A Very Candid Conversation With Roger Mayweather
22.05.07 - By John Martinez, BoxingRealm.com: This afternoon I caught up with Roger Mayweather, uncle and trainer to pound for pound king, WBC junior middleweight champion ďPretty BoyĒ Floyd Mayweather Jr. Roger was very straight forward in his answers and equally explicit in expressing some of his thoughts to me, especially when he spoke about other trainers. Here is a direct transcript of our conversation unfiltered:
Article posted on 22.05.2007
JM: Roger, thanks for taking time out to talk with me this afternoon.
RM: No problem man.
JM: Iíd like to get right to it now. Jack Mosley stated that he and his son would pursue Floyd Jr. as Floydís next fight. Any truth to this?
RM: As far as I know, my nephew is planning on fighting in November, but I donít know with who. There ainít been no money talked about as far as I know right now between Shane and Floyd, but I know that heís planning on getting in there again in November..
JM: Do you think Oscar would have faired better by having someone like Jack training and preparing him for his fight with Floyd Jr?
RM: (Cutting in) He wouldíve got his ass whooped. Thatís it. Shit, Oscar wouldíve had a better chance if he had had my brother in the corner. But guess what? He still wouldíve got his ass whooped. It doesnít matter who Oscar gets, he still gonna get his ass whooped. It wouldíve made no difference at all if he had had Shaneís daddy in his corner.
JM: Speaking hypothetically here, handicap a fight between Shane and Floyd?
RM: First of all, speed donít win fights, skill does. Heís (Floyd) the most skilled fighter out there. Heís the most skilled fighter out there period. See, Floyd knows how to beat Oscar and heíll know how to beat Shane too. Let me put it this way, Oscar fought Mosley twice right?
He lost both times. I think Oscar won the second one, but they gave it to Shane see? So if Oscar struggled against Shane both times, and you and me believe that Oscar beat Shane the second time around and then went and lost to my nephew, howís Shane gonna beat my nephew?
Now listen, the fight with Oscar wasnít even close. I came up with the game plan and I told Floyd not to stay on the ropes because I didnít want him to give people a reason to believe that Oscar was doing something. This shit wasnít even close. Oscar wasnít hitting shit. He was hitting shit all night. So whatís Shane gonna do, huh?
JM: Looking back as a trainer, do you have any thoughts about Freddie Roach leaving some/all of his fighters in order to train Oscar when some of his guys were training for some of the biggest fights of their careers? For example, Israel Vazquez going against Rafael Marquez this past spring. Do you think that Vazquez losing to Marquez was a direct effect of Roachís departure from Vasquezís camp in favor of Oscarís?
RM: Ah man forget that bullshit. Freddie Roach canít train no fucking way so it donít make no fucking difference anyway. Freddie ainít nothing but a punch drunk fighter himself. I know because I used to spar with him before. Let me tell you something, Freddie Roach canít train no fucking way.
But let me tell you something, Freddie Roach got a lot of fucking money for fucking with DeLaHoya. If it were me, Iíd train Oscar too, but Iíd train my other fighters at the same time. I ainít gonna abandon my fighters. Freddie was getting paid a lot of money to train Oscar so I understand that, but I wouldnít abandon my fighters. Iíd just take my fighters to camp with me and train them at different times during the day so that I could give all my attention to each of them while they trained. See I love training. Itís what I do. I got some fighters that make no money and are unknown. Guess what? Still train them. Why? Because I want to take a fighter and build them into something from nothing. Training is what I do and I love it.
JM: Iíd like to ask you what you think makes a great trainer and what are your thoughts on some of the past trainers who many see as great trainers such as Angelo Dundee?
RM: Angelo Dundee? What the fuck did he do? Who in the fuck is gonna tell their fighter to go out there and lay on the ropes to get their ass whooped in hopes that their fighter will come back and win? Iím not a bullshitter. I tell it like it is. Iím just being honest here. Listen, why did Leonard still have his trainer from when he was a kid in the corner with him if Dundee was so fucking great? He never told Ali shit. All he ever did was say ď your blowing it kidĒ what the fuck did he do? Angelo Dundee canít be a great trainer no way.
You know what a trainer is supposed to do? Heís supposed to make the fight easy on his guy. A great trainer should be able to take a fighter from nothing and build him into something. Not take a fighter who already has experience and been trained by someone else the whole time and then you come in later and say that you got him the championship because he won under you.
Look at Eddie Futch. People donít understand this. People say, ď Oh Eddie Futch, heís greatĒ and I say, ď Yeah, look at him. The motherfucker had 24 motherfuckers that were already made so wakeup motherfucker.Ē He didnít make no fucking champions.
Look at Alexis Arguello; he already had 60 something fights before Eddie Futch came to him. So he didnít make Arguello either. People say ď oh well, Angelo Dundee made Frazier beat Ali.Ē No he didnít, that was just Frazier just out fighting Ali. Joe was getting his ass kicked the whole fight; he just landed a punch at the right time. If Dundee was so fucking great, then why couldnít he make Frazier beat Ali the other two times? I mean letís get real here. See people donít know what theyíre talking about when they talk about great trainers.
Take my nephew for instance. I tell people they got it twisted. Iím not the only one that trained my nephew. It was me and my brother. But you know what the difference is between me and his father is? I put my nephew on PPV. You have to know your fighter and have a fighter that wants to win it.
JM: What are your thoughts on a possible rematch between Oscar and Floyd?
RM: Listen, he (Oscar) ainít crying and opening his fucking mouth like he did when he thought he beat Trinidad is he? I mean he says he wants a rematch but he also said that he has to look at the tape again, listen, you donít need to look at no fucking tape to know that you got your ass whooped. You donít need no fucking tape to tell you that you got your ass whooped do you? So if he wants to get his ass handed to him again, then letís do the rematch.
Why do you think Oscar hired my brother? He wanted to fight like my nephew thatís why. But Oscar can never beat my nephew because he ainít got the gift that Floyd has. Oscar canít do shit if you take his left hand away from him. You can take his left hand and shove it up his ass and he canít do shit anyhow. Heís done if you take his left away from him. Thatís it. People say ďoh, Oscarís one of the greats.Ē No he ainít.
Look at that fight again. All DeLaHoya was doing was throwing arm punches. He wasnít doing shit. Who got staggered in the fight, my nephew or Oscar? Oscar. Who was landing the cleaner shots? My nephew. He (Oscar) knows he got his ass kicked. Ainít no reason to do a rematch but for the money. Thatís it.
JM: Hey Rog, weíll leave it at that for now and talk again soon.
RM: No problem man. Just hit me up whenever you want and Iíll be here.
JM: Thank you.
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