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Old Coot….. That’s what happens when you time an aggressive right hook that missed short with a perfect counter. You get lucky. Archie Moore timed a Marciano right the same way with the same counter. He got a small piece of Rocky’s chin.. Marquez nearly blew his shoulder out because he got ALL OF IT!!! … It’s like when you hit a 500 yard golf shot and it bounces for another 100 yards and goes straight in the hole—for the 3rd longest hole-in-one in golf history.. It’s not like you planned it that way—but you’ll take it..

Unfortunately you were playing a practice round of golf by yourself when it happened.. Marquez was so stunned because the whole world was watching.. That’s the best.

Posted January 15, 2013 4:55 pm 


Blah blah blah….I am sick of this nonsense Pacman was dominating Marquez….fact is he got Ko’d. Get over it, he lost and nothing will change that! There are fighters who have dominated the fight and then lose on the last round via KO…all those rounds make no difference…

Posted January 14, 2013 4:16 am 

Old Coot

Losing my ass… More like a lucky shot… Pacquiao was kicking Marquez ass better than ever!… Marquez simply got lucky throwing another one of his instinctive counter punches that landed flush, when the now overconfident and increasingly careless Pacquiao was coming forward to attack Marquez himself. Want proof… Just watch this fight with the sound off and and then watch their first three fights and for added measure, then watch the Pacquiao VS Hatton fight the same way. Again, The Pacman was CLEARLY kicking Marquez’ ass this time. Now in slo-mo watch Marquez’ gape mouthed reaction when Pac went down… COMPLETE and utter surprise that he’d even landed so well!… Totally unlike when Pacquiao clearly intentionally timed Hatton’s KO and then unfazed, calmly trotted to a neutral corner.

Posted January 13, 2013 6:36 pm 

te tumbo

if Canelo actually does confirm the Mayweather matchup, Pacquiao* should target Guerrero himself. it’s an intriguing matchup that would test both fighter’s claims to welter prominence. if Pacquiao* is in preservation mode, he should simply rest, recover, and wait until the dust settles to confirm a bout in September and maybe use the time to FInally add additional wrinkle to his game because his notorious southpaw 1-2 is a now a frayed, well-read, and dog-eared book.

Posted January 12, 2013 10:27 pm 

te tumbo

TARK, i would add Hearns’ KOs over Cuevas and Duran to that list. Pipino never recovered but nothing could stop Duran from continuing to lace-up the gloves. however, Duran was never a great welter or middle anyway. just an old and stubborn warhorse who could give the bigger boys a run for the money and sometimes more.

Posted January 12, 2013 10:19 pm 


He hardly kicked his ass mike he couldn’t even wobble him lol…but I had it 116-112 pac easily ill give ya poor judging but if ya ask me karma got him for the robbery over marquez 3

Posted January 12, 2013 7:49 pm 


I hate how people are still saying he lost his last two fights, he kicked Tim Bradleys ass, reguardless of what two retarded judges said.

Posted January 12, 2013 7:20 pm 

Old Coot

Pacquiao didn’t really “lose” the last two fights in the literal sense… He clearly got robbed against Bradley, and most fans agree that up until becoming over-confident and getting carelessly KO’d with Marquez’ lucky overhand right at the end of the sixth, Pacquiao was looking better against, and was winning more convincingly over Marquez, than he had in the first halves of any of their three previous fights. Especially the third one.

Posted January 12, 2013 5:22 pm 


TJ, You said it right.

Posted January 12, 2013 2:27 pm 


Pacquiao has been undergoing a lot of tests… He’s not going to fight unless his is neurologically fit. This was his first stoppage loss from head shots but it was a crusher. He crashed headlong into the canvas and was out for a few minutes. It was like the 1st Ingemar Johannson, Mike Quarry, John Tate, Augie Sanchez, the 2nd Roy Jones, and the Paul Williams KO’s. Those are the worst one shot KOs I remember among guys defending or competing for a world title. They were all out for several minutes.

Only Roy Jones fared well after his crushing defeat … Not that he fared so well but he beat a couple of known fighters. He always sounds like he has a cold when he talks.

Posted January 12, 2013 12:47 pm 


IF MANNY PACQUIAO boxes in April after such a heavy concussion, then he is more of a fool than I thought he was…..

He shouldn’t even go near a boxing gym for at least 4 months let alone be in camp taking punches for a real professional boxing bout….

No doubt, he WILL suffer some sort of damage post-career after tough bouts with the likes of El Terrible, Dinamita and Cotto and 60 odd professional bouts with his style of come forward, take a few to give a few fighting, but to knowingly put yourself in harm’s way so soon after such a KO defeat is foolhardy to say the least and can do nothing but damage the game if something goes wrong!!!!

Chris Eubank was never the same fighter after his bout with Michael Watson (who ended up in a coma and nearly died – we all know thankfully he is doing okay now, considering what traumas he went through), he could no longer pull the trigger against guys he would have hammered prior to Watson II…..

IMHO Pacman will consider himself lucky if he finishes his career without suffering another stunning KO defeat and with his general health intact, but stories like his genuinely do not end with a happy ending…..

I used to wonder why EDWIN VALERO (RIP) was not allowed to box in the US (except for that dubious state of Texas – where anything seems to go) after he had a motorbike smash, which resulted in anomalies in his brain scans, and I now praise the authorities for not allowing him to box…. No one will ever convince me that his tragic and infamous demise was not influenced by the damage he received to his brain in that bike accident, although he was rumoured to have both drink and drug problems……

To box in April he will need a training camp of at least 8 weeks, which will mean Pac will be taking punches as early as February, about 8 weeks after his damaging KO…..

A man’s worth is not in how much money he makes but in knowing when to fight and when to walk away…..

Posted January 12, 2013 11:09 am 


Pacqiuao has beaten a string of shot fighters the last few years. Mosley, Margarito, De La Hoya. That’s why he insists his opponents weight drain, so as to lose energy and win easily. He never fought the guys I’ve mentioned in their prime. And people still think he would beat Mayweather?! Haha. Pacman will be milked until he suffers permanent damage. The signs are there for him to retire. The way his reflexes have slowed, the twitches, the way he hit the canvas. The signs are there. The only people stupid enough not to see that are Pac’s die hard mentalist fans, or Top Rank.

Posted January 12, 2013 10:24 am 


Arum is a real Jew, he will try to milk this guy dry.His,Pac`s,health is secondary right now for that vampire.

Posted January 12, 2013 8:32 am 


milked like the teat of a cow would be a good expression of how Arum treats Pac.

Posted January 12, 2013 5:52 am 


“And Manny should beat him down in a few rounds.” No, Paulie won’t let that happen. He’ll do his best to box and keep his distance, holding Pacquiao off with steady jabs and quick footwork. But Pac will still beat him.

Posted January 12, 2013 1:15 am 


Its sad how these fighters are exploited, I think in the end manny will end up broke and discombobulated like so many other fighters who stayed in the ring too long.. like ALI all Arum care about is money thats why he made Manny turn down 30 mil to fight Mayweather, Manny in the end will wind up broke, he couldnt retire if he wanted to, His skills have taken a serious decline its just that everyone around him is telling him to continue like Marquez got lucky…

Posted January 12, 2013 12:12 am 

It’s me, the moron

You right TARK Malignaggi is the perfect fit for Pacquiao after his knockout, and the 24/7 should be interesting; the Magic Man can talk too and he’s from Brookling; another interesting thing

Posted January 11, 2013 7:08 pm 


First of all if you fight in a place like Singapore or Dubai and you are Arum you want to keep the revenues as high as possible to complement the fact that you and your fighter are making a much higher net profit because of the lower tax rate.
To do so you MUST have a decent or strong fighter. in NAME at least.
Bradley is enticing in ranking, belt, and name value, plus because it’s a rematch to regain a fight Pac-Man lost ONLY on bad judging. That caught everyone by suprise… Bradley would retake the same $5 mill or whatever he got before plus the tax savings incentive especially because nobody else pays him this $ and he’s had a long layoff.. Mayeather isn’t fighting him any time soon.
Rios is also a great matchup on paper and if it happens it’s great timing for both fighters.
It’s pretty dumb to offer up a mediocre opponent to a Top 5 unless Arum drops ringside tickets to the $200-$400 levels of most other championship fighters…
expect a big name opponent or at least a B+ opponent
You don’t drop the ticket prices, to make up for a mediocre opponent just to sell a place out. Without the big name opponent you won’t sell a place out if TICKET PRICES STAY 1,500USD for ringside….
Do the MATH- Arum does and a believe he’s a Harvard grad….

Posted January 11, 2013 5:55 pm 


Rios would catch Pacman and that would solidify a Pacman retirement … Pacman leaving the U.S. , he’s leaving into the sunset, or sunrise…

Posted January 11, 2013 5:27 pm 


I think Manny should call it a career thank you for the caught weight fights and lets move on! I feel bad for him but Marquez really soften him up and Arum is a jerk for messing up the MAyweather vs MAnny fight! I really dislike Arum so much for that move!

Posted January 11, 2013 5:06 pm 


…would beat’im again.

Posted January 11, 2013 4:49 pm 


He’d take Rios out in 2 or 3 rounds but Bradley would beating again.

Posted January 11, 2013 4:49 pm 


He looked good against Margarito and had good moments in Bradley and Mosley..

Posted January 11, 2013 4:15 pm 


Hey LOOK!! LOOK!! at how I schooled SNONREADINGMOND on the “Match-Ups I Want to See” thread HAHAHAHAH!!

Posted January 11, 2013 3:46 pm 

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