I didn’t duck out of the debate BPJ… YOU DIDPosted August 16, 2014 5:07 pm
Address this first… Fully… because you make up BULLSHlT and don’t answer for it.
@ BPJ “Now, addressing your unknowledgeable comments.. Froch DIDN’T have to knock Groves out to win. You obviously CAN’T COUNT because Froch would have overtaken Groves if the 9th round concluded.. TRY to THINK Bill..
But Froch couldn’t AVOID knocking Groves out.
Groves is so easy to punch in the face — a KO loss was inevitable in both fights.”
You always duck the debate after making ignorant comments.Posted August 13, 2014 3:27 pm
Bill Patrice Jones
What’s your traceable name Tark so I can look up your amateur career and running of the gym etc?Posted August 13, 2014 7:02 am
Nope, he’s above that, still a poor attempt at a wind up.Posted August 11, 2014 4:16 pm
Degale is another c level muppet like Tin Tin.Posted August 11, 2014 9:51 am
Degale has put together a string of 9 wins against decent opposition since the Groves ‘loss’ accumulating in a 4th round win over Brandon Gonzales for the IFB title eliminator.
“Degale is unpopular, but the way I see it, he went back to the drawing board after the Groves defeat, learnt some humility and through the school of hard knocks has earnt a shot at a title.” – Who’d he beat to earn a title shot?Posted August 11, 2014 3:28 am
Is this the ssme Groves that was going 2 beat Froch? Less talk more action hey, especially if ur not backing the smack talk up. I have very little repect 4 Groves the way he carried on in both losses 2 Froch.Posted August 10, 2014 11:46 pm
KUPosted August 10, 2014 10:37 pm
I know Degale is unpopular, but the way I see it, he went back to the drawing board after the Groves defeat, learnt some humility and through the school of hard knocks has earnt a shot at a title.
Groves on the other hand seems to still have to recognise his weaknesses.Posted August 10, 2014 4:46 pm
Bill Patrice Jones asks.., “Do you have a great amateur career Tark? Doubt you’ve boxed a round. Groves just didn’t become defensive in the 1st fight when he needed to. He could make a case for not having lost a round until the 8th. Froch had to knock him out to win.”
Here we go again… Let me answer both matters.
Yes. I boxed amateur and pro and knocked out ranking heavyweights.. I’ve also trained hundreds of boxers from sub-novices who had never pulled on a glove when I got them. Some became champions. Some are undefeated pros today and still call me for advice.
Now, addressing your unknowledgeable comments.. Froch DIDN’T have to knock Groves out to win. You obviously CAN’T COUNT because Froch would have overtaken Groves if the 9th round concluded.. TRY to THINK Bill..
But Froch couldn’t AVOID knocking Groves out.
Groves is so easy to punch in the face — a KO loss was inevitable in both fights.Posted August 10, 2014 4:28 pm
pricey will always be on Queer st.Posted August 10, 2014 1:32 pm
David Price touched Maloney.Posted August 10, 2014 1:18 pm
“His only talent is hugging referees…..then blaming them!”
LOLPosted August 10, 2014 8:19 am
Newsflash. Frank maloney is the new Norman Bates.Posted August 10, 2014 7:01 am
Groves is the classic case of a modern average fighter still Trying to get hold of a plastic Belt.Posted August 10, 2014 6:31 am
His only talent is hugging referees…..then blaming themPosted August 10, 2014 4:54 am
Bill Patrice Jones
Do you have a great amateur career Tark? Doubt you’ve boxed a round. Groves just didn’t become defensive in the 1st fight when he needed to. He could make a case for not having lost a round until the 8th. Froch had to knock him out to win if it was scored fairly. Groves over extended himself and got tired and reckless when he didn’t need to. Froch is a much superior ‘fighter’ but Groves is a very talented boxer.Posted August 10, 2014 2:43 am
I meant to say.., “Two cards had Froch ahead but that’s not the whole story… They didn’t score the final round where Froch murdered Groves against the ropes..”Posted August 9, 2014 7:10 pm
Bill Patrice Jones.., “Groves’ best rounds by far were rounds 7 and 8 up until the knockout.”
You don’t know how to score fights dude… From the 5th round on Froch was driving Groves all over the ring… He started earlier in the 2nd fight and was literally beating the piss out of Groves.
Two cards had Groves ahead but that’s not the whole story… They didn’t score the final round where Froch murdered Groves against the ropes..
Groves literally did not have a clue.. No stance.. no footwork.. no clinching skills.. no defense.. He was a disaster looking for a place to happen.
You have no idea what you’re even looking at.Posted August 9, 2014 7:08 pm
The real betting money on Groves is what will happen first: Groves going bald- which he is, fast or: Groves winning a world title.
Groves has brought hatred on himself with his arrogance and harassment of Froch. Not everyone likes Froch but there are very few who do not respect him. Right now Groves is liked by few and respected by fewer, hopefully he sticks to the boxing and can get his career back on track.Posted August 9, 2014 12:02 pm
Groves c level at best,move on.Posted August 9, 2014 10:22 am
BPJ – look knock outs are the sports game changers. That’s why guys who can ko others are so sought after. It doesn’t matter who was winning on cards. That is an argument only nerds would make. Any one who has boxed at any level knows that a ko trumps all the other metrics that you want to obsess over. KOs are the sweetest of victories and nothing speaks louder than a ko. Being up on points in comparison is comparing a tadpole to a frog. Groves got KOd twice after gassing early. Be a man, deal with it.Posted August 9, 2014 8:48 am
Groves,just like haye is a legend in his own mind…if he fights bika he will lose ..to strong and experienced for mr ” I am better than I actually am” groves…boy has a serious chip on his shoulder ..Posted August 9, 2014 7:10 am
Groves just got engaged…..
typo=whingedPosted August 9, 2014 5:39 am
I’ve never liked Groves from the first time he winged about not being picked for the Olympics…..You can wrap it up anyway you like by saying he was winning up until this,that or the other….truth is he got wasted in both fights….But I do have grudging respect for him…..he took Froch back on and quick to and for a mediocre fighter gave Froch a big payday,he sold that fight with trash talk,Froch on the other hand just sulked…..Now he is back up picking another fight,so he’s got game……You might say this is an easy fight, but why not,he deserves it after two tough ones……..Still think he’s crap though……Posted August 9, 2014 5:38 am
Bill Patrice Jones
Groves was down in the second fight on two cards, but he was also shamefully and I mean shamefully on his way to a scorecard robbery the first time aswell. The judges in the first fight had the bout so close it was a JOKE. Groves’ best rounds by far were rounds 7 and 8 up until the knockout. That’s boxing. Froch’s fought at elite level so long people forgot how much one punch power he packs in his shots, it’s that simple. Groves performed better against Froch than many other top level contenders/former champions. This might be the end for Groves but it might not. Problem he faces is simple. He was part of one of the biggest events in British boxing history and was the loser. There’s no way he gets close to anything like that again but still wants to prove himself a world champion and a star in his own right, not just the famous Froch ‘opponent.’ Also never under estimate the dangers of you’re first multi million pound purse!!! Time off, lots to spend, houses cars and restaurants! All the while digesting a painful loss.Posted August 9, 2014 4:17 am
Adolf – it’s not funny. You will bring some trouble to yourself if you keep that up.Posted August 8, 2014 9:32 pm
“Groves is mentioned you immediately think arrogant, conceited, hubris, a bit thick, possibly pyschotic… – LOL.Posted August 8, 2014 5:12 pm
Rusty Bucket. Best post on this site, bar none!Posted August 8, 2014 5:01 pm
Kinda of funny really, as I did’nt like Froch that much, mainly because he never seemed to give Calzaghe any respect, but atleast he has achieved a lot in his own right.
Fight Aficianado, Groves brought the hate on himself. When the name Groves is mentioned you immediately think arrogant, conceited, hubris, a bit thick, possibly pyschotic, slow-witted, Napoleon complex and a right dcikhead, before you even consider his boxing ability. Groves tried to be clever but mugged himself off before the Froch rematch and looked a proper tool stretched out in the ring. He needs to get to the back of the line and beat 3 or 4 good fighters before he even gets another sniff at a title shot.Posted August 8, 2014 4:24 pm
the quote, “groves was a toddler with a loaded diaper.”Posted August 8, 2014 3:50 pm
Froch was winning the fight on 2 cards when he stopped Groves… DON’T LIE and say Groves was winning. GG was running his ass off.
Groves ran like a clueless 4-round fighter.. He was lost.. Froch was starting to waste him – drawing a bead on him.
Like one pundit put it, “Groves fought like a toddler with his Pampers full.”Posted August 8, 2014 3:40 pm
Back in the day the Nearest groves would of got to a real belt would be looking at one in the paper.Posted August 8, 2014 3:33 pm
Okay you’re right. Being KOd after controlling some early rounds isn’t a failure. PAC also didn’t fail in Marq IV. Duran didn’t fail vs. Hearns. Hatton didn’t fail vs Mayweather. Foremen wasn’t rope a doped. He didn’t fail.
Come on now!. A failure may not be the end of the world but is a big D. There’s no sugarcoating Groves mid round KOs. Two in a row agin the same boxer is a give away.Posted August 8, 2014 3:29 pm
B-fighter.Posted August 8, 2014 2:34 pm
“My God the sudden hatred for Groves and the reduction of his abilities is staggering. He was leading the fight when stopped in the rematch. I fear for Groves though for the following reasons. Mentally it’s got to be a huge hurdle to now overcome with back to back losses…” – Agree with Bill. Dudes vilifying Groves for stepping up to top level comp and falling short? Maybe he should’ve gone the DeGale route and smacked around punching bags and drunks? We should give him props for going the tough route, although it’s possible he won’t be the same after that devastating KO. Such a result is why dudes keep cherry picking.Posted August 8, 2014 1:49 pm
Bill Patrice Jones
I don’t see them as necessarily two major failures. No one knows what would have happened in the first fight, and he hurt Froch worse than anyone else in his career has by a long way. He was sensational for the first 7 rounds. The second fight is just boxing. A shot like that and it’s over. Were Nigel Benn’s defeats by Eubank terrible failures? Groves now needs a big name win under his belt to stay relevant for the future. The Froch fights may have been his peak we’ll see by the end of his next 1-2 fightsPosted August 8, 2014 1:45 pm
The same wank stains who wanted Froch beaten to a pulp by George and wanted to suck Groves’ dick are now doing a 180. What a surprise.Posted August 8, 2014 12:41 pm
Boxers get found out in big fights. They measure the man. Groves stock fell deservedly because he floundered mid rounds twice against Froch. People haven’t turned on Groves. They are responding to two very big failures. Groves needs to prove himself again. Then fans may get back on his carriage. But he’s got to be able to fight the full 12. No point in just impressing in early rounds.Posted August 8, 2014 9:04 am
Groves will win!Posted August 8, 2014 8:15 am
Nice biceps. Groves will win this by UD if not by late TKO or devastating KO. I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!Posted August 8, 2014 8:15 am
Bill Patrice Jones
My God the sudden hatred for Groves and the reduction of his abilities is staggering. He was leading the fight when stopped in the rematch. I fear for Groves though for the following reasons. Mentally it’s got to be a huge hurdle to now overcome with back to back losses, both uniquely painful in their own way. His relevancy and fame have taken a big hit because of how devastatingly he lost the second fight. He’s got the luxury and the privilege of his first mega money purse to enjoy before resuming hard training. There’s also not necessarily any logical pathway for Groves to get himself in line for a big star studded event again. Dirrell would make a horrible fight with Groves, and Bika is just a rough tough nasty guy to fight, hard as nails, makes you look bad the whole bad opponent packagePosted August 8, 2014 7:43 am
Groves is a true warrior. I’d like to see him facing Bika-Dirrell 2 winner.Posted August 8, 2014 4:08 am
ZzzzzzzzzzzPosted August 8, 2014 1:32 am
Rematch degalePosted August 8, 2014 12:27 am
only in boxing
It’s only in boxing where a fighter from some rich country drops two title fights in a row with KOs and still gets another minor title fight as an eliminator for a real world title. I love the sweet science but I hate the politics, the promoters and the silly and corrupt and greedy governing bodies!Posted August 8, 2014 12:17 am
looking like a baby with his pants full is good?Posted August 7, 2014 11:50 pm
Froch made him look good by putting him to sleep?Posted August 7, 2014 10:52 pm
Mick the Marmalizer
Oh dear what’s happened to George? His arrogance appear’s to be that of an America wrestler instead of a 100% title challenger @ 168Lb. By berlingers he should had won a Lonsdale belt out-right by now & become EBU champion, but his career has stalled due to bad management & twatism!!…………Posted August 7, 2014 7:19 pm
As for Degale, I thought Groves was lucky to get that result, and fully expect him to lose the rematch, providing it ever comes off.Posted August 7, 2014 6:41 pm
I followed Groves from the word go but he was so arrogant, disrespectful and cocky during the build up to the second froch fight that I have wiped my hands of him. I genuinely hope he gets ko’d and keeps getting ko’d. Froch deserved a tonne of respect and has it from everyone else in his weight class sowhy ccouldn’t groves even recognise this himself? Instead he plays down everything froch has achieved.Posted August 7, 2014 6:38 pm
Bit harsh but true. Groves obviously has a high opinion of himself, and needs to I guess, so that he can continue boxing, but the fact is that so far, his overall performances against Froch have had a worse outcome than those of Dirrel, Taylor, Abraham, and Kessler.
This guy is another over hyped, wannabe, pretender from that stinky little island. He’s been KO’ed twice because he has no chin. He will never ever beat the likes of Bika who is strong, relentless and will continue to pressure no matter what the scoring position of the fight is. Groves thinks he can match it with the guy who gave Calzaghe one of his hardest fights. Not likely. This joker has been exposed to everyone except his own delusional mind. Reminds of the millions of stinky island occupants who think in the present of past glories. Every single one of them are a joke (exception Carl Froch).Posted August 7, 2014 5:56 pm
got to love his ambition. if you look at the long list of quality opponents froch has beat/faced Groves has proved his worth. THe question remains how do u come back from a KO like that in a genuine grudge matchPosted August 7, 2014 4:14 pm
suckface looks as soft and weak as everPosted August 7, 2014 4:14 pm
Froch put him in his place groves ran his mouth froch closed itPosted August 7, 2014 3:53 pm
Ginger boy should do All right in Hamburg. LOL.Posted August 7, 2014 2:38 pm
Very good fighter. Good luck George! He’s right up there with the likes of Abraham, Bika and Dirrell.Posted August 7, 2014 2:00 pm
Too many guys dogging Groves. Fact is he was a top undefeated prospect/contender at 168 until going against Froch twice. He beat that overhyped whatshisname who went bum hunting for the next three years while Groves went for the brass ring.Posted August 7, 2014 1:34 pm
If Groves wins it’ll be a good title fight whether he goes against Bika or Dirrell. I think Dirrell takes the rematch.Posted August 7, 2014 1:32 pm
The fact that Groves, a knockout loser in each of his last two so-called “world” title fights, is in line for yet another shot at a belt is pitiful. He has proven that he is not “world” championship caliber by losing to a very good, but second-best, Carl Froch. Let Groves win 5 fights against ranked competition and then discuss a title shot.Posted August 7, 2014 12:55 pm
keep going son,and you will end up with a plastic belt. David Toe haye.Posted August 7, 2014 12:35 pm
Prof Konje, it was well documented that Groves SCHOOLED BOTH Dirrell boys in sparring. I know sparring is just sparring but it wasnt anywhere near closePosted August 7, 2014 12:17 pm
Gotta love Groves he’s definitely a character. Classy fighter too and I cant wait to see him back in the ring. The two fights with Froch were close which means Groves proved that he’s a class act and a difficult prospect for anyone in the division. This is good for boxing and good for the supermiddleweights.Posted August 7, 2014 11:17 am
Groves third title quest will end in SUCCESS for someone. He will win or lose by decision if not by TKO or devastating KO or DQ or points. I am the greatest PHALLUS ever born!!!!Posted August 7, 2014 11:16 am
No chin No class.move on.Posted August 7, 2014 11:15 am
He’s got an old skool prize fighter’s mentality, a loss is a loss you pick yourself up and fight on, Carl was smart fighting him when he did because he’s still young and can only get better.Posted August 7, 2014 10:57 am
Summer in the north – thanks for that Sherlock.Posted August 7, 2014 10:35 am
It is summer in the northern hemispherePosted August 7, 2014 10:32 am
This fellow groves is known for a good job and strong right. Froch bears witness to that. He is also known by those in the know as a highly strung character with excesses of nervous energy which depletes his reserves. He runs out of gas by mid rounds and will never go the distance against anyone any good. Certain opponents are nightmares for him. Bika would be one as he can be relentless. Don’t know enough abt the Frenchman to say.Posted August 7, 2014 10:28 am
Groves is too pale, he doesn’t look healthy.Posted August 7, 2014 10:26 am
Both Bika and Dirrell are too much for Groves especially Bika. Groves is somewhat delusional. Froch left no doubt that Groves isn’t as good as he thinks he is. He may be good for six or seven rounds and then comes apart. Bika is a very tough fighter and will rough up Groves if or when they meet.Posted August 7, 2014 10:25 am
Good grief, he’s annoying.Posted August 7, 2014 10:20 am
Bo Bo Olson
Very few has a chin, when caught like that.Posted August 7, 2014 10:15 am
If he fights Bika I think he will run into some different types of problems than what he faced with Froch.Posted August 7, 2014 9:59 am
Greatest ever???? Got all your angles covered there with that one prediction?Posted August 7, 2014 8:55 am
Groves third title quest will end in SUCCESS. He will win by decision if not by TKO or devastating KO. I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!Posted August 7, 2014 8:33 am
coming off 2 KO loses george groves the prototypical pasty faced northern european fights for the european titlePosted August 7, 2014 8:12 am
not on the hairs of my chinny chin chin.oh he has no chin.Posted August 7, 2014 8:08 am
He can’t fight at top levelPosted August 7, 2014 7:20 am