I can… and handily… Nard lost 2 fights by the time he had 26 fightsPosted August 10, 2014 11:48 pm
This is the only sport that physically puts a father against his son and calls it competition but sentiment aside Kovalev should KO Nard or risk being ridiculed cause I just can’t imagine a young nard being beaten by Kovalev.Posted August 10, 2014 1:21 pm
Hopkins is vermin.move on.Posted August 9, 2014 10:51 am
Happyboy is on LSD. His mind in gone. Hopkins isn’t 50 and won’t be 50 when they fight. It’s a unification fight so it doesn’t MATTER WHAT age he is.
Hopkins beat Pascal at 46 — and at 49 he’s going to be taken out.. Big deal.. Kovalev needs to grab these titles.Posted August 9, 2014 2:49 am
KO Kovalev – raving on about a youngster fighting a 50 year old, you should be ashamed of your stupid ass.Posted August 9, 2014 1:06 am
ANY EXCUSES TONIGHT ROY???
Stop trolling yourself LOLPosted August 6, 2014 7:35 pm
Tark stop trolling
Bla is a blind moron
Examine the video evidence you stupid fuk… Lewis clearly raked Vitali’s deep facial gashes open with the palm of his right fist… Illegal as HELL!!!
Posted August 6, 2014 2:21 pm
Calzaghe beat Hopkins… Dawson beat Hopkins… China-chinned Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins TWICE… Jones beat Hopkins… And some unknown punk beat Hopkins
What’s so unusual about beating Bernard Hopkins??? Happens all the time.
Kovalev would have knocked all of Hopkins’ conquerors COLD!!! … Especially Jermain Taylor — who every top fighter but weak hitting Hopkins knocked out… Taylor wouldn’t last 30 seconds with a bomber like Sergei.
Posted August 6, 2014 2:17 pmPosted August 6, 2014 4:39 pm
anonymous is on the moneyPosted August 6, 2014 3:12 pm
please no more Lewis and Herman fight night.Posted August 6, 2014 2:40 pm
The Krusher is Koming for Kins. HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAPosted August 6, 2014 2:35 pm
Bla is a blind moron
Examine the video evidence you stupid fuk… Lewis clearly raked Vitali’s deep facial gashes open with the palm of his right fist… Illegal as HELL!!!Posted August 6, 2014 2:21 pm
Calzaghe beat Hopkins… Dawson beat Hopkins… China-chinned Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins TWICE… Jones beat Hopkins… And some unknown punk beat Hopkins
What’s so unusual about beating Bernard Hopkins??? Happens all the time.
Kovalev would have knocked all of Hopkins’ conquerors COLD!!! … Especially Jermain Taylor — who every top fighter but weak hitting Hopkins knocked out… Taylor wouldn’t last 30 seconds with a bomber like Sergei.Posted August 6, 2014 2:17 pm
Tark aren’t you the one obsessed with LL? Refusing to let Vitali’s decade old defeat lie and lying that the punch that ripped his face was illegal? You have even posted on YouTube to try to rewrite history right?Posted August 6, 2014 1:10 pm
“The POINT is that Hopkins was not dominated like some FOOL SAID he was. IF you want to see domination watch Calzaghe vs. Lacy.”
Who cares? Calzaghe beat Hopkins and that’s that.Posted August 6, 2014 10:44 am
“I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!”
Nah. You’re just a rubber with a hole in it.Posted August 6, 2014 10:43 am
Big Martha Stanford
Sheriff honey in L.A. they break the rules all the time. Believe me they see me and they do more than arrest me. So feel free and do your Big Bad thing, I dont mind :)Posted August 6, 2014 10:39 am
I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!Posted August 6, 2014 10:34 am
The laws an ass LOL!Posted August 6, 2014 7:39 am
Bl0ll0ckstradamus..The only FOOL on this board is one who talks rubbish to one of the most decorated members of the Louisiana State Police.
I AM the law boy and you better understand that.
The law says Calzaghe DOMINATED Hopkins.
That Welsh son of a gun outlanded him in every round
Kessler was more accurate and damaging vs Calzaghe.
You son, have just been taken down by the Sheriff.Posted August 6, 2014 3:13 am
Martha, if you come to Louisiana and rob a bank, I promise to be the first officer on the scene, and when I take you down, you`ll feel my hard iron pressing into your back.
But that is as far as this can go. I have a job to do.Posted August 6, 2014 3:02 am
Hopkins, the latter day model especially, makes everyone look bad. I’d go as far as to say he makes boxing look bad.Posted August 6, 2014 2:25 am
“Close” only counts in hand grenades, horseshoes, and golf.
Maybe Bernie should do more pushups.”-The POINT is that Hopkins was not dominated like some FOOL SAID he was. IF you want to see domination watch Calzaghe vs. Lacy.Posted August 5, 2014 11:19 pm
tark ❤ isabellePosted August 5, 2014 7:00 pm
Sremond will tell any lie to knock the Klitschko Bros, who he hates because they happen to be white Eastern Europeans. He talks about phantom injuries suffered by Vitali, a subject he displays complete ignorance about.
Vitali Klitschko also suffered a tear of his rotator cuff against Dereck Chisora. This was the diagnosis of Klitschko physician Prof. Dr. Bernd M. Kabelka, Sunday morning in the Munich clinic the day after the fight. Vitali used only his right hand for extensive periods of that fight.
An MRI showed the tear wouldn’t require surgery.. Dr. Kabelka said, “In the Chris Byrd fight the rotator cuff was completely torn, as in ripped into two pieces, and required extensive surgery.”Posted August 5, 2014 6:39 pm
“If Nard wins or makes him look bad then that is gonna really drag Kovalev DOWN…”
I think both of these scenarios are possible. For certain however, Kovalev is a much better boxer than Shumenov, Murat, Dawson, Cloud, and Pascal. Kovalev would likely KO at least three of those five and beat the crap out of the other two.Posted August 5, 2014 6:10 pm
“Hopkins was competitive in a lot of those rounds vs Dawson.”
LOL! But he still lost, didn’t he? “Close” only counts in hand grenades, horseshoes, and golf.
Maybe Bernie should do more pushups.Posted August 5, 2014 6:05 pm
“Picking a guy to win while saying it’s an error… The new Boxtradamus.”
LMAO! Don’t forget Boxtra$$wipe always multi-predicts too, i.e.: “Dominant UD or late stoppage.”Posted August 5, 2014 6:03 pm
Big Martha Stanford
Sheriff I’ll be in the holding cell waiting for ! Muah !Posted August 5, 2014 5:52 pm
Sredmond.., “I will err on the side of youth and go 60/40 for Kovalev.” WTF?
Picking a guy to win while saying it’s an error… The new Boxtradamus.Posted August 5, 2014 5:42 pm
SREDMOND……..you are an unreliable witness.
Maybe the sweet baby Jesus didn`t bless you with more than 2 braincells, but if you think Hopkins is this great crafty old pro, then Kovalev beatingg him means something, and Kovalev knocking him out means Yeeeeeeehah, nuclear winter in Philadelphia.
Only one good thing ever came out of Philly and that is creme cheese.Posted August 5, 2014 5:24 pm
Occams razor…..I impress me with my $500 Ray bans.
I like to hold a mirror behind a punks head as I arrest him so I can see the reflection of him whimpering in the reflection of my Ray Bans. It looks a million dollars.Posted August 5, 2014 5:21 pm
Big Martha….The Sheriff shows his love for you by protecting you and all the good folks from pinkos, punks, and general scum.
By dint of my office I cannot show it any other way. They would take these cuffs off me if I deigned to clip one around your sweet sweet wrists for any kind of sexual pleasure.Posted August 5, 2014 5:19 pm
Bears, your a bozo its a close fight Nard is a much better more experienced fighter but he is 50, Kovalev is strong, powerful and streaking I will err on the side of youth and go 60/40 for Kovalev. If Nard wins or makes him look bad then that is gonna really drag Kovalev DOWN…Posted August 5, 2014 4:19 pm
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sresmond- again where did u got to school? who are you forecasting to win kovalev vs nard hop?Posted August 5, 2014 3:39 pm
Bears, Kessler is NOT a “HW” and why does the Race of the boxers matter to ANYONE EXCEPT your of course? your argument as per usual is a reflection of your VERY poor breeding, lack of education and ingrained RedNeck thinking… So again how do HW’s jibe with Kessler? Nonsensical tsk tskPosted August 5, 2014 3:18 pm
Hopkins full of hate, racist and disrectful to peoplePosted August 5, 2014 2:17 pm
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check that out! i kist four bkack heavyweights that might be considered better boxers than kessler and sredmond drops it immediatly and will not defend kessler if it means he has to argue against some blacks
difference between u and i sredmond. i will speak ill of any color or speak well of and deffend any color. its not about color to me but we wont find u doing anything close to thatPosted August 5, 2014 12:26 pm
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man thats good company to be in!!!
like roy jones jr kovalev is going to be looking damn good against hopkins. he will loom better and do better than anyone else has to datePosted August 5, 2014 12:18 pm
Sherif- have you actually met anyone who is impressed by 500 dollar ray bans? Who are they where do they live? The should be placed against a wall.Posted August 5, 2014 11:44 am
Bears, Kesslers career and status have endured during his career… 3G and Kovalev really have NOT beaten anyone of consequence aside from Geale and Cleverly who do NOT rate alongside Froch… Mikkel Kessler is a vetted fighter who has fought the BEST of his era, guys who have historical cache at this point Super 6 winner Andre Ward, HOFer Joe Calzaghe and likely HOFER Carl Froch…Golovkin and Kovalev have resumes that are composed of fighters that really are forgotten or forgettable Ouma, Adama, Agnew, Bellew, Caparello are they BETTER than the C listers they are bashing? sure but Carl Froch and Kessler would have KILLED those guys also NEITHER man has EVER lost to someone who was not a World Champion or TOP NOTCH fighter…Posted August 5, 2014 10:54 am
HaHaHa after he fought Hopkins, Dawson said “He is a Great fighter” and that he was dirty…Dawson looked WAY worse than Bernard and despite his youth and speed he missed by a countrymile… The old man got outworked and outhustled by Chad but he sure as hell did NOT get beat up… NO ONE except Roy Jones Jr has EVER “looked good” against Bernard Hopkins… Get realPosted August 5, 2014 9:56 am
Big Martha Stanford
I love you Sheriff ! Can you hand cuff me ive been a very bad girl :)Posted August 5, 2014 8:21 am
The Sheriff doesn`t wear eyeglasses, he has a pair of $500 Raybans, that do him just nicely when he is shooting his desert eagle .50 straight into thee kneecaps of crims and pinkos like you.
Hopkins got owned like the prison b 1 tch he is, by Dawson, who is the softest daddy who ever r @ ped a man.Posted August 5, 2014 6:35 am
118-110 Dawson. Boxtradumbass the biggest moron ever born.Posted August 5, 2014 5:17 am
NOPE.., Ward offered to fight Froch in England and Froch refused… He doesn’t want another ass beating.
His testes are about the size of a flea’s. No wonder he doesn’t want GGG.Posted August 5, 2014 3:06 am
I’m a f uking idiot
It’s ridiculous that people can so easily question the volume of frochs testicles. Is this not one test he has continuously passed?Posted August 5, 2014 2:37 am
Hopkins was competitive in a lot of those rounds vs Dawson. The definition of Domination is NON competitive.Posted August 5, 2014 2:04 am
And what Hopkins DID to Pavlik was Domination.Posted August 5, 2014 2:02 am
There was no domination. What Calzaghe DID to Jeff Lacy and Roy Jones Jr. was Domination.Posted August 5, 2014 2:01 am
Dan Rafael scored Hopkins-Dawson II, 118-110 Dawson.. I had the same score.. It wasn’t a total domination.. Hopkins did a lot of damage to Dawson with his head.
Chad Dawson couldn’t get through the 1st round with Adnonis Stevenson… It was evident Dawson was finished as a top-notch light heavyweight at that point.
Chad Dawson on dominating Hopkins.., “We knew he was going to headbutt. Hopkins hit me with like eight headbutts. I kept my composure, but it was real obvious that he was doing it on purpose.”Posted August 4, 2014 11:02 pm
The Sheriff go get you some EYEGLASSES. Hopkins LOST to Dawson but he was NOT dominated in any way, form, or FASHION.Posted August 4, 2014 9:39 pm
brza da originator
Sick of everyone saying Froch s quote was taken outta context . Am I missing somethin was froch performing a scene in a play . His reasoning seemed crystal clear to me . If anythin Froch should be applauded for his honestyPosted August 4, 2014 8:59 pm
Froch didn’t say he wouldn’t fight him. I’ve already posted quotes from Froch saying he runs from no manPosted August 4, 2014 8:05 pm
The lowly and despicable Hopkins has previously faked an injury against Chad Dawson. It took years to finally get Hopkins in the ring with Dawson.
After Calzaghe dryhumped Hopkins, outlanding him in every single round Hopkins didn`t chase a fight with the obvious candidate – Dawson. No instead he fought an alcoholic b u m in Pavlik who wasn`t eve a LHW. THEN he faced Ornelas (WHO?). Then he faced the shadow of RJJ.
SO when does he decide he is ready to fight for the title agains – OOOOOOOOOOH the moment Dawson loses it to the incredibly limited Pascal.
The Hopkins takes two goes to scramble a result against Pascal (only took Froch one go), and the moment Dawson is ordered as his mandatory Hopkins is looking for a way out – that eventuated in his bogus injury.
We all saw what happened when Hopkins was eventually frogmarched to the ring – he put up a limp, insipid, pathetic performance in being dominated by Dawson.Posted August 4, 2014 6:48 pm
Krusher got his work in and a unification fight so it was a productive night. Agree with the author, that so-called knockdown was a joke. Obv Caparello stepped on his foot and pushed him down.Posted August 4, 2014 6:32 pm
Froch even said he wouldn’t fight Golovkin… and that Golovkin’s a killer.. He doesn’t want to get knocked out obviously.
Golovkin vs Kessler wouldn’t fly. That’s too one-sided a matchup. Kessler wouldn’t get through the first round because he’s so easy to hit.
Ward is willing to fight GGG, but he has no illusions. He knows it’s a massive risk. It will be an interesting fight after GGG unifies at 160.Posted August 4, 2014 5:27 pm
Dawson and Taylor are China-Chinned, powder puff punchers who beat B-Hop
Would they be favored to beat Kovalev??? They would be prohibitive underdogs.Posted August 4, 2014 5:16 pm
Froch and Kessler were both so easy to hit discussing a punch Kessler landed on Froch is ludicrous… Even suckface Groves landed big on Froch.Posted August 4, 2014 5:06 pm
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i don see a nard hop winning at all even remotely. so i have no excuses. im forecasting DOMINATION for kovalev. whats your forecast sredmond or are you just here to give your valuations as though your a boxing authority andrhere is a single one if us whi gives a phuck about your opinion, estimations, and valuations? it winds up being your same ol regurgitations but the dog barks and the caravan rolls on. nard hop has already behaved like he is being fed for slaughter in his max kellerman interview as he interpreted kellermans question to insinuate a loss removes all his accomplishments.
nard was whacked out gave a whacked out response and interview.
im sorry but eecking out a single decision win against froch does not make u better than 3g or kovalev jus thinking that makes you retarded.
if u ask me i think wlad has defeated better fighters than ward. i think haye and povetkin are more skilled are more skilled than froch and kessler and dawson im my opinion. i think byrd is a better boxer than kessler in fact.
i think u could make a case for thompson, rahman, brewster, and mercer all being better thAn kessler in terms of boxingPosted August 4, 2014 4:57 pm
That was meant for Bears below but they are often interchangeable..!Posted August 4, 2014 4:08 pm
Tark, Kessler BEAT Froch and Froch’s victory was not some sort of domination… Kessler even with his now waning skills still buzzed the hell out of Froch in the 10th or 11th round and that’s why Froch was discussing a Rubber Match, partially for cash partially because it was competitive enough that they might be able to milk another event out of it… Ward of course is a fight neither man wants because being dominated like a HOE does NOT feel good… You should relate to this!Q!Posted August 4, 2014 4:05 pm
Bears, NO ONE could see why Klits wimped out against Bears that’s why he was SHAT upon by the HBO team including Merchant… We saw Dawson toss Nard to the Ground AGAIN you are SCARED to just say you think Kovalev will win, always trying to leave yourself a backdoor it must be custom since Tark spends so much time entering yours…Posted August 4, 2014 4:03 pm
Sure Bears, Hopkins is SO scared that the made the fight at 50, you are a child who still believes in Boogeymen… Hops has beaten and faced MUCH better fighters than Kovalev who made his bones against a low class of opposition… Hops is the most VETTED fighter that Kovalev has faced NOT vice versa you fool and at 50 years old he STILL has LAMES like you preloading excuses for Kovalev which is really pathetic to be honest…Posted August 4, 2014 4:01 pm
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LOL @ SRETARDMON!!!!!!
vitalys injury and severity were diagnosed and he had surgery!
no it was some grand conspiracy!!! vitaly got all used up pounding byrds face and winning every round and could no longer fight on for no reason. yeah that sounds likely
what an idiot! does anyone? i mean ANYONE on east side established buy your sh!t??? i so LOL @ them too but i dont see anyPosted August 4, 2014 3:56 pm
Sure Bears that’s why Kessler was the TOP SMW in the World when he faced Ward, and Ward is NOT P4P #2 in the World because EVERYONE is secretly wrong and they are bums while Kovalev is an ATG for knocking out Caparello?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Bears MOST of your heros have NEVER defeated a trifecta of boxers like Froch, Kessler and Dawson so you must look at Wlad, Kovalev and GGG like scrubs? They don’t even come close to having 3 names at their peak like that on their resumes… How do you respond Dog??Posted August 4, 2014 3:53 pm
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im just glad goldon boy and haymon were forced to feed kovalev nard hop as they were about to be sued over the lengths adonis went to dodge kovalev!!!!
lol kovalev strikes fear in EVERY heart. nard is already planning his injury loss or dive rather than DIE!! thats why he stormed away from kellerman pi$$ed when kellerman said beatin kovalev a this point might be his greatest achievementPosted August 4, 2014 3:52 pm
Sorry Bears, Vitali showed NO signs of injury when he was winning but when Byrd stuck around and Klits had to finish the bout he QUIT… When no one absent him could verify he was hurt… Nothing like Dawson body slamming Hopkins which could easily have caused a problem and Hops rematched him taking the”L”Posted August 4, 2014 3:51 pm
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wards resume is kessler froch and dawson. it aint all that eitherPosted August 4, 2014 3:48 pm
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kessler has not fought hardly anyone outside froch and froch avenged with better scores. froch is no “master boxer”
again u dont know wtf your talking about retard talkin outta your a$$.
no kessler and froch do not have the boxing skill 3g and kovalev have. kesslers not even in the same hemisphere sh!t for brainsPosted August 4, 2014 3:46 pm
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no because hopkins would have to win every round and have a legitamate career jeopardizing rotator cuf injury early in his career than have the surgerh than have a surgen describe how severly bad the tear was
for one nard hop wont will be fetting worked not kovalev.
“phantom injury” again what a retard. besides old burd was getting DOMINATEDPosted August 4, 2014 3:43 pm
Really Bears “Nard Claims and injury and retires” do you mean like Vitali QUITTING against Chris Byrd with a phantom bad arm??? What a silly thesis reality is that Kovalev SHOULD be able to do away with Nard and if he can’t then he is just ANOTHER power puncher being taken to school by a MASTER boxer…Posted August 4, 2014 3:40 pm
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i would put money on kovalev over bernard adonis and ward even if kovalev does not dispose of nard hop dominantly but my forecast says he does dispose of nard or nard claims an injury and retires from the bout that is all i see happening
nards racewar is anoutto beginPosted August 4, 2014 3:28 pm
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sredmonds post to me is retarded. i dont know where to begin. because i dont like or respect hopkins kovev reaping his scalp is valueless now? your an idiot whi actually tried to make a case its a dounle standard. dude u are a retard OFFICIALLYPosted August 4, 2014 3:23 pm
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3g and kovalev are better boxers than kessler and froch. im a big froch fan and there is a lot to like about the guyPosted August 4, 2014 3:13 pm
Tark you treat beating Froch and Kessler like ANYONE can do it YET you are willing to hand Kovalev and GGG the keys to the kingdom for beating fighters that are NOT even World Class let alone World Champs… Your logic is NON EXISTENT and continually brands you the fool….Posted August 4, 2014 3:08 pm
Tark, its CLEAR that you were trying to sell Algieri as a Pacquiao opponent when you denounce Maidana who is proven World Class and legit dangerous… I know you are SHAMED that I have confronted you with your double dealing but we cannot abide by your hyporcrisy!! Pac Man is a monster for facing Algieri but Floyds a chump for facing the bigger, stronger and tougher Maidana at 147 pounds? GTFOHPosted August 4, 2014 3:02 pm
Yeah Tark SURE NOW “Ward is avoiding Kovalev” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! When has Ward fought at 175 or tried to make a bout there like GGG has at 168 with Chavez Jr??? Besides if Ward were going to fight at 175 why would he NOT go after Stevenson who brings MORE money with his Canadian contingent and is the actual RING CHAMP unlike Kovalev who just fought in front of 1600 people I believe I just read??? You always say “This fighter is avoiding this one and that one is avoiding that one” without ANY basis for your statements or basic understanding of business… Tsk Tsk you idiot!!Posted August 4, 2014 3:00 pm
brook is another modern hype job. move on.Posted August 4, 2014 2:58 pm
Besides.., In that post I CLEARLY said Algieri would never beat Porter, Thurman, or Brook with his current level of experience…
That’s hardly a hype job… That’s knocking him down.Posted August 4, 2014 2:55 pm
Sredmond.., You’re putting words in my mouth again assface.
I pointed out that Algieri is undefeated… He hasn’t fought anybody but he’s undefeated… big deal… That’s how I put it… I said there were better undefeated challengers like Porter, Thurman, and Brook, who would be much tougher opponents for Pacquiao.
Being undefeated is better than being 17-4 like Jimmy Young was when he challenged Ali. He managed to beat slowpoke Ron Lyle, so he wasn’t as bad as many Ali challengers.
Chuck Wepner never beat anyone good, and had a ton of losses… He was another Ali title challenger.
Alfredo Evangelista had 2 losses to nobodies and only a few fights… He was certainly a worse title challenger than Algieri, but it didn’t stop him from getting an Ali fight.
I’m not happy with Algieri, but it will be a tougher fight than people think.
Is that hyping Algieri to the moon??? That’s your sick interpretation.Posted August 4, 2014 2:50 pm
Tark you were advocating for Algieri below we have caught you bending the truth YET again!!Posted August 4, 2014 2:47 pm
Algieri beat a better fighter than Porter, Thurman, or Brook ever faced.
That’s a bit simplistic because Chris would never beat those 3 guys…not with his current experience at the world level. But the facts remain, Algieri is an undefeated World Champion — and he’s a very intelligent, articulate, and presentable college educated and extremely confident guy — who the fans will like once the publicity and promotional hype machines get revved up.
Who the Hell is Algieri??? The hype machine will soon let you know.
Those were the main considerations of the promoters… Algieri has a great story.
Ward is seriously ducking Kovalev at this point… He ran out of serious challengers at 168 a long time ago, yet is avoiding the 7 pound move to 175 and Kovalev and Stevenson.
Golovkin wants to fight Ward… and he’s made several offers to 168-pounders of 400,000 dollars and more, including Rodriguez about 18 months ago and Chavez lately… GGG needs a transition fight to help acclimate him to 168, because he’s a natural middleweight while Ward is a natural light heavyweight.
However, those transition opponents backed out — so he’s concentrating on unifying 160 first — a worthy goal. He might even move directly to Ward once he unifies.Posted August 4, 2014 2:39 pm
Tark, you were going on and on about how Algieri was
LYING assed Sredmond claims.., “You are the SAME fool who thinks that Mayweather opponents are weak YET Algieri and Caparello are World Beaters”
I NEVER said Algieri or Caparello are World Beaters. In my post below I called Caparello an “unworthy opponent.”
I said several times that Algieri wasn’t the best opponent, or one of the best opponents for Pacquiao… I said he was woefully lacking in experience and amateur background on several occasions.
The only positive things I said about Algieri were about his grit and determination.. and his mental equipment.. You have to be wary of guys like that—because they’re the types of people who score unbelievable upsets.
I’m fairly sure Pacquiao isn’t taking Algieri lightly, or is going to be snuck up on… He’s aware the man is serious.
Stop putting words in my mouth you lying MFer.Posted August 4, 2014 2:24 pm
Q.., The way cherry-picking works is this:
A “world champion” wants to fight somebody, so their org ranks the guy they want to fight the mandatory challenger. How else does a guy like Bellew get ranked the mandatory???
It works the other way too… Oscar De La Hoya wanted a “World Middleweight Championship” before he fought Hopkins… So Felix Sturm’s org conveniently ranked Oscar Sturm’s number on challenger…
In that case the challenger had the influence and the money to buy his ranking.Posted August 4, 2014 2:15 pm
tark, Tony Bellew was the mandatory challenger for Adonis Stevenson and was not a cherry pick.Posted August 4, 2014 2:00 pm
Tark, there is a reason that Ward is P4P# 2 its because he beat the BEST guys in his class and they were boxers who HAD and earned credentials… You can say that Kessler and Froch cannot fight but the FACT is that both were World Champions on MORE than one occasion and BOTH were only defeated by World Champions… Froch lost to Ward and Kessler, Kessler lost to Calzaghe, Ward, and Froch… Examine the credentials and your SILLY interpretations of who they are get thrown out the WINDOW… But then again for you suddenly Agnew, Bellew, Caparello, Geale, Adama and Stevens are ALL World Beaters meanwhile the ONLY boxer among them with game is Geale… Learn OLD MANPosted August 4, 2014 1:27 pm
Tark, “The number of punches Ward has taken” WTF are you talking about? GGG and Kovalev are fighting relative SCRUBS for the most part… You really wanna sell Kovalev beating this last guy as proof of his quality? GTFOH again you are a BANDWAGONEER….If Ward spent his career facing Caparellos then he would not lose a single round LMAO….As for Golovkin moving to 168, HE and his fans were beating the drums for him taking out everyone up to 175 and he was deep in negotiations for Chavez Jr YET when Dre wanted to bang suddenly he is refocused on 160?? Again I am NOT the guy to swear everyone is ducking everyone… Unlike you I understand there is a business component to this thing called boxing… That said GGG’s claims of being ready and willing to jump divisions to face “Anyone” have proven BOGUS thus far… You are the SAME fool who thinks that Mayweather opponents are weak YET Algieri and Caparello are World Beaters suddenly because you want the resumes of the boxers in question BUFFED up…If Floyd or Ward were facing Algieri or Caparello equivalents you would lose your mind, you PRETEND you trained fighters and are actually “in the know” when the truth is that you are a BONEHEAD who’s story like (Bears) cannot remain the same for more than 2 posts….Everyone is on to youPosted August 4, 2014 1:24 pm
Boxing Fan, KILL yourself and really do leave and take Bears with you! I presented you with my arguments as far as the actual fighters I challenge your NOW dead corpse to show a racist comment I have made…??? How am I “hyping Ward” he is currently the Ring Champ at 168 and P4P #2 in the World… How am I hyping Hopkins? he is an ATG, a guy who defended 20x at MW, won the LHW Championship 2x, and became the OLDEST fighter on 2 occasions to capture a major Championship, are you saying I invented the accomplishments?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! FACT is that I lean towards PROVEN fighters over the next HOT guy until the NEXT HOT guy becomes a proven fighter… But then again you are no longer part of this forum so BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!Posted August 4, 2014 1:17 pm
Okay, I’m done with this board. I’ve suspected for some time that these ESB forums are filled with by racist morons — some (e.f. SREDMOND) hyping Hopkins and Ward because they’re “black”, others (e.g. BEARS) hyping Kovalev and Golovkin because they’re “white” — but now it’s as plain as day. How desperately sad. I’ll leave you lowlife fukcwits to it.Posted August 4, 2014 1:07 pm
Sredmond.., “Kovalev is NOT on Wards level beating Caparello, Agnew and Bellew is NOT beating Dawson, Froch and Kessler in the manner Dre did it… GGG’s people have officially said they are not messing with Ward.”
LMFAO!!!! Bellew??? Isn’t that somebody Stevenson cherry-picked???
Sredmond attacks 2 Eastern Europeans at once—as usual he spreads his hate around.. Check the number of punches Ward had taken in his last 10 fights — versus the number of punches Kovalev and Golovkin have absorbed… and maybe you’ll get an idea of who’s on whose level.
Golovkin has yet to unify 160, and there’s plenty of logical opponents for him at 160… Ward HAS unified 168, and there are NO logical opponents for him at 168 — yet, in Sredmond’s mind, GGG is supposed to move to 168 immediately—but Ward doesn’t have to challenge Kovalev anytime soon … That doesn’t make a lick of sense — but then Sred’s hatred never does.
BTW.., There is nothing stellar about the boxing skills Ward’s last 10 opponents—except possibly for Chad Dawson—who has proven to be a bust lately against world class opposition… Chad never had power or a chin — and he’s been on a steep downward slide ever since he lost to the inept swinger, Jean Pascal.
Ward IS a highly skilled boxer… but you can’t prove it by the caliber of skills his opponents have.. GGG and Kovalev are also highly skilled boxers… but you can’t prove it by their opponents either — although Geale and Cleverly are not as bad as some of the robots Ward has faced.
You can judge all 3 of them by how brutally and efficiently they hammered out their unworthy opposition.Posted August 4, 2014 12:56 pm
Bears, its interesting how you are writing a fantasy where Kovalev is fighting and defeating Hops, Stevenson and Ward in succession when he has NOT even booked a win over Hopkins yet? you also discuss him as an ATG and HOFER already? hmmmmmm interesting because I thought you did NOT respect Hopkins, Ward nor Stevenson so how the hell would that warrant an HOF trip for Kovalev if they are all the BUMS you try to sell them as? see how you CONSTANTLY contradict yourself???? Reality is that you are a VERY immature guy as it pertains to boxing and certainly life… Kovalev has an interesting assignment ahead of him where ekeing out a win is NOT gonna cut it.. He needs to dominate badly or stop 50 year old Hops or he might raise serious doubts about his true quality… Pressure is on Kovalev lets see what he does then you and Tark can begin your circle jerk and start printing “We love Kovalev” T Shirts while rimming eachother…Posted August 4, 2014 12:38 pm
Kovalev is NOT on Wards level beating Caparello, Agnew and Bellew is NOT beating Dawson, Froch and Kessler in the manner Dre did it… GGG’s people have officially said they are not messing with Ward and Bears wants Ward OUT of 168 because that means GGG cannot come there with his skillset and expect to excel against SOG… Kovalev would also have his best weapon taken and then whats he gonna do? Outbox Ward? not while Dre has 2 hands and eyes same for GGG… Only shot they have a stoppage and neither man is good enough or fast enough to land the money punch against a real P4P fighter like Ward.Posted August 4, 2014 12:25 pm
Bears, seriously why NOT invest your NEO NAZI leanings in another website.. NO one is discussing the bout in the manner YOU are except a low class, low life racist PIG like you… Kovalev and Hopkins are having a boxing match NOT a “RaceWar” in the manner that YOU hope for and are billing the fight… Should Kovalev stop Hops then GOOD for him he will be the FIRST to do it and it took 50 years for that to happen… Kovalev does NOT have the resume of Dawson or Pavlik and for all his shortcomings NOBODY knocked Pavlik out…Aside from being Bhop opponents Pavlik never even fought at 175 pounds so how relevant is he to the convo? Reality is that if Hops makes Kovalev look bad or schools him then Kovalevs rep goes STRAIGHT to the crapper because his opponent is beyond OLD in boxing years.Posted August 4, 2014 12:22 pm
Bears – Kovalev should be viewed as the favourite over Stevenson IMO. Against Ward though? that’s a tough one. When Sergey has hoovered up Stevenson’s and Bhop’s belts it’ll make him a P4P fighter, and a lucrative opponent for anyone. And I have no doubt Ward will step up to 175 to face the formidable Kovalev, Ward has faced every possible threat so far, he ducks nobody (as long as it’s in America!).Posted August 4, 2014 12:21 pm
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kovalevs next three fights should be nard, adonis, and ward then you can start writing up the ATG HOF paperwork.
what an awesome time in boxing wlad, kovalev, 3g, canelo, lomachenko,
cant wait to see what happens in porter vs thurman and see if one if the two impresses. rooting for porterPosted August 4, 2014 12:10 pm
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kovalevs boxing and punching is more impressive than both pavlik and dawson put togetherPosted August 4, 2014 12:06 pm
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bernard is gonna loose his racewar!!!
i cant think of a different a whiteman other than wlad i would like to see in the ring taking part in bernards racewar.
i will definitely be watching bernards race war and i will be rooting like hell for kovalev.Posted August 4, 2014 12:04 pm
Kovalev’s professional credentials aren’t as impressive as Pavlik’s or Dawson’s yet – both were Ring Champs. But, Sergey would surely have destroyed Kelly and Chad. Hops at 50 won’t have the strength to fiddle and sneak his way of this one. It may take 5 or 6 rounds to wear him down, but Kovalev is 100% knocking Bhop out! Kovalev will reign for a few years.Posted August 4, 2014 12:03 pm
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kovale will do better than dawson. kovalev will hurt or kill nard hop or nard will fake an injury.
titles are going to kovalev who will be recognized as number one at that point by all. adonis will have to fight or be officially branded a biatch.
kovalev is set to slay nard hop and adonis in short order then we will see if ward intends to biatch outPosted August 4, 2014 11:53 am
Hopkins will win this fight by SLY OLD FOX sloppy decision. He will not beat up Kovalev but will disarm him and win on points. I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!Posted August 4, 2014 11:48 am
Third World, that is as it should be if Kovalev is really that much of a beast… I am SORRY when Hops was 32 there was NOT a fighter who was 50 that was gonna come out on the right side of the decision or give him a tough night…Posted August 4, 2014 11:35 am
this was the fight that ended b-hop. after a feeling out round and some hopkins non-sense,kovalev is going to wreck this old man. i guarantee this.Posted August 4, 2014 11:32 am
I felt the same way about guys crying for Canelo against Mayweather… You have a PRIME young guy facing a smaller OLDER boxer and chumps were preloading excuses for the YOUNGSTER!!! Boxing is typically a young mans game and if a guy on the comeup cannot make the most of his opportunity then he should just KILL himself…If Kovalev cannot get past Hopkins or do it in a CLEAR and impressive fashion then its a mark against him in my book and if he loses a BIG mark…Posted August 4, 2014 11:11 am
Hidbee, tell that to your compatriots below who are already whining about how Hopkins is gonna abuse poor Kovalev and honestly I don’t wanna hear you calling any fighter “past it” going forward reality is that Nards age is relevant its discussed by all parties including Kellerman, Kovalev and Hops himself… He is well beyond athletic prime for ANY sport and like I said the onus is on Kovalev to look good against Bhop…If I hear PUNK fans afterwards whimpering that Nard held, smothered, and outfought him I am gonna have a FIELD day…. I cannot think of a single future Great who got defeated by a 50 year old boxer in his prime…Posted August 4, 2014 11:06 am
Boxing Fan, I see Kovalev as amongst the top 3 or so at LHW, I am taking guys to task for making him an ATG when we are discussing his win over he “Not so mighty” Blake Caparello… Its a BORE watching guys affix their lips to the lastest guys schlong because he beat a NO HOPER impressively… Kovalev can hit and his initiative is clear in the ring (seek and destroy) that said these heavily padded resumes have to be kept in perspective…Posted August 4, 2014 11:03 am
“what sympathy can we have for a PRIME tough guy who cannot outmuscle a 50 year old ?????? ”
SRedmond, the age argument is benign and unqualifiable for this fight. Hopkins is presently a unified champion who will be fighting another champion in Kovalev in November. Trying to use Hopkins’ age to justify anything is ridiculous. The man has proven that he’s more than a match for most light heavyweights at this time in his career. Now, if he was foundering around the ring looking inept, old, and getting beat up that would be one thing, but Bernard isn’t. He’s winning, getting titles, and still fighting strong.
No sympathy needed, no argument of sympathy is warranted or justified. This is two champions fighting and that’s that. If Bernard loses it’s because Kovalev is better. If Hopkins wins, it’s because he’s better than Kovalev. Cut and dried.Posted August 4, 2014 11:02 am
Boxing Fan, I AM putting the HEAT on Kovalev to go ahead and validate some of the claims you guys are making!! YES Hopkins is 50 years old and if Kovalev is “All that” he is gonna make this look easy… I see guys whining about Nard “holding and making it a rough fight” what sympathy can we have for a PRIME tough guy who cannot outmuscle a 50 year old ?????? how is Kovalev gonna differentiate himself from Pascal, Cloud and other youngsters who have fallen or been bedeviled by Hopkins?? if he cannot do it then I am gonna see this as ANOTHER scenario where guys got ahead of themselves… As for him getting put down it was not about him being “badly hurt” which I stated below, its more about operating with abandon that a LIGHT puncher like Caparello cannot make you pay for whereas a solid puncher with technique MIGHT make you pay for…I have NEVER called Dawson “Great” show me where I have? He was certainly the TOP LHW boxer around for a number of years and had some notable wins to underscore his credentials…”Great” is an elusive title to me, I consider them Great… Has Hopkins proven unbeatable over the past 8 years? NO! he is certainly a tough out and he has surprised on multiple occasions but his consistency understandably is not on par with the same guy who made 20 straight defenses and stopped Felix Trinidad at 36…. Again if you have so much confidence in Kovalev then you should NOT have issue believing that he is gonna REALLY lay the beatdown on OLD Hopkins and YES Hopkins is indeed OLD no matter what sport we discuss…Posted August 4, 2014 10:55 am
“Sitting around preparing excuses for Kovalev because he is gonna face a tricky but STILL 50 year old boxer is pretty damn weak”
Hmm, and yet sitting around preparing excuses for Hopkins — who you’re always saying is on a completely different level to Kovalev — on account of his age, is not weak at all, right?
“Caparello was able to put Kovalev down contrary to the HBO team glossing over that and wanting to attribute the bulk of the incident to his “foot being stepped on””
Hmm, so you think that Kovalev went down from the sheer power of Caparello’s punch, and that it had nothing to do with the fact that his foot was being stepped on, right?
Let’s put it like this: which Light Heavyweights in the world today do you think would beat Kovalev? We already know that, if he beats Hopkins (which most of us are quite sure he will), you have your excuse prepared: viz., “he’s nearly 50!”.
So, who else? If no one else, then what? It’s just “a weak division”? And yet when Dawson was champ he was a great fighter (which you have said in the past), right?
I think you need to ask yourself why it is that you seem always to denigrate certain fighters and glorify others. The thing is, there seems to be a certain pattern to it. Are you aware of what it is?
Try this: who, according to you, are the top-ten best ever Super Middleweights? (Try googling “List of super-middleweight boxing champions” if you need reminders.)Posted August 4, 2014 10:46 am
One thing to note is that despite him not being hurt and putting him away quick, Caparello was able to put Kovalev down contrary to the HBO team glossing over that and wanting to attribute the bulk of the incident to his “foot being stepped on” Kovalev was indeed clipped with a punch.. Often these wrecking ball punchers are so enamored of their own power that they can barely consider being on the OTHER side of a KO… If Mike Tyson could learn then lesson then ANYONE is eligible… Time will tellPosted August 4, 2014 9:26 am
Tark, has OFFICIALLY predicted that Kovalev is gonna “smash Hopkins” OK lets see how this goes and that’s the yardstick this nutcase (Tark) is gonna be held to.. Lets get real here Kovalev just beat a guy that Kellerman called “Not even a live underdog” Capaello had NO power he was put in there to take a loss and predictably did so in SHORT order.. This guys record is almost identical to Algieri’s and we here the SAME crap from posters who wanna sell him as a viable Manny opponent “He is undefeated” REALLY?? Against WHO!! there are plenty of “Undefeated guys” who do NOT box against World Class fighters and Caparello is one of them so in reality it is what it is…This whole rush to anoint fighters as GREAT without vetting is getting OLD and tired… Tark LITERALLY picks a new fighter every other week to begin banging the drums about…Porter, Loma, GGG, Kovalev, Haye these guys are all HOF worthy in Tarks eyes and he will go on lengthy diatribes to explain why boxers who’s credentials have withstood the test of time ie Leonard, Ali and others are fraudulent because Kovalev stopped Caparello or GGG stopped Adama and Geale, or Lomanchenko dusted Russell or Porter stopping the suddenly unstoppable Paulie Malignaggi??? Yeah right people who have followed the sport are not gonna by this bandwagoneering anymore than they are gonna by Mormeck as a GREAT defense for Wlad…Posted August 4, 2014 9:23 am
Sitting around preparing excuses for Kovalev because he is gonna face a tricky but STILL 50 year old boxer is pretty damn weak.. If Sergey is as good as he has looked against C listers then I am sorry he better get rid of Hopkins in style or win by a landslide..If Hopkins holds and spoils then overpower him and beat him up its that simple (or so it seems) Kovalev’s in the prime of his life and off the top of my head I cannot think of too many VERY good fighters who lost to a 50 year old boxer no matter what his pedigree…. Terry Norris beat Leonard like a lackey and Ray was only 34 should Kovalev lose or struggle with Nard I am gonna consider him EXPOSED…Especially directed at the contingent that believes Hops cannot fight in the first place…Posted August 4, 2014 9:11 am
Hop uses his head illegally to win fightsPosted August 4, 2014 8:26 am
Just went back and watched Calzaghe vs. Eubank and Calzaghe vs. Kessler. great fights , and Joe was a great fighter.Posted August 4, 2014 8:23 am
For the record, I’ll give my opinion now: Kovalev stops Hopkins (if Hopkins does actually fight Kovalev). Whether TKO or KO, I do not know; however, once again, Kovalev stops Hopkins, and he’ll do it every time they’ll fight.Posted August 4, 2014 8:20 am
@Boxing Fan…………………..Great post.
Two opinions on Joe Calzaghe, undefeated 46-0, former WBO, IBF, WBC, WBA & Ring Super Middleweight Champion, Ring Light Heavyweight Champion, and Ring 2008 #3 P4P fighter in the world:
“Joe Calzaghe is a phenomenal fighting machine. He’s in a zone all by himself.” — Manny Steward (R.I.P.)
“Slappy Joe was a joke” — “Anonymous”Posted August 4, 2014 8:18 am
I think Hopkins will plan on making it as dirty of a fight as possible with plenty of holding and fouls. That in my opinion is his only real shot at winning. He knows Kovalev has only gone up to 8 rounds and will do all he can to frustrate him.
And yes there are some similarities to Hopkins going in against Trinidad and later Pavlik. Most thought they were going to tear Hopkins head off. The only thing is the Pavlik fight was six years ago and Hopkins is now almost 50 years old. If Kovalev can really take it to him the way Dawson did in the second fight then I think he can possibly put Hopkins away. I think the key obviously is to make Bernard fight nearly every second of each round and not let him turn it into a slow paced fight like he usely does.
But Sergey knows that even an almost 50 year old Bhop is no push over. During his interview you can tell that he has respect for Hopkins.Posted August 4, 2014 7:30 am
Hopkins May have been born at night but he surely wasn’t born last night. Hopkins is seeing Felix Trinidad reincarnated in kovalev. He believes that he has already seen this movie and he was starring in it. To be honest, he may be right. Kovalev, pavilik, Trinidad all seemed to be cut from the same cloth. The biggest problem for kovalev is his success. Why? Because he has never gone past 8 rounds. I smell trouble. Average or just above average punchers with speed and relentless punching, even though they may be pitty-pat touches are the Alien’s kryptonite. Kovalev was made to order. Bhop by controversial split decision.Posted August 4, 2014 7:19 am
Kovalev won by 2nd round KO exactly as I predicted. My mom got to witness me proving all my friends wrong that had FOOLISHLY picked Caparello to win. Thanks mom for the little party. I consider you paid in full by getting to witness my fight picking powers. I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!Posted August 4, 2014 7:16 am
Peej: to follow up. If hop beats k in a pretty fair fight I would indeed acknowledge the win and give him props. No worries there. On the other hand, if it turns into a grappling blind sided punch fest with the head being pushed around then id also expect you to accept that the methodology used is outside the spirit of boxingPosted August 4, 2014 4:40 am
“Why would a guy who fought Leonard, Duran, Benitez and Hagler duck Kalambay?”
Because those guys weren’t interested in fighting Kalambay, Reggie Johnson, Mike McCallum, Nigel Benn, James Toney, or Michael Nunn either. They just weren’t.
There were attempts to match Hearns with Reggie Johnson, Mike McCallum, NIgel Benn, and Michael Nunn…
When attractive matchups with certain good boxer-punchers were offered—the Hearns team never seemed to be available.. It’s true you should not overmatch yourself, and also match yourself intelligently, but patterns emerge with certain fighters — who avoid appropriate matchups with physically tough, strong, skilled opponents, who can box and bang well.
With guys like Golovkin, Kovalev, Rigondeaux, or Lomachenko… any appropriate fighter in their division is somebody they will fight.Posted August 4, 2014 3:32 am
If the Aussie dropped the Russian so Easley b hop will beat him upPosted August 4, 2014 3:23 am
srminimo says.., “Why would a guy who fought Liston, Foreman and Frazier duck Holmes?”
Because Holmes was a master boxer… and they weren’t.
Liston was an old man… Foreman was a sucker for a deft jab… and Frazier was a short, fat, small, wide open left hooker… Foreman took advantage of Frazier’s small size. Why shouldn’t Ali?
Ali knew those guys were vastly overrated… and Holmes was underrated.Posted August 4, 2014 2:57 am
Adonis Stevenson is waiting for Hopkins… Kovalev will lose!! Remember Trinidad? Trinidad was supose to be a devastating puncher like Kovalev and he did sh!t !!Posted August 4, 2014 1:34 am
Tark- by that logic Primo Ramos was better than Julio Cesar Chavez, cause he beat Frankie Randall easy. Not fighting somebody doesn’t mean you ducked him. Maybe they did, I certainly cannot give a definitive answer. But why would a guy who fought Liston, Foreman and Frazier duck Holmes? Why would a guy who fought Leonard, Duran, Benitez and Hagler duck Kalambay? Surely not out of fear, I would venture.Posted August 4, 2014 12:33 am
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kovalev is getting the scalps in the exact order we want
of course ward will probably b!tch out thiughPosted August 4, 2014 12:13 am
When It comes to Hopkins you can expect a fight, a dirty fight and this one with the krusher ain’t going to be easy for both men. It’s hard to find a credible argument for Hopkins winning besides his experience. I expect a kovalev KO win. However if Hopkins gets his way by holding and making the fight a bore fest then his chances of winning become greater. Kudos to Hopkins for taking the fight, Stevenson has no other choice but to fight the winner.Posted August 4, 2014 12:03 am
I can’t wait for this one. Kovalev should win by UD (nobody is knocking B-Hop out).
Anonymous yeah I saw it. I like Kovolev but I must admit that shot looked like it barely touched its target.Posted August 3, 2014 10:51 pm
The old, steroid abusing, convict racist will get destroyed by the Krusher. This fight will show how pathetically weak the US society has become. This is a bridge too far, even for a boring, pitty pat, clinching, poor mans injury actor with home town ref and judges all by his side. Kovalev will still annihalate old Popkins and become a Unified Light Heaveyweight Champion of the WORLD!!!!Posted August 3, 2014 10:00 pm
srminimo says.., “Especially Ali and Hearns … these are all-time fighters in eras where the best really fought the best.”
No the best didn’t fight the best.. The best fought the cherry-picked and the cherry-picked fought the best.
Ali fought Leon Spinks instead of Larry Holmes… Ali never fought Holmes until he was sans a title and FLAT BROKE! How brave can you get?
Hearns ducked Mike McCallum, Michael Nunn, Nigel Benn, James Toney, Sumbu Kalambay, and Reggie Johnson…
But Tommy fought Iran Barkley… Barkley KO’d a 29-year-old Hearns… Barkley was supposed to be easy.
Barkley was easy for Michael Nunn, James Toney, Sumbu Kalambay, and Nigel Benn to beat — but not for Hearns — Barkley beat Hearns twice.Posted August 3, 2014 9:59 pm
10 racist cowards like Ali, good idea.Posted August 3, 2014 9:09 pm
ELL C is a moron. Kovalev needed a fix to beat that bum? Go jerk off with this Gr33nFather loser. These clowns partied in round 1 only to come crashing down 3 minutes later and left to make pathetic excuses. Losers.Posted August 3, 2014 9:07 pm
“Is everyone blind??? Didn’t anyone else see Kovalev wink at Caparello just prior to the TKO? Not a coincidence the ink was still wet on the contract with Hopkins. It was a fix.”
Ignorant a-hole. Nobody needs to fix a prohibitive mismatch you stupid fuk. And nobody would take the beating that fell to Caparello if he intended to let his opponent win.
He would do it like Oscar DLH did versus Hopkins… Take a light body shot, fall down, groan loudly in pain, and pound the canvas with his fist instead of crawling back to his feet 3 times to continue a savage beating.Posted August 3, 2014 9:06 pm
Kovalev s.u.c.kPosted August 3, 2014 8:46 pm
Boxing fan, you’re the one who’s clueless. The general idea was that pavlik might hurt the old man. Check the archives. Smh.Posted August 3, 2014 8:27 pm
Is everyone blind??? Didn’t anyone else see Kovalev wink at Caparello just prior to the TKO? Not a coincidence the ink was still wet on the contract with Hopkins. It was a fix.Posted August 3, 2014 8:12 pm
Tark- I don’t wanna jump on the bandwagon of people beefing with you, but I don’t get your thing of always trying to compare modern fighters to old timers by bashing the fighters from previous generations, especially Ali and Hearns. First of all, it’s all kind of a mute point, as there’s no way to prove it either way, but man, these are all-time fighters in eras where the best really fought the best. So what if Hearns didn’t have the best chin? More power to him for going as far as he did without being the sturdiest guy. And Ali? Listen everyone’s entitled to their opinion, but the man is not only an all timer and part of some of the greatest fights in history, he was a worldwide figure that transcended the sport and was an integral part of the world’s political, social and religious arenas in his time. I only wish we had ten like him today.Posted August 3, 2014 8:05 pm
The way Hopkins talks you can see he is s racist. as if he looks down on everyone when in truth he is just a b rated clean up fighter.Posted August 3, 2014 8:04 pm
Hopkins to me is a liar. In the Pascal fight word was spreading of steroid use. It doesn’t a uprising me, someone that fighats dirty will put that in his body to win a fight.Posted August 3, 2014 8:00 pm
B E A R S is Dan Rafael your dad? After all you are the spit of him and a fat pig, just like him.
Ben & Jerry
TARK has had BDD his entire life and has struggled with food and body issues, anorexia, bulemia and such for as long as he can remember.Posted August 3, 2014 7:17 pm
Ah just that fat loner TARK here talking to himself.Posted August 3, 2014 6:35 pm
Boxing Fan…, I don’t eat Ben & Jerry’s you fat sow..
I’m in great physical condition and have been an athlete all my life. I know more about nutrition than you know about jacking off… which you know a lot about.
I’m not a fanboy of Kovalev… He’s had several title fights and obliterated everybody in front of him… He’s proven… Hopkins turned down a fight with Cleverly in Wales.
Hopkins is a great fighter but has 6 losses… and hasn’t stopped anybody in 17 fights… He’s a feather hitter at lhw … so yes — it’s fair to say Kovalev will smash him.Posted August 3, 2014 6:11 pm
Boxing Fan.., When you say.., “Hill never lost before except to Tommy Hearns” you mean Hill never fought anybody before — except the China-Chinned Hearns who was 37..
This was after Hearns had been KO’d by Leonard… KO’d by Hagler… and KO’d by Barkley… Hearns was a tall skinny ZERO at LHW with no successful title defenses.
DM didn’t beat Griffin legitimately… Griffin was beating Michalczewski and got punched with a shot that really didn’t hurt him… The referee called an outrageous stoppage… If Griffin were allowed to continue he would have beaten the crap out of Michalczewski.
48 straight wins against tomato cans doesn’t mean a thing… If DM fought Woods… Jones… Hopkins… Tarver… and other top fighters he would have gotten his ass canned royally.
He never came to the United States because he didn’t want fair judging.
As it is… punchless slow poke, Julio Gonzales, beat him in Germany.Posted August 3, 2014 6:01 pm
too much risk, I meant…
And as for your comments about how Calzaghe and Michalczewski would do against Kovalev, it sounds to me like you’ve got a crush on “the krusher”, because those comments are ridiculous. Kovalev is a very promising prospect, but he’s as yet unproven against elite competition. We’ll have a better idea after the Hopkins fight (if it happens), but the kinds of fanboy statements you’re making there are premature at the very best.
I’ll leave you to your Ben and Jerry’s, fatty.Posted August 3, 2014 5:47 pm
Ah, the infallible wisdom of hindsight!
My point is that Michalczewski was the WBO, WBA and IBF light-heavyweight champion, holding the record for the most consecutive successful world title defenses at light-heavyweight, and had an 80% KO record against much the same opposition as RJJ was fighting. Clearly, the fight should have happened, but RJJ didn’t want it: took much risk to fight someone unknown to the American public, and whose name they could neither pronounce nor spell.
You say that Michalczewski “was never any good” because he lost to Gonzales after 48 fights undefeated, aged 35, yet you fail to mention that RJJ was KO’d in less than 5 minutes by Tarver at the same age. Also, you try to minimise Michalczewski’s win over Hall of Famer Virgil Hill, yet he defeated him by a wide margin, and he’d never lost before except to Tommy Hearns. Sure, RJJ subsequently caught him with a nice body shot and KO’d him in the fourth, but similarly Michalczewski KO’d Montell Griffin in 4 whereas RJJ failed to KO him in 9 and then him him while on the canvas, thus getting DQ’d.
Anyway, I have work to do, but my point stands: the fight should have taken place, but it didn’t, and it didn’t because RJJ didn’t want to risk it against a guy with an 80% KO average who at that time was KOing all his opponents (including 14 consecutive opponents after beating HOFer Virgil Hill).
I have to go.Posted August 3, 2014 5:42 pm
Dariusz Michalczewski would have been a one-round job for Sergei Kovalev.
Kovalev would have obliterated brittle hands Calzaghe inside of 5.
B-Hop won’t last that long.Posted August 3, 2014 5:21 pm
You are completely clueless. Pavlik was a green, one-dimensional Middleweight who had no business fighting at that weight, and already had drinking problems before the Hopkins fight. If you think Hopkins is going to stand and box Kovalev the way he did Pavlik, you’re living in fantasy land. I mean, I hope you’re right and that he does approach the fight that way (god knows we’ve had enough stinkers from the man!), but there isn’t a chance in hell that he will. In fact, I doubt he will even get into the ruing with Kovalev at the end of the day, but if he does he’ll be hugging and clinching and holding and using his head like he did against Calzaghe, not standing and boxing.Posted August 3, 2014 5:20 pm
Boxing Fan.., Dariusz Michalczewski was never any good… Slower than sht Julio Gonzales, an American light heavyweight, beat Michalczewski in Germany.
Roy Jones treated Gonzales like a 4-round fighter… knocking him down 3 times and beating him every round.
Michalczewski ducked Antonio Tarver when AT was his #1 contender. Tarver would have murdered him. All Michalczewski fought were bums. Roy Jones smashed feather punching Virgil Hill out in 4 rounds and DM couldn’t hurt him.Posted August 3, 2014 5:17 pm
Freddie Roach has called Kovalev “the best prospect in boxing”, but I guess the idiots here no better, right?Posted August 3, 2014 5:12 pm
wigger gr33 is gonna be awfully disappointed in november when his black dope gets put into a coma. too bad, wigger.Posted August 3, 2014 5:10 pm
This was the same talk before the pavlik fight. B hop schooled him so bad he went back to drinking. Keep saying how the old man will get destroyed and I hope vegas agrees with you. I might make some decent coin off the deal. Fact, whenever hops has been the underdog he put forth the best performances.Posted August 3, 2014 5:08 pm
Bill Patrice Jones claims.., “Kovalev is a beast pure natural don’t ever envision him being legitimately stopped in his division. Pure puncher, pure fighter.”
He’s NOT a pure puncher.. He’s one Hell of a boxer too…
If the Ward fight is ever made you’ll see Kovalev’s boxing skills used to the max. Up to now he hasn’t had the competition to bring them out—but you did see a sample in the 1st round of the Ismayel Sillakh fight.. He hit the speedy World Amateur Champion and Gold Medal Winning Sillakh with 4 straight jabs to the stomach.. The skilled Sillakh tried to counter with rights each time… and each time missing big.
Roy Jones, who predicted Sillakh would be LHW champ, must have been amazed by that.
Kovalev also out-boxed undefeated, 27-0, LHW Champion Nathan Cleverly very easily before stopping him early.Posted August 3, 2014 5:04 pm
Calzaghe was badly managed by Warren who set him up for fights with a lot of fighters just *after* they lost their world title belts (often in robberies in Germany), so he didn’t get the chance to unify the division till the fight with Kessler.
However, to be fair, Warren did try to get a fight with Hopkins in 2002, and it was all but signed when Hopkins suddenly doubled his demands overnight, thus pricing himself out of the fight. They also tried to get a fight with Roy Jones Jr, but he and his management weren’t interested, and when asked about it later RJJ said it was “too risky” a fight earlier in his career.
And that’s the fact of the matter. Calzaghe was poorly managed, and while the likes of Hopkins and RJJ were well aware of him, they deemed it too risky a fight, since Calzaghe had a great chin and threw more than a thousand punches per fight, and they feared they’d lose by decision. Why risk that against a fighter virtually unknown in the United States? Too much risk for too little reward.
For similar reasons, RJJ ducked Michalczewski (who was 48-0 with 38 KOs in 2003) for many years:
“On 13 June 1997, Michalczewski defeated Virgil Hill over 12 rounds to add Hill’s Lineal, WBA, & IBF titles to his own. However, Michalczewski soon lost both alphabet titles. The WBA stripped him for displaying its belt along with that of the WBO, an organization it didn’t recognize. The IBF did so a few weeks later, when Michalczewski was unable to defend his title in a court-ordered defense against mandatory challenger William Guthrie within a little over a month.
After beating Hill, Michalczewski knocked out 14 consecutive opponents, all in defense of his Lineal/WBO titles. In 1998, he defeated Drake Thadzi, in 1999 he defeated Montel Griffin, and in 2000 he defeated Graciano Rocchigiani.
Darius would attempt for six years to secure a bout with his American counterpart, Roy Jones Jr, without success. After his titles were stripped from Dariusz, Jones would win Michalczewski’s belts and spuriously declare himself “undisputed world champion”. Jones steadfastly refused all offers for a lucrative fight with Darius and even made an attempt to ban the mention of Michalczewski’s name on his home network, HBO. Seth Abraham, president and CEO of HBO, refused Jones’ demand and in 2002 a fan poll showed that the fight fans most wanted to see was Darius Michalczewski vs Roy Jones Jr. Jones continued to refuse offers for the fight.”Posted August 3, 2014 5:03 pm
Hopkins knows he can beat Kovalev easy but he’s not so sure about Stevenson, thats why he hand picked Kovalev.Posted August 3, 2014 5:01 pm
I really believe that Kovalev will be too much for Bernard. Jackson his trainer know Hopkins well.Posted August 3, 2014 4:57 pm
I am shocked Hopkins is taking this fight. Is this extremely reckless or genius?Posted August 3, 2014 4:50 pm
D hopkins never got stopped he is not getting stopped in a weaker generation fighters from light heavyweight ddivision hopkins will win the either split decision or unanimous hopkins will then beat the coward stevenson if he quit ducking and man upPosted August 3, 2014 4:25 pm
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after kovalev takes nard and adonis both out provided theres an end to adonis running than kovalev vs ward must be made
i dont know if adonis will ever stop running as he has gone to great lengths to run from kovalev that goldon boy and haymon were about to be sued. the lawsuit is what forced kovalev vs nard hop to happen. now there will be no lawsuit. dan raphael wrote all about it on espn/boxingPosted August 3, 2014 4:03 pm
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its just the way it would be for the sredmond types in the world. they are racist. u can find sredmond on any klitschko kovalev or 3g thread hating. stage is set for kovalev to get EVERYTHING set up for him.Posted August 3, 2014 3:44 pm
Kovalev will finally put hopkins out or hopkins will once again do the unthinkable. Either way it will b ineresting. Cant wait!!Posted August 3, 2014 3:43 pm
@eric. Joe could have waited and foufht in thesuper six tournament. He never really fought any one great in their prime. His greatest win was hopkins, but that was a very close fight. Roy jones was done, lacy was nothing but hype. Think joe is a good fighter, but he left when he finally had competition. Dont think it has to do with race. PeacePosted August 3, 2014 3:42 pm
“then ward will have to represent the black cause”
What makes Ward “black” rather “than “white”? He father is “white”, and that’s who first taught him to box.
I’m tired of all the fukcing racists round here! Get over it!Posted August 3, 2014 3:25 pm
What makes Kovalev so hard to deal with is that even when Kovalev’s oponents use a defensive guard effectively and block his shots Via Ceddrick Agnew. His opponents still endup getting hurt by the shear force even if his punches are blocked. Which that kind of punching power is a special gift from the boxing gods My suggestion for Kovalev to prepare for Hoppkins is to use Agnew as sparring partner. Not that Agnew is as skilled as Hopkins but fights a similar defensive style Hopkins uses. Also it is a known fact no matter how good a shape one is when one fights, father time will eventualy show up. I predict a late round stoppage for Kovalev, With Kovalevs punches causing Hopkins to feel his age. On a round or two Hopkins may FRUSTRATE HOPKINS BUT KOVALEV ADJUST TO THE TRICKERYPosted August 3, 2014 3:23 pm
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kovalev absolutely krushes bernard
the kovalev krushes adonis
then ward will have to represent the black cause and step to light heavy where kovalev will reap his scalp and go down as an ATG scalp realer extremePosted August 3, 2014 3:22 pm
“It will be an embarrassing wakening when he gets beaten by a 50 year old bald black American.”
Yes, I guess you will feel a little embarrassed when you wake up and realize it was all a dream.Posted August 3, 2014 3:18 pm
Kovalev has only beaten bums. It will be an embarrassing wakening when he gets beaten by a 50 year old bald black American.Posted August 3, 2014 3:16 pm
“hopkins beats kovalev by ud”
victor ortiz would have a better chance of beating mayweather by ud.Posted August 3, 2014 2:18 pm
A WARNING TO BERNHARD “THE RACIST” HOPKINS
“Russian light heavyweight boxer Roman Simakov, who collapsed in the ring on Monday night during a title defense, died overnight of brain injuries in a Yekaterinburg hospital, an official said Thursday.
Simakov collapsed a minute into the seventh round after enduring a torrent of clubbing rights and lefts from compatriot Sergei Kovalev, falling immediately into a coma from which he never emerged.”Posted August 3, 2014 2:04 pm
The internet KKK is trying to bridge PEEJ, cool.Posted August 3, 2014 2:00 pm
Hopkins beats kovalev by udPosted August 3, 2014 1:51 pm
“Black people still crying about Calzaghe beating their racist POS hero well over 6 years after it happened. Racist FOOLS”
Many are self hating whites like PEEJ. It isn’t just blacks. PEEJ is 1000% worse because he pulls for a racist pr1ck that hates him. But then again, PEEJ hates himself.Posted August 3, 2014 1:47 pm
Time for a lesson of ‘how it’s done’.Posted August 3, 2014 1:44 pm
PEEJ is the biggest self hating white/wigger moron this site has ever seen. Sucks to be him. Hopkins hates you, yet you pull for him. What a complete loser you are.Posted August 3, 2014 1:44 pm
Do you call what Hopkins did against Calzaghe “schooling”? If so, I guess you mean the school of clinching, holding, smothering, spoiling, faking injury, and walking in with the head.
Moron.Posted August 3, 2014 1:38 pm
Yep, that’s the excuse that the Hopkins fans will have ready: “Yeah, but he was nearly 50 dude!”
We don’t care. We just want to see him get get his racist trap shut.
And if Kovalev does KO Hopkins, that WILL be a big deal, despite him being (a very young) 49-year-old, because no one has come close to doing it.
As for its significance in boxing terms, it means unifying the IBF, WBA, and WBO belts, and setting up a showdown with Stevenson (who will have nowhere to hide) to add the WBF and Ring titles. Then Kovalev will be the first fighter in history, I believe, to have all the straps at the same time.
A “no win situation” ofr Kovalev? Yeah right. Whatever.Posted August 3, 2014 1:36 pm
Time to a boxing lesson.Posted August 3, 2014 1:32 pm
And when kov gets schooled, will see how many of his “fans” are still hanging around.Posted August 3, 2014 1:30 pm
Awe lighten up a little it’s not that serious. Quit sting like you’re a victim with hurt fillings. The bottom line is you don’t get major props for beating old men, even if you think they’re racists. Hopkins is old, Kovelev has to win, which is really a no win situation other than picking up another strap.Posted August 3, 2014 1:19 pm
“It’s not often that fans get excited about the chance to see a 50 year old fighter get beat in the ring. Lol”
Yeah well, we make exceptions for racist cheats. If Hopkins gets seriously injured, spare me the tears eh? I can have no sympathy for someone like that in a situation like this. He knows the risks he’s taking on such a dangerous fighter at his age, and if he underestimates Kovalev because he thinks he’s just a “white boy” (thus all the comparisons he’s made with Pavlik, saying it’ll be “even easier to beat Kovalev than Pavlik), it’ll be a lesson well learned when he wakes up in hospital.Posted August 3, 2014 1:15 pm
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adonis stevenson has gotten so PHUCKED in all this it is funny as hell. adonis has looked like a chump throughout it all his stock has plummeted so bad. he almost got his promoters sued!! now serg gets nard hop scalp!!! and if adonis somehow grows a sack, kovalev will get his scalp too!!!!! this is soooooo perfect for KOVALEV MY MAN!!!!!
im so happy everyone took a giant sh!t on adonis and kovalev called him a piece of sh!t again. even bernard said adonis just would not step.
hey adonis arn’t u fighting some sh!tty fight with pascal? no one is interested son!!!Posted August 3, 2014 12:55 pm
@leedsnproud@B E A R S
Agreed, as I said down the thread:
Despite all the bluster, I seriously doubt Hopkins will ever actually step into the ring with Kovalev. And even if he does, once he starts feeling the power of Kovalev’s punches, he’ll find a way to fake an injury so that he can’t continue.Posted August 3, 2014 12:53 pm
It’s not often that fans get excited about the chance to see a 50 year old fighter get beat in the ring. LolPosted August 3, 2014 12:50 pm
Exactly, as I said further down: Honestly speaking, has Hopkins ever been in a memorable fight?Posted August 3, 2014 12:49 pm
At least hopkins takes on the best challenges out there. No catchweights or cherry picks. floyd and pac should learn from this old man….Posted August 3, 2014 12:41 pm
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what a christmas delight!! been waiting and hoping for this fight for so long!! kovalev will DESTROY nard if nard actually fights and does not back out with a bunk excuse which is what i expect more than a fight. but after nard hop was inthe post fight interview talkin smack he will be ridiculed if he does it
if this fight happens we see a “whiteboy” destroy bernard and we get the best fight tape of bernards entire career. most likely bernard will fake injury and it will show how much of a complete dishonorable pu$$ he isPosted August 3, 2014 12:36 pm
The fight will go ahead and Hopkins will feign injury in the early rounds. Big payday,boxing public the only losers again.Posted August 3, 2014 11:59 am
Look Hopkins is a tough fight for anyone and he already is an ATG. Is he a dirty fighter yes, but no dirtier than Holy with his head or some other fighters. Like him or not he uses everything he can to his advantage. I think Serhey has a good shot at beating Hopkins, but no one blows hopkins out. If Hopkins wins it doesn’t mean Sergey was overhyped, just that he lost to some one that uses every trick in the book and knows how to bend the rules. Hopkins head is rock hard, so if Sergey goes head hunting he loses, luckily that is not his game. Personally I think Sergey goes to the body enough to hurt Hopkins and wins via UD. Hopkins can’t hurt Sergey, and Sergey will be the best body puncher Hopkins ever faced. I see a good competitive fight.Posted August 3, 2014 11:49 am
sean p h
None peej. If hop wins he is one of best of all time. Hopefully he will fight like a man instead holding clinching throwing low blows and crying to the ref when kov starts knocking his punkass down and out.Posted August 3, 2014 11:38 am
So then basically y’all already have excuses for if Kovalev losesPosted August 3, 2014 11:22 am
To answer your question: if Hopkins beats Kovalev, ina genuine boxing match, with no cheating (including excessive holding and clinching) allowed, it will be a FUKCING MIRACLE!
The only way I see it happening, however, is if the referee allows Hopkins to get away with as much holding and clinching as he did against Calzaghe, such that Kovalev’s punches are constantly smothered. If that happens, it won’t make him great: it’ll just make him Bernhard Hopkins, a man who will be remembered for: (1) having been around an astonishingly long time at the top; (2) the oldest world champion; (3) one of the most elusive, but also one of the dirtiest and most boring fighters in the game; (4) a man who was around for decades yet never had a memorable fight, or even a fight you’d want to see twice; and (5) being a delusional racist, an insufferable egotist, and and all-round scumbag.Posted August 3, 2014 11:15 am
@The Bible of Boxing
Absolutely SPOT ON about Hopkins!Posted August 3, 2014 11:08 am
And when hopkins schools the krusher, Pavlik style, well see what the excuses are then. If he beats kov and the pimp at age 50, not only should he be put at #1 p4p currently but should also be rated as a top 10 ATG.Posted August 3, 2014 10:41 am
I am not looking for excuses or theories on what would need to occurs for Hopkins to win. Let’s say it was fair. Would there be a reason like Kovalev was overrated or exposed or will people say Hopkins is great. That’s all I’m askingPosted August 3, 2014 10:37 am
Bible of Boxing in your description of Hopkins fighting you forgot: Do five pushups…Posted August 3, 2014 10:22 am
Tomato Caparello knocked down the highly touted Kovalev. Sergey looked like crap for 1 1/2 rounds. Fortunately, Caparello was about as threatening as fettuccini.Posted August 3, 2014 10:21 am
I think Hopkins has finally bit more than he can chew with this kid. Bhops kryptonite is volume punching and Kovalev can do it with power. The venerable Bernard gets kO’d.Posted August 3, 2014 10:18 am
Peej: I imagine that for Hopkins to beat K the ref will need to aid him by not enforcing the rules of boxing, will allow excessive holding and head lunges, blind side rabbit and low punches, and indulge Hopkins Hollywood acting feigning injury or whatever he can come up with. This is his MO. He has perfected it. I wish he would disappear from the boxing scene. He is a curr on the sport in my opinion. I don’t normally wish people I’ll, but in this case, in really would like to see him KOd by a European. That really would be poetic justice.Posted August 3, 2014 10:00 am
The Bible of Boxing, Your summary of Hopkins is perfect.Posted August 3, 2014 9:58 am
The Bible of Boxing
This is a quick description of a B-hop fight. Feint, feint, feint.
Paw, paw, paw, grab, clinch, clinch again. Jab, miss, but hit with forearm. Feint, turn, walk away, walk away again. Look menacing, grimace, feint, hug, hug, squeeze. Have an org asm.
Paw, paw, grab, forearm to face, try to wrestle, feint, feint miss with right hand led but land forearm.
How many rds is that? 3? Okay. Ditto, ditto, ditto for the rest of the fight.
When the decision is announced he accelerates his acting ability by convincing fans like Peej, that he actually won the fight, did not clinch, did not foul, did not hug and he did everything possible to make an interesting fight.
For example, in the Calzaghe fight, he was not tired and in danger of being ko-ed from exhaustion, and in fact was fouled. He deserved to win but only lost becuase they do not like him as he is (insert whatever word or excuse you want); his favourite is obviously because he is black.
GTFOH!. I am a black man and love all styles of fighters regardless of race or nationality. My favs range from Ali, Frazier, Robinson, Salvador Sanchez, Jones, Sweet Pea, Hearns, Monzon, Jake Lamotta, Louis, Pacman etc.
Black people still crying about Calzaghe beating their racist POS hero well over 6 years after it happened. Racist FOOLSPosted August 3, 2014 9:25 am
So if Hopkins wins will it be because he is great or because Kovalev was overrated or exposed? Just wanna know what folks will say if it happensPosted August 3, 2014 9:17 am
KOvalev is a puncher, a Krusher..he PUNCHEs his opponents, he doesn’t “slap” them like Calzaghe does.
You do understand the difference between “slapping” and “punching”.Posted August 3, 2014 9:06 am
Sergey likely to do even better against Hopkins considering Nard is 6 years older from 2008 and Kova is a brutal puncher. If Hopkins makes the final bell, he’ll have done well.Posted August 3, 2014 8:40 am
Calzaghe gave Bernard Hopkins a drubbin’ and a whuppin’!Posted August 3, 2014 8:35 am
Don’t read the fake posting as me. It’s basically the same person who can’t keep my name out his post. I’ve always said Calaghe beat Hopkins. He out worked him. But Hokins did more damage in the fight. Calghe out worked himPosted August 3, 2014 7:57 am
Well cal fans need to quit trying to piggyback off of hops accomplishments. If thats the case taylor fans need to chime in. Oh and at least taylor proved in a rematch.Posted August 3, 2014 7:36 am
“Joe got a SD win and it wont nothing dominating about it.”
Hmm, good English there.
True, Calzaghe didn’t dominate that fight, but it’s hard to dominate a fighter in boxing who keeps running in to hug you so that you can’t get your punches off.
Now I’ll leave you to get back to sniffing your own faeces (unlike Calzaghe, you can’t afford coke).Posted August 3, 2014 7:29 am
So, according to you, Joe Calzaghe, undefeated Hall of Fame boxer, WBO Super Middleweight champion for over 11 years, and one of the precious few fighters ever to win all the major belts (WBO, WBA, IBF, WBC, & Ring) in his division, was “a joke”.
So, now: what does that make YOU?Posted August 3, 2014 7:26 am
Joe got a SD win and it wont nothing dominating about it. B hop wanted a rematch on joes side of the pond and the coke head took his ball and left. B hop underestimated joes endurance and activity and joe was smart enough to realize b hop wouldnt underestimate him again in a second go. Now let him sniff his lines.Posted August 3, 2014 7:21 am
Two opinions on Joe Calzaghe, undefeated 46-0, former WBO, IBF, WBC, WBA & Ring Super Middleweight Champion, Ring Light Heavyweight Champion, and Ring 2008 #3 P4P fighter in the world:
“Joe Calzaghe is a phenomenal fighting machine. He’s in a zone all by himself.” — Manny Steward (R.I.P.)
“Slappy Joe was a joke” — “Anonymous”Posted August 3, 2014 7:20 am
Very well said.
PEEJ has serious issues, and is best ignored.Posted August 3, 2014 7:08 am
Slappy Joe was a jokePosted August 3, 2014 6:26 am
Peej you are making yourself look silly now.Posted August 3, 2014 6:10 am
How the fcuk can anybody have Calzaghe winning when he landed damn near no legal punches? Lot of people need to read up on basic boxing rules
FCUK Joe Calzaghe..Posted August 3, 2014 5:46 am
Great win. Stopping fights to early these days.Posted August 3, 2014 5:43 am
Look PEEJ, what you should do right now, is go get a picture of yourself, get a pen, and draw a picture of a p3nis, with some big hairy balls going into your mouth.
Because that is what is happening on this board, and I think you need to see a visual representation of it to understand, just how far the collective phallus has driven itself into your willing mouth, before sending forth a gushing foamy spray of JMM’s favourite nightcap.
You think Hopkins landed the more effective punches – how many pray tell – because I have him landing about 3 meaningful punches across 12 rounds, the rest were of no better quality than Calzaghes.
IF, and this is a big IF they were more effective then how come Calzaghe wasn`t the guy wheezing pretending to have been hit low so that he can try to buy a few seconds respite from the over-riding beating he was starting to get? If Calzaghe was not landing effective blows, why does Hopkins need to be doing that, and clinching all the time?
You might have a case in 3 of 9 rounds, but in the rest what you have is Hopkins spoiling, while Calzaghe tries to work, and in all of the mess Calzaghe lands 10 semi blocked punches to Bernards 2 semi-blocked punches.
Learn how to score a fight round by round, and then open your mouth for some more spray, and let me tell you, this fruity hot stream is going to be a good one because I have been on the asparagus.Posted August 3, 2014 4:52 am
The great thing abut Kovalev is that punches so hard that he really doesn’t need to set them up and really go looking for the KO. He can go into the ring and just box against anyone, it seems, and his punches are so hurtful that his opponents fold.Posted August 3, 2014 4:35 am
I just watched Hopkins’ interviews after the fight on Youtube. My god, what a sad, idiotic, self-obsessed W A N K E R that man is! He holds court as if he’s some profound genius casting pearls to the swine, but all he’s really saying is “ME! ME ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME!”. The journalists must all be thinking “what a complete T W A T !”. Honestly, personality-wise he’s even more of an insufferable p r i c k than Mayweather — and in the ring he’s even less interesting to watch.
Honestly speaking, has Hopkins ever been in a memorable fight?
Despite all the bluster, I seriously doubt Hopkins will ever actually step into the ring with Kovalev. And even if he does, once he starts feeling the power of Kovalev’s punches, he’ll find a way to fake an injury so that he can’t continue.
Either way, there’s no this criminal-minded racist scumbag is going to stand and fight against someone like Kovalev, and thus receive the beating that he so richly deserves.Posted August 3, 2014 4:32 am
Against Calzaghe Hopkins tried to turn the fight into a love-in, constantly running in for hugs to smother Calzaghe’s punches. Against Kovalev he says he wants to turn it into a “chess match”. Unfortunately for Hopkins, Kovalev doesn’t do chess.Posted August 3, 2014 4:18 am
PEEJ still running that same old factless story about Hopkins vs Calzaghe. PEEj cant accept that all his boys are getting beaten by superior fighters of a different skin tone and nationality. This is what happens to brain washed drones who think the world starts and ends with the borders of their cesspool of a country. Typical of PEEJ to bring the race card into it because he has no real argument that Calzaghe demolished and destroyed Hopkins into a cheating, fake-acting p.u$$.y that hid in the corner.Posted August 3, 2014 4:12 am
Calzaghe had power until his hands went. What he achieved with broken hands is amazing. Amazing achievement.Posted August 3, 2014 4:09 am
There’s no way Hopkins beat Calzaghe. It was relatively close, as both fighters have severe flaws: c has no power; Hopkins has no combo punching unless you include his flying head. Hopkins clinches more than latter day Ali. It was a terrible fight, if those two were the best in their division it’s a sad situation.Posted August 3, 2014 4:05 am
So Hopkins and Kovalev have signed for a unification bout. About time that runner Hopkins faced the music and got his head ripped off…….again……by another “white boy”.Posted August 3, 2014 4:04 am
Bill Patrice Jones
Kovalev is a beast pure natural don’t ever envision him being legitimately stopped in his division. Pure puncher, pure fighter.Posted August 3, 2014 3:39 am
brza da originator
Bhop u what a fighters . Ur lookin at a legendPosted August 3, 2014 3:29 am
Well.. that’s because you all believe Kovalev is a god but in fact he’s a hype job, Hopkins and Stevenson will brutalise him, no head movement, no ring movement… he’s like an injured cow in the lion’s denPosted August 3, 2014 3:12 am
You have to be a special kind of loser to feel good about a guy getting knocked down after being stepped on when that guy came back and KTFO his opponent in the very next round – Brutally. I guess these DWF’s need to feel good about the little things these days.Posted August 3, 2014 3:05 am
“I’m white dick head…”
Ah, another self hating “DWF.”
Go watch the second round again, wigger, and then come back and tell us what happened.Posted August 3, 2014 3:03 am
no stepped on… a straight right on the buttonPosted August 3, 2014 2:52 am
Sour Grapes: I’m white dick head…Posted August 3, 2014 2:49 am
Look at this black moron below feeling good because Kovalev went down after getting his foot stepped on. I guess youu didn’t stick around to watch what happened in the second round, eh, black boy?Posted August 3, 2014 2:42 am
HAHHAHAHAHHA Kovalev went down in the first round pathetic piece of s.h.i.tPosted August 3, 2014 2:39 am
Hopkins won the fight. He scored the only knock down and landed all the harder, noteworthy punches. Except for the punch to Hopkins groin area I can’t recall any significant punch Calzaghe landed. Calzaghe was busier. But they were all illegal slaps and arm punches. His usage of smoke and mirrors was outstanding. I’ll give him that. It’s what gave him this undeserved win.
As for the hypothetical rematch? Pretty simple. There’s a reason Hopkins pushed and pushed for a rematch. And while Calzaghe didn’t.Posted August 3, 2014 2:34 am
Not sure kovolevs guy John David Jackson ever “trained” Hopkins
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“joes slapping didnt do it for you”
what went down peej is joe cal through copious amounts of punches which creates copious amounts of opportunities for nard which he could not exploit because joe was not slapping or bernard could have walked through him.
bernard for strait STOLE ON by a white boy. its tough for you to swallow but thats the reality. plus Bernard’s a clear piece of sh!t your going ridiculously over board for.
mongrel summed it up best joe cal made nard look a biatch with fake low blow take all day to re coup deAl. what a turd.
u seriously have a shanty case peej its comedy to mePosted August 3, 2014 2:24 am
Kovalev was awesome. Kovalev’s trainer used to train Hopkins, so that will help. Hopkins will headbutt, hold, use his elbows, fake low blows, land low blows, Hopkins has always been a dirty fighter. Dawson sure kicked his arse, so did Jones, Calzaghe, Taylor, etc. Kovalev has to knock Hopkins out because the judges and referee will be for Hopkins as proven tonight with the evil ref Count Dracula………………
DOES EVERYBODY POST TO QUICKLY?Posted August 3, 2014 2:18 am
I scored the fight for Hopkins by 2 rounds I believe. I based it mostly on EFFECTIVE punching. Joe’s slapping didn’t do it for me, sorry guys. I feel Hopkins will beat Kovalev even worse in November but hopefully he gets the decision this time.Posted August 3, 2014 2:17 am
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awesome posts from tark and mongrel. well said you guys
peej, sadly its u mentioning race and u who seems to have an issue with it. if race played a part it was the part bernard had it play with his fubar racial remarks
i too wonder if nard hop will weasel out of the kovalev fight. it all depends on how money he is offered.
kovalev vs hopkins should be called
kovale vs hopkins “bernards racewar”
and show quotes and replays of the infamous “i will not loose to a whiteboy”Posted August 3, 2014 2:14 am
I had it 115-113 for Hopkins. Calzaghe was busier, but Hopkins landed better punches.Posted August 3, 2014 2:10 am
Good call EuroBox I can see Hopkins faking an injury and what I would love to see KovalevPunishes Hopkns While he is Faking Land a vicous asalt of Combinations Hopkins knock down once the refcall the a knockout punishing Hopkins for faking injury. Hopkins protested the outcome saying if I did not throw my shoulder out I would have whooped his asPosted August 3, 2014 2:10 am
Plus his corner didn`t think he was r@ped. Telling someone they need the last round is simply motivational, especially when you are away from home and you don`t know what the judges are thinking.
Classically a Vegas judge is going to be a bit more Harold Lederman (Action, pressure, go forward guy) than an average judge, but also money talks in Vegas, and so Calzaghes team had to be wary of the fix.Posted August 3, 2014 2:07 am
you can* have admiration for fundamentals… etcPosted August 3, 2014 2:05 am
Lederman had it to Calzaghe about 116-111. All the announcers had it to Calzaghe.
It wasn`t even that difficult of a fight to score unless you are trying to give sympathy rounds to Hopkins because he half lands a scruffy lead right hand then gets outpeppered the rest of the round.
Calzaghe landed more punches on Hopkins than anyone ever has. He won clear even after dropping 2 points for a flash knockdown.
He even won away from home, where lets be honest foreign fighters very often get robbed vs Americans (Lara-Williams, Abril-Rios, Cloud-Campillo, Lewis-Holyfield etc).
Sorry, but what people are doing is over-assigning credit to Hopkins in that fight because (1) He was older and (2) He made it scrappy.
I say congrats Bernard for making it your kind of fight. But EVEN THOUGH he made it his kind of fight he lost 9 rounds to 3, and he cheated, and complained, and moaned, and tried to buy time when he was under big pressure. He got made into a beeatch.
Added to that, there is actually a degree of questioning about thee knockdown, since the punch didn`t put him down, so much as off balance, and it was then Hopkins pushing forward which actually finished the job.
So no, you can`t have some admiration for the fundamentals, defence and spoiling of Hopkins in that fight but he didn`t do as much damage, in as many rounds, and he deserved to lose.
His antics prefight about not losing to a white boy meant he deserved no rematch or respect either.Posted August 3, 2014 2:03 am
I thought Caparello might be a one-round job for Kovalev.. The 1st knock-down didn’t result from a punch but a stepped on foot.
I’m not sure if Kovalev-Hopkins will happen.. I don’t see how Hopkins gets out of the early rounds. He’s won’t be ahead if he does, and gets killed late either way.
Hopkins didn’t like pressure from feather-punching, brittle-fisted Joe Calzaghe.. Pressure from the murderous punching Kovalev would be a nightmare.
Dawson was an outstanding boxer with average strength, no power, and zero toughness.. Yet Hopkins couldn’t get anything positive happening against CD.
Kovalev is an outstanding boxer with great strength, great power, and iron toughness. He doesn’t get ripped like Pavlik… Trinidad… Allen… Glen Johnson… Taylor… Pascal… Calzaghe… Dawson… Cloud… Jones… and the other hittable guys Hopkins fought.
Tarver was the best fighter Hopkins ever beat — but AT lost 50 pounds in a very short training camp. He was dead on his feet… AT said he had the strength of a church mouse for Hopkins, he felt so weak.Posted August 3, 2014 2:02 am
Joe was planning to retire while Hopkins planned to continue contributing to the sport of boxing, yet they gave the decision over to Joe, the quitter loser. Color was definately a factor in the results and in the comments here. Some racist SOB’s here. Even Joe and his corner knew they were raped mentally and physically in the fight.Posted August 3, 2014 1:58 am
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well peej your in the company of adelaide byrd than and thats not good company to keep to say the least.
as i said noone credible would concur with those viewsPosted August 3, 2014 1:49 am
Get over the BHop Calzaghe fight,it was so close many rounds could be left to the eye of the beholder.Do you think the Bhop Kovalev fight will end as such?It is highly unlikely that BHop can be so Alien as to pull off another match that seems out of this world.Remember Kovalev is no Shumenov,who had less fights than BHop had title defenses.I am afraid that Kovalev is the real deal of the gambit of light heavyweight champions.Eventually Superman and the crusher should meet.,they are closer in age.Can BHop take him in to deep water?And would it matter?Posted August 3, 2014 1:48 am
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scoring for joe in the nard fight was obvious as two judges got it right and one judge is notoriously the worst judge in boxing history judge adelaide byrd.
judge adelaide byrd is seriously the worst judge in history take a look at all the gems and headlines and whacked out cards this judge has had in boxrec
we all know adelaid byrd as the worst of all timePosted August 3, 2014 1:47 am
Hopkins did outdo Calzaghe that night, he was hustling him and he did it well enough to win in my view.Posted August 3, 2014 1:36 am
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joe cal beat nard hopkins who is a present day about to fight kovalev. nuf said reallyPosted August 3, 2014 1:34 am
Calzaghe is a fighter that benefited from fighting in a weak division in a weak region of the world. It’s no secret that during his reign as Champion the best fighters were either Light Heavyweights or Middleweights and it’s no secret that the better talent was in the United States not Europe. Joe Calzaghe went roughly nine years before he ever faced a current title holder, in my opinion, that sounds like someone who was padding their record.Posted August 3, 2014 1:10 am
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there is no legitimate case to be made that hopkins won vs joe cal in any way. u wont find any pro analyst or anyone around the sport saying bernard won. saying bernard won is just waaY out in left fieldPosted August 3, 2014 1:07 am
Joe threw more punches and landed more punches statistically, which is impressive, however, this isn’t Olympic Boxing and punch statistics don’t always reflect the distrubtuion and effectiveness. I think it was Bernard who had the more meaningful shots. Bernard gave Joe all he could handle and IMO, won that fight.Posted August 3, 2014 1:04 am
Also Hopkins has a sexy bum, much nicer than any other fighter I have seen.Posted August 3, 2014 1:04 am
Peej, how dod Hopkins win that fight, all he did was hold, complain to the ref, and fake low blows… JC landed more punches than anyone ever landed on B Hop. I will say that Calzaghe wasn’t that impressive in that fight, but it was by far the worst I ever saw Bernard perform.. no way he won.Posted August 3, 2014 12:59 am
Calzghe made hopkins look like a p ussy, a cheat, did you watch the fight?Posted August 3, 2014 12:49 am
No he did not.Posted August 3, 2014 12:48 am
I’m sorry but Hopkins beat Calzaghe.Posted August 3, 2014 12:46 am
This fight won’t happen.Posted August 3, 2014 12:41 am
Hopkins must be concerned with the powerful body shots that Kovalev can deliver. If Hopkins is the recipient of one of those quality body shots, then he, Hopkins, will lose by t.k.o. or k.o. By the way, I’ll make my opinion clear that if Hopkins fights Kovalev (that is – nothing prevents the fight from happening), then Hopkins will lose by t.k.o. or k.o.).Posted August 3, 2014 12:40 am
Calzage beat Hopkins away, and Hopkins cheated, it was not a split decision, Calzaghe won that with the Boxing fans easily, .,Posted August 3, 2014 12:37 am
PEEJ popping in to add…..nothing. The douche didn’t see the damn fight.Posted August 3, 2014 12:33 am
Rios looked terrible as usual. Kov is a beast.Posted August 3, 2014 12:29 am
Sean p h you are wrong and you know you are wrong. I comment on all boxing. Don’t be a wank like this other idiot who constantly post as other people. And I picked Kovalev to win on top of that and I have yet to make a pick between him and HopkinsPosted August 3, 2014 12:23 am
Don’t think the DQ was warranted at the time it happened but that head lock take down was surely enough for a DQ and fine in my book. Look like WWF Madaina style.Posted August 3, 2014 12:22 am
Congrats to Rios! Chaves could have caused serious injury in that last round – with that headlock take-down. Chaves was ridiculous throughout the fight. Congrats to the ref for courageously being & doing what he should!Posted August 3, 2014 12:20 am
I don’t think anyone will murder B hop. Too smart. He nullifies his opponents strength and makes it ugly. I hate the holding and lack of action he brings, but he is as smart as they come. It’s hard for me to watch B hop and I will never pay to see him so I hope it’s free.Posted August 3, 2014 12:19 am
Lol contract was signed for B hop to fight Kov in November if Kov won tonight so it’s already a done deal @ Sean.Posted August 3, 2014 12:16 am
Terrible referring in the Rios fight on both sides. I think Rios would have lost without the DQ.Posted August 3, 2014 12:15 am
Joe beat hop by two points. Kov by murder. Hops in a bodybag.Posted August 3, 2014 12:13 am
sean p h
What contract? Who you name calling over the internet?Posted August 3, 2014 12:11 am
The contract is already signed fool.Posted August 3, 2014 12:09 am
sean p h
Peej no girl. Lmao. He only comment on the brothers.Posted August 3, 2014 12:07 am
sean p h
Bhop will never fight kov. Never.Posted August 3, 2014 12:05 am
sean p h
Kov knocks bhop the fick out.Posted August 3, 2014 12:04 am
brza da originator
Bhop is the man it could be his greteast victoryPosted August 2, 2014 11:59 pm
PEEJ, the DWF, no one cares where you are and you don’t have a girl. You didn’t see the fight so don’t drop in and check in. You have nothing to add.Posted August 2, 2014 11:55 pm
sean p h
Kov is not a man. He is a machine.Posted August 2, 2014 11:55 pm
sean p h
Smh? Fick is that?Posted August 2, 2014 11:54 pm
Lets put the hatin aside and give it up to both of these athletes for breaking the cold war and doing the right thing by making the fight that most of the fans want to see. The top two lightheavies getting in the ring, I applaud them both bravo gentlemen.Posted August 2, 2014 11:51 pm
sean p h
Kov. Best lhw in the world. Stevenson step up and bhop step up to get knocked out.Posted August 2, 2014 11:51 pm
Didn’t get to see the fight cause I am here in Oklahoma with my girl. Will have to watch it later. Bit we will see how Kovalev does with a master technicianPosted August 2, 2014 11:44 pm
I guarantee you that the fight will be even more ON!Posted August 2, 2014 11:37 pm
Yep hop will run all 12 soft ass puncher !!!Posted August 2, 2014 11:36 pm
hop will run from kov.Posted August 2, 2014 11:30 pm
Cap noPosted August 2, 2014 11:25 pm
“I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!!!!!”
No you’re not Boxtra$$wipe. I said Caparello wouldn’t last three rounds and he didn’t. Now that’s prophecy!!!!!!Posted August 2, 2014 11:20 pm
Know it all
ANOTHER Australian destroyed on the world level so I’m sure another one will get a shot soon SMHPosted August 2, 2014 11:16 pm
Kovalev WINS by CAP PEELING stoppage just as I predicted! !!!!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!!!!!Posted August 2, 2014 11:14 pm
Kovelev took the fight out of Caperillo with a straight right to the body. Kovelev did make a mistake that caused him to get knocked down, after a low blow.Posted August 2, 2014 11:12 pm
Only if I can find a free streamPosted August 2, 2014 11:10 pm
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is anyone here actually watching the fight?Posted August 2, 2014 11:05 pm
Kovalev by CAP PEELING stoppage and I WILL be celebrating yet again!!Posted August 2, 2014 10:59 pm
The judges sure were nice to Vargas.Posted August 2, 2014 10:53 pm
Has the fight started yet?Posted August 2, 2014 10:48 pm