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carrie watkins

Sergio Martinez kicked chavez Jr ass. Sergio needs to have a rehydration rule on the rematch its not fair for anybody to fight someone that outweighed them 25 or 30 pounds. Sergio fought a hell of a fight with a knee that giving him trouble before the fight ever started and then broke his hand that is a true champion

Posted September 26, 2012 4:46 pm 


sergio had a broken hand, can anyone explain this to me?

Posted September 25, 2012 11:03 am 


JCCjnr looked very drained at weigh in and it appears that boxing should go for two weigh ins 24 hrs and 12hrs The late Great Diego Corrales apperently stacked 12lb or more before fights, his rematch with JL Castilo, Castilo was rumoured 15lb over 135lb a week before and made no effort to get under 135lb came in over @139 and cared not for his title just wanted to square the ledger!!!!! Adrien Broner did this recently to Escobedo, granted both JLC & Broner knew titles were not at stake here the advantage gained cant be understated. Those who gain huge lbs post weigh in, do so fairly, says the rules, but!!! ethicly/sportingly/morraly i’m not sure, all these catch weight fights should be met with fighter agreeing on a set weight for each fighter not both, Hence when the weight drained fighter loses “its because he cut so much”. or flip side when lighter fighter steps up and loses” its becausde he lacked power” to much $$$$$$$ involved for that logic, i just wish Harold Letterman could lose 25 yrs and PBF gain 25yrs to see if the senile old fool could “kick his Ass” haha, Also why im on this rant why does peeps still call OscarDLH out for his fight With TITO face it people he won that fight, rumour has it Forrest gump was on repeat in his locker, YES TITO advanced and kept coming but straight into DLH’s crafty slick counters coupled with slick feet had him already some where else Tito wasn’t!!! yes he got on his bike in the latter rounds but was still clearly landing MORE off his back foot!!! i love the fight and both fighters ,OK Now Marvin Hagler, pretty handy type he was, fought some Suger RAY Leonard guy, who by the rules of boxing used every possible square inch of that ring to ensure victory “genius,extra-ordinary,sublime such was his effort, legend status was given” ,Usian Bolt in a post olympic interview said he watched the fight as a kid and from that day forth he was going to run and run real real quick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bolt has yet to hit in any his races, Smart!

Posted September 21, 2012 2:42 am 

ronnie d.torres

The only thing left to say is that martinez was almost wheelchair bound, broken hand, bad knees, and still won handily. The downside is that he almost had his lunch handed to him in 1 round with a boxer fighting out of one eye.

Posted September 19, 2012 10:42 pm 


:sad: the only thing left to say is that martinez was almost wheelchair bound and still won the fight. lets face it, he almost had his lunch handed to him in 1 round. That was with a fighter fighting with one eye.

Posted September 19, 2012 10:36 pm 

M. Mendoza

THE MAD SCIENTIST: As you say — Chavez Jr. was more durable, stronger, and tougher than Martinez’s other opponents. He just wasn’t more durable, stronger, or tougher than Martinez himself. Ce’s la differance. I know it’s hard for Chavez Jr. fans to accept that he was outdone in the Macho department — but Martinez actually did just that. Chavez Jr. probably learned more about boxing from fighting Martinez than from watching his own father give him free coaching. He will be forever indebted to Martinez for increasing his learning curve. PEACE.

Posted September 19, 2012 2:17 am 

M. Mendoza

WTF: Some fans do everything within their keyboard power to award Chavez Jr. the victory anyway. It’s always done very cleverly and very creatively — even by distorting some boxing ring action just to have their hero come out super duper winner at all costs. The reality is that Martinez won plain and simple, but give Chavez fans a couple of days or weeks and Martinez’s victory will practically be erased from their memory and replaced with only Chavez Jr.’s 30 seconds of action. What action!! Martinez came back and made him pay!! Oh, yeah, they’ll forget that too.

Posted September 19, 2012 2:04 am 

M. Mendoza

It’s 100 times more to Martinez’s credit that he fought with a broken hand than to Chavez Jr. credit that he took Martinez’s punches not as effective as having the full use and power of his left hand. Regardless of how Martinez broke his left hand — Chavez Jr. was never good enough to take advantage of that. Agree that Chavez Jr. will eventually be among the champions similar but not quite like his father and definitely not in 2012.

Posted September 19, 2012 1:55 am 

the champ

i agree…it seems junior gets a pass every fight recently on the urine samples…why?…and he does put on 15-20 after weign-in…hmmm…performance enhancing drugs?

Posted September 18, 2012 11:16 pm 

the champ

he was down ONCE…the other time he was flung…and actually martinez won the last minute of the 12th

Posted September 18, 2012 11:12 pm 

te tumbo

bottomline, you sound like a moron declaring that Junior outweighed Martinez by 20lbs while simultaneously conceding you don’t actually know EITHER fighter’s fight-night weight(?!). M-O-R-O-N, MORON.

Posted September 18, 2012 8:37 pm 

te tumbo

“Jnr refused to get on a scale before the fight for fight night weights”, which confirms a specific weight(?!?). why not simply say you have NO proof to validate your shrill accusations? at least then you’d get credit for being honest not just a bitter Hater.

Posted September 18, 2012 8:35 pm 

te tumbo

“because the state athletic commission doesnt require it” and Martinez didn’t request it or OSTesting.

Posted September 18, 2012 8:20 pm 

te tumbo

posting to yourself again Public Enema? (lol) just don’t dare use your original handle again. i will simply Not Tolerate IT . . “NOT Up In Here!” . . . :twisted:

Posted September 18, 2012 8:18 pm 


because the state athletic commission doesnt require it.

Posted September 18, 2012 7:25 pm 


Because as usual he probably weighed over 185+lbs… LOL.. while Martinez came in at 165lbs.. Guys dirty as MargaCheato… no difference…

Posted September 18, 2012 2:07 pm 


true Varnish …. :!:

Posted September 18, 2012 7:01 am 


Maravilla v Canello at 154 would be a hell of a fight. I would take Martinez if it happens within 6 months.

Posted September 18, 2012 1:01 am 


Anybody 25-30lb bigger than you will obviously hurt you if he lands common sense.Guillermo was also hurt by marroquin 2x as well why?You guessed it size difference.Nobody’s trying to take anything from kid jr.Since when is telling the truth & giving the facts hating?These jr fans are still butt hurt i see,oh well cry me a river.Jr a solid fighter that needs to fight guys his own size.Bet all these jr fans are same rios fans as well lol.Watch what happens to rios when a guy fights someone his own size.War that’s what happens.

Posted September 18, 2012 12:57 am 

The Doctor

I love how Te Tumbo is putting flack on Martinez for moving against a stationary Chavez when he used to pick on Trinidad for being stationary against De la Hoya and calling Oscars triathalon a boxing clinic. Was it cause Martinez was too dominant for ur taste or was it cause Chavez was Mexican?

Posted September 18, 2012 12:20 am 

Pollo Loco

Martinez is a liar. He’s just trying to get out a rematch. Jcc fights frequently and probably wants to get right back in there. Martinez won but took the beating of his career and he won’t take another chance like that.

Posted September 18, 2012 12:17 am 

Kid Dynamite

Please. Dont. You are really embarassing yourself. Look at your boy Chavez’s face after the fight! I could hardly recognize him. Thought it was the Elephant man. Sergio’s injuries are physical only and they can be healed! And Chavez’s? His main injury is his brain! Sergio talks smack like all boxers do. But Chavez don’t talk much… and when he does he says stupid things like “I think that knock down warranted a rematch” and “No he didn’t have great footwork”. hahaha. Now that’s an injury that he may have been born with!

Posted September 17, 2012 11:30 pm 


I personally never thought Martinez was going to knock out Jr, I thought Jr actually had a chance but I can admit when I’m wrong. I guess you’re so proud of that minute and a half, he was dominated!!!!! He is more Arturo Gatti than Chavez sr, thats not necessarily a bad thing but whenever he fights an elite fighter he will lose……… The kid has fought almost 50 fights already, I don’t see him getting that much better at this point.

Posted September 17, 2012 10:57 pm 

te tumbo

TITOPA, i consistently posted that a Chavez Jr. win would be the biggest Upset of 2012 and my prediction almost came true. otherwise, Martinez was justifiably favored but NOT unbeatable. Btw, stop trying to desperately diminish the degree of trouble that a cut, bloodied, and dazed Martinez was in during the 12th. he was almost out on his feet and in both KDs only the ropes and Chavez Jr. prevented Martinez from hitting the deck cleanly. it’s all in the videotape. check it out.

Posted September 17, 2012 10:54 pm 

joe 712

Jackass big head chavez got his ass handed to him. the rematch his father will have to scrape his ass of the canves.

Posted September 17, 2012 10:52 pm 

te tumbo

says You. Martinez was stumbling foward and smartly reached for Chavez Jr. who shrugged him off but in Both KDs, the ropes and Chavez Jr. prevented Martinez from hitting the canvas cleanly. nonetheless, i give Martinez credit for adapting and executing a potshotting (NOT powerpunching) fight-plan that completely disarmed Chavez Jr. Btw, in terms of “reaching”, your use of CAPS is overcompensating for something. but don’t worry. nobody’s gonna confuse you for a Chavez relative on the web . . . :twisted:

Posted September 17, 2012 10:48 pm 

te tumbo

these weight calculations are deceptive and misleading without providing a reasonable estimate for Martinez’s weight, i.e., exactly what is “20 pounds bigger”? 180lbs? 188lbs? 190+lbs!? is it likely or even possible for Chavez Jr. to rehydrate 30lbs+ overnight!? then fight 12 busy rounds of professional boxing and finishing strong without vomiting all over the ring? you boys sound silly with your absurd weight calculations.

Posted September 17, 2012 10:41 pm 


I guess he’s smarter than Chavez too, to know his limitations, ey?

Posted September 17, 2012 10:29 pm 


How could you hurt a guy who’s 20 pounds bigger than you are? Of course it’s harder. Besides, Martinez never touted himself as a destroyer, a knockout artist.

Posted September 17, 2012 10:28 pm 


You can spin it any way you want. Chavez will never get to the skill level of Martinez or Pacquiao or Mayweather.

Posted September 17, 2012 10:26 pm 


What would be his reason to lie about the broken hand? He already won the fight. It’s not like he needed an excuse why he won.

Posted September 17, 2012 10:24 pm 


Hard to hurt an opponent 20 pounds bigger than you are, especially with a broken lead left. Martinez had several instances of backing Chavez with some serious combinations, broken hand and all. Yes, Chavez is more powerful. He should be. He was a light heavyweight come fight night.

Posted September 17, 2012 10:22 pm 


Dude, Sergio obviously wants to give the impression that if hadn’t broken his hand, he would have fulfilled his pre-match prediction. That is a loser mentality, hence the reference to making himself unlikeable. He hung on to win so STFU with these claims and enjoy the belt.

Posted September 17, 2012 10:10 pm 

The Mad Scientist

Knock it off already! None of you feel sorry for Junior right now..Martinez was suppose to be the one to put a dent on him and since that didn’t happen now its 168, if it doesn’t happen there its 175 and all the way to heavyweight until it does..forget about watching Junior being competitve or progressing with each fight,,seeing the kid get seriously hurt is what the haters pay to see..

Posted September 17, 2012 9:56 pm 


I feel sorry for Chavez when he can’t make 160 anymore, the 168 lb division is full of fighters that would hurt his ass…..

Posted September 17, 2012 9:24 pm 

The Mad Scientist

Martinez might’ve made it look easy but obviously it wasn’t if he suffered injuries in the fight..the 12th round and all the running around in proof Maravilla couldn’t take the rounds off like he did against his previous opponents..Jr to his credit is much more stronger, tougher and more durable than all of Sergio’s recent opponents..leading up to the fight Junior’s advantages were a nonfactor to all the doubter but since Martinez failed to put a dent on Chavez and almost got ktfo in process it fools make me laugh..Lol!

Posted September 17, 2012 9:22 pm 


Yeah, you tell us, Mexican. LOL!

Posted September 17, 2012 9:18 pm 


The P4P fighter couldn’t hurt Chavez and had to get up off the canvas…Canelo will seriously hurt Martinez.

Posted September 17, 2012 9:16 pm 


I give him that. I was IMPRESSED by just what he was able to do in the 12th, especially after being outclassed for 11 straight rounds. He has heart, no question, but Martinez too showed great heart to get up and keep “fighting” (he wasn’t holding or running) until the end.

Posted September 17, 2012 7:48 pm 


“Predictable win”?? Didn’t you say Chavez would win?? It was predictable alright, for those who picked Martinez. It’s all good, I won BIG MONEY on Maravilla. Yeah baby! Easy money

Posted September 17, 2012 7:47 pm 


“Spaceman fighting against a caveman”….hahahaha!! Good one

Posted September 17, 2012 7:44 pm 


The bottom line is Chavez was puzzled, frozen and reduced to a wild swinging giant who just could not figure out his smaller/older opponent with one hand…….for 33 minutes I might add!

Posted September 17, 2012 7:44 pm 


Really?? There was times when Martinez stood right there (hands up, taunting and waving) in front of Chavez while Chavez nodded as to say “you didn’t get me”, only to back up against the ropes and get tagged. What freakin fight did you watch bro??? Damn!

Posted September 17, 2012 7:42 pm 


Dude, I can punch my sister on the arm and if it lands odd I can hurt/break my hand….that had NOTHING to do with Chavez “unrelenting pressure and durability”. Just an unfortunate thing that happens.

Posted September 17, 2012 7:40 pm 


Absolutely. La Maravilla at his advanced age put on a boxing clinic. His oafish detractors just make themselves look silly

Posted September 17, 2012 7:17 pm 


Not really. Looking at the fight, Martinez throws his punches from akward angles and is not a textbook fighter. That type of style, plus his high volume of punches lends itself to hand injuries. Calzaghe another noted southpaw had the same injury problems with his hands

Posted September 17, 2012 7:15 pm 


Chavez was thoroughly outclassed. Lucky for him he caught the tiring La Maravilla with a lottery punch in the final round. Personally, a rematch is not necessary – this was a spaceman fighting against a caveman. I’d much prefer La Maravilla taking on Canelo, then the winner against PBF.

Posted September 17, 2012 7:11 pm 



Posted September 17, 2012 7:03 pm 


hahaha! So…he’s the FIRST fighter to break his hand? He’s the first fighter to suffer and injury during a fight? What did he do wrong other than break his hand? Give the guy a break, he fought a HARD 12 round fight in which he threw hundreds of punches, broke his hand in the process and still delivered 33-34 minutes of DOMINANCE!! I would like to know what you were thinking for those 33 minutes? I bet you couldn’t believe your eyes huh? LOL

Posted September 17, 2012 6:57 pm 


Im no big fan of Chavez Jr but what’s more fragile Chavezs chin or Martinezs got P4P gettin up off the canvas and a level b fighter smiling…LOL

Posted September 17, 2012 6:51 pm 


Don’t reach dude…Martinez went down ONCE!! At least Macklin and Barker were on the cards the moment those fights were stopped, Chavez was SCHOOLED and OUTCLASSED for 34 minutes…it was almost embarrassing to watch, I couldn’t believe how EASILY Martinez made it look, he was even toying with him at one point and had Chavez against the ropes….busted, bloodied, bruised and intimidated as the smaller/older fighter teed off on him, Roach was also thinking of stopping it at one point. That says A LOT. Martinez went down, yes, he got caught, that happens, LOTS of fighters get caught, but what he had done to Chavez was thought out, planned, promised and executed using great athleticism, skills, foot speed and hand speed to OUTCLASS Chavez.

Posted September 17, 2012 6:39 pm 


i think thomas hearns broke his hand too against hagler, no matter how tough you are injuries can happen anytime, i dont think hearns was a bum.

as far as chavez junior he has no skill no footwork anyone with movement can beat him
sergio was right yeah he didnt knock him out but boxing means fighting 12 round not necessarily
knocking someone out to win a fight.

well done sergio martinez i dont see why people do not give a fighter credit for a easy victory, just coz chavez junior is a famous guys son but anyone with movement will beat him up if he goes to 168 i can tell you a handful of fighters who would destroy chavez jnr

well done sergio martinez to be honest i do not want to see a rematch marinez won rest is history

Posted September 17, 2012 6:28 pm 


Or at Jr Welterweight.

Posted September 17, 2012 6:25 pm 

te tumbo

moreover, Martinez never managed to seriously ring Chavez Jr’s. chin despite KO guarantees. to his credit, Martinez’s Plan B of simply pot-shotting and avoiding being trapped swept the rounds on points but what eventually unfolded in the 12th round was a constant risk and danger from the opening bell. Martinez adapted, dominated, and barely pulled-off the otherwise predictable win.

Posted September 17, 2012 6:06 pm 

te tumbo

after 11 rounds and 900 punches, a cut, bloodied, stunned, and injured Martinez still had to pick himself off the canvas –TWICE– to survive and collect the win. more power and greatness to him. however, Chavez Jr. is obviously a more dangerous opponent than Macklin, Barker, or Dzinziruk.

Posted September 17, 2012 6:02 pm 


i see where gael and golovkin are calling out “maravilla” i don’t think you will see martinez in the ring again for a very long time if ever he suffered so many injuries in his fight with chavez jr he might be finished torn acl broken left hand 8 staples over the left eye 2 more on the head plus i think he got his brain scrambled pretty good to just listen to the crap he is talking

Posted September 17, 2012 6:01 pm 

The Mad Scientist

Im just going off the hoopla leading up to fight, according to so many here Jr’s chin hasn’t been tested against an elite fighters power..that’s how much hate the kid gets around here that people try to discredit even the little good qualities he does have..

Posted September 17, 2012 5:59 pm 

te tumbo

“he’s a light heavyweight or cruiser weight fighting guys 2-3 divisions smaller than him for god sakes” PROOF? EVIDENCE? otherwise, the only thing a fighter has to do to fight in a specific division is to make the prescribed weight. accusations that Jr. gained 30lbs-40lbs overnight are simply ridiculous.

Posted September 17, 2012 5:57 pm 


He was using both hands throughout the fight. Somehow Sergio is just not making himself likeable. Fact is, he hung on to win after shooting off his mouth about DNA etc.

Posted September 17, 2012 5:48 pm 

Fight Aficionado

What you call stupidity others call guts, courage and pride. You can go ahead and watch boxers who play it “smart.” To boxers with pride it’s not just a matter of winning — it’s dominating opponents and giving 100% of themselves.

Posted September 17, 2012 5:41 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Well fact is Chavez Jr has a rock head so it’s not a shocker Martinez broke his brittle hands. Guys can dog on Jr’s skills but nobody can criticize his heart. The kid’s got no quit in him. Checkout the post-fight photo that’s making the rounds on Twitter. His face was mashed and he didn’t give a GD. Balls.

Posted September 17, 2012 5:39 pm 


I’d like to see jr hurt a heavyweight chin.Of course jr can take any middleweight punches he’s a light heavyweight or cruiser weight fighting guys 2-3 divisions smaller than him for god sakes.I’d like to see jr move up & fight guys his own size & see if his chin is still made of granite.Respect your opinion but i heavily disagree.Look at Floyd-marqquez.Floyd doesn’t have a granite chin by any means but Marquez was 2 divisions smaller his power played no factor at welterweight.Jr is too big.

Posted September 17, 2012 5:32 pm 


I can only credit Chavez Jr. for 2 things taking a beating and landing his vaunted left hook that hurt and dropped Martinez but up to that…. Chavez the big doofy was horrible… Martinez fought a Cruiser Weight (Chavez Jr was 190+ WTF) and did major damage with a broken hand.. Jr pressure is nothing, Martinex delt with the onslaught of Paul Williams Punching over a 100 shots per round (1st fight), Maragito loaded gloves.. and the biggest pressure from Pavlick… all credit goes to Martinez who has been good for the sport in every area asked

Posted September 17, 2012 5:27 pm 

The Mad Scientist

If Martinez broke his hands that’s credit to Junior for being so tough and durable..Sergio’s hands are obviously more fragile than Chavez Jr’s much for the notion that Junior’s chin hasn’t been tested against elite power..the kid is still learning his trade and remains unfazed in the process..

Posted September 17, 2012 5:24 pm 

te tumbo

Martinez’s injury was caused by Chavez Jr’s. heavy unrelenting pressure, which compelled Martinez to keep moving while throwing 900 punches Martinez to avoid the 12th round from occurring in the 7th, 8th, or 9th round. this was Jr’s. fight-plan all along. bottomline, the broken hand and injured knee are BOTH the result of Chavez Jr’.s pressure, heart, and overall durability. Chavez Jr. is no Macklin, Barker, or Williams. Martinez could not seriously hurt him and was always at risk of being seriously hurt and these are the factors that made Martinez’s performance so impressive. his fans only sound biased and foolish trying to pretend that it occurred in a vacuum v. his own shadow(?!).

Posted September 17, 2012 5:17 pm 


what fight did you see, he traded with him, and backed chavez jr. up several times

Posted September 17, 2012 4:57 pm 


Yeah, right. Your boy lost and it was a one handed fighter that best him. Your what-if’s are worthless.

Posted September 17, 2012 4:56 pm 

Jake Lead Rights

Hello McFly! (Tetumbo) did you not read, HE BROKE HIS LEFT HAND. How do you expect him to knock out Chavez when he has a broken hand? How is he supposed to go toe to toe with a broken hand? Dude there’s hating and there’s hating and you hate from all sides. Sergio gave him a boxing clinic he fought his fight. Marathon Man!? Wow! I hear Maratohon Man, Ballarina, Runner all bogus comments. Boxings about hit and try not to get hit. Obviously that’s not going to happen but object still stands. Sergio hit Chavez from every angle imaginable as expected from everyone. To say that he ran and danced his way around the ring is inaccurate. He boxed his way around the ring. He jabbed, double jabbed, hooked and went to the mid section with his left. Chavez fought valiantly but also fought as we all expected him to. He intended to bully Martinez into the ropes and hope to hurt him, his plan worked in the 12th round and he almost pulled it off. Hats off to Chavez but his plan was flawed with his slow lumbering legs and for that Sergio is ridiculed. The fight was exciting but to simply just hate well there’s therapy for that.

Posted September 17, 2012 4:54 pm 

te tumbo

it was caused by Chavez Jr’s. unrelenting pressure and durability, i.e., 900 punches thrown while constantly moving to avoid Jr’s. own crosshairs. that’s hardly an easy time of it, which explains the broken hand and injured knee BOTH the result of Chavez Jr’.s pressure, heart, and overall durability. Chavez Jr. is no Macklin, Barker, or Williams. Martinez could not seriously hurt him and was always at risk of being seriously hurt by Jr. these are the factors that make Martinez’s performance so impressive. his fans only sound biased and foolish trying to pretend that it occurred in a vacuum v. his own shadow(?!).

Posted September 17, 2012 4:33 pm 


I don;t think that Martinez needs any excuses here, do you?
For the record however, he kicked the big boy’s ass with one hand only, and impressive feat no doubt.

Posted September 17, 2012 4:27 pm 

Cary Simmons

King Sergio!

Posted September 17, 2012 4:27 pm 

te tumbo

broken hand or no broken hand, Martinez was never going to plant himself in front of Jr. and go for the punishing KO. in fact, even after 11 rounds of one-sided action the “marathon man” was unable to safely confront Chavez Jr. on a toe-to-toe basis without almost losing the bout. if Martinez had attempted to confront Chavez Jr. sooner, he would’ve been knocked-down and or TKO’d that much sooner.

Posted September 17, 2012 4:26 pm 


That’s true that those are fight related injuries….but Chavez’s wounds were caused by Sergio’s punches, Sergio’s wound (broken hand) was an unfortunate thing that was NOT caused by Chavez’s punches. There is a difference.

Posted September 17, 2012 4:26 pm 


That’s true!

Posted September 17, 2012 4:24 pm 

Its Me, Ernie

Excellent job on Chavez, Sergio. You exposed what most of us were pretty sure of before the fight.

Posted September 17, 2012 4:24 pm 

te tumbo

Martinez’s errors are no less valid than the right decisions he made during this fight. Chavez Jr’s. strategy all-along was to apply heavy and unrelenting pressure that would force Martinez to make a bad if not desperate judgement call like exchanging v. Chavez Jr. THAT was ALways the fight-plan and it was Jr’s. pressure that compelled Martinez to display the heart, guts, and “stupidity” of a ring-warrior. it was Martinez’s fight-plan B to avoid these exchanges with the masterful pot-shotting performance he ultimately employed. bottomline and in both cases, it was Chavez Jr’s. potency that compelled both wise and foolish decisions on Martinez’s part.

Posted September 17, 2012 4:16 pm 

Jake Lead Rights

I think the injured left hand was a good thing for Sergio because it forced him to fight more intelligently and cautiously. It was also good for Chavez because his face would’ve looked a lot worse and would’ve probably gone down. I think for the next fight Sergio should hire Rafael Garcia to wrap his hands. And on the next fight Sergio should get a lot more than Chavez. Chavez got $3Million and Sergio got $1.4 plus PPV percentage. Who know’s maybe Sergio ended up with more it’s all a gamble. Speaking of gambling Floyd Mayweather bets more than that on a weekends football bets.

Posted September 17, 2012 4:13 pm 

The Kingslayer


Posted September 17, 2012 4:05 pm 

The Kingslayer

Excuses excuses. Stuff like this should be kept quiet. You won Sergio now stop trying to rub salt in the wind just because you didn’t stop Jr like you said you would.

Posted September 17, 2012 4:04 pm 

te tumbo

“Sergio Martinez was forced to fight the last eight rounds of his bout with . . . Chavez Jr. with a broken left hand” and Jr. was “forced” to fight during the same period of the fight with a swollen eye, a bloody nose, and bloody mouth, i.e., FIGHT-Related injuries. a fighter’s durability can either be an advantage or disadvantage but NOT an excuse explain what they did or didn’t do in a fight. otherwise, Marquez fought with a broken nose for the last 11 rounds of his first bout v. Pacquiao*, which entitles him to WHAT?

Posted September 17, 2012 4:03 pm 


Not every Mexican fan are on his a##,only the casuals real Mexicans despise him & canleo for being fake paper champions.They make Mexicans like Sanchez,Chavez sr,Morales,Marquez Look bad because they take pride in fighting & beating the best.It is what it is though,Casuals are the majority in any fan base (95%).

Posted September 17, 2012 3:58 pm 

tim zawa

Well, injuries are a part of the game and it’s annoying that Martinez team has to justify something.
Yes, the last round changed the global perception ; Chavez could win, hurt Martinez BUT taking into account the size’s gap, Sergio was tremendous and dominated so much, morever he exchanged punches when he was hurt.
So not underestimating Chavez Junior, he doesn’t really deserve a rematch. He should fight 2 top guys and then we will see if he is worth enough for a title fight.

Posted September 17, 2012 3:50 pm 

Alex L

agreed, it almost cost him the fight. Should have grabbed and held on, and made Chavez look even more boring and ordinary. Chavez didn’t fight for full 12 rounds, why give him the opportunity when you are the one who put in all the work and won all the rounds. Heart yes, but not smart at all, he had nothing to prove at that moment in the fight – nothing.

Posted September 17, 2012 3:49 pm 


So, he’s not the first fighter to fight with injuries. He had to finish. too much at stake.

Posted September 17, 2012 3:49 pm 

tim zawa

If he was so fragile, he wouldn’t be a Champ and one of the bestpound4pound at the age of 37, specially taking into account that he has more than 50 professional fights.

You almost always get injuried in a “war”, look at the postfights medical exam (boxing,MMA etc.).

Posted September 17, 2012 3:41 pm 


Damn it seems to be alot of hate on this thread concerning Chavez. For a guy with no ameteur background, and really this being only his fourth fight with a quality opponent he gave a pretty good account of himself, esp. against a p4p type fighter. DUde showed heart and one hell of a chin. For the person who posted Jr. fought like a coward, I suggest you get some gloves and get your a** in the ring and see if you can take one punch to the face from a p4p fighter buddy. I hate people that call boxers cowards…U are prob. a coward yourself my man.

Posted September 17, 2012 3:34 pm 


Actually Sergio is the true linear 154 lb champ he gave up his title to go to middleweight because no body would fight him

Posted September 17, 2012 3:31 pm 


SKILLS is more important than BONES!!!

Posted September 17, 2012 3:20 pm 

Clown face

Chavez is in absolute clown he’s better off quitting the fight game because he’s not a real fighter it’s totally obvious the Mexican people can be on his ass all they want but the bottom line is this guy sucks

Posted September 17, 2012 2:55 pm 


Agreed! It would be an awesome fight. Sergio is also physically strong…he easily handled Chavez, and Chavez looked close to 190lbs on Saturday. Floyd would come into the bout in the high 150’s, Sergio would have NO problem with Floyd’s “size” or “strength”. It’ll be SKILL vs SKILL.

Posted September 17, 2012 2:49 pm 


My buddy broke his hand once (he dos muay thai) and it ONLY hurt when he punched…he could make a fist (with some discomfort), clap and grip whatever, it was the moment he’d punch something is when he said felt the pain. You can break your hand in VARIOUS ways, we don’t know for sure.

Posted September 17, 2012 2:46 pm 


That explains why he let off instead of going for the kill.Wow jr is more in trouble this time,elite fighters are even better in a rematch.You throw in the fact that Sergio will be fully healthy & has the blue print already it’s night night for jr.That would make the bought off judges irrelevant,how sad.

Posted September 17, 2012 2:45 pm 

B Red

Its called stupidity that almost cost him the fight

Posted September 17, 2012 2:42 pm 


Cotto bloodied Floyd’s nose with sharp jabs to his face.. No telling what effect Sergio’s zinging jabs and straight lefts would have on Floyd.. I’m not sure the last time Floyd fought a real sharp-shooter.. Zab Judah would be the closest but he’s a guy who always flagged in the late rounds.. Martinez is one of the most durable guys out there because his legs are still so good.

Posted September 17, 2012 2:38 pm 


I’d LOVE that fight….Underdog? Of course. Winnable bout? Absolutely!

Posted September 17, 2012 2:34 pm 


Floyd is the 154-pound Champ… That is a title Martinez would like to add to his collection.

Posted September 17, 2012 2:31 pm 

E in Denver

Broken hands, ear drums, noses are common among fighters. Joint injuries also become more likely once you get into your 30s. But injuries are part of any sport, this was still near a total domination by Martinez. Knee injuries take a long time to heal & usually never heal 100%. This fight may be the high water mark for Martinez considering his injuries & age.

Posted September 17, 2012 2:30 pm 


I like Martinez vs Floyd at 154… Another southpaw for Floyd to practice up on. This time a much faster and more skilled southpaw than VO.

Posted September 17, 2012 2:29 pm 


Agreed! The knockdown was due to Martinez “fighting” with Chavez, he took a chance a paid a small price, but the way he got up and continued to “fight” showed just how much heart he had….I rewatched the fight last night and Martinez actually won the last 20-25 seconds, he was tagging Chavez at will.

Posted September 17, 2012 2:29 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Sick. He pitched a shutout through 10 or 11 rounds with a broken hand — his power hand for that matter. That knockdown in the 12th changed the conversation a bit but that only happened because Martinez has 10x more guts than these boring defense first boxers who run for their lives once they’re ahead on the scorecards. Props.

Posted September 17, 2012 2:26 pm 


I somewhat agree….EXCEPT for the “less heart than advertises”, I thought he showed a LOT of heart in the 12th, for someone who was getting punished for 33 minutes, he came back strong!! But, I do believe Martinez showed TREMENDOUS heart for getting off the canvas only to trade with Chavez, the last 20 seconds of the 12th belonged to Martinez, he was fighting with heart!

Posted September 17, 2012 2:26 pm 


I’m on the fence.

Posted September 17, 2012 2:20 pm 


..@zurdos40 ur Chavez got beat and outclass ..but haters will always be haters no matters what the result are !!

Posted September 17, 2012 2:20 pm 


Chavez should not get the rematch at all…he needs to earn it now

Posted September 17, 2012 2:15 pm 


Give Martinez the Credit he’s due.. Niether Death Threats, Nor Vandalizing his home, Nor Chavez Jr. coming in as a Heavyweight, Broken Hand, Torn Ligament could keep Martinez from totally dominating and winning his Belt Back… he reduced Chavez Jr. to a Head First Plodding Neanderthal winging wild amateurish shots… and with one hand to boot.. Chavez Jr. has been exposed as the Hype Job we all knew he was.. hopefully some of his Groupies realize this now…

Posted September 17, 2012 2:07 pm 


I believe Martinez will stop Chavez in a rematch….they can say “Chavez will be better prepared next time”, but that also goes for Martinez. Who will benefit from being “better prepared”? I say Martinez, if he dominated 33 minutes of a 36 minute fight with room to “better” himself, I say he wins big in a rematch.

Posted September 17, 2012 2:05 pm 


How are those “excuses”?? In the post fight interview he gave props to Chavez for hanging in there and giving a good fight, and for coming back (somewhat) in the last round, he didn’t make “excuses”, if these were “excuses” he would’ve brought them up right after the bout.

Posted September 17, 2012 2:03 pm 


He should have said “son, you fought like a coward”. Because that is what Chavez Jr. Did. At distance chavez rarely swung because he knew the beating he would take if he did. Flat out scared to swing at distance. He waited to get close to swing which he hardly ever did. Chavez is a bum, with basic everyday human skills but built strong. He won’t last long fighting anyone good. Slow, poor feet, with far less heart than advertised.

Posted September 17, 2012 2:02 pm 


Great skilled boxer but what a fragile guy!!!! Falls and his knee is damaged. Hits and his hand is broken. Receive just one a fall to the canvas. He just won he dont need make excuses….

Posted September 17, 2012 1:48 pm 


Different? Yes. Improper? Don’t think so.

Posted September 17, 2012 1:46 pm 


I think Martinez would have gotten the KO he wanted and promised had he not had a broken hand. With the exception of 1 minute in the last rough this was total domination by a one handed Sergio! That really puts Chavez’s skills or lack of them into an even clearer perspective!

Posted September 17, 2012 1:45 pm 


Agreed. These are world class fighters who have world class trainers who’ve wrapped hands thousands of times. It may be a little different from trainer to trainer but those hands get wrapped right. Too much $ on the line for that.

Posted September 17, 2012 1:43 pm 


Link to Martinez not having his hands wrapped properly? I have never heard this about a elite professional fighter.

Posted September 17, 2012 1:36 pm 


What are you suggesting?

Posted September 17, 2012 1:33 pm 


Andre Ward fought most of Ward-Froch with a broken left hand.. Froch and his corner never suspected anything was wrong with Ward because Andre continued to use it — and broke it in several more places. It seemed to really be bothering him in the 12th round but he never even mentioned it after the fight. Contrast that with Kermit Cintron who fell to the canvas writhing in agony after hurting his left wrist. Wladimir Klitschko broke his left hand in the 2nd round vs Brewster, in their 2nd fight — but WK never even mentioned it to Steward. A smart decision because those things leak quickly to the opposing team. Martinez’s team doesn’t wrap his hands particularly well so I’m not surprised by the broken hand. Until very recently they didn’t even wrap his thumbs… Calzaghe was another fighter whose hands were wrapped very poorly.

Posted September 17, 2012 1:30 pm 


Yeah, how many idiots believe that?? Also he was worried about a divorce issue….

Posted September 17, 2012 1:30 pm 


What Sr have to say after the fight… because he talked too much about the KO about his son about the legacy jajaj. After some more fights.. jr will be the next fernando vargas and thats sad because el feroz was one of my favorites boxer at that moment

Posted September 17, 2012 1:23 pm 


If he did that with a broken hand…can’t imagine what he’d do with two good hands in a rematch! Although I’m not 100% sold on a rematch (it was 33 minutes of schooling by Martinez), it’s good for Martinez (as far as $$), but he should try for bigger better things.

Posted September 17, 2012 1:23 pm 


Serio sergio sergio segio!!!!!!
Maravilla al tha way!!! Chavez need to fight at welterweight with diuretics jaja to do something for his legacy!!!

Posted September 17, 2012 1:20 pm 

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