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hibdeebibdee

“Tark, Lennox Lewis IS a BETTER and MORE accomplished fighter than Vitali who was a fractional beltlholder building a name off of a parade of weak foes…”

Many of Vitali’s foes were also significantly smaller than him–often an unfair matchup–in Vitali’s favor! Wlad, on the other hand, has consistently fought guys more his own size.

Posted July 26, 2014 10:20 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, Lennox Lewis IS a BETTER and MORE accomplished fighter than Vitali who was a fractional beltlholder building a name off of a parade of weak foes… His resume is a “whos who” of nobodies and never were’s….. Winning 4 rounds of a 6 round contest and then being stopped due to EXTREME damage inflicted by your opponent does not brand you the better fighter where I come from…

Posted July 25, 2014 9:38 am 


Dangermouse

TARK….you love to make an excuse for a fighter you are pumping up….

for example:

1. Hopkins took a weird supplement from Mackie Shilstone so wasn`t right for Calzaghe
2. Those 2lbs had Canelo looking parched so OF COURSE Mayweather own him
3. Blah blah didn`t get good sparring in camp
4. SO and so was overweight for that fight etc etc ect.

Do you not put any credence in the fact Lewis was busy filming a movie with Wlad until a couple of weeks before the Rahman fight, didn`t train properly, and especially didn`t acclimatise properly to the altitude?

I mean, we had the rematch where you could see what a prepared and motivated Lewis did. It was chalk and cheese to what happened the first time

Posted July 25, 2014 3:58 am 


Hecdog

Poor Pactards my friend, “What profiteth a man if he gains the whole world and loses his soul” Floyd Mayweather will never receive the respect and love that Manny Pacquiao receives from his fans. Mayweather has tarnished himself to no end, and his own peers have lost all respect for him. His criminal record of 12 years , his avoiding the best guys and the careful selection of his opponents are fully noted by all fans. He is in the top 50 fighters of all time, but there are way too many fighters better than him that never ran away from challenges like Floyd did. The world knows that Floyd and his family admitted that they were afraid for Floyd’s safety if he fought Manny Pacquiao, and Floyd said this himself. It’s on tape, crystal clear. And that’s all anyone in boxing needs to know. Imagine a fighter being scared of another fighter. Manny Pacquiao feared no one and fought the best. And by the way, he was selected by the top boxing writers as the Boxer of The Decade, which also includes Floyd Mayweather. Plus, Manny is the only 8 division boxing champion in history. How many does Floyd have? It’s simple, Manny is the best ever, and as far as money is concerned, you have to get your facts straight. Manny Pacquiao is worth millions and millions of $$$. He is set for life, and any time he fights, he just makes more. And outside of boxing Manny dwarfs Floyd Mayweather in regards to income. Sorry my friend, Manny is th ebest evr, and he has fans all around the world that love him and recognize him as the Peoples Champion. And Floyd, well, I sure hope he doesn’t lose to Maidana again like he did the first time. Manny will dominate a fight that the world is talking about day and night. Floyd is desperately trying to make interest for his fight, and he’s failing badly. No one cares about him anymore. he needs to retire. Trust me when i say this. Manny Pacquiao beats Floyd Mayweather in the squared circle, in the boxing public’s eyes and in the eyes of the entire world. Manny is the best!

Posted July 25, 2014 1:34 am 


poor pacturds

Hecdog are you a shrink because if so you need to help yourself, Floyd is empty inside? Who the hell cares he fills stadiums thats all the people care about and Manny facing Algieri? Who the hell is he another bum, Most anticipated fight you cant be serious no one even responds to your posts because no one shares your views it obvious Manny tickles your fancy maybe your gay thats ok. But reality is Manny is nothing without PEDS and not his ppvs have gone in the toilet and he has KTFO by a 40 year old Marquez you tards talk all this crap about Floyd but there are plenty of other good fighters out there that you never mention and Manny will never fight Floyd cannot save his career Manny is broke as of Today

Posted July 24, 2014 8:21 pm 


Anonymous

total bullshi#.

Posted July 24, 2014 7:08 pm 


TARK

Sredmond keeps pretending Lewis was a better boxer than Vitali Klitschko.

Lennox Lewis was a great Heavyweight Champion, maybe the next greatest behind the Klitschko Bros.

However…

Lewis is lucky he didn’t come up in this era – because David Haye is much faster and punches much harder than Hasim Rahman did – a man who knocked Lewis out with a single punch… Rahman is over a year younger than Vitali, and couldn’t do a damned thing in Vitali’s era – but in Lewis’s era he was heavyweight champion twice.

Rahman smashed Lewis out to take his title in Lewis’s era…but couldn’t even get past 39-year-old Oleg Maskaev in the Klitschko era.. Rahman had no shot at all of even taking a 2nd tier title from Alexander Povetkin many years after Wladimir knocked him out.

Oh! Lewis got a rematch vs Rahman??? How fortunate… Not everybody gets one.

But Lewis lacked the speed and finesse to outbox Vitali, who was winning on ALL SCORECARDS at the end of their fight. Lewis was out-scored by a guy who was fighting with the handicap of a badly slashed eye, that was raked open by the palm of Lewis’s right hand.. So the fight should have gone to the scorecards..

The decision to award Lewis the fight on cuts was just as unjust as Lewis’s “draw” with Holyfield … Boxing is very corrupt… That’s a hard fact.

If Lewis came up today he’d have a much harder time of it..

Dealing with the height, speed, and range of Tyson Fury would not have been easy for LL’s somewhat ponderous style.

Dealing with the height, range, and right hand punching power of Deontay Wilder might have bought Lewis his 3rd one-punch KO defeat… Lewis’s other 2 losses came courtesy of right hand smash-outs to my recollection.

It’s entirely possible that Lewis wouldn’t get a title shot with the contenders who are around today. There was nobody of Lewis’s size and strength to match him in his era … and when the Bros came up, Lewis upped and retired forthwith.

Posted July 24, 2014 5:11 pm 


Hecdog

Gentlemen, Manny Pacquiao isn’t going anywhere. He sits on top of the mountain by himself. he’s gone through triumphs and tragedies, but he always gets himself right back up. The man is happy as can be. You guys see the news on him. He’s relevant to the world’s answers to problems in society. He’s not broke as many would want to believe. This man is set for life and is enjoying himself doing things he likes to do. The last post I put up is right on. It’s the truth. One fighter, Manny Pacquiao continues to astonish people with the variety of ventures he takes on. He’s a man that makes a difference in all of our lives. Manny Pacquiao is preparing to be part of the most anticipated fight of his career against Chris Algieri. I can just guarantee you that the entire world will have their eyes glued on the tv when this fight happens. This is just another young, unbeaten fighter that wants his chance at upsetting the greatest pure fighter of all time, which most boxing authorities agree with me on that specific point. 8 titles is unheard of. And as far as Floyd Mayweather goes, he’s empty. He tries to mask his true feelings, but he’s lost. He’s all about money, which makes him happy, but in the end, he has nothing. He is currently trying desperately to get attention for his fight with Maidana, but as you can clearly see, no one cares. He buys his girls, which are pretty, but they are after one thing. His friends (50 Cent) see through him and get away asap. His image and character are ruined. I feel sorry for the man because he is a good boxer and seems like he could be a nice guy, but fame, fortune, and bad human beings around him and he took the bait. Trust me when I say this. My advice for Floyd Mayweather would be to take some heart to heart copunseling form Manny Pacquiao himself, and I mean that. Manny will show him how to find happiness. Good human beings like Manny Pacquiao rub off on bad people like Floyd, and in turn, you will see Floyd make the miraculous change from bad to good as a caterpillar turns into a butterfly. Manny is the best. The Mad Scientist my friend, the answer to your question is yes, all the time. Poor Pactards my friend, he may be the richest, but also the loneliest and most empty.

Posted July 24, 2014 4:57 pm 


brza da originator

Sredmond the funny thing is I agree wit almost everything u said durin our debate . So on that note im out . Time to spread some truth on the Garcia thread n how his upcoming fight has serious negative ramifications for the sport we all love

Posted July 24, 2014 4:52 pm 


poor pacturds

Hecdog Floyd sliding down the hill? you must have him confused with Manny, Floyd is the highest paid boxer in history retard.

Posted July 24, 2014 3:56 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Hecdog I just have one question..? Dude do ever get laid

Posted July 24, 2014 3:54 pm 


Hecdog

Two boxers with different paths and different ending. One is reaching the stars and the other is falling to depths of emptiness:
Boxing fans and humanity should be so thankful to have such a wonderful person and role model to families and society. Manny Pacquiao is a man that always exemplifies respect, honor, care, humility, love, adoration, sincerity and innocence. His character is as pure as white snow. He always gives thanks to God first and never use any type of profanity. This is a man that won 8 division titles, which has never been done. This is a man that has been showered by so many skills and abilities and he uses them to conquer every thing he attempts to do like singing, acting, coaching, modeling, boxing and many other things. Manny Pacquiao is who all of us want our kids to be like. He shows true character and leads by example. His quality as a person far surpasses his greatness in the ring if that is even possible. A beautiful father, son, husband and brother all wrapped up in one. Manny Pacquiao will be sorely missed when he leaves the squared circle for good. This is a good man in a tough and corrupt sport, but inside Manny Pacquiao there is no corruption only love for his fellow human being. As fight fans, we will miss his spectacular style of fighting. His smile and his cobra like speed and reflexes. What we will miss most is the charm and genuine personality that over took all of us. A man that we could trust and like. Manny Pacquiao, a man that reached for the stars and grasped them.
Floyd Mayweather is a fighter that no one will miss when he retires. His tarnished unbeaten record really means nothing in the eyes of real boxing fans. He has made a mockery of himself and the sport of boxing. His image as a human is an absolute embarrassment. 12 years of crime, threatening his own children as well as the mother of them. Look up his criminal record and you will know what kind of individual he really is. This man is a coward that boasts, brags, makes his money and materials his God and says racist comments about people. And some say this is just a put on to play the villain role. Sorry people, this is the devil dressed up in sheep’s clothing. He is an awful person that uses his money to buy friends and treats women like garbage. Why anyone would cheer this guy on is beyond belief. This is not a role model for anyone to aspire to be like. He is what we tell our children not to be. Forget his boxing, Floyd Mayweather’s image is an atrocity that follows him everywhere, and he continues to ridicule himself by saying that he messed around with TI’s girl. Just when you think he can’t stoop any lower, he does. The public is tired of him. Boxing is his chosen career, and he does have skills, but his inability do treat people right has ruined him. His image will stick with him throughout his entire life. As a fighter, the only thing he will be remembered for is ducking the great Manny Pacquiao.
Manny Pacquiao reached for the stars and fought the best of his time. All fight fans agree on this. He chose to take risks to become great, and he did. Floyd Mayweather on the other hand avoided fighting his biggest threat, and in the public’s eyes, he lost. He lost respect, which is the most important and honorable thing a fighter can lose. Floyd Mayweather has been sliding down hill for years, and today he’s journey to the depth of emptiness has arrived.

Posted July 24, 2014 3:21 pm 


Hotdog

Hello again good buddies. To all floyd fans around the world, we are the followers of an extraordinary fighter / statesman / gentleman / careing / understanding person in boxing today, he has a talent second to none which will not be fully appreciated until he hangs up those famous gloves for good. This will be the day that boxing loses an icon, the shining light in boxing will have gone , never to return to the stage of boxing! Pacquiao has turned his back on his fans and jumped on the first banana boat to china and left his American fans stranded on the shore , America gave this guy everything he has and he treats it like dirt on the bottom of his shoe, arum has said he may never fight there again!! Owes millions and left like a thief in the night, I’m so happy that floyd treats his fans like royalty. Good day

Posted July 24, 2014 2:20 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

hotdog

Thermal underwear.
ohhhh, you must be hot down under!!! A bit sweaty I imagine? Do you wear braces to hold them up?? myself? I wear interlocking Y fronts….good day
Posted July 24, 2014 12:06 pm

^a fellow jockey indeed. yes, extra duck butta for ya mutha!

Posted July 24, 2014 1:10 pm 


SREDMOND

Braza, “Morality” is a somewhat individual construct.. Some religions consider “Doggy Style) to be a sin… these matters are VERY peripheral to his boxing career which is the TRUE purpose of the site.. Mayweather sits atop the sport NOT because of his selling himself as a “Man of God” or “Paragon of Virtue” he is first, foremost and always a BOXER… And thus ends the story

Posted July 24, 2014 12:56 pm 


brza da originator

Btw this all started wit me defending may to another poster .

Posted July 24, 2014 12:31 pm 


brza da originator

@sredmond maybe I overestimated ur intelligence so I guess I will have to explain it one more time . I defended Mays right to spend his money any way he wants . I said morally it might nt be the right thing to do but its perfectly legal . U then replied not by saying who cares what his morals are this is a boxing thread u instead tried to defend his morals . Obviously u do care about how he is percieved outside the ring because u did nt say who cares about his morals u said who is to say if he has good morals or not . True story folks

Posted July 24, 2014 12:27 pm 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao has been dominating the sport of boxing for the last decade without question. His fights are memorable, and will be looked upon in the history books as the most action packed fights ever. The fighting Filipino took the sporting world by storm when he came on the scene. As he prepares for what most boxing fans acknowledge is one of the biggest Mega Fight’s in boxing history, against unbeaten Chris Algieri, Manny Pacquiao seems as calm and collected as he’s always been. Manny’s popularity keeps flourishing and he continues to create a type of atmosphere that is created when Kings, Queens, Presidents and important dignitaries are present. Manny Pacquiao has become a larger than life figure. This is a man that is changing the social fabric of his world. He needed a platform to do this, and the boxing ring is exactly that. Manny Pacquiao is a true Super Star. He represents good, honest hardworking people inside and outside the ring with true respect, humility and honor. Watch him speak, and you will be enlightened with his peaceful, compassionate and humble personality. It’s hard to put the true warrior and wonderful human being together at times.

The recently released movie documentary “MANNY” has captured the silver screens attention. Movies have had an ongoing love affair with the sport of boxing. Rocky, When We Were Kings, Million Dollar Baby and the Raging Bull have been some outstanding movies. From all accounts, this documentary (MANNY) may receive a nomination for the best movie of the year. Early reviews are giving it a thumb up. This is a miraculous story of a child that became a man through the most difficult of times. A boxing champion that today is called the Peoples Champion. The tears shed by viewers could have filled the Atlantic Ocean. The trailer itself had me thinking of how fortunate and blessed I am. I wanted to reach out to someone and give them a helping hand. I believe this trailer and movie will lead most of you to do the same if you’re human. I highly suggest that all of you view this movie when the opportunity comes. I can tell you without any doubt that an addendum to this movie will be needed. Manny Pacquiao’s story is still being written, and the best is yet to come. Fans are truly blessed to have Manny Pacquiao as a leader in this world today. Trust me when I say Manny Pacquiao keeps letting us know that there is still good in this world. Manny is the best!

Posted July 24, 2014 12:21 pm 


hotdog

Thermal underwear.
ohhhh, you must be hot down under!!! A bit sweaty I imagine? Do you wear braces to hold them up?? myself? I wear interlocking Y fronts….good day

Posted July 24, 2014 12:06 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

hotdog! OMG LOL! Too funny bro. Thanks for that one.

Posted July 24, 2014 11:46 am 


Thurmal Underwear

hotdog

Folks… floyd is the most wonderful human being in the world , hes a macnificant mover both in the ring and on the dance floor as seen on dancing with the stars.hes adored by everyone he meets and that includes president obama, females love this guys good looks as well as his ripped body, my good freind and confidante dame lily white also admires him as he always gives his time freely , floyd helps the needy , the poor and and provides free hot meals on occasions.when floyd fights the world stops and the ppv, s go through the roof. Arum once said when he promoted floyd that he was the greatest fighter he had set eyes on. Folks just look at the cars this man drives, they are the best cars money can buy, not like the clapped out bangers that some boxers drive! Pacquiao drives a rust bucket! Floyd owns and runs his own record company, he owns mayweather promotions , and dont forget TMT, THERE IS NO STOPPING THIS GUY EITHER IN THE RING OR OUTSIDE THE RING. He is the real deal ladies and gentlemen, what you see is what you get, a masterful technician through and through.what other ring general would offer another boxer $40m just to share the ring with him? His generousity knows no bounds. Guys and gals and anyone reading this, enjoy this extraordinary boxer while he still fights , buy his ppv, s because you will never ever see another boxer in your puff as good as the great one and only floyd mayweather jnr.
Posted July 24, 2014 11:12 am

^LOL! Dude youse a dickhead! That’s HILARIOUS!

Posted July 24, 2014 11:45 am 


SREDMOND

HaHaHa Vitali LOST to Lewis at 37 when Lennox had accomplished WAY more in boxing than Vitali EVER did at 41 or 42 when he finally gave up and tried politics in a crumbling country… What was Lewis when he retired? Undisputed HW Champion! What was Vitali when he retired WBC Champ and #2 man at HW. How many HOFERS had Lewis defeated INCLUDING Klitschko??? 3-4, how many had Vitali defeated NONE! Who was Vitalis LAST opponent? the lowly Manuel Charr who is not even a World Class HW boxer… Who was Lewis last opponent? Vitali Klitschko future HOFER and #2 HW of the post Lewis era with 60 stitches embedded in his face and Lewis foot BURIED in his AZZZZZZ!!! What was Vitalis BEST win? Sam Peter, Lewis? Holyfield, Tyson, Klitschko…. Vitali is a FORGOTTEN man and much of his luster comes from his brothers GREATER accomplishments whereas Lewis was the STANDALONE Undisputed HW Champion having defeated ALL he faced at least once…No comparison one man is an ATG (Lewis) the other is a HOFER but likely not even Top 15 at the weight with that dreadful resume that seeks to validate itself based on winning 4 rounds off Lennox Lewis then 2 hours of cosmetic surgery to repair the post TKO damage… Yesssssssssssss!!!! I push rhymes like weight!

Posted July 24, 2014 11:26 am 


$Joker

Hey Real dumb talk Squared,

Vitali lost!!!! Now accept it like a man and live with it, girl.

Posted July 24, 2014 11:16 am 


hotdog

Folks… floyd is the most wonderful human being in the world , hes a macnificant mover both in the ring and on the dance floor as seen on dancing with the stars.hes adored by everyone he meets and that includes president obama, females love this guys good looks as well as his ripped body, my good freind and confidante dame lily white also admires him as he always gives his time freely , floyd helps the needy , the poor and and provides free hot meals on occasions.when floyd fights the world stops and the ppv, s go through the roof. Arum once said when he promoted floyd that he was the greatest fighter he had set eyes on. Folks just look at the cars this man drives, they are the best cars money can buy, not like the clapped out bangers that some boxers drive! Pacquiao drives a rust bucket! Floyd owns and runs his own record company, he owns mayweather promotions , and dont forget TMT, THERE IS NO STOPPING THIS GUY EITHER IN THE RING OR OUTSIDE THE RING. He is the real deal ladies and gentlemen, what you see is what you get, a masterful technician through and through.what other ring general would offer another boxer $40m just to share the ring with him? His generousity knows no bounds. Guys and gals and anyone reading this, enjoy this extraordinary boxer while he still fights , buy his ppv, s because you will never ever see another boxer in your puff as good as the great one and only floyd mayweather jnr.

Posted July 24, 2014 11:12 am 


LOL

herman clit got beat by a fat 37 year old Reggae man. End of.

Posted July 24, 2014 10:15 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Vitali RETIRED Lewis the cowardly lion at just 37 years old. FACT: Then Lewis refused the rematch and tried his best to get a rematch vs. little Mike Tyson instead. Then the WBC said, ” give VK the rematch or we’ll strip your title/belt.” That’s when LL decided to retire because he was scared senseless of VK.

VK sent LL into exile, down to his hideout in Jamaica with his head down and tail between his legs.

FACT: VK took that fight on just 2-3 weeks notice and still outboxed Lewis (nearly knocking him out) and retired him forever. That’s what’s called GREATNESS!

Posted July 24, 2014 9:49 am 


SREDMOND

To ALL the “Girly Men” on this thread that seem to think they have the God Given right to dictate how Floyd Mayweather spends his money, GET YOUR OWN RICHES and disperse them how you wish to! I don’t really think a bunch of dikless internet posters should be telling a multimillionaire athlete how to spend HIS money… I could care less about Mayweather helping kids, dogs, ravens, buzzards or Warlocks… At the end of the day he is a boxer, a sport rooted in violence and aggression he entertains and thus does the job that he is paid for… All interactions with the Floyd Mayweather brand are voluntary! If you don’t like DON’T watch… I respect Wlad as a longstanding Champion but if I had to pay $15 to see him on PPV it would NOT happen because his fights largely don’t entertain and his persona is pleasant but NOT bigger than life…We all make our OWN choices, you F@G’s watching Showtime All ACCESS and getting stressed because the guy has 25 luxury cars need to turn the channel and watch one of these televangelists while eating “Tofu”

Posted July 24, 2014 9:24 am 


SREDMOND

Vitali NEVER “retired Lewis” that HOLLOW moral victory that his (Klitschkos) heartbroken fans try to promote is pretty pathetic… Lewis retired as the Undisputed HW Champion of the World a distinction that Vitali NEVER had and NEVER will…He went out on top which is the rarest of all things in boxing and should be applauded instead of boxing until old age eroded his skills and made him fight on FAR beyond his best….Klits is gone and largely forgotten already because he was the #2 man during his era…

Posted July 24, 2014 9:13 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, if God wanted Lomanchenko to win, he would have had his hand raised at the end of the night.. Instead Salido beat him in a rough veteran performance and his record accurately reflects that misstep…Its 12 years post Lewis vs Klits and you and the Bear still have failed to change history to reflect your preferences 12 years from now when Lara and Loma are out of the sport, both will reflect losses from Canelo and Salido respectively… I pity you

Posted July 24, 2014 9:09 am 


loomis

Hibdeebibdee….floyd is the champion , if maidana thought floyd was being so unreasonable , then why did garcia not instruct him to pull out???. To hear you , you, d think floyd was the only fighter that had issues with gloves. I remember lennox lewis and michael grant had issues!! Chavez jnr and andy lee had issues relating to gloves!! The fsct is …. as the champion , he, s the one that customarily makes the call on which gloves to use, your making out that floyd as champion should just sit back and do whatever maidana wants , It don, t work like that….ask pacquiao ask delahoya, floyd gave oscar every demand he ask for in their fight, here, s whats happened…..floyd agrees with the standard 8oz make of gloves maidana normally wears,, in this instance , the gloves maidana wanted to use cannot be bought just off the shelf !!maidana had gloves especially made with his countries colours and floyd noticed the padding is thinner,, he even stated that he could feel his knuckles protruding through them.
should floyd just say….marcos do you want 10mill instead of 5mill , ok……marcos do yo wanna wear bag mitts , ok…..marcos do you want me to wear leaded boots , ok, hibdeebibdee don, t make a mountain out of a mole hill….enjoy pacquiao v algieri. Lmfao

Posted July 24, 2014 7:40 am 


TARK

Sredmond.., You can Claim Loma lost to Salido all day long.. He didn’t.. God knows he didn’t.. Ditto many other fights.

Injustice doesn’t bother me because it’s temporary.. This is Boxing and Boxing is corrupt.. So YOU can go kill yourself you stupid fool.. Do the world a favor and make my day.

Lara is the 154-pound World Champion.. Rigondeaux is the 122-pound Campion.. Lomachenko is the 126-pound Champion.. Vitali was the Heavyweight Champion for 10 years and he RETIRED Lennox Lewis, who never fought again — although he insisted he would.

Lewis tried to do a 2nd fight with Tyson and he was told he’d be stripped if he didn’t fight Klitschko.. Vitali retired Lewis and took his title..

And Lomachenko has Salido’s 126-pound Championship.. The Lomachenko fight is what took the title from Salido — and Loma was essentially the defending World Champion when he beat Gary Russell.

Just like Erislandy Lara is the World Super Welterweight Champion.. Lara fought the 2nd best 154-pounder a championship distance fight … and he still has his World Championship Belt.

The ultimate curve of the Universe tends towards justice.

Posted July 24, 2014 1:31 am 


poor pacturds

People are making a big issue over the gloves actually the man with the gold rules. Oscar use to dictate everything even the size of the ring and the gloves. Its common the champion is like the pre-miadana sometimes big deal if you want the fight you accept his terms and stop complaining. Floyd likes certain things drug testing gloves ect. And why not these Latino fighters are some dirty SOBs Margecheato had plaster in his gloves if Floyd fought him back in the days he would have been no longer undefeated or maybe even killed. He almost killed Cotto with that sht.

Posted July 23, 2014 9:50 pm 


Fraud May

hibdeebibdee – Good post. Spot on.

Posted July 23, 2014 8:45 pm 


hibdeebibdee

Regarding the glove issue:

WBC rules for championship bouts state, “The gloves for the fight will be of 8 ounces from strawweight up to the welterweight and of 10 ounces from superwelter to heavyweight” and that the “gloves will be provided by the promoter unless otherwise stated in the conract.”

WBA rules are mostly the same as the WBC’s but state that if the bout contract does not specify the brand of gloves to be used, the “Local Commission” will specify the brand.
So, if Maidana’s gloves weigh 8 oz. Floyd doesn’t have any legitimate complaint.

Really Floyd had no legit complaint about Maidana’s choice of gloves in their first fight because the contract was already signed by both parties. Mayweather started complaining and Ellerbe threatened “no fight” AFTER they found out what gloves Maidana was going to wear. Bear in mind that Miguel Miguel Cotto wore the same gloves when he fought Mayweather.

Bottom line is that Floyd is looking for every advantage he can get going into a fight: Cheating on his weight, ridiculous catchweight requirements, and then special glove requirements even though the gloves Marcos wanted to use were deemed okay by the NSAC and every other entity involved with the fight–except Mayweather.

Really, Floyd doesn’t have a legit complaint except that he might get hurt.

Posted July 23, 2014 7:46 pm 


hibdeebibdee

Regarding Mayweather’s problem with Maidana’s gloves:

WBC rules for championship bouts state, “The gloves for the fight will be of 8 ounces from strawweight up to the welterweight and of 10 ounces from superwelter to heavyweight” and that the “gloves will be provided by the promoter unless otherwise stated in the conract.”

WBA rules are mostly the same as the WBC’s but state that if the bout contract does not specify the brand of gloves to be used, the “Local Commission” will specify the brand.
So, if Maidana’s gloves weigh 8 oz. Floyd doesn’t have any legitimate complaint.

Really Floyd had no legit complaint about Maidana’s choice of gloves in their first fight because the contract was already signed by both parties. Mayweather started complaining and Ellerbe threatened “no fight” AFTER they found out what gloves Maidana was going to wear. Bear in mind that Miguel Miguel Cotto wore the same gloves when he fought Mayweather.

Bottom line is that Floyd is looking for every advantage he can get going into a fight: Cheating on his weight, ridiculous catchweight requirements, and then special glove requirements even though the gloves Marcos wanted to use were deemed okay by the NSAC and every other entity involved with the fight–except Mayweather.

Really, Floyd doesn’t have a legit complaint except that he might get hurt.

Posted July 23, 2014 7:45 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Man Floyd should make it rain with Kleenex so all these
fc king crybabies can dry their tears. man y’all some b!tches. keep reaching for the 0!

Posted July 23, 2014 6:15 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

CJ

Love isn’t the only member of his stable who wears those gloves Mayweather is so dead against Maidana wearing. Ishe Smith and Ashley Theophane also wear them as well.

A: Great. They’re not fighting Floyd or they’d change their gloves.

They’re perfectly legal gloves which are approved by the commission, so yes it is a punk move by Mayweather and it does make him look cowardly if he won’t let Maidana wear them.

A: I’m sure Floyd cares like he usually does about what folks think.

He’s trying to handicap Maidana by not letting him wear them.

A: Maidana signed the contract. He’s a big boy.

Tell me which of Maidana’s other opponents refused to fight him if he wore that brand of legal gloves?

A: Which of his other opponents had all of boxing on their shoulders?

Devon Alexander beat Maidana easily while he was wearing that brand of glove, Mayweather’s too afraid to fight the Maidana Alexander made look like a total novice. Punk move

A: I guess Devon can be Floyd’s next opponent then. Devon fought Bradley and made a BS excuse out of a headbutt with no cut and ended the fight. Punk move. It’s a sport full of punks fyi.

Posted July 23, 2014 5:36 pm

Posted July 23, 2014 6:13 pm 


CJ

Love isn’t the only member of his stable who wears those gloves Mayweather is so dead against Maidana wearing. Ishe Smith and Ashley Theophane also wear them as well.

They’re perfectly legal gloves which are approved by the commission, so yes it is a punk move by Mayweather and it does make him look cowardly if he won’t let Maidana wear them.

He’s trying to handicap Maidana by not letting him wear them.

Tell me which of Maidana’s other opponents refused to fight him if he wore that brand of legal gloves?

Devon Alexander beat Maidana easily while he was wearing that brand of glove, Mayweather’s too afraid to fight the Maidana Alexander made look like a total novice. Punk move

Posted July 23, 2014 5:36 pm 


CJ

But that’s neither here nor there, Love is a PED cheater and so is Bey so yes it’s highly hypocritical of Mayweather as a self-proclaimed ambassador for cleansing the entire sport of boxing of PEDs to have a pair of convicted PED cheaters in his promotional stable.

Posted July 23, 2014 5:28 pm 


CJ

I’m aware what diuretics are most commonly used for. But they’re also commonly used as masking agents for steroids.

But even if Love only used them to help him get down to a weight he wouldn’t have been been able to make by natural and legal means they’re still performance enhancing.

Do you think Guillermo Jones would’ve been able to walk through all those Lebedev bombs if he wasn’t so heavy?

He looked gigantic in comparison to Lebedev and it’s highly doubtful he would’ve been able to make weight without his diuretics.

Posted July 23, 2014 5:25 pm 


brza da originator

Sredmond good post in reply to me but ur missing my point . My point is a lot of hardcore may n pac fans deem their hereos infallable . These people u included would have a lot more credibility if u called may out from time to time ( nobodies perfect it happens ) . The persona that May puts out is not that of a good guy but of an egotistical big mouth wit little r no scrupples who is extremely demeaning tp other boxers past ( squaring up to 53 yr old ray leonard in an airport ) n numerous times present. I can only go by what I see n what May himself puts out (maybe hes a great guy in his private life ). So unless u know him personally what evidence r u goin by that justifies ur defence of his morals . Btw I don t consider donating to a couple of rec centres in grand rapids doin a lot for his commuinity in relation to what hes worth . Great boxer can t we defend his skills n not his ills

Posted July 23, 2014 5:21 pm 


CJ

SREDMOND, I asked you all this and all you tell me in response is that diuretics are most commonly used to help athletes lose weight? SMH

Why don’t you tell me why diuretics aren’t PEDs?

How they’re not commonly used as masking agents for steroids?

Why Love and Bey are not PED cheaters?

Why it’s not hypocritical for FMJ to have convicted PED cheaters in his stable when he’s supposed to clean up the entire sport from PEDs so all fighters are competing on a even keel?

Why you have no standards or integrity?

Why FMJ is too afraid to fight a limited puncher while he’s wearing the exact same brand of gloves that he wore when Devon Alexander shut him out?

How not allowing an opponent to wear a perfectly legal pair of commission approved gloves is not a punk move?

Tell me how many of Maidana’s other opponents were too afraid to let him wear those gloves?

Why you defend FJM’s raving hypocrisy regarding PEDs, gloves, and catchweights and refuse to criticize it?

Posted July 23, 2014 5:15 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, you don’t accept ANY results that don’t favor your fighter.. Lomanchenko LOST and it was pretty clear that ship has SAILED… Vitali LOST and that ship has sailed you are standing in the street ALONE screaming at the top of your lungs that “They Won” “They Won” your CONSTANT revisions have become a running joke on the message board…. YOU and Bears are like children when you don’t get your way and refuse to accept reality as it stands… Loma LOST, Vitali LOST and Lara LOST… You permission is not required or of any import when discussing documented history… KILL YOURSELF

Posted July 23, 2014 4:16 pm 


TARK

Sredmond LIES.., “Tark, if Lomanchenko is gonna prove to be this unreal talent over time then he will be able to chalkup this loss to experience and move on with his career… But in your manic rush to put him and others on top of the sport you are doing a PR campaign to expunge the Salido loss from his record… Well as USUAL you are gonna be unsuccessful just the way you were trying to get Lewis DQed for skewering Klitschkos face with his right hand.”

Loma didn’t lose to Salido. He’ll just ignore that decision knowing he really won… Nobody expunges records, including Pacquiao-Bradley 1… However you frequently have corrupt judges who make winners out of losers and losers out of winners… And since illegal contact contributed to the Klitschko cuts — that fight rightfully goes to tech UD, so Vitali is the obvious winner regardless of what the record book says.

I do not accept BS results … and I’m not the only one.

People have been languishing in prison for 30 or more years who are innocent… Many will go to their graves without being exonerated… That doesn’t mean they’re guilty. It means a bunch of idiots either fukked up … or deliberately framed them … Same difference

I’m for truth and justice…

Posted July 23, 2014 4:01 pm 


PEEJ

Hecdog you are wrong on that. I know your a fan but you are completely wrong. If Pac was boxing his PPV numbers would be through the roof. That has yet to happen and now his PPV number are terrible.

Posted July 23, 2014 3:43 pm 


??

“Who dictates what is morally right hahaha . Why sred is there a grey area in morals where droppin 100000 grand in a strip club may be better than I dunno givin it to charity rofl” – oooh, you’re whining about strippers? get outta here. He gives back, and strippers get paid to take their clothes off. This is common. Nobody goes around talking about how morally wrong it is to go to strip clubs… lmfao. You’re just a loser

Posted July 23, 2014 3:20 pm 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao is boxing. He carries the sport wherever he goes. Fighting in China is the right move financially. This is a smart man that doesn’t have to fight in Las Vegas every single time like someone else I know. Manny Pacquiao is a world champion and travels the globe to give his fans what they want. Manny Pacquiao fans are the most loyal, considerate, respectful, honest, caring and loving people because we honor our boxer with the type of respect he show us. Manny’s fans gather together to follow him wherever he fights, and at times, our numbers resemble a swarm of locusts following our champion. You will see millions making their way. A Manny Pacquiao fight is more than just a fight. And as far as Manny Pacquiao and his finances look, he’s looking for an Island to purchase for his retirement. The man’s value in astronomical. Trust me when I say this. Manny Pacquiao is to boxing what the water is to fish. Manny is the best!

Posted July 23, 2014 3:20 pm 


??

brza da originator: Floyd does give back. And even if he didn’t, he’s an icon and a legend. There’s nothing morally wrong about having a beautiful staff…. no more than any other millionaire is wrong for having a woman on his staff of model groupies. You’re just jealous. Making stuff up to feel better about yourself.

Posted July 23, 2014 3:16 pm 


??

I don’t care what Floyd allegedly did outside the ring. As long as it’s not statutory rape or something like Carlos Molina, or murdering his family like the other Hispanic.

Posted July 23, 2014 3:14 pm 


poor pacturds

Manny is a wash at this point. And only his loyal ass tards cry for a fight with Floyd at this point. How does a man go from a fly weight climb 8 divisions and gain speed and power? There is not a trainer or training regimate in the world that can do this never in the history of the sport has any boxer done this. Manny was a average Joe at lightweight he moves up and becomes a wrecking ball? Something is foul about this then Manny refused drug testing for the biggest fight of his career made excuses and tried to dictate when he could be tested? And since the whole PED issue came up he is not the same fighter who was destroying junior middleweights. Manny is the biggest fraud in boxing now he fights in China where he can use all the PEDS he wants to his heart is content and he dont have to pay U.S. Taxes problem is he will remain broke and no big fights in his future.

Posted July 23, 2014 2:33 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“It`s a misrepresentation of the facts by Vivek to suggest there is no admission of guilt to anything.” – It’s irresponsible reporting, ironically what Vivek accuses Deadspin of when their report was based strictly on facts. Floyd was facing up to 36 years and his lawyers got him a sweetheart deal to serve months. Fact is the public record shows he’s guilty of assaulting not one but three women. Vivek is a notorious Floyd apologist.

Posted July 23, 2014 1:52 pm 


SREDMOND

The Term “Robbery” is WAYYYYY overused on these message boards… Pac Man vs Bradley I was a “Robbery” few people saw this as close so how Bradley WON was beyond intelligent comprehension… Lara vs Canelo was a styles clash, same with Algieri vs Provo… You had scenarios where depending on what the judges favored or gave weight to either result would have been understandable… Lara did NOT get “robbed” he wanted the judges in his business against a more popular fighter and he did not get the nod… Life goes on.

Posted July 23, 2014 11:39 am 


SREDMOND

No NOT really, had Lara defeated Canelo in CLEAR fashion I would have been fine with it… I don’t protest every decision like idiot Tark and Bears…If I am WRONG I am WRONG… Besides Mayweather defeated Canelo when he was an undefeated fighter riding high and he did it very clearly… Whereas Lara winning a squeaker would have been what it was…. Lara had a GREAT chance to make some noise but instead he choose to slide along the ropes and fight a technically sound but overly cautious fight…Lara is responsible for his own position in the pecking order now, he could have KOed of beat up Canelo then started clamoring for an FMJ shot… BUT he wanted to be safe and pray the judges went against the more popular boxer… BAD MOVE

Posted July 23, 2014 11:32 am 


7-20-4

SREDMOND you would’ve been crying robbery over Lara-Canelo if Canelo wasn’t a former Mayweather victim.

And lord knows at what db you would be screaming it if Mayweather had fought exactly the same fight as Lara did against Canelo.

You were desperate for Caleno to defeat Lara because it adds to Mayweather’s legacy. Mayweather is always the be-all-and-end-all with you. He is your entire universe. But under normal circumstances you would’ve have been pulling for the black guy to win again.

The other reason why you’re so thrilled Canelo won is because it removes Lara out of the mix as a Mayweather opponent.

Posted July 23, 2014 11:02 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, if Lomanchenko is gonna prove to be this unreal talent over time then he will be able to chalkup this loss to experience and move on with his career… But in your manic rush to put him and others on top of the sport you are doing a PR campaign to expunge the Salido loss from his record… Well as USUAL you are gonna be unsuccessful just the way you were trying to get Lewis DQed for skewering Klitschkos face with his right hand….

Posted July 23, 2014 9:57 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, Lomanchenko is 2-1 and what YOU are concerned about simply is NOT important because the man booked a loss and will NEVER be an undefeated fighter… We see this with you OVER and OVER again… Changing decisions you don’t like, blaming refs and, crying robbery everytime a close fight goes against the guy you favor…. You and Bears have 000000 credibility, had Canelo lost I would have easily accepted it and moved on… But the judges did not favor Lara’s approach and hence he is the LOSER and no rematch is forthcoming… I would rather see Canelo vs Cotto

Posted July 23, 2014 9:40 am 


SREDMOND

We don’t KNOW what Canelos true upside and saying “in 4 years Canelo would beat Floyd” is WEAK!! Mayweather is an aging fighter and Father Time tends to make even the best ripe for the taking… FMJ facing Canelo at 40 means what? PLENTY of young fighters have bashed older guys who were ready to get taken down because they are HUNGRY, STRONG and don’t have the mileage… Floyds an exception because despite his obscene earnings and years in the sport he trains and fights like a guy still starting out… Its a unique level of drive that puts him above the rest.

Posted July 23, 2014 9:31 am 


SREDMOND

Braza, I really DON’T believe that telling another grown man what to do with his money is A.) Manly or B.) your business…. Floyd can give strippers 100 million of his money if that moves his soul, bottomline is that he got punched in the face to earn that $$$$$$$ not me… Charity is for those who want to be charitable and Floyd has been very generous with residents of Michigan where he grew up.. But again in my book he is under no obligation to do anything except enjoy his OWN life…

Posted July 23, 2014 9:28 am 


Bamananamman

Wow there is still some dumb POS at ESB who thinks they can ban an IP address and delete posts rather than have one of the article they publish corrected so that it doesn`t make fallacious statements about the legal system of the country in which it is based

Posted July 23, 2014 5:09 am 


Fan

Great article Vivek !

Posted July 23, 2014 4:55 am 


TARK

A Wall Street Firm pays 6 billion dollars in federal fines for selling mortgage backed securities that helped crash the US economy.. If they’re not guilty as sin, they’re not going to pay the fines.

Any time you accept a plea deal you’re avoiding something much worse — by making it easier on the investigators and prosecutors by saving them a lot of time, money, and human resource hours — that would be spent putting you away for a much longer time, with much heavier fines.

Posted July 23, 2014 3:20 am 


Auzbox

And arum has three top 10 p4p fighters, so not sure how you think that’s not stars. What you call stars and the boxing world are clearly two different things but I’m not suprised. P4p top 10 is where the best are at :)

Posted July 23, 2014 2:55 am 


Bananananman

@hibedee…

so in the plea bargain he is pleading guilty to SOMETHING – in this case a misdemeanour battery.

It`s a misrepresentation of the facts by Vivek to suggest there is no admission of guilt to anything.

Though this isn`t suprising in an article where he criticising another website for posting clickbait for webhits when that is precisely what this and B N 2 4 do – as well as selling users browsing information.

Posted July 23, 2014 2:54 am 


Auzbox

Teflon when you call Marquez a bum it shows that you are a bum and this isn’t the sport for you. He is a hall of fame legend. Your the eastsideboxing boxing hall of fame wan*er. PAC could never have fought may in 09 he was contracted to arum. And before you say he could of just paid his promoter fee- no he couldn’t bob would never have allowed it.

Posted July 23, 2014 2:53 am 


teflon

Manny had his shot in 09 he should have taken it then he goes on to get KTFO by a bum ass Marquez since then his stock has taken a serious dive, only his loyal retards cry for his glory to return like he can somehow manage to beat Floyd or even broker a fight with him at this point. Arum has nothing no big names for Manny to generate large ppv numbers so at this point he needs Floyd to give him a handout. Manny is 70 million in the whole in back taxes he fights in China to avoid U.S. Taxes and drug testing what a joke Arum ruined is career.

Posted July 23, 2014 2:05 am 


brza da originator

@just curious if u read my first post I was defending floyds right to spend his money however he wants ( this is america ) against another poster
. I said it might not be morally right but its not illegal . Then one of his fanboys responded by sayin who am I to say whats morally right . True story . I just hate fanboys who defend a fighter no matter what so I picked his statement apart to prove a point . Mayweather is a boxing phenom .Enjoy this great sport my man

Posted July 23, 2014 12:23 am 


Just curious

brza da originator Floyd gives back to the community the media doesnt always show it but he give back and does alot for his hometown in Michigan.

Posted July 22, 2014 11:58 pm 


brza da originator

I was just using it as an example of mayweather fanboys defending his actions no matter what . This guy sred could nt just say yeah Im here to discuss boxing not defend his personal life . But no he says how do I know that giving sluts thousands of dollars to take there clothes off is morally wrong rofl . Btw Im after b*****g strippers in my time but I never gave them hoes a dime . Btw u say who cares what he spends his money on . I care I wud find it a lot easier to root for a guy ive been admirin since 96 n came up in similar circumstances (inner city neighbourhood) as me if he gave somethin back to his commuinity . Great boxer though

Posted July 22, 2014 11:13 pm 


hibdeebibdee

“It IS an admission of guilt. It is an admission of guilt to a lesser crime than the initial charge.”

Not exactly. A plea bargain is an agreement in a criminal case between the prosecutor and defendant in which the defendant agrees to plead guilty to a particular charge in return for some concession from the prosecutor.

When a defendant makes an Alford plea, he maintains his innocence but admits that the prosecution could prove he committed the crime (prove he is guilty).

Posted July 22, 2014 10:22 pm 


Auzbox

Tark vasyl loss was very close. Manny v Marquez 1 was not a draw one judge scored the first round 10-7 not 10-6. The second was either way. Third I thought Marquez won but to say he won the lot is pure idiocy or hating.

Posted July 22, 2014 9:51 pm 


Anonymous

@brza

STFU already, Who gives a SH#T what May weather does outside of boxing…..U FU&#NG CLOWN

Posted July 22, 2014 9:12 pm 


brza da originator

Who dictates what is morally right hahaha . Why sred is there a grey area in morals where droppin 100000 grand in a strip club may be better than I dunno givin it to charity rofl
. U r such a fanboy did nt I say he can do whatever he wants wit his money but no u wanna defend his morala too . I will defend floyds all time skills all day long but u guys r cheering a world famous multi millionaire athlete spending a normals joes yrs wages in a night gettin sluts to take there clothes off ( how sad is that a celeb like may payin cheap hoes to strip ) the same guy who professes himself as a leader in the black commuinity ( who he does nt do s**t for ) . R u livin ur life through floyd

Posted July 22, 2014 8:59 pm 


TARK

I felt that Juan Manuel Marquez beat Manny Pacquiao in all their fights.. However they were really close fights.. I accept the results of the judges.

Posted July 22, 2014 8:38 pm 


TARK

Auzbox.., I don’t give a damn what the record book states.. Blind robberies happen in this sport with regularity..

In 200 years Boxing may have much better judging and far less corruption.. Until such time as it does, I’m not going to accept everything that goes into the record book..

Now, if a fight is close and I disagree.. Fine.

If it’s a damned robbery I won’t.

Posted July 22, 2014 8:35 pm 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao lose to Algieri, come on. You’re talking about the greatest fighter of all time, the only 8 division boxing champion of all time, the most feared fighter on the face of the earth, the fighter that fought the best of his time and beat them all lose to a guy that all of a sudden grows an ego and begins to believe in his own false hype. Let me tell you my friends. Manny Pacquiao at the tender age of 35 is just now coming into his prime, and big mouth Algieri will take a beating like never before. I heard him say he wants Mayweather after he stops Pacquiao, which is disrespectful to the legendary Manny Pacquiao. He gets one win over a one dimensional tough guy and has the audacity to even think he will last past 5 rounds against Manny Pacquiao. Algieri is going to learn the hard way as they all have when stepping into a ring with the fighting pride of the Philippines. My only concern is that they have an ambulance and hospital near by. This time around when Algieri goes down, he’s not getting back up. trust me when I say this, Algieri should seriously back out before it’s too late. As I have always stated, no one, and I mean no one beats Manny Pacquaio on a one fight basis. The PPV numbers will reach the moon on this fight. The anticipation of seeing Manny Pacquiao make his historic walk into the ring is what we boxing fans all wait for. Manny is the best.

Posted July 22, 2014 8:34 pm 


EZ E

Floyd won’t fight ‘mandatories’ and the WBC/WBA won’t force him to. Look how long they’ve allowed Floyd to hold TWO titles (147/154) simultaneously WITHOUT facing a mantatory? Is anyone on this planet so naive that he/she doesn’t know why?

Posted July 22, 2014 8:27 pm 


Hecdog

Floyd my friend, the fact is that right now, Floyd Mayweather trembles at the mere mention of Manny Pacquiao. He’s too busy fighting TI and his wife while getting ready to fight a guy in Maidana that actually beat him up like a rag doll. And of course Floyd Mayweather wouldn’t dare fight outside of his home town where he consistently gets gift decisions (Castillo Maidana, De La Hoya). Floyd is a mess and will never measure up to the great Manny Pacquiao, the only 8 division boxing champion of all time. Hmm…How many titles does Floyd have? Not eight. Manny fought the best and destroyed them all. Floyd has avoided so many in his career that I stopped counting. The boxing world will always look at Manny Pacquiao as the better fighter, and that’s a fact.

Posted July 22, 2014 8:25 pm 


Anonymous

PACQUIAO WILL LOSE TO ALGIERI BY UNANIMOUS DECISION NO DISPUTES.

Posted July 22, 2014 7:14 pm 


Anonymous

Jus watched algieri vs provod…And now I’m very confident Algieri will give PAC a boxing lesson.

Posted July 22, 2014 7:02 pm 


Auzbox

Thurman is floyds mandotary for his WBA let’s see if floyd defends or drops it

Posted July 22, 2014 6:57 pm 


Auzbox

Tark you don’t run the sport his record states 1-1, the same as mannys says 5 losses. History books will state 1-1. Thurmal knickers how is he supposed to fight them if arum isn’t working with goldenboy or haymon not working with arum?

Posted July 22, 2014 6:56 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Auzbox….why can’t Manny fight Thurman, Porter, Broner or even Khan? WHY? Algieri!? Pffffff cut the sh!t dude.

Posted July 22, 2014 6:53 pm 


TARK

Anyway…, Salido appropriately lost his title vs Loma — and Loma owns it.

Posted July 22, 2014 6:51 pm 


TARK

Auzbox…, As far as I’m concerned Lomachenko was 2-0 when he faced Russell.

He landed a lot more clean punches than Salido and almost knocked him out in the last round. He was the victim of a robbery that I won’t accept.

Posted July 22, 2014 6:49 pm 


Auzbox

With all maidanas power he couldn’t stop an old old morales. The same as canelo hasn’t stopped any stars either. Very good young kid but canelo is no where near his best yet he is still growing and strength.

Posted July 22, 2014 6:47 pm 


Auzbox

Peej you only don’t risk the larger sentence if there is guilt there. If you were 100 prevent that your innocent with his bank balance it is an easy time in court. Him not risking it with all his money and lawyers he could have had, surely some or a lot of guilt.

Posted July 22, 2014 6:45 pm 


TARK

Sredmond.., “You are WHINING about Mayweather against Canelo and Maidana”

I hyped Floyd-Canelo more than a year before it happened.. I said it would break all PPV revenue records.. It was obviously the richest fight in Boxing History.

Canelo fought a terrible fight against Floyd and Floyd fought a great fight… Floyd fought a terrible fight against Maidana and Maidana fought a great fight.

That doesn’t mean Maidana was an appropriate fight.. Not with with Pacquiao.. Porter.. Thurman.. and Brook in the ranks… Other than Broner, who had a weak win over Malignaggi, who did Marcos ever beat???

Posted July 22, 2014 6:45 pm 


Auzbox

With all mannys ring wear still beats an undefeated young prime top 3 p4p champion. Floyd struggles with a guy not ever rated p4p and khan leftovers. Much closer than people think. Floyd didn’t fight bad last time out, he fought his best and maidana was tired half way through. Maidana hasn’t beat a heap of stars, he is very good but Alexander schooled him with ease and devin wasn’t at his best that night either.

Posted July 22, 2014 6:43 pm 


Auzbox

Tark vasyl was not 2-0 he was 1-1, you throw all your stats around but in that as alot of times you are wrong

Posted July 22, 2014 6:37 pm 


FLOYD

@Hecdog…Pac came on ESPN and told a bold face lie…cut the crap already. If he wanted the fight he would’ve took the test. First he was scared of needles, then blood weakened him. Then he would take less money…that’s all LIES!!!! Bob Arum is his pimp…Hecdog don’t know sht.

Posted July 22, 2014 6:29 pm 


TARK

@PEEJ and Sred.., I’ve already complained about Pacquiao fighting Algieri … I said he obviously should be fighting Floyd… Porter… Thurman… or Brook.

I already said Algieri is a wimp out fight. That’s what I posted. I”m not excusing Pacquiao for cherry-picking Algieri.

However Algieri may give Pacquiao a lot more than he bargained for… Chris definitely isn’t planning on leaving that ring alive — unless he has the title.

Reporter.., “Roberto, you’re only 20. What will you do if Ken Buchanan beats you?”

Duran.., “I know I’ll win. I’ll commit suicide if he beats me.”

With certain fights, with certain fighters, there’s a level of desire you won’t not see for a long time. Algieri won’t win this fight, but he definitely sees a clear path to victory for himself. Why? I don’t know why he would – but he asked for this fight.

I remember most boxing people saying Duran was too green for Buchanan. I just felt 100% that Duran was going to win because of his desire and attitude. With Algieri I’ll say 30%. I don’t know how he could possibly do it – other than he’s just a really focused character.

Pacquiao isn’t looking past him – but that would be really easy to do.

Posted July 22, 2014 6:28 pm 


??

Floyd’s personal problems have ALWAYS been heavily scrutinized. He’s been demonized systematically. He was never found guilty of anything and there were never any wounds found on the alleged victim. I say let it go. Or start investigating the past of other fighters. Maidana supposedly was a gang member. Write about that and lets be fair.

Posted July 22, 2014 6:11 pm 


PEEJ

A plea bargin is not an admission to guilt. Technically. Basically you are not trying to go to trial because the jury could find you guilty and sentence you to much longer time.

Posted July 22, 2014 6:03 pm 


PEEJ

Hecdog fact is he can only do what Arum says. He said he would take less, Arum said had to be 50/50. Arum said Floyd doesn’t dictate the dates. Arum said had to build a stadium. And I just watched it and not sure about that. Smith putting on reading glasses is different than Pac putting on sunglasses. And once again like I said he has to do everything Arum says. Proof is they didn’t want this Algerie fight. They wanted the Ruslan fight and Arum said no.

Posted July 22, 2014 5:27 pm 


Hecdog

PEEJ my friend, Manny put his glasses on just to mimic Stephen A. Smith whom put his on and was preparing to hear Manny’s response. Youtube it and you’ll see it clearly. The fact of the matter is that Manny agreed to everything and wanted the fight to happen. Floyd has never really wanted that fight. If it were to happen now, it’s too late. Both are past their primes. A total shame not to see both in their prime at their best.

Posted July 22, 2014 5:21 pm 


EZ E

ZUKS And like I already pointed out, that same make and model of gloves were APPROVED and USED and deemed LEGAL in a Las Vegas fight card that same week PRIOR to the fight. Maybe you know something about it that we don’t know, just asking.

Posted July 22, 2014 5:13 pm 


EZ E

ZUKS The issue was THAT particular make of gloves, which Floyd REFUSED altogether, remember? First he complained about the padding of the first pair. Maidana chose another set of gloves of that SAME make and Floyd refused to allow him to use them too AFTER the commission said they were LEGAL, OKAYED & APPROVED!! Floyd STILL said NO!! FLOYD insisted that Maidana accept to fight with the gloves FLOYD wanted him and threatened to call the fight of REGARDLESS of the commission’s approval!! This was something so embarrassing for the commission that it eventually had settled BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. That’s the TRUTH! And NO, I don’t have a copy of the contract, do YOU?? hmmmm… Anyway, if it WAS in the contract then it NEVER would’ve been an issue in THE FIRST PLACE. That’s an OBVIOUS ‘no brainer’ answer, wouldn’t you agree? IMO you’re defending a lost cause/argument, but it’s all good.

Posted July 22, 2014 5:05 pm 


PEEJ

Yes Tark has a double standard when it comes to Floyd.

Posted July 22, 2014 5:00 pm 


PEEJ

Hecdog, I suggest you watch that First Take again on ESPN. He had to put his sunglasses on which basically ment he didn’t want folks to look him in the eyes when he answered. And apparently he may have been willing to take less but Arum was not. Just because Pac says something, it means nothing. It is what Arum says that matters.

Posted July 22, 2014 5:00 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, Algieri is a SUB World Class boxer even though he showed some serious GRIT… You are WHINING about Mayweather against Canelo and Maidana who are World Class with Top Trainers and resources but you think that Pac Man is being fairly matched with Algieri??? Hypocrite…

Posted July 22, 2014 4:56 pm 


Hecdog

Floyd, Thurmal Underwear my friends, please don’t get all riled up. I merely stated FACTS. The truth sometimes hurts, but the fact of the matter is that Manny Pacquiao went on ESPN”S First Take and looked right into the cameras and told Floyd he would take less, take any and all tests just to give the fans what they wanted. Floyd never responded just added more and more and more demands and excuses. Sorry gentlemen, Floyd wants no part of Manny Pacquiao. This is fact. Manny wasn’t going to let Mr. Ego get his way on anything when Dummy Floyd offered to send Manny a $40 million check. Mind you, Manny was far bigger than him. Manny Pacquiao calls all the shots, he’s the biggest draw ever, so forget Floyd’s dummy tactics. Manny Pacquiao is the better fighter and the 8 division titles prove it. Case closed.

Posted July 22, 2014 4:49 pm 


TARK

Cassius Clay fought Sonny Liston when he had 19 fights… He was a 7-1 underdog.

Leon Spinks fought Ali when he had only 7 fights… He was a 15-1 underdog.

Davey Moore fought Ayub Kalule for a world 140lb title when he was 10-0.

Saensak Muangsurin fought Perico Fernandez for the world 140lb title when he was 2-0.

Vasyl Lomachenko fought Gary Russell, 24-0, for the World 126lb title when he was 2-0.

Guillermo Rigondeaux fought Ricardo Cordoba for the world 122lb title when he was 6-0.

All of the above greenhorns won their title fights.. It’s not how many fights you have.. It’s how your skills, strengths, and weaknesses match up vs the guy who’s title you’re trying to nab.

Algieri is a known nabber… He’s not experienced…just exceptionally tenacious.

Posted July 22, 2014 4:21 pm 


Anonymous

Bananaman’s posts are gone……

Posted July 22, 2014 3:23 pm 


SREDMOND

ESPN’s Dan Rafael on the upcoming Manny fight….2. Manny Pacquiao (56-5-2)

When Pacquiao faced Timothy Bradley Jr. (31-1) in June 2012, two of the judges delivered horrendous scorecards, which gave Bradley an undeserved split decision and a world title in one of the most controversial results ever. On April 12, Pacquiao faced Bradley again and beat him almost as convincingly in a very exciting fight, but this time he got the unanimous decision he deserved, handing Bradley his first official defeat and reclaiming his world title. The PacMan is back, but unfortunately his next opponent is going to be junior welterweight titlist Chris Algieri (20-0) in what looks like a brutal mismatch that will take place in Macau.
Next: Nov. 22 vs. Algieri.

Posted July 22, 2014 3:05 pm 


SREDMOND

Manny Pacquiao is simply NOT gonna make or break Floyd.. If he defeats him everyone will say that poor Manny was OLD and that Marquez starched him…Pac Man is an ATG fighter but his age and ring wear have been showing, he was in with Rios who can’t win against even 75% of Pac Man, Bradley simply offers NO punching power despite a big heart and some skills and Marquez flatblasted him… NOW we have him facing an unthinkable level of opponent before JMM gutted him in Algieri….I would still watch this bout happily but I am OVER it… Its just a STALE scenario at this point they would not lace up till Manny was 36 and Floyd 38 at the soonest… Put a fork in it

Posted July 22, 2014 2:58 pm 


FLOYD

@Hecdog….Shut the fuk up IDIOT!!!! That’s all hype. The bottom line is Manny refused to take the test when the fight was prime. I told him I would give him 14 days NO TESTING before the fight, he said NO! he wanted more time, to get off his sht. He wanted 50/50 of the money. that is NEVER gonna happen. I offered him 40M and we would negotiate the PPV buys. He said NO! I told him I would not negotiate with Bob who still owes me 5M. He signed with for another 2yrs…Bob Arum now says he wont negotiate with Al Haymon or Richard Shcaefer my financial advisors…so SHUT THE FUK UP!!!!!!

Posted July 22, 2014 2:14 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot, Pac just didn’t refuse the drug test, that is what he should of done. It is the way he refused. He made up several excuses on why he couldn’t take the random testing. If he would of said no it would of been much different than I am superstitious.

Posted July 22, 2014 2:10 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Hecdog

Floyd Mayweather’s excuses for not fighting Manny Pacquiao. The list will continue to grow.

1. “Health is more important than money. I want to be there for my kids. I don’t want to be walking with a limp or end up like Muhammad Ali. I’m smart. I’m a rich scared coward.
2. I’m on vacation.
3. I’m not doing the fight if Bob Arum is involved. I hate Bob Arum.
4. Manny already has five losses.
5. I don’t love boxing anymore like I used to.
6. Pacquiao won’t take the test.
7. If I beat Manny Pacquaio do you know what they are going to say? ‘You are supposed to beat him.
8. I never said Pacquiao would be next at all. So please, don’t put words in my mouth.
9. I call all the shots, I’m my own boss. Pacquiao isn’t his own boss
He has to sign with TMT and leave Top Rank.
10. He is not on my level.
11. I don’t need a belt, the belt doesn’t make the fighter. I’m bigger than boxing. I will vacate the belt.
12. The only reason Manny is trying to fight me now is because of his tax problems, he needs the money
P.S.
Roger Mayweather: “Pacquiao is taking some type of drug called “A-side meth”
Floyd Mayweather, Sr.: “I fear for my son’s life if he fights Pacquiao.”
Posted July 22, 2014 1:27 pm

^manny’s excuse: i do whatever my boss bob arum says. hiding behind the jew that created him. smoke and mirrors. that’s why manny won’t say a word. bob arum got his number and knows where the juice came from. why do you think he resigned w/ top rank. he had to or it all falls down.

Posted July 22, 2014 1:58 pm 


Hecdog

Floyd Mayweather’s excuses for not fighting Manny Pacquiao. The list will continue to grow.

1. “Health is more important than money. I want to be there for my kids. I don’t want to be walking with a limp or end up like Muhammad Ali. I’m smart. I’m a rich scared coward.
2. I’m on vacation.
3. I’m not doing the fight if Bob Arum is involved. I hate Bob Arum.
4. Manny already has five losses.
5. I don’t love boxing anymore like I used to.
6. Pacquiao won’t take the test.
7. If I beat Manny Pacquaio do you know what they are going to say? ‘You are supposed to beat him.
8. I never said Pacquiao would be next at all. So please, don’t put words in my mouth.
9. I call all the shots, I’m my own boss. Pacquiao isn’t his own boss
He has to sign with TMT and leave Top Rank.
10. He is not on my level.
11. I don’t need a belt, the belt doesn’t make the fighter. I’m bigger than boxing. I will vacate the belt.
12. The only reason Manny is trying to fight me now is because of his tax problems, he needs the money
P.S.
Roger Mayweather: “Pacquiao is taking some type of drug called “A-side meth”
Floyd Mayweather, Sr.: “I fear for my son’s life if he fights Pacquiao.”

Posted July 22, 2014 1:27 pm 


SREDMOND

Hidbee just wants to argue for the sake of it, Mayweathers earnings are stated openly he is an athlete and not someone sponging off of a corporation where he has a role as CEO and abusing his power… Denis Koslowski, Kenneth Lay and Bernie Ebbers were crooks plain and simple… Mayweather is a prize fighter despite the fact that his prizes are HUGE compared to other athletes.

Posted July 22, 2014 1:12 pm 


Anonymous

HibDeeBibDee

Accounting Misstatements

WorldCom made major accounting misstatements that hid the increasingly perilous financial condition of the company. The Report described the accounting shenanigans as follows: “… As enormous as the fraud was, it was accomplished in a relatively mundane way: more than $9 billion in false or unsupported accounting entries were made in WorldCom’s financial systems in order to achieve desired reported financial results …”

Posted July 22, 2014 1:09 pm 


Anonymous

hibdeebibdee says:

“Mayweather earns his living MORE honestly than tons of corporate execs who are cooking the books and defrauding shareholders daily..”

You certainly have no proof of that SRedmond.

What about WorldCom?

When WorldCom, the telecommunications giant, failed and was put into bankruptcy, the U.S. witnessed one of the largest accounting frauds in history. Former CEO, Bernie Ebbers, 63, was convicted of orchestrating this US$11 billion accounting fraud and was sentenced to 25 years in prison on July 13, 2005. source Ecommerce

Posted July 22, 2014 1:08 pm 


SREDMOND

Pacquiao gets a pass from these clowns for facing Rios off a loss and Algieri who is not even a World Class fighter… They apply a TOTALLY different standard to Mayweather who is getting guys off BIG wins and that bring some danger to the ring via power or accomplishments of a mix of both.

Posted July 22, 2014 1:02 pm 


SREDMOND

Who dictates what is “morally right” as far as spending your own $$$$$ I could care less if he spends every dime of his money on stuff like that its not my business… And again it only offends those who get emotionally invested in another persons wealth.. As long as a person did not get their $$$ illegally how they spend it is their business.

Posted July 22, 2014 12:59 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Just curious

Auzbox have you seen Thurman he is way to green for Floyd, he got stunned his last few fights he got the victory but he is very hit able Thurman hasnt fought one credible fighter is in not tested Floyd would school him easy no he needs to fight Porter or Broner before you throw him to Floyd. I thought you had some knowledge but you are just a Floyd hater. But again I pose the question to you why is Manny not fight other good fighters?
Posted July 21, 2014 9:59 pm

^Auzbox….answer that last question. Why isn’t Manny fighting Thurman, Porter or Broner? There’s plenty of guys out there, but you’re silent on that Aussie.

Posted July 22, 2014 12:56 pm 


Da Unknown Comic

Sorry dude. Where I come from and everywhere I’ve been, accepting a plea deal is definitely the same as an admission of guilt. If you innocent why take a deal?

Posted July 22, 2014 12:16 pm 


brza da originator

Floyd can do whatever he wants with his money (not illegal but does nt mean its morally right) but someone needs to tell him that multi millionaire athletes should nt have to drop 100000gs at a strip to see skanky hoes take there clothes off plenty of em out there that do Iit for free

Posted July 22, 2014 12:13 pm 


SREDMOND

Hibdee, we KNOW that Mayweathers job is to “fight” and he does that UNLESS You have never seen that.. He does not sell cars, planes or need to do proper Accounting for the SEC or FINRA (Securities and Exchange Commission) the execs who defraud and cook books financially impact millions with their greed (I used to work in the financial sector so I know)… Mayweather is just an athlete that is highly compensated for his ability to sell his talents, all spending his discretionary on the part of those who purchase his bouts….

Posted July 22, 2014 10:24 am 


SREDMOND

Ok Then he has what ONLY one other fighter has had in the past 18 years… TWO shots at Mayweather who is pushing 38 years old… So lets see what Chino can do this time, will it be glancing blows and sloppy activity? or will he land some Money punches and put Mayweather away while becoming a part of history in the process? My money is on Floyd beating Maidana’s AZZ very clearly for 12 rounds and staying off the ropes the only place Chino has a shot at connecting.

Posted July 22, 2014 10:21 am 


hibdeebibdee

“Mayweather earns his living MORE honestly than tons of corporate execs who are cooking the books and defrauding shareholders daily..”

You certainly have no proof of that SRedmond.

Posted July 22, 2014 10:19 am 


hibdeebibdee

“But that is NOT gonna happen because Maidana is NO different than Floyd he is a capitalist and money motivated.”

Nah. Maidana just wants to kick Floyd’s a$$.

Posted July 22, 2014 10:18 am 


SREDMOND

Bananaman, I find your argument PATENTLY ridiculous and simply not relevant.. Maidana is hardly a poor or close to poor man after his last several purses… Boxing has ALWAYS seen leverage favor the more popular fighter or Champion… We saw Cotto take the LIONS share of the Prize Money against Martinez even though it was Sergios Title on the line… Why is that????? Its because Cotto sells the tickets and provides the platform for the payday that Martinez ultimately received himself… This is a BUSINESS, if Maidana was in the drivers seat he would make demands and I disagree that he is “at a disadvantage” he will be using 8oz gloves which are dangerous in the hands of a professional fighter NO MATTER what the brand.. AGAIN Floyd was FAR more important, accomplished ect when Oscar choose his gloves… Maidana can deal with it or he can take a stand and get replaced…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted July 22, 2014 9:55 am 


SREDMOND

If Maidana is so adamant about wearing these gloves then he should just tell Mayweather to drop dead and pull out of the fight…But that is NOT gonna happen because Maidana is NO different than Floyd he is a capitalist and money motivated.

Posted July 22, 2014 9:16 am 


SREDMOND

The only people affected by Mayweathers handling of HIS money are JEALOUS people and there is no other intelligent explanation… This is AMERICA and you pretty much have the right to do what you want, if you want to be gaudy with your wealth so be it… Mayweather earns his living MORE honestly than tons of corporate execs who are cooking the books and defrauding shareholders daily.. ie Enron, Tyco, WorldCom, AIG and the list goes on… Floyd is just a microcosm of American society if you make $$$$ then a lot of things can be overlooked. The Catholic Church pretty much sanctioned and hid away the systemic abuse of boys by Rapists disguised as Priests yet some people still act as if the institution is above reproach… Mayweather is just a man with his issues and if he gets too far out of line he will have to PAY like he already has…

Posted July 22, 2014 9:14 am 


curtley

2 Things here Floyd has proven on many occasions crass flashing of money in times of recession, racist comments and more than likely beating women. This shows he is not a particularly nice person or the person we see is unpleasant but he is a phenomenal boxer and really as this is a boxing forum that is all that should matter. As for the gloves all this does is devalues Floyds win (should he win) as Maidana should be able to use any gloves approved by the commission, if he feels the Everlast gloves are an advantage why not wear them himself?

Posted July 22, 2014 9:05 am 


Zuks

@neno:
Maybe he can also start talking crap like Floyd used to i.e Gatti (RIP), surely he can back it up.

Posted July 22, 2014 8:27 am 


nemo

Rigo should move to europe. I don’t know why, but there’s more appreciation for hi spure talent and championship than in the US. Maybe go with the K2-promo and be with the “boring” Klitschko and box in front of 40.000 interested people instead of max 5.000 knowitalls.
It’s not US-boxing, it’s professional boxing. Go earn your money Rigo. I’d hate it to see him in dire straits at the end of his career.

Posted July 22, 2014 8:03 am 


TMZ

Just A Fan, I wrote that no one deserves to be struck and I wrote that if a woman hits you, then go haul her ass to the cop shop. I don’t know what happened with Floyd and his woman, hit someone said it involved the kids. If someone knows then please let me know. I’m just saying that sometimes situations can be manipulated. Floyd had a new woman and his baby mama wasn’t happy bout the situation. I’m not gonna accuse her without proof and I DO NOT say striking a woman is the way to go about things. All I said is sometimes they know how to push your buttons and some men need to recognise when this is happening and get the hell out of dodge before they do some the g stupid.
We all need to add some rules in our lives: Never argue or fight in front of the kids. Never strike anyone in front of the kids. Try and get a neutral to mediate, if possible in domestic situations.
Life ain’t easy, but we sure as hell like to f.kuc it up. PEACE.

Posted July 22, 2014 7:19 am 


wazza_g1980

@ Vivek re: the gloves: Complete and utter garbage – couldn’t disagree more!

Posted July 22, 2014 6:53 am 


Zuks

@Bananaman
I think it is the issue because if it was not the issue we wouldn’t be talking about them gloves. Somehow I agree with you that it’s not the issue when it comes to what Maidana can do in the ring, he was banging Mayweather with them gloves he used and won some rounds. Didn’t he?

Maidana has demonstrated without a shadow of a doubt that he is a dangerous opponent in this era and his high KO ratio attests to that. If you look at any boxer’s career, the more they climb the ladder the more they have financial leverage over others, you can even ask Lara when he fought Cotto, therefore Mayweather is entitled to have such financial leverage over his opponents just like any other A-side boxer. I am sure Manny can agree to that.

Maidana is the great challenge, maybe not the greatest according to your standard which I fully respect. I honestly do not see any diminishing of Maidana’s capabilities, as a matter of fact Mayweather say put him in on an even playing field with me, he must use the same gloves as me.

Posted July 22, 2014 6:25 am 


Zuks

@Auzbox
It’s not the commission that is in that squared ring. The commission doesn’t advocate for blood and urine testing as Floyd wants….it happens still.

Posted July 22, 2014 6:06 am 


Boxing Expert

TARK

Boxing Expert (more apt is Boxing Idiot) says.., “Nobody is afraid of Rigo.”

WTF? LMAO!!! … Did you see Nonito Donaire demand a rematch???

Are Leo Santa Cruz and Carl Frampton anxious to fight Rigo—who’s considered by far and away the greatest fighter in the world at 122???

ZERO top-rated 122-pounders want to fight Rigondeaux for his valuable World Super-Bantamweight Championship. He’s one of the most feared boxers on the planet.

ALL of these shrinking violets are afraid of Guillermo Rigondeaux you stupid jackass.
Posted July 22, 2014 2:15 am

TARKY BOY (the loverboy who is so smitten by the cuban Rigo)
You are the only one that is saying everybody is afraid of your track and field boyfriend Rigo. Maybe in your mind everybody is afraid of the track and field champion. But again, I say NOBODY is afraid of Rigo, even the Thai guy who you called a bum is not even afraid lol.

Posted July 22, 2014 2:29 am 


TARK

Boxing Expert (more apt is Boxing Idiot) says.., “Nobody is afraid of Rigo.”

WTF? LMAO!!! … Did you see Nonito Donaire demand a rematch???

Are Leo Santa Cruz and Carl Frampton anxious to fight Rigo—who’s considered by far and away the greatest fighter in the world at 122???

ZERO top-rated 122-pounders want to fight Rigondeaux for his valuable World Super-Bantamweight Championship. He’s one of the most feared boxers on the planet.

ALL of these shrinking violets are afraid of Guillermo Rigondeaux you stupid jackass.

Posted July 22, 2014 2:15 am 


Crimson Avenger

It’s a good thing Floyd has man up to avenge his loss against Maidana. Though, it will either be Maidana the winner by stoppage or Floyd by decision via a track and field win.

Posted July 22, 2014 2:02 am 


Auzbox

Zuks if the commission said the glove is ok then the glove is ok. It’s not for floyd to think he runs the commission.

Posted July 22, 2014 1:48 am 


Zuks

@Papo:
Maidana can’t argue that he could have KOe’d Floyd, unless it has happened before. Regarding Floyd’s statement about him using the same gloves if he thinks he won, that’s no brainer, he thinks he won not using his “magic gloves”, so what will prevent him from winning again? He also did say at least now he will time to acclimatize himself with them glove that Floyd wants him to wear. Maidana is making excuses about the gloves, period, numbers don’t lie, at least he should have landed more than Floyd (even if he doesn’t KO him).

Posted July 22, 2014 1:34 am 


Zuks

@EZ E
Thanks for agreeing that indeed, Floyd Mayweather is the A-side and for stating that he has earned “that right”. You are omitting that all negotiations matters be it stipulated in the contract or not (by the way do you have a copy of that contract, just asking) he also has leverage over them, similar to when Oscar fought him (he had to adhere to all his conditions, whether they were stipulated in the contract or not). You are wrong in stating that a glove without padding is legal. Well they did say they are not fighting, if you watched the clip when they were discussing the gloves issue.

Posted July 22, 2014 1:32 am 


Auzbox

Yes banana man does have the beat!

Posted July 22, 2014 1:23 am 


Mikey

Bananaman has the beat!

Posted July 22, 2014 12:51 am 


Auzbox

I don’t write well dino lol

Posted July 22, 2014 12:45 am 


Dino

We all know these are maybe real question but topics at the moment on vivek minds this week. Love how vivek complain about manny opponate Chris who is a strong boxer who fans say he should be facing more to prove his weak side, never mentions this, but on the flip side not talking about one of Floyd last 3 fight before he retireds is a rerun fight that also a ppv that he garantee to win.
Why not talk about Floyd crawing back to Oscar as he found out that he can’t put up the 45-50 million plus promoting work to hold his own Floyd promotion event and fight cards that he has to prepay and it’s a gamble that will bring less than what he was accustom to getting. Please be real or your just Floyd fans boys writers.

Posted July 22, 2014 12:24 am 


Dino

Auzbox
All Your post make no sense after reading 10 times, what with the tark in most post? but I get it that it’s some tried sort of warped humor.

Posted July 22, 2014 12:06 am 


Boxing Expert

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Posted July 21, 2014 11:24 pm

No wonder Eastsideboxing is turning out to be a place where like-minded individual gather together to self-praise their fave boxer and root out any individual who deviate from the agenda of the higher-ups

Posted July 21, 2014 11:39 pm 


Boxing Expert

Qoute: “That’s why Rigo was relegated to fighting the unknown Kokietgym, while the best 122-pounders pretend he doesn’t exist. He was damned lucky Donaire felt Rigo was too inexperienced for him.”

—That’s a load of B.S. No body is afraid of Rigo. Rigo’s style is making him to be not that marketable so he fights people that are relatively unknown whose opponent would gladly take for economic reason.. Get his balls out of your mouth Tarky, you’re turning out to be a Rigo mistress..

Posted July 21, 2014 11:29 pm 


Old Coot

@ PeeJ: Sorry for the long delayed reply… Had stuff to do… Now where was I? Oh yeah…

Dude, Floyd negotiates by catch-22… So Manny is damned if he does or don’t…. For instance, when Floyd made unheard of unconventional drug test demands, based upon NOTHING but the voices in Floyd’s and his old man’s heads… NOT on ONE SINGLE FACT!, Manny refused, as he should have!!… Especially since at the time, Manny was ranked higher than Floyd anyhow…. But then when Manny did refuse to kiss Floyd’s ego, of course Floyd again falsely accuses him of hiding something, trying to distract from the fact he never should have accused Manny to start with… And we now know Floyd had to pay Pacquiao a huge defamation settlement because he had no cause.

Next, after the Mosley fight, Mayweather denied he and Pacquiao even had negotiations when everybody knew better, then Floyd fake retired to let the heat die down.

Then when the PED angle was played out, Next, came Floyd’s ridiculously unfounded and TOTALLY unfair purse split demands, which had Manny been gullible enough to accept them, Floyd would then went on 24/7 or All Access bragging how he played “STUPID” Manny Pacquiao for tens of millions. But then when Manny refused, no problem… Floyd had a plan for that too… Just pivoted to accusing Manny of blowing his chance to make the fight… Again, catch-22…

Next, when the PED, and purse-split excuses have played out, Floyd demands Manny become disloyal to Arum. And if Manny did, Floyd could then brag about how he made Arums biggest fighter leave him. Not to mention, that had Manny left Arum, I GARONTEEE!! that ole chicken Floyd already has concocted some NEW reason not to fight Manny anyway…
Bottom line Floyd has not, does not, and never will want to REALLY fight Manny!

Now we see today, Floyd is STILL pulling more unwarranted demands, this time about Maidana’s gloves, because Floyd knows he can’t keep Marcos off him, because his defense isn’t all that after all!

Posted July 21, 2014 11:20 pm 


Auzbox

Now there is a name tark the klits, wlad is the king

Posted July 21, 2014 10:29 pm 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

Floyd beats manny in 2012, and beyond but in 09,08,07 floyd dies and he knows it same as the world knows it

Posted July 21, 2014 10:20 pm 


TARK

Vivek says.., “There’s a higher premium on the way you fight, as opposed to whether or not you win.”

That’s not true. There’s a higher premium on winning—always has been.

Gene Tunney was the first boxer to make a million dollars for a fight—even though the public didn’t like his style.. He was a clever defender who used the ring, footwork, feints, jabs, and counters. Tunney thought toe-to-toe slugging was foolhardy. He was the flip side of Dempsey who was one of the greatest box office attractions of all time.

But Rigondeaux has a serious problem. With all the boxing orgs today it’s easy to isolate the best fighter in any weight division – and to ignore him and his title fights. That’s why Rigo was relegated to fighting the unknown Kokietgym, while the best 122-pounders pretend he doesn’t exist. He was damned lucky Donaire felt Rigo was too inexperienced for him.

Rigondeaux needs to learn English like the Klitschkos. Then he can mount a public campaign to embarrass Frampton and Santa Cruz into fighting him. Boxers need rhetorical skills today to get the massive media attention that puts pressure on the guys they want to fight.

Cassius Clay was the prototype hustler with his “Big Ugly Bear” campaign.

Either that, or you need a manager who’s as clever as Cus D’Amato.

Posted July 21, 2014 10:14 pm 


Auzbox

Finally a bit of sense and didn’t gatti already loose like 6 times before floyd?

Posted July 21, 2014 10:13 pm 


brza da originator

@? Ur boxing knowledge is not very good r ur a fanboy if u think hernandez castillo n corrales get in the hof . N do u really think a victory over gatti is worth more than getting the w in second bouts over marquez morales barrera n bradley. Once again just usin plain facts not opinions to school fanboys who disrespect the sport I love by scewin facts n using double standards to tear down r buold up certain fighters . That lesson was free . Ur welcome.

Posted July 21, 2014 10:10 pm 


Auzbox

Your just a lover, go back to the 70s and 80s there is 5 that walk through floyd with one arm

Posted July 21, 2014 10:09 pm 


Auzbox

P4p greats wouldn’t do majority wins to khan and Alexander leftovers

Posted July 21, 2014 10:09 pm 


Auzbox

I’m no hater he is not the greatest we have seen not even close, Chavez sr won his first 80 odd now that’s greatness. It’s my opinion manny is better and no ones opinion is ever wrong

Posted July 21, 2014 10:08 pm 


?

Floyd could beat PAC, Porter, Thurman, and who ever. Fans like Auzbox will always make excuses.

Posted July 21, 2014 10:07 pm 


Auzbox

Floyd own father said I would be scared for my son if he fought manny. If his own father and trainer said that then that’s gospel

Posted July 21, 2014 10:06 pm 


?

Auzbox your just a hater dude plain and simple. I get if people don’t like Floyd’s character as it leaves a lot to be desired. Denying his abilities in the ring is just ridiculous.

Posted July 21, 2014 10:06 pm 


Auzbox

No your using one fight. Hoya kills Marquez so does cotto and Moseley but they can’t touch manny. Your using one fighter. Using your logic Marquez must be able to beat hatton? Not going to happen

Posted July 21, 2014 10:05 pm 


Auzbox

What’s floyds best win in the last 10 years

Posted July 21, 2014 10:04 pm 


?

Auzbox like I said styles make fights. NONE of that stuff matters. Let’s go by your point of view. Manny struggles against Marquez because he has a high IQ and and a counter puncher. Floyd is smarter, bigger, faster, and a much better counter puncher than Marquez. So once again by your argument Floyd wins.

Posted July 21, 2014 10:03 pm 


Auzbox

Canelo was never a split win it was a majority win as was maidana

Posted July 21, 2014 10:02 pm 


Auzbox

Floyd fought Judah after a loss and Kostya bashed him he was never the same

Posted July 21, 2014 10:02 pm 


Auzbox

Margo beat cotto better than floyd could ever dream of

Posted July 21, 2014 10:00 pm 


Auzbox

Yeh thurman was stunned but floyd can’t stun him, no power just ask maidana he will tell you

Posted July 21, 2014 10:00 pm 


?

If Margo is HOF than so is Judah and Maidana lol.

Posted July 21, 2014 10:00 pm 


Auzbox

Dela Hoya touched floyd but couldn’t manny so that’s even right there. Dela said his hardest most awkward fight was manny

Posted July 21, 2014 9:59 pm 


Just curious

Auzbox have you seen Thurman he is way to green for Floyd, he got stunned his last few fights he got the victory but he is very hit able Thurman hasnt fought one credible fighter is in not tested Floyd would school him easy no he needs to fight Porter or Broner before you throw him to Floyd. I thought you had some knowledge but you are just a Floyd hater. But again I pose the question to you why is Manny not fight other good fighters?

Posted July 21, 2014 9:59 pm 


?

The thing is PAC has lost to two of those fighters. Floyd has zero losses. Hell he only has 3 split decisions in 46 fights and one of those was against Canelo which we all know is BS.

Posted July 21, 2014 9:58 pm 


Auzbox

No that’s one floyd handled better going off what I’m saying manny wins as he beats the other 4 a lot better

Posted July 21, 2014 9:57 pm 


Auzbox

The hall of famers on that list will be even. Margo could be hall of fame. Moseley was a cheat and he is

Posted July 21, 2014 9:56 pm 


?

Auzbox porter not Thurman stand more than a punchers chance. Marquez barely touched Floyd when they fought and he also admitted that Floyd was a better boxer than PAC and he said it wS pointless for him to fight Floyd again. By your argument that means Floyd beats PAC since he easily handled the man who flattened PAC right? Guess what? Styles make fights. All that comparison BS means nothing.

Posted July 21, 2014 9:56 pm 


Auzbox

Canelo will be there but so will Bradley he beat PAC and Marquez two hall of famers canelo only best 1

Posted July 21, 2014 9:55 pm 


Auzbox

Yeh so manny beat 5 on that list as well as Barrera morales both hall of fame

Posted July 21, 2014 9:54 pm 


Auzbox

Thurman could beat floyd, porter will give him a run. Yeh manny got beat by Marquez but handled the rest of floyds opponents better. So if we are gauging off commen opponents manny does better against 80 percent

Posted July 21, 2014 9:52 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Just curious

Why is Manny not fighting other great fighters besides Floyd? I mean its plenty of other good fighters out there big fights like Danny Garcia, Broner, Mattysse, Kahn, Porter, Thurman and Canelo the list goes on. I dont hear any mentioning these guys for Manny. Floyd cannot save his Career. And if Mannys ppvs are the second highest behind Floyd then why is he broke? And if he never used PEDS then why he never took the random blood tests? And if he has big ppvs numbers why dont he fight in the largest boxing venues like Vegas instead of China who has little boxing fans?

Posted July 21, 2014 9:32 pm

^and you’ll never hear them mention those guys. it’s because he’s not that good and he’s off the juice.

MANNY IS SMOKE AND MIRRORS!

Posted July 21, 2014 9:51 pm 


?

Auzbox beating the same fughter 3 times does not mean you beat 3 HIF fighters. That was a stupid statement.

1) ODH
2) Mosely
3) Marquez
4) Cotto
5) Gatti
6) Hatton
7) Castillo
8) Hernandez
9) Corrales

Just to name fighters that will be in the HOF that Floyd has beat. Canelo will be there too.

Posted July 21, 2014 9:51 pm 


Auzbox

Yeh great country, you shoot eachother at your army bases shoot up your schools, your police have steets they can’t drive up. Innocent people going to jail. Land of the free haha don’t think so

Posted July 21, 2014 9:50 pm 


rigs

Auzbox name me one person that can beat floyd answer is no one manny go ko by Marquez floyd is the best pfp get used to it son. Who is your favorite boxer . Floyd has four or 5 world titles currently . U.s. is the best country remember that

Posted July 21, 2014 9:47 pm 


Hitler

Curi@s and ? Just b sum ni@@a coarse you dum cun$$ go to the chi$ken pen. Your all gu[ty of some$hing you ferr@ls

Posted July 21, 2014 9:42 pm 


Auzbox

Floyd couldn’t even get the stoppage against his x

Posted July 21, 2014 9:36 pm 


Auzbox

More people in china then the us that’s for damb sure

Posted July 21, 2014 9:34 pm 


Auzbox

Broner is not special he is a blown up lightweight who maidana disposed of. Garcia fighting a bum after he got to the top of the division. Thurman is floyds mandotary let’s see how that went

Posted July 21, 2014 9:34 pm 


Auzbox

Plead guilty your guilty you wernt there either you just write on a forum under a ?

Posted July 21, 2014 9:32 pm 


Just curious

Why is Manny not fighting other great fighters besides Floyd? I mean its plenty of other good fighters out there big fights like Danny Garcia, Broner, Mattysse, Kahn, Porter, Thurman and Canelo the list goes on. I dont hear any mentioning these guys for Manny. Floyd cannot save his Career. And if Mannys ppvs are the second highest behind Floyd then why is he broke? And if he never used PEDS then why he never took the random blood tests? And if he has big ppvs numbers why dont he fight in the largest boxing venues like Vegas instead of China who has little boxing fans?

Posted July 21, 2014 9:32 pm 


Auzbox

Australia, more hall of fame fighters I don’t think so Marquez 4 times Barrera twice that’s 6 just there. Innocent people going to jail. Great country you live in

Posted July 21, 2014 9:32 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

Maidana did well enough in their fight last May that if I were Mayweather, I would not allow Maidana to use gloves of his own choosing.

Posted July 21, 2014 9:31 pm 


?

Auzbox says it definitely happened. Well everybody we have seemed to find the one person in the world outside of Floyd’s circle that was there when the altercation happened. Auzbox was there. He seen it first hand.

Posted July 21, 2014 9:29 pm 


?

Auzbox what country are you from to say some dumb stuff like “you don’t go to jail if your innocent.” This is America fool. Happens all day everyday. Shows how ignorant you are.

Posted July 21, 2014 9:27 pm 


?

Auzbox he’s beat the same fighters PAC did before PAC beat them with the exception of Cotto. Let me guess, your come back would be PAC beat them in more convincing Fasion. Well that would go against your original argument since those fighters were even more past their prime when PAC faced them. Floyd’s beaten more P4P fighters, current and former world champs, and HOF fighters than any current fighter and it’s not even a close second. Those are the FACTS. Not to mention there are people way more credible then anyone on this site that consider him the best fighter in the world bar none.

Posted July 21, 2014 9:24 pm 


enough already

Azzbox you such a nutt hugger Mannys ass licker, Manny beat Oscar, Cotto, Mosley and Hatton, But when Floyd beat all the same guy they were past there primes? Its good for one but not the other? You are a weak biootch who cries about Manny no one one cares about him you are a dck rider he blew his chance in 09 because of needles so cry all you want his career is over and his nest fight proves it.

Posted July 21, 2014 9:23 pm 


Auzbox

Before loss

Posted July 21, 2014 9:23 pm 


Auzbox

You don’t go to jail if your innocent. Def happened. Floyd got a while to go to beat Chavez sr 80 odd undefeated record.

Posted July 21, 2014 9:21 pm 


?

Floyd’s reasoning for taking a plea was because he would miss his scheduled fights due to the trial. Not saying its true, but it’s a good reason if you know your not going to get time. Know one knows what happen accept him and his mothers child. Amazing how he can supposedly beat her in front if the kid like that but yet some how still gets to keep the kids. Side eye.

Posted July 21, 2014 9:20 pm 


Auzbox

Biggest fights haha Ortiz Guerrero maidana ppv didn’t even beat Bradley ppv with no undercard haha

Posted July 21, 2014 9:18 pm 


Auzbox

Easy to be undefeated when you have only fought 3 guys in their prime

Posted July 21, 2014 9:17 pm 


Auzbox

Making the biggest money doesn’t define greatness just bank balance. Manny beats 80 percent of floyds opponents worse and destroyed cotto better who was arguably fkoyds best win haha skirt

Posted July 21, 2014 9:16 pm 


rigs

1 . Mayweather
2.ward
3 garcia
4 pacquiao
5 . maidana
6.klitsko
7.porter
8.canelo
9.wilder
10ggg

Posted July 21, 2014 8:21 pm 


Auzbox

Floyd beats his woman cause he can’t beat any man. Maidanas face should show you what he does to a welterweight. NOTHING AFTER 12

Posted July 21, 2014 7:31 pm 


Auzbox

Sredmond says fight not gonna happen Marquez took the shine off it. Going of 2014 PAC beating the 3rd best fighter p4p on the planet and mayweather struggling to a majority decision from khan leftovers I would say puts him right bank in. Floyd in his prime was having Oscar problems but manny retired him. Floyd says he doesn’t get the KO anymore cause guys fight for the payday and they don’t come at him. Well maidana did and no KO. Cotto did and no KO. Cotto came at manny to when cotto was at his best and we know how that went :)

Posted July 21, 2014 7:28 pm 


Anonymous

@Tomato

You idiot,you’re the one out of touch.

1. Pacquiao
2. Lara
3. Ward
4. Hopkins
5. Klitschko
6. Rigondeaux
7. Garcia
8. Mayweather
9. GGG
10. Bradley

Posted July 21, 2014 7:26 pm 


Tomato Can

This is the most out of touch p4p list I’ve seen in a while: 1. Ward
2. Kovalev
3. Pacquiao
4. Marquez
5. Maidana
6. Gonzales
7. Froch
8. GGG
9. Shimen
10. Bradley

Posted July 21, 2014 6:54 pm 


Anonymous

Women are the scum of the earth.

Posted July 21, 2014 6:35 pm 


Anonymous

eric

Guess some of you guys have never been married or have a kids mom to deal with.

Theres no telling what the women did to Floyd.

Really man some of these women are fruitcakes, reckless, evil, manipulating psychopaths.

Not saying it’s okay to hit people but we don’t know what happened, I don’t have a problem with Floyd in that regard, thats Floyd’s personal business and he was punished for that and is trying to be a better man.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:18 pm

LOL

Posted July 21, 2014 6:34 pm 


rigs

This is boxing no woman’s journal talk about boxing or get off site

Posted July 21, 2014 6:22 pm 


De Lima I

“eric, women can be far more cruel and wicked than men. Sometimes they use kids to snare a man, they use kids to keep a man, they use kids to punish a man. They use the fact that they are the moms to refuse access to a man’s kids, if a relationship breaks down they use kids to try to destabilise and new relationship the man may make, in the end forcing him to choose between his kids or his new love. Violence is NEVER the answer, but mental cruelty by women can drive a man to this when it involves his children.”

Sad but true..

And let’s not forget the effect it will have on the kids..
“A woman’s morals, standards & mindset will be the things that raises your kids. Those are the things that will make her a good wife, a good parent and role model — not her good looks or great body. So choose wisely fellas.”

Posted July 21, 2014 6:21 pm 


Harry

I agree with the previous comment. Of all people the fact that he took a plea would be seen as an admission of guilt. Not many could afford the defense that FM could, so for him to not try to defend suggests insurmountable evidence in favor of the victims case. By the way, who set this Vivek Wallace guy up as an oracle that suckers should ask questions of?…..Vivek Wallace by any chance?

Posted July 21, 2014 6:18 pm 


Just a fan

TMZ,
Way to blame the victims. All of what you say may be true, still does not give Floyd the right to beat up his woman.

Posted July 21, 2014 6:15 pm 


Just a fan

Dude that answer to the Floyd Mayweather is a woman beater is a cop out…
You need pictures to prove to you he’s a woman beater, what horsesh_t ..
He pled guilty for a reason, because he was. Who in there right mind yet alone a public figure would plead guilty because it’s just to hard to prove there innocent. He took pleas because he was advised to by his high dollar lawyers to do so because if it went to trial the evidence was so stacked against Floyd that his A S S would of been tossed in jail. He he pleaded to stay out of jail. And when he finally ran out of pleas, because he was on his fourth woman beating charge, he got put in jail.

That’s when the self proclaimed “Best Ever” cried like a teen age girl to get out. Mr ” I’m going to take it like a man” wanted out of jail on the grounds that he has no bottle water. STOP BEING THE PROBLEM BY INABLEING THIS SERIAL WOMAN BEATER, TRY BEING THE SOLUTION.Maybe if more so called writers stuck up for Floyd’s victims instead of him he would think twice BEFOR he struck another woman.

Posted July 21, 2014 6:10 pm 


rigs

1 mayweather
2 ward
3 garcia
Coot you have maidana 5th mayweather beat maidana you must not saw the fight mayweather currently Has 4 or 5 world championship belts don’t hate

Posted July 21, 2014 6:08 pm 


Tmz

eric, women can be far more cruel and wicked than men. Sometimes they use kids to snare a man, they use kids to keep a man, they use kids to punish a man. They use the fact that they are the moms to refuse access to a man’s kids, if a relationship breaks down they use kids to try to destabilise and new relationship the man may make, in the end forcing him to choose between his kids or his new love. Violence is NEVER the answer, but mental cruelty by women can drive a man to this when it involves his children. I have never hit another human being (man or woman) unless it’s been in a boxing ring, but if someone tried to take my kids away from me or tried to blackmail me with my kids, who knows what I would do? I would gladly take 2 to the head for my kids and unless we are at the scene we can’t really judge. I heard it was something to do with his kids. Maybe I’m wrong, but women sometimes do some crazy things with their kids just to get a man to do what they want. I bet every one of us has been wound up enough by our woman to shout at her in public at least once. It happens. Doesn’t mean we don’t live her or care about her, but it just shows that our buttons can be pushed and it’s usually because you care about them that this happens.
Simplest thing is to have the policy of never laying a finger on anybody, unless they strike you first. If a woman strikes you, then let it slide or go find a policeman. No one male or female deserves to be struck by a fellow human being. They need to hail her ass go jail.

Posted July 21, 2014 5:17 pm 


?

Floyd is #1 on every pound for pound list with no exceptions. Attempts to degrade what he’s done in this sport, which by the way no other boxer has, are pathetic. Old coots a regiment is perhaps one of the weakest I’ve seen on ESB.

Posted July 21, 2014 5:07 pm 


?

Old coot is in idiot

Posted July 21, 2014 4:55 pm 


SREDMOND

“Lafayette on True Blood” now that is actually funny for a change LOL!

Posted July 21, 2014 4:54 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Old Coot

Thurmal Underwear: Why would the defensive “Hit and don’t get hit” master, need to worry about gloves?… Just defend.
Posted July 21, 2014 3:36 pm

^Because he’s the king of the entire sport; is the main ppv attraction in the entire world; is giving a rematch where one isn’t necessary; maidana is dirty enough already; maidana is recieving his 2nd highest $ fight in his life (thanks again Floyd); wouldn’t be sh!t w/o having fought floyd anyways; like Floyd said – if he beat him the 1st time w/o them, why does he need them this time? Still confused you old coot?

Posted July 21, 2014 4:49 pm 


Sredmond reminds me of Lafayette, True Blood

LMAO

Posted July 21, 2014 4:36 pm 


SREDMOND

Kovalev and GGG are NOT P4P fighters anymore than Deontay Wilder is… Fools smoking the KO pipe are trippin to say the least!

Posted July 21, 2014 4:31 pm 


mephisto

nothing wrong with slapping a b!tch around when they get outta line.

Posted July 21, 2014 4:12 pm 


eric

Okay back to boxing boys and girls

Posted July 21, 2014 4:10 pm 


eric

I was unaware Floyd had that many run in’s and i’m not saying it’s okay, what I am saying is women do some horrendous, horrific $ h! T to men and even kill men sometimes and somehow their cast a hero of sorts. Theres a big double standard, my x eife is the devil and had a couple botched murder attempts on me and she’s walking the streets today acting sweet as ice cream.

Posted July 21, 2014 4:09 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot Floyd has come up with what 3 excuses? How many have Pac and Arum come up with?

Posted July 21, 2014 4:09 pm 


SREDMOND

Pac Man does NOT fight outside of the Top Rank Stable look at his last few opponents Clottey, Bradley, Marquez, Rios, Algieri, Margo… He is NO different than FMJ all are keeping the # inhouse and your P4P list is Utterly invalid without Mayweather who is rated at the top by EVERYONE of note in the sport..FMJ vs Manny is NEVER gonna happen and Pacs MASSIVE loss to Marquez simply took the shine off that contest and its NOT coming back…

Posted July 21, 2014 4:08 pm 


Old Coot

SREDMOND: Ok, wishful thinking that the fight is “old news”, aside, MOST fans STILL just wanna see if Floyd can actually beat Pacman like he claims… That’s all!… PERIOD!! But he keeps using one so-called “reason” after another to blame Pacman… The latest is ARUM! LOL!!

Posted July 21, 2014 4:04 pm 


Old Coot

1. Ward
2. Kovalev
3. Pacquiao
4. Marquez
5. Maidana
6. Gonzales
7. Froch
8. GGG
9. Shimen
10. Bradley

10 best REAL P4P fighters! Floyd is only #1 amongst psuedo-fighters and like # 20 amongst real fighters.

Posted July 21, 2014 4:01 pm 


SREDMOND

Old Coot, Pac Man does not really deliver beatdowns like that anymore..Hitting Rios was EASY street against Bradley his accuracy was POOR and don’t tell me about Compubox… We know he cannot produce stoppages anymore EVERYONE goes 12 with him even Algieri who is not even World Class will likely hear the bell…. Pac Man “beating down” Mayweather is a VERY remote possibility…. Like Mayweather said “Manny has Marquez problems”

Posted July 21, 2014 3:59 pm 


SREDMOND

Ok Fight Aficionado we can NOW count on you NOT to frequent Mayweather threads nor watch his bouts since you are the epitome or moral indignation?? Yeah right you will be watching with some popcorn in one hand and your lovers shaft in your other… I’m not fooled!

Posted July 21, 2014 3:49 pm 


PEEJ

Can’t suspend a fighter for anything outside of the ring. There is no unified organization like NBA or NFL

Posted July 21, 2014 3:49 pm 


rigs

1. Mayweather
2. Ward
2 best pound for pound fighters

Posted July 21, 2014 3:47 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“Really man some of these women are fruitcakes, reckless, evil, manipulating psychopaths.” – Eric did you read the Deadspin story? Seven documented cases of battery and 3 convictions. The odds of all 7 women being liars is zero. And with 3 convictions these are facts, not allegations. Floyd is a serial woman beater. If he was an NBA or NFL player he’d have served suspensions and been vilified in the press. The boxing establishment and media are mostly nut slurpers though.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:45 pm 


SREDMOND

Fight Aficianado, you have still not explained how his issues with women impact his boxing career? seems he is winning ALL his fights to me and that is what is important unless you run a domestic violence shelter… Lets be honest you could care LESS about the women Floyd had altercations with you are just being a sanctimonious TWAT trying to focus on anything but his perfection in a boxing ring…46-0… Choke on it Poppy!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted July 21, 2014 3:43 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“Fight Aficionado, what does his woman beating have to do with his boxing?” – As with any famous athlete or public figure Floyd’s criminal past and his career as a boxer are inseparable. Floyd apologists like SREDMOND aka Supreme Court attempt to place his boxing career in a separate capsule. That gives passive support to woman beating.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:39 pm 


Old Coot

SREDMOND: Nah dude… You’re just trying to keep your hero from a well-earned and well-deserved Pac beatdown… But nice try.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:37 pm 


Old Coot

Thurmal Underwear: Why would the defensive “Hit and don’t get hit” master, need to worry about gloves?… Just defend.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:36 pm 


SREDMOND

No Old Coot I really do see the Pac vs May bout as STALE…. This began in 2009, its 2014 and Manny has been KNOCKED out, both guys are older.. Like most I would watch but the intrigue is gone, Floyd is CLEARLY the better fighter.. Manny is fighting rematches with guys he easily beat, guys like Rios coming off a loss and now a joke fight like Algieri…. Its a WRAP

Posted July 21, 2014 3:35 pm 


PEEJ

They said Cotto did but they were also 10 oz gloves

Posted July 21, 2014 3:34 pm 


eric

I faintly recall somebody writing that a Mayweather opponent in 2012 wore the exact same gloves maidona was denied?

Posted July 21, 2014 3:30 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Old Coot

Floyd was shocked that Maidana is as quick as he is… So now he’s trying to throw Maidana off.
Posted July 21, 2014 3:25 pm

^okay dude. 1 step forward and like 3 steps back for you.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:28 pm 


eric

Bean bag would hurt more if the zipper was facing out. Floyd wont allow that

Posted July 21, 2014 3:28 pm 


Old Coot

Deep down even Floydiacs are pained to defend this glove nonsense. But you know that like Floyd, they gotta’ front!

Posted July 21, 2014 3:27 pm 


Old Coot

SREDMOND: “Stale Manny fight”?… Even you don’t really buy that one… LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

Posted July 21, 2014 3:26 pm 


SREDMOND

Nothing “Insane about his actions” he has been denied gloves before and now its Maidanas turn…OF COURSE the big man should leverage his hard earned position… AGAIN if Marcos does not like it then go fight Thurman or Porter for PEANUTS….

Posted July 21, 2014 3:26 pm 


Old Coot

Floyd was shocked that Maidana is as quick as he is… So now he’s trying to throw Maidana off.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:25 pm 


SREDMOND

Old Coot, I am open to either fight but unlike you I am not gonna DREAM of a STALE Manny fight when these promotional outfits have not staged a major contest in 5 years PERIOD… Why waste my energy? its like wanting some p#$Sy from High School when you are a grown man.. MOVE ON! As for Khan the public is not too keen on Amir and he took himself out of the equation with his religion and God only knows if he can look impressive TWO fights in a row…

Posted July 21, 2014 3:25 pm 


educateyourself

“It’s the act of taking a lesser sentence to void the requirement of having to prove ones innocence”

It’s not required to prove ones innocence. The prosecution has the burden of proof.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:24 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: Floyd always makes insane demands to try to gain an edge, instead of just proving he’s the best at more than cherry-picking and mind games. And pathetic Floydiots defend his nonsense. LOL!

Posted July 21, 2014 3:24 pm 


Old Coot

?: Everyone but Floyd and his minions of Floydiacs and Floydiots, know this glove flap, total coward action! LOL!

Posted July 21, 2014 3:22 pm 


PEEJ

I never said he wasn’t. But they could of made the fight before and Arum didn’t. And now it is Arum refusing to work with Haymon. So now what you go to say? The fight will not get made plain and simple. Pac refused to take drug testing and Floyd refuses to work with Arum, Arum refuses to work with Haymon.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:21 pm 


Old Coot

SREDMOND: Funny how only FLOYD and his apologist like you, don’t wanna see if he’s better than Khan or Pacman… LOL!!

Posted July 21, 2014 3:21 pm 


?

It is absolutely Floyd’s call. Fans who think otherwise is only due to the FACT that they don’t like Floyd. Oscar did this vs. Floyd. PAC did it vs. Margo. The difference is that those fighters are fan favorites. That’s all that’s it. I think fighters should have to where the same style gloves agreed upon by the promoters.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:19 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: But it is Floyd refusing to deal with Arum, not vise-versa. But nice try LOL!!!

Posted July 21, 2014 3:18 pm 


eric

Guess some of you guys have never been married or have a kids mom to deal with.

Theres no telling what the women did to Floyd.

Really man some of these women are fruitcakes, reckless, evil, manipulating psychopaths.

Not saying it’s okay to hit people but we don’t know what happened, I don’t have a problem with Floyd in that regard, thats Floyd’s personal business and he was punished for that and is trying to be a better man.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:18 pm 


SREDMOND

Yeah Old Coot, Khan is a better fighter than Mayweather… YOU and NO ONE including Khan believes that crap… By your logic Terrence Crawford and Mike Alvarado are 3x better than Khan.. Both beat Prescott, meanwhile Khan is on a highlight reel video getting dropped… Even Maidana had Khan on QUEER street, while he NEVER hurt Mayweather despite his tactics..

Posted July 21, 2014 3:15 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd would beat Pac and Arum knows this and that is why he doesn’t want to make the fight. He doesn’t want Floyd to stick it to him again. I remember on First Take when they asked Pac if he wanted to fight Floyd, he had to pause, put on sunglasses and then answer the question. You know why? Because he didn’t want anybody to see the doubt in his eyes.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:15 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot I don’t know what you saw. I saw Maidana coming on at the end and if there maybe a different ref in there would of stopped the fight because Khan was out on his feet. Obviously Khan wasn’t really hurting Maidana except for that punch he landed to the body. Also Floyd was standing there with Maidana making him miss. Throwing twice as many shots as Floyd but Floyd landing cleaner punches and about the same or more. Hitting behind the head, below the belt and kneeing are not scoring blows. Throwing punches that don’t land are not scoring blows.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:14 pm 


Old Coot

Peej: Pac would be Floyd, if Floyd wasn’t pissing himself a the prospect.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:12 pm 


PEEJ

Well bean bags would hurt more than gloves would. lol

Posted July 21, 2014 3:11 pm 


Old Coot

And Peej… I don’t know what fight YOU saw… But Khan took it to Maidana, and landed twice as many punches despite that Maidana threw more… Floyd just tried to survive.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:11 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot will say anything to defend Pac. Who is he fighting again? Exactly

Posted July 21, 2014 3:11 pm 


eric

Floyd will force maidona to wear beanbags rather than gloves, wear flip flops and a straight jacket or refuse to dance.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:10 pm 


Old Coot

SREDMOND will also say anything to defend Floyd’s BS too!

Posted July 21, 2014 3:07 pm 


SREDMOND

Fight Aficionado, what does his woman beating have to do with his boxing? Unless the guys he has been WHUPPING are also women? Your FALSE morality is repugnant and fails to hide your desire to see the Top Pugilist in the sport fall…

Posted July 21, 2014 3:07 pm 


SREDMOND

Dieuretics are most commonly used to MAKE weight because their principle function is that they make you pass water at a rapid rate… Again I could care less if Je Leon Love was smoking crack and killing hookers his name is NOT Floyd Mayweather and the FACT is that Money May is the KING of the sport and until he loses or retires its gonna stay that way… I know this feels like a COLD pecker slapping you in the face but it is what it is…. Sorry!

Posted July 21, 2014 3:05 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“I’m not familiar with Deadspin, and have never seen them represented in a Boxing media room; so that’s a dead giveaway that their sources probably have limited facts, as well.” – Ironically, Vivek trying to poke holes in Deadspin’s reporting proves Deadspins’ premise that 1. Floyd is a serial woman beater. 2. Boxing reporters have brushed this under the rug. Deadspin is well known in mainstream media circles as a credible publication. They report facts, not propaganda spread by boxing camps’ PR hacks.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:04 pm 


Old Coot

Peej obviously will say anything to defend Floyd’s overrated ass.

Posted July 21, 2014 3:04 pm 


SREDMOND

Khan was disrespected as possible Mayweather opponent because he spends at least a few rounds of every fight down or HURT… He has talent but he is NEVER going to be an Elite fighter…Your attempt to position him above Mayweather due to the Maidana bout brands you a SERIOUS fool… Khan was slaughted in 2 rounds by a nobody in Prescott and Garcia made him name knocking him senseless… Mayweather is an ATG and HOFer, Khan is a guy that is getting his rocks off because he beat Luis Collazo…

Posted July 21, 2014 3:03 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot obviously doesn’t actually watch the fights. Madaina yes was knocked down but he was also close to stopping Khan. And the score cards were also close. So not to sure what fight you watched saying he defeated him easier. And if they were to rematch, something Khan did not want to do then I would bet Madaina would KO Khan

Posted July 21, 2014 2:55 pm 


Boxtradamus

Who cares what Floyd has done in the past. He is the present and the future. I love Floyd with all my heart and soul and want to thank him in every way possible for what he has done to my bank account with all the winning bets.

Posted July 21, 2014 2:54 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

With rabbit punching behind the head and pad-less gloves; I’m sure he could have won if allowed to wear those gloves…

Posted July 21, 2014 2:05 pm 


Papo

Zuks said, “@Papo: Oh please just shut up talking about what arguments Maidana could bring. He could have KOed Floyd? Is something hard down there? Who do you think has ever KOed Mayweather?”

I didn’t say he could KO Floyd. What I said is if Floyd can make the excuse that “since Maidana felt he won the first fight, he should be able to do it again with the same gloves”, then Maidana could also argue that he would’ve ko Floyd if he was wearing his type of gloves.

Posted July 21, 2014 1:45 pm 


Old Coot

@ SREDMOND: HAAAH!!… Sorry partnah, but Khan knocked down and defeated Maidana, (without running) MUCH easier than your hero, Mayrunner did!… If Floyd even beat Maidana in the first place… And that is one reason Floyd ducks Khan. So yeah… Compared to Floyd, Khan IS a superfighter.

Posted July 21, 2014 1:43 pm 


CJ

I’ll swing by later to see what you have to say in defence of all that.

Posted July 21, 2014 1:43 pm 


CJ

I already told you which fight he wore them in.

Why don’t you tell me why diuretics aren’t PEDs?

How they’re not commonly used as masking agents for steroids?

Why Love and Bey are not PED cheaters?

Why it’s not hypocritical for FMJ to have convicted PED cheaters in his stable when he’s supposed to clean up the entire sport from PEDs so all fighters are competing on a even keel?

Why you have no standards or integrity?

Why FMJ is too afraid to fight a limited puncher while he’s wearing the exact same brand of gloves that he wore when Devon Alexander shut him out?

How not allowing an opponent to wear a perfectly legal pair of commission approved gloves is not a punk move?

Tell me how many of Maidana’s other opponents were too afraid to let him wear those gloves?

Why you defend FJM’s raving hypocrisy regarding PEDs, gloves, and catchweights and refuse to criticize it?

Posted July 21, 2014 1:42 pm 


PEEJ

Ducking Khan, that is ridiculous. As for Pac, so are you saying it is ok for Top Rank to not fight other fighters at 147 cause they are signed with Haymon? That is the same thing Floyd says, he does not want to work with Arum. But that is ok for Arum to do it but not Floyd?

Posted July 21, 2014 1:42 pm 


EZ E

ZUKS With all due respects, yes, Floyd’s the A-side. He will stack all the cards he possibly can in his favor, as others have in the past, cool. He’s won that right. The size of the ring, weights, purse… all by CONTRACT. As for the gloves issue, it WASN’T stipulated in the contract. They were LEGAL in every way according to the NSAC. The SAME gloves type were used in Las Vegas on a fight card the DAY BEFORE. The commission is suppose to enforce THEIR laws & not permit the A-side fighter to decide. But sadly, as in other cases we’ve seenin our beloved sport, rules are made to be broken. Now we’re not dumb and it was about the NSAC $$ cut, Maidana wanting to get paid and blah blah blah.. Would’ve Floyd actually pulled out? It’s obvious that all the parties involved wanted the fight to go on for reasons that are equally obvious. But.. the truth is that is was sort of a slick (puzzy?) move that Floyd

Posted July 21, 2014 1:40 pm 


SREDMOND

HaHaHaHa “Khan a Superfighter” who got KOed how many times? Manny an ATG who is still recovering from that Marquez KO…. Both guys stopped by fighters who would have NO chance against Mayweather ie Marquez, Bredis Prescott, Danny Garcia, Torrecampo and Singsurat… Cotto did GREAT against Floyd, he won 3 rounds !!! At the end of the day Mayweather’s success continues uninterrupted in the manner we see these others boxers dusted in…

Posted July 21, 2014 1:36 pm 


Old Coot

@ Thurmal Underwear: Thanks for the co-sign on ESB… However, as for Floyd “staying in the Pocket” Yeah right… Floyd only stays in the pocket against fighters with lead feet like Guerrero and Alvarez, who couldn’t get to Floyd with rocket boots on… Againts real fighters like Cotto and Maidana, he ran to the ropes and got bloodied. And against super fighters like Pac and Khan, he ducks altogether! LOL!

Posted July 21, 2014 1:28 pm 


SREDMOND

CJ, again are Floyd Mayweather and J’Leon Love the same fighter? and if you are so sure you should be able to tell us what fight this occurred in? Just curious…. AGAIN Mayweather has reached the point in his career where he has leverage… Maidana should be so lucky, even Cotto had to concede to Manny and Floyd because he was the LESSOR draw… Meanwhile Maidana brings a good story but no independent drawing power… Why not send Maidana a letter telling him to teach the evil FMJ a lesson and pull out of the fight? Yeah right that ain’t happening!

Posted July 21, 2014 1:23 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

PEEJ

Floyd runs, that is funny. Floyd stays in the pocket and makes you miss then counters. Lara is what you could call a runner.
Posted July 21, 2014 12:54 pm

^cosign.

Posted July 21, 2014 1:20 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Old Coot

HEY ESB: I know I shouldn’t complain because your thread is free, but, what’s with the auto-cencorship?
Posted July 21, 2014 1:07 pm

^Great question.

Posted July 21, 2014 1:19 pm 


Old Coot

CJ: Who’s ever seen a so-called ATG, make so many gratuitous demands?! LOL! JUST MAYRUNNER!!

Posted July 21, 2014 1:17 pm 


CJ

I am sure about J’Leon Love wearing those gloves.

I’m also sure that Devon Alexander schooled Maidana while he was wearing that brand of glove. FMJ’s too afraid to fight afraid yo fight the same Maidana Alexander made look like a fool.

How in god’s name is allowing Maidana to wear a perfectly legal set of commission approved gloves a fast one?

You make no sense. You’re defending a straight up punk move by your idol because you have no standards or integrity.

Posted July 21, 2014 1:14 pm 


Old Coot

Plus, Floyd only fights in Vegas, the only place he can legally shoot-up his hands.

Posted July 21, 2014 1:10 pm 


Old Coot

CJ: Hell, Floyd himself failed 3 tests then had USADA cover it up.

Posted July 21, 2014 1:08 pm 


Old Coot

HEY ESB: I know I shouldn’t complain because your thread is free, but, what’s with the auto-cencorship?

Posted July 21, 2014 1:07 pm 


CJ

FMJ wants to clean up the sport but members of his own stable are PED cheaters?

What about his stance on fighting catchweights? It’s just as inconsistent as his stance on PEDs and gloves.

Defending this kind of hypocrisy only makes you look a desperate fan boy who has no standards or integrity. THat’s another moral of this story.

Posted July 21, 2014 1:04 pm 


Old Coot

Zuks: LOL! Trying to justify Floyd’s BS.

Posted July 21, 2014 1:03 pm 


SREDMOND

CJ, you are NOT even sure about this glove thing and again J Leon Love is NOT Maidana… Its Floyds job to protect his OWN interests when in the ring… Nope Mayweather is SMART and he is not letting his opponents pull any fast ones because he is the BOSS… Sooner you accept this the sooner we can get you off that ledge HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted July 21, 2014 1:02 pm 


SREDMOND

CJ, Mayweather makes discussing him EASY because he wins and wins and wins…The best man WINS on fight night and all other factors become moot to me… That’s why I really don’t give a damn about guys depressions, issues with family, making weight etc… Once that bell rings its all about who prevails in the end…46 times with no hiccup FMJ’s hand has been raised… Its a SLAM DUNK every time Man!!! Holla

Posted July 21, 2014 1:01 pm 


CJ

What do you mean who cares? You obviously care if FMJ looks like a massive hypocrite and a coward otherwise you wouldn’t be defending him so rigorously?

Posted July 21, 2014 12:59 pm 


Vicki

CJ

Please excuse my brother Sredmond. He’s g@y, but hasn’t come out yet….. He loves Floyd.

Posted July 21, 2014 12:59 pm 


CJ

He wore them for his last fight if I’m not mistaken.

Dieuretic’s are PEDs. They’re also commonly used as a masking agent to disguise steroids too.

What about Mickey Bey? Was he not using PEDs?

Posted July 21, 2014 12:57 pm 


Sredmond

Ahhh I just had an org@sm…………

Posted July 21, 2014 12:55 pm 


CJ

Moral to the story is that FMJ objects to a limited puncher wearing a perfectly legal set of commission approved gloves that other much lesser fighters easily defeated while he was wearing the exact same brand of gloves.

Posted July 21, 2014 12:55 pm 


SREDMOND

When did Love wear the gloves??? Love was caught using a dieuretic for weight loss… illegal but NOT a PED… That said WHO CARES he is NOT Floyd Mayweather! is Floyd responsible if his cut man bangs a hooker too??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted July 21, 2014 12:54 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd runs, that is funny. Floyd stays in the pocket and makes you miss then counters. Lara is what you could call a runner.

Posted July 21, 2014 12:54 pm 


SREDMOND

CJ, I disagree 100% Mayweather is getting in the ring with a guy that many think was his toughest fight IMMEDIATELY he looks the EXACT opposite of a coward… Your childish notion that Maidana has no hope without these gloves makes me LAUGH and again you say that Mayweather has fought others with them, and his team fights with them YET you provide no examples or fights to support your points??? Mayweather looksl like the FARTHEST thing from a “Punk” he is a man of his word… He told Maidana that “we can do it again if he thinks he won” well guess what they are “doing it again” WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Boss Move! Mayweather gets a TON of credit from those who really matter not piss ant posters on ESB who are so angry with him for dominating they cannot see straight… He is the Ring Champ in 2 weight classes, P4P #1, highest paid in boxing history (Shall I continue) winner of the ESPY award in boxing AGAIN… There is no shortage of cred for Money May and seeing you drooling with envy and rage is pretty funny!

Posted July 21, 2014 12:53 pm 


CJ

J’Leon Love for one wears them.

J’Leon Love the PED cheater.

Everyone knows FMJ’s stance on PEDs, it’s just as inconsistent as his stance on gloves.

He wants to clean up the sport but he can’t even clean up his own stable.

Posted July 21, 2014 12:51 pm 


CJ

It’s not whining. FMJ pulling this move makes him look like a cowardly punk.

You’re the biggest whiner on here. You’re always crying and complaining that he doesn’t get enough credit.

The criticism pains you to such an extent that you devote almost all of the considerable amount of the time you spend on here to trying to combat it.

When FMJ pulls punk moves like this it makes him look like a damn coward.

Maidana is a limited puncher and he’s been easily defeated by much lesser talents but FMJ is too afraid to let him wear a perfectly legal set of gloves.

You should be mad at him for pulling a punk move like this. He’s the one whose making your job so difficult for you. But you’ll defend his every move like a love struck fan boy and then scratch your head wondering why nobody will take you seriously.

Posted July 21, 2014 12:46 pm 


hecubus

Author – HE PLEAD GUITLY NUMB NUTS!! there’s no “face” to look for. When you plead guilty, you are knowingly declaring to the court (and the public at large) that yes, “I committed the crimes that i am being tried for”

Posted July 21, 2014 12:46 pm 


SREDMOND

CJ, Moral to the story is that Mayweather objects to Maidana wearing them and as the A side and the guy who brings all the cache he has the leverage to control the scenario… You claim other opponents have worn them, which opponents were these and what fight? Do you have photos? just curious… NONE of it matters because Maidana will NOT be wearing them HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted July 21, 2014 12:39 pm 


SREDMOND

Who cares what members of Floyds stable wear? Last time I checked they were NOT fighting him Maidana was… And which of his team members use them and for what fights?

Posted July 21, 2014 12:37 pm 


CJ

Why did FMJ allow other opponents of his to wear the same gloves if he’s worried about a lack of padding?

Why doesn’t he kick up a hot fuss about members of his own stable wearing them?

Why aren’t all these other fighters worried about their opponents wearing those gloves, gloves which are legal and commission approved?

Posted July 21, 2014 12:37 pm 


OLE TIMER

Duck is in big trouble. People are finding out that he has made a name for hisself by running, not punching. Maidana knows Ducks Achilles heel which is stay on top of him and fire every punch in the book. “DON’T LET HIM BREATH” Look for an upset fight night.

Posted July 21, 2014 12:36 pm 


SREDMOND

Whine, Whine, Whine “magic gloves” only exist for DUMMIES again why is there ONLY one pair of gloves that Maidana can win in? He will be using 8 oz gloves and if he lands right Floyds gonna feel it or be badly hurt… This is just more whimpering when the onus is on Chino to get the job done…CJ being a jailhouse lawyer trying to get Maidana his gloves really makes me laugh, Mayweather went thru this and won so have COUNTLESS other boxers NOW its time for Maidana to make it happen… And despite your vain protests Marcos is gonna NOT wear those gloves and he will take the $$$$ this is life… ACCEPT it…

Posted July 21, 2014 12:33 pm 


CJ

The gloves in question we’re talking about are the exact same brand of gloves members of FMJ’s stable wear.

The exact same gloves which former opponents of his have worn when they fought him.

A perfectly legal set of gloves that are approved by the commission.

FMJ’s not worried about anything but Maidana’s power. It’s a punk move on his part and no one should be defending him here.

Posted July 21, 2014 12:32 pm 


CJ

Are you talking to me?

If you are, I’ll counter that with the only nonsense I’m seeing here FMJ’s pulling another punk move because he’s too afraid to step between the ropes against a limited puncher who has been easily defeated by far lesser talents whilst wearing the exact same brand of gloves.

Defending this punk ass move by him is just lame.

Posted July 21, 2014 12:28 pm 


Dino

The race comments are not needed, stick to boxing. Anyway, I just hope Floyd makes it a good fight and not run or hold all night. He has the talent so he should do what he says, give the fans what they want.

Posted July 21, 2014 12:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Mayweather is the BOSS and if he feels Maidanas gloves have insufficient padding then he objected… He has been subject to the same scrutiny when he was coming up against Oscar… Maidana certainly has the right to back out of the deal if he simply cannot box absent these gloves.. BUT the reality is that he will train and get ready in some approved gloves and collect his millions… He ain’t stupid

Posted July 21, 2014 12:22 pm 


Zuks

Mxim write all the nonsense you want about Maidana’s gloves, he is not gonna wear them….

Posted July 21, 2014 12:20 pm 


CJ

The gloves are a big issue. FMJ obviously wouldn’t be so adamant about not letting Maidana wear them if he wasn’t seriously concerned about it.

He doesn’t want Maidana to wear puncher’s gloves because he knows that all Maidana brings to the dance is power and durability.

These are gloves that members of his own stable wear for goodness sake.

Gloves that previous opponents of his have worn when they fought him.

And most importantly, they are gloves which are approved by every boxing commission.

This is just another instance of FMJ trying to handicap one of his opponents again instead of taking them on at full strength.

Devon Alexander wasn’t afraid of fighting a Maidana that was wearing puncher’s gloves. He just got on with the job and gave him a good old-fashioned boxing lesson.

How many other of Maidana’s opponents refused to fight him unless he wore different gloves?

Alexander shut Maidana out on the cards while he was wearing those gloves, why is ‘TBE’ FMJ so reluctant to fight the same Maidana Alexander made look like a two fight novice while wearing puncher’s gloves?

The blueprint to beating Maidana has been formulated and implemented a number of times by far lesser talents than FMJ so why is he trying to handicap him from wearing a perfectly legal set of gloves which are approved by the commission?

It’s only Marcos Maidana, FMJ’s carrying on like he’s fighting a prime George Foreman.

Posted July 21, 2014 12:10 pm 


SREDMOND

Adrian, I don’t begrudge Maidana his body mass but the FACT is that he enjoys a healthy size advantage come fight night.. He has been at 147 for a few fights and stopped Soto Karass who had a solid chin at 154…..AGAIN if Mayweather had 15 pounds on an opponent you would be weeping in your mothers arms but you dimiss EVERY positive for his opposition and cry that that Floyd is not doing everything in his power to make them comfortable including losing the actual fight..

Posted July 21, 2014 11:58 am 


Anonymous

How you negros doing?

Posted July 21, 2014 11:57 am 


SREDMOND

Canelo had ALL physical advantages the night they fought 15 pounds of muscle, plus 13 years younger I have NO sympathy for Alvarez who was technically just outdone by a superior fighter… Alvarez had blasted out a few WW fighters coming up (Lopez, Gomez) with no issues while getting down to SMW the fact that Mayweather dusted him just shows Floyd is a SUPERIOR pugilist despite your TON of excuses to explain why guys cannot conquer this aging fighter… Your shame should be evident you have the constitution of a female to be honest.

Posted July 21, 2014 11:34 am 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

SMH…

Posted July 21, 2014 11:34 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, Maidana is a World Class puncher and a HARD night for everyone he NEVER lost to Morales and he defeated Broner and took his 0 in a major upset and exciting fight that set him up for the payday… He proved he was NO chump by stepping into the ring and going Caveman on FMJ for 12 rounds despite losing… AGAIN your whining is PATHETIC when you have OPENLY supported Pacquiaos MANY concessions he has asked of fighters… Face it your hatred of Mayweather has netted you nothing but frustration and a lot of EGG on your face…

Posted July 21, 2014 11:31 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, Mayweather is NOT “demanding the glove size” you are simply either lying or inaccurate… The gloves will be 8oz because this is a WW fight, the actual brand is what is in question and again Mayweather is the OLDER, physically smaller fighter Maidana has PLENTY to work with in order to win EXCEPT his skillset is not the same as Mayweathers.

Posted July 21, 2014 11:29 am 


Adrian

And also we are talking about Maidana here lol the guy who was beaten by a comeback fat morales for god sake and who also lost to khan and was schooled by Alexander and who suppose to be punching bag for mayweather …lol really and now with Maidana mayweather has to demand stuff??? Really …. Lol

Posted July 21, 2014 11:26 am 


Adrian

Sredmond said
“Serial WHINERS like Adrian refuse to acknowledge the advantages and opportunities Mayweather affords his opponents… “.
HahahahahahHHa
Spin doctor as usual…

And how is he “affording advantage “to Maidana here???
He is demanding the glove size here , and you say Maidana came 12 pounds heavier ? Lol Maidana just recently moved to 147 pounds devision and no one stops mayweather to come in heavier at fight night , then he made Canelo drop 2 pounds to fight him at catch weight and you call this bs an advantage for their opponents ?? Lol what planet do you live you obvious spin doctor !

Posted July 21, 2014 11:22 am 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Boxing fans are the BIGGEST HYPOCRITES and IDIOTS I have ever witnessed in my life….The fighter is who is the DRAW has ALWAYS had agreement leverage since the beginning of time; but because it’s Mayweather you guys want to act like this is something new and act like he is some criminal or unethical because of it…GTFOH……

Posted July 21, 2014 10:58 am 


Zuks

@Rapid: Maidana should get the commission involved? He can go ahead and lets see where will that take him. And while you are still in a bad dream, get the commission to fight for him in the ring.

It’s not gonna happen, commission or no commission, Maidana will simply lose his second chance if he doesn’t want to listen to Mayweather and suckers like you won’t pay his purse. So knowing, looking for another huge payday, he is gonna wear whatever gloves Floyd tells him to, end of discussion.

Posted July 21, 2014 10:55 am 


Brazilian Boxing Fan to Mr. Vivek Wallace

Magnificent, as always. Congratulations.

Posted July 21, 2014 10:53 am 


Zuks

@Papo: Oh please just shut up talking about what arguments Maidana could bring. He could have KOed Floyd? Is something hard down there? Who do you think has ever KOed Mayweather?

Posted July 21, 2014 10:50 am 


Tinker bell

Vivek answered these questions like a wimp. Gutless.

Posted July 21, 2014 10:28 am 


SREDMOND

Rapid, Oscar controlled Floyds gloves and guess what? he still LOST!! Again I did not see the glove or the objections to them but Maidana has the chance to defeat Mayweather using 8oz boxing gloves if hes not up to the task then he should pull out of the bout!!

Posted July 21, 2014 10:19 am 


SREDMOND

Rapid, its Floyds show NATURALLY he is gonna have the leverage.. Maidana can take a stand like Cotto did second time with Pacquiao and say NO I am not gonna fight you below 154… No one has a gun to his head, if he thinks he cannot win without his “magic gloves” then tell him to rematch Alexander for $600k

Posted July 21, 2014 10:03 am 


SREDMOND

Rapid, Maidana can “stand firm” and lose MILLIONS of dollars he will NEVER make again… the NSAC cannot force this fight and they seem to have rejected the first pair of MX gloves that Maidana trotted out while allowing the second pair… Of course the A side fighter is gonna have demands that’s boxing its the B side fighters job to WIN and become the A side boxer…

Posted July 21, 2014 10:01 am 


Rapid

Sredmond.. You state the obvious.. “What does MM bring to the table other than a crude style” Why should Floyd negotiate, I say the opposite, if he’s so crude, and lacking of skill, he has no chance right?? Who cares what Gloves he uses? cause he doesn’t have a chance right? Cause it’s all about skills right?? Floyd just likes to control everything is what it is.

Posted July 21, 2014 10:00 am 


Rapid

Again…. How is Floyd somehow above the NSAC on the glove issue?? Always something with this guy. If the gloves are legal, and you are the better boxer WTF is the problem?? Maidana should stand firm on this, get the commission involved. I would not let the other guy go above the powers that be… F that!

Posted July 21, 2014 9:56 am 


SREDMOND

Serial WHINERS like Adrian refuse to acknowledge the advantages and opportunities Mayweather affords his opponents… Maidana comes to the ring a minimum of 12 pounds heavier, he is younger and a bigger puncher, same for Canelo and Cotto… Its up to Marcos to dethrone Floyd Mayweather and take advantage of the opportunity that is why its called “a shot” Mayweather is NOT there to accommodate every request WHILE giving you the BIGGEST paydays of your career and a level of exposure you won’t get anywhere else… Canelo is one of the most popular boxers in the sport and he made what 3 mill after PPV against Lara? against FMJ its estimated he made 17 million dollars after PPV upside!!!!!! Me might NEVER earn that again in his career for one bout, Wlad only made that much ONE of 2x and he is the HW Champ for years… Maidana gets to wear 8 oz gloves and he is gonna have to make it count against a soon to be 38 year old boxer discussing retirement… I have NO sympathy for Maidana, either do or die, land the money punch or eat right hands.. His destiny is his own…

Posted July 21, 2014 9:46 am 


srminimo

Saying that Deadspin is not present at boxing media events and, therefore, cannot make an accurate piece, or get reliable information, about Floyd’s alleged criminal offenses is flawed logic. Police officers don’t have to be at a murder scene to piece together a crime. It’s ALMOST as bad as saying that Algieri has a fan friendly style…

Posted July 21, 2014 9:41 am 


SREDMOND

The gloves are NOT an issue, they are an excuse! 8 oz gloves no matter the brand used by a professional fighter are DANGEROUS… Guys get KOed in sparring using 16 OZ gloves.. If Maidana catches Floyd clean enough he (Floyd) will be in trouble! Maidana simply could not land the CLEAN headshots needed to get the job done, I never say Floyds head spin around from shots to the dome, it was glancing blows and punches coming from weird angles…If EVERY B side fighter had to get EVERYTHING their way in order to win then Upsets would NEVER happen… Spinks beat Ali, Rahman beat Lewis, 3 no name fighters beat Wlad, Buster Douglas beat Tyson… Maidana is getting his SECOND shot to get the job done and this is it UNLESS he pulls off the upset… So whimpering about gloves etc only takes his focus away from this REAL problem which is the boxing skill of Floyd Mayweather Jr….

Posted July 21, 2014 9:22 am 


Papo

According to Vivek, Floyd said, “Since Maidana felt he won the first fight, he should be able to do it again with the same gloves”.

Then Maidana could also argue that he could’ve been much more effective, and even KO Floyd, if he had worn his natural choice of gloves. There’s no question of Floyd’s greatness, but why does he need to make special requests that may weaken or have the apparent perception of weakening his opponents.

And Vivek, to respond to your comment, “Not exactly the words everyone wants to hear, but those are the ones that we’ll all have to accept”…I’ll say no, we don’t have to accept it. Most Floyd fans accept anything coming from him not matter what, but he’s getting paid by those same fans and they should demand the he fight his opponents in a level field. Whether he wants to oblige or not is his choice, but then fans should not buy those PPV events. Of course, we know that’ll never happen.

And please, stop your comments about Floyd being the most hated boxer as if he didn’t have anything to do with it. You can’t be or act as an ass and expect everyone to like you.

Posted July 21, 2014 9:19 am 


SREDMOND

Maidana is a SUPER B side fighter, like the article states Mayweather dealt with Oscars terms and Maidana is gonna have to deal with Floyds… Mayweather is literally giving Maidana the opportunity of a LIFETIME 2x, he is making millions he would not otherwise make, and he is being showcased against the MOST popular fighter of the generation 2x…If Maidana won he would instantly be in the history books… What does Maidana bring to the table for Floyd besides a crude style and headbutts?? Anyone thinking that Floyd is gonna negotiate with Maidana as an equal needs to get their heads examined..

Posted July 21, 2014 9:17 am 


Zuks

@Adrian, so you think Maidana should demand whatever he wants from a legend like Mayweather neh?

Posted July 21, 2014 8:40 am 


Adrian

If gloves are not the issue then why mayweAther has demands about them?

All those who know boxing know that having bigger gloves slow you down and is harder to get a ko with them … I understand when some of you say that mayweather has the leverage to demand here but please stop with the bs by saying gloves are not the issue because they are!!!!

Posted July 21, 2014 8:21 am 


Boxtradamus

I don’t care what Mayweather has done in the past. So long as I keep WINNING with his name he’ll continue to be my hero. So what if he smacks women around so long as he smacks men around too. He will win against Maidana. I am the GREATEST fight Prophet ever born!!!!!

Posted July 21, 2014 8:06 am 


Zuks

All those who are mentioning the gloves are looking for Mayweather vs Maidana III, lame excuse hoping to justify why Chino needs another payday and downgrading Mayweather’s victory.

Posted July 21, 2014 7:04 am 


Zuks

@Old Coot
Your justification concerning the gloves and attack on Vivek is BS X 100. A-side team always makes the demands that B-side has to adhere to, just like Oscar did to Floyd. Fools like you thought Maidana won, so there should be no whining about them gloves anymore. Floyd calls his way because he is the A-side dummie, same as Cotto who called everything against Martinez yet the latter was the Champ. Don’t be ignorant, sucker

Posted July 21, 2014 7:02 am 


Chicago. guy

Also sucker punch should be ban.

Posted July 21, 2014 6:31 am 


Chicago. guy

No shoulder rolling too.

Posted July 21, 2014 6:29 am 


Floyd Broner Jr.

2 billions on the table and Floyd & Haymon don’t talk anymore of the Clippers! busted!

Posted July 21, 2014 5:47 am 


OneInchPunch

Personally I would not be too concerned with the gloves issue… which really isn’t an issues but more of Maidana ruff-house tactics he showed in their first fight. I know boxing isn’t a feather tickling sport… but there are rules that on how the hurt business is played. Maidana clearly thinks he needed to use underhanded ruff-house tactics for an advantage. So getting a specific type of glove for the rematch that Mayweather did not need to agree too… is neither here nor there!!

Posted July 21, 2014 5:40 am 


Chicago. guy

Floyd always got the advantages every time he fight. Afraid of losing his zero record of fighting fair and square.

Posted July 21, 2014 5:28 am 


Old Coot

Never seen a fighter where EVERY FIGHT happening, is contingent upon some favorable condition!

Posted July 21, 2014 5:07 am 


Old Coot

@ Vivek: Your glove angle is utter BS!! If Maidana’s usual gloves are legal, then wearing them is MAIDANA’S call, NOT FLOYD’S!!… PERIOD!! Floyd should not cry about it, trying condition that Marcos wear softer gloves… After all a lot of people felt Maidana won the first time anyhow, so why does Floyd always get the “call” his way, simply because he has a questionable zero?… That is what you call some TOTALLY OBVIOUS BS!!

Posted July 21, 2014 5:00 am 


Old Coot

HAAAH!! I said Floyd would bring up the gloves last week!! And I’ll guarantee ya’ he will pull a Morales and cry about Pacquiao wearing his normal Reyes Gloves too, that is if Floyd ever mans-up and fights him… TOO PREDICTABLE!!

Posted July 21, 2014 4:53 am 


If u dont lyk my comment, F U!!!

Rigo, just keep using your headbutt as a setup punch, and youll be alright…

Posted July 21, 2014 2:16 am 


A lot of esb posters

Let me make a comment about Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s domestic violence charge so I can feel better about myself.

Posted July 21, 2014 1:59 am 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Excellent article Vivek……..

Posted July 21, 2014 1:45 am 


Adrian

Uh …. Yeah mayweather wasn’t the first to ” Invent” the catch weight but did it and criticized paqiao for doing that before he did , now it’s gloves ….

Stop making escusses for mayweather always by saying ” others” did it just say the facts,mayweather is taking the advantage that’s all….

Posted July 21, 2014 1:41 am 


Road

Why blah blah blah us w your hypocritical confusing PBFMMW take…practice the refraining u speak of that u hold yourself to “allegedly” an STFU on the topic instead of weakly saying what u want by prefacing u don’t want to say it….be real!!

Posted July 21, 2014 12:13 am 


Boxtradamus

Rigo WON by Old MAN SPANKING stoppage just as I predicted! !!!!!!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted July 21, 2014 12:08 am 



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