2/3s the purse. how do u not love kovalev!!???? what a dude

Posted August 5, 2014 3:53 pm 


Well I have 2 theories on that. One of them is yes he is ducking. The other is maybe he thought he deserved more money than Hopkins. If the fight was in Canada I would agree. Anywhere else then I would maybe have to disagree. I believe it was reported that Hopkins was getting two thirds of the purse in the Kovalev fight. He said in the interview that he would of chosen Stevenson if they would of matched or beat the offer. And they did neither.

Posted August 5, 2014 3:09 pm 

Fight Aficionado

BTW what’s not getting ink in the wake of Kovalev-Bhop is Stevenson’s blatant ducking. He claims he bailed to Showtime for a unification fight with Bhop but reportedly stalled negotiations with Bhop this week so obv he ducked not only Kovalev but Bhop. Clown’s ducking any and every threat to his worthless belts and is now irrelevant. Poetic justice.

Posted August 5, 2014 3:06 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Actually now that Bhop and Kovalev have both signed I’ve got nothing but complimentary statements for both. There were claims of ducking from both sides of the debate but this proves both are real live men.

Posted August 5, 2014 3:01 pm 


Yes I did say for negotiating purposes. I may have not said it on every post but I certainly said it. So what if Hopkins never said his name. He also never had a title at the time. So why would Hopkins say his name when he was going after the other titlest? And on top of it all now Hopkins has signed to fight Kovalev. So now what? What else do you have to say about it?

Posted August 5, 2014 2:53 pm 

Fight Aficionado

“Never once did I say he was ducking him. He was Hopkins mandatory and instead of fighting him he fought someone else for a title. I didn’t see anything wrong with that. I figured he was doing that for negotiating purposes.” – PEEJ never once did you say Kovalev did that for negotiating purposes. But you repeatedly said he took the easy shot against Cleverly instead of Bhop. Which ignores the fact Bhop never once mentioned Kovalev’s name until hours before his WBO title shot was announced. Kovalev wasn’t going to wait for Bhop to maybe or maybe not duck his mandatory.

Posted August 5, 2014 2:41 pm 


Bears what I said was he was Hopkins mandatory. I also understood it completely. He was Hopkins mandatory, they said Hopkins was delaying or something at the negotiating table and they took it as he didn’t want to fight and didn’t want to remain out of the ring for to long. But here is the thing about being the mandatory. He could of went to the sanctioning body and told them he wants to enforce his mandatory status and then it would of went to purse bid. They didn’t do that. And I said if Hopkins then decided to drop the belt after the purse bid then we could say he was ducking. But that did not happen. Kovalev took the easier rout to a title. Nothing wrong with that. And now look, they will be fighting. And from what was reported, Hopkins is getting two thirds of the purse.

Posted August 5, 2014 1:12 pm 

pactards r us


Posted August 5, 2014 1:03 pm 


Fight Aficionado I never said he was ducking Hopkins. I merely said he took an easier rout the a title belt. Never once did I say he was ducking him. He was Hopkins mandatory and instead of fighting him he fought someone else for a title. I didn’t see anything wrong with that. I figured he was doing that for negotiating purposes.

Posted August 5, 2014 12:02 pm 


I find it funny how people are already coming up with excuses before this fight has ever happened. Only way for Hopkins to win is break the rules or saying if Hopkins does win then Kovalev was all hype. Makes me laugh. I think Kovalev can KO Hopkins. That is the only way he wins. If it goes 12 Hopkins then will get the nod.

Posted August 5, 2014 12:01 pm 


“Oh well. At least I know I can count on mephaggot (mephisto) to luck my bung hole and make everything all better.”

That goes for you too happy fag.

Posted August 5, 2014 11:47 am 


IF kovalev can not beat this 50 year sack of sh#t,he to will join the long list of Hype Jobs.

Posted August 5, 2014 11:40 am 


Tark, the fact that you think Kovalev is a better boxer than Hopkins is really truly CRAZY…. Do you REALLY think that Kovalev is gonna enjoy a better career than the Executioner? Hops was taking young boys to school at 44 and 46, Kovalev is fighting largely BUMS and C listers GTFOH…

Posted August 5, 2014 11:03 am 


Brains over bronze…lmao boxtra is the greatest personal speaker/ prophet of all time

Posted August 5, 2014 10:13 am 


Lol these amateurs saying Kovalev by KO.. keep in mind B-Hop is pretty slick and savvy when opposite good competition. If we’re to face another slick then he’d have another long night like against Dawson. He(Bernard) has a title for a reason and it’s not from fighting bums..Sergey. .but we’ll see

Posted August 5, 2014 9:44 am 


Wow.. “Brains over bronze!” Yep, a moron.

Posted August 5, 2014 7:36 am 

The Sheriff

The Sheriff has no beef with hibeddbebdbebdbebdb.

When you admit you were wrong, you just admit you are smarter now than you were 5 minutes ago. That is a good thing, because smart people accept new fact.

Posted August 5, 2014 6:25 am 


Hogan…you cost me money. I had the Undertaker.

You were on PEDS

Posted August 5, 2014 6:23 am 


I bet Kovalev will knock Bhop out! The russian is in his prime.

Posted August 5, 2014 5:59 am 

O B 1


Power is his only clear cut advantage over Bhop.Youth isn’t really an advantage over Bhop especially since he keeps himself in great shape.Every other supposed advantage you say he has over Bhop in minimal and will be nullified by Bhops Great boxing IQ.

Skills pays the bills TARK not Brut strength.


Posted August 5, 2014 3:17 am 


O B 1 claims.., “Hopkins will school this kid.The Russian heavy bag has no clear advantages over Bhop besides his POWER.”

Kovalev is no kid and in his 30’s… He has 215 amateur fights and 26 pro fights… He comes out of a stellar amateur program that leaves ours in the dust.

For clear advantages besides POWER … How about youth… speed… boxing ability… strategic thinking… jab… physical strength… physical toughness… attacking ability… straight right… left hook… combination punching… body attack???

That’s a dozen clear advantages besides punching power.

Posted August 5, 2014 2:28 am 


Kovalev’s knockout victory secured a highly anticipated light heavyweight championship unification fight against Bernard Hopkins. Kovalev (25-0-1, 23 KOs) and Hopkins (55-6-2, 32 KOs, 2 NC) have agreed to terms on a deal that’ll pay the legendary Hopkins two-thirds of the available purse money –

Hopkins gets two-thirds of the available purse money…………………………

Posted August 5, 2014 2:12 am 


Hibdee/Hildago – You’re an error, just deal with it.

Posted August 5, 2014 1:31 am 


Lick. …

Posted August 4, 2014 11:42 pm 


Tony Duva’s lawsuit also included GBP. I didn’t say anything about Stevenson being with GBP. In any case I thought I remembered more about this issue than I did.

Oh well. At least I know I can count on mephaggot (mephisto) to luck my bung hole and make everything all better.

Posted August 4, 2014 11:41 pm 


“Excuse me, I was in error.”……no excuse is needed, we know you are a moron.”

Thank you MEPHAGGOT.

Posted August 4, 2014 11:36 pm 


It took a woman to stand up to Al Haymon….
Finally someone said no to the Devil which is Al Haymon….
It’s going to cost B Hop a good old FASION A S S kicking but oh well…..

Posted August 4, 2014 11:29 pm 

Fight Aficionado

PEEJ you were claiming Kovalev was ducking Hopkins. Let me guess, now that the fight’s made Bhop’s an old man right?

Posted August 4, 2014 11:24 pm 

O B 1

Hopkins will school this kid.The Russian heavy bag has no clear advantages over Bhop besides his POWER.I expect Bhop to once again to shock the world with his Boxing skills.When it comes to BOXING geniuses in the ring,Bhop is surely mentioned with the likes of May weather,Ali and Leonard.

Bhop over Ivan Drago by UD.

Posted August 4, 2014 10:34 pm 


Boone sent Ward to the canvas early in his career. He was not the fighter he is mow

Posted August 4, 2014 10:22 pm 


Once again Crystal Btich has my name in his mouth. Still need to step your knowledge up though kid

Posted August 4, 2014 10:21 pm 


Kovalev with the best quote so far.

“He says he is alien. He punch, I punch, then we see who is gonna go to Mars.”

Posted August 4, 2014 10:09 pm 


Just heard an interview with Darnell Boone who sent Andre Ward, Stevenson and Kovalev to the canvas, that he believes that Kovalev would destroy both Ward and Stevenson. He stated, having been in the ring with all three, that Kovalev hits harder than Stevenson. He said that he woud be Stevenson because he is more precise with his power and actually knows how to box :). Ward could not handle his power…. I think he would know better than any of us…. well, we will have to see what happens after Kovalev gives Hopkins his first KO….. very interesting!!

Posted August 4, 2014 9:52 pm 

brza da originator

Was hoping that scumbag haymon would be dragged thru the courts
. But I will have to settle for Nard serving his sociopathic ass . Educate urself on this leach fellow boxing lovers Haymon operates on the darkside

Posted August 4, 2014 9:15 pm 

Crystal Ball

They had as much of a case as PEEJ has any idea about boxing. NONE!! However it still got one of the 2 belt holders to face the real kingpin at LHW. So mission accomplished. After Krusher puts Hopkins into a deep sleep he can completely unify making a corpse out of the champion dodger Stevenson.

Posted August 4, 2014 9:08 pm 


They finally smartened UP and took MY advice. There is no reason to file a lawsuit. That makes it more difficult to make a match with that team in the future. Pacquiao agrees with ME on that……All you have to DO is simply follow him over to Showtime. Showtime is a business TOO and IF they have YOU and Stevenson on the same network they are going to force Stevenson to face you or take the BOOT. He already knew HBO would give him the BOOT IF he didn’t Fight you that’s why he took the initiative and RAN before the BOOT hit his ass.

Posted August 4, 2014 7:22 pm 


Cause they didn’t have a case. Emails don’t make fights. Signed contracts do

Posted August 4, 2014 7:19 pm 


Habidebeede Stevenson is not promoted by Golden boy if that’s what you’re assuming, so their is no legal liability to Hopkins as it relates to the case between Stevenson, Al haymon and Duva promotion. Kathy Duva’s case was weak and would have been thrown out by the court. All Kathy had with stevensons’s team was a verbal agreement, no contract was signed between the two parties. The law suit did not prevent Stevenson from fighting his last opponent so I don’t know why it would have stopped him from fighting hopkins. All she did by dropping the case was save herself the embarrassment of losing the case and legal fees .

Posted August 4, 2014 6:56 pm 


Excuse me, I was in error. Duva was not suing Hopkins as I previously stated.

Posted August 4, 2014 6:55 pm 

The Sheriff

Lets get this right.

Convicted felon, and noted r a c i s t Bernard Hopkins had to either fight his mandatory b u m or else arrange a unification by last Friday according to IBF rules.

His options were Stevenson or Kovalev.

All Kovalev’s promoter had to do, was make the deal with Stevenson so messy and under legal threat that a judge might order an injunction against it, or indicate damages would be required.

She was never really going to win the case, it`s all based off a verbal contract, and slimy Al Haymon isn`t so stupid as to leave himself open.

But you don`t always have to be able to win for the court to do your work for you, you just need to be able to push things to the point where the court process will interfere in the other guys business.

That’s what happened here. Kovalev’s team cornered the lowly, disreputable Hopkins between Kovalev or the IBF b u m mandatory.

Posted August 4, 2014 6:41 pm 

Fight Aficionado

This is a tit for tat exchange where Stevens ran like a coward and Bhop stepped up like a man to replace him, giving Stevens the freedom to defend his meaningless belt against drunken bums and Hopkins the opportunity to solidify his ATG standing.

Posted August 4, 2014 6:04 pm 


This is the only way Kovalev secures these fights… by lawsuit or threat thereof.

Posted August 4, 2014 5:39 pm 


Duva…stupid predictive text…

Posted August 4, 2014 5:34 pm 


So is Hopkins fighting Stevenson’s battle? Stevenson becomes a bigger laughing stock the longer he doesn’t fight Kovalev.

Posted August 4, 2014 5:34 pm 


“She wasn’t gonna win anyways.”

Oh yes she was Tony. Why do you think the lawsuit is being dropped? Diva got exactly what she wanted: Hopkins fights Kovalev as they previously agreed to or GBP and Bernard lose their a$$es in court. Now the fight is happening and the lawsuit is dropped. And Hopkins is forced to fight on HBO.

Oh yeah, Kathy was going to win big time.

Posted August 4, 2014 5:33 pm 


Now u know why Hopkins agreed to fight Kovalev. All of Hopkins’ bravado when he was interviewed by Kellerman on last Saturday night was just that–hot meaningless air. I wouldn’t be surprised if Hopkins gets “injured” just before the fight and has to pull out.

Posted August 4, 2014 5:28 pm 


Wasn’t gonna win? Without lawsuit threat, Hopkins would probably be waiting for Stevenson fight now.

Posted August 4, 2014 4:47 pm 


She wasn’t gonna win anyways. Kathy needs to learn how to promote or get out the way of those that has the ability to promote.

Posted August 4, 2014 4:38 pm 


I like Kathy’s style

Posted August 4, 2014 4:04 pm 

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