GGG has skills, style and power that is up there with the best of all time. Critics are saying his resume is weak, but if you compare and look close to Hopkins (or Taylor, Abraham, Pavlik, Martinez) resume in middleweight its hard to see the difference. I assume Hopkins has the best resume:
Hopkins best wins: Vanderpool (had couple of world level fight before Hopkins, Jeff Lacy beat his ass), Trinidad (not a real middleweight), Taylor (He lost two times),DLH ( even smaller than Trinidad!), Robert Allen (his best win was against Lloyd Bryan (16-1) prior to Hopkins fight).
I think you can easily compare Vanderpool and Stevens, Allen and Proksa, Taylor and Geale/Macklin and so on.
Trinidad and DLH are close to match to Cotto witch is not a real middleweight. No one would give any credit to GGG if he beats Cotto.
There are double standards and those standards are making GGG look ordinary and Hopkins look great.Posted August 16, 2014 11:50 am
Boxing Fan.., I don’t eat junk food or between meals. I’m in better physical condition than almost anybody. Nobody at an opera or play is snarfing down junk food, so I don’t know why you need it at sporting events or movies.
However snack food sales contribute a lot to the bottom line at sports events — so I wonder why that revenue source wouldn’t be taken advantage of in any country.Posted August 2, 2014 3:20 am
KFC.Posted August 1, 2014 7:02 am
My wife is from England. What can I say? Every time we go there guess where her friends and relatives want to take me?Posted July 31, 2014 11:03 pm
“‘Uh-huh. I’ve spent plenty of time in English pubs.’
Hidalgo, that explains a alot……..”
LMAO! Like what?Posted July 31, 2014 11:00 pm
Do the Americans still put Salt in their Beer.Posted July 31, 2014 5:36 pm
Once again a comment from Froch
“It’s potentially one of the biggest fights to happen in the last decade,” Froch said of his possible fight with Chavez Junior or Golovkin. “I’m told my promoter Eddie Hearn has already spoken to HBO about a big fight against Chavez Junior. But, from what I understand, HBO are more interested to see me in against Golovkin because there are not too many willing to fight him. Sure, Golovkin is frightening, but I fear no man. It would be an unbelievable fight that would get everybody excited – him or Chavez Junior.”Posted July 31, 2014 4:11 pm
@ ES, Im out!!!!Posted July 31, 2014 3:00 pm
the brazilian idiot can’t handle the truth period.Posted July 31, 2014 2:10 pm
Big historical event coming Soon.
Mayweather Approved By WBC To Defend 147/154 Belts
World Boxing Council President Mauricio Sulaiman has approved a request by Floyd Mayweather Jr. to defend both of his WBC titles, at welterweight and junior middleweight, against Marcos Maidana on September 13th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Mayweather also holds the WBA crown at 147 and 154.
Sulaiman compares Mayweather’s historic request to Sugar Ray Leonard’s fight with Donnie Lalonde in November of 1988, when the WBC super middleweight and light heavyweight titles were both at stake in the same fight.
“It is an important historic event, because it gives recognition to a great champion like Mayweather, and at the time [in 1998 that recognition] was given to Sugar Ray Leonard. There are situations in which you should have that flexibility where you don’t disrupt the development of fighters. There is currently no mandatory challenger at welterweight and super welterweight, no boxer is getting hurt [in this move]. It’s something that places Mayweather in a very exclusive group in boxing history. His loyalty to the organization has been exemplary and this is also a way to show our loyalty to him,” Sulaiman said.Posted July 31, 2014 2:05 pm
UK ALL THE WAY!!
Tark So you say that Froch had an easy time with Groves, which goes to show everybody much you DON’T know about boxing. Pure bollocks! GTF off this site before you hurt yourself. I’m a Froch fan but groves has won a spot on my list of favorite UK fighters. And you’re “trainer of hundreds of successful fighters”, are ya? LMFAO! ESBs biggest wanker!Posted July 31, 2014 12:55 pm
‘Uh-huh. I’ve spent plenty of time in English pubs.’
Hidalgo, that explains a alot……..Posted July 31, 2014 11:04 am
@ Boxer Puncher
You’re a dumb racist that’s why!!!!Posted July 31, 2014 10:56 am
If Froch-Golovkin can be made (see PEEJ’s Froch quote below), I think that’s potentially the most exciting fight that could be made in boxing right now. I’d have thought that Froch would make more money against Chavez, given his huge fanbase in Las Vegas, but if HBO prefer him to take on Golovkin, who knows? Perhaps it might happen.
If Golovkin were able to KO Froch, especially if he did it in the early rounds, I think you’d have to assume he’d be able to do the same to Ward (who has better defensive skills etc., granted, but who has also been down against much lesser fighters).
However, at this point I’d have to favour Froch to take him into the trenches and either force a stoppage in the championship rounds or (bar corruption) win a close decision.
Froch just might prove too big, too tenacious, and have too much in the tank for the untested Golovkin (who, after all, has never gone more than eight rounds and has never fought anyone with the size, heart, chin and experience of Froch).
Lastly, it’s only fair that I admit that I’m posting so much on here just because I’m a fat and lazy lardarse — and because otherwise my only two friends would be Ben and Jerry ;-).Posted July 31, 2014 10:54 am
Just as I was saying. Thanks for the quote.Posted July 31, 2014 10:35 am
Here is a comment from Froch
“It’s potentially one of the biggest fights to happen in the last decade,” Froch said of his possible fight with Chavez Junior or Golovkin. “I’m told my promoter Eddie Hearn has already spoken to HBO about a big fight against Chavez Junior. But, from what I understand, HBO are more interested to see me in against Golovkin because there are not too many willing to fight him. Sure, Golovkin is frightening, but I fear no man. It would be an unbelievable fight that would get everybody excited – him or Chavez Junior.”
He is not scared to fight GGG as some people keep saying.Posted July 31, 2014 10:26 am
True, there are plenty of fatties in the UK these days too (especially Scotland, where the fried Mars bar is a delicacy), though it tends to be from drinking 14 pints of beer two or three times a week (or 10 if you’re a lass) than from constantly grazing on junk food (= American haute cuisine, if you’ll excuse my French) while watching sports.
For example, you don’t get people eating at football (“soccer” to you), rugby or boxing matches, whereas in the States there’s a tradition of everyone going to the stadium and “chowing down” on “pizza, hotdogs, hamburgers, beer, fries, onion rings, ice cream bars, popsicles, popcorn, candy, or whatever they got” while watching “football”, baseball, softball etc.
That’s also why you can walk past a stadium in the US while a big baseball or football match is on and not hear a thing (except perhaps the faint sound of collective munching), whereas you can hear British fans singing from the terraces from miles away if the wind is blowing in your direction. Our fans sing, yours eat.Posted July 31, 2014 10:15 am
“RACEMOND and PEEJ also down fried chicken, watermelon and 40 ounce beers while posting, making their keyboards even messier.”
So? As opposed to haggis, and black pudding, and eggs with beans, right? Oh, and the obligatory pint.Posted July 31, 2014 9:51 am
“Believe it or not, most people in the world don’t need to “chow down” on a ton of junk food when they watch sporting events. That’s just you Americans, which is why you top the world rankings in obesity.”
Uh-huh. I’ve spent plenty of time in English pubs. Spare me the BS. There’s a lot of rolley-polleys wandering around in England as well. Just go to any pub to find them.Posted July 31, 2014 9:46 am
I bet tark is so f*cking obese , you wouldn, t walk beside him , you would have to roll him. Hahahahahahahahaha…. he buys his underwear at the local tent makers. HahahahahahahaPosted July 31, 2014 8:50 am
TO ALL THE GGG FANS iNC. THE LOOMIS IMPOSTER…… FROCH WOULD REMOVE THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE!!! IF LOEFLLER IS STUPID ENOUGH TO ALLOW GGG TO FIGHT THE COBRA……FROCH IS ONE OF BOXINGS TUFFEST GLADIATORS , A THROW BACK FIGHTER THAT SHOWS NO FEAR AND WILL FIGHT TO HIS LAST BREATH!! PASCAL , KESSLER , ABRAHAM , BIKA , WARD , HAVE ALSO SHOWN AN INTEREST TO FIGHT GGG , BUT HEY , SAM SOLIMAN IS MUCH BETTER WITH 11 LOSSES TO BOOT , IS IT PPV???????? LMFAOPosted July 31, 2014 8:44 am
“To the LOOMIS imposter…….go home , you dont pocess my intellect.”
Hahahahahahaha! Thanks for that: hilarious.
You know, I think it’s fair to say that no one ever in the history of the word has ever “pocessed” your level of intellect. Genius.Posted July 31, 2014 7:47 am
“I could GAF what Brits eat at boxing events, but I’m certain 80,000 fans are going to eat and drink a lot of something… If it’s pizza, hotdogs, hamburgers, beer, fries, onion rings, ice cream bars, popsicles, popcorn, candy, or whatever they got – they’re going to chow down.”
No, they’re not; they don’t. They eat before they go to the venue. Then they drink beer, and that’s it.
Believe it or not, most people in the world don’t need to “chow down” on a ton of junk food when they watch sporting events. That’s just you Americans, which is why you top the world rankings in obesity.
But at least we now know how you got so fat, TARK: you sit “chowing down” on pizza, hotdogs, hamburgers, beer, fries, onion rings, ice cream bars, popsicles, popcorn, candy etc. while watching boxing, fantasising about how you once trained hundreds of successful fighters, and posting complete and utter bollocks on here.Posted July 31, 2014 7:42 am
@boxing fan on Froch. A hearty ‘hear hear’.Posted July 31, 2014 5:35 am
“Is it just me, or do others too get the impression that Tark, Bears, Sredmond and Boxtradamus are all fat lazy lard-arses who couldn’t fight for sh!t and spend all their time on here because they’re all lonely?”
Those guys and PEEJ stuff their faces with Ben and Jerries while posting on ESB and getting their keyboards sticky. RACEMOND and PEEJ also down fried chicken, watermelon and 40 ounce beers while posting, making their keyboards even messier. All are overweight.Posted July 31, 2014 4:38 am
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see the look on stevens face when 3g layed him out all but eyed!!
wish i could get a poster of thatPosted July 31, 2014 3:36 am
Pulev’s chick is hotPosted July 31, 2014 3:06 am
To the LOOMIS imposter…….go home , you dont pocess my intellect.Posted July 31, 2014 3:00 am
@TARK You said, “I think that’s why he was able to handle Groves so easily, because he faced guys with 3 times the boxing skills.
hmmm “..so easily”?? I have to differ a bit here. I too picked Froch to win but NONE of the fights were EASY for Froch. I have sopies of both fights, seen them a few times. Groves actually confirmed how EASY it is to hit Froch, or was I watching the wrong fight? If I remember correctly Froch was well behind on ALL THREE cards in the 1st fight and barely ahead on two and well behaind one one of the cards in the rematch, remember? Maybe not. Anyway, NO, it wasn’t nearly as “easily” as you say. Peace!Posted July 31, 2014 1:48 am
Jake LaMotta’s wife Vickie was hot in the 1950s.. Natural blond hair, olive skin, hourglass figure, and drop dead gorgeous face.. I’ve seen hotter women—but none married to short ugly boxers.
She did a playboy layout when she was 55 … She still looked good, but her day was long passed at that point.Posted July 31, 2014 1:21 am
The MW division is weak just like GGG’s resume, he remains a hype until he faces stiff competition like SOG, Cotto and lesser known Kid Choc will be walk overs for GGG just like the rest of his previous foes.Posted July 31, 2014 1:18 am
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frochs girl is hot. she might be the hottest boxers girl i ever seenPosted July 31, 2014 12:52 am
I see broner is fighting an ESPN fighter and Garcia is fighting a cabbie. Haymon fighters fight bums as usualPosted July 30, 2014 9:47 pm
I like his girlfriend rachel, she’s hot!Posted July 30, 2014 8:14 pm
I like Froch… He’s one of the better people in the sport. He’s obviously the 2nd best Super Middleweight in the world.
I don’t know if you read my posts on Froch-Groves, but I predicted Froch would win both fights by KO — and I was right. He’s also very honest about his ability and who he can beat … From what I’ve heard and read he doesn’t want to fight Golovkin, and who can blame him?
And what do hotdogs have to do with Boxing??? I could GAF what Brits eat at boxing events, but I’m certain 80,000 fans are going to eat and drink a lot of something… If it’s pizza, hotdogs, hamburgers, beer, fries, onion rings, ice cream bars, popsicles, popcorn, candy, or whatever they got – they’re going to chow down. So that adds to the revenues.
That was my point… That fight did smashing revs.Posted July 30, 2014 8:01 pm
Quillan is a bum, big big big cherry picker like manny next fight but atleast he has fought great guys before. Quillan is dead meatPosted July 30, 2014 8:00 pm
Macklin and Geale are not champions but solid mws who have always made a good account of themselves. Certified top 10 mws who looked like prey in there with 3G. Im talking body language strong, tough, proud fighters who looked panicked in there with 3G. Is Quillen really the answer ha ha.Posted July 30, 2014 7:53 pm
Boxing fan. I’m clapping very very funnyPosted July 30, 2014 7:52 pm
agreed 100% !!!!!!
esb is TARDS life.Posted July 30, 2014 7:48 pm
Okay my thick fat friends, I must love you and leave you. Try not to hurt yourselves while going to the freezer to get another huge bowl of Ben & Jerries….Posted July 30, 2014 7:42 pm
How can a debate be taking place where its being disputed whether the best mw in the world is a hype job or not. Carl Froch is a tough, cocky s.o.b who just happens to be the #2 smw in the world. His quotes said it all about 3G. Promise you we’ll be debating this for the next decade as 3G lays waste to the mw division leaving a trail of battered and bludgeoned fighters.Posted July 30, 2014 7:41 pm
Ward is good obviously. GGG is good obviously. Ward needs to go up. GGG needs to clean out his division as ward did at 168. No point in the talk till GGG cleans middle out which he willPosted July 30, 2014 7:38 pm
Is it just me, or do others too get the impression that Tark, Bears, Sredmond and Boxtradamus are all fat lazy lard-arses who couldn’t fight for sh!t and spend all their time on here because they’re all lonely?Posted July 30, 2014 7:38 pm
Anonymous says watching GGG is wasting your life. What watching GGG stop a guy that went to Germany and got the job done twice is wasting your life. But watching the likes of Lara or floyd isn’t. Takes three times as long and no damagePosted July 30, 2014 7:37 pm
Just like when you assumed that British fans would be eating pretzels and hotdogs at Wembley during the Froch-Groves fight, once again you haven’t got a fukcing clue what you’re talking about.
Please just STFU, you fat fanny.Posted July 30, 2014 7:33 pm
You’re right, I didn’t watch that, but I did happen to watch the interview in question, which you have have only heard other people talking about, and have already covered this on the other thread:
About Froch’s comments on Golovkin: it’s not like these were his carefully considered opinions. Rather, he and Groves were asked about Golovkin in a lighthearted “Facedbook Q&A” and Froch said, “Just swerve Golovkin like the plague. Punches like a mule. You don’t need to be in with him. Dangerous fight”, then laughed.
In other words, this was clearly more a casual on-the-spot, off-the-top-of-the-head reply than something he was contemplating as a serious possibility. Groves then suggested that he thinks Golovkin is too small for Super Middleweight, and Froch agreed, adding that he may well not carry his power up to 168.
But even if Froch would prefer not to take on such a dangerous young fighter in the twilight of his career, at age 38, at least he’s being honest about it, unlike the BS you usually get.
And let’s face it: nobody in the sport has had such a long run of back-to-back fights against elite opponents as Froch. In short, if you doubt his courage and heart and grit, you obviously know nothing about him.
The bottom line is that at this stage in his career he wants — and has more than earned the right to — his swansong in Vegas, and to get as much money per fight as possible. If GGG were a household name outside of boxing like Chavez Jr is, and brought as many fans, as much interest, and as much money to the table, I have little doubt that Froch would be up for it. But the truth is that however popular Golovkin is on boards like this, he doesn’t have that kind of following, and so if Froch decides to take more money and fame for less risk for once, given his track record of taking on the very best, fight after fight after fight, it would be churlish indeed to knock him for it.
And as for those who think it’s a foregone conclusion that Froch would get KO’d, again, you obviously don’t know what kind of a chin, and what kind of grit, heart and dogged determination Froch brings to the table. Sure, he got reckless and walked straight into a hard left hand against Groves, but that punch would have taken out any other Super Middleweight, and Froch came back strong.
Sure, it’s possible that Golovkin could carry his firepower up to Super Middleweight, but don’t forget that Golovkin has never fought at 168, is much smaller than Froch, has much shorter reach, and if Froch were to take him into the later rounds, it would become a war of attrition — something that Froch, but not Golovkin, knows all about.
So please, before you spit BS about how Golovkin would easily KO Froch, and how Froch is ducking him, try learning some facts so that you can make a more intelligent and neutral assessment.Posted July 30, 2014 7:28 pm
Loomis says.., “Ward beat froch 115-113 on two cards. GGG would stop him”
I don’t think you watched the Ward-Froch fight… The scores were bogus because Ward won 10 rounds… Two judges were trying their best to rob Ward but it was too one-sided.
But GGG beats Ward — but stoppage or D. He’s got the mastery and firepower to beat him.Posted July 30, 2014 7:06 pm
__ggg is overhyped and if you stay up to watch him then you really are wasting huge chunks of your life.Posted July 30, 2014 7:05 pm
Who cares what GGG did in his first 3 fights we live in the now. You can only go off wins this year. Your comparing what other guys did with GGG. It’s the same as people compare manny and floyd. No pointPosted July 30, 2014 6:51 pm
Ward beat froch 115-113 on two cards. GGG would stop himPosted July 30, 2014 6:50 pm
Boxing Fan.., Froch said Golovkin is too good and he wants no part of him. They talked about this during the Golokin-Geale telecast…
Guess you weren’t watching.Posted July 30, 2014 6:30 pm
Amar Amari, who went the distance with Golovkin in 2008, had already been KO’d FOUR TIMES against nobodies, in round 2, 4, 4, and 2, and was KO’d in 2 by an obscure French boxer with a 40% KO record just three months before facing Golovkin. Golovkin could not put him down.
For mentioning this and some other fighters who Golovkin failed to drop, yet had been KO’d by other fighters, someone below says it makes me “look stupid” since I’m going too far back, yet how many times do the same Golovkin fanboys keep on bringing up Golovkin’s amateur record?
You can’t have it both ways kids. If it’s relevant to assessing Golovkin’s chances of beating e.g. Froch or Ward to mention how he did when he was 18, how can it be “stupid” of me to mention how he did when he was 26?
My point stands: if Golovkin at age 26, after 365 fights, could not stop someone who had been KO’d inside two rounds by a light-hitting nobody just three months before, why do you think it’s a foregone conclusion that now, age 32, after 380 fights, he could KO a fighter in a heavier weight division with a proven iron chin (i.e. Froch)?
The truth is that Golovkin is a great prospect, and may well prove himself to be the best at 160, but let’s not get carried away with this “he’d easily KO Froch, Ward, Stevenson and Kovalev” BS shall we?Posted July 30, 2014 6:21 pm
—-TARD, your comments about ggg are laughable !
GGG only fights bums
GGG has yet to face a good fighter……Posted July 30, 2014 6:02 pm
You gotta be the dumbest poster ever .Posted July 30, 2014 5:59 pm
I watched floyd v canelo at the w/ e floyd never stood in front of canelo. Pull your head in sredmond maybe 5 percent more than Lara. Canelo was gassed in the floyd fight after 6. Lara faced a fitter healthier canelo alsoPosted July 30, 2014 5:29 pm
Dawson was a good boxer in his prime, about the time he wanted to fight Calzaghe… I think he just stopped caring after that fight didn’t happen… How can a good boxer lose to a lousy boxer like Jean Pacal? And get stopped so easily by hittable Adonis Stevenson.
Dawson was past his due date when Ward fought him, and the Pascal and Stevenson fights prove it.Posted July 30, 2014 5:24 pm
The difference between GGG and floyd is GGG is feared. No one is scared of floyd he can’t hurt you. Great boxer of our generation but no danger if your a welter. GGG could get stoppages at light heavy. You talk about GGG resume but geale is better than guerreo and Ortiz. Guerro or Ortiz wouldn’t have gone to Germany and won twice.Posted July 30, 2014 5:24 pm
Canelo is top 10 now but he wasn’t when floyd faced him. After trout he was 17 by ring mag. Where is the hate in that I never posted the lower comment. Read closer you foolPosted July 30, 2014 5:15 pm
adrian, racemond is a butt hurt black guy that cant stand that this eurasian is getting much deserved attention. so he downplays everything he does. if ggg were black, racemond would be all over his jock. he’s in damage control mode now. downplay the hell out of ggg to make him feel better about himself and his own worthless life.Posted July 30, 2014 5:12 pm
“Andre Ward is inactive. Has he retired?” – No. He was injured, had surgery, then had a lawsuit against his promoter. He’s on the shelf until further notice.Posted July 30, 2014 4:40 pm
Adrian, GGG might prove to be something special over time that said he still has his work cut out… If beating Geale was the ticket then Barker should be on everyones radar even though GGG did it in impressive fashion… Loons question Mayweathers fight game and he is outboxing A or B plus boxers… Meanwhile we are supposed to put GGG beyond reproach for beating C listers and a few other guys?Posted July 30, 2014 4:14 pm
Slovak the ONLY guys who “deserve a PPV” are the ones who can sell one… Its a business if you cannot sell records then the record company will drop you… GGG needs an A side fighter to get his name out there ie stopping Canelo, Cotto or Chavez but just like they did he will have to wait till he has a fanbase to sell at the negotiating table..Posted July 30, 2014 4:12 pm
Wow ! Sredmond says ggg is a hype but he writes so manny comments here about him ….lolPosted July 30, 2014 3:48 pm
Gggs style and aggresion makes for great fights and i am a boxing fan and want to see great fights not running around for 12 rounds like a fairy.he deserves ppv.Posted July 30, 2014 3:37 pm
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who is the guy below trying to detract from 3g for his first pro bouts and not stopping them? this dude seriously just went back 20 some odd fights and has no idea how stupid it makes him look
it omitts 3g’s continuous improvement and his pro beginningsPosted July 30, 2014 3:34 pm
He is still the Champion.Posted July 30, 2014 3:21 pm
Andre Ward is inactive. Has he retired?Posted July 30, 2014 3:21 pm
Tark does NOT know what a “talented boxer” look like he says that Floyd basically never faced anyone the caliber of a Shawn Porter or Keith Thurman…. He was BLOWING Lara who sprinted away his chances of booking a Canelo win while Floyd stood in front of the kid and tattooed him…Posted July 30, 2014 3:15 pm
Peej, Tark is manufacturing his usual BS… Ward was a Gold Medalist but of COURSE in Tarks book everyone he boxed was TERRIBLE and GGG of course faced the smoothest boxers in known history… Didn’t GGG fight Dirrell in the amateurs? if so who beat Dirrell? Froch? Who worked over Froch? Ward….. #TarkKillyourselfPosted July 30, 2014 3:14 pm
Where are all the Canelo fans calling out GGG??? LOL hiding in some cave along the Rio Grande..Posted July 30, 2014 3:11 pm
Saying GGG faced good boxers in the amateurs but doesn’t say Ward has. Ward has been undefeated for what 14 or 15 years. I would say he has fought some good boxers in the amateurs. Oh by the way, Ward also won a gold medal.Posted July 30, 2014 3:09 pm
Suddenly Chad Dawson could not box? he was well regarded as a smooth boxer before Ward beat him down but I am SURE revisionist Tark will sell us that he had NO fight game despite beating Adamek, Tarver and others while being at the top of 175 for several years… If you don’t respect Wards opposition Tark then Golovkins must be a JOKE to you??????? You were reliant on the experts yesterday and they inserted Ward as P4P #2…. Dawson was a tall, rangy Southpaw with a nice jab and good footwork he was too laid back at times but he knew how to box… Ward took his confidence and THEN Stevenson laid him out… Get it RIGHT you BUM…Posted July 30, 2014 3:09 pm
Golovkin is an ELITE Boxing Master from the East and the world’s Premier Middleweight. You can look at it this way: Cotto is the Champ by way of beating Martinez but GGG is almost certainly the best fighter in the division and is building his fan base fight by fight. He’s a young 32. 3G is the Real Deal and middleweight is a flagship division, so he wants to clean up at 160 before going anywhere else. He doesn’t listen to idle talk.Posted July 30, 2014 3:08 pm
GGG called out Canelo almost a year ago, said he’d come down to 154lbs to fight Canelo and what did Canelo and his people do??? Run for the Border and never look back.. not even a peeep from them.. cowards…Posted July 30, 2014 3:04 pm
Tark, you are SUCH a WEAK azz poster with your “Ward never faced a good boxer” fact is that Ward has faced guys who defeated and outfought so called better fighters…You want to create an imaginary guy who won the titles that Froch, Dawson and Kessler won GTFOH…. They had the constellation of attributes to achieve MAJOR success in the sport at various times and writing them off when you cannot produce guys MORE successful than them at this time is WEAK… As for Mayweather vs Cotto, Miguel is a HOF fighter who has been in with the BEST he has bloodied PLENTY of guys and losing to Mayweather 8-4 and 9-3 is NO shame on Mayweather he is a HOFER… Even when stopping Cotto, Manny got a Busted Ear Drum… The ONLY fighter in the sport that its a big deal to punch is Floyd Mayweather because of his insane defense… GGG is not half the fighter Floyd is he is just plenty bigger and stronger that’s why he started his career at 160 and Mayweather at 130 while he fights most comfortably at 147… Any narrative you try to sell where GGG is in the convo with Floyd is a BUST… You knock Floyds opposition but you are big on WHO for Golovkin??? Adama, Ouma, Rosado, Ishida, Stevens a banged up Macklin? or Geale who was a Solid opponent to GGG’s credit? GGG’s 2 best competitors cannot make the B squad when you consider Mayweather having wins over Canelo, Cotto, Mosley, Oscar and Marquez…. GTFOH with your hypePosted July 30, 2014 3:03 pm
Neither Ward nor Golovkin has faced a good boxer yet… Froch faced 2 good boxers in Dirrell and Ward… I think that’s why he was able to handle Groves so easily, because he faced guys with 3 times the boxing skills.
Groves hit Froch with one real good right – and you can’t live off one punch. You have to be able to land hard punches every round. Groves was LOST after the 5th round in both fights. He’s worse than I thought.
Golovkin faced scores of great boxers as an amateur, and that experience never leaves you… So he really doesn’t need top level competition to beat a great boxer when he finally meets one…
Obviously your skills can get rusty if you don’t fight guys appropriate for your skill level. That’s why you need great sparring if you’re running over everybody you fight.
Mayweather probably thought Cotto was too short, and Cotto’s reach was too short to reach him… Floyd started smiling as Cotto popped him in the face with his jab… He was like “fuk, this MFer is hitting me.” … Floyd can be tagged, and he’s never faced a jab like Golovkin’s.
If Porter gets past Brook — I think that’s a real tough fight for Shawn — I think he’s real threat to Mayweather.Posted July 30, 2014 2:51 pm
Boxer puncher lmao
No wonder.The comments of de Lima ‘n’ you were hardcore.Posted July 30, 2014 2:50 pm
Those of you who believe that Froch could not withstand Golovkin’s power, and that he could KO anyone at 168 and 175, need to learn a few facts:
(1) Mehdi Bouadla, who went the distance with Golovkin, was subsequently KO’d by both Kessler in the 6th and Abraham in the 8th.
(2) Ian Gardner, who also went the distance with Golovkin, had already been KO’d a couple of fights earlier by Chad Dawson.
(3) Amar Amari, who also went the distance with Golovkin, had already been KO’d FOUR TIMES against nobodies, in round 2, 4, 4, and 2, and was KO’d in 2 by an obscure French boxer with a 40% KO record called Robert Roselia just three months before facing Golovkin.
And yet you “know” that Froch — who surely has one of the best chins in boxing, and is much bigger than anyone Golovkin has ever fought — couldn’t take Golovkin’s punches, right?
Facts are your friends. Please try to become acquainted with them before running your mouths off, folks.Posted July 30, 2014 2:26 pm
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3G = PURE WARRIORPosted July 30, 2014 1:44 pm
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3 arsenal clearly better than wards 3g is obviously one of best most surgical strikers in the game and very efficient. knocking his footwork and saying ward has better footwork i dont think that can be said either.
wards wins are not too impressive. kessler had only been in with mundine and thAts still basically it as froch avenged with better scores.
frochs a rugged brawler and things dont go his way often against guys you would think he would have had easier days with like groves and taylor and glen johnson
taylor knocked him down and was beating him til frochs f-bombs tuned taylor up late
groves knocked him down and was winning til frochs f-bombs tuned him up late
ward could not even drop froch and then froch landed the best punch of the fight a sweet f-bomb (froch bomb) that sent wards mouth piece to the 10th row. taylor and groves could drop froch but wards not in their company. lol
dawson was boiled down and baked. that is totally obvious. there is a lot to complain about ward. his inactivity his bullspit promoter and sanctioning body issues, his lack of willingness to make the best fights a light heavy where all and all he may have spent as much or more time in the ams and olympics
living off the super 6 actually, just living off kessler froch and dawson aint much at all at this juncture. p4p number 2 fighter in the world? HELL NO.
if the telegraphing froch can land his bombs on ward 3g can stop him. if froch can take wards best i think 3g will be just fine in that department.
ward said he had to loose 30 pounds to make 168
i got 159.5 pound 3g > 198 pound ward
3g gives ward the boxing lesson 3g is more skilled 3g is more pure warriorPosted July 30, 2014 1:25 pm
Ward “ducked Bute” that’s complete NONSENSE… Bute was fighting soft touches like then Ward and Pavlik leftover Edison Miranda and Mendy… He avoided the gauntlet that the Super 6 represented and then was supposed to get a fight against the winner? when he (Bute) stepped up against a Ward victim he was knocked out in 5 rounds and never looked the same since… Man please get your facts STRAIGHT…Posted July 30, 2014 1:01 pm
All my posts have vanished! Why????Posted July 30, 2014 12:53 pm
Yea, I meant at 168 Ward doesn’t have a lot of options. A GGG fight being the most competitive. If Ward decides to go to 175, Kovalev and Stevenson await. Ward proved a lot during the Super 6! With the competition out there now on both sides of 168, he has a chance to prove true greatness.Posted July 30, 2014 12:34 pm
Don’t mistake GGG’s willingness to take a shot to land a shot as vulnerability. I think he figured out early on that Geale wasn’t likely to hurt him, and decided to take a trade — ‘you’re going to hit me, but I’m going to hurt you.’ I credit Geale though, GGG isn’t a fight most fighters are currently going to take.Posted July 30, 2014 12:25 pm
”I’ll move up to 175 after the Super 6 and I’ve beaten Bute. They’ll be nothing left for me at 168.”
”I’m ready for any big fight at 168 or 175.”
Ducks Bute and Stevenson when they call him out despite both offering to fight him in Oakland.
Kovalev calls him out.
”Beating Kovalev and Stevenson won’t get me to the number 1 spot. They’re not PPV fights.”
”I’m not a light heavyweight”
IBF champion Bute and lineal WBC champion Stevenson ”aren’t worthy” and they’re ”going to have to earn their shots.
Shot Pavlik’s worthy. So is middleweight Caleb Truax, Dimitri Sartison and a Ukrainian noone’s ever heard of.
But middleweight ”hype job boogey man” GGG’s worthy.
Andre Ward only changed his mind about moving up to 175 when Kovalev and Stevenson appeared on the scene and started destroying everything in their paths.Posted July 30, 2014 12:21 pm
hibdeebibdee claims.., “Geale showed that once a fighter gets up close and inside with GGG, he can negate GGG’s attack and mount an effective one of his own.”
You’re seeing things that aren’t happening.
Geale was running for his life most of the time… allowing Golovkin to control the entire ring with ease. Geale was in over his head and couldn’t relax for a split-second. 3G said, “I’ll hit you when I please and I’ll hit you with ease.”
You know… George Groves said he was going to hit Froch anywhere he wanted any time he wanted. Groves is what you call a delusional neophyte who believes he has high level skills when he has no skills. Froch at least had half-assed skills.
But 3G is a master. 3G was having fun. DG was terrified. I laughed LMAO at times. It was as funny as the Macklin fight because it was a ridiculous mismatch. It was like Rigondeaux vs Kokietgym.
3G saw all of Geale’s punches, but Geale was took shots he didn’t see. That’s the secret. GGG was able to work his way inside and hurt Geale — or hurt him from long range. Golovkin plied Mr. Inside Mr. Outside type mastery. He was the Ring General as always.
Any more nonsense to report?Posted July 30, 2014 12:09 pm
Hello to all
My assistant coach directed me to this chat forum and I read all the opinions & quotes.
Take care to all and respect to everyone
Virgil HunterPosted July 30, 2014 12:04 pm
Ward is listed at 6 foot and 71 inch reach. GGG, 5-10 and 70 inch reach. So on paper, their sizes match up. It’ll be interesting to see if Ward goes after GGG. It’s not like Ward currently has a better/more competitive fight out there.Posted July 30, 2014 11:35 am
Why are Canelos Fans so afraid of GGG fighting Canelo at 154lbs???Posted July 30, 2014 11:12 am
Lets have a little fun here. Here’s the deal Ward is odviously a top 2 p4p fighter right now whos bigger than 3G so losing to Ward doesn’t drop a guy very far in the rankings (example Froch). But who else seems to have all the tools nessasary to beat 3G from 54-68?Posted July 30, 2014 11:11 am
Has ward had over Ten fights.Posted July 30, 2014 10:48 am
Hibdee, I think Martin Murray is an EXCELLENT opponent for Golovkin…. He has solid upper level experience and the is a TRULY strong MW fighter… Again I don’t say that Golovkin “has to fight Ward” but if he is gonna lay claim on that division via propaganda then he is walking into Dre’s wheelhouse and we are gonna ask “why not”….Posted July 30, 2014 10:47 am
I’d also like to see GGG fight Martin Murray who I think would be a very good opponent for him.Posted July 30, 2014 10:44 am
“Ward says…and like he said “he sees holes in Golovkins game”
I have commented on the holes in GGG’s defense on several occasions. Daniel Geale, within a short three rounds, exploited some of those holes–and quite effectively I might add–last Saturday night. Too bad Geale doesn’t have more power.
Geale showed that once a fighter gets up close and inside with GGG, he can negate GGG’s attack and mount an effective one of his own. The difficulty however, lies with getting inside before getting hammered into submission.
I too would favor Andre Ward over Gennady Golovkin because Andre is just a better boxer. But I think we all need to keep in mind the fact that GGG has stated on multiple occasions that while he wants to fight certain opponents in the jr. middleweight and super middleweight divisions, his present goal is to unify the middleweight titles. I’d really like to see him beat all the champs in this division–Quillin, Soliman, Cotto, and also interim champs Rubio and Chudenov.
Clean out the middleweight division like Ward cleaned out the super middleweight division, then let’s all talk about a fight between Ward and Golovkin.Posted July 30, 2014 10:42 am
Anyone saying that Golovkin is “More skilled” than Andre Ward is just CRAZY… Golvokins main asset is his strength he is NOT a virtuoso boxer… He hits like a mule at 160 against primarily handpicked opposition… To his credit he has been consistent and is not struggling with these guys thus far… Andre Ward made his name and bones dominating guys who were World Champions on multiple occasions and collectively had something like 3 losses between them when the took them down… Kessler, Froch and Dawson were Champs on MORE than one occasion and NONE had ever been stopped or dominated when Dre faced them… Between them they had faced Pascal, Diaconu, Adamek, Hopkins, Tarver, Kessler, Froch, Andrade, Dirrell, and the list goes on… Ward adapted to each mans style, took away his best asset and made it look EASY… He defeated Carl Froch in Atlantic City with ONE good hand via UD…He did BETTER with Mikkel Kessler as a Green fighter than Joe Calzaghe could, he was the FIRST man to stop Dawson, made him quit after putting him down 3x…. GGG is NOTHING special in the skills department and if he has to go 12 rounds a few times that fact will be borne out… Ward is a NIGHTMARE for Golovkins style, that stalking Euro style that primarily moves in STRAIGHT lines with solid fundamentals but little improvisation is like Xmas Candy to a slick boxer who knows all the tricks and uses angles, feints and superior speed to get the job done… You guys LOVE GGG’s amateur background? Ward is a GOLD NOT Silver Medalist, he has NOT lost since he was a Child and like he said “he sees holes in Golovkins game” Bears KNOWS this because he was trying to sell Ward as a 200 pound fighter in order to keep GGG outta that ring with Dre… After we sufficiently battered his female EGO into the ground he and other kooks are NOW suddenly declaring that Golovkin would stop Ward with that basic attack of his??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Golovkin would lose 9-3 he better fight the winner of Froch vs Chavez Jr or his Undefeated Record and aura would be laid waste to by the SMW KING Andre SOG Ward… Real TalkPosted July 30, 2014 9:54 am
SREDMOND imposter with the “GGG vs Floyd at 154 post”… NO Floyd should NOT fight Golovkin at 154 that’s a NO WIN for Floyd and stupid… If he boxes GGG mindless and keeps moving all night against the much slower fighter then every internet CREEP, TWAT and CHUMP is gonna claim that Mayweather boiled him down and GGG who is a natural MW and has only fought there will be given a pass for his shame…On the other hand Mayweather is in the ring with a guy that’s gonna rehydrate to the 170’s and will have a HUGE advantage in size and strength, also GGG brings NO $$$$ to the table to induce the fight he would have to KO Cotto in spectacular fashion in order to get more than hardcore fans to really consider shelling out $$$$ to see him in the ring….Posted July 30, 2014 9:43 am
Loomis, you are stumping for Golovkin which is fine everyone has to have a favorite fighter and he has been exciting as he runs thru his list of C list opponents for the most part… That said Floyd Mayweather has ONLY been facing World Class, World Championship, current or former World Champions, Multi Division Champions of HOF level fighters for the past several years… I know some of you like to pretend that you win Lineal Championships in 4 out of 5 Weight Classes by throwing darts at a board but that is BS….If Mayweathers opposition is so flawed in your mind how do you justify Golovkins list of suspect opponents who collectively have accomplished VERY little??? GGG might be a cut above Deontay Wilder as it pertains to the quality of his foes but the gap is NOT wide and that’s not a compliment as it pertains to Wilder…Posted July 30, 2014 9:39 am
Yeah Bears Mosley got to Floyds jaw and what did Mayweather do? he took the shots quickly recovered and started beating Mosleys AZZ… Shane Mosley has MORE guts and vetting over his career than all of Golovkins opponents combined he was coming off a HUGE TKO of Margarito where he BEAT Tony to a pulp… Who has GGG beat of comparable quality? Curtis Stevens? his last 4 opponents had 28 losses when Golovkin faced him… Geale is a Good fighter but he is nobodys World Beater… He pretty much squeaks by the opposition and lacked the firepower necessary to give Golovkin much to think about, good win and he dispatched him quick but again you really make yourself the FOOL to discuss an ATG taking a HOFer to school in the same convo as a HOT fighter beating a World Class opponent… NOT the same level or close SORRY!!!Posted July 30, 2014 9:28 am
Floyd and Golovkin is NOT a natural matchup its ONLY Floyds proven Greatness and unprecedented drawing power that drive people to see how far over the speed limit HE can go… Why does Floyd have to prove he can box at 160 pounds? That would be a 6th weight class and unwise at the age of 38 for him to undertake the endeavor nowadays EVERY boxer he gets in the ring with is pretty much substantially younger and heavier ie Maidana, Ortiz, Cotto, Canelo…Mayweather SR is 100% correct giving up size will be the undoing of any boxer no matter how Great he is and contrary to the desires of his detractors its NOT Mayweathers job to find a way to allow a bigger man to possibly overcome his superior boxing skills. We hear the SAME PUNKS discussing GGG as a “tiny MW” who cannot box a pound above 160 UNLESS its Chavez Jr who despite his size and power has known liabilities…Posted July 30, 2014 9:22 am
Last Saturday, I learned two things about GGG. First, he may be the hardest puncher in boxing today. Second, he can get hit easily and often.Posted July 30, 2014 8:26 am
@Loomis Floyd is no coward to the world. Don’t act like your judgment of him is everyone else’s. Floyd is the #1 p4p fighter in the sport on EVERY, I repeat, EVERY list and or ranking. He is the highest paid boxer and athlete of all time and has the top 3 highest PPV fights of all time. You can have your OPINION all day long but these are the FACTS.Posted July 30, 2014 7:54 am
Loomis Boxrec.com has Canelo #6 and ring magazine has him #10 RIGHT NOW. These ranks are lower than what he was when faced Floyd. Like many have stated on this site, your just a hater who makes ignorant statements in a weak attempt to validate your weak point of view.Posted July 30, 2014 7:49 am
Was talking about floyd rayPosted July 30, 2014 5:31 am
G man has shown us what he can do. I’m looking to see him do it with higher level opponents. He’s got another 5 years. He can afford to take it step by step. Take on some other MW then if he stands up to those blokes he can move up. No need to move up now.Posted July 30, 2014 5:09 am
He’s very good & I hope 2 C him continue fighting stiffer competition. 1 of the greats of the era? No, doesnt mean he cant or wont b……but as 4 now no, hes beat a few solid guys not elite……im sure he will though & we will b watching.Posted July 30, 2014 4:54 am
That’s right slim the guy has a lot of faults and hasn’t always fought the best comp but he is an undefeated champ and one of the greats this eraPosted July 30, 2014 4:35 am
Society against Bra’s
Who is the best guy on Wards resume?
Hey Froch, you wanna fight GGG?
Froch : No way, I`d swerve that – dangerous fight. My beak would get destroyed, and I am proud of this roman monster on my face.
That equals KO1 Golovkin.
Wards best vicitim won`t even entertain the thought of experiencing severe G-Forces.Posted July 30, 2014 3:12 am
“Pac agreed to take all the tests years ago. Floyd kept moving the goalposts until pac said he’d test between rounds if that would make Floyd fight” that is Utter-BullSh*t (Again?!). the goal posts were never moved. they remained at the standard position for administering Harmless, Random, and MUTUALLY-Applied testing. unconditional agreement is the ONLY acceptable response. ANYthing to the contrary is a huge red-flag unless your vision is obscured by Manny’s* nutz.Posted July 30, 2014 2:53 am
@Fake Loomis…How do you last in boxing 18 years undefeated 46-0! being a coward??Posted July 30, 2014 2:45 am
Tard says…….’But the plan is to unify and go after Ward’……..BULLSH!T !!!!!Posted July 30, 2014 2:31 am
Tard why are you posting under fake handles??????Posted July 30, 2014 2:26 am
I never wrote that some idiot taking my name againPosted July 30, 2014 2:12 am
GGG will fight ward when he has cleaned out 160 as ward has 168Posted July 30, 2014 1:07 am
You dummy… GGG has been calling out Quillin for years.Posted July 30, 2014 1:00 am
there yall go saying Floyd always floyd why don’t yall say pac fight ggg cuz yall know pac will get put to but ggg why don’t he fight ward that’s more his weight class ward will get at ggg that’s why ggg wont fight ward or why wont ggg fight quillinPosted July 30, 2014 12:54 am
Your stats mean nothing. Golivkin fights different to every style. Going by what your saying maidana beats canelo by your stats which wouldn’t happen in a million years. Floyd at his best doesn’t beat GGG, he would touch him once and he would jump out of the MGMPosted July 30, 2014 12:23 am
After trout fight I meantPosted July 30, 2014 12:17 am
Bleacher report after Lara fight had him at 17 so who’s rankings are you following boxtra?Posted July 30, 2014 12:17 am
Sorry highest in floyd fight was 16Posted July 30, 2014 12:14 am
On who’s list was canelo top 10 cause on ring his highest before Lara was 16Posted July 30, 2014 12:14 am
Thug there is no way floyd beats GGG at middle he would have to boil him down to beat him. Do a manny on him like manny did to delaPosted July 30, 2014 12:11 am
Why would ward want to fight a little guy when he has guys at 175 waiting. GGG is staying at middle as he has unfinished business. Ward needs to grow a pair and go up where he has a few waitingPosted July 30, 2014 12:09 am
Ward has beaten everybody at 168 why would he want a 160 pounder. He has kovalev waiting at 175. No point beating a middle when beating a bigger guy will have no critic. You beat a little guy then your a pussyPosted July 30, 2014 12:08 am
@ghetto thug n who would u like floyd to fight cotto ? Garcia ? Gtfoh . If floyd beat ggg he would be lauded n if it was at 160 it would be classed as the greatest W of this ggeneration. Please ans . WeakPosted July 29, 2014 11:53 pm
@loomis ” swerve golovkin like the plague . The guy punches like a mule . I don t need to be in that fight ” do u know who said this LoomisPosted July 29, 2014 11:40 pm
Lara and Ward will HAPPILY take on Golovkin.Posted July 29, 2014 11:26 pm
Ward is praying for as many significant Fights as possible and the BEST way for him to DO it is to get BOTH the Golovkin Fight AND the Kovalev Fight. But he wants Golovkin First. He already has a SHARK slay under his belt SO he doesn’t need to leave divisions to find one. Golovkin needs a SHARK on his resume. Cotto LOOKED like a monster TOO against the last #0 P4P NON Championship opponent that he faced. SO DID Porter. Golovkin needs to try to DO something SPECIAL not ordinary.Posted July 29, 2014 11:25 pm
You must not have been watching Boxing because Margo wasn’t Ring worn. He was the Top rated Welter when Mosley damn near beheaded him. No matter what YOU think the FACT is that all of those guys that I mentioned were rated as SHARKS in the Sport of Boxing when Mayweather slayed them. There are TWO SHARKS that called out GGG and he has gone the other way with BLIND eyes and DEAF ears. SO he is not the monster that they make him out to BE. All ELITE Fighters LOOK like monsters vs. #0 P4P NON Championship level competition. Canelo LOOKED like a monster vs. Angulo.Posted July 29, 2014 11:20 pm
Ward is praying for a money fight.. He should fight Kovalev. It’s only a 4% jump from 168 to 175, versus a 5% jump for Golovkin from 160 to 168.
Barring a jump to 175 for millions, Ward should comb the 168 landscape for a possible opponents.. That’s what Kovalev and Golovkin have to do while they wait for unification fights.. Fight the best available guy who’s willing to fight you.. It should be easier for you since you don’t knock people dead like GGG and Kovalev.
Ward should get on the phone himself — like Eddie Mazon used to do — to make his own fights if his promoter is not doing the job.Posted July 29, 2014 11:16 pm
What happens to Proksa? he looked good against a german world champion before the Golovkin fight, and he was youngPosted July 29, 2014 11:02 pm
Golovkin: Andre Ward is too much for me
youtube.com/watch?v=G6_IPGpBlYsPosted July 29, 2014 10:58 pm
Ward: Golovkin is ducking me
youtube.com/watch?v=U94vNaRatj0Posted July 29, 2014 10:53 pm
Loomis Canelo was Top 10 P4P when Floyd beat him. Learn how to follow Boxing a little more closely.Posted July 29, 2014 10:52 pm
Loomis you need to learn more about Boxing. IF Guerrero was never a SHARK then that tells you that Daniel Geale never was either. Geale hasn’t been rated higher than Guerrero in his LIFE. But Geale landed 29% total on Golovkin. Guerrero landed 19% total against Mayweather…… Geale landed 38% of his power shots against Golovkin. NO one lands that against Floyd and Floyd is facing the MUCH STIFFER competition. Canelo can beat Geale right NOW and HE only landed 31% of his shots vs. Floyd. SO that tells you something. Floyd’s better than Golovkin on his WORST day.Posted July 29, 2014 10:51 pm
Tracey canelos best ranking is 10 p4p and that’s now not when floyd beat himPosted July 29, 2014 10:32 pm
Guerro was never a shark, Moseley was forests bit ch and well past it. Hatton was good but not at his best weight. GGG bashes anyone at 160 he is not worried about ward till he cleans 160 so forget about itPosted July 29, 2014 10:31 pm
CORRECTION…..Ward has developed into the BEST Jabber in the ENTIRE Sport of Boxing.Posted July 29, 2014 10:30 pm
I want to SEE what Golovkin can DO with Ward’s Lightning and THUNDER Jab. Rodriguez had FITS with it. Ward has developed in the BEST Jabber in the ENTIRE Sport of Boxing and THAT is a very dangerous weapon to deal with. His Jab is like a power punch and can take the STEAM out of you. He just SPANKED an Undefeated LHW with it.Posted July 29, 2014 10:22 pm
Although DLH wasn’t Top 10 P4P at the time he WAS a CHAMP at 154. Guerrero was #10 P4P when Floyd knocked him from SHARK back to TADPOLE.Posted July 29, 2014 10:16 pm
AMEN to that Tracy. YOU agree with ME on that!Posted July 29, 2014 10:15 pm
DLH, Hatton, Mosely, Canelo, and Marquez were all top 10 P4P when they loss to PBF. Ward won the super 6, which to my memory was a tournament featuring the top 6super middle weights in the world. Ward cleaned them out easy then took out the light heavy weight champ chad Dawson like yesterday’s garbage. These two guys have nothing to prove to anyone. GGG has top 10 P4P skills in my book any that calls him a C level fighter must have Steven Wonder vision. I would just like to see him face elite comp.Posted July 29, 2014 10:13 pm
“boxtrafagass, the typical fagweather fan:”-Nope. fagsaga typical GGG fan. Focused on Mayweather but not ONE word about Ward.Posted July 29, 2014 10:12 pm
“guerrero and ortiz are not sharks u phukin nutsack. neither is maidana. GTFOH”-But Marquez WAS a SHARK when Floyd faced him. Hatton was a SHARK when Floyd faced him. Mosley was a SHARK when Floyd faced him. Guerrero was a SHARK when Floyd faced him and Canelo was a SHARK when Floyd faced. That was 5 SHARKS in 7 straight Fights. WOW!!!!!Posted July 29, 2014 10:11 pm
I just got off work and just got onto the site PUNY brain. MY Jester takes the DAY shift and I take the NIGHT shift. I just come on after work and LAUGH at how many DUMMIES he nabs for ME. I must admit its VERY entertaining!!….On another note I drove off Herron with the FACTS. He called MY picks “uneducated stabs in the dark” and since I haven’t missed ONE since he SAID that he knew that I was going to verbally TORMENT him. IF the TRUTH can TORMENT you then that’s YOUR fault. Next time stay on the side of the FACTS. When I say that I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born all you have to DO is agree with ME. How hard is it to agree with the TRUTH???? IF you don’t agree with the TRUTH then go read a comic book.Posted July 29, 2014 10:06 pm
I have GGG at #4 P4P. I’m just pointing out the FACT that he has not and is not trying to face a SHARK. He talked about Mayweather at 154 but Mayweather isn’t going to take that Fight because its nothing Historic and Blockbuster for him. He’s only taking Historic and Blockbuster Fights at 154 which is not his preferred weight. He hasn’t done a Fight at 154 that sold less than 1.5 Million on PPV. Golovkin can’t sell those numbers and that’s what it takes to entice Floyd at 154…….Ward will Fight even IF only 10,000 fans show UP. He just wants to SPANK you because he’s been licking his CHOPS for a REAL Fight.Posted July 29, 2014 10:00 pm
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guerrero and ortiz are not sharks u phukin nutsack. neither is maidana. GTFOHPosted July 29, 2014 9:54 pm
yall act like he wouldnt fight big opponents. if he was worth the risk he would have already slayed a “shark”. When was the last time Ward fought….. Irrelovent. Who else oh lemme see all of whats left of 160 he cant get big names to fight him so he is now trying to call them out and i bet he still wont have one line up. Oh and lara are you serious that wont happen because lara fight once in a blue moon and now only wants Canelo. yall need to hop off Gennnady’s nut sack let him do his thing any pro fighter can win. and you so called fight prophets and know it all boxing fans prolly about three or four of yall who blow this site up all day dont know jack. when was the last time yall watched no names live at a cheap venue and thought to yourself oh he can be great. that is what is happening with GGG just he is already found when he gets his oppertunity he will shine win or lose and most of yall will say i told you so or still hate. its like the ol Mayweather syndrome when money beat this guy or that guy it wasnt good enough now yall are blind to GGG not comparing their skill or acheivements. Just saying GGG is good and probobly will be a great has mad potential and i dont see him losing soon to any of the named opponents but he might and he will still look goodPosted July 29, 2014 9:51 pm
Mayweather is SO GREAT that he slayed 5 SHARKS in 7 consecutive Fights. WOW!!!!!!! Golovkin hasn’t slayed ONE SHARK in his whole LIFE yet and he’s already 30 yrs old. He’d better get to work…..Rigo already slayed a SHARK in LESS than half the Fights that its taking Golovkin to even get the balls to chase one. Lomachenko slayed a SHARK in his 2nd PRO Fight….Lara and Ward are the closest two SHARKS to Golovkin and he has conveniently ducked both. That’s called NO COINCIDENCE.Posted July 29, 2014 9:30 pm
“Golovkin vs Geale was Geale’s 7th World Championship Fight.. Geale beat Anthony Mundine, Felix Sturm, Roman Karmazin, and Osumau Adama – and nobody ever came close to stopping Geale in previous fights.. Strange, but Geale was terrified every minute of his fight with 3G..”-
Of COURSE he was terrified every minute of his Fight with 3G. He’s smart enough to know that he is out of his SKILL class. When you’re out of your SKILL class its like when you get thrown in the Ocean and you don’t know how to SWIM.
The Top 10 P4P Boxers are the SHARKS of Boxing. The #0 P4P Boxers are the PREY. Its time for 3G to stop chasing PREY and step UP to face another SHARK. Until then he can’t be compared to Ward or Mayweather. Those are guys who have slayed other SHARKS.
Golovkin hasn’t graduated from chasing PREY yet.Posted July 29, 2014 9:24 pm
The Boxing Monster is Andre Ward. Golovkin needs to seek out the TOUGHEST challenges available IF he can’t get the most profitable ones. He should seek out the most PRESTIGIOUS challenges TOO. Ward is the Ring KING at SMW. He is ready and WILLING to take the Fight. Stop chasing more #0 P4P opponent and take on someone in your SKILL class. Weight class is LESSER than SKILL class as long as the weight difference isn’t 20lbs and UP. Step UP to Andre Ward the PRINCE of Boxing.Posted July 29, 2014 9:18 pm
Teflon, yes you are correct about people jumping on the Broner bandwagon. I was one of them till his post fight interview after the Paulie fight. Now what you also have to note is he lost when he moved up 4 weight classes. Now we won’t get into the DeLeon fight which I thought he lost. And I know people talk about another before but I never saw it. From what I have seen of GGG is he is the truth. He has proven against 2 top 5 middles in Macklin and Geale. Where they the best? Hell na. But he did what he was supposed to. I see some flaws. Who doesn’t have them. But for me I think he is the best at 160 and until I see otherwise I’ll keep stating that. Now like I said best at 160 I didn’t include 168. That’s a whole different beast up therePosted July 29, 2014 9:13 pm
I haven’t said anything about the Klitchkos on this thread. Everybody knows I don’t like them. So what. Wlad likes to hold and lean on people. And all I’ve said about Vitali is he lost fairly against Lewis. And I’ve also stated that they are the best heavies of their generation just like Lewis was of hisPosted July 29, 2014 9:10 pm
If I was GGG I wouldn’t fight ward either not cuz he cant beat him ward isn’t on ppv. He call out cotto and Chavez cuz those guys are ppv fighters. Its where the money is ward is fading out by not fighting . Not skill wise but appealPosted July 29, 2014 8:53 pm
Loomis all fighters call out the top guys when there hungry. Floyd did it but those guys said he needs a bigger fanbase. No one said Oscar or Mosley was ducking Floyd. Its boxing that’s how it goes. Money is what drive these guys. When GGG get his chance to fight an A list guy he most likely will knock him out. Then he will pick and choose who he wants to fight because the money will be there. Just give him his time this guy going to make a lot of money. Just like all the other greats before him he will force one of these A list guys to fight him and beat the crap out of him…… Everytime someone gets a big win and call names out we start saying these fighters are scared. Theses guys boxed all their lives and just like other players from other sports they want to get paid. I like all fighters as long as they are clean. Its a beautiful sport but we criticize boxers cuz they cant fight everyone. I was mad sugar ray wouldn’t fight Iran Barkley but I would talk smack about sugar ray. Its boxingPosted July 29, 2014 8:47 pm
bears – golovkin more skilled than Ward?? lmao. No, wrong answer. More aggressive, yes, but Ward is far more skilled, fast, versatile, has much better defense, and can adapt mid-fight. GGG gets taken to boxing school by Ward.Posted July 29, 2014 8:40 pm
is ward still having legal issues?Posted July 29, 2014 8:36 pm
mundine? cotto would be good for the linear belt.Posted July 29, 2014 8:35 pm
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3g more skilled and takes ward the phuck outPosted July 29, 2014 8:32 pm
Everybody hates him cause the whites know he is better than manny and the blacks know floyd couldn’t match it with him at any weight ever. He just won a fight and instead of doing the floyd thing and saying I’ll speak to al gaymon he said ill fight the WBC champ thanks or queer quillan what ever you likePosted July 29, 2014 8:09 pm
No dino broner is over hyped. GGG is undefeated and exciting something manny and floyd are not respectively!Posted July 29, 2014 8:06 pm
Personally I have no interest in a FM fight vs GGG. I just don’t see it doing either of them good win or lose. Floyd doesn’t need it and I don’t think it would help GGG if he won. I also don’t think a Cotto fight does anything for 3G’s legacy either, as Cotto has already been stopped by smaller fighters. On the other hand both the fights would some pocket books, which as a business that is what it is about. For me 3G should either stay at MW until he cleans it out, or should stay at MW, but take on the Froch’s and Chavez Jrs for the money. I wouldn’t try out Ward until he sees if his power moves up with him. He is a skilled boxer and I think it would show up more as a SMW where he would have to use his skills and defense more.Posted July 29, 2014 7:36 pm
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3g will have his time where he is considered the best in boxingPosted July 29, 2014 7:09 pm
golovkin is overhyped.Posted July 29, 2014 6:57 pm
Get off this site ok!!! You’re a mental midget, a jerk with no respect for the sport. I recall you referring to Guerrero as a bum, now you label geale as one. When have you ever laced them up and stepped in the ring with elite fighters? Let me guess.. Never!!Posted July 29, 2014 6:51 pm
When you’ve faced and beaten top level amatuer boxers for years and have never been knocked down. When you kick the holy hell out of top rated pros in sparing. When you’ve knocked out pros who are top ten guys who don’t usually get kayoed then your an elite fighter. If you can’t recognize that then your either trolling or can’t understand the basics of this sport.Posted July 29, 2014 6:28 pm
Teflon good point but GGG skills are by no means C level.Posted July 29, 2014 6:09 pm
PEEJ I agree 100%. C level my a**. All I see is double standards on this site especially when comes to PBF and PAC. I can see it going this way for GGG already too.Posted July 29, 2014 6:07 pm
PEEJ who has GGG fought? They said Adrien Broner was the truth before he ram into Maidana he hadnt fought anyone either ggg hasnt earned his credit. Cotto, Froch, Ward would test him thoroughlyPosted July 29, 2014 6:07 pm
Well I certainly don’t rank GGG a C level fighter. I definitely think he is the best at 160. But people need to stop with the double standard crap. Saying one boxer has to do a certain thing but another one doesn’t.Posted July 29, 2014 6:01 pm
Name of credible guy GGG beat???Posted July 29, 2014 6:00 pm
GGG’s rank on the P4P list is way overrated given his résumé compared to the others. His skill is undeniable though. His fans on this site have a double standard for him just like PBF and PAC fans do. Nothing new here.Posted July 29, 2014 5:59 pm
Anonymous and Truth Seeker both racists. Anonymous to 3rd power.Posted July 29, 2014 5:57 pm
GGG is over hyped I seen weakness in his skills he is slow a stalker and a plotter who realize to much on his power like Mike Tyson did, reality is its easy to look good beating up cab drivers wait until he faces a real fighter before you say he has arrived. He will get KTFO if he tried to do Cotto or Chavez what he did to Geale who by the way was a bumPosted July 29, 2014 5:52 pm
get over it
eric nothing about GGG is a interest to Floyd first of all he is with HBO andFloyd is with showtime they are in two different weight classes 20 lbs or more apart, And yes he beat a big Canelo who probably weighted 175 for the fight, But the reality is Floyd is small he cannot even make 154 when he fights at 154 he always comes in under around 150-152 at the most, GGG is 160 besides he hasnt earned a shot and hasnt fought no one worth talking about its crazy to think he is getting ducked. GGG is unproven and big deal he has KO power he is untested let him beat Cotto , Chavez or even Canelo GGG is way too big for Floyd skill wise he is slow and Floyd will pick him apart but the weight issue and networks the fight will never happen, I guess Floyd should fight Klitscko next as well lol….Posted July 29, 2014 5:25 pm
Well then Eric you are wrong. Floyd fought an undefeated 154lb fighter. So you are giving yourself that headache. And what I have been saying is GGG said and can stay at 160 and there should be no issues. But again it has been GGG and his team saying they will take on anybody from 154 to 175. Floyd has been on record saying he is not a Jr Middle and he only fought those 3 fighters because he felt his boxing skills was much better than theirs. And he said he was going to finish his career at 147 because that is what he was. GGG brought some of this on himself when he called out 3 other weight classes. Ward accepted the challenge and even Hopkins said he would meet him at a catch weight. And he chose to negotiate with Chavez Jr.Posted July 29, 2014 5:19 pm
Quillen has already said he wants to fight GGG. So he has not been silent. And Oscar has said he wants to make the fight happen. Now the question is will they allow a Golden Boy fighter on HBO. Yes Ishida beat a boxer who had been off for a long time, was not with his correct trainer and by the way has no defense. His defense is taking punishment to dish his own punishment. That doesn’t make Ishida good. One good win doesn’t make you good or great. Like Tarver beating Jones doesn’t make Tarver great. Doesn’t make him elite.Posted July 29, 2014 5:07 pm
Ishida is the only boxer to beat James Kirkland, who is now 32-1. That efficient KO is how he qualified to fight Golovkin. He got creamed of course.
Golovkin vs Geale was Geale’s 7th World Championship Fight.. Geale beat Anthony Mundine, Felix Sturm, Roman Karmazin, and Osumau Adama – and nobody ever came close to stopping Geale in previous fights.. Strange, but Geale was terrified every minute of his fight with 3G..
Prokas never came close to being stopped by anyone else, but Golovkin smashed him easily.
Everyone knows who the power is at middleweight.
Golovkin fights the toughest opponents available and is calling out Cotto and Quillin.. Their silence speaks volumes.. They’re not anxious to get knocked out, but it’s getting harder to come up with excuses.
Golovkin went to Cotto’s stomping grounds, MSG — and is willing to stick around for Cotto.. He’s amping up the pressure.
Where’s Woop Woop??? Who obnoxiously predicted GGG was in for a boxing lesson.Posted July 29, 2014 5:02 pm
Eric, you are entitled to your opinion there are probably a few MW’s who might give Floyd trouble… His size and lack of power sooner or later cannot be compensated by skill… Just as there are a few Cruisers or HW’s that could stop Ward… But they are NOT better fighters just WAY out of their divisions… Same reason GGG is NOT going to 175 soon where his punches wont sting the same…Posted July 29, 2014 5:00 pm
I gave you a headache. What did I say Eric? That GGG said he was staying at 160? That gives you a headache?Posted July 29, 2014 4:57 pm
Eric, no one said Hatton puffed up to all muscle between fights but again that’s his problem… When he fought Floyd he was lineal champ at the weight and undefeated…Money May knocked him out and suddenly he is “Tiny” GTFOH… Mayweathers fight weights are about as consistent as the rising of the sun…Reality is that the same guys Mayweather defeated others got BIG cred for even if it came AFTER Floyd…. Tark gives Shaw Porter All Star Status for besting Malignaggi with 7 losses meanwhile he has excuses when its an FMJ beating Cotto or Maidana who is TOUGH and much stronger than Paulie MalignaggiPosted July 29, 2014 4:56 pm
If Mayweather fights GGG what would he gain? First of all guys like Bears and Tark would have a Get out of Jail Free card for Golovkin should he lose ie “GGG was drained, Floyd made him comedown to 154 where he never boxed and put a rehydration clause on him” flipside is that Mayweather puts himself in the ring with a guy who is a lot larger than himself at a point in his career where despite his skills Mayweather is VERY near retirement… Why give a shot to a guy who brings NO money and is not even close to your weight class…???? This guy was gonna face Chavez Jr who was a HUGE MW and is a big SMW, yet Mayweather who hit the ring at 148 his last bout is supposed to keep pushing the envelope in order to appease enemies that will NEVER be appeased? That’s dumb and not smart business… They said he would NOT fight Canelo and he made it look easy, Alvarez is big enough and young enough to have taken FMJ were it not for as Farhood put it “he was facing the best boxer of his generation… HOLLA!Posted July 29, 2014 4:53 pm
Like most observers the author is harping on GGG’s punching power. Yes his 17 straight KOs and highest KO% in boxing is impressive. But more importantly he’s got better boxing skills than most KO artists. Watch his feet, he’s always in position to strike and switches seamlessly from defense to offense. That comes from the 300 amateur matches. People forget he was one of the ATG amateurs, along with Lomachenko and Rigo.Posted July 29, 2014 4:48 pm
Eric, how does beating GGG solidify anything for Mayweather? Floyds legacy is solid the fact that guys blew up on fight night to 165 is NOT the same as facing a natural MW who is gonna be MUCH stronger and heavier especially given Mayweathers advancing age… These guys are in their prime and looking to physically handicap the smaller and OLDER boxer… Golovkin has about 1/3 of Mayweathers skillset on his best day but he is MUCH bigger and more powerful… Lets see GGG move up 1 weight class then we can discuss the 5 that Mayweather has competed in…Posted July 29, 2014 4:47 pm
Bears, if Mayweather beginning at 130 has no bearing on the fact that he has physically maxed out then why are you whining about Golovkin fighting at 168???? He OBVIOUSLY walks around well above 160 when he is not boxing??? Why were you calling Hatton “Little” when he walked around at 180 when he was not fighting at times?? Hatton began at 140 even lower than Mayweather yet when Money May Gang Raped him you were sympathetic… See you are SO blatant with you double standards due to the ravages inbreeding has wrought upon your DNA… You lack the basic intelligence to see I am going to use your past comments to destroy your future…Posted July 29, 2014 4:44 pm
Yeah Q, there is NO ignoring that GGG was VERY close to inking that deal till Chavez Jr went Loco as usual… Chavez is BIGGER than Ward he was HUGE at MW… Yet the GGG supporters despite their boasts are SCARED of him facing a moderate puncher like Andre at 168…. Because Ward is NOT gonna get clipped on the head and go down like Geale or Fight scared, he will likely attack the way he went at Dawson and Kessler which put them on the backfoot and took them out of their zone… GGG is used to seeing scared rabbits backing off instead of stepping to him and taking his distance… Froch said it best when he faced Ward, “he was always either too close or too far away” he masters distance and with his MEAN inside work GGG would learn that he is gonna have to rely on skill as opposed to fireworks and then the walls would come tumbling down… Bears and the rest of these BUMS wanna take shots at SOG but they don’t wanna see Golovkin get outclassed, they are trying to get him in bouts with 154 pounders and WW’s if they can…Posted July 29, 2014 4:40 pm
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“mayweather started at 130″
how does that matter in any way air head? r u pretending he does not walk around 150 something? are u pretending people dont grow?
so canelo is really a blown up lightweight?
u phukin retardPosted July 29, 2014 4:39 pm
John, if I am such a Racist then why not produce a post where I am attacking a particular race? FACT is that you are feeling emasculated and helpless because I have entered the shrine that you think has been erected for Golovkin and I have posed some serious questions about him and his career… Beyond that you do NOT have any AUTHENTIC posts of mine that are bigoted…I LOVE your anger it amuses me (I admit to being a bit cruel) but FACT is my points are salient… I don’t have to prove ANYTHING to you fact is that YOU have to prove it to me that’s the nature of this dynamic, I am in the superior position and thus you dance to my tune… Do you understand?Posted July 29, 2014 4:37 pm
SREDMOND: you’re 100% right. And he wants to fight 168 JCC, but not ward.Posted July 29, 2014 4:34 pm
Wow non Americans dominating that is funny. So how do you know who is American and who isn’t on here?Posted July 29, 2014 4:28 pm
Peej, they want SMW cleared of maximum risk so that 168 does become a possibility… It kills his Superman PR campaign if he swerves Ward or goes in there plodding forward and ends up looking like Froch did… No issue with him staying at 160 as long as rhetoric is confined to THAT weight class.Posted July 29, 2014 4:12 pm
Ward and Mayweather 2 boring overhyped cherry-picking boxers.I just wish these 2 pathetic guys will disappearPosted July 29, 2014 4:11 pm
Why is it they say Ward has to move up but GGG doesn’t? You can’t have a double standard. GGG said he is staying at 160. Ward said he is staying at 168. End of story.Posted July 29, 2014 4:10 pm
GGG is fighting HERE in the US why has is NOT in his homeland boxing? because he would DIE in relative obscurity this is the big stage and I live in the BIG city on the BIG stage… Holla!Posted July 29, 2014 4:01 pm
MSG is NOT “crying out for GGG” its crying out for Miguel Cotto… Golovkins ratings fell for this latest telecast according to HBO… He is a fun guy to watch but he has to get some noteworthy opponents in the ring with him… Geale is a Good MW but he did not have the name that GGG craves…. HOLLA!Posted July 29, 2014 4:00 pm
Sredmond, it is killing you that no one cares about Ward. You remind me of the guy that used to post non stop cheerleading about Chauncey Welliver, but for Ward. Why does GGG create such a buzz? Is MSG crying out for Ward to fight there? Why not? You personally have never left the USA have you?Posted July 29, 2014 3:58 pm
Bears you say “Ward was facing guys that were foregone conclusions” you mean like the SUPER long odds that GGG has been getting against guys like Ishida, Stevens, Rosado and Adama? Ward took on the BEST SMW’s of his ERA and routed them all… Rodriguez was the #1 Contender and he took him apart AFTER surgery… Meanwhile a fool like you still tickles his shriveled willy thinking about Martinez leftover Mackin getting drilled by Golovkin…Posted July 29, 2014 3:55 pm
Will Ward be fighting in the next three years.Posted July 29, 2014 3:54 pm
Rodriguez was a BETTER fighter than 97% of the guys that Golovkin has faced and that’s a FACT… He was an undefeated boxer when Andre faced him, he had won the tourney in Monaco and had stopped Grachev in short order… Solid and Strong PRIME fighter and after a layoff and surgery Ward took it to him like no ones business… Meanwhile GGG has been facing EASY boxers his whole career absent Geale and what was left of Macklin… Get a Clue IDIOT…Posted July 29, 2014 3:52 pm
Bears is NOW changing his tune and assigning Ward a body mass of 200 pounds like a 2 year old… Ward is a well trained, highly disciplined fighter he is NOT walking around 32 pounds over his fighting weight… Just like GGG has to make weight like everyone else he is NOT walking around at 160 flat all year round waiting to be weighed in.. Ward vs Kovalev makes LESS sense than Ward vs Stevenson… Stevenson is the Lineal Champ at 175 and has the bigger name… Why the hell would Ward go after the #2 man in the weight class if he wanted to box at 175??Posted July 29, 2014 3:48 pm
BEARS is the real deal.Posted July 29, 2014 3:48 pm
Ward and GGG would be a great fight. There’s not much for Glovkin to do at 160 other than go after the 2 lessor title holders. Cotto and Alvarez will make much more money by fighting each other, then the winner of that fight will lobby to get Floyd next year. If Ward wants the GGG fight, he needs to get his promoter to work for it.Posted July 29, 2014 3:48 pm
John do you work with homeless people.Posted July 29, 2014 3:46 pm
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i got 159.5 pound 3g stopping 200 pound ward! u heard it here first!!!
hell yeah i want 3g vs ward or kovalev vs ward all day!!!kovalev vs ward makes most sense right now but wards scared and hoping for more forgone conclusion bouts like rodriguezPosted July 29, 2014 3:42 pm
Give the Racist word a miss.you sound like a fu#king politician.Posted July 29, 2014 3:29 pm
Look at all the butt hurt ni@@ers…Posted July 29, 2014 3:21 pm
Why are Canelos Fans so terrified of him fighting GGG at 154lbs???Posted July 29, 2014 2:47 pm
Bears, is TERRIFIED of Golovkin being in the ring with a guy who is not gonna stand there and get KOed and will box CIRCLES around Golovkin… Chavez Jr is BIGGER than Ward and he walks around EASILY in the 200’s he was 183 fight nights when he was a 160 pounder… Bears knows that Dre is NOT the one for GGG…. Meanwhile this BUM poster will suggest a scrawny WW like Mayweather is ducking by not fighting a full 160 pounder after he (Floyd began at 130)Posted July 29, 2014 2:43 pm
So let’s see GGG can fight Chavez jr. at 168 but Ward is too big? LMAO!!!! You guys are already protecting him…Posted July 29, 2014 2:38 pm
B E A R S—stop lying how could Ward make 168lbs. consistently walking around at nearly 200lbs.Posted July 29, 2014 2:35 pm
Anonymous, Wards name and other more accomplished boxers names are being bandied about in order to PUFF UP the GGG story… I KNOW that I am being a party pooper by pointing out that a number of these claims are without merit and don’t stand under scrutiny… Trying to control the manner and content that I post is a colossal WASTE of time on your part… I am pretty immune to the impotent whining of a poster known as “Anonymous” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!Posted July 29, 2014 2:34 pm
OK if GGG is staying at 160 then lets NOT hear about how “everyone is ducking him” that means he can realistically only be avoided at 160 since he wants to Unify there…He was deep in negotiations with Chavez Jr at 168, literally one signature away so I guess his fans and his trainer are ready to tame the rhetoric and confine the convo to 160 pounds?Posted July 29, 2014 2:30 pm
Sredmond, no one mentioned Ward, this is about Golovkin. You brought Ward’s name up from nowhere out of pure jealousy. No one, no one cares about Ward. The networks are not clamouring for him. Whereas GGG is a star in the making. He is on the cusp of breaking through, only if guys like Quillin would stop running. A bit like Stevenson avoiding Kovalev, notice a pattern?Posted July 29, 2014 2:24 pm
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ward is 30 pounds heavier than 168Posted July 29, 2014 2:23 pm
I meant he should fight the mentioned fighters in that order. Unify all the middleweight belts and then move to 168lb.Posted July 29, 2014 2:18 pm
Ward and Froch are staying in their divisions. They are not calling out anybody but other 168lb fighters.Posted July 29, 2014 2:15 pm
Trout is a different type of fighter than GGG is. Trout is a counter puncher and has good reaction to move out of the way of punches when he is not leading. Once Trout starts leading he has no defense. GGG doesn’t move like Trout. Not saying Cenelo would beat GGG but Trout is nothing like GGG.Posted July 29, 2014 2:14 pm
He should fight the following boxers:
1.Quilllin(WBO-belt) 2.Soliman(IBF-belt) 3.Cotto(WBC-belt) 4.Chavez jr.(money fight)
5. Ward(WBA-super middleweight) 6.Froch(IBF-super middleweight)Posted July 29, 2014 2:07 pm
When Triple G fight somebody, then we will see. Until now, all I see a man a couple of years shy of Pac’s age and haven’t yet fought anybody. CHERRYPICKING KING!!Posted July 29, 2014 1:54 pm
some fans thought Trout beat Canelo. GGG is a better boxer then Trout in my opinion.Posted July 29, 2014 1:48 pm
GGG has a good chance to beat all those guys. Canelo for sure in my opinion.Posted July 29, 2014 1:45 pm
What’s Ward doing? When is he fighting again? Does he have any opponents lined up?Posted July 29, 2014 1:43 pm
Anonymous consider GROWING a pair and developing a discernible online presence.. As long as you dogs keep bringing up Ward and knocking a VETTED and GREAT fighter in order to prop up GGG then we will have to discuss the matter..Posted July 29, 2014 1:28 pm
Sredmond, this thread isn’t at all about Ward, who no one cares about at all. It is about a beast, Golovkin. Stop being jealous.Posted July 29, 2014 1:20 pm
GGG is a big superwelterweight at minimum and Mayweather will never be at that weight; he’s too lean and entrenched in welterweight. GGG should not be calling out smaller fighters although that’s where the money flows. Even Cotto is an overblown welterweight. Canelo is posing as a middleweight but is really GGG’s size, so is Chavez Jr. They are a better match for GGG. Canelo is slow but has boxing skills enough to give GGG a run for his money. Forget Pacquiao, he’s a small welterweight at best.Posted July 29, 2014 12:51 pm
Never knew Tark had five brothers.Posted July 29, 2014 12:30 pm
Loomis ALOT of fighters have “never fought outside the US” a lot of foreign fighters have never fought outside of their regions… All the intangibles you discussed are just that “psychological assumptions”….. This WHOLE “fighting at home thing” was hoisted on Ward because he handily beat TWO foreign fighters who had a following and he created some serious bitterness (Froch and Kessler) if hometown advantage was such a perceived edge then why was Kessler the favorite when the tourney began and why was Ward seen as having drawn a bad hand? This is an excuse that has been used to quell the embarrassment that Dre wrought Froch and Kessler supporters… With that logic we should invalidate Froch’s win over Bute… Froch beat Johnson in AC, why could he NOT beat Ward???Posted July 29, 2014 12:22 pm
Problem is fighting all over the US is not considered home. Home would be fighting in his home state. As a matter of fact when he fought Froch, there were more Froch fans than Ward fans. And also Ward is the Champion, you want to beat the Champ you should go to him.Posted July 29, 2014 12:15 pm
Sredmond, so is there no such thing as home advantage? Thats not meaning score cards , I, m meaning the whole aura of fighting away from your home country is bound to to have some effect however small sychologically, the travelling , intimidating atmosphere, away from family and friends, the partisan crowd, the hostile media etc…… even the atrocious cold british weather could effect ward. The fact is that ward has never ever fought outside usa as a professional, froch said being home for the bute fight made a huge difference in his confidence and the great performance .Posted July 29, 2014 12:12 pm
what rubbish tark supermiddle is hot at the minute not passed out. you smoking somethingPosted July 29, 2014 12:07 pm
Tark, do you REALLY think that the dream sequences you spew on these threads are going to be mistaken for actual scenarios? “Ward sitting around thinking about Groves” yeah right… Dre wants a payday against Chavez Jr because he earned it cleaning out the division..Posted July 29, 2014 11:57 am
So Loomis in over 380 fights 3G has never even been down and now Froch is going to KO him? Froch may beat him, but KO him, give me a break.Posted July 29, 2014 11:48 am
It’s Me, Ernie
Tard lives in his own world. Utter nonsensePosted July 29, 2014 11:45 am
Ward has a problem… He’s a great boxer but he’s in a passed out dvision. Worst in Boxing.
He was begging for Groves to PLLLLEEEAAAASSS KO ol man Froch – so he’d have somebody to fight.. Groves is a wet, no talent potato — and he was putting his future in his hands. LMFAO!!!Posted July 29, 2014 11:36 am
Swedish Boxing Fan those are titles. There are not 4 Champions. Cotto is the only Champion. You say we want 1 unified Champ. Well let me give an example why the titles are not meaningless since there is a unified Champ. Hopkins unified all the belts, his belts were passed to Taylor then passed to Pavlik. Now somehow all the belts got stripped. So what is the point of unifying the belts again. It has already been done. All that will happen is they will be stripped again. No need to unify. Just stick with one belt and that is the belt Cotto has.Posted July 29, 2014 11:31 am
Actually Ward is not irrelevant other than him having issues with his promoter. He is the Champion at 168. You have to go through him to be the Champ.Posted July 29, 2014 11:29 am
Swedish Boxing Fan
The fans want to see Gennady Golovkin fight the other world middleweight title holders, Golovkin himsewlf just nrecently went out to the media expressing big time interest in fighting the other champions. Went so far to say “Willing to be the B-side against other top champ”
– Gennady Golovkin, the WBA/IBO middleweight champ
4 champions is to much for the classic middleweight division. We want ONE unified, undisputed middleweight champion of the world, lets make it happen.
We are tired of cherry pickings. We are tired of how the title holders avoiding each-other. We wat ONE champ.
Even 49 year old warrior Bernard Hopkins have unified the WBA/IBF light heavyweight titles and is aiming for fighting Lineal/WBC champion Adonis Stevenson or undefeated WBO champ Sergey Kovalev, and again he is 49 YEARS OLD CHAMP and is still hungry for more titles and glory.Posted July 29, 2014 11:28 am
Ward is irrelevant, he is not fighting, he should not be in the discussion, even if he was fighting he is not a big draw. Froch v Golovkin at Wembley stadium would be a very big fight.Posted July 29, 2014 11:21 am
I see Golovkin is the Flavour of the month.who is it next month porter. LOL.Posted July 29, 2014 11:14 am
Loomis, Ward does NOT need to prove he can beat Froch 2x, he fought Froch outside of Oakland the first time.. This mythical notion that Froch is invulnerable in Wembley does not fly.. He was on his AZZ against Groves and in real danger of losing when the ref bailed him out the first time.. To his credit he flattened George the second time, that said the ONLY way Froch beats Ward is via KO and Ward both knows this and already figured out Froch first time around… The notion that Ward has to somehow make Froch’s life easier flys in the face of boxing tradition as the UD loser Froch would need to pack his bags and come fight Dre… That said GGG would be made to look inept against Ward… When the KO did not come his (Golovkins) plan B would prove inadequate and he would be outclassed by SOG.Posted July 29, 2014 11:01 am
yeah yeah yeah. Trying to deflect. Its ok. Your boxing knowledge lacks. Just do some research. Try and retain the knowledge before posting so you can at least have some people thinking you know what you are talking about. This is a tough sport, its not for everybody. So if you want to stay with bowling or something that might be best for you.Posted July 29, 2014 10:56 am
I am not saying this a golovkin hater , I actually think he is wanting to prove himself , but!!!! I really think if that fight were to happen then I think golovkin would get knocked out and I really believe that!! And I am making no excuses for saying that.Posted July 29, 2014 10:39 am
–bears is TARK’S l0ve h0 le. lolPosted July 29, 2014 10:36 am
Eddie hearn froch, s promoter said……froch fears no man, a fight between golovkin and froch would be epic, if we can not get chavez jnr then we would be interested in the golovkin fight.Posted July 29, 2014 10:32 am
Actually Ward said he would travel to face Froch if they would just make it worth his time. So I think it has more to do with money than anything. But Froch has also said he is not really looking for a rematch because of Wards style.Posted July 29, 2014 10:29 am
ahhh getting all butt hurt cause you were proven wrong. And how am I racist again? Idiot.Posted July 29, 2014 10:28 am
To be quite honest, I don, t want to see froch fight ggg , because if froch was to beat him people would say ggg was the small man and 160 fighter and froch would get no credit what so ever. Chavez jnr at the garden or try to get the “home alone” andre ward to fight froch at wembley with 80.000 screaming fans. I doubt ward would do that one in the lions den.Posted July 29, 2014 10:27 am
And here once again proving you wrong. Quote from Froch
“Sure, Golovkin is frightening but I fear no man. It would be an unbelievable super-fight that would get everybody excited – him or Chavez Jr.”Posted July 29, 2014 10:19 am
So then what everybody is posting about it is obviously not correct since nobody knows what the answer was? That is if you are correct which I seriously doubt.Posted July 29, 2014 10:15 am
Froch and jnr in negotiations to fight!!! Ggg in negotiations to fight paulie malignaggi !!!!???Posted July 29, 2014 10:02 am
Apparently not. :PPosted July 29, 2014 9:48 am
Oh great, am I banned again?Posted July 29, 2014 9:48 am
If Lara ran from Canel, imagine how much running he would do with GGG. That would be another marathon.Posted July 29, 2014 9:43 am
A lot of people are bad mouthing Geale, but when all is said and done, when Geale looks in the mirror the one thing he does not see is a coward. A lot of the fighters at 160lbs can’t say that and it be true.Posted July 29, 2014 9:43 am
B E A R S and Tark are butt buddies. lolPosted July 29, 2014 9:14 am
I’m not saying Floyd would beat GGG but saying Macklin only landed 1 jab is dumb. Who cares what he landed. He fights nothing like Floyd and was scared to fight GGG. Not sure where all this GGG is a great boxer. He has yet to show that. He showed he can stalk and destroy fighters. But he was getting hit with plenty of punches from Geale. And Alexander did a lot of grappling against Maidana. Plus he wasn’t wit Garcia at that time. Maidana has improved tremendously since being with Garcia and if he were to rematch Alexander I think he would win by KO
Posted July 28, 2014 9:42 pm
I agree with some of your post.
War MAIDANAPosted July 29, 2014 8:58 am
The sport needs more guys that are willing to fight the best. PAC and Floyd need to take notes.
PeacePosted July 29, 2014 8:28 am
Bears is an idiot
Read my posts to see just whyPosted July 29, 2014 8:03 am
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@anonous il stab you’re throatPosted July 29, 2014 7:40 am
Thanks for proving my point with the fake wannabe gangster talk you moron.Posted July 29, 2014 7:26 am
B E A R S
seriously you have no handle your worse thAn a tw@t your a hand jobPosted July 29, 2014 7:25 am
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cool cock smoker. elaborate in detail or wallow a shallow biatch talkn stupid a$$ shallow smack with no point. oh wait u hAve no hAndle unr already biatchPosted July 29, 2014 7:24 am
Bears seriously your such a tw@t. Talking about ‘body of work’ and getting ‘established’ on ESB? It doesn’t matter how long you’ve been posting on ESB it is clear you are clueless about boxing and like to pull out the fake gangster talk when someone says something you disagree with.Posted July 29, 2014 7:21 am
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if im gonna be lumped in with some poster, tarks a fine poster to be lumped in with:
a lot of these turds must be new or be altsPosted July 29, 2014 7:18 am
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hey man, when u have a boxing related post let me know u vagin@’s.Posted July 29, 2014 7:16 am
BEARS = Best Cock sucker of ignorant TarkPosted July 29, 2014 6:50 am
Beardy buck bears has no wiskers , gets ko, d on here on a daily basis…. one hand down his soiled panties and the other clattering away on his keyboard , ESB , S homer simpson hahahahahahahaPosted July 29, 2014 6:36 am
make a fight with canelo @157. thats 3 lbs. up (2 really) for canelo,and 3 down for mr. golovkin. if that doesn’t work for anyone i have masterminded the perfect fight where bernard hopkins who said he would fight floyd mayweather jr. @ 160,meet mr. golovkin there,or @ 165. there are fights to be made. the best fight the best.Posted July 29, 2014 6:32 am
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i would like to see 3g smoke quillen but soliman is a hard dude. he is one of the hardest in fact. i dont know who has greater scalp value. to me it is actually soliman. he really is Hard dude. quillen needz plucked. quillen to soliman in quick fashion makes most sense cuz cotto is prolly gonna face canelo.
b/w canelo And cotto we have some serious boxing drAma involving 3g and the mockery of the 160 pound title cotto is quickly turning things into with talk of brAdley at a catch.
honestly cotto should not even be allowed thatPosted July 29, 2014 6:00 am
kid choco needs to step …….and quit being such a b!tch …..Posted July 29, 2014 5:54 am
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you are right adrian! 3g would prove against lara but that bout will never happen. 3g only goes to 154 for fraud and fraud is wanting to fight the a mere cons and maidana’s of the world at this juncture. frauds a fraud simply put good luck to the cherry MAIDANA!!!
we all knowPosted July 29, 2014 5:35 am
Ggg’s critics*Posted July 29, 2014 5:32 am
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3g may be the number one attraction soo n. i dont wanna see my boy canelo against him. like to see 3g tAke ward out without phukin up canelos deal at 160. canelo and 3g does not need to happen anytime soon. two of my fav fighters not right for eachother now but later HELL YEAH.Posted July 29, 2014 5:31 am
Lara vs GGG
DID YOU NOT SEE LARAS LAST FIGHT…..FKN CRACKHEAD
Idiot !!!! Who manage to beat or stop Lara convincingly so far eh???
lol he wont even step up and fight manny…….Posted July 29, 2014 5:21 am
Can GGG drop down one level in weight an knock Mayweather into retirement?Posted July 29, 2014 5:13 am
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hey phuk you cyprus. u get thAt old timer? dont u phukin tell me phuk head. i know what the phux up. i would sooner piss on your face. u c*ntPosted July 29, 2014 4:32 am
@Bears-First of all Tark is a “big boy” he can answer for his self, so stay the fuk out of grown folks conversation. Second of all if he’s bragging on Terry Norris beating old washed up Ray Leonard he don’t know sht…are you gonna hold his dck why he pees too?Posted July 29, 2014 4:23 am
Bo Bo Olson
Back in the day we all knew who John, the beast, Mugabi was. The shock was how easily Hagler beat him. I didn’t bet that fight…back then I use to bet fights.
Had Hagler hair, he’d won the fight, much of the punches the Spitter landed were sliding off the top of Hagler’s head. Had he hair the blind judges could have see that.
Yep, punches slipped off the top of the head count as misses not hits.Posted July 29, 2014 4:09 am
Jeesus..Posted July 29, 2014 4:01 am
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seriously a log in site needs started equivalent to east sidePosted July 29, 2014 3:50 am
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terminology i startedPosted July 29, 2014 3:50 am
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cyprus is an idiot another no namer: the opposite of tark. dude, tark has earned his keep years ago. the dudes one ofthe best posters at east side hands down your talking east side greatness when your talkin tark.
u nutsacks are no nAme nobodys and noone even knows your posts or how they can relate it to boxing.
im tired of no namers running their mouths: they have no idea they have to ESTABISH at east side under a handle and have their own “BODY OF WORK”Posted July 29, 2014 3:49 am
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loomis=idiotPosted July 29, 2014 3:45 am
Ggg needs to rip that belt frim Soliman,then fight Chuckie,cos Chuckie clearly can’t make 154 and is a natural 160lber now. Ggg vs Cotto woyld be interesting while it lasted,but it would be like the first Marg fight,only worse for Cotto,the size discrepancy is just too much,could bea retirement fight for Cotto.At least Cotto woyld have the balls to fight ggg.Quillen won’t go near ggg.YellowPosted July 29, 2014 3:41 am
GGG fight Ward and lets see how tough you really are..Posted July 29, 2014 3:41 am
Manny is fighting in China to avoid US taxes and drug testing.Posted July 29, 2014 3:35 am
Swiss666 …..Pascal, kessler, dirrell, bute, jonston, taylor, groves, mack …….all in a line , when golovkin beats that class of oponent back to back lets debate it .Posted July 29, 2014 3:34 am
@Tark–Are you a kid? or just stupid and don’t know anything about boxing? EVERYBODY who knows ANYTHING about boxing knows Sugar Ray Leonard moved back down to 147lbs to fight Terry Norris after he had been fighting at middle weight. That’s the same as giving Pacman credit for beating Oscar at 147lbs. How old are you??Posted July 29, 2014 3:31 am
Geale is a fcking bum and punching bag to make GGG look good that was it…Posted July 29, 2014 3:28 am
Floyd is way too small for GGG he is not crazy enough to venture that far up in weight no he is best at 147. No way he fights at 160 he is not stupid Floyd has trouble even making 154, I guess he should fight Klitscko as well lol…Posted July 29, 2014 3:26 am
Golovkin is another over hyped puncher , he will be exposed soon ! Mark my words !Posted July 29, 2014 3:23 am
Froch will hammer golovkin into submission or unto the canvas. Watch this ass whooing if loeffler allows it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bring it on…….
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Froch will hammer golovkin into submission or unto the canvas. Watch this ass whooing if loeffler allows it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bring it on…….Posted July 29, 2014 3:16 am
Name one good fighter GGG beat??? Go ahead I will wait opps there is none…Posted July 29, 2014 3:15 am
Someone still loves posting loomis name. I really am admired as a boxing pundit, lmfaoPosted July 29, 2014 3:12 am
Idiots like enough already hate that GGG is so good. He is undefeated and exciting something the likes of floyd and manny are notPosted July 29, 2014 3:08 am
Who cares about manny or floyd there is another undefeated champ that would punch floyds head out of the MGMPosted July 29, 2014 3:07 am
TARK you are another pactard risk a 0 on his record? Manny hasnt been a treat since 09, 40 year old Marquez dropped him. Manny agreed to testing but not until 4 days before the fight. And he turned down 40 million how who needs who? Manny is broke and owes the IRS his life. I guess Floyd knew Manny would turn down the contract when he sent it over? You are a ass clown how many other fighters would turn down a deal like that? 40 million over a blood test. No Floyd hen on to become the highest paid fighter in history and Manny goes on to get KTFO by Marquez classic, Now he is reduced to fighting no name fighters is unheard parts of China. lol Of course he will do anything for the fight now because he has nothing and whats a handoutPosted July 29, 2014 3:00 am
That’s right GGG can only face who will fight him, and idiots trying to being ward into it is stupid, ain’t happening till all middle belts are hisPosted July 29, 2014 2:58 am
JUST FIGHT THE BEST OUT THEIR…Whether be a power puncher ..It dont matter if GG fights the best ……….Thats all he can do …..Haters going to Hate ……….Posted July 29, 2014 2:45 am
GGG needs to fight a power puncher to silence the critics. The only thing they have to argue now is that he gets hit regularly, let’s see him get hit by a power puncher and return fire and win. I personally think he will beat any Jnr Middle or Middleweight. I’m not fully convinced about Super Middles just yet.Posted July 29, 2014 2:30 am
enough of you bull already enough already, “Now as far as ducking Floyd beat everyone except for pacaroid who chose to walk away over blood testing”
Pac agreed to take all the tests years ago. Floyd kept moving the goalposts until pac said he’d test between rounds if that would make Floyd fight.
Then it became the money split… When that was settled it became Arum…
Whenever they had an agreement on everything, Floyd invented a new obstacle… Now he just flat out admits he doesn’t want the fight… He’s just not going to risk his “O” for Pacquiao.
Pac always wanted the fight… Floyd always avoided the fight.Posted July 29, 2014 2:28 am
Enough just another fool that’s going to have to live with floyds time at the top is done. There is a new king starting out and there is kov waiting for ward toPosted July 29, 2014 2:08 am
Golovkin wants Cotto next, he would knock Cotto out, but first he will fight Soliman for a unification fight, winning another title will give him more power for a big fight., Golovkin wants Cotto now, but Cotto is afraid, very afraid. Golovkin also said that he would come all the way down to 154 and fight Void, but Void is a damned coward and will not fight him, nor will he fight Pac.
Geales’ manager: Golovkin is one of the best middleweights of all time!!!Posted July 29, 2014 1:50 am
GGG is another over hyped fighter who hasnt fought anyone yet. Once again these ass clowns giving guys credit when they beating up tomato can fighters, GGG looks good but on paper what has he done nothing? He has no killers on his resume. Floyd is way too small for GGG Floyd cannot even make 154 and GGG is 160. Now as far as ducking Floyd beat everyone except for pacaroid who chose to walk away over blood testing thats not ducking and Manny is under a slave contract.Posted July 29, 2014 1:31 am
BEAT ………..Posted July 29, 2014 1:25 am
The guy froch just beat is not on GGG level. Froch stopped him twice and froch doesn’t want GGG.Posted July 29, 2014 1:19 am
@Adrian – “So next the best fight for ggg in my opinion would be ggg vs Lara”
Well, it’d be waaayyy down my list of fights I’d want to see. Nonetheless, GBP would need to sort out with Showtime to allow the fight to go ahead on HBO (i.e. there’s not a chance in hell Golovkin sidesteps HBO for a low-money guy like Lara).
If it did go ahead, I don’t see Lara lasting the distance, even if he does spend half the fight running aimlessly around the ring. The dude’s non-committal style only worked somewhat against Canelo because Alvarez is not a stylistic chaser… he’s a counter puncher.
Cotto, Canelo or Ward at 168 would give GGG the business he is unproven…
LOLS…. Canelo couldn’t even fleet of foot light punching Lara ….Canelo spent the whole fight swinging and missing all night …Against GG ..It would be Saul doing the running ….And then getting KTFO …..Posted July 29, 2014 12:55 am
Lara vs GGG
DID YOU NOT SEE LARAS LAST FIGHT…..FKN CRACKHEADPosted July 29, 2014 12:41 am
The best fight for ggg to prove that he is a good boxer over all not just a ko artist is the fight with Lara , Lara is a slick awkward boxer a southpaw and a convincing win over Lara will considerbly raise his stock and will prove the critics wrong that he can fight anyone with all different style !
Triple G has looked pretty good but now we to put him in with the lions and tigers and bears oh my, AA, Froch, the guy Froch just beat, Canelo who on fight night will be a light heavy weight at 171, Cotto, Ward. Those are the guys who true test.Posted July 28, 2014 11:52 pm
He isn’t a monster.He’s a Fraud beating C listers.NOT IMPRESSED
WARD VS GGGPosted July 28, 2014 11:32 pm
Pretty obvious that isn’t the real Peej by his dumbass posts.Posted July 28, 2014 11:31 pm
Fake peej…you are a fat C%NT.You name altering F%G douchebag.Posted July 28, 2014 11:29 pm
Bitter Girl I would not call May a coward then man has fought from 130 to 154 beating them all. He has taking on Canelo who was supposed to be the one, the up and comer bad man on the block beat with easy, Cotto, Mosley, etc doing all this when he really only ways 148 pounds. You guys forget Mayweather is not a big guy buy his skills make him 6ft tall. If it were not for issues with his hands May KO ratio would be really high. You May not like Mayweather for what ever reason buy don’t demean the mans courage or incredible skill.Posted July 28, 2014 11:18 pm
Guys with only 12 ko on there record are still not a big test for Triple G more like tune up fights. We don’t really know how Triple G responds when he gets hit by a guy who can punch as hard as he can. What I really want to see is Triple G vs Canelo. Funny how ODH name droped quillan but did not mention Canelo. It would a great fight and a true test for both fighters. Although I will put my Money on Triple G KO Canelo or make quit on his stool.Posted July 28, 2014 11:13 pm
There is no one at 160 for GGG, Chavez thats about it, he needs to drop down and face Cotto, Canelo or add a few and face Ward either way he is in th safe zone right now fighting these cab drivers, GGG resume sucks ass so to say he is a monster is a understatementPosted July 28, 2014 11:08 pm
How do you say he is unproven after every fight. i have seen people talk so highly of just about everyone he has beat. he is 30-0 with 27 ko’s that is one acomplishment. when you see a monster you know it aka GGG. Of course there is better opposition but will they get in the ring with him. every fighter he fought are bums? please many were titalist or even belt holders hee only wants the best but they run from him punch for punch they are two steps under him thats why he can only kill fighters that get in front of him. stop hating on him before he can live the hype.Posted July 28, 2014 10:59 pm
I’m sorry. Once he gets warmed up.Posted July 28, 2014 10:58 pm
My point papo. Thanks. Tark your made my point a little. And all do respect, hagler is not overrated. He was the truth. Can fight conventional, or south paw. Can hurt you with either hand. And take a punch. GGG is good.I feel he could beat them all besides ward. Like I said, power can change a fighters style. Look at deonte Wilder. Who has he fought? He’s good, but I’m not going to give him 100% credit just yet. I would like to see GGG and Chavez. Chavez can take them shots. He’s dangerous once he gets earned up. But I put GGG on top because he’s more active right now. Nobody is really out there for him.Posted July 28, 2014 10:55 pm
GGG hits hard but it takes more than that, he is slow and a plotter he likes to get you on the ropes and unload But a more experienced boxer who is mobile will give him all kinds of problems, there is nothing special about GGG other than he has KO power, but he hasnt fought anyone either not the top guys who would test him. The jury is still out on GGGPosted July 28, 2014 10:43 pm
Oh I know Macklin didn’t land anything. He was scared to fight GGG. He looked like Spinks vs TysonPosted July 28, 2014 10:31 pm
WTF happened to Hidalgo-theknow-it-all??”
Well, mephaggot, I see you can still do no better than one line insults. Too bad you don’t know anything about boxing, otherwise you’d have something worthwhile to contribute to these boards.Posted July 28, 2014 10:30 pm
I understand why people feel GG is for real, and he may be, but until he fights someone who can hit him back there will be some doubters.
We can forget about other fighters that were supposedly great until they began to face better opposition. Camacho Jr. comes to mind as he felt apart after his fight against Leija. Also Prince Named after facing Barrera and many other fighters. And even Tyson after facing Holyfield.Posted July 28, 2014 10:22 pm
brza da originator
not my style posting under other peoples names . I believe in facts n rational boxing thinking . The truth will set u freePosted July 28, 2014 10:20 pm
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@Tark that was an imposter my man check out the last name . Gennady is the truthPosted July 28, 2014 10:17 pm
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@mark r u english ? U did hear what froch said about gennady right ?.Posted July 28, 2014 10:14 pm
GGG would run from Floyd until GGG’s untested chin tastes Floyd’s incredible power and then his back hits the canvas. This is why when Floyd’s name comes up, Golovkin quickly changes the subject and has admitted he would never, ever fight Floyd. Floyd has been trying to get a fight with GGG and says so in every interview, but continues to duck Floyd. Floyd said he would fight GGG at 154 in 2015 but GGG’s made the excuse that GGG has a hard time cutting weight.Posted July 28, 2014 10:13 pm
Ward would box his ears off in a UD, froch takes him to deep water. He’d beat any other SMW as the division is poor. Cotto in New York is the money fight.Posted July 28, 2014 10:09 pm
GGG, please clear out the MW division first (2-3 fights max) then move up to SMW. Andre Ward will have retired by then, he’s semi retired now anyway!Posted July 28, 2014 10:06 pm
He really hasn’t fought anybody yet. But I’d still not bet against him against ANYBODY. Ward included.Posted July 28, 2014 10:05 pm
Froch knocks GGG out, GGG hasn’t been in with anyone who comes throwing for 12rnds.Posted July 28, 2014 10:04 pm
PEEJ.., “Saying Macklin only landed 1 jab is dumb.”
Check the punch stats… Golovkin is very difficult to hit with jabs… He’s a great defender… 345-5 as an amateur, much higher winning ratio than Floyd.
When have you ever seen GGG rocked and staggered like Floyd was vs old man Mosley? That never happened to GGG… and Zab Judah, knocked Floyd down and was beating him for 3 rounds.Posted July 28, 2014 9:48 pm
Geale would be annihilated by Ward TOO. IN FACT it would be a laughable announcement of a Fight.Posted July 28, 2014 9:48 pm
I’m not saying Floyd would beat GGG but saying Macklin only landed 1 jab is dumb. Who cares what he landed. He fights nothing like Floyd and was scared to fight GGG. Not sure where all this GGG is a great boxer. He has yet to show that. He showed he can stalk and destroy fighters. But he was getting hit with plenty of punches from Geale. And Alexander did a lot of grappling against Maidana. Plus he wasn’t wit Garcia at that time. Maidana has improved tremendously since being with Garcia and if he were to rematch Alexander I think he would win by KOPosted July 28, 2014 9:42 pm
brza da says.., “GGG needs to tell his promoter to get chavez, ward, abraham, pascal, froch, dirrell or even bute or even groves.”
GROVES??? … That would go over like a lead balloon… Groves is so wide open the suck face would be a one round job for 3G.. Groves never beat anybody.. GGG tired to fight Chavez but the pot head punked out and Geale stepped up — knowing that GGG had been training to fight a Super Middleweight and had to switch gears to fight a middleweight… Nice try.
You can’t go up and down… Better Golovkin clean out the middleweight division before flattening Ward… He called out Quillin and Cotto Saturday night… and calls out the other World Champions after EVERY fight.Posted July 28, 2014 9:41 pm
Dave, Kellerman also said Froch was asked how he would fight him and that was his quotePosted July 28, 2014 9:36 pm
Folks I have found the culprit posting my name…….BRZA DA ORIGINATOR , the little boy posting on a mans site….. lmfaoPosted July 28, 2014 9:34 pm
brza da… Floyd is NOT going to fight GGG to test your analysis. He’d get killed.
Golovkin has the best jab in the business, and Floyd ate jabs from the super short Cotto… Floyd needed King Sized Q-Tips dipped into coagulants and shoved up his nose holes — to stem the bleeding…
In contrast, GGG is very difficult to hit with jabs… Matt Macklin got his jab on Sergio Martinez with ease, but landed only 1 of 25 thrown at Golovkin.
Marcos Maidana had a more difficult time hitting Devon Alexander than he did Floyd… Marcos landed more punches on Floyd than he could Alexander… and he got better scores from the judges too.
Floyd never fought an outstanding prime boxer like Golovkin in his whole life.
Maidana even lost to punks like Amir Khan… so he couldn’t be TOO good.Posted July 28, 2014 9:26 pm
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I just wish gennady would stop fighting these bums and step up and fight the elite guys, I really think he knows that he needs to tell his promoter to get chavez, ward, abraham, pascal, froch, dirrell or even bute or even groves . He really needs to test himself or loss support….my supportPosted July 28, 2014 9:21 pm
Klitschko is the best in his division as well…
Unbeaten for over 10 years, WK took an udefeated 10 year pro in Alexander Povetkin, who was an Olympic Gold Medal winner who never was knocked down before as an amateur OR professional boxer … and knocked him down 4 times while winning every round.
Golovkin’s record as an amateur is better than Wladimir’s except he’s not an Olympic Gold Medal winner… But he’s a more complete boxer than Wladimir because he fights inside, outside, upside and downside … and he slips and ducks punches with much greater ease because he’s had more than twice as many amateur fights as Wlad.
Golovkin lands more jabs than any other boxer, according to compubox, and he rips your ribs out and flattens you for 10 with body shots.Posted July 28, 2014 9:12 pm
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I think floyd is more than capable of beating golovkin at 160 never mind 154! It would be another shutout like canelo, how is gennady going to land on him????? Floyd would just land at will for a UD, though ggg has good movement floyd would make him look rather silly.Posted July 28, 2014 9:11 pm
No boxtra Marquez didn’t he was floored and only got a decision to a guy rios stopped. Floyd beats lesser fighters like guerro but doesn’t destroy them like GGG does. GGG will now be pound for pound top 25. Yeh babyPosted July 28, 2014 9:08 pm
Yup Anonymous is definitely a racist lol.Posted July 28, 2014 9:06 pm
Golovkin is GOOD but he’s no monster. Most ELITE Fighters destroy #0 P4P NON Championship competition. Floyd rarely even Fights them. Marquez even looked like a monster vs his last #0 P4P NON Championship opponent. He damn near knocked him out of the Ring. …I WILL say that he is more impressive vs that level of competition than Klitschko. That’s why I now rate him over Wlad.Posted July 28, 2014 8:54 pm
GGG’s camp has already said they are not ready for Ward. I don’t think they are scared, there just smart. Let him get more experience first. Frotch gets smashed by GGG to me. Never been impressed with him.Posted July 28, 2014 8:45 pm
GGG is absolutely unproven. This is what they talk about after all his fights. He looks great vs. Mediocre comp. Amazing how biast some of these blogs are towards GGG. I think the guy can beat anyone from 155 to 168 except Ward but he is still unproven. Doesn’t make sense to anoint a guy with a résumé as weak as his. Everyone on the P4P list has a better résumé than GGG including Rigondeax and he’s only had 14 fights.Posted July 28, 2014 8:43 pm
GGG has said he’ll fight anyone from 154-168…except when it comes to Andre Ward!Posted July 28, 2014 8:37 pm
Cotto isnt going no where near GGG!Posted July 28, 2014 8:32 pm
A 345-5 record and winning World Championships against the top amateurs in the world in nothing to sneeze at…
Mugabi or Hagler couldn’t do that.
PLUS… Besides beating the fuk out of Sugar Ray Leonard, Norris knocked John “The Beast” Mugabi out in the 1st round.
Some terror that Mugabi was… Anytime he fought a good fighter he got knocked stiff.Posted July 28, 2014 8:14 pm
TARK, that was GREAT boxing IQ.Posted July 28, 2014 8:13 pm
Who cares about the difference in amateur fights.Posted July 28, 2014 8:12 pm
you idiots comparing g to mugabi, would somebody tell them how many amateur fights g had, and how many mugabi had……Posted July 28, 2014 8:08 pm
powerhands says.., ” Nobody knew of the beast before Hagler gave him his first lost. Mugabi I believe was 26-0-26 kos.”
Mugabi was a wild swinger who got hit with everything. Mugabi ducked Julian Jackson and Mike McCallum who would have smashed him out in a couple rounds. Hagler cherry-picked Mugabi because he wanted an easy win.
Then Hagler fought a REAL boxer, Sugar Ray Leonard… Leonard had never fought as a middleweight before and hadn’t had ANY fights in three (3) years… But he managed to box the piss out of the overrated Hagler…
Leonard then ducked the top ranked Michael Nunn, Mike McCallum, and Julian Jackson… The ducking cost Leonard his Middleweight Championship but he didn’t care. He knew they would beat the shlt out of him..
Leonard fought the washed out China-chins and scrubs he wanted to fight — until he decided to fight speedy Terry Norris. Norris was WAY too fast and skilled for Leonard… Norris beat the living life out of Ray — sending him into retirement for another six (6) years — before Ray ventured forth to get knocked out by Macho Man.Posted July 28, 2014 8:07 pm
Beats everyone from 54-60 and there is only 1 challenge for him at 168 the rest die. Just like froch said he has no interest in fighting him and for good reasonPosted July 28, 2014 7:59 pm
The Mad Scientist
Hecdog, Manny Pacquiao’s reign of terror was expose and reduced to rubble by the great JMM..you need to go see the Pacman’s specialist and get cat scan yourself since you’re obviously still suffering from the trauma ..Lol!Posted July 28, 2014 7:38 pm
Cotto, Canelo or Ward at 168 would give GGG the business he is unproven…Posted July 28, 2014 7:22 pm
Look what happened after a known fighter got a hold of him. Marvelous Marvin hagler. No body really knew of the beast before Hagler gave him his first ko lost. Mugabi I believe was 26-0-26 kos.Posted July 28, 2014 7:17 pm
“The power that this man carries is almost unimaginable.” Come on really? Yeah…it’s getting a bit thick. I mean I like GGG too, he’s got loads of potential but lets let him earn greatness before we give it too him for meager accomplishments. I think he is capable of being all that they are saying and yes he does have KO power (mostly created by precise punching and general boxing expertise)…but stop over blowing it. “The Boxing Monster”? …just stop.Posted July 28, 2014 7:09 pm
Largo is a professional knocker. All he’s good at.Posted July 28, 2014 6:51 pm
BTW “OK,” which apparently you are not–Geale has lost only two fights in his professional career. The only bum around here is YOU.Posted July 28, 2014 6:42 pm
“Geale is a bum GGG already beat him once before…”
As a pro GGG has fought Geale only one time.Posted July 28, 2014 6:41 pm
Remember mugabi reminds me of gggPosted July 28, 2014 6:34 pm
GGG V Froch
“Froch said more than once he wants NO part of GGG… They even discussed that on the GGG-Geale telecast..” They discussed it on a telecast, so no direct quote from Froch then, just some people saying he said something and misquoting him.Posted July 28, 2014 6:23 pm
GGG V Froch, “When did he say that, where did he say it, or is it someone said he said it.”
Froch said more than once he wants NO part of GGG… They even discussed that on the GGG-Geale telecast..
Orama says.., “I would immediately (yesterday) chase Sam Soliman (IBF champion) for a unification fight before 2014 ends.”
Soliman is so far below Golovkin that fight does nothing for him.. His best bet is Quillin because his promoter DLH already called 3G out for the publicity it would generate.. Call his bluff immediately.. That win would bring Golovkin some prestige and put pressure on Cotto… GGG will be screwed on the money — but the important thing is to line Quillin and Cotto up and get those scalps.
Then he can move on to Ward.Posted July 28, 2014 6:18 pm
Geale is a bum GGG already beat him once before so this shouldn’t be a surprise. GGG needs to fight real fighters not these bar patrons and cab drivers. People sign off on these guys before they earned it. He is too big for Floyd so these retards who think Floyd is avoiding him I guess he should fight Wald Kilt. as well. Floyd is too small for GGG Floyd cannot even make 154. And again GGG hast fought one good fighter his resume sucks assPosted July 28, 2014 6:13 pm
And as you see one poster who always got his name in his mouth takes offense with a slur. Which basically means he has sugar in his tank and the reason he has no name.Posted July 28, 2014 6:06 pm
Actually Dave Froch was asked how would you fight GGG. He said he would swerve out the way of his punches. Not that he wouldn’t fight himPosted July 28, 2014 6:04 pm
GGG V Froch
When did he say that, where did he say it, or is it someone said he said it.Posted July 28, 2014 6:04 pm
GGG hasnt fought anyone worth talking about. He is 160 and its not too many good fighters in his class. Ward would beat his ass so would Canelo or Cotto. GGG is unproven its easy to look good beating up cab drivers. GGG hits hard but he is slow a plotter who beats you up on the ropes thought but can easily be out boxed and out worked he hasnt fought anyone worth talking about . Now Manny is washed up he was KTFO by a bum ass Marquez who is old as hell. Hecodg is a ass clown with no boxing knowledge get off Mannys nutts,Posted July 28, 2014 6:03 pm
Funny but Floyd haters can’t seem to keep his name out their mouths. That’s funny
^haha right….& what about Manny? haha crickets. he’s fighting another 140lb guy, that’s right.Posted July 28, 2014 6:01 pm
Funny but Floyd haters can’t seem to keep his name out their mouths. That’s funnyPosted July 28, 2014 5:59 pm
GGG V Froch
That is a fight that could happen, Froch is not the type to avoid any fighter.Posted July 28, 2014 5:55 pm
Floyd and Cotto please run run runPosted July 28, 2014 5:29 pm
iF you type Alhaymon1234 ‘s name it bans youPosted July 28, 2014 5:18 pm