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Chauncy

Haha. This’ really me. I’m good with the trash talkers. They keep the game alive. I’ve had a lot come my way for sure, some deserved, some not. I rolled the dice with my career and had fun. For an ugly white kid from nowhere and zero athletic ability, I made it far in the game I love. Haha.
Thank you for your kind remarks bro.

Posted October 24, 2012 5:31 am 


the voice of reason

That really you chauncy welliver? if it is, i would like to apologize to you for all the moronic s*** talkers on here who throw disrespectful comments your way. 99% of these jokers have never boxed in their lives but they still have their ‘opinions’ right? good luck for the future man.

Posted October 24, 2012 5:01 am 


Chauncy

Having just fought Williams and currently sparring Helenius, I like the match up as its a solid test on Roberts shoulder and 1 year layoff. I think Robert stops him late but gets some useful rounds out of Sherman then goes for the big boys.
I’m glad Sherman gets a money fight.

Posted October 23, 2012 1:39 pm 


the voice of reason

You gotta give it to this guy helenius – he doesnt take the easy route. Peter, liakovich, brewster – now this guy – a real f****** handful. Full credit to robert helenius

Posted October 23, 2012 12:15 pm 


huckster

Gerber reminds me too much of Schulz.

Posted October 23, 2012 10:56 am 


huckster

Adamek-Pulev 2013

Posted October 23, 2012 10:40 am 


Fidel

Fury vs Helenius next year sounds good. Fury would probably lead on the score cards but later on Helenius would knock him cold. Fury doesn´t have the chin or the power to make it to the top.

Posted October 23, 2012 9:07 am 


Carter

Fury vs. Helenius late next year would be an exciting match up. But no one should forget “the dark horse” Edmund Gerber, who keeps fighting and winning without all the fanfare.

Posted October 23, 2012 8:57 am 


Poli

Pulеv fight nеxt with, Аdаmеk- Uss’ winnеr
IВF-sауs thаt!

Posted October 23, 2012 8:03 am 


huckster

The best on the new market is Pulev. He is a big 6’4″ boxer. He can bang. He can box. He has good amatuer pedigree. His resume is second to none for all new comers. A great fight would be definitely Haye-Pulev. Haye-Pulev 2013. The natural flow of things should be helenius-fury. They, both, beat Chisora. Given Helenius got a “gift”, Fury should be jumping on that payday.

Posted October 23, 2012 6:55 am 


huckster

Helenius record is good as it gets for a guy who has only been in the business for 4 years minus one. He got a gift. Maybe Chisora got a gift. A healthy Helenius might have knocked Chisora out. Who knows. Chisora would have been two
cheques less. Helenius will retire Tank.

Posted October 23, 2012 6:44 am 


?

helenius is a joke fraud.

Posted October 23, 2012 2:23 am 


Victor

Tank hangs tough on this one going the distance. Punchem in the back tank haha cripple this giant mofo.

Posted October 23, 2012 1:31 am 


AD

Helenius team have been smart with their matchmaking in the past and taken educated risks. It is a good resume for 17 fights no doubt, though it’s still hard to get a precise handle on how good he is.
Brewster was a good name for the 2010 fight because of the Wlad and Golota fights, but when you trek back to Brewsters last meaningful win before that it was five years earlier in 2005 vs Golota, and since that point he lost 3 of 5, had eye surgey and only fought once a year dropping a decision to a nobody in the fight before Helenius.
The Peter win was another good name, but again this was offset somewhat – partly by Peters ridiculous weight, and partly because Peter hadn`t actually won a meaningful fight since Maskaev 3 years earlier, and had been through the ringer in the meantime with both Klitschkos bludgeoning him.
Liakhovich was another nice name, but again – his last meaningful win was in 2006 outpointing Brewster, and after that he lost to Valuev & Briggs before Helenius got to him.

They are still very good wins for a prospect positioning himself in the top 10 and learning his trade, they they are all at least 3 years too late to position someone as the heir apparent to the K-Bros.

It will be the fight AFTER he beats Williams that will be more interesting.

Posted October 22, 2012 10:09 pm 


prideofvirginiabeach

At least I’ve heard of Sherman. I never even heard of that Jaro guy or anyone that nobody ever got in the ring with either. Helenius could be something if he stopped coming in out of shape with stubble. Damn, he looked like Karl Hungus from The Big Lebowski when he went in there and got gifted against Chisora.

Posted October 22, 2012 9:01 pm 


UJelly?

In Helenius’ defence, he’s been out for a long time, so expecting him to go in against a top contender immediately is stupid.
And anyone questioning his resume is just being a hater. In 17 fights, he’s got 3 ex-world champs (albeit washed up ones)… not bad progress by any means.

I’d be interested in a Chisora rematch after this fight. Helenius seemed uncharacteristically tentative in their fight (I scored it closely for Chisora)… there was the impression (and later reports) that Helenius was injured through most of the fight. He was just uncharacteristically tentative and let openings go by without a punch (or he’d land shots and then not capitalize)… not behaviours that had ever really shown in Helenius’ previous matches.

Posted October 22, 2012 8:53 pm 


Tony1244

Helenius couldn’t beat Chisora. Let’s see what he can do against The Tank. Tank Williams made Holy quit and beat nonentity Welliver. Why not give a good guy like Williams a nice payday?

Posted October 22, 2012 7:33 pm 


christov

Tark,bang on my friend,Pulev vs Haye would be well worth watching.This is what we need more of:competitive matchmaking.It’s no wonder we have no idea who’s going to replace Wlad when he’s gone,as most of these pretenders don’t want to test themselves at the highest level,so you get the likes of Wilder,who with 125 pro fights(ok,i’m exagerrating a little..)should be looking to move for a title shot,but because he’s feasted on a string of out of shape cab drivers on 2 weeks notice,we have no idea how good he is.And nor does he.It’s nuts.I think the heavyweight division needs a super 6 style tournament so these guys have to face each other,and the winner gets a shot at Wlad.maybe even have the fights as 8 rounders so they can squeeze the tourney into a 12 month period.As my mum would say..”they need a stick of dynamite uo their arse…”

Posted October 22, 2012 3:56 pm 


RAY GORDON REID

HELENIUS – 3.47PM 10/22/12

Posted October 22, 2012 3:46 pm 


Poli sауs:

Wlаd will kick pulеv in thе аss

Posted October 22, 2012 3:03 pm 


TARK

Sherman Williams, the conqueror of Chauncy Welliver…I can’t believe it. This is a non-fight against a check picker-upper.. Gee Whiz, please don’t show this on EPIX after you televised the Povetkin-Rahman farce. What a waste of satellite transmission, do you want to destroy the sport??? Maybe after this sparring session we can finally see Helenius-Dimitrenko and you can televise that awkward but competitive fist fight between 2 swinging giants. It won’t be boxing. How about a real boxing match at some point??? Pulev vs Haye.

Posted October 22, 2012 2:48 pm 


christov

What a joke.Who’s up next,Ray Mercer? What is wrong with theDNA of today’s prospects? They just seem to want to build their career on sure bets and feast on shopworn,past their sell by date but recognisable names.The truth is,Chisora was the first decent,live fighter helenius has faced.And he got exposed badly.I’ve no interest in watching a fight like this,either helenius has had his confidence wobbled big time,or his handlers still haven’t helped him make the improvements he needs.He’ll always be able to take care of most short plodders like peter etc,but as soon as he faces someone athletic like Haye or an accurate power punching equally big guy like Wlad or Price,he’ll get smoked.I hope he can improve,he’s got some good fundamentals coupled with a decent set of whiskers and more than decent power,but most all,he has usually displayed great patience,a rare attribute.But let’s step it up and put him with Pulev,Solis,Fury,Wilder,Mitchell etc….these guys should be wanting to mix it up with each other and want to prove who’s the heir apparent to Wlad.Only Pulev seems to show that trait right now.

Posted October 22, 2012 2:40 pm 


OP AMP

Bad choice for a comeback fight for him. Tank is going to make him work Hard for 12 full rounds. With the injury he sustained, he should have took someone he could have taken out in five or six. No sense in risking RE-injuring the shoulder any more then he has to.

Posted October 22, 2012 2:33 pm 


dwc

Gumboot…100% AGREED.Helenius looked on the fast track before the Chisora fight…now there are some ?.

Posted October 22, 2012 1:37 pm 


LeftHook

@Lenin

you’re right, Chisora deserves a rematch.
It was a clear hometown decision robbery.

They should fight in UK.

Posted October 22, 2012 1:22 pm 


Gumboot

@Swede BF: Point one: Helenius has to prove some stuff after his dubious win over Chisora. Williams is a good re-entry level fight after injury but I would expect to se a much better opponent two fights after that. Re your cooment about Welliver…LMFAO! Welliver wasn’t ever and never will be anything morer that a carefuly managed joke. ‘Top contender”? OH FFS get friggin real!

Posted October 22, 2012 12:34 pm 


Lenin

Good fight to lose the ring rust. Nevertheless, I cannot forget how Chisora was robbed vs. Helenius. Don’t get me wrong, Helenius is a good hw boxer with a great future, but he lost vs. Delboy. There should be rematch in a neutral country (maybe the US) later next year.

Posted October 22, 2012 12:07 pm 


Bill Patrice Jones

I hope Helenius can overcome all his injury problems are return to being the fighter he was in 2010/2011. I mean I personally think that David Price is a better prospect, but his record just pales in comparison with Helenius’. As far as I’m concerned Robert has displayed the single two most important attributes a heavyweight needs: Punch power, and punch resistance. Believe me you CAN hit when your blasting away Brewster, and you can HIT BIG if your knocking out Samuel Peter cold. Only time I’ve ever seen Helenius wobbled was in the fifth round of his fight with Peter and he recovered quite quickly. I thought he looked ‘off’ in his fight with Chisora. Let him work on his speed, and more importantly controlling distance with his jab and he will be a hard man to beat.

Posted October 22, 2012 11:19 am 


Trevor

What a joke !!! Sherman Williams is my old gym teacher.LMAO !!! So you know Helenius has got no business fighting my old seventh-grade gym teacher. Mr. Williams ain`t suppose to still be boxing.Helenius and Price can`t pick up the phone and talk and say,Let`s fight , but they can call 100 year-old Skeleton(Skelton) and gym teacher Williams and arrange a fight.LMAO !!!

Posted October 22, 2012 10:45 am 


DeepDeep

Chisora was offered this fight after Rosberg quit. He didn’t wanna face Helenius after such a short notice (3 weeks) This according to Helenius father Karl.

Posted October 22, 2012 8:34 am 


Daly jr

Marmalizer…………….. I wouldnt put Towers in the same league as any of those guys. Hes had to climb up off the floor about 10 times already, and hes won via robbery more than once

Posted October 22, 2012 8:21 am 


huckster

Tank should give him some rounds. Helenius to retire Tank.

Posted October 22, 2012 8:16 am 


Poli sауs:

Prаicе thе nеxt world
chаmpion

Posted October 22, 2012 7:52 am 


Neil (pomy)

Looks like the Chisora robbery has resulted in Helenius dropping the level of opporsition.

Posted October 22, 2012 7:33 am 


Mick the Marmalizer

There’s some promising talent in the H/W division in Europe right now. Helinius, Povetkin, Pianeta, Pulev, Wawrzyk & Boytsov are all on the hunt. Then add British guy’s like Price, Fury & Towers & things look quite promising.

Posted October 22, 2012 7:28 am 


chitownfightfan

Decent comeback fight. Kindof glad it wasn’t that Rosberg can. But at the same time, Tank aint been stopped yet has he. I think Helenius team is overestimating his shoulder. He might have wanted a softer chin to crack in his first fight back. He should win going away, but how many rds does he need to test this thing out. Shoulda been a 6 rd fight if it was gonna be against an iron chin like WIlliams.

Posted October 22, 2012 7:14 am 


Swedish Boxing Fan

This will be an interesting tune-up fight for undefeated European heavyweight champion Robert Helenius. Sherman “The Tank” Williams is a good test for him and Williams is a good ring warrior and will pressure Helenius early so he will need to work hard to win. Williams comes from a victory against 29 year old top contender Chauncy Welliver (53-6-5 KO’s 20) and I belive Williams is hungry for more. He have been in the ring with the likes of Evander Holyfield, Ruslan Chagaev, Alfred “Ice” Cole, Jameel McCline, Manuel Charr, Sullivan, Tye Fields and more so he haves an ring expearence enough to put on a challange for Helenius.

Posted October 22, 2012 6:35 am 


Denno

Chisora needs a break, followed by a few tune up fights if a Helenius rematch is to mean anything.

Posted October 22, 2012 6:18 am 


Daly jr

i like what theyre doing with helenius. After this one they should match him with chisora again

Posted October 22, 2012 6:13 am 


knowall

Good match up this one. Tough fight for comeback

Posted October 22, 2012 5:36 am 


SimplyTheBest

Decent matchup. We know Tank Williams won’t show up just to roll over and die, he’ll put up a fight. Can Williams pull off a second upset in a year and win? That would be a statement!

Posted October 22, 2012 5:23 am 



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