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“However a totally focused and disciplined Geale could win on points.”

Not a chance. GGG would KO him. Geale struggled and lost to Barker. If they ever do fight GGG would wipe out Geale fast. Geale is made for GGG. Anyone can see that.

Posted February 24, 2014 6:30 am 


@Aussie – “CheezB is a disgrace. He is a Geale basher, yet calls himself Australian. You are the epitomy of un-Australian. Go somewhere else with your anti-Australian rhetoric and keep cradling Uncle Sam’s bag, you brainwashed, unoriginal drone.”

Ay yay yay, where to start?
First off, nice ad hominem (google it). If you avoid addressing the actual argument and focus on (a hopeless attempt at) character assassination, it just shows that you’ve got nothing.

Golovkin is not American, so what does Uncle Sam have to do with it?
How am I the “drone”, when you’re the one condoning mindless servitude to nationalism? Do you agree with every decision that Mundine makes?
OH THAT’S RIGHT, he doesn’t count because he’s muslim and has controversial opinions about the protection of his fellow native Australians! How silly of me!?

And thanks for using the word “un-Australian”. It’s a word used by morons on Australia Day who walk around wrapped in flags talking about how ethnics who keep any semblance of their culture should “go back to their own country”. They throw around those slogans like “We grew here, you flew here!”. They vote to “STOP THE BOATS!”
The funniest part is that they also call it un-Australian when much of the Aboriginal Australian community isn’t so keen to celebrate the anniversary of the day their land was taken from them.
If you’re aboriginal, you’d better be a Geale-style one with no open opinion on controversial matters, otherwise you’re instantly going to be the “villain”.

In terms of Geale, I’ve supported him for longer than 99.9% of Australians have even known of him (i.e. I noted that in his first Mundine fight, it was the first time most other people in the bar had even seen him… and even after the controversy, they immediately forgot about him until the Sturm fight).
I’ve never criticized his skills (only ever praised them), and also pointed out that I don’t believe he’s scared of Golovkin. That doesn’t mean I have to agree with everything he does (which I clearly don’t).

All I can say is, if Mundine was in the same situation… if he had a guaranteed title shot, would you have protected his decision to avoid it?
For instance, did you support Mundine’s decision to avoid the Trout fight the other year? In fact, I distinctly remember him being CRUCIFIED by everyone that knew anything about it (including me, as I did when Mundine also avoided Golovkin back in 2010 I believe it was… Golovkin even offered to come to Australia at the time).
So would you label yourself that moronic term, “Un-Australian”, for not supporting Mundine’s every decision?

Posted February 24, 2014 5:31 am 


CheezB is a disgrace. He is a Geale basher, yet calls himself Australian. You are the epitomy of un-Australian. Go somewhere else with your anti-Australian rhetoric and keep cradling Uncle Sam’s bag, you brainwashed, unoriginal drone.

Posted February 24, 2014 2:42 am 


Geale put in his worst performance I had seen from him and still beat Barker to a pulp. Geale would be a legitimate test for GGG. I would pick GGG by KO as Geale sometimes likes to trade and really doesn’t have the power to come off best against GGG. However a totally focused and disciplined Geale could win on points.

Posted February 23, 2014 9:07 pm 


“Still, I saw Geale vs. Barker. GGG would whoop his ass.”

Maybe, but Geale whooped Barker’s ass and got robbed of the victory.

Posted February 23, 2014 7:57 pm 


Ray – You’re talking like GGG is avoiding Geale or something. Geale was offered a fight to be GGG’s next opponent, but he turned the fight down because the fight date conflicted with a UFC PPV in Australia. Thus, the fight wouldn’t have been seen there. I don blame Geale for refusing the fight on those grounds. Still, I saw Geale vs. Barker. GGG would whoop his ass.

Posted February 23, 2014 7:32 pm 

Ray Ray

Hell….Geale even has a better KO% than Murray? And Geales def not none as a puncher….Murrays soft hands is y he didn’t beat Sergio. He let more punches go and landed more but mostly in affective punches….No doubt this is part of the reason GGG wants Murray? So he can walk through him & continue 2 look like a truck v tailor made opponents. Geales movement & punches in bunches from all angles would give GGG a far better fight than Murray.

Posted February 23, 2014 6:19 pm 

Ray Ray

Dave-Geale, Gold medal in Murrays back yard com games in England….Murray must have been busy that week, or locked up. Former IBF, WBC, IBO middleweight champ. 2 loses of his career both by SD. Beatn 4 former or current champs, 2 of them in there own back yard.
Murray-fought 4 title twice, yet 2 win. If u want 2 count the interim title he won??? Go 4 it…..Like I said….Better.

Posted February 23, 2014 6:13 pm 


Seeing as so many people thought Murray beat Martinez in that fight, I’d love to see GGG vs. Murray.

Posted February 23, 2014 6:03 pm 

Ray Ray

How funny? Geale has unified @ middleweight not GGG not Sergio…..left Germany with 2 straps….no1 does that. Lara current champ @ 154. What’s Murray? What’s he got? He’s solid don’t me wrong but not champ meterial…

Posted February 23, 2014 5:53 pm 


Lara & Geale better than Murray?

That’s pretty funny. LOL

Posted February 23, 2014 5:16 pm 

Ray Ray

Cheezb- Geale turned down GGG because Geale already had a rematch 2 avenge his only loss at the time vs Mundine…..the date set 4 the supposed GGG Geale fight was straight up after the mundine fight? There wasn’t even time 4 a 8 week training camp u moron. GGG is all smokes and mirrors 4 ever calling out guys when a fight isn’t possible than claiming 2 b avoided? Haven’t heard anything from here after Lara & Geale have called him out have we? Except that he wants 2 fight a guy not as good as those in Murray.

Posted February 23, 2014 5:07 pm 


Good points Martin. Poxon’s main qualification for his job seems to be being Ricky Hatton’s mate.

Posted February 23, 2014 3:30 pm 


I think Martin was banged up twice for fighting. GGG maybe the best middleweight but Martin Murray is his most dangerous future opponent. Hope they make the fight at some point in the next 12 months, Golovkin v Murray could be a very exciting fight.

Posted February 23, 2014 1:37 pm 


P.S A quick google of the keywords brought me to this, from his website:

“Martin Murray has recently had to change he up-coming flight plans due to his past. Due to Martin having a checkered past he has struggled to get a visa for entry into the United States. Martin is still able to get a visa, however it is going to take longer than they originally thought.”

So there you go: they sound optimistic, anyway.

Posted February 23, 2014 12:50 pm 


Yes, I would have thought GBP would be interested in signing him too.

As for whether he’ll ever be able to fight in the US, I’m afraid I have no idea about that. It’s surely something his management and promotional teams have been/will be working on, but I guess it’s possible that nobody knows the answer to that at this point.

Posted February 23, 2014 12:47 pm 



Can Murray EVER fight in the US?

I would of thought GBP must be very interested in signing Murray up. Murray is right at the top of his game, and unlucky not to already hold both the WBC and WBA belts.

Posted February 23, 2014 10:29 am 


When Murray says

“The reason I left was cuz of them failing to deliver fights & a certain member of their team”

It seems pretty clear that Poxon is that “certain member of their team”.

Perhaps Murray will be snapped up by Eddie Hearn.

Posted February 23, 2014 9:34 am 


Murray retweeted this comment:

@MartinMurrayBox isnt it funny how the HP statement doesn’t mention the SNAKE ? #truthwillcomeout #teammurray #lankyfanny

Again, this seems to be an allusion to Richard Poxon.

Posted February 23, 2014 9:30 am 


It seems like Richard “Lanky” Poxon, CEO of Hatton Promotions, may be the main reason why Murray wanted to leave Hatton’s stable. There’s plenty on the internet about how Murray has been p issed off with HP, and Richard Poxon in particular, and then there’s this:

“Golden Boy promotions CEO Richard Schaefer has let rip at Hatton promotions, slamming the British outfit for reportedly ruining a big fight with their WBO middleweight champion Peter Quillin and Martin Murray. If the news is true, it certainly is a massive wasted opportunity for the Englishman who is coming off a stunning performance against 160 lb king Sergio Martinez back in April although the St Helens technician was terribly unlucky to face some dubious scoring and a referee who failed to spot a legitimate knockdown. Previous to that, Murray (25(11)-1-1) was again unlucky to earn just a draw with former champion Felix Sturm over in Germany. Both performances have propelled him to the top-end of the middleweight rankings, however, due to a previous criminal conviction Murray is unable to secure a visa Stateside although it now appears that Hatton promotions CEO Richard Poxon has absurdly turned down an offer for Golden Boy promoted champion Quillin to travel to England as to face Murray in what would be a high risk move.

“We had one opponent in mind, Martin Murray but the people he is with are impossible to deal with. Ricky Hatton is a great friend of mine. I’m always there for him and we talk to each other once in awhile. The CEO he has is an idiot, Richard Poxon. He doesn’t know what he is doing,” stated an angry Schaefer. “We wanted to give Martin Murray a title shot, who had a great fight with Sergio Martinez and a lot of people think he beat Sergio Martinez. And if it would have been outside of Argentina he probably would have won. We said we can have Peter Quillin come to England, no problem. But unfortunately he has a promoter who doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing. If you have the wrong promoter, that guy can really f*** up your career. And here you have Martin Murray, coming off an unbelievable performance, and you have Peter Quillin who is willing to come to England – and Murray’s promoter finds a way not to make it happen.””

Posted February 23, 2014 9:28 am 


was robbed against over hyped martinez.

Posted February 23, 2014 7:53 am 


@Woop Woop

Did you know James Randi has a $1M USD prize on offer for anyone that can show proof of supernatural abilities?
So since you’ve clearly proven that Golovkin has ESP, why not go claim your prize? Idiot.

Posted February 23, 2014 7:13 am 


@Ray Ray – “GGG fight on the table? Lara and Geale calls out GGG and and tries 2 get a fight with Murray?”

Geale called out Golovkin literally a week after publicly turning down a contract to fight Golovkin… and this isn’t the first one either.
He turned down Monte Carlo because he wanted the April HBO date. He turned down the April HBO date because PPV in Australia would be showing UFC that day.
The PPV issue is a legitimate reason, but it’s something he really should’ve just sacrificed in order to make the fight (i.e. HBO aren’t just going to change their dates to accomodate someone that doesn’t really bring much to the table, when there are others that’ll just agree with the existing schedule).
After April, Golovkin is supposed to do another Monte Carlo fight (which I’m assuming is the offer Murray currently has). Geale has already stated he only wants HBO, but this Europe date may be his last chance to get Golovkin.
After Monte Carlo, Golovkin is most likely going to end up on an HBO date with Martinez. If Golovkin beats Martinez, then he’s going to be chasing big money fights which most likely means a move to Super Middleweight to pursue the likes of Ward, Froch, Chavez Jr, etc.
Geale needs to take the April date. If he is able to beat Golovkin, then the sacrifice of one event’s Australian PPV money (which frankly wouldn’t be that a big a slice of the pie anyway) will be handsomely made back by very likely getting a Martinez call up soon after.

As for Lara.. the dude called out a guy that he can’t even legally sign a contract to fight. Why would anyone take that seriously? Get into a position to be able to sign a fight on HBO, then the fight can happen and everyone will be happy… until then, the challenge is meaningless.

Posted February 23, 2014 7:10 am 


Well, I’ll be interested to hear Murray’s take on it. There surely must be something more to it than Murray just not accepting the fights. I never thought of him as the type to fear anyone, and was surprised when it came out that he was turning down Golovkin fights.
But hearing that there was also a Sturm fight turned down is even more confusing given that Murray arguably beat him last time out.

Maybe the money wasn’t to his liking? It’s possible that the Martinez fight gave him a taste of bigger purses (though I was under the impression Sturm turned over large amounts of money in Europe).

Posted February 23, 2014 7:03 am 


Sturm was robbed of a W in that fight…i hate Sturm and hope he gets kod but was very surprised at the decision.

Posted February 23, 2014 6:42 am 


Boxtra, he already beat 1 of them and got robbed!

Posted February 23, 2014 4:33 am 


MM is smart enough to know he would have lost to either of those 2 fighters.

Posted February 23, 2014 1:11 am 



The latter.

Hearn and FW have the money, Hatton doesn’t and it’s that simple.

Posted February 22, 2014 11:09 pm 



The latter.

Hearn and Warren have the money, Hatton doesn’t and it’s that simple.

Posted February 22, 2014 11:09 pm 

Fight Aficionado

You guys just look for hypothetical situations to twist into a GGG is ducking so and so scenario. HBO approved 3 fighters and Murray wss one of them. This leaves 2 evidently. Lara is a Showtime fighter so he was making an empty boast “calling out” GGG.

Posted February 22, 2014 10:45 pm 

Woop Woop

Now it becomes clear why GGG was chasing Murray. Again manipulating the circumstances so it has the illusion of another fighter avoiding him. Obviously Murray is/was having issues with his promotional group and had to sort things out. It is typical of GGG to jump at a situation like that, knowing the fight can’t/won’t be made and gives him another excuse to fight outside the Top #20 guys or more blown up Jnr Middles. Of course his blind following are oblivious to his smoke and mirror games. Deathly quiet from the GGG camp as the public want to hear his responses from numerous quality call-outs. Nup, he looks to good facing below par competition rather than be exposed against upper tier fighters.

Posted February 22, 2014 7:40 pm 

Ray Ray

GGG fight on the table? Lara and Geale calls out GGG and and tries 2 get a fight with Murray?

Posted February 22, 2014 6:58 pm 

Fight Aficionado

What’s the real story behind this? Makes no sense for Murray to decline two title shots unless he’s burned out, a drunk, or was trying to force Hatton to cancel their contract.

Posted February 22, 2014 6:49 pm 


What was the bs excuse?

Posted February 22, 2014 4:39 pm 


Point is he DID pull out of GGG fight with a bs excuse. Now he can spin it anyway he wants to, it doesn’t change anything…

Posted February 22, 2014 4:21 pm 


Yep I have to agree with the comments here, Murray holds all the cards, is it possible that Golden Boy could sign him up even though he can’t fight in the USA because of his criminal record? Is he ranked the number one contender by all organizations? I’d expect matchroom to get Murray but there will be others after his signature.

Posted February 22, 2014 2:38 pm 


Anon…Agree 100%

Posted February 22, 2014 2:19 pm 

Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster

Matchroom are desperately trying to recruit a big star to replace Froch, coincidentally. With them, Martin could win a title from someone like Sturm & fight some big domestics with Macklin and Lee, plus a few non-US stars like GGG.

Posted February 22, 2014 2:07 pm 


Well this a bit of a shock, and too be honest if I were a boxing promoter I’d be doing all I could to sign Murray up before someone else does. Sturm was very lucky to get away with a draw, I watched the fight and I felt at the time Murray beat him, and Martinez certainly lost the fight against Murray, but got a hometown decision in Argentina. So Murray should/could already be holding the WBA and WBC belts.

I realize that Murray did bit of time and that’s why he can’t fight in the USA but does that mean he can NEVER fight in the USA? It’s a shame for US boxing fans that they won’t get the chance to see Murray fight. Of all the challengers to Golovkin I think Murray is the most dangerous, although I could see Golovkin winning on points, simply because Murray doesn’t attack enough, but he’s certainly a serious challenger to any middleweight and super-middle if Murray moved up in weight. I can imagine several top promoters will be keen to sign Murray up, it will be interesting to see what happens next and most of all to hear Martin’s side of the story.

Posted February 22, 2014 1:48 pm 


Murray says on Twitter:

“Great reading the PR by HP. The reason I left was cuz of them failing to deliver fights & a certain member of their team. Using management as an excuse is just pathetic! My statement to come out soon clearing up all the BS what they say.”

I’d rather the statement come from Murray himself, rather than his “management”.

@Martin Murray

How about you fill us in a bit on here?

Posted February 22, 2014 12:24 pm 


Me three. This is very strange. I suspect that the statement that “things have been strained since Martin decided to change his management in 2013″ provides the real clue as to what is happening here. It just doesn’t seem credible to me that Murray would keep turning down such massive opportunities. However, Hatton also doesn’t seem like the kind of person who would screw people over (it’s not like he needs the money), so who knows? Hopefully we’ll hear Murray’s side of the story before long. Either way, it’s a real shame, because I think either of those fights would have been great.

P.S. @”Greatest Promoter of All Times”: Could you go and find somewhere else to fantasise, please?

Posted February 22, 2014 12:14 pm 


Yep, something not quite adding up here.

Posted February 22, 2014 11:23 am 


I’d like to hear Martin Murray’s side of the story.

Posted February 22, 2014 11:15 am 

Greatest Promoter of All Times.

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The Greatest Promoter of All Times has left the door open for you to join the renaissance period I am bringing to boxing. Forget Arum, Top Rank, De La Hoya, GBP, Frank, Eddie and the rest. I am the very best and I have the deepest pockets.

Posted February 22, 2014 9:59 am 

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