Anne Wolfe Interview: ďAliís legacy didnít live on through his daughter!Ē
13.03.07 - By Izyaslav ďSlavaĒ Koza: One of the biggest and worst misconceptions currently regarding womenís boxing is that Laila Ali represents its true face. This is of course mostly due to the fact that the name Ali carries into the ring was made way before she put on a pair of gloves. Jealousy, sensationalism, and bias, aside, as a true fan hearing that Laila Ali is the best female fighter in the world in the mainstream media and seeing her take that spotlight away from more deserving boxers angers me as I am sure it does most fans.
Article posted on 14.03.2007
I would bet that not more then five lazy fight fans here in the USA who say Ali is the best, know the name of her last opponent, who she conveniently faced off against in Africa. While they can surely find out in order to spite me, I can guarantee that almost any fan I ask, who her father Muhammed Ali fought in the Rumble in the Jungle, will effortlessly say George Foreman without having to look it up.
41-year-old Lyde, and seemingly washed up and small, Christy Martin, just wonít do. The one name, the one opponent, that keeps resounding on the lips of fans, including myself, and insiders of the game, and the number one reason why this interview was made, is ďAnne Wolfe.Ē If Laila Ali quits now, that name will linger behind, mocking her and piercing her pride. When her father left the ring, was there really any fighter he didnít fight even in defeat?
Until that fight happens, as it should, there is no reason not to consider Anne Wolfe the true representative of womenís boxing. Anybody who doesnít agree need only find a copy of her devastating first round Tyson-like KO of undefeated heavyweight Vonda Ward (Wolfe is a Jr. Middleweight). However, her accomplishments inside the ring are just half the reason she should be the one drawing our attention.
Itís easy to be a role model, and a mentor to future generations, when the cameras and the press,and Oprah Winfrey show a return on that investment. I am not saying that there is nothing selfless about what Laila Ali does in that regard, but where are the same or dare I say greater accolades when Anne Wolfe showers the same attention, as a trainer, on a kid with tons of heart but no real future in boxing?
To be fair, how can Ali compete with someone who did not have a name to build her career on and had to sculpt both herself and her last name from scratch? There is nothing Ali can really do to shut down all that criticism without either falling straight on her face against Wolfe or vanquishing her Zaire and her George Foreman.
Either way, without facing Wolfe real boxing fans will not agree with the overinflated Ali express until she faces her. Until then, Anne Wolfe should be recognized as the true face of womenís boxing, because she is a truer fighter, in my estimation, inside the ring, and a better role model outside of it.
ESB: Hey, Ann, first off, thanks for your time. Tell us what did you think of your fighterís James Kirklandís performance against Billy Lyell?
Wolfe: He was nowhere near his potential, and thatís why I would give him a ĎCí overall. I know James and I know what he is capable of doing. Part of the problem is he canít motivate himself as well against a weaker opponent like Billy Lyell. He didnít have his normal intensity and only fought hard for the first two rounds as opposed to fighting that way the entire whole bout.
He didnít fight the way I fight, and we are almost similar in that regard. Were it the real James Kirkland, Billy Lyell, even though he has a good chin, would have been taken out inside three rounds. Jamesí sparring is tougher then most of his fights including this one.
ESB: How did you and James meet?
Wolfe: It was when I first went to the Gym, at 24. We had the same coach, and James was about 11, or 12 at the time. Back then, he was a better fighter, but gradually I reached my full potential faster. I also realized that I could motivate and train fighters even better then I could fight. For instance, I can run the five miles with James, and I can do the push ups with him, and, most importantly, I know him very well and know what he needs.
A lot of boxers make the mistake of switching to high profile trainers later on even though these guys do not know them as well. I know my fighters and I know what it takes and what they have to do to be successful.
ESB: You are one of the few, if not the only female trainers out there. Were there any gender role barriers when you began training fighters?
Wolfe: Not really. At the weigh-ins sometimes, I stand outside but other then that no. Iíll tell you when we go to the regional competitions here, all the coaches know me and they all come up and show their respect and gender doesnít even come into question. They all know me and know what I have done in the ring as a pro and what I have done with the guys I have trained up till now. I have fighters with five or six fights who are beating their guys with 60 fights and eventually they will come to the level of national attention.
I have kids that I am molding from the ground up. 14-year-olds who are fighting and beating kids who have been fighting since six years old. My daughter, for instance, is just sparring with boys and when she gets up she will be an even more devastating puncher than me, because Iím molding her from ever since she was a baby.
I guarantee, just give me about five years and I will train a male fighter to win a world championship. Iíll be the first female chief second to take a male fighter to a major world title and together weíll be making history.
ESB: Who are some of the perspective guys you are training right now?
Wolfe: I have guys who I have been working with who are 20 or so and they are just wreakin havoc. After the Olympics, sometime in June July they will turn pro. Right now, I have Kurtiss Colvin and Sir Smith and they are fighting at about 168, 160, respectively, and Iím going take them down to 160, 154, and both of them when they turn pro, they are just going to wreak havoc. Sir Smith, especially will be Hell on wheels.
What Iím going to do is Iím going to be the type of coach where I donít care if they lose four fights, because thing is everybody tries to make their fighter have a winning record. Yet when they get up to that level where they are supposed to mean something, they have nothing behind those numbers.
Now you have guys like Gatti, Glen Johnson, who beat on Jones and Tarver, they had six losses, and nine losses and you compare them to some of these kids who come up and they have nothing as far as pros.
ESB: I absolutely agree from a marketing standpoint they fight bums just to keep the Ď0í on their record and it means almost nothing.
Wolfe: Yeah, and you have that kid who never got a break but heís just as good as all the rest of them, and he fought Gatti, and Ward. Emanuel Augustus, and just look how many losses he got?
Thatís what messed up about boxing now. Emanuel Augustus will fight just as hard as Floyd Mayweather, but Mayweather will make a thousand times the money Augustus makes even though Augustus is the type of guy boxing comes from. Iím the type of fighter boxing comes from. The people that didnít have nothing and try to come up are the ones who make boxing.
Thatís how the Golden Gloves was founded. Back then, the Golden Gloves was more important then professional boxing. Back then, a boxing match between Louis and Shmeling garnered world-wide attention.
Now itís a lot of bright lights and glamour and guys fighting once a year. The best should fight the best and thatís it.
ESB: Well, personally, I love the guy and so do a lot of fans but he did have an issue where he couldnít get on HBO to fight a guy he could have fought if he had a better record. So in that sense there has to be some balance too. Do you plan on continuing fighting though?
Wolfe: Yeah, I might fight once or twice but really there ainít nobody left to fight. I mean, I won titles at light middleweight, middle, light heavy, heavy, eight altogether and thereís just nothing left.
ESB: Well, of course, I gotta ask you about Laila Ali. As of now, every single individual fan that I have spoken with regarding a potential Ali Wolfe fight thinks that Laila is clearly ducking you. What can you say about it?
Wolfe: I hate saying it but she is. I donít like telling people that but she is, and she ainít just ducking, she running.
ESB: You know, I absolutely agree with you, and honestly, Iíve not heard one person say itís the other way around, but to be fair to their side, what they are claiming is, and this is from one of their press releases, is that you are asking for too much money.
Wolfe: Can I tell you something? We offered Laila and she agreed something like half a million dollars. You know how much I was supposed to get? Seventy-five thousand dollars. Then, I told them ďyouíll have to give me more,Ē and they were going to give me 150,000 thousand, while she was going to make 500,000 thousand, and that is the Godís honest truth, and it was signed and Laila STILL didnít show up.
Itís not about the money. I mean, of course, if she was going to make two million, I would be a fool to take 200,000 thousand, that would be just retarded. So let me tell what I said, and I said it on ESPN, ďwe can go 60-40, 65-35. Winner takes 60, loser takes 40,Ē and that is only fair, and she still didnít want to. Then I said, ďIíll tell you what, we can donate 100% of whatever we make, half to a charity of your choice, and half to a cause of my choice. Lailaís people call me two weeks ago, and I said, ďmatter of fact, since she is going to Africa, making all this money, why donít we donate 100% of the money to Aids relief in Africa?Ē and her people said, ďhell, no.Ē
I was in it for nothing, if she wasnít going to make nothing either. We can fight 60-40 or we can donate 100% to Aids in Africa and I donít need nothing but my training expenses and she for her training expenses.
ESB: I definitely see your side of the argument but my only question would be that maybe you guys are trying to negotiate for one fight, but what about maybe two fights and possibly a third?
Wolfe: Thatís true but can I tell you something? If I canít get one fight with Laila what makes you think that she will fight me two or three times?
ESB: (laughing) Well, that is the thing sheís afraid.
Wolfe: You know, its like I told USA TODAY, Laila ainít afraid to fight me, I think sheís afraid that with either hand, left or right, I can knock her out unconscious. Not just beat her but lay her out on the ground.
Itís not because she donít want to fight me in particular, not because she doesnít want to make the money, but because I donít think she wants to be knocked out. She knows that Iím capable of knockin her the smooth hell out. I know she knows it, I know it, I know it, because I donít care, I ainít scared to lose, you know what Iím saying?
A real true warrior, any soldier, any real soldier, you know anybody who has ever fought in battle, they knew there was a chance they could die. You canít be scared to lose if you are a real warrior.
ESB: I absolutely agree with you, and I have spoken with a few fighters and you know those guys who arenít afraid to lose, they are the most aggressive, and they are the most exciting ones to watch.
Wolfe: You know what, even though Iím a black person, and I know there were female warriors, I consider myself to have a samurai heart. The samurai knew there was a possibility that they could lose, and they trained for battle in a time of peace. Iím always ready, and I ainít scared, and when I know that Iím not scared and there is a possibility that I could lose, I donít have to be bound by that caution. I donít have to be cautious from nothing, Iím going to go out there and Iím cracking you the entire way.
Iím sure of one thing, though, Iím going to be in the best shape of my life if I ever step up to Laila, because that is just what everybody wants to see. Iím really a Jr. Middleweight but for Leila I would come in 160 and she can come in at whatever, she can come in at 180, I donít care.
At 160 I hit like a fighter. I donít like telling people I hit like man, but I hit like a boxer. Itís not about being female, but I hit with real natural, god-given power.
ESB: Yeah, I was going to ask about the Ward KO later, but its obvious that more then anything you hit like a real fighter as opposed to say just hard for a woman.
Wolfe: Itís not even about weight or gender. A heavyweight may hit harder then a 125 pounder but the 125 pounder may hit more like a fighter. Itís genetics and plus, I train. My little girl weighs 148 and she is dead-lifting 350, power-lifting, so itís genetics. So on top of my god given abilities, I train like a maniac, and I spar with nothing but boys so I got a chin.
Iíve heard Laila say that I ainít got too good a chin, which is crazy because I can take punches from a guy so why canít I take a punch from a girl?
ESB: Well, yeah, and to be honest Iíve seen her staggered by, Martin, I think, it was in their fight, and Martin was smaller and got some shots in. So really I wouldnít say her chin is all that tested yet.
Wolfe: Thing is, sheís never really been in wars. Iíve been in wars, Iíve been hit, early on I went down against Mahfood, when I had only five fights, didnít know that much about boxing, and she had 14-15 fights, and I went down from strict fatigue, but I guarantee at 154 160, I knock everybody out in the first round. When I stopped knocking people out is when I went up to 68 and 75, and itís not because they had chins, itís because I lost speed and thereby power with the extra weight. Vonda Ward might have died if I would have been 160.
At 154 Iíve never lost a fight and at 154 only one girl, and she was one of the best I ever fought, named Vienna Williams, undefeated, out of Philly, went the full 10 rounds and that was soon after my loss at that. After that I had straight knockouts and they started saying go up to this weight, go up to this weight, yet Iím a jr. Middlweight fighting at 165, 175, 180 you know one fight when I fought Marsha Valley, and Laila donít know that I know the story about her and Marsha Valley, cause when Marsha Valley was in her prime and sparred Laila she signed a contract that said she wouldnít try to fight Laila. When I fought Marsha Valley, she was a real 6-foot 168 pounder, and I was a jr. Middlweight, and even though I ate spaghetti and drank water, I still couldnít get up to that weight but I still fought her and beat the hell out of her.
I fought all the good fighters, when Marion Almager was in her prime, when Mahfood was in her prime, Sunshine Deborah Fettkether never been knocked out. I fought Vonda Ward, who is a heavyweight. If you go back and look at the people Iíve fought, I bet ten times out of ten they either retired or fought once or twice and lost and that was it.
Iím a career killer and Laila knows that. Iím a hard tough fighter that nobody donít want to fight, because I donít care if I lose, Iíll fight you till I die and its over.
ESB: There are those who claim the Martin-Ali fight brought more benefit to the sport then any other fight.
Wolfe: When Laila fought Martin, Martin wasnít shit. She just went 10 rounds with Mia St. John, and after that, she done lost most of the time. You see how she lost, she was done already. Iíd rather see Laila fight somebody like Lucia Rijker. Lucia would probably whoop Laila.
ESB: Did you try to set a fight with Rijker?
Wolfe: I did and they said, ďyouíre too big,Ē and I can understand their opinion. We offered Laetitia Robinson 100,000 dollars, but I can understand that they want Laila, they donít want me and I donít have no problem with them. I donít have a problem with Lucia Rijker saying, ďyouíre bigger then me,Ē cause Iíve been to camp with her and I am too big and hit too hard for her. Even so I did try to make that fight.
ESB: Do you think that in his day Muhammed Ali would have found a reason not to fight a male opponent similar to yourself?
Wolfe: Hell, no, he would have fought everybody. I love Ali, you know he wasnít scared of nobody, and he picked his fights some time, but the majority of the time, when he was younger he fought anybody. Ali wasnít scared he fought everybody there was to fight. He got out of jail and fought the heavyweight champion of the world. He would never have not fought anybody in his life. His pride would have never let him duck nobody.
ESB: You know, there is a bit of an ulterior motive to that question because Iíve been discussing Aliís legacy with fans and talking about Lailaís career choices.
Wolfe: Aliís legacy ended with him and that was it. His legacy didnít live on through his daughter. You canít even take Mohammed Aliís big toe and say Laila has anything like it cause his big toe would have fought anybody.
Laila ainít got no damn heart.
ESB: Yeah, I have to be honest that is what I am tryin to get at. Iím not trying to insult anybody but rather convey that this is the sentiment some of the fans have right now.
Wolfe: Yeah, she ainít got no damned heart and real fans can see that.
ESB: Is there anything you want to say to her if she or her people will read this interview?
Wolfe: Yeah, you know they say Laila makes female boxing and itís all up to what Laila does and how and who else gets paid. But Iíd like to ask Laila, ďHow are you going to make something of yourself if you donít fight nobody? How would your father have been the best if there was no Joe Frazier, and George Foreman, and Ken Norton, and Sonny Liston? How would he have been the best without those people? Nobody would know nothing about him.
How can you be the best without Anne Wolfe, Laetitia Robinson, Lucia Rijker, and how can you be that unless you beat the best of the best. I donít see how you can be womenís boxing, and you arenít, when you donít have that. Your daddy fought everybody, he fought the best fighters of his day.
How come you donít understand that neither Thomas Hearns, Roberto Duran, Marvin Hagler, or Sugar Ray would have been anything without each other? They made each other. You canít be womenís boxing without true foes, you canít truly be womenís boxing unless you have those opponents.
ESB: Anne I absolutely agree. Iím asking because I pretty much know the sentiment but just want it said out loud.
Wolfe: See right now I have nothing to lose and everything to gain, and she has everything to lose, but that is what makes me the type of opponent she needs. Right now that fight wonít make me who I am, but it will make Laila who she is.
Who I am is not a bare person. Iím the best mother any child could have, Iím made already. What does Laila have? What does she have to say ďIím Laila?Ē All she has is boxing.
I got two young children, I got a whole boxing team, I got a family, plus my parents died when I was young so I made a name that is entirely my own.
ESB: Thank you. Now to switch gears a bit, can you take us through the Ward KO in brief detail?
Wolfe: Yeah, to be honest, I was kind of pissed off at Vonda Ward, cause I trained hard and I knew she was tall and a lot of people think she canít fight good, but sheís still tall and can throw a lot of punches. Yet, I was mad cause she said, she was going to keep me out with her jab and beat me on the outside, and like I said I fight so hard you better fight to win or die with me.
So I knew she was going to try and set me up with a right hand, and I donít know if you watched the fight, but I kept on pushing her back with the jab, and as she was about to throw a jab I came inward a little bit and she was going to throw her right hand, and when she went to throw it I pulled my head to the side of her own and came right over the top and that was it.
What I did was in training I got a tennis ball, and however tall my opponent is, I put the ball where there chin is, and train like that. I donít care how tall they are. Also I got a big 200 pound heavy bag and put it up high and boxed that.
ESB: Now right after you knock her down there is this moment, it reminds me a little of the De La Hoya shuffle after the Vargas knockdown. Any name for it?
Wolfe: No not really. What that is all the emotion that I had its just all that emotion I have and that just what comes out.
ESB: At the time there was probably some negative feedback regarding you standing over Ward as she was still down on the ground unconscious and celebrating.
Wolfe: Well, if she was unconscious that is part of boxing cause she would have done it to me.
ESB: No, I understand that, but what I mean is you were standing over her body.
Wolfe: You know when I fight I donít really take no prisoners and I didnít really know she was unconscious but that could have happened to me too. I hoped she was alright. I mean, after I settled down I hoped she was ok but even so you gotta understand every single person I fight I am trying to knock them out.
ESB: Absolutely no criticism on that. Did you at least make your peace after the fight? Did you talk to her?
Wolfe: I went to the hospital and stuff because they had to put her in a cat scan but they wouldnít let me see her. I went though. You know, a lot of people donít like me to say it but I really truly like to knock people unconscious, out cold and flat on their back or stomach.
ESB: Well, yeah, thatís the name of the game, and I donít think anyone holds that against you and that is what you are supposed to do.
Wolfe: The dancing was just natural and I didnít know she was hurt as bad, and I guess my emotions were so high I didnít realize, but the truth is Iím really trying to break something on you, you know. I hate to say it like that and it ainít nothing towards Vonda Ward, but she was the heavyweight champion of the world. I made history Iím the only person man or woman to hold 4 titles in 4 different weight classes at the same time, 8 total. I didnít even see Vonda Ward at that moment.
ESB: Another opponent that has been making a bit of a name for herself recently is Natasha Ragosina who is fighting out of Europe.
Wolfe: Whatís her weight at?
ESB: Iím not sure but I think itís about yours because she has been calling Ali out as well.
Wolfe: Hell, Iíll fight her.
ESB: You havenít heard of or seen her, though?
Wolfe: Well, it donít matter if I see them or not cause ill fight anybody. I ainít scared to lose to to nobody.
ESB: Well, if her people see the interview, then you are ready to fight her?
Wolfe: Iíll fight anybody. So when you put this out there I donít want her to think Iíll just fight her, Iíll fight anybody. Otherwise, how can you be a fighter?
You know ainít nobody gonna run from me but the majority of the time when they ask to fight me they want so much money. Majority of the time I donít call out nobody and the truth is a lot of those girls donít have a lot of experience anyway, so Iíll wait till they get to the top for it to mean something. Hell, though, if anybody calls me out you ainít got to call long. Donít call Laila, call me.
ESB: That makes sense. The way I see it you are one of the few boxers out there who is a fighter first, and not just a female who boxes, so if somebody wants to reach that level they should do all they can to fight you.
Wolfe: Yeah, I mean, I donít want you to think that I am a cocky person, and let me tell you something anybody can be beat by anybody. Every girl I fight I can lose to but the thing is Iíll fight them. I ainít scared to fight nobody.
ESB: Besides yourself who do you think are some other outstanding and elite female fighters out there? Who do you like to watch fight?
Wolfe: I think Laetitia Robinson is a good fighter, I think this girl Jessica Rakoczy is a good fighter, Laura Ramsey, thereís a lot of them. Even if they donít have a lot of fights I still see them as a good fighter, even if they have no fights. I donít care because they have to fight like we do. So I donít like putting anybody on no pedestal because we all the same, even me.
Just cause she is doing good. Iím not even impressed by myself by Anne Wolfe. If I wasnít me, I would find something to criticize about her. So I donít say that she canít fight or she canít fight because they still do and that is more important to me.
ESB: Well, the reason I ask is I think its good for another female fighter if Anne Wolfe says she likes her style. It helps her in terms of marketing.
Wolfe: Yeah, I do, and I might even know this girl you mentioned now that I think about it. All the ones who call Laila out. Truth is I had to burn a lot of energy before I decided to call Laila out, because I let the fans call me out for her. Really fans called my name in that sense, I didnít. So to all the girls callin her out, let them crack some backs and then let the fans and reporters clamor for the fight. Whatís that girlsí name again?
ESB: Ragosina. I think she is from Kazakhstan and she is undefeated and has some wins over other undefeated fighters.
Wolfe: Yeah, Iíll do that fight, and I ainít going to say it to her, but I guarantee she has never fought anybody like me and it will be the hardest fight of her entire life.
ESB: Yeah, and, I mean, she is one of the few female fighters in this weight range who I hear talked about a little bit. So a Wolfe Ragosina fight would definitely be meaningful to boxing.
Wolfe: Sure and if they are ready, now that I know who you are talking about, Iíll tell my people to start looking into that. Donít ask for no million dollars, though.
ESB: Only thing is you might have to fight her in Germany. Would you agree to it?
Wolfe: Iíll fight anywhere, only thing is they might have to pay me extra to go all the way over there. Of course, she might get extra money if she came all the way over here. Also I mean Iím Anne Wolfe so Iím not going to just ignore that if they want me to go over there. Maybe we can meet in a neutral spot or something.
ESB: Well, also, you might be cautious with the judging over there.
Wolfe: Well not really cause like I said when I fight Iím trying to knock something off you so I donít concentrate on the judges. Iíve seen a lot of bad judging, even here during these golden gloves, but what can you do if you know you won, you won. If I know I won then it doesnít matter what the official result is cause I know she will have some problems after the fight. Also, I mean, after that people will say, ďI donít want to see that,Ē so you wonít be able to just cheat me like that.
ESB: Who are your favorite male fighters of past and present?
Wolfe: Sugar Ray Robinson hands down. Now I like Glen Johnson, I like Winky Wright cause they were nice to me when we met, even James Toney who has a reputation.
ESB: Tell us about your childhood?
Wolfe: My childhood was horrible. My mama died my daddy died when I was 18, I was homeless, and then I lived in a house with no running water, no heat. I had a hard childhood. Had to cut wood, hard work, my whole life everybody picked on me, and it was horrifying.
ESB: Let me ask you this cause I spoke to another fighter, Vasily Jirov, who had a hard childhood and he said he would never trade it off because that is what made him the fighter who he is.
Wolfe: I would never trade it off either, cause that is what made me a better mother, better person, and a better human being.
ESB: Can you tell us about your trainer Donald Billingsley?
Wolfe: My trainer has always been like my daddy, heís the only daddy Iíve ever known. My father was a murderer, and a drug dealer he still loved me but that doesnít change what he did. My coach never threw me out of the gym and he loves the good and the bad about me and that is what I try to pass on to the kids I train.
All of us in boxing have our good and our bad qualities, but he took the good and the bad with me and never gave me any less attention. Same is true with me. I got a kid who has 18 losses with 1 win but has a ton of heart, then I got a kid with a 10-0 who has beaten some 40+ fighters but I donít treat them no different. How can I? My trainer did the same for me.
ESB: Can you tell us about your family?
Wolfe: Well I got two girls 14 and 16 and I love them very much and that is the best thing about my life. I would never fight again if it came down to it. You know I wonít be fighting much longer, cause I had surgery on my shoulder a year ago, and I will have to have another one in April or May, cause my body is breaking down cause Iím 36-years-old and my body is breaking down.
My daughter is in the 10th grade and she got two years to go and so my main goal right now is to see her through that. You know I done missed a lot of things in my kids life with boxing, but I made sure they had everything and I took care of them better and I made sure they had enough to eat and got their stuff because of the boxing.
ESB: What do you like to do in your free time when or if you have any?
Wolfe: I donít have any. I take the worst boxers that you can find off the street, and I take the worst kids-armed robbery, possession- and I train them to be real fighters and then I raise my kids. See one thing about me is, Iím a natural born killer, a natural aggressive person who likes to fight, and I like to channel that into something positive. On the other hand, Iím also mild mannered, and sweet, and I use that to teach my fighters, and my children to be gentle and sweet, and I could take a killer and make him into a polite and gentle person, and make him say, ďYes sir, No Sir,Ē but when they get in the ring that is where they gotta fight. So boxing keeps me and them grounded. So I am getting to a point now where I canít fight as much, move as much, because my body is breaking down, but I can still help a kid that went through what I went through, and thatís what makes me.
You know, I have not made a lot of money in boxing, havenít gotten a lot of fame in boxing, so when you fight Anne Wolfe, you ainít fightin somebody who has been spoiled by money and popularity. You ainít just fighting my body, or a boxer, you fighting my being, my spirit, my heart and my soul, and that is what I am trying to pass on to my fighters and my children.
ESB:What do you want to say in closing to the people who will check out this interview?
Wolfe: We canít be boxers without all our opponents. ďYou are only as good as your makers.Ē Every girl that puts on gloves makes boxing. How can you be # 1 out of 100 if there is no 100? I have a strong belief in God, and I have a strong belief in and want all the girls to know that whoever wants a shot at me Iíll do my best to make the fight fair and to make it happen. They might not make a lot of money, but if they are boxing me, itís because they want to prove they are real fighters.
ESB: Thanks a great deal for your time and good luck.
Wolfe: Thank you, sir.
I want to thank Anne for her time, and generosity, considering how busy she is in giving it to other people. Hopefully, this will go a little ways in proving to Laila Ali and her people that fans arenít impartial or indifferent to seeing a Wolfe vs. Ali match, and if she wants to prove something she doesnít have to search long and hard for a challenge and an approval rating.
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