“I scored it 115-112 for Cano.” I scored it a Draw, Peter, and I think that was a reasonable decision. But giving Cano three points over Paulie? No. BTW, I think if you watch a slo-mo replay of the “knockdown” you’ll see that Cano really didn’t knock Paulie down with a punch.Posted October 23, 2012 6:21 pm
“Except for Esteves in the Garcia and Morales fight..”
Estevez is a fine referee and I have said so in other threads on ESB. But he does have some weaknesses–I’m not going to go into detail about them now–that I saw again on Saturday night. But I do think he is one of the better refs around.
As for Steve Smoger, well, he’s hard to figure out sometimes. Usually, he does a very fine job, but every now and then he just seems to short-circuit or not give a hoot about making the calls that he needs to make–like letting Cano repeatedly hit Paulie below the belt. Heck, I was yelling at Smoger as much as Malignaggi was.Posted October 23, 2012 6:19 pm
Mick the Marmalizer
The British(or should that be English) Are Coming! Darren Barker, Martin Murray, Matthew Macklin, Billy Joe Saunders are all on the case.Posted October 23, 2012 5:25 pm
The Quillin N’Dam fight was good, but where the hell did they get those refs from. Except for Esteves in the Garcia and Morales fight those guys were so fat and weird looking how could they save the boxers in time if they were hurt.
Morales has got to hang them up before he gets killed.
Cano won that fight and was robbed by the judges.
WTF is with that ref taking points from both Bailey and Alexander, to prove he was the boss?, it made it 9-9 so what is the point.
Is that the same guy who made Yuri Foreman fight with a busted knee? He looks and acts insane in there. When they introduced him he had a maniac look on his face and then started talking and yelling at the boxers telling them how to fight.
The Malignaggi ref looked a beach ball with legs. What maniac appoints these refs and judges in NY? They are embarrassing.Posted October 23, 2012 5:16 pm
Malignaggi receive a home decision. I scored it 115-112 for Cano.Posted October 23, 2012 2:04 pm
Garcia has an excellent jab and a mighty left hook, plus he’s fast, he’s the real deal for sure. Khan should stop begging for a rematch, Danny will spark him again. Khan is fighting a lightweight in his comeback. I’m guessing that’s because there were no featherweights available. I love deluded fighters, who think they’re something that they’re not. Khan is already talking about Mayweather again, what a joke. He’ll never change, his ego is the size of China.Posted October 23, 2012 5:57 am
The Mad Scientist
I have to give it to GBP, their fighters are getting paid..Danny Garcia made 1mil to fight Erik Morales that’s nice right there..from what I heard Alvarado and Rios didn’t even make nothing close to that combined..Posted October 22, 2012 10:16 pm
Mextradumus – Camacho Jr. is a bum never anything even close to Camacho Sr. the truth is the truth.. the only Jr. I’ve seen that shows skills like their Dad is Wilfredo Vasquez Jr..Posted October 22, 2012 9:05 pm
Garcias dad is definitley the Puerto Rican Floyd Mayweather SR… both pretty fkn crazy and talk some insane sht but what can you do.. Danny is a good kid and still congratulated Morales after the match.. As they say you can pick your friends but you can’t pick your Family… What ever you say about Dannys Dad the guy did manage to get Danny to this point in his career.. I think alot of his Rage at those conferences is because he trully loves his son and is very protective… Great couple of weekends of Boxing these past few weeks…Posted October 22, 2012 9:03 pm
A good rivalry between a Mex and Puerto Rican Fighter can lead to some serious money matches for each of them and leave both very wealthy.. IF Arum and Goldenboy can work things out Rios and Garcia could have some serious money matches.. but the bad blood with Goldenboy and Arum is definitely not good for the fighters… I see Rios being a tough straight ahead fighter and Garcia a good Boxer puncher who can bang so it would be a great fight for Mex and PR..Posted October 22, 2012 9:00 pm
All fkn around aside I don’t like to see veteran Boxers go out like that but he was game and willilng so he gets my respect for that.. not sure who he’s going to fight in Mexico but I hope he doesn’t go through this same type of beating on his last fight.. just not needed this late into his career…Posted October 22, 2012 8:57 pm
The Mad Scientist
I find it hard to feel sorry for Morales since his own stubborness is what lead to his demise on Saturday night..Im glad to hear he’s alright and didn’t really take a serious beating, just a hard shot that momentarily scrambled his brains and hopefully knock some sense into him about retiring.Posted October 22, 2012 8:42 pm
the reason Garcia is underrated is because he’s become noticeably better on a startling fight-by-fight basis. KingTFO of Khan whose been projected to be the next elite thing for years has given this kid loads of confidence in his fighting ability. he’s not unbeatable (yet) but his poise and discipline in fights has become pretty impressive. i hope Garcia is able to cash-in on his hard-earned success right now since the welter division is a particularly hazardous division to compete in these days. a lot of talented, proven, tested comp with sleepers like Garcia able to demote even the most highly-touted contenders on any given day. in the meantime, this type of success couldn’t happen to a nicer kid . . . (with an idiot father).Posted October 22, 2012 8:37 pm
Most critics still have one of Khan’s small testicles lodged down their throat.Posted October 22, 2012 8:18 pm
On serious talk …Camacho Jr was a lot worser when he got k.t.f.o and he laid in middle of the ring for like 20 min…it happen in MexicoPosted October 22, 2012 7:58 pm
That was one of those scary KnockOuts where everyone holds their Breath because they’re not sure if the guy is going to survive it.. once he showed signs of life everyone felt a bit better because those kinds of KO’s can result in career ending physical damage…Posted October 22, 2012 7:50 pm
I’m not gonna lie but that’s a funny pic of Morales in the ropes….thts Wht happens when ur brain says yes and ur body says no…Posted October 22, 2012 7:46 pm
“Kid Chocolate put himself in the conversation like I SAID he would.” And it’s important that you tell us this because?????Posted October 22, 2012 7:44 pm
“…the reality is that he cannot hit worth a damn so he had to struggle with Cano at certain points.” T
This is true and it’s also Malignaggi’s greatest weakness. Once his opponents realize he has no power, they just walk through his punches–just like Cano did. Cano also made it perfectly clear–or Paulie did himself–that Paulie’s speedy hands are a thing of the past.Posted October 22, 2012 7:43 pm
MOE TEAM GARCIA VS LUCAS OR BAM BAM RIOSPosted October 22, 2012 6:23 pm
Mad Scientist – Hopefully Delahoya and Arum make the fight happen it will be a great night of Boxing.. throw in a few other PR vs Mex matches.. and a few others and it’ll be another huge event…Posted October 22, 2012 5:32 pm
The Mad Scientist
C’mon Oscar, we’re waiting for you to tweet you’re willing to make Danny Garcia vs Brandon Rios..we all know the Argentinian doesn’t make you any real money so you are willing to sacrifice him against one of Arums possible cash cows..show everybody that wasn’t your intention by throwing Garcia in the mix the same way you did Matthysse,,my guess is you wont even go there..Posted October 22, 2012 2:25 pm
The Mad Scientist
This Tr and GBP feud is going to ruin everything at 140lbs..that’s where the action is at in boxing right now with fights that can generate interest from outside of the boxing world..if promoters can match Matthysse, Garcia, Rios, Alvarado, ect all against each other casual fans and other will love the sport of boxing again.Posted October 22, 2012 2:15 pm
Kid Chocolate looks pretty dam good he will be in the mix without a doubt.Its no wonder Andy Lee wanted no part of him before the Chavez jr. fight…K.Chocolate would have killed him.Middleweights and super middle are heating up nicely.Posted October 22, 2012 1:50 pm
Puerto Rican POWER! POW. Bye bye morales… :(Posted October 22, 2012 12:36 pm
A Danny Garcia vs Brandon Rios is a no brainer and would be another Great PR vs Mex Battle.. could lead to a rematch for the two and they could both make a sht load of $$$ in the Process… but we know the business of Boxing is just not that straight forward…Posted October 22, 2012 11:41 am
The Russian Tyson – The Robbery of Abril over Rios was so bad it was overturned by the NSAC…Posted October 22, 2012 11:38 am
Coxtradamus said that Garcia can’t KO Rios? What a dumb boxing prophet this guy is lol!Posted October 22, 2012 11:37 am
The Russian Tyson
Malachi – The boxer`s name that truly defeated Brandon Rios and got robbed was Richard Abril.Posted October 22, 2012 10:55 am
…. “Chocolate Boy couldn’t keep N’Dam Down” How about using Kid Chocolate instead of Chocolate Boy??? And Quillin sure as Hell kept N’Dam down on points and beat him to trash… The last 2 knockdowns didn’t take a whole lot of contact, so maybe N’Dam should fight Jermain Taylor next.Posted October 22, 2012 10:30 am
I would favor Garcia over Rios, Brandon does not have much of a boxing game and Garcia is fast enough to catchup with Brandon and put him on his seat…. Reality is that Brandon took ALOT of abuse in that short frame with Alvarado, he is ripe to get knocked out by someone…Posted October 22, 2012 9:24 am
Malignaggi, needs to stop making excuses the reality is that he cannot hit worth a damn so he had to struggle with Cano at certain points… I have no issue with Paulie getting the nod on activity but the reality is that his well known power deficits allow his opponents to stalk him without much fear of reprisal…. Cano is a kid that was beat up and stopped by and OLD Erik Morales, the fact he had Paulie down and in trouble does not really look good…Posted October 22, 2012 9:21 am
i can’t wait till somebody push rios’s wig back this cat is a certified brawling punching back and will be exposed soon enough for what he is well he actually already was and was on the winning end of a conspiracy fight against the precise boxer who i can’t think of his name at the second….yuuup!Posted October 22, 2012 9:16 am
Garcia is a fun kid to watch and his confidence has definately increased post Khan but I would like to see him shorten up some of his shots… That counter left hook of his is wicked to say the least, he did what he was supposed to do and sent and OLD man into retirement..Posted October 22, 2012 9:15 am
Rios vs Danny would be great but top scared won’t ever do it! They want Rios vs manny a joke of a fight!Posted October 22, 2012 8:36 am
RAY GORDON REID
GLAD FOR GLEN JOHNSON 7.5O 1O/22/2012Posted October 22, 2012 7:45 am
The Mad Scientist
I like Danny Garcia, the kid grew on me the night he ktfo of A mere Con but he is still a work in process..it remaind to seen if the kid can grind out wins in the heat of battle against the top dogs at 140lbs..Khan although a good win for young Swift has been seen on the canvas on unsteady legs or taking “L’s” in recent fights against lesser foes then the cream of the crop..IMO their is no dominant force at jr welterweight and I see titles constantly changing owners for the years to come..Posted October 22, 2012 12:14 am
Kid Chocolate put himself in the conversation like I SAID he would.Posted October 21, 2012 11:30 pm
N’Dam didn’t win me over… The man is wide open and would also get creamed by Golovkin or Martinez. Hassan was broken down by the 12th round—and light contact were putting him down at that point… He’s lucky he didn’t get hit with a haymaker in at the very end — he’d be a Jermain Taylor job right now.Posted October 21, 2012 11:12 pm
The Mad Scientist
WTF???- I don’t pay for mismatches and I don’t concern myself on how promoters and handlers choose to direct their fighters..I don’t get caught up with the alphabet soups or where the ring ratings rank fighters..I know a good boxer, fighter or prospect when I see one and Im all for letting and underdeveloped young gun grow to his full potential before matching him tough on a consistant basis..Posted October 21, 2012 10:53 pm
Rios should call out Danny Garcia or Mattyssee… He’s looking to prove himself so he should call them out… Canelo needs to fight his belts Mandatory Cuban Lara or he should fight either Quillin, Rosado or any of the other top guys at his true Weight class…Posted October 21, 2012 10:33 pm
The Mad Scientist – But you’re oK with how Goldenboy has shielded Canelo from any real challengers or threats.. Letting him avoid Mandatory Cuban Lara while feeding him 140lb Josesito Lopez????Posted October 21, 2012 10:31 pm
Even though N`Dam lost he sorta won me over with his heart and determinationPosted October 21, 2012 10:29 pm
The Mad Scientist
Papo- I agree, Garcia spoiled all of GBP plans by not only beating Morales the first time but ktfo of A mere Con..Swift is making a name for himself and the Rican fans who are in need of a young fighter they can indentify with to root for have taken a liking to Danny..GBP has no choice but to take the kid under their wing now and make him a house hold name amongst latino fans on the east coast..funny how Oscar was so quick to work with Top Stank to do a Matthysse vs Rios fight in hopes to try and derail Arums future cash cow but GBP didn’t think twice to keep Garcia clear from the Argentinian fighter from the same stable..Posted October 21, 2012 10:19 pm
The Russian Tyson
I would like to see Rios vs. Matthysse.Posted October 21, 2012 10:18 pm
No one reacts much anymore over dodgv decisions. It’s considered normal now in boxing.Posted October 21, 2012 10:15 pm
“Garcia is nice. Devon Alexander will beat him tho…he’s boring, but he’s good.”
In case you didn’t notice, Alexander is fighting as a welterweight. But no matter what you’re still wrong. Even at jr. welterweight, Devon will lose to Danny.Posted October 21, 2012 10:04 pm
I believe the reason Garcia doesn’t get recognition has to do with the fact that few expected him to be fighting at his current level. The majority of boxing fans expected him to lose against Morales on their first fight and that didn’t happened. Then came his encountered against Khan, and again, the odds were not on his side. A few here posted that Morales was going to give him a boxing lesson this time around…though that was more wishful thinking than anything else, it didn’t turn out that way.
However, also probably many have doubts about his skills; he’s winning and making a name for himself. At the same time, he’s gaining a heck of lot of experience, and for what I can see so far, he’s willing to work and be in top shape for every fight. He’s still young (just 24 years young), is determined and has lots of power; those are great attributes for any fighter.
It has nothing to do with nationality…one must give credit where credit is due and he deserves credit for what he has accomplished up to this point.Posted October 21, 2012 9:59 pm
The Mad Scientist
Btw, my post was meant for that guy who’s been in the ring but obviously seems to punch drunk to know anything about the sport of boxing.Posted October 21, 2012 9:30 pm
The Mad Scientist
Danny Garcia isn’t any more skilled than Brandon Rios as far as boxing goes..Swift is still a work in process with a good punch who can be outboxed just like Rios..Brandon on the other hand has not only beaten undefeated fighters but stopped guys who have never been ktfo..we already seen A mere Con and Erik Morales in similar situations against Prescott and Pacquiao way before Swift got to them..I like Garcia but he’s not the man to beat at jr welter, the division is still wide open and up for grabs..like I said, Matthysse, Garcia, Alvarado, Peterson, Rios, ect are all good fight versus each other, I see titles constantly changing owners if these fights can be made..Posted October 21, 2012 9:28 pm
N’Dam // Quillian fight was the best fight and also, I thought it was the best fight of the night. Personally I thought Quillian was getting winded late in the fight and there were moment Quillian was hurt. Am I the only one that would favor a rematch, the fight was much closer than it seemed and N’Dam had a giant heart… Rematch would be great …and definitely, one I would watch again.Posted October 21, 2012 9:21 pm
Zab Judah!! Talk about dinosaur!!! Rios will smash this one hit wonder Garcia. FACT!!Posted October 21, 2012 9:10 pm
Garcia was the best fighter on the card by far. He has a stronger and more versatile stance than Quillin has. He’s more relaxed and less vulnerable. They could both improve their jabs by 50%—especially Garcia who’s only 24 and has a lot more time.Posted October 21, 2012 9:02 pm
I hated the advice from Quillin’s chief 2nd. He kept asking for a KO. When you’re beating a hittable guy on points you concentrate on scoring and defending, not a KO.. N’Dam isn’t a good boxer but he could hurt you or knock you out if you make a mistake—so you deny him that chance. Quillin was very tight because he wanted to win so badly. The right advice would have been to loosen up and get his jab going so he could set up his power shots with less risk—not “Knock this guy out and let’s go home.”Posted October 21, 2012 8:59 pm
Quillin’s backers should invest in a great oral surgeon for Peter. He’s going to make millions and it’s better to have a Sugar Ray Leonard smile than a Leon Spinks smile.Posted October 21, 2012 8:56 pm
The unnamed author wrote, “The fight was so competitive that even with four knockdowns going into the twelfth round, there was still the possibility N’Dam might win … There is ALWAYS the possibility ANYONE might win—but N’Dam’s chances at that point were slim indeed.. N’Dam was broken down by the 12th. Quillin beat him by 8 points on every card. Even if N’Dam scored 2 knockdowns in the 12th and Quillin scored zero knockdowns that round—Hassan would have lost unanimously 112-110.Posted October 21, 2012 8:54 pm
Is this writer a moron? What the hell is a “kayo”? Do you mean “KO” which stands for “knock-out”? Just more idiotic street slang by people trying to look “cool”. almost as annoying as people who write “KTFO”. Stop making up stupid expressions for things that already have names!
Rant overPosted October 21, 2012 8:39 pm
I’ve been in the ring HAVE YOU!!!?
It kills me, every time I come to this website the amount of dudes on here analizing these boxers the way they do. Garcia has a foundation as a fighter, Rios is a typical MEXICAN FIGHTER…lots of heart..very little skill. Do some of you know what its like gtting rocked by a punch in the ring…Garcia will have Rios looking like he’s bobbing his head at a HIP-HOP concert. That brawl n mawl style wont work with him..he knows how to time raging bulls..case in point Amir Khan. Garcia is nice. Devon Alexander will beat him tho…he’s boring, but he’s good.Posted October 21, 2012 8:35 pm
Damn, Morales looks like a Dead corpse on the floor in that Photo.. Gunned down by young Danny Garcia..Posted October 21, 2012 8:21 pm
I thought Morales had a chance since theiir last fight was close. I was wrong.Posted October 21, 2012 7:58 pm
The Mad Scientist
Danny Garcia is still a work in process so no need to match him tough against guys like Matthysse just yet..to Swift’s defense we all know he just expose a fraud in A mere Con to become Champ and the jr welter weight division is still up for grabs regardless of what the ratings may say..Posted October 21, 2012 7:48 pm
Danny Garcia vs Brandon Rios seems perfect for the beginning of 2013, I hope they will make itPosted October 21, 2012 7:25 pm
ALL of the WINNERS WON just as I predicted!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!Posted October 21, 2012 6:03 pm
Alexander is trash!Posted October 21, 2012 5:59 pm
The true warrior is Danny’s mom who had the balls to sleep with Angel Garcia!! LolPosted October 21, 2012 5:21 pm
Malignaggi looks barely in there. Unless Hatton has completely fallen apart, he’ll have a title back around his waist soon enough.Posted October 21, 2012 5:09 pm
Morales should have retired a few years ago. Once a great fighter, but this was only for the money.
Garcia is a good fighter. I still think there’s guys out there that will beat him. Rios and Alvarado both would beat him, and Matthysse would probably beat him also. Either of these guys would be in for a tough fight with Garcia because he is tough, has one punch KO power and is both mentally and physically tough.
Malignaggi is waste of a fighter, he offers nothing, but for some reason GBP gets him wins one way or another. Alexander is the same as Malignaggi. He’s one of two of the most boring fighters ever. The other is Malignaggi.
if knockdown a guy six times and he still gets up and keeps on hammering at you, then something must be amiss. Atleast 4 if not 5 knockdowns were because of NDam’s bad footwork. Legitimate yet i doubt they were great shots. If “Kid Choclate” was facing Martinez or golovkin, it might have been an other story.Posted October 21, 2012 4:18 pm
They are already talking about Garcia vs Judah! Get ready for some more bullcrap golden boy match ups!!Posted October 21, 2012 4:05 pm
Quillen / N’Dam was by far the best fight. Lets here some more about themPosted October 21, 2012 3:17 pm
The Mad Scientist
There is more than just one fighter at 140lbs that can test Garcia..Bradley, Peterson, Alvarado, Rios ect…but yes, considering the boxing politics Matthysse will be the only obe available since Garcia already smashed on A mere Con..Posted October 21, 2012 3:13 pm
It is obvious Morales does not belong in the ring anymore as a fighter. But what a HOF career!Posted October 21, 2012 2:15 pm
Garcia is the real deal at 140, only Matthysse can test himPosted October 21, 2012 1:59 pm
Just like I though Bailey can’t beat an elite or A level fighter. Bailey struggles and loses to B level fighters. He need to go ahead and hang em upPosted October 21, 2012 11:40 am
Good boxing night. For Morales last fight, the choice should be easy. BARRERA. Both are washed up so It is surely less dangerous for them to fight together than to go at it against a younger fighter. Great ending in MEXICO for two of the best ever.Posted October 21, 2012 11:31 am