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Why not make it like in the world series between these two?…whoever wins FOUR out of SEVEN is the real champ!!

Posted December 13, 2012 3:33 pm 


We need a MarPeds vs Pedquiao no holds barred 5th fight where each can oppenly use as much Steriods as their Bodies can handle.. Both guys have been Juicin for years… so why not just let them Juice up to their hearts content and let them go at it.. Battle of the Peds Bots..

Posted December 13, 2012 10:44 am 


Agreed,i don’t why some people were saying that Marquez was broken,wobbled and was close to being finished?!! Marquez was stunned in all of the previous fights but that didn’t mean he was finished by any stretch. There is no quit in this man and there was no way he was going to let Pacman stop him

Posted December 13, 2012 1:37 am 


Marquez finally got his due,he deserved victory in all their previous fights and was robbed. Lets give him credit for training hard and building strength to see if he can score a KO, instead of leaving it to the judges who most likely would have robbed him again had it gone the distance! He left no doubt he is the better fighter of the two and his victory is legit until proven otherwise.

Posted December 13, 2012 1:31 am 


Just like Manny (as small as he is) raised questions when he went up many weight classes, destroyed stronger fighters and refused testing. That definitely comes into question!

Posted December 13, 2012 1:09 am 


ATleast Manny got a tast of his own medicine and found out what it’s like to go up against a fighter loaded to the Gills with PEDS…

Posted December 12, 2012 11:39 pm 

B Red

Marquez has surpassed The great JCC and is ranked second only to one of my alltime favorites, one of the greatest fighters of all time Salvador Sanchez

Posted December 12, 2012 11:20 pm 


I have always said that Pacquiao doesn’t take PEDs and I refuse to believe the same about Marquez. Until proven otherwise I am not going to start labeling boxing’s best and brightest as “juicers” just because some buffoon and his crackhead uncle tell me I should. Anyone who does is only hurting the sport they claim to love. Marquez knocked Pacquiao out by skill and dedication alone. It was an epic and dramatic fight. Probably one of the most historically significant fights that I would have watched when I am in my twilight years, and Iam just glad to have been there to witness it. To the pacquioP fans: 90% of you people are just plain annoying when it comes to boxing.

Posted December 12, 2012 10:11 pm 


Floyd is a juicer too.

Posted December 12, 2012 8:31 pm 


Good Article.

Posted December 12, 2012 7:58 pm 


Angle Heredia = Marion Jones winning = Marion medals taken away from PEDS = Angel Heredia = JMM = winning = PEDS from Angel Heredia = fraud !

Posted December 12, 2012 4:46 pm 


If you can drink your own smelly disgusting urine to get an edge there is nothing you woudn’t do to get an edge… aka Cheating is a no brainer..

Posted December 12, 2012 3:55 pm 


Paquiao needs to drink some of Marquez PEDs filled Urine next time…

Posted December 12, 2012 3:50 pm 


Most fighters halt their attack when Manny feints. Marquez knows Manny too much that’s the difference. Manny was feinting well early and Marquez figured it out like a Math problem. Peds or no Peds you need boxing intelligence to beat Pacquiao.

Posted December 12, 2012 3:32 pm 


The right hand has always been Whack-man’s weakest point,Marquez knows this all too well,whether is in the form of a straight,hook,overhead,and he’s been able to exploit this weakness to the hilt;just watch all 4 previous fights and you’ll see what i mean.Whack-man will always have trouble with good counter-punchers;he fares better against brawlers or fighters that go after him.

Posted December 12, 2012 3:17 pm 

ruben castro

I think its crazy how all of a suddn marquez knock out manny and now everyone wants to say hes on peds…the man is dedicated to his craft he is set ahout his work id even say not serious than pacman it was said that marquez true for about four months for this fight, he lived breathed ate and slept thinking about how he would beat pack and he finally did it. Can u imagine he followed this guy for 8 years. . Of course he wanted to end this and not have any chances at all of been robbed he played it smart and krpt it cool when he was hurt and set up his trip and he beat manny by using not only his strength and speed but by using his ring smarts , I think both fighters are great and I am personally a fan of marquez honestly think joe went in their to knock his head off in the fashion that he dud because like most others he felt he was robbed in the third fight.

Posted December 12, 2012 2:16 pm 


Pac Man has been a class act in defeat… How many fighters have we seen refuse interviews, make excuses or allegations when they get beat… Juanma Lopez was crying because he let a warhorse like Salido stop him TWICE….Pac wins like a Champ and he lost like one….Besides what would he say?? Guys have tried to discredit almost ALL of his wins even though he has pretty much been the smaller fighter for years….The onlly think that matters in the ring is results and during this last contest Marquez dominance cannot be questioned when you leave an ELITE Top 2 P4P fighter flat on his face unable to move…

Posted December 12, 2012 1:46 pm 


Do you feel the same way about Nonito Donaire working with Victor Conte?

Posted December 12, 2012 11:41 am 

Ray Ray

Anonymous, get over it. Build a bridge. Move on. We have all heard ur point 4 about the 50th time, we get it. U love manny, ur a fan. Well done move on. Manny isn’t making excuses y r u? It’s a bit rich a Pacquio fan crying foul. Manny isn’t. He has been nothing but classy, u should do the same. Let it go, he will fight again.

Posted December 12, 2012 7:00 am 



Posted December 12, 2012 5:50 am 


First I have to say that this was a great fight between to of the greatest in boxing history. And second how can u discredit Marquez knockout win. Let me tell u Wat the difference was; Marquez and pacquiao were in here to knock each other out it was bound to happen. Marquez recuperate power has always been one of the best. He always comes back when he is hurt.

Posted December 12, 2012 1:37 am 

Big Rich

Look im I’m a realist… I’m not saying Marquez did not deserve to win, he deserved it and look regardless of whether he was clean or not the fact that Manny walked onto the punch means that he would have been KO’d whatever… It is the fact he was so heavy handed, in a fashion we haven’t seen before at this weight, it raises questions… Like i said manny walked on to the punch full stop

Posted December 12, 2012 12:48 am 


there are a lot of whining ass titty babies here, thats all, don’t worry about the drugs.

Posted December 12, 2012 12:40 am 

te tumbo

how can anyone who saw Marquez v. Diaz I doubt the potency of Marquez’s punches? his nickname is “Dinamita”(?!) and has been his whole career during which he’s been Socking dudes silly the entire time. he states that he’s focused on developing explosive punching power and transparently does so for at-Least the last four months. although, i’ve heard him say that he never really stopped training following the last Pacquiao* bout. that’s an entire year of smoldering intent. he may never be this fighting-fit again but considering the context of this bout, why is anybody surprised that Marquez prepared and executed like a ring-warrior on a mission? or to quote ESB Blogger and Manny partisan Reni M. Valenzuela, “why?-Why?-WHYYY?!?” . . . (lol) . . . :twisted:

Posted December 12, 2012 12:08 am 

Big Rich

Agreed James Barcelona! Marquez was seriously heavy handed… The likes of which we have not seen before… Innocent until proven guilty though, also if he was on PEDs he is with a known administer of PEDs, so may know how to pass those simple tests. If something is too good to be true it usually is!!! a 39 year old building muscle like we haven’t seen before whose main physical trainer is a known PED administer. This is coming from someone who is a boxing fan a fan of JMM and Pac and Mayweather etc…

Posted December 11, 2012 10:02 pm 


Pac and amir khan were never shown how to defend. Brilliant attackers but poor ring iq. Marquez deserves to be rated higher than either by history.

Posted December 11, 2012 6:23 pm 

John Real madrid


Posted December 11, 2012 3:18 pm 


He hit him while he was off balance and lunging forward. In plain terms he walked into a right hand. That’s how Hussein KD Pacquiao with a jab. Imagine what a full punch can do.

Posted December 11, 2012 3:09 pm 

The Mad Scientist

Marquez has always been able to stun Manny throught out their fights so why is everybody acting all surprised of the outcome now that Manny got ktfo cold for not being defensively resposible like he has in their previous fights pulling back on his punches and not taking many risks himself..both men went all out in this 4th fight after the 3rd round knock down and the better man won, end of story.

Posted December 11, 2012 2:46 pm 


The Mad Scientist – Exactly! In their previous 3 fights, Marquez worried about being stopped…which is why he didn’t ‘press’ the action. This time around, Marquez had NO FEAR and was ready to stand and fight, knowing he was smarter lead him to victory.

Posted December 11, 2012 2:42 pm 


james barcelona – So, a man who some/most say won ALL 3 fights, finally does what HAD to do to “win” and there’s doubt as to how the victory was achieved?? He knew he had to stop Pacquiao, and Pacquiao felt he had to do the same to Marquez….Who’s the smarter fighter? Marquez. Who’s the more skilled fighter? Marquez. Who’s the better counter puncher? Marquez. Who has better timing? Marquez. C’mon! ALL those attributes combined can conquer speed and power….Marquez proved that.

Posted December 11, 2012 2:38 pm 

The Mad Scientist

After being knocked hard on his ass in the 3rd round Pacquiao felt Marquez wasn’t even gonna play aroung this time thus causing Manny to go out on his was kill or be killed from that point on and as titopa mentioned the more skilled and smarter fighter won by PED’s or lucky punch needed for that outcome, Marquez wasn’t gonna be denied that night and he proved by standing his ground and staying composed through a broken nose and weathering the Pacquiao storm..Dinamita’s refusal to lose that night is what caused Manny to get careless to try to end of fight before Marquez can hurt him again and Boom!

Posted December 11, 2012 2:35 pm 


james barcelona – Look at how it was thrown….first, Marquez feinted with a left to the body and the right hand followed, it was thrown with power and targeted to land AROUND Pacquiao’s guard…it landed FLUSH. Pacquiao NEVER saw it coming.

Posted December 11, 2012 2:33 pm 


Watch the fight again. Even when Pacquiao ‘dropped’ Marquez and had him hurt, Marquez STILL landed vicious right hands that made Pacquiao rethink his aggressiveness. Even in the rounds Marquez lost, he had moral victories with taking Manny’s hard shots and still managing to land his own.

Posted December 11, 2012 2:29 pm 


I picked Marquez to win via TKO…I felt this time around, he would press more often and so would Pacquiao, leaving only one outcome….the smarter more skilled fighter would win via KO….that man, being Marquez.

Posted December 11, 2012 2:25 pm 

It’s Me, Ernie

Agree, retirement before irreversible damage occurs.

Posted December 11, 2012 2:21 pm 

The Kingslayer

Marquez has however hurt and wobbled Manny in those previous fights.

Posted December 11, 2012 2:16 pm 

The Kingslayer

I hope both guys retire now.

Posted December 11, 2012 2:06 pm 

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