Jake Lead Rights
Xavier – Yes I faught as an amateur, my heart was bigger than my game. . I apologize for coming off so crass. Your description of your brothers lack of motivation and desire is probably what made him look disinterested. To me he appeared to be lackadaisical, as mentioned no disrespect I just felt that he had so much more to give and didn’t perform to his full potential. I don’t care to judge a person you never know what a person is going through until you step into their shoes. So if your bother was fighting some demons then that would explain a lot.Posted September 5, 2014 2:28 pm
TARK, Tim Witherspoon was interviewed recently on British TV, I think by Gary Newbon and he alluded that he ‘threw’ the Bonecrusher Smith II fight, when he was stopped in less than a round, allegedly pressure was put on him by a certain promoter… I will watch the telecast again and get his exact comments and what he also said about Larry Holmes.
It’s really interesting that we are getting lots of TV time now with the fighters from yesteryear, although like anything in life some comments may be said tongue-in-cheek… I’ll get the title of the show and let you know as he goes into his early career and where he trained and sparred and his old trainers etc. etc….Posted September 5, 2014 2:26 pm
“Tyrell fought Tyson,did you that,that was the last 15 rounder on record,and Tyrell was only 15-0 while Tyson I believe was 32-0….now don’t get me wrong,I know brother was dealing with some serious issues and I knew his desire as a professional was not where a world Champion should’ve been,but I was with him all through his professional career,and I never detected any phobias connected to the sport,I just detected a lack motivation and desire sometimes,because he was a very sensitive man,and was easily bothered and sometimes discouraged…” – Interesting insights from Xavier. I always suspected a lack of motivation and fire. After the Tyson loss he kept fighting but seemed to be going through the motions.Posted September 5, 2014 12:58 pm
Holmes would get into such an intense mental state that he would occasionally assault an opponent outside the ring, if he thought he said something, shouldered him, or insulted him – the most famous case being Trevor Berbick.
It’s like he was saying, “I’m the undefeated Heavyweight Champion of the World, and nobody fuks with me. Get it?” If he gave you that “Larry look” you could be in trouble. Fortunately, he mellowed out.Posted September 5, 2014 12:02 pm
TARK, you probably know about the story of Holmes and Witherspoon on the morning or night before their fight when they ran into each other at a hotel. I can’t remember the details, but off of that meeting Terrible Tim said he was convinced he could beat Larry and fought a great fight!Posted September 5, 2014 9:38 am
An Olympic Gold Medal winner in the Super Heavyweight Division, such as Tyrell Biggs, is worth millions—purely from a business and investment standpoint. But how that asset is managed is critical. You can manage and match that asset extremely well—or you can do a poor job and degrade that asset.
Let’s say you invested a million dollars with Warren Buffett and he turned it into $300 million. On the other hand, say you hired a broker with now bankrupt Lehman Brothers, and he turned your million dollars into $52,000, much of it going for his fees and commissions.
This scenario happens to both investors and boxers. You can do a lot with a little—or you can start with a lot and end up with very little.Posted September 5, 2014 1:38 am
Thanks for the response Xavier!! What you said as far as the business side is how I’ve seen a few pros who I knew, one even a WBC and WBA champ go through. Unfortunately for them its all “what if” now. As an ex Olympic Gold Medalist from the 84 team there must had a bunch of “what ifs”. Meaning managerial side of it, the pressure to win a world title and all the hanger onners who want a part of your fame. The one thing I remember about that team though was how they all came to each others fights as pros early on. Good Stuff! I remember when Holyfield fought Quawi and that was a great fight and your brother was cheering on Evander ringside throughout the fight. Thanks for the memories and big ups to our Olympic Champ. Tyrell Biggs.Posted September 4, 2014 11:18 pm
Dumb fight for Biggs. He was too green for a title shotPosted September 4, 2014 10:54 pm
From the third round on mike said he knew he could knock him out. So he carried him to make him eat his words. Mike said after the fight that he wanted biggs to remember this night for a looong time. Biggs earned his money that night THE HARD WAY….PAINFULPosted September 4, 2014 7:11 pm
“you obviously don’t have a smell of amateur boxing so rest your case boy!”You catch on quick Suarez. That’s exactly what I thought of you.Posted September 4, 2014 5:53 pm
TJ, it isn’t so bad when a more experienced opponent isn’t so strong or punches so hard.. Tim Witherspoon only had 15 pro fights when he was matched with Larry Holmes.. Witherspoon probably fought the best fight of his life, but Holmes wasn’t strong and he didn’t smash big guys flat.
Tyson was a really strong guy. So was were Bowe and Lewis. After a few dudes like that bomb you out – you’re lucky if people don’t peg you for a boxer two minutes into a conversation.
Before you match a kid with a big strong puncher, he has to have a lot of experience and be super solid defensively.Posted September 4, 2014 3:12 pm
Great write up…
Your write up has brought back some great memories for me re the Duvas, Russell Peltz and the Olympians of 1984. That’s really what got me hooked on boxing..
I hope you can write some more stuff on here.Posted September 4, 2014 2:49 pm
GREAT POST TARK,
“Iron mike said he felt like he became olympic champion when he kod biggs. There was a lot of bad blood between the two because biggs had dissed tyson when mike was an amateur and left off the olympic team.” – True. It also seemed clear that Mike was prolonging the beating before finishing off Briggs. I felt bad for him.Posted September 4, 2014 2:31 pm
Whats Tyrell upto these days? Hope his well.Posted September 4, 2014 9:44 am
Great article Xavier..,
Your brother had amazing height, reach, and athletic gifts. I was certain he was going to be Heavyweight Champion. The Tillis, Sims, and Snipes matchups were good. But the Tyson fight??? I thought “OH NO NO NO NO NO…WAY too early.” Tyrell was one of my favorites and I thought they were daft putting him in with Tyson at that point. Tyrell was coming along so nicely too…
Then they followed with the Damiani and Mason fights… Excuse me buds. Don’t put a kid in losing situations back to back to back. Then later the Bowe fight was so brutal, and who’s the next guy they have Tyrell fight? Who else? Lennox Lewis
That’s shooting yourself in the foot.
Cus D’Amato said boxing is 70% matchmaking… getting a kid lots of fights and the right fights…at the right times. That’s so true.
Another thing bothered me. Tyrell was a big strong guy, but as I watched fights like the Bowe fight, he needed more strength. Bowe was hurt really bad in the 4th and Tyrell didn’t have the strength to just smash him out. Later when Bowe hurt Tyrell he crushed him. Tyrell needed a great strength training specialist which would have made the difference a fight like that.
Tyrell was the better boxer, but that’s what happens with modern heavyweights. You need that brutal strength to finish big dudes off… Frazier had ZERO chance with Foreman.Posted September 4, 2014 3:44 am
Really well written and articulate excerpt.
Mr 1 2…you seem like a wise boxing purist….to answer your question,no it wasn’t the amount of rounds….when you turn pro from the amateurs.it becomes more of a business.and things can start to get distasteful.and rub the sensitive ones the wrong way…and if you don’t have an extraordinary desire to be champion that can help you endure the riff-raff.the common effect will be discouragement….God blessed Tyrell with the victory of being the first Superheavyweight Gold Medal Champion in history…and he is content with that.Posted September 3, 2014 10:59 pm
Damiani was a boxer not a brawler. Watch the Mercer fight.Posted September 3, 2014 10:26 pm
I remember it like yesterday ,tyrel bigs got a 3- 2 decision against aziz salihu that actually should have been the opposite decision but since the Olympic Games were being held in Los Angeles bigs got a favor there …
Salihu use to beat damiani all the timePosted September 3, 2014 9:30 pm
Iron mike said he felt like he became olympic champion when he kod biggs. There was a lot of bad blood between the two because biggs had dissed tyson when mike was an amateur and left off the olympic team. That was a tremendous fight. Tyrell biggs showed soooo much heart in that fight. No way he was fighting scaredPosted September 3, 2014 7:13 pm
Xavier, if I can jump in. You bring up a lot answers about your brother which I thought were the case, like not motivated. I saw Tyrell fight before the Olympics and as an amateur, he was a natural. Kind of like Greg Page who was a stud as an amateur. But in the pros (and I remember the fight with the shoulder) he didn’t show the same hunger as an amateur. Was this cause of 3 rounds to 4-12? Thanks in advancePosted September 3, 2014 6:31 pm
Hi,this comment is for Mr Jake Lead Right…I appreciate your comments and opinion,and it is a great opportunity for fans to learn more facts about this intriguing sport and its history…I must say though,I rarely respond to comments about my brother ‘Tyrell’,because most people will only see it as a biased reaction,because of the sensitivity due to it being a family member,but most people that know me personally will agree that I’m realistic,and probably will be more critical towards my brother,if it was a reason to be,and I wouldn’t make a comment unless I was confident that the facts and history will be crystal clear to allow the truth to manifest itself…now about this comment about’Tyrell always fighting scared’…Sir,please do your homework,and study every fight,but especially pay attention to the fight when Tyrell fought James’Quick’Tillis when Tyrell only had 6 professional fights,and Tillis had over 25 professional fights,and fought for the world title already…and Tyrell outfought and out brawled him in Tyrell’s first 8 rounder…and keep in mind,that fight influenced Tyson’s management to break thier bum of the month streak and take on a real top contender who was of course ‘Quick’Tillis,and Tillis was the first to take Tyson the distance.and a lot of people thought Tillis actually won,also don’t forget when Tyrell,with only 8 professional fights took on the pugilistic nightmare’jeff Sims’a brutal knockout puncher with an extreme thirst for blood.that had about 25 fights,which about 23 of them were ‘fall face first kos’of some top ten boxers and up and coming hopefuls….and during the second round of this 10 rounder(which was Tyrell’s first 10 rounder) Sims crushed Tyrell’s right shoulder bone with a sledgehammer right hand…which gave Tyrell an easy excuse to bow out of the rumble with this excruciating punching madman,but Tyrell chose to stick it out and out battle Sims with just one hand and actually took the fight to him,the last 3 rounds handicapped with just a left hand and actually won the fight.and ,with all due respect,Tyson’s management decided not to go down that street…the Tyson,Sims fight was never made.and you must recall the David Bey fight,whom HBO’s Larry Merchant called a Philly Brawl in Vegas,when Bey opened a hideous cut over Tyrell’s eye,that was so deep,it seemed as Lou Duvall put his whole fist inside as he was trying desperately to smear vasoline over it….and Tyrell came out in the six round to KO Bey,with a controlled ‘surgeon like’body head,body feint,back to the head combination.and before that fight Tyrell went to the big strong and awkward Renaldo Snipes’ hometown of NY and took the fight to him for ten rounds,and came out with a hard fought decision win….and they were also two Heavyweights Tyson’s decided to steer clear of…and last,but not least,when Tyrell fought Tyson,did you that,that was the last 15 rounder on record,and Tyrell was only 15-0 while Tyson I believe was 32-0….now don’t get me wrong,I know brother was dealing with some serious issues and I knew his desire as a professional was not where a world Champion should’ve been,but I was with him all through his professional career,and I never detected any phobias connected to the sport,I just detected a lack motivation and desire sometimes,because he was a very sensitive man,and was easily bothered and sometimes discouraged….But when he did feel like stepping to the plate,he never disappointed and he did it well…and any one that steps into that square ring and establish any level of a career,has definitely mastered or conquered fear…and you should know bravery is only the will to overcome fear,when motivated and all sane humans have fear…and because you raised this issue,it makes me wonder if you ever had experience inside of the ring…Mr Lead Right.Posted September 3, 2014 5:50 pm
Cool to read a family member’s perspective on Biggs’ amateur gold. It’s too bad he fizzled out in the pros.Posted September 3, 2014 5:12 pm
remember tyson v briggs where inbetween rounds briggs said” my legs have gone ” and the trainer says ” go toe to toe ” good advice i must say, still brings back memories .Posted September 3, 2014 4:15 pm
Jake Lead Rights
No offense to Xavier but i was never impressed with Tyrell. He always looked scared and he was a shell when he fought Tyson. Very happy for the 84 team they were awesome and all of them made a huge dent in the sport of boxing but WTF happened to your brother on the Tyson fight. i had read that he was battling drugs and all kinds of crap. Set the story straight.Posted September 3, 2014 1:49 pm
And to comment on Biggs. He was a great amateur but bad timing for him that Tyson was destroying everyone in the era Biggs fought Pro.Posted September 3, 2014 12:54 pm
Suarez- You forget the Holyfield-Barry fight that same year, or RJJ vs the Korean in 88? Those were the real robberies. The funny thing is Barry went on to rob Tua of his money years later as his manager. Yeah Americans are the only corupt ones.Posted September 3, 2014 12:51 pm
Swedish Boxing Fan
It is a nice amateur fight performance from both Tyrell Biggs & Francesco Damiani BUT the truth is that even if Biggs had the nicer movement and a better jab, Damiani made more to win this fight with more effective landing punches.
Although Frencesco Damiani would 4 years later in 1988 get his revenge on Tyrell Biggs in the PRO ring.
The 2 best boxers that came from the 1984 Olympic games would turn out to be Lennox Lewis (1988 Olympic gold medalist) & Evander “The Real Deal” Holyfield and non of them got the gold or silver in this 84 tournament.Posted September 3, 2014 12:36 pm
Damiani’s was a flurry of fast punches. He would throw his hand speed in front of his opponents face. It was intimidating !!!Posted September 3, 2014 11:57 am
Bo Bo Olson
A jab counts as much as a knock down.Posted September 3, 2014 11:39 am
Can you please have a word with your older brother “Shannon”
One thing for sure – Damini wasn’t using any performance enhancing drugs (not that Biggs was either, but he had a much better natural build).Posted September 3, 2014 8:35 am
@hibdeebibdee, and you obviously don’t have a smell of amateur boxing so rest your case boy!Posted September 3, 2014 7:59 am
“Just watch it on youtube to see what I am saying.”
One needs to know and understand amateur/Olympic boxing rules in order to properly judge the fight.Posted September 3, 2014 7:41 am
And to think about he clearly lost that fight but the corrupt American judges robbed the Italian in one of the worse robberies in the history of Olympic Boxing. Just watch it on youtube to see what I am saying. The Italian clearly won all three rounds and especially round 1 and 3 weren’t even close.Posted September 3, 2014 6:11 am
Brazilian Boxing Fan
Awesome!Posted September 3, 2014 6:10 am