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TARK

Hidalgo says.., “Here’s a photo of the wonderful Floyd Mayweather Jr. stealing a KO win over Ortiz because incompetent Ref Joe Cortez was talking to someone outside the ring and wasn’t even aware Mayweather had started swinging. Look at the expression of total surprise on Cortez’s face. Picture does not lie.”

Here’s what happened… Cortez was watching in amazement because Ortiz SHOULD have been watching Floyd and not Cortez… Ortiz wanted OUT of the Floyd fight… He took a “Please hit me” stance.

Ortiz had already made his 5 million, who WHY take 12 rounds of brutal punishment??? Ortiz tried to foul out.. When that didn’t work he came up with another plan that worked. He let Floyd hit him and he took the full count with a massive grin on his face.

The grin said, “Shlt man…you DID it.. You just made 5 million dollars, you only had to go four … and you’re not badly beaten up.”

Hidalgo, If you were 5 million dollars richer would you be grinning?

Posted June 14, 2014 3:32 pm 


DaTruth Hurts

Just wait until Cuban Lara Biatch Slaps Canelo around the Ring from post to post like Mayweather did to see all the excuses the resident Chihuahuas like Tumbo will make for why Lara was able to do that to Canelo… LOL it’ll be funny

Posted June 11, 2014 10:27 am 


DaTruth Hurts

Most if not all of the Sore Loser Rants on these Boards are not from Argentinians.. they’re from Sore Losing Chihuahuas like te tumbo, who prayed to their Santa Muerte Saint for Sergio to Beat the Puerto Rican Super Star Cotto… Because it drives them insane when a Puerto Rican gets such Attention and Accolades.. LOL fkers never change..

Posted June 11, 2014 10:19 am 


TARK

Sredmond blathers.., “Basically the ONLY way Cotto would have been fit for Mayweather would have been if he stayed Undefeated? Interesting do you apply this standard to ALL fighters? if that’s the case then the ONLY elite fighter that Floyd is fit to face would be HIMSELF.”

Last I heard Porter is a World Champion who’s undefeated in like 26 fights.. He beat 2-Division World Champion Devon Alexander, who Floyd was talking about fighting and who beat Maidana, Floyd’s last opponent.

Porter also CRUSHED Malignaggi, a 3 time, 2-Division World Champion like nobody else could… Floyd certainly fought guys who couldn’t box or punch like Guerrero — why not fight a much better fighter like Porter … who CAN box and punch???

Posted June 10, 2014 10:29 pm 


Ramsey

SREMOND

Ramsey, Mayweather was a 35 year old fighter facing Cotto NOT at his peak and NOW Cotto AND Marquez achieved their GREATEST Career victories by TKO and KO respectively YEARS after Floyd Mayweather took them to school BOTH men besting Elite fighters and guys that were discussed as threats to his continued domination of the sport… If these fighters were BETTER than Floyd their records would reflect, we have Manny getting CAPPED by a 39 year old version of Marquez who did not beat any other WW fighters beside him… HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted June 9, 2014 5:24 pm

Another straw man fallacy. Now you’re just lying. At no point have I made the argument that those fighters were better than Mayweather.

And to reiterate once again, what Cotto or Marquez have subsequently gone on to achieve has no bearing on what we’re discussing.

Stop strawmanning to try to distract away from that.

You’re only making yourself look bad by continuing to persist to tread down this path.

Posted June 10, 2014 9:07 pm 


Ramsey

SREDMOND

Ramsey, you mention Cotto losing to Manny and Margarito so Basically the ONLY way Cotto would have been fit for Mayweather would have been if he stayed Undefeated? Interesting do you apply this standard to ALL fighters? if that’s the case then the ONLY elite fighter that Floyd is fit to face would be HIMSELF… HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

This is yet another weak and transparent straw man fallacy. That is not what we are discussing. At no juncture have I alleged what you’re trying to form a new argument, a distraction, to argue against

My argument is very unambiguous and clear. You’ve trying to pervert into a something else because you either lack the intelligence to understand it or it’s dawned on you that you’ve lost your grip on yours.

It’s one of two things. Either there’s a serious deficiency with your reading comprehension or you’re being wilfully dishonest. It’s obvious to me which of those it is.

To reiterate once more, the topic we’re discussing is the perception of Marquez and Cotto at the time Mayweather fought them. What they’ve subsequently gone on to achieve since then is completely immaterial.

The general perception of Cotto at the time Mayweather fought him was that he was damaged goods after being on the receiving end of two savage beatings at the hands Manny Pacquiao and the plaster of paris soaked wraps of Antonio Margarito. To suggest otherwise is highly dishonest and pure revisionism.

It’s you who’s distorting history by pretending that isn’t the case.

Posted June 10, 2014 9:04 pm 


Ramsey

SREDMOND

Marquez was #2 P4P in the World fighting Floyd off a 21 month layoff and JMM then went on to fight and destroy Manny Pacquiao YEARS later at 147 in fact JMM was more impressive in his bouts with Manny at 144 and 147 so lets not get revisionist… I guess calling the GREAT Juan Manuel Marquez “A Cherry Pick” is just another feather in Mayweather cap and a testament to his dominance! The WORLD had the Larger Canelo inserted as a legitimate threat to Floyd and showed that by spending $150 million dollars for the fight, once Floyd TOOK Canelos “0? with pleny of room to spare the WHINERs continued to WHINE… 16 pounds and 13 years younger WOW that’s AMAZING for a 36 year old with almost 20 years in the game…

This is a logical fallacy and has no bearing on what we’re discussing.

The irony is Mayweather took those 21 months off to avoid Cotto and the rest of those welterweights he wanted no part of when they were in their prime.

The only other logical alternative to that we can surmise is we believe his excuse about him losing his urge and needing a long sabbatical to recuperate and allow his injury racked body to heal.

If that’s the case the lay off could only have done him the world of good, from a a psychological and physical perspective. You can’t have it both ways.

Posted June 10, 2014 9:00 pm 


Ramsey

SREDMOND

Ramsey, seems you want to distort history, Marquez called out Mayweather NOT vice versa and then when he got ALOT more than he asked for the excuses from the sidelines began… The notion that he “plucked Marquez” from 2 divisions below is patently false, Marquez wanted the fight and payday and he paid for it in the ring…And both Mayweather and Marquez had their origins in lower divisions whereas a GGG type began at 160 NOW wants fights with a guy who began at 130 and barely makes the limit at 147…

Are you pulling my leg? You couldn’t be anymore wrong. The notion that Mayweather plucked Marquez from two divisions below is not patently false at all.

You mean to suggest that Floyd Mayweather has no say in picking and choosing who he fights? I don’t think you need me to tell how stupid that sounds.

At any one given time he’s being called out by more fighters than he isn’t. From ones who campaign two divisions below to those who campaign three or four above his own.

He chose Marquez not the other way around.

Everyone and their dog wants to fight him remember. He has absolute control over whom he decides to fight and to suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

He was literally spoiled for choice for opponents, but he decided he wanted to fight a lightweight who’d only been campaigning at that weight for a brief period, a couple of fights.

Mayweather had been a fully-fledged lightweight since 2002.

A super-lightweight since 2004.

And a welterweight since 2005.

He won the WBC super welterweight title in 2007, by contrast, Marquez had been a super-featherweight up until 2008 and he hadn’t ever fought above 135 before.

He was the former undefeated WBC welterweight and super-welterweight champion. Marquez was still a super-featherweight a couple of fights before he fought Mayweather.

And you’re trying to sell that as some giant risk on his part? Ludicrous.

The sad thing is by his lowly standards it actually that was a big risk. Point proven.

Posted June 10, 2014 8:56 pm 


whatever

Cotto will stop mayrunner, no doubt. His punches are crisper, he’s stronger at 160, and mentally 100% confident. He will destroy chicken mayrunner.

Posted June 10, 2014 1:20 pm 


massey

Your right Both party didn’t sign. Just Mayweather side sign there contract pac man didn’t.

Posted June 10, 2014 10:17 am 


Anonymous

TARK, if both sides signed a contract, then it is legally binding and therefore would be enforced or legal suits would have been filed to sue the party at fault for not hoping through with the fight.

I doubt both parties ever signed for the fight.

Posted June 10, 2014 9:08 am 


massey

Dude what happen to 40 mill Floyd offer Pac Man. What happen to the Arena Bob was building. Sell crazy to someone else. We all bought out here.

Posted June 10, 2014 12:03 am 


TARK

I believe both Pacquiao and Floyd signed to fight originally… Their fight was scheduled anyway… Odds were set by oddsmakers in Pacquiao’s favor and betting opened… I still remembre 20,000 dollars bets being wagered on Floyd.

That’s when Floyd changed his mind and said the fight wouldn’t go forward without randomized Olympic style drug testing… This caught everyone by surprise.

Eventually the drug testing issues were ironed out — and the money split became the big issue keeping the fight from happening

Eventually the money split was ironed out and Floyd said Arum couldn’t be Pacquiao’s promoter…

Most people saw a pattern in the negotiations… Everything would be ironed out by Floyd and Pac’s representatives — everything would be settled, and then Floyd would throw a new wrench into the works..

Floyd finally just admitted it… He doesn’t want to fight Pacquiao, period.

Posted June 9, 2014 11:06 pm 


massey

Ok if he don’t want to fight Manny its just Floyd putting one over on us. How come in 2010 doing blood test gate Floyd sign his contact we still waiting on Manny to sigh his. Ol but he want Marquez 5 to do random blood test. The same as when Floyd was begging him to sign. Ask my promoter Bob Aurm. Wow….Floyd will fight him and you haters will find another reason to hate on the p4p king.

Posted June 9, 2014 10:04 pm 


Havoc

Massey: Floyd don’t want to fight Manny in the ring. He wants you to think Floyd can beat him in the ring. RATED means nothing when you don’t beat someone you have been comparing to.

Posted June 9, 2014 9:11 pm 


massey

Havoc man are you kidding me. Marquez beat Pac at least 2 times. Floyd came off a two year lay off and punished Marquez. How come Cotto, Marquez and shane said Floyd would beat Pacq. No we should take your word for it not people who actually been in the ring with both fighter’s.

Posted June 9, 2014 8:42 pm 


SLIM

Floyd already hit that p#ssy! Why is this conversation?

Posted June 9, 2014 8:17 pm 


Havoc

Sredmond: okay Floyd is RATED P4P best but that doesn’t mean he is better than Pacman. Sure Pacman lose some but definitely not a cherry picker fighter. It’s to obvious that Mayweather is ducking Pacman. Rated means nothing until he man up and step in the ring with Pacman and beat him.

Posted June 9, 2014 8:17 pm 


Hecdog

I LOVE Cottos buldge

Posted June 9, 2014 6:28 pm 


sisco

Roach was convinced Manny would defeat Marquez.

Posted June 9, 2014 6:27 pm 


SREDMOND

Ramsey, you mention Cotto losing to Manny and Margarito so Basically the ONLY way Cotto would have been fit for Mayweather would have been if he stayed Undefeated? Interesting do you apply this standard to ALL fighters? if that’s the case then the ONLY elite fighter that Floyd is fit to face would be HIMSELF… HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted June 9, 2014 5:26 pm 


SREDMOND

(Floyd not peak at 35 years old)

Posted June 9, 2014 5:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Ramsey, Mayweather was a 35 year old fighter facing Cotto NOT at his peak and NOW Cotto AND Marquez achieved their GREATEST Career victories by TKO and KO respectively YEARS after Floyd Mayweather took them to school BOTH men besting Elite fighters and guys that were discussed as threats to his continued domination of the sport… If these fighters were BETTER than Floyd their records would reflect, we have Manny getting CAPPED by a 39 year old version of Marquez who did not beat any other WW fighters beside him… HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted June 9, 2014 5:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Marquez was #2 P4P in the World fighting Floyd off a 21 month layoff and JMM then went on to fight and destroy Manny Pacquiao YEARS later at 147 in fact JMM was more impressive in his bouts with Manny at 144 and 147 so lets not get revisionist… I guess calling the GREAT Juan Manuel Marquez “A Cherry Pick” is just another feather in Mayweather cap and a testament to his dominance! The WORLD had the Larger Canelo inserted as a legitimate threat to Floyd and showed that by spending $150 million dollars for the fight, once Floyd TOOK Canelos “0” with pleny of room to spare the WHINERs continued to WHINE… 16 pounds and 13 years younger WOW that’s AMAZING for a 36 year old with almost 20 years in the game…

Posted June 9, 2014 5:21 pm 


SREDMOND

Ramsey, seems you want to distort history, Marquez called out Mayweather NOT vice versa and then when he got ALOT more than he asked for the excuses from the sidelines began… The notion that he “plucked Marquez” from 2 divisions below is patently false, Marquez wanted the fight and payday and he paid for it in the ring…And both Mayweather and Marquez had their origins in lower divisions whereas a GGG type began at 160 NOW wants fights with a guy who began at 130 and barely makes the limit at 147…

Posted June 9, 2014 5:17 pm 


Ramsey

Cotto was perceived as a seriously faded force at the time Mayweather fought him. Mayweather didn’t want to know when Cotto was at his peak.

It’s all well and good to highlight what he has done subsequently since then in Mayweather’s defence, but that’s just being disingenuous.

Cotto’s star was not shining with quite the same luminosity at the time when Mayweather wanted to fight him. The general consensus among the boxing world was that he was damaged goods after being brutally pummeled into submission by Antonio Margarito and Manny Pacquiao.

Posted June 9, 2014 5:10 pm 


Ramsey

Mayweather plucking a fighter from two divisions below to fight him at 147 is just another classic example of his cherrypicking and deceptive and cautious approach to opponent selection again. It looks a much better win on paper than it actually is. He was an undefeated former champion at that weight and the weight above, Marquez was lightweight.

Marquez moving up two whole divisions to challenge the pound for pound best boxer in the sport is far more of a risk and an ask than Mayweather has ever come close to taking in his career. Point proven.

Posted June 9, 2014 5:09 pm 


Ramsey

SREDMOND there is no contradiction. The problem could possibly lie with a deficiency in your reading comprehension. All the aforementioned fighters other than Mayweather have actively pursued the most demanding possible challenges out there for themselves, Mayweather in complete contrast has done the total opposite.

You’ve actually inadvertently reinforced my argument for me with the examples you bring forth in his defence.

Mayweather was a fully fledged welterweight and a former undefeated champion at 147 and 154 when he fought Marquez. Don’t forget that he didn’t lose either of those belts in the ring.

Marquez was a lightweight when he got the call to fight him and he had to bridge the gap between two whole divisions.

Marquez was not seen as a killer at any weight above lightweight at the time.

Posted June 9, 2014 5:08 pm 


massey

Man Canelo is up for a rude awakening. Laura going to out box Canelo just like Money May did but the key factor is Laura have power. I mean over 6 rounds hurt youbpower.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:52 pm 


massey

Billy prove me wrong with Fax. Are lasses is the best you can come up with.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:44 pm 


SREDMOND

Havoc, Floyd is CLEARLY the best that is why he is Lineal Champ in 2 weight classes, and he is consensus P4P #1 in the sport do you really have to ask?? Manny is 2 bouts removed from getting KOed by a guy who never beat any of the other top WW’s he fought despite his Greatness (Marquez)

Posted June 9, 2014 4:30 pm 


SREDMOND

Havoc, Floyd WASTED Hatton first, as for Marquez, Manny has YET to get a clear win over JMM and is seeking to avenge the KO loss that is one of the worst of an elite fighter in the history of the sport… Floyd figured out Marquez after a 21 month layoff with EASE….You say that “Floyd demands everything” what are you talking about? I never gave Manny grief for his catchweight fights but he fought at LEAST 3 of them and he was discussing ANOTHER… Both Floyd and Manny are A side boxers and have leverage that said one guy takes some losses ONE

Posted June 9, 2014 4:28 pm 


BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

massey the lassie dont know boxing

Posted June 9, 2014 4:12 pm 


massey

Ggg arguments is crazy. Dude haven’t faught anyone. GGG want ti fight guarantee fights that’s it. Sergio, Chev jr or petter Qullin. He’s si feared by these fighter’s. Except Chev jr would have faught him. When Ward called him out he didn’t want it. When Laura tweetd him and said if you and me are both are so feared let us fight. He ran from that. Come on this guy’s no hungry. Ward was putting belts on the line. Don’t give me that 168 crap cause he was begging for Chev jr at 168. The bottom line don’t want to face speed, great defense and power at the same time. Why cause it would exspose him.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:38 pm 


massey

Dude Hatton wasn’t the same after Floyd punish him. By the way if Pac so great how come almost every fighter he face dam near coming stright off lost. Only one I give him credit for is Bradely. It took two fights to make it clear and the second wasn’t so great. If its not weight drain its coming off a lost. Except Bradely. Man Pac is fools gold. Water down liquid. If he faught any of Al haymon fighter’s he will be dead in the water. Marquez beat him atleast twice and we know what Floyd did him.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:26 pm 


Havoc

Sredmond: Floyd beat Cotto and Marquez, so does Pacman. So what are you trying to say. Floyd is the best? Let him fight Pacman who drop Hatton with ease, means no scratch were Floyd round around for 10 rounds until he decided to use his punches. Come on we all see Floyd is the best in picking his opponents and demanding everything in his favor even changing the rules. That’s all he is and that’s his legacy.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:30 pm 


teflon

GGG hasnt fought anyone worth talking about the jury is still out on your boy he is overhyped right now.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:33 pm 


Great post!!!!

SREDMOND

Off Topic, Tark is definitely a flip flopper and his arguments are getting more and more bizarre… He will argue that “who a guy fights does not matter he looks at them technically” then he will say “Floyd has not fought anyone who is a good boxer” then he will say that Cotto and Canelo are GREAT “but then give Mayweather no cred for beating them” he will say that in order to earn his respect Mayweather has to defeat “Shawn Porter, Thurman and Brook because they are Great boxers” I will then ask HOW did they become Great? and if they are then why were you not discussing them in this manner 6 months ago? He felt Canelo was gonna handle Floyd, when Canelo loses he says Alvarez was dead on the scales or too young MEANWHILE the day before he liked Canelos chances…. He says GGG does not have to go to SMW, even though GGG was about to ink a deal with Chavez, he claims GGG is REALLY a 154 pounder when GGG has NEVER fought at 154 as a pro, and AGAIN he was gonna fight Chavez at 168… Tark calls Floyd Mayweather “The Goat” said he knew that from 10 fights in THEN he says “he has not fought a great boxer” all Floyds career he has just needed to fight Shawn Porter, Thurman, Brook or Lara according to this nutcase…

Posted June 9, 2014 12:19 pm

Posted June 9, 2014 12:31 pm 


bob arum

good point

SREDMOND

Floyd beats GGG at 154 he has a PPV against an unknown to casual fans AND he gets knocked by hardcore fans because Golovkin dropped 7 pounds…Can you hear Tark, Bears, Lion King and the rest protesting that FMJ drained this dude when the day prior they were sure he would stop Floyd in 4 rounds? This is a nonsense bout that ain’t happening time for you worms to accept it’s gonna take a WW to beat FMJ..

Posted June 8, 2014 11:31 pm

Posted June 9, 2014 12:14 pm 


Anonymous

Mike Tyson

Damm another public shooting in LA. I went to wall mart yesterday and his security guard was right in front of the bank and stating right at me. He had shade so he out stared me, to day at the other branch at the mall I seen another security guard out side the door so I asked, and he said last week they had a robbery so they got guard at each branch man that big bucks. Bank robbery are dime a dozen so don’t under stand what up? They can’t keep it up talking big buck. Crazy…

Posted June 9, 2014 12:58 am

PEEJ

Pac is still a great fighter. Can’t argue with what he has done recently. No not the same but still a great fighter. I find it funny how we argue over great fighters and their accomplishments. Makes me laugh

Posted June 9, 2014 12:55 am

PEEJ

yeah I read all those but they all say their source says its an estimated. So I will wait till they come out with numbers. Either way it do as well as they expected. Unfortunately having PPVs every month, sometimes twice a month is just not healthy. Only reason I can afford it is because I get 50% off my cable bill since I’m a manager for the phone company.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:54 am

Auzbox

Get over it: no he isn’t the same fighter but he still just beat the #3 p4p fighter in the world so he is still doing ok

Posted June 9, 2014 12:50 am

Mike Tyson

Type in 900 ppv floyd and maidana, I seen 900 k was anounced at boxing scene. 24 hour say 800-900 ppv at that search.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:48 am

get over it

Pac is not the same fighter he got KTFO by Marquez a 40 year old Mexican. He never KOed Bradley, Rios so saying he is dangerous at this point remains to be seen. No one is afraid of him people seem to forget he lost 5 times. In 09 he put on a string of wins very impressive since then what has he done? No one is stupid enough to dehydrate themselves to fight himand Arum has made many promises and produced nothing. Canelo, Danny Garcia, Floyd I guarantee you none of these fights will ever happen.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:47 am

PEEJ

well as far as I could find the numbers haven’t been released yet. But whatever. You may have seen an article that I haven’t. Yeah terrible about obama care. Ridiculous.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:41 am

Mike Tyson

Peej it’s 900 k times are hard money tight going forward Obama care started get insured or pay 1 k year end.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:29 am

Mike Tyson

Yea rich, I hate roach advice to PAC, he got PAC kock out saying many need this ko by 5 or he lose on fight 4, stupid thing to say, PAC has enought pressure and knock out goes both ways. Jmm throw his favorite combo blindly when ever he think PAC comming on that a right cross and follow with a left upper cut PAC taugh jmm was hurt so he ran into that punch trying to finish.
If PAC had all 12 round he woould have won .

Posted June 9, 2014 12:23 am

turbo hamster on tequila

Okay so Sredmond NOW do you have GGG ranked above Martinez?

Posted June 9, 2014 12:17 am

Mike Tyson

So who going to anounce a fight first PAC or Floyd ? LOL .I think the all in Oscar court. Oyea reed ring mag new issuer, Oscar talks. Didn’t know richard chalange Oscar, in short he told Oscar that he the CEO not you the CEO run the company not the president and untill he not the CEO he make the decission. Guess he taught he was safe. LOL
Oscar said he never had trouble with his manager team he mention someone and praise him and said that sometime you have to shake the tree and if the bad one fall out then so be it.

So he fired him, and Richard said no he didn’t sight a new contract. Oscar lied. Oscar sad that he going to be very very active and run the promoting team and negoacition and duties and he going to be very busy going forward and he wants that, he talks about equality for fight pver and o er and that his mission one boxing league again. Good read check it out.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:16 am

Anonymous

racemond has to bring up euro fighters in topics that have 0 to do with them. it just eats at this jerk.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:15 am

Jim Rich

That is the thing about martinez he always kept his hands low like roy and he used to be able to get away with it, and was also a good relaxation resting position. Martinez doesn’t have the footwork and agility to fight with his hands down anymore so he is done. Cotto always had better technical defensive skills with regards to holding hands up to block shots but that doesn’t mean in their prime cotto would have beat martinez. Martinez style was more of a natural athletic style and cotto more of a schooled learned style. I pick martinez anyday if he was in prime shape but its over for him now. Every fighter has flaws but again this is not the althletic fighter of old in martinez, I’m not going try say oh martinez didn’t bring his hand up after throwing jabs, he never has and it hasn’t ever cost him a fight before. He’s just to old to fight his style anymore. So cotto has a style you can take it a little farther into the years for better or worse. It’s his life but I don’t think cotto knows when to quit. And what is it with all the tatoos, is that prove something or mean something I’m not sure but cotto is tattoo up pretty good. The tattoos I really don’t get it any more than the one on mike tyson face, doesn’t proof anything except perhaps you have some mental issues that need be addressed. And cotto isn’t comming out saying he can beat mayweather its roach that comes out saying this. Roach is a bit of a roach, cockroach I think.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:13 am

PEEJ

the one thing about Maidana is he doesn’t throw the text book punches. Cotto does. He would be better defensively against Cotto than Maidana. Plus Cotto doesn’t foul like Maidana and I don’t see Cotto trying to knee anybody in the nuts either.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:09 am

PEEJ

as for the PPV numbers for Floyd vs Maidana, yeah seems like they may be low since they have yet to report them. Last I read they said it did a mil but have yet to get all the numbers. There is nothing set so nobody knows but from the outside looking in I would say it did under a million.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:08 am

Mike Tyson

Jim rich.
It’s Martinez low right jabbing hand. That no contest for cotto both hight hands even after he throw he bring it back up high. Martinez no. Better trained habit payed off. A -class

Mike Tyson

There is a rules in boxing you first learn is to keep them up both hand in front go your face boy.
There is a reason for that , as the oponate can’t see a opening and has create one. If its open you can hit there derectly up close, but farther away you can fake a right hand hook and as you get closer hook that left, and he have no time bringing that left up. unprotected right side opens up the other side.pluss Sergio can’t fight inside he better outside as he a boxer, he fought cotto fight.
Keep them up boys your not or Floyd or roy. Scratch another boxer off the

Posted June 9, 2014 12:00 am

Auzbox

Yeh that was strange that he turned away

Posted June 8, 2014 11:59 pm

Mike Tyson

Good thing Martinez didn’t hit cotto from behing in the 6-8 round he was 1 secound away, cotto taught he hear the bell ring and was walking back to his corner, ( anouncer what cotto doing?) and Martinez ran really ran after cotto and was about to throw a punch on the back of cotto head and the bell rang. He looked silly and desperate. But hats off to him he gave no excuse, just he was hit cold and never recovered.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:53 pm

Auzbox

I’m not sure if cotto can beat mayweather but if mayweathers best now is what he dished up against maidana then maybe Father Time is and should be enough and retire happy

Posted June 8, 2014 11:49 pm

Jim Rich

I hadn’t watched martinez lately i didn’t know physically he was down the drain. Martinez should retire but cotto is not as good as he was in his prime, not that he ever was a bad fighter. Cotto is a good fighter but against top tier ready competition he just can’t compete good enough to win was my opioion. Matinez isn’t top tier, he’s like the old heavyweight corrie sanders who KO Vlad and took Vitali deep in to a fight only to get ko with a body shot from nobody. Beating up a an old injured fighter doesn’t prove anything except your not as shot a fighter as he was. I mean if cotto can somehow get a huge payday again floyd more power to him but he ain’t on mayweather level. And to say somehow cotto beat the same martinez that beat pavlik and ko williams is not the case. Everyone knows some fighters older fighter can decline suddenly in physical ability. Martinez mostly was endurance and agility that won him his fights and once that is gone there just ain’t much left, same thing with roy jones, take his speed endurance away not much left. Cotto won but he been in one to many wars already my concern is he gets beat to a pulp like he did against margarito, so cotto can do what he wants if someone puts him in a wheelchair for the rest of his life because he took one to many fights no one will feel sorry for his own stupidity but its his life he can keep fighting to long if he wants to.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:47 pm

Anonymous

Last nights version of Cotto can certainly beat floyd. If Cotto could draw blood from floyd’s nose such as in the first fight, considering Floyd got his ass kicked by Maidana and a rematch at the MW limit, Floyd would be in over his head.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:45 pm

Auzbox

Well then again sredmond people calling PAC out when he started at 106 is also silly isn’t it?

Posted June 8, 2014 11:44 pm

The Prince

Auzbox – Apology accepted.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:44 pm

SREDMOND

Yeah GGG is really the man calling guys out that began at 130? That are now 37? They should move up again to accommodate this media construct and monument to matchmaking? GTFOH..

Posted June 8, 2014 11:40 pm

Auzbox

I apologise prince it was largo

Posted June 8, 2014 11:39 pm

Mike Tyson

Missing martinez was bouncing all o er the place in front of cotto like broner, too excited .

Posted June 8, 2014 11:38 pm

Auzbox

But split don’t discredit his win with bad knees. Everytime a fighter wins no one can just say well done. Cotto yesterday, PAC in April, may in may. They all won in pretty good fashion lads

Posted June 8, 2014 11:38 pm

The Prince

Auzbox – Question: Find the post where I said Manny didn’t stand a chance against Bradley? I’m sure I said the opposite. You don’t have to agree with my points, but don’t make up lies.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:38 pm

SREDMOND

PAC already beat Bradley we saw that before and truth is Bradley did better the second time.. You are more awed by Maidana losing to Mayweather than Manny get knocked Cold by an FMJ plaything.. Your pretty illogical and YES Cottos record over the span is relevant it shows he has been inconsistent as much as I respect him and the guy who started that losing streak was Floyd Mayweather Jr… Cotto is the same guy, even though he was brilliant last night..

Posted June 8, 2014 11:37 pm

Mike Tyson

Yea under 900 k. Anybody saw the whole fight ? Martinez look like a amature in the fight. He was punching all in front of cotto trying to avoild punches, and was mostly hitting arms, and cotto was wasting no energy no wasted movements but foward he could have gone that way all night.
Totally a Diffrence upper class fighters

Posted June 8, 2014 11:37 pm

split_decision

All I have to say is give me a break. Cotto looked great and thank goodness Freddie brought that left hook back but lets not get carried away people. Sergios knees are shot and although I was suprised and a bit impressed with Cottos performance this fight in no way indicates he can beat Floyd. Or Canelo.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:35 pm

Auzbox

Your right GGG would get beat at 154 but he puts may in a coffin at 160. Who may going to fight at 147?

Posted June 8, 2014 11:33 pm

Auzbox

Anyone got ppv numbers from may v maidana yet. They seem to be hiding them which means they are poor. They would of def been in by now. Interesting to see how yesterday went in numbers card was pretty good

Posted June 8, 2014 11:31 pm

SREDMOND

Floyd beats GGG at 154 he has a PPV against an unknown to casual fans AND he gets knocked by hardcore fans because Golovkin dropped 7 pounds…Can you hear Tark, Bears, Lion King and the rest protesting that FMJ drained this dude when the day prior they were sure he would stop Floyd in 4 rounds? This is a nonsense bout that ain’t happening time for you worms to accept it’s gonna take a WW to beat FMJ..

Posted June 8, 2014 11:31 pm

Auzbox

Mike Tyson 147 thurman. Sredmond saying cotto is 2-2 in last 4 means nothing. PAC is 2-2 also and beat the 3rd best fighter on the planet p4p. You can get hungry again, and cotto looked hungry and he was ripped. Didn’t look overweight

Posted June 8, 2014 11:30 pm

Mike Tyson

What weight is Thurman fighting at?

Posted June 8, 2014 11:27 pm

SREDMOND

Golovkin is not relevant in a discussion of Cotto or Mayweathers next choices… These are veteran/HOF fighters that are gonna do what it takes to make $$$$$ that they deserve after facing between them MORE WORLD CHAMPS and having more Championship bouts than Golovkin has fights… It’s either Cotto vs Mayweather 2 or Canelo vs Cotto the money is in these 2 fights.. Golovkin is a bit of a media construct with no fanbase outside the hardcore, Cotto is not gonna campaign at 160 unless he is stupid he is 2-2 in his last 4 bouts 2 of those losses came at 154..

Posted June 8, 2014 11:27 pm

Tachyon

Auzbox true but Triple G is a natural middle weight meaning he drain about 8 pounds makes weight then goes back up on fight night. Cotto is smaller. Mayweather fighting Cotto fight night would be closer to 154 than fighting triple G who would hydrate to 160+. Maywather has stayed at 147 to 150 his entire career no use throw that away against a guy who will hydrate 20 pounds heaver than you are. Triple G should go up in weight fight Cotto, Ward, Froch, Sturm, even old B-Hop would drop down in weight “if he was honest”

Posted June 8, 2014 11:26 pm

Mike Tyson

Cotto not leaving top rank now. Yes he a free agent too.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:26 pm

Mike Tyson

Yea but that my point roach work with top rank and Floyd not dealing with top rank or GBP. And cotto not labeling top rank because roach there. He needs roach now. He found his coach that works.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:25 pm

Auzbox

Tyson but what I’m saying is what if he feels that 147 is to heavy and can keep as strong and as powerful at 140? Garcia wants to go up anyway. Another good fight is Garcia v thurman

Posted June 8, 2014 11:24 pm

Auzbox

Prince, greats are rarely to past it. You gave manny no chance against an undefeated young fresh hungry Bradley and PAC done it easy and fought at about 80 percent.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:23 pm

Mike Tyson

He say he can but that stupid. Stay at your best fighting weight. 147 lb -150lb all it does if f/ucks up the comparison table even more.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:22 pm

Posted June 9, 2014 12:13 pm 


Anonymous

WHAT??????

Mike Tyson

Damm another public shooting in LA. I went to wall mart yesterday and his security guard was right in front of the bank and stating right at me. He had shade so he out stared me, to day at the other branch at the mall I seen another security guard out side the door so I asked, and he said last week they had a robbery so they got guard at each branch man that big bucks. Bank robbery are dime a dozen so don’t under stand what up? They can’t keep it up talking big buck. Crazy…

Posted June 9, 2014 12:58 am

PEEJ

Pac is still a great fighter. Can’t argue with what he has done recently. No not the same but still a great fighter. I find it funny how we argue over great fighters and their accomplishments. Makes me laugh

Posted June 9, 2014 12:55 am

PEEJ

yeah I read all those but they all say their source says its an estimated. So I will wait till they come out with numbers. Either way it do as well as they expected. Unfortunately having PPVs every month, sometimes twice a month is just not healthy. Only reason I can afford it is because I get 50% off my cable bill since I’m a manager for the phone company.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:54 am

Auzbox

Get over it: no he isn’t the same fighter but he still just beat the #3 p4p fighter in the world so he is still doing ok

Posted June 9, 2014 12:50 am

Mike Tyson

Type in 900 ppv floyd and maidana, I seen 900 k was anounced at boxing scene. 24 hour say 800-900 ppv at that search.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:48 am

get over it

Pac is not the same fighter he got KTFO by Marquez a 40 year old Mexican. He never KOed Bradley, Rios so saying he is dangerous at this point remains to be seen. No one is afraid of him people seem to forget he lost 5 times. In 09 he put on a string of wins very impressive since then what has he done? No one is stupid enough to dehydrate themselves to fight himand Arum has made many promises and produced nothing. Canelo, Danny Garcia, Floyd I guarantee you none of these fights will ever happen.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:47 am

PEEJ

well as far as I could find the numbers haven’t been released yet. But whatever. You may have seen an article that I haven’t. Yeah terrible about obama care. Ridiculous.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:41 am

Mike Tyson

Peej it’s 900 k times are hard money tight going forward Obama care started get insured or pay 1 k year end.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:29 am

Mike Tyson

Yea rich, I hate roach advice to PAC, he got PAC kock out saying many need this ko by 5 or he lose on fight 4, stupid thing to say, PAC has enought pressure and knock out goes both ways. Jmm throw his favorite combo blindly when ever he think PAC comming on that a right cross and follow with a left upper cut PAC taugh jmm was hurt so he ran into that punch trying to finish.
If PAC had all 12 round he woould have won .

Posted June 9, 2014 12:23 am

turbo hamster on tequila

Okay so Sredmond NOW do you have GGG ranked above Martinez?

Posted June 9, 2014 12:17 am

Mike Tyson

So who going to anounce a fight first PAC or Floyd ? LOL .I think the all in Oscar court. Oyea reed ring mag new issuer, Oscar talks. Didn’t know richard chalange Oscar, in short he told Oscar that he the CEO not you the CEO run the company not the president and untill he not the CEO he make the decission. Guess he taught he was safe. LOL
Oscar said he never had trouble with his manager team he mention someone and praise him and said that sometime you have to shake the tree and if the bad one fall out then so be it.

So he fired him, and Richard said no he didn’t sight a new contract. Oscar lied. Oscar sad that he going to be very very active and run the promoting team and negoacition and duties and he going to be very busy going forward and he wants that, he talks about equality for fight pver and o er and that his mission one boxing league again. Good read check it out.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:16 am

Anonymous

racemond has to bring up euro fighters in topics that have 0 to do with them. it just eats at this jerk.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:15 am

Jim Rich

That is the thing about martinez he always kept his hands low like roy and he used to be able to get away with it, and was also a good relaxation resting position. Martinez doesn’t have the footwork and agility to fight with his hands down anymore so he is done. Cotto always had better technical defensive skills with regards to holding hands up to block shots but that doesn’t mean in their prime cotto would have beat martinez. Martinez style was more of a natural athletic style and cotto more of a schooled learned style. I pick martinez anyday if he was in prime shape but its over for him now. Every fighter has flaws but again this is not the althletic fighter of old in martinez, I’m not going try say oh martinez didn’t bring his hand up after throwing jabs, he never has and it hasn’t ever cost him a fight before. He’s just to old to fight his style anymore. So cotto has a style you can take it a little farther into the years for better or worse. It’s his life but I don’t think cotto knows when to quit. And what is it with all the tatoos, is that prove something or mean something I’m not sure but cotto is tattoo up pretty good. The tattoos I really don’t get it any more than the one on mike tyson face, doesn’t proof anything except perhaps you have some mental issues that need be addressed. And cotto isn’t comming out saying he can beat mayweather its roach that comes out saying this. Roach is a bit of a roach, cockroach I think.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:13 am

PEEJ

the one thing about Maidana is he doesn’t throw the text book punches. Cotto does. He would be better defensively against Cotto than Maidana. Plus Cotto doesn’t foul like Maidana and I don’t see Cotto trying to knee anybody in the nuts either.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:09 am

PEEJ

as for the PPV numbers for Floyd vs Maidana, yeah seems like they may be low since they have yet to report them. Last I read they said it did a mil but have yet to get all the numbers. There is nothing set so nobody knows but from the outside looking in I would say it did under a million.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:08 am

Mike Tyson

Jim rich.
It’s Martinez low right jabbing hand. That no contest for cotto both hight hands even after he throw he bring it back up high. Martinez no. Better trained habit payed off. A -class

Mike Tyson

There is a rules in boxing you first learn is to keep them up both hand in front go your face boy.
There is a reason for that , as the oponate can’t see a opening and has create one. If its open you can hit there derectly up close, but farther away you can fake a right hand hook and as you get closer hook that left, and he have no time bringing that left up. unprotected right side opens up the other side.pluss Sergio can’t fight inside he better outside as he a boxer, he fought cotto fight.
Keep them up boys your not or Floyd or roy. Scratch another boxer off the

Posted June 9, 2014 12:00 am

Auzbox

Yeh that was strange that he turned away

Posted June 8, 2014 11:59 pm

Mike Tyson

Good thing Martinez didn’t hit cotto from behing in the 6-8 round he was 1 secound away, cotto taught he hear the bell ring and was walking back to his corner, ( anouncer what cotto doing?) and Martinez ran really ran after cotto and was about to throw a punch on the back of cotto head and the bell rang. He looked silly and desperate. But hats off to him he gave no excuse, just he was hit cold and never recovered.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:53 pm

Auzbox

I’m not sure if cotto can beat mayweather but if mayweathers best now is what he dished up against maidana then maybe Father Time is and should be enough and retire happy

Posted June 8, 2014 11:49 pm

Jim Rich

I hadn’t watched martinez lately i didn’t know physically he was down the drain. Martinez should retire but cotto is not as good as he was in his prime, not that he ever was a bad fighter. Cotto is a good fighter but against top tier ready competition he just can’t compete good enough to win was my opioion. Matinez isn’t top tier, he’s like the old heavyweight corrie sanders who KO Vlad and took Vitali deep in to a fight only to get ko with a body shot from nobody. Beating up a an old injured fighter doesn’t prove anything except your not as shot a fighter as he was. I mean if cotto can somehow get a huge payday again floyd more power to him but he ain’t on mayweather level. And to say somehow cotto beat the same martinez that beat pavlik and ko williams is not the case. Everyone knows some fighters older fighter can decline suddenly in physical ability. Martinez mostly was endurance and agility that won him his fights and once that is gone there just ain’t much left, same thing with roy jones, take his speed endurance away not much left. Cotto won but he been in one to many wars already my concern is he gets beat to a pulp like he did against margarito, so cotto can do what he wants if someone puts him in a wheelchair for the rest of his life because he took one to many fights no one will feel sorry for his own stupidity but its his life he can keep fighting to long if he wants to.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:47 pm

Anonymous

Last nights version of Cotto can certainly beat floyd. If Cotto could draw blood from floyd’s nose such as in the first fight, considering Floyd got his ass kicked by Maidana and a rematch at the MW limit, Floyd would be in over his head.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:45 pm

Auzbox

Well then again sredmond people calling PAC out when he started at 106 is also silly isn’t it?

Posted June 8, 2014 11:44 pm

The Prince

Auzbox – Apology accepted.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:44 pm

SREDMOND

Yeah GGG is really the man calling guys out that began at 130? That are now 37? They should move up again to accommodate this media construct and monument to matchmaking? GTFOH..

Posted June 8, 2014 11:40 pm

Auzbox

I apologise prince it was largo

Posted June 8, 2014 11:39 pm

Mike Tyson

Missing martinez was bouncing all o er the place in front of cotto like broner, too excited .

Posted June 8, 2014 11:38 pm

Auzbox

But split don’t discredit his win with bad knees. Everytime a fighter wins no one can just say well done. Cotto yesterday, PAC in April, may in may. They all won in pretty good fashion lads

Posted June 8, 2014 11:38 pm

The Prince

Auzbox – Question: Find the post where I said Manny didn’t stand a chance against Bradley? I’m sure I said the opposite. You don’t have to agree with my points, but don’t make up lies.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:38 pm

SREDMOND

PAC already beat Bradley we saw that before and truth is Bradley did better the second time.. You are more awed by Maidana losing to Mayweather than Manny get knocked Cold by an FMJ plaything.. Your pretty illogical and YES Cottos record over the span is relevant it shows he has been inconsistent as much as I respect him and the guy who started that losing streak was Floyd Mayweather Jr… Cotto is the same guy, even though he was brilliant last night..

Posted June 8, 2014 11:37 pm

Mike Tyson

Yea under 900 k. Anybody saw the whole fight ? Martinez look like a amature in the fight. He was punching all in front of cotto trying to avoild punches, and was mostly hitting arms, and cotto was wasting no energy no wasted movements but foward he could have gone that way all night.
Totally a Diffrence upper class fighters

Posted June 8, 2014 11:37 pm

split_decision

All I have to say is give me a break. Cotto looked great and thank goodness Freddie brought that left hook back but lets not get carried away people. Sergios knees are shot and although I was suprised and a bit impressed with Cottos performance this fight in no way indicates he can beat Floyd. Or Canelo.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:35 pm

Auzbox

Your right GGG would get beat at 154 but he puts may in a coffin at 160. Who may going to fight at 147?

Posted June 8, 2014 11:33 pm

Auzbox

Anyone got ppv numbers from may v maidana yet. They seem to be hiding them which means they are poor. They would of def been in by now. Interesting to see how yesterday went in numbers card was pretty good

Posted June 8, 2014 11:31 pm

SREDMOND

Floyd beats GGG at 154 he has a PPV against an unknown to casual fans AND he gets knocked by hardcore fans because Golovkin dropped 7 pounds…Can you hear Tark, Bears, Lion King and the rest protesting that FMJ drained this dude when the day prior they were sure he would stop Floyd in 4 rounds? This is a nonsense bout that ain’t happening time for you worms to accept it’s gonna take a WW to beat FMJ..

Posted June 8, 2014 11:31 pm

Auzbox

Mike Tyson 147 thurman. Sredmond saying cotto is 2-2 in last 4 means nothing. PAC is 2-2 also and beat the 3rd best fighter on the planet p4p. You can get hungry again, and cotto looked hungry and he was ripped. Didn’t look overweight

Posted June 8, 2014 11:30 pm

Mike Tyson

What weight is Thurman fighting at?

Posted June 8, 2014 11:27 pm

SREDMOND

Golovkin is not relevant in a discussion of Cotto or Mayweathers next choices… These are veteran/HOF fighters that are gonna do what it takes to make $$$$$ that they deserve after facing between them MORE WORLD CHAMPS and having more Championship bouts than Golovkin has fights… It’s either Cotto vs Mayweather 2 or Canelo vs Cotto the money is in these 2 fights.. Golovkin is a bit of a media construct with no fanbase outside the hardcore, Cotto is not gonna campaign at 160 unless he is stupid he is 2-2 in his last 4 bouts 2 of those losses came at 154..

Posted June 8, 2014 11:27 pm

Tachyon

Auzbox true but Triple G is a natural middle weight meaning he drain about 8 pounds makes weight then goes back up on fight night. Cotto is smaller. Mayweather fighting Cotto fight night would be closer to 154 than fighting triple G who would hydrate to 160+. Maywather has stayed at 147 to 150 his entire career no use throw that away against a guy who will hydrate 20 pounds heaver than you are. Triple G should go up in weight fight Cotto, Ward, Froch, Sturm, even old B-Hop would drop down in weight “if he was honest”

Posted June 8, 2014 11:26 pm

Mike Tyson

Cotto not leaving top rank now. Yes he a free agent too.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:26 pm

Mike Tyson

Yea but that my point roach work with top rank and Floyd not dealing with top rank or GBP. And cotto not labeling top rank because roach there. He needs roach now. He found his coach that works.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:25 pm

Auzbox

Tyson but what I’m saying is what if he feels that 147 is to heavy and can keep as strong and as powerful at 140? Garcia wants to go up anyway. Another good fight is Garcia v thurman

Posted June 8, 2014 11:24 pm

Auzbox

Prince, greats are rarely to past it. You gave manny no chance against an undefeated young fresh hungry Bradley and PAC done it easy and fought at about 80 percent.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:23 pm

Mike Tyson

He say he can but that stupid. Stay at your best fighting weight. 147 lb -150lb all it does if f/ucks up the comparison table even more.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:22 pm

Posted June 9, 2014 12:10 pm 


DaTruth

I think Sergio was trying to get into Cotto’s head and make him angry so he’d come in and fight reckless.. Unfortunately for him he found out Cotto is a total professional who doesn’t get bent out of shape by idiotic accusations.

Posted June 9, 2014 11:46 am 


DaTruth

Bottom line is Sergio was Lying about Cotto’s Diva Demands..

Posted June 9, 2014 11:45 am 


DaTruth

Funny thing is I like Sergio, nice guy great story but in the 24/7 he was moaning and groaning about Cotto making demands and acting like a Diva.. his Biggest Gripe was claiming that Cotto wanted Sergio to enter first even though Sergio was the Champ? but come fight night we saw Cotto come in first with no fan fair or music.. plain and simple entrance.. So what was Sergio Biatchin about over those two episodes? seems like in the End Sergio proved to be the High Maintenance Diva who got knockedafkout Cold.. Bad night for Sergio and his Trainer who was just as Cockeey…

Posted June 9, 2014 11:44 am 


SREDMOND

Ramsey, YOU are contradicting yourself you say that Marquez, Cotto and others are “true warriors and fought everybody” unlike Mayweather… Mayweather fought and EASILY defeated Marquez and had a solid UD over Cotto so what does that say about Mayweather? That he schools these “Warriors” that you claim he is afraid to face????

Posted June 9, 2014 10:03 am 


Ramsey

The most disturbing aspect of Saturday night’s action for me wasn’t anything that occurred between the ropes, it was just another depressing reminder of how phonies like Floyd Mayweather have perverted and sullied everything great about the sport.

Fighters like Cotto, Pacquiao, Morales, Froch, Bradley, and Marquez are true warriors and they’ve always fought the best out there and taken on all comers.

They’ve always given the paying fan their monies worth and done their part to give us entertaining fights.

This is in stark contrast to pretenders like Mayweather.

All he cares about is the size of his bank balance and avoiding his biggest threats.

How comes all the aforementioned warriors manage to fight everyone and anyone but the so called best fighter in the sport can’t?

There’s no excuse his defenders can produce to explain that away.

There’s just no justification for it whatsoever.

If his peers can continuously fight the best why can’t he also?

It’s not too much to ask from the best fighter in the sport is it?

Posted June 9, 2014 8:59 am 


Anonymous

Auzbox stop choking yourself on your own numb nuts. For months you’ve bored us all stupid licking on Manny’s balls and curing his morning wood guzzling down his dribbly chunks. This article directly deals with Freddie Roach questioning whether or not Mayweather would take a challenge at 160 to fight Cotto. I answered it writing that even if he did and won it would be considered a cherry pick by all his detractors. Then a foul smelling cockroach known on here as Auzbox, ie you, you tool starts getting all brave and cocky and calling me a clown for answering the question. You need to look at the definition of what a clown is, then look in the mirror, realise it’s you and then sit down and shut your pie hole. It’s dweebs like you who are ruining this site with your hOm0erotic obsessions with Mayweather and Pacquioa so much that you can’t even read or comprehend what the subject is actually about!

Title: Roach convinced Cotto beats Maywether in return, isn’t sure Floyd will take one.

Where in the above does it mention Pacquiao? Nowhere. But, you’ve been jerking off so much you can’t even see straight. Now run along to a GUM clinic you STD.

Posted June 9, 2014 7:38 am 


Auzbox

All that means I rattled you. Cotto ain’t fighting mayweather this year unless floyd is working with arum as arum has cotto booked for his next fight. You a ss clown are one of the ones that say manny turned down 40 when floyd offered cause manny could t take it. Your just to stupid to see

Posted June 9, 2014 6:15 am 


Anonymous

Auzbox you moron. What is the title of this article? Only r soles like you still flap your lips about 40m crack dreams. Go take your meth and leave real boxing to us men, crackhead. While you’re about it get that finger out your rear end. It stinks.

Posted June 9, 2014 6:01 am 


Auzbox

Floyd is showtime and cotto HBO no fight there anonymous. Also mayweather booked for September and cotto December so don’t worry yourself with it clown

Posted June 9, 2014 5:53 am 


Anonymous

If Mayweather accepts a challenge from COTTO at 160 and beats him all the ESB naysayers will claim it’s another cherry pick. WTF

Posted June 9, 2014 5:48 am 


Auzbox

I just think its Interesting that everyone brings up the 40 mill floyd offered. Manny could never have taken it as he was under contract and floyd won’t work with arum. Also floyd happy to work with arum 09-10 but not now, my thinking is he never would have fought him anyway, everyone else may be different.

Posted June 9, 2014 5:14 am 


Havoc

Sredmond and company: you talked so much about how good Floyd is and how intelligent you are about boxing and you are a hard cord fans and know a lot of things about boxing but when the great Muhamad Ali tweeted that Floyd need to fight Pacqioua and he challenge him to do so you give to much excuses on why in the world Floyd can’t fight manny and yet you and everybody else claim Manny has no match against the best Floyd Mayweather. Floyd said he ain’t doing business with Arums fighters is just an obvious excused as clear as the sun that rises up every morning to avoid Pacman! Floyd can use people or people will use him but he will never ever beat Manny!

Posted June 9, 2014 4:58 am 


Havoc

It will take an accidental calculation to beat Floyd. We can all dream of GGG, Pacqioua or rematch with Cotto vs. Floyd. This P4p king has all the goods to win. From cherry picking to demands and conditions to purse and his arrogant personality which adored and hated by Fans to sell his boring fights to all his minions. This dude is really good! I just hope that one day people will realize that to best Floyd is to boycott his fights until he faces the real powerhouse company which is Top Rank. Any body from top rank will beat Mayweather. Guaranteed! Floyd can’t and never will be able to demand or take advantages of Top Rank fighters! Never!

Posted June 9, 2014 4:47 am 


bob arum

good point

SREDMOND

Floyd beats GGG at 154 he has a PPV against an unknown to casual fans AND he gets knocked by hardcore fans because Golovkin dropped 7 pounds…Can you hear Tark, Bears, Lion King and the rest protesting that FMJ drained this dude when the day prior they were sure he would stop Floyd in 4 rounds? This is a nonsense bout that ain’t happening time for you worms to accept it’s gonna take a WW to beat FMJ..

Posted June 8, 2014 11:31 pm

Posted June 9, 2014 4:32 am 


Prince

Roach always talks like that after one of his fighters wins. No need to listen to such nonsense!

Posted June 9, 2014 4:15 am 


Old Coot

No way Floyd would rematch Cotto… NOOOOO WAY!!!

Posted June 9, 2014 4:12 am 


Auzbox

We can all forget the floyd fight. He has a fight in December meaning cotto

Posted June 9, 2014 3:44 am 


Anonymous

The most knowledgeable and respected fight scribe on ESB, Joe Herron, totally agreed with Shields.

LMAO

Posted June 9, 2014 3:37 am 


Demonyo

Peej, te tumbo, and boxtradamus are Floydiots, so these guys will never say bad about their idol/employer. Waste of time. I’m sure they pleasure themselves looking at Floyd’s naked poster.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:11 am 


Havoc

Peej: sorry to say but you are a fool!

Posted June 9, 2014 3:00 am 


Demonyo

Floyd will never win his fights if he cannot control the venue (must be Vegas where xylocaine is legal), ref (must not rule any knockdown against Floyd-ala Judah fight), judges and cherrypick opponents (must be slow as molasses plodders where his overhyped speed shines).

Posted June 9, 2014 2:59 am 


PEEJ

only a fool would say he isn’t the best right now. Pays the refs. You are out of your mind.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:54 am 


Havoc

No body can beat Floyd as long as he remains a diva! Floyd demands everything to get an advantage of everything in the fight. If he is face a power puncher he demands a bigger gloves. If he face a fast young fighter he demands a bigger gloves plus bigger ring size. And then if that doesn’t work he pay the ref extra bonus if he wins. Anything and everything to get an advantage you name it Floyd will demand it. Only a fool person will believe Floyd is the best in boxing. I tell you this he is the best if picking his opponents and demanding everything in his favor and who ever believe and idolize him is just plain blind an in the wrong side of truth! I want a good clean fight with skills and heart! True Champion!

Posted June 9, 2014 2:42 am 


PEEJ

Dang it. I thought Bradleys trainer was related to Garcia. But they just didn’t like each other. I thought they were brothers.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:26 am 


Auzbox

Actually peej yes Bradley’s trainer is Joel Diaz

Posted June 9, 2014 2:20 am 


Auzbox

900k for the most expensive showtime card in history, bet they are not happy since with a cheaper outlay they got 2.2 mill buys.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:16 am 


Chairman of the Board

Auz the Floyd vs Maidana PPV number is 900,000 buys.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:10 am 


Auzbox

Bradley on a run from 09 beat 3 undefeated fighters 21-0 27-0 and 29-0 he was no bum. Might not punch hard but neither does floyd

Posted June 9, 2014 2:09 am 


PEEJ

For some reason every time I think of Garcia I am thinking of Danny Garcia.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:05 am 


PEEJ

Bradley didn’t stop Alexander. It was a technical decision. And Bradley was only a titlest, he never was champ. Not diminishing Pacs win but he was only a titlest.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:05 am 


Auzbox

No I only know of fighters Diaz, but there could be that I don’t know of

Posted June 9, 2014 2:03 am 


TARK

And people who claim Pacquiao’s win over Bradley is meaningless are nuts… Bradley was a 30-0 Two-Division World Champion, who beat many world champions… including being the only Champion to stop Alexander, who beat Maidana.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:02 am 


PEEJ

My fault. I don’t even know a trainer named Diaz now that you corrected me and said Garcia. Is there a diaz?

Posted June 9, 2014 1:59 am 


TARK

Right PEEJ… Get your facts straight… He’s with Garcia

Posted June 9, 2014 1:58 am 


Auzbox

He’s not with Diaz he is with rob Garcia

Posted June 9, 2014 1:51 am 


PEEJ

It doesn’t show his age at all. So what he missed a few times. He still landed more than Maidana and made Maidana miss more times than he has ever missed before. Maidana is an awkward fighter is all. Especially since he has been with Diaz.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:50 am 


macho

Mayweather won’t last five rounds with Manny.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:47 am 


Auzbox

Peej floyd swung a few times and missed by miles. Floyd making people miss is nothing new. Floyd missing by more than inches shows age

Posted June 9, 2014 1:39 am 


PEEJ

Maidana didn’t make Floyd easily miss. Actually Floyd made Maidana easily miss. Maidana style is just awkward. And since he has been with Diaz his style has improved tremendously.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:35 am 


Happyboy

Iron Mike Tyson – facts, keep me happy.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:30 am 


Happyboy

Auzbox – True, a prime Mosley.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:29 am 


Auzbox

Mayweather couldn’t school maidana so I wouldn’t bet on it to much. Maidana made floyd miss easily

Posted June 9, 2014 1:28 am 


teflon

Floyd schools Cotto again easily no matter how good he has gotten he is still the same fighter he is too slow for Floyd. MW schooled Canelo and Marquez easy as well Manny couldnt…

Posted June 9, 2014 1:16 am 


Ok

Bradley sucks he was p4p#3 but he hasnt fought anyone worth talking about until Manny faces. Floyd, Danny Garcia, and Canelo he is not going to be considered the best or even close to it. Marquez dropped him even a win over him at this point would do minimal for his career big fights are with big name fighters and unfortunately Arum is preventing it Ruslan is his old sparring partner, people are not interested in how great you where up by today, even in his rematch with Bradley Manny was unimpressive he looked old and winded and he took breaks in rounds a more experienced and determined fighter would have smoked him.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:13 am 


Tojoe

What kind of title is this article, sounds broken up words and meaning.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:10 am 


Mike Tyson

Happyboy your should be a optimistic guy, be happy.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:04 am 


Auzbox

Cotto beat the best Moseley before mayweather did

Posted June 9, 2014 1:03 am 


Happyboy

Freddie Roach is an expert at cherrypicking fighters on the decline eg; Pac vs Morales II & III, Pac vs ODH @ 147lbs after 10 years, Pac vs Mosley after Floyd beat him, Pac vs Margarito after getting busted with stuffed gloves and couldn’t KO a Tijuana cab driver, Cotto vs Martinez after knee surgery & ayear off. Freddie can’t teach new tricks as evident by Pac vs JMM 1-4. Freddie is an opportunist.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:00 am 


BEARS

this bout prooves those of us saying 3g was the best middle weight and martinez was not. sracemond was wrong son!!!

Posted June 9, 2014 12:58 am 


Mike Tyson

Damm another public shooting in LA. I went to wall mart yesterday and his security guard was right in front of the bank and stating right at me. He had shade so he out stared me, to day at the other branch at the mall I seen another security guard out side the door so I asked, and he said last week they had a robbery so they got guard at each branch man that big bucks. Bank robbery are dime a dozen so don’t under stand what up? They can’t keep it up talking big buck. Crazy…

Posted June 9, 2014 12:58 am 


PEEJ

Pac is still a great fighter. Can’t argue with what he has done recently. No not the same but still a great fighter. I find it funny how we argue over great fighters and their accomplishments. Makes me laugh

Posted June 9, 2014 12:55 am 


PEEJ

yeah I read all those but they all say their source says its an estimated. So I will wait till they come out with numbers. Either way it do as well as they expected. Unfortunately having PPVs every month, sometimes twice a month is just not healthy. Only reason I can afford it is because I get 50% off my cable bill since I’m a manager for the phone company.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:54 am 


Auzbox

Get over it: no he isn’t the same fighter but he still just beat the #3 p4p fighter in the world so he is still doing ok

Posted June 9, 2014 12:50 am 


Mike Tyson

Type in 900 ppv floyd and maidana, I seen 900 k was anounced at boxing scene. 24 hour say 800-900 ppv at that search.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:48 am 


get over it

Pac is not the same fighter he got KTFO by Marquez a 40 year old Mexican. He never KOed Bradley, Rios so saying he is dangerous at this point remains to be seen. No one is afraid of him people seem to forget he lost 5 times. In 09 he put on a string of wins very impressive since then what has he done? No one is stupid enough to dehydrate themselves to fight himand Arum has made many promises and produced nothing. Canelo, Danny Garcia, Floyd I guarantee you none of these fights will ever happen.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:47 am 


PEEJ

well as far as I could find the numbers haven’t been released yet. But whatever. You may have seen an article that I haven’t. Yeah terrible about obama care. Ridiculous.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:41 am 


Mike Tyson

Peej it’s 900 k times are hard money tight going forward Obama care started get insured or pay 1 k year end.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:29 am 


Mike Tyson

Yea rich, I hate roach advice to PAC, he got PAC kock out saying many need this ko by 5 or he lose on fight 4, stupid thing to say, PAC has enought pressure and knock out goes both ways. Jmm throw his favorite combo blindly when ever he think PAC comming on that a right cross and follow with a left upper cut PAC taugh jmm was hurt so he ran into that punch trying to finish.
If PAC had all 12 round he woould have won .

Posted June 9, 2014 12:23 am 


turbo hamster on tequila

Okay so Sredmond NOW do you have GGG ranked above Martinez?

Posted June 9, 2014 12:17 am 


Mike Tyson

So who going to anounce a fight first PAC or Floyd ? LOL .I think the all in Oscar court. Oyea reed ring mag new issuer, Oscar talks. Didn’t know richard chalange Oscar, in short he told Oscar that he the CEO not you the CEO run the company not the president and untill he not the CEO he make the decission. Guess he taught he was safe. LOL
Oscar said he never had trouble with his manager team he mention someone and praise him and said that sometime you have to shake the tree and if the bad one fall out then so be it.

So he fired him, and Richard said no he didn’t sight a new contract. Oscar lied. Oscar sad that he going to be very very active and run the promoting team and negoacition and duties and he going to be very busy going forward and he wants that, he talks about equality for fight pver and o er and that his mission one boxing league again. Good read check it out.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:16 am 


Jim Rich

That is the thing about martinez he always kept his hands low like roy and he used to be able to get away with it, and was also a good relaxation resting position. Martinez doesn’t have the footwork and agility to fight with his hands down anymore so he is done. Cotto always had better technical defensive skills with regards to holding hands up to block shots but that doesn’t mean in their prime cotto would have beat martinez. Martinez style was more of a natural athletic style and cotto more of a schooled learned style. I pick martinez anyday if he was in prime shape but its over for him now. Every fighter has flaws but again this is not the althletic fighter of old in martinez, I’m not going try say oh martinez didn’t bring his hand up after throwing jabs, he never has and it hasn’t ever cost him a fight before. He’s just to old to fight his style anymore. So cotto has a style you can take it a little farther into the years for better or worse. It’s his life but I don’t think cotto knows when to quit. And what is it with all the tatoos, is that prove something or mean something I’m not sure but cotto is tattoo up pretty good. The tattoos I really don’t get it any more than the one on mike tyson face, doesn’t proof anything except perhaps you have some mental issues that need be addressed. And cotto isn’t comming out saying he can beat mayweather its roach that comes out saying this. Roach is a bit of a roach, cockroach I think.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:13 am 


PEEJ

the one thing about Maidana is he doesn’t throw the text book punches. Cotto does. He would be better defensively against Cotto than Maidana. Plus Cotto doesn’t foul like Maidana and I don’t see Cotto trying to knee anybody in the nuts either.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:09 am 


PEEJ

as for the PPV numbers for Floyd vs Maidana, yeah seems like they may be low since they have yet to report them. Last I read they said it did a mil but have yet to get all the numbers. There is nothing set so nobody knows but from the outside looking in I would say it did under a million.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:08 am 


Mike Tyson

Jim rich.
It’s Martinez low right jabbing hand. That no contest for cotto both hight hands even after he throw he bring it back up high. Martinez no. Better trained habit payed off. A -class

Mike Tyson

There is a rules in boxing you first learn is to keep them up both hand in front go your face boy.
There is a reason for that , as the oponate can’t see a opening and has create one. If its open you can hit there derectly up close, but farther away you can fake a right hand hook and as you get closer hook that left, and he have no time bringing that left up. unprotected right side opens up the other side.pluss Sergio can’t fight inside he better outside as he a boxer, he fought cotto fight.
Keep them up boys your not or Floyd or roy. Scratch another boxer off the

Posted June 9, 2014 12:00 am 


Auzbox

Yeh that was strange that he turned away

Posted June 8, 2014 11:59 pm 


Mike Tyson

Good thing Martinez didn’t hit cotto from behing in the 6-8 round he was 1 secound away, cotto taught he hear the bell ring and was walking back to his corner, ( anouncer what cotto doing?) and Martinez ran really ran after cotto and was about to throw a punch on the back of cotto head and the bell rang. He looked silly and desperate. But hats off to him he gave no excuse, just he was hit cold and never recovered.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:53 pm 


Auzbox

I’m not sure if cotto can beat mayweather but if mayweathers best now is what he dished up against maidana then maybe Father Time is and should be enough and retire happy

Posted June 8, 2014 11:49 pm 


Jim Rich

I hadn’t watched martinez lately i didn’t know physically he was down the drain. Martinez should retire but cotto is not as good as he was in his prime, not that he ever was a bad fighter. Cotto is a good fighter but against top tier ready competition he just can’t compete good enough to win was my opioion. Matinez isn’t top tier, he’s like the old heavyweight corrie sanders who KO Vlad and took Vitali deep in to a fight only to get ko with a body shot from nobody. Beating up a an old injured fighter doesn’t prove anything except your not as shot a fighter as he was. I mean if cotto can somehow get a huge payday again floyd more power to him but he ain’t on mayweather level. And to say somehow cotto beat the same martinez that beat pavlik and ko williams is not the case. Everyone knows some fighters older fighter can decline suddenly in physical ability. Martinez mostly was endurance and agility that won him his fights and once that is gone there just ain’t much left, same thing with roy jones, take his speed endurance away not much left. Cotto won but he been in one to many wars already my concern is he gets beat to a pulp like he did against margarito, so cotto can do what he wants if someone puts him in a wheelchair for the rest of his life because he took one to many fights no one will feel sorry for his own stupidity but its his life he can keep fighting to long if he wants to.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:47 pm 


Anonymous

Last nights version of Cotto can certainly beat floyd. If Cotto could draw blood from floyd’s nose such as in the first fight, considering Floyd got his ass kicked by Maidana and a rematch at the MW limit, Floyd would be in over his head.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:45 pm 


Auzbox

Well then again sredmond people calling PAC out when he started at 106 is also silly isn’t it?

Posted June 8, 2014 11:44 pm 


The Prince

Auzbox – Apology accepted.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:44 pm 


SREDMOND

Yeah GGG is really the man calling guys out that began at 130? That are now 37? They should move up again to accommodate this media construct and monument to matchmaking? GTFOH..

Posted June 8, 2014 11:40 pm 


Auzbox

I apologise prince it was largo

Posted June 8, 2014 11:39 pm 


Mike Tyson

Missing martinez was bouncing all o er the place in front of cotto like broner, too excited .

Posted June 8, 2014 11:38 pm 


Auzbox

But split don’t discredit his win with bad knees. Everytime a fighter wins no one can just say well done. Cotto yesterday, PAC in April, may in may. They all won in pretty good fashion lads

Posted June 8, 2014 11:38 pm 


The Prince

Auzbox – Question: Find the post where I said Manny didn’t stand a chance against Bradley? I’m sure I said the opposite. You don’t have to agree with my points, but don’t make up lies.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:38 pm 


SREDMOND

PAC already beat Bradley we saw that before and truth is Bradley did better the second time.. You are more awed by Maidana losing to Mayweather than Manny get knocked Cold by an FMJ plaything.. Your pretty illogical and YES Cottos record over the span is relevant it shows he has been inconsistent as much as I respect him and the guy who started that losing streak was Floyd Mayweather Jr… Cotto is the same guy, even though he was brilliant last night..

Posted June 8, 2014 11:37 pm 


Mike Tyson

Yea under 900 k. Anybody saw the whole fight ? Martinez look like a amature in the fight. He was punching all in front of cotto trying to avoild punches, and was mostly hitting arms, and cotto was wasting no energy no wasted movements but foward he could have gone that way all night.
Totally a Diffrence upper class fighters

Posted June 8, 2014 11:37 pm 


split_decision

All I have to say is give me a break. Cotto looked great and thank goodness Freddie brought that left hook back but lets not get carried away people. Sergios knees are shot and although I was suprised and a bit impressed with Cottos performance this fight in no way indicates he can beat Floyd. Or Canelo.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:35 pm 


Auzbox

Your right GGG would get beat at 154 but he puts may in a coffin at 160. Who may going to fight at 147?

Posted June 8, 2014 11:33 pm 


Auzbox

Anyone got ppv numbers from may v maidana yet. They seem to be hiding them which means they are poor. They would of def been in by now. Interesting to see how yesterday went in numbers card was pretty good

Posted June 8, 2014 11:31 pm 


SREDMOND

Floyd beats GGG at 154 he has a PPV against an unknown to casual fans AND he gets knocked by hardcore fans because Golovkin dropped 7 pounds…Can you hear Tark, Bears, Lion King and the rest protesting that FMJ drained this dude when the day prior they were sure he would stop Floyd in 4 rounds? This is a nonsense bout that ain’t happening time for you worms to accept it’s gonna take a WW to beat FMJ..

Posted June 8, 2014 11:31 pm 


Auzbox

Mike Tyson 147 thurman. Sredmond saying cotto is 2-2 in last 4 means nothing. PAC is 2-2 also and beat the 3rd best fighter on the planet p4p. You can get hungry again, and cotto looked hungry and he was ripped. Didn’t look overweight

Posted June 8, 2014 11:30 pm 


Mike Tyson

What weight is Thurman fighting at?

Posted June 8, 2014 11:27 pm 


SREDMOND

Golovkin is not relevant in a discussion of Cotto or Mayweathers next choices… These are veteran/HOF fighters that are gonna do what it takes to make $$$$$ that they deserve after facing between them MORE WORLD CHAMPS and having more Championship bouts than Golovkin has fights… It’s either Cotto vs Mayweather 2 or Canelo vs Cotto the money is in these 2 fights.. Golovkin is a bit of a media construct with no fanbase outside the hardcore, Cotto is not gonna campaign at 160 unless he is stupid he is 2-2 in his last 4 bouts 2 of those losses came at 154..

Posted June 8, 2014 11:27 pm 


Tachyon

Auzbox true but Triple G is a natural middle weight meaning he drain about 8 pounds makes weight then goes back up on fight night. Cotto is smaller. Mayweather fighting Cotto fight night would be closer to 154 than fighting triple G who would hydrate to 160+. Maywather has stayed at 147 to 150 his entire career no use throw that away against a guy who will hydrate 20 pounds heaver than you are. Triple G should go up in weight fight Cotto, Ward, Froch, Sturm, even old B-Hop would drop down in weight “if he was honest”

Posted June 8, 2014 11:26 pm 


Mike Tyson

Cotto not leaving top rank now. Yes he a free agent too.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:26 pm 


Mike Tyson

Yea but that my point roach work with top rank and Floyd not dealing with top rank or GBP. And cotto not labeling top rank because roach there. He needs roach now. He found his coach that works.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:25 pm 


Auzbox

Tyson but what I’m saying is what if he feels that 147 is to heavy and can keep as strong and as powerful at 140? Garcia wants to go up anyway. Another good fight is Garcia v thurman

Posted June 8, 2014 11:24 pm 


Auzbox

Prince, greats are rarely to past it. You gave manny no chance against an undefeated young fresh hungry Bradley and PAC done it easy and fought at about 80 percent.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:23 pm 


Mike Tyson

He say he can but that stupid. Stay at your best fighting weight. 147 lb -150lb all it does if f/ucks up the comparison table even more.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:22 pm 


Auzbox

No Tyson cotto is a free agent

Posted June 8, 2014 11:22 pm 


Auzbox

Why not fight Garcia? His power isn’t what it once was but at a lower weight would be stronger. That’s my personal opinion but who knows. I would like to see him avenge Marquez but at what cost. They both are only getting older and then the next fight is against a young fresh hungry lion. Marquez doesn’t beat prov and Garcia I don’t believe

Posted June 8, 2014 11:21 pm 


Mike Tyson

I think Floyd fighting jmm again he the only free agent, cotto staying with top rank, he not leaving.
Jmm would take another shot at Floyd, he has nothing to lose he lost onces already
And Floyd stuck he need a opponate.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:20 pm 


Auzbox

PAC has stated he can make 135 and his natural weight is 140 he just chooses to fight bigger guys, at 147 he has gone up the same as floyd fighting super middle. Exactly the same no difference

Posted June 8, 2014 11:19 pm 


Mike Tyson

PAC shouldn’t fight Garcia at 140 lb he lose power and gain speed. He win but what to gain. He not fighting at 140 anymore so the point? to pick up Garcia? That going backward as fighting Marquez at 144lb was a mistake loseing power. He should fight him at 147 lb like Floyd did , he be more of what we saw vs Bradley.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:16 pm 


The Prince

Ray – You’re missing the point. Marquez had no problem moving up to 147 as you clearly saw twice with Pacquiao, if that’s what you’re saying. Top Rank made him wait until they thought he was past it, but he wasn’t past it and Manny learned that the hard way in the 3rd fight, and ran into a brick wall in the 4th fight. Remember, the only reason Marquez called out Mayweather, was because Top Rank wouldn’t give him the the 3rd fight. In fact, it was because Floyd outboxed Marquez so badly that Roach finally gave the okay for the fight to happen. Real history, Ray. Real history.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:12 pm 


Auzbox

When GGG said ill go to 154 mayweather says I am finishing at 147. Cotto said never at 147 again only 154 or above. Once again no point talking if mayweather is honest

Posted June 8, 2014 11:11 pm 


Auzbox

Marquez was really schooled by Bradley so against a class his last time out was average but then a c grade guy made him look good. Prov wants Marquez and he is a champ so Marquez why not?

Posted June 8, 2014 11:09 pm 


PEEJ

He could very well fight Cotto again. Remember Cotto started at 140 and Floyd stated at 130. That is the only reason he fought Cotto, Oscar and Canelo. They all started at lower weights. He doesn’t go for the fighters that started their careers at 154. After those 3 fights he said he felt he had better skills than all of them. But the key thing is they started at lower weights.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:07 pm 


Ray

The Prince. Jmm fights at 140 jr WW PAC was fighting fighter at 147 lb and cotto at 150 lb why would PAC returned to 140 lb. and remember PAC fought jmm at his best weight 144 lb Floyd fought him at 147 lb and jmm was 142 lb.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:06 pm 


Auzbox

Thurman v prov is a good fight on the undercard of PAC v Garcia. What you think?

Posted June 8, 2014 11:05 pm 


Auzbox

As I said we can sit here all day and go on about cotto v may but mayweather said he won’t so 154 ever again so unless he is a liar pointless talking about it.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:05 pm 


Auzbox

Marquez should face prov

Posted June 8, 2014 11:04 pm 


Tomato Can

No need for Pac to face Cotto or Provodnikov, when there are so many fighters to face outside of his trainers ring of fighters.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:03 pm 


Auzbox

I like manny v Garcia at 140.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:02 pm 


Manny Pacquiao The Hero

Tomato Can great comment. I too would want to see those kind of fights.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:02 pm 


Auzbox

Yeh maybe cotto does get them both, but manny said he will make 135 easy if they can get a good fight. Cotto won’t fight PAC again they are friends and weight is not even close at the minute

Posted June 8, 2014 11:01 pm 


Tomato Can

Hopefully with this GBP/Scheifer thing, we’ll get a chance at seeing Manny face some of the good opposition that GBP has to offer. Maidana, Garcia, Mathyesse, Thurman, and Porter would be great fights for Manny. These type of fights would offer fans a break from the same ole Manny/JMM fight or seeing Manny face a guy that’s currently trained by Roach.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:00 pm 


REM

Cotto is finally training like he was suppose to his whole career thanks to that strength and conditioning coach they brought in. Both Pac and Floyd would be in with a different animal conditioning wise. Floyd cant handle fighting regularly and Pac is an aged action fighter. I favor Cotto against both right now.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:59 pm 


Auzbox

Canelo v cotto is what should happen if he beats Lara

Posted June 8, 2014 10:59 pm 


Manny Pacquiao The Hero

Roach should take a break and take that beautiful ring girl in the back ground on a date. Great win for Cotto and Roach.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:58 pm 


Auzbox

Prince if your talking PAC v cotto at a catch weight your WRONG as usual. Cotto was a 147 fighter and fought PAC at 145. Mayweather made canelo drop 2 pounds also. So don’t bring up catch weight unless you want to discredit may v canelo

Posted June 8, 2014 10:57 pm 


Tomato Can

All I know is there are many good fighters out there. If Cotto is able to get Mayweather in the ring again, I’ll congratulate him, cause he’ll be one of the last to face Mayweather for a huge payday. If it happens I’ll favor Mayweather to win by a larger margin than their first fight. But with few fights left for Mayweather at this point, any fighter that gets that chance will try and make the most of it, cause beating even an old Mayweather is a ticket to stardom…. Cotto is one of the few fighters that have earned the right to face May. Lara though great hasn’t. Lara could change that with an impressive win over Alvarez. Both Thurman and Porter would be a hand full for Mayweather, but neither have really earned the appeal. GGG, could trash Mayweather at 154, but unfortunately he’s not in any position to get the fight… As it stands Maidana and Cotto are the front runners to possibly have a chance at de-throwning Mayweather. Personally I hope Cotto gets the fight as it showcases two technically gifted fighters that’ll put on a great show for the boxing purest.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:56 pm 


The Prince

Roach loves matching his fighters up against people at the down turn of their career, or at a catchweight. Remember, Top Rank made Marques wait years until they thought he was past his time before they allowed the 3rd fight. I’m sure Roach was shocked when Marquez was still willing and able to give Pacquiao nightmares. And the 4th fight…

Posted June 8, 2014 10:55 pm 


Auzbox

No sredmond manny did. Bradley was 3 p4p only after you all picked Bradley to win easy did you discredit PAC.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:55 pm 


Auzbox

Well no ghetto that’s not true. GGG said he wants mayweather and mayweather said no he can’t make weight that high and struggled to make 152 so he shouldn’t want cotto unless he LIED

Posted June 8, 2014 10:54 pm 


Auzbox

No need to talk floyd v cotto as he will never fight above 147 and cotto never below 154 so let’s move on to canelo

Posted June 8, 2014 10:52 pm 


REM

Quillen was regarded as the best mw outside of Martinez and 3G. Compare Rosados performance against Quillen compared to his performance against 3G. 3G is worlds above Quillen. Like 3G said after the Stevens fight people in boxing knows whos who. 3Gs reputation in boxing is what it is for a reason. Ward is the only guy from 54-68 who would survive against this guy.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:49 pm 


Jb221

Why is roach calling out mayweather and not ggg or canelo because mayweather is not a middle weight

Posted June 8, 2014 10:48 pm 


SREDMOND

Knock and Freddy say anything above 150 is too much for Manny so he is never gonna fight Canelo or Cotto again, besides he stopped Cotto in the past.. Mannys facing guys more his size he can’t compete well at 154 and selling Rios as a proxy for how he would do at 154 makes me laugh, Rios never won a fight at 147..

Posted June 8, 2014 10:45 pm 


SREDMOND

AUZ it all ends with FMJ and NO ONE fought top 5 P4P guys in their last 4 fights there are not that many in a weight range. Your metric is SILLY, you are pumping up Manny cause he beat Brandon Rios coming off a loss at 147 for the first time in a rehab bout.. Mayweather would be attacked for facing an opponent in Rios condition..

Posted June 8, 2014 10:41 pm 


Auzbox

Not true people talk about either who they don’t like or who they like. PAC gets more numbers on his feed on esb so eat that up

Posted June 8, 2014 10:40 pm 


Auzbox

Cotto v PAC doesn’t hold any weight they train together so that fight will never happen. And going of floyd if he is telling the truth that fight can’t happen either as he is never fighting above 147. So it will have to be canelo

Posted June 8, 2014 10:39 pm 


PEEJ

Cotto would stand a better chance against Pac now because from his last few fights he does not seem to be punching with as much power as he used to. So I think it would be more competitive but Pac still beats Cotto. Floyd still beats Cotto. People tend to forget Floyd had Cotto on noodles in the 12th round. So saying he can’t hurt Cotto is misinformation.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:34 pm 


SREDMOND

Cotto was NOT a true MW last night he was 155 1/2 and worked hard to get to that weight he’s a small JR MW and Floyd’s a small WW if they fight again it will be likely at 154 which is still not Floyd’s best weight, if Freddy has somehow changed a guy with 42 bouts over 2 training camps then this should be no issue.. Cotto cannot dictate to FMJ as much as I respect him..

Posted June 8, 2014 10:34 pm 


REM

Another sad day….lmao that blown up lw had a 10 lb weight advantage against Pac and Pac had a head growing out of Rios eye. It looked like Rios was beaten with a bat. That’s just one amazing lil fella.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:33 pm 


Auzbox

Well peej then floyd will not be able to fight cotto as he will never be a welter again and floyd will never do 154 again. And sredmond once again no it doesn’t end with floyd his past 4 fights haven’t been great. Not top 5 p4p guys

Posted June 8, 2014 10:32 pm 


massey

Who in the hell did this scarry ggg beat. The same guy who’s ducking Ward. The same guy who Laura said if he’s so bad ill fight him. Then tweeted ggg asking for the fight. The same guy who said ill face anyone from 160 to 168. Then Ward said he want to fight in his manager said maybe latter down the line. Of curse Sergio ducked, could we blame him. The same dangerously ggg that Canelo punished in sparring. Yea ggg is a bad asss. Long is it C or maybe B fighters.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:31 pm 


Auzbox

Well pactard manny fought cotto at 145 when he was a 147 fighter so if you say cotto wasn’t right and weight drained for manny then floyds win against canelo is void to also a 2 pound weight difference. Cotto had only ever weighed 147 for any previous fight haha to bad

Posted June 8, 2014 10:30 pm 


SREDMOND

Naturally all these discussions END with Floyd Mayweather because he’s the best in the sport… Suddenly Cotto is a new guy even though he is 2-2 in his last 4 fights including a loss to Mayweather! Cotto is one of my favorite boxers and last night he was FAR more dominant than he has looked in a long time.. That said expecting him to duplicate that against other MW’s or Floyd is just excitement, Cotto and Canelo would be a good fight to be honest I’m not sold that Cotto can duplicate that result consistently..

Posted June 8, 2014 10:28 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd has said he is not a Jr Middle. He is going to give his titles and championship belt up and finish his career at Welter.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:27 pm 


PEEJ

Didn’t know Shields was training him. Whatever puss, you think he can I think he can’t. So what. Your till a BTICH and that won’t change LionQueer.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:26 pm 


Another sad day for Pactards

PAC would never fight Cotto at 154. He would make Cotto come in at 148 for a middleweight fight.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:24 pm 


REM

Please keep that coldblooded killer 3G away from my boy Cotto lol. Im very happy for what Cotto accomplished last night but 3G is head and shoulders above every mw in the world. The guy has a solid reputation in the boxing world for a reason and his reign of terror is coming soon. Right now Quillen would be the only mw id want Cotto to fight. But really the matchups for Cotto is another juicy ripe for the picking Floyd and Canelo. Cottos taken 2 severe beatings in his career hes earned the right to bypass 3G.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:24 pm 


Another sad day for Pactards

Martinez is no HOF…..pacroide couldn’t even knock down a fat blown up lightweight Rios.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:22 pm 


Tachyon

Auzbox floyd never really makes 154 when he fights why the hell would he try middle weight? Cotto wants him he has to come down to 154 and get beat again. You a real rematch Pac should go up to 154 and fight Cotto.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:22 pm 


Auzbox

Floyd when asked about a potential fight against GGG said he can’t make middleweight so I hope he doesn’t contradict himself because cotto has the title. But wouldn’t be the first time he has lied

Posted June 8, 2014 10:16 pm 


Auzbox

We will see peej won’t we 52-3 not a bad record I think he will be but it’s not decided yet. Doesn’t matter what floyd did. Floyd isn’t what he was. Maidana made floyd miss easily so cotto can and cotto would kill maidana DEAD

Posted June 8, 2014 10:14 pm 


PEEJ

Martinez is no Hall of Famer

Posted June 8, 2014 10:11 pm 


smwJT

Auzbox floyd out boxed cotto before he was back with his father and approaching a jail sentence his defence is too good and hands to fast martinez was exposed last night he’s been scrapping past B level fighter the past 3-4 years

Posted June 8, 2014 10:10 pm 


Auzbox

Roach chooses his next opponent and if floyd dishes up what he did against maidana it is a lot closer than people think if that’s what roach decides. I would rather he takes out the best canelo first then takes the floyd fight.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:07 pm 


smwJT

GGG v cotto alot closer than people think ,GGG has crazy power but who has he fought ? Canelo and cotto gives him problems and Lara comfortably outboxs him

Posted June 8, 2014 10:06 pm 


Auzbox

Have you all noticed that roach trains fighters to knock down hall of famers 3 times in the first round, lightning does strike twice.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:05 pm 


SREDMOND

Cotto vs FMJ or Canelo is gonna do HUGE biz we already saw FMJ defeat him 2 years ago but the Martinez win makes it sellable but Floyd will simply outbox Cotto again and the whiners will whine.. Contrary to popular belief, Cotto has not learned anything that’s gonna make him better against Floyd it’s been 2 training camps and one fight that lasted what 4 rounds?(Rodriguez)

Posted June 8, 2014 10:03 pm 


smwJT

Wat happened Martinez knees , cottos left hook is wat happened it he couldn’t get away from them all night , mayweather easily out boxs cotto at any weight , cotto v GGG r Canelo next I think

Posted June 8, 2014 10:01 pm 


PEEJ

Then why has he never made it LionQueer? And that is my point you idiot. He hasn’t made less than 154 since his amateur days and that was way before he turned pro. The lowest he has been is 159. If he can make 154 why doesn’t he do it instead of trying to go to 168 and fight someone? And he also stated he would do it to fight Floyd. Sounds to me like he would drain himself for a payday. Can you comprehend? And what does him making 154 have anything to do with Floyd? Only haters like you keep bringing up Floyd. This isn’t even a Floyd thread dumb dumb

Posted June 8, 2014 9:52 pm 


PEEJ

And now I see you are a key board warrior. Figures. Thats what little BTICHs are.

Posted June 8, 2014 9:28 pm 


PEEJ

Sorry little puss, he has never made 154 in his pro career. As a matter of fact the closest he has been to 154 is 159. So until he actually makes it then it is my opinion that he can’t. Dawson said the same thing and you were probably one of the little BTICHs on here saying he was drained. Difference is Dawson actually made 168 in his career. GGG has never made 154 in his career.

Posted June 8, 2014 9:27 pm 


PEEJ

Tojoe, so its ok to bash Floyd because you are just being a hater and if someone shows your hateful bashing is crap that makes me a Floyd lover. Don’t matter to me, you obviously use other names so really your opinion means nothing to me.

Posted June 8, 2014 9:12 pm 


PEEJ

LionQueer I stopped reading your post once you insulted me. You didn’t prove crap. Saying GGG has no muscle and no fat and yet you claim he can make 154. How if he has nothing to lose you? You didn’t do crap. Your come back is calling me beej. Like I have never heard that before. Doesn’t change the fact that your still a BTICH

Posted June 8, 2014 9:10 pm 


Tojoe

Peej is mayweather sr. Protector
holding back the competition progress is just as important. And full time work.

Posted June 8, 2014 9:00 pm 


REM

Yeah as much as I like the sound of Cotto being the favorite he just wont be on the betting lines. But man Floyd is so ripe for the picking right now pick that fruit fast its about to spoil.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:49 pm 


Argy Bargy

Correctomundo
I think your name change is a bit like Bradley Manning to Chelsea Manning. Good luck with the hormone therapy.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:35 pm 


Havoc

Cotto vs Alvarez! Pacman vs Khan! Floyd vs. Hopkins!

Posted June 8, 2014 8:31 pm 


Tomato Can

Quillen is easiest for Cotto, IMO. But that’s only because Quillen is still green. He has a huge size advantage over Cotto though.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:29 pm 


tu ma dre

Tark. U r right, i was way off on my last post. Just remember being scared for pac at beggining of fight when he got his head snapped in first round for some reason i thoufht it was a few more rounds. But no, my bad u r correct. My post was ludicrous!!! Watching fight gain now. Peace!!

Posted June 8, 2014 8:16 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Tark … which fight is easiest for Cotto:

– Mayweather?
– Alvarez?
– Golovkin?
– Quillen?

I would say that among these 4 potential fights — Mayweather is the easiest fight for Cotto. Mayweather can’t hurt Cotto whereas Alvarez, Golovkin, and Quillen could hurt Cotto.

Among these 4 potential fights — Mayweather vs. Cotto is the easiest for Cotto. But I would not do that fight if I were Cotto.

The best fight for Cotto would be Cotto vs. Alvarez which is a more difficult fight for Cotto but much, much bigger money.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:15 pm 


TARK

Love-the-Sport says.., “I think this is the easiest fight for Cotto as Mayweather is showing less mobility while Cotto is showing more mobility and strength. I think Cotto would be favored in a rematch.”

LMAO…. Cotto favored over Floyd.. NO! ..He’d have to beat Floyd first, and he’d be favored in a rubber match.

Mayweather would never be “easy.” Floyd would probably beat Cotto, pick up a middleweight title, and jump back down to WW to avoid GGG..

But will Floyd risk doing that? Cotto is very happy right now.. He’s in a great place mentally with Roach, compared to how sad he was with Diaz. Floyd sees this.

Floyd is determined to fight Khan, and that’s what he’s going to do. All those machinations to get Khan a Collazo fight on the May-Maidana card was not done for nothing. You push those levers for a reason.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:09 pm 


REM

No secret Pac is my favorite fighter but he might be in for a long night against Cotto at this point in his career.

Posted June 8, 2014 7:56 pm 


Love-the-Sport

I think Cotto has several options:

– Mayweather
– Alvarez
– Golovkin
– Quillen

Cotto vs. Mayweather is an good but not great PPV event. I think the first Cotto vs. Mayweather fight did around 1.3 million buys. I don’t think a rematch would be higher. I think this is the easiest fight for Cotto as Mayweather is showing less mobility while Cotto is showing more mobility and strength. I think Cotto would be favored in a rematch but I don’t think it is a huge money fight.

Cotto vs. Alvarez is the big money fight with big mexican audience, big puerto rican audience, big overall audience. Cotto vs. Alvarez has the chance to both break the Delahoya vs. Mayweather PPV (2.5?) and break the Mayweather vs. Alvarez dollar record. This is the best fight for the Cotto given the risk.

Cotto vs. Golovkin is good but not great money fight. I don’t Golovkin has been on PPV so nobody knows what he would draw. Golovkin does not have a big hispanic base of fans or other ethnic population that is big in the US. Given that Golovkin would be big puncher and favored against Cotto there is no reason for Cotto to do this fight.

Cotto vs. Quillen is high risk and low reward for Cotto. I don’t think anybody knows who Quillen is … I think Quillen has long arms and height. He could frustrate Cotto like Trout. Keep distance. Jab and move and beat Cotto in a boring fight. Why bother fighting and losing to Quillen in a fight that can’t draw any PPV.

I think the next move for Cotto is Alvarez and the world of boxing would root for a great fight and a rematch and those two fights would make both Mayweather and Pacquiao irrelevant in terms of big PPV events.

Posted June 8, 2014 7:54 pm 


TARK

Cotto didn’t outbox Pac for 4 rounds… That’s ludicrous.

Pacquiao is a damned slick boxer when he tries to be. Anyone can run into shots if they’re looking for a KO. If you don’t look for one it has a better chance of showing up.

Posted June 8, 2014 7:48 pm 


TARK

Papo.., How about if Lara beats Canelo? I want to see May-Lara or Lara-Cotto.

I don’t see those fights happening. Lara is so quick it’s scary. He can put a shot on the fastest dude, and he’s getting better.

Maybe Golovkin-Lara

Posted June 8, 2014 7:43 pm 


tu ma dre

I think smart boxing cotto beats pac. When he fought pac, he had no corner, and fought a dumb fight. He got reckless against pac and got caught. Cotto was out boxing pac for 4 rounds. Check fight again, pac was gettin his head snapped back by jabs!! Oh well, wont c rematch. But at least we get to c cotto vs ggg, chavez jr, floyd, or canelo. All great match ups

Posted June 8, 2014 7:42 pm 


Hecdog

Cotto would also get badly beaten by the legendary Manny Pacquiao. Cotto had a great win against an aging Martinez, but all of the young guns in the 147-160 divisions would be too much for Cotto, trust me on this. And I like Cotto, but these guys would be too much.

Posted June 8, 2014 7:26 pm 


Papo

A few years back Floyd would have out boxed Cotto easily due to his superior boxing skills and counterpunching ability. Even soon after Floyd decision Cotto, I felt Floyd fought the wrong fight and for sure would have been much more mobile if a rematch took place. However, that was over two years ago and two years in boxing, especially for veterans fighters, is a very long time.

I will never take anything away from Floyd, as I believe he’s one of the best gifted fighters of this era, but time waits for no one. Though many feel he chose to trade against Maidana just to prove a point, I see it different. He cannot longer move around the ring as he used to and that may be his downfall against a hard hitting puncher like Cotto.

So perhaps meaningless to some due to a less than stellar opponent, Cotto proved against Delvin Rodriguez that he has skills, especially by cutting off the ring. I believe Cotto’s ability to cut off the ring, strong jab and punching power may pose big problems for Floyd. Though I’d rather see Canelo-Cotto, if Canelo beats Lara that is, a Cotto-Floyd rematch would be interesting…and, at this stage, I favor Cotto.

Posted June 8, 2014 7:25 pm 


Hecdog

GGG will destroy Miguel Cotto. This is not a fight I would like to see. GGG would be too much for Cotto. I would bet the mortgage, cars, retirement and everything I have that Cotto would get knocked out. GGG beats him in all areas and would physically maul Cotto.

Posted June 8, 2014 7:24 pm 


TARK

Cotto would do much better in a rematch with Mayweather… but I don’t want to see that fight.

If Lara beats Canelo I want to see May-Lara… I want to see May-Porter… I want to see May-Thurman… I want to see May-Pac

And I want to see Golovkin-Cotto.

Posted June 8, 2014 6:54 pm 


Macho Gabacho

Why would Floyd want to fight Cotto again? He already clearly beat him, Cotto is better now than he was when he fought Floyd, and if Floyd beats him at 160, then there will be a lot of pressure on him to fight Golovkin. I can’t see it happening. I’d rather see Cotto fight Golovkin or Canelo (if he beats Lara).

Posted June 8, 2014 6:52 pm 


Tachyon

I see Roach did not even mention Pac man vs Cotto 2 at 154 LOL LOL LOL. Cotto knock Pac out again.

Posted June 8, 2014 6:50 pm 


BEARS

floyd vs cotto 2 would be the ultimate garbage

Posted June 8, 2014 6:48 pm 


TARK

Watching Cotto-Martinez 24/7 last night, I was shocked at his weight training regimen. His strength trainer sucks doorknob

His strength trainer had Sergio doing curls and presses with barbells.. He was doing mini-squats with a barbell on his shoulders.. He was doing barbell curls on an apparatus that locked his arms on place. He was using machines that locked his wrists as he did presses and curls. He did hooking motions using 2 opposed pulleys at once.

Those techniques stress a boxer’s arms, shoulders, knees, elbows, and lower back. No wonder his body fell apart.

A boxer should do bench presses with dumbbells. They isolate the triceps, don’t build out the pectorals, and allow the wrists to turn naturally, which takes stress off the shoulders. A boxer should use plyometric jumps and sprints to strengthen his legs. A boxer should use dumbbells for curls so his wrists aren’t locked, and he can curl alternately more like a punching motion. A boxer uses one pulley at a time so his entire musculature benefits from the hooking motion. Using opposed pulleys stresses your arms and shoulders.

Posted June 8, 2014 6:45 pm 


Tachyon

Why doesn’t Roach fight Mayweather he seems to like calling him out all the time. Mayweather already fought Cotto at 154 rematch would end the same way.

Posted June 8, 2014 6:43 pm 


DADDY O

EZ E

PAPO Yes indeed! The way some Cotto-detractors sound, anybody (cab driver, plummer, retired male nurse, midget wrestler, short order cook, Danny DeVito, …) with a pulse could’ve manhandled and raped Sergio last night. LOL! Anyway, he gave many fans of ALL faiths, nationalities, colors and creeds a memorable night. Good for him!

@Papo & EZe Aint that the truth. Spot on posts guys. Looks like Cotto was too good for the haters to take. For real, I wanted Cotto to win but dint think he was gonna. Big props. Bet he was a big hit at the P.R. parade. Made his peeps proud.

Posted June 8, 2014 6:30 pm 


Anonymous

Should a rematch with Floyd take place, it should be for the MW title and not a catchweight. The Cotto of last night is a much better version than the one who Floyd fought. Floyd may have won last time at a different weight, but its not written in stone he can win a a heavier weight. We are all familiar with Floyds ridiculous demands and fighting at catchweight should be off the table. His performance last time will not dictate his “success” in the next fight should it actually happen. Floyd just got his ass kicked by a lightweight fighter in his last fight. I’m not convinced he would be victorious against last night’s version of Cotto, especially a MW. If Floyd did not dare tread deep waters with Sergio before Cotto, I doubt Floyd will even want a piece of Cotto now. But if I were Cotto, I’d let Floyd marinate in his own demise and be of no assistance to his career or pay day. In fact, Cotto should just say, “you don’t deserve to fight me,” or, “who have you beat lately,” or, ” fight Pac before I give you a shot.” You see, two can play the same game, albeit, ridiculous as it may be. Fortunately, Cotto is representative of the sport of boxing and would not stoop as low as Floyd. I think a fight between Canelo and Cotto brings more money than a rematch with Floyd. After Floyd’s last fight, is anyone really interested in seeing the same…….with Con no less???

Posted June 8, 2014 6:25 pm 


PEEJ

So basically people turned this into a Floyd thread instead of keeping it a Cotto thread. Great win by Cotto.

Posted June 8, 2014 6:25 pm 


The oracle of Delphi

Mayweather is ready for a loss. He deserves it and the oracle predicts it. Cotto is the man who can do it if he is in the same shape and frame of mind like yesterday. Mayweather is too afraid to fight Pacquiao, so that won’t happen. If I would have anything to say, I would prefer to see Cotto vs. Pac for the middleweight title.

Posted June 8, 2014 6:13 pm 


REM

Papo not Pappas lol pardon me

Posted June 8, 2014 6:05 pm 


Tomato Can

If Cotti can get the rematch with Mayweather, good for him he deserves it. I doubt he’ll fair any better, as a matter if fact Mayweather will more than likely beat him easier in a rematch. You gotta get Mayweather early as he has proved over and over again that he figures game plans and styles out. A rematch just gives Mayweather more canvas to work with even though his reign is drawing to a close.

Posted June 8, 2014 6:05 pm 


REM

Pappas great point about no one else having the stones to challenge Martinez. Bet they wish they did now.

Posted June 8, 2014 6:03 pm 


REM

Pappas great point about no one else having problems the stones to challenge Martinez. Bet they wish they did now.

Posted June 8, 2014 6:03 pm 


Anonymous

Chavez couldn’t beat a “shot” Martinez in 12 rounds but along comes “damaged” Cotto and puts on the best show of his career by stopping Martinez in 9 rounds. The naysayers and haters ( you know who you are) will chalk it up to Martinez being damaged but when he fought Chavez*, supposedly Chavez was robbed. C’mon, you can’t have it both ways.Your analogy is weak and futile, not to mention, short sighted.

Posted June 8, 2014 6:01 pm 


Tomato Can

Once again fanatics have turned a fighters great performance into a reason to degrade other fighters. I’m just happy I got to see Cotto get the long end of the stick for a change. He deserved it big time.

Posted June 8, 2014 6:01 pm 


Anonymous

Now, upon news that Floyd’s next fight may be with Con, he’s going to appear rather ridiculous doing so. Cotto just climbed a mountain and established a new legacy. Floyd basically fights to maintain zero losses, as if that were any criteria worth anything.

Posted June 8, 2014 5:40 pm 


PEEJ

Oh and the LionQueen once again coming with insults when nothing was said. What a little BTICH

Posted June 8, 2014 5:34 pm 


TARK

I want Golovkin-Cotto… To Hell with any other fight at 160.

Cotto will fight Floyd or Canelo. GGG is ducked again. What else? This is Boxing

Posted June 8, 2014 5:32 pm 


Pugfan

If Cotto has a rematch with Floyd , I hope it is in MSG , not Vegas.

Posted June 8, 2014 5:27 pm 


Auzbox

Mayweather isn’t what he was in their first fight, and cotto is better. Good fight but he should beat canelo first

Posted June 8, 2014 5:24 pm 


EZ E

PAPO Yes indeed! The way some Cotto-detractors sound, anybody (cab driver, plummer, retired male nurse, midget wrestler, short order cook, Danny DeVito, …) with a pulse could’ve manhandled and raped Sergio last night. LOL! Anyway, he gave many fans of ALL faiths, nationalities, colors and creeds a memorable night. Good for him!

Posted June 8, 2014 5:24 pm 


Anonymous

Floyd’s butt cheeks are quivering right about now as he noticed last night Cotto stole the boxing thunder. All Floyd fanboys always stated, Sergio is too big for Floyd, others, Floyd would beat Sergio. As a fighter and as a man, Cotto beat the man IN the RING…..not outside of it with mere words, as Floyd has always been accustomed to. Floyd’s jock riders are content he would beat Pac without actually proving it, so he gets a pass from them. Cotto, man of few words, proves his mettle and worth where it matters most, IN THE RING!! I guess he one-upped Floyd. While Floyd took a thrashing in his last fight…..Cotto is looking very much spectacular.

Posted June 8, 2014 5:16 pm 


EZ E

TYSON If you remember correctly, he left Arum to fight Floyd the first time right?Like you said, he’s not bound to anybody, negotiating one fight at a time. Thing is, Floyd can’t use the “leave you promoter” excuse this time either, not implying that he actually will/would. Peace!

Posted June 8, 2014 5:11 pm 


Papo

EZ E, that’s an excellent point…not too many people want to give credit where credit is due. My guess is that more than 75% of those who predicted a spectacular win by Martinez are now looking for an excuse of why their prediction didn’t materialize. There are also those who wanted Cotto to lose badly and now can’t stand the fact that, not just he won, but made it look easy.

There are many other fighters who had a chance to challenge Sergio…Canelo, Floyd, Lara, just to name a few…but didn’t have the balls to do so as Martinez was view as a too dangerous middleweight. Cotto was man enough to challenge him against all odds, ignoring critiques who predicted he would be slaughtered by the bigger and natural middleweight.

Congratulations to Cotto…he deserves it.

Posted June 8, 2014 5:04 pm 


Mike Tyson

Floyd can’t fight cotto, he not dealing with arum,if he sayed with GBP he would have got a fight through Oscar. Cotto a fee agent but hr not leaving arum now for a fight with Floyd

Posted June 8, 2014 4:52 pm 


Ray Ray

That Mayweather must b good…..Freddy/Manny/Arum drop Floyds name every chance they get…..Freddy is just playing the get the dollars game up….Mayweather wont cruise 2nd half of the fight in a rematch like he did 1st time around…

Posted June 8, 2014 4:48 pm 


get over it

Floyd is no Martinez he will school Cotto again easy…

Posted June 8, 2014 4:46 pm 


Mike Tyson

There is a rules in boxing you first learn is to keep them up both hand in front go your face boy.
There is a reason for that , as the oponate can’t see a opening and has create one. If its open you can hit there derectly up close, but farther away you can fake a right hand hook and as you get close hook that left and he have no time bringing that left up. unprotected right side opens up the other side. Pluss Sergio can’t fight inside he better outside as he a boxer he fought cotto fight.
Keep them up boys your not or Floyd or roy.

Posted June 8, 2014 4:41 pm 


EZ E

ONE year or so ago people said the Floyd wouldn’t dare fight Martinez. ONE year ago others said that Canelo wouldn’t accept fight Martinez. They said that Quillin didn’t want to fight Martinez either. So a year or so later Cotto challenges Sergio, and is ridiculed, given a “snowballs chance” by many, “no chance” by others, a “little chance” by some, including me. Now today, according to quite a few, Cotto’s talent, preparation, strategy, fight plan, skills.. had NOTHING (?) to do with his victory. No credit whatsoever? hmmm… Oh well…

Posted June 8, 2014 4:34 pm 


ANON

Squared Head…….. very intellectual!

You could care less because your too busy riding Lil’ Floyd’s sack, like a possessed rodeo queen (reverse cowgirl style). Frantically protecting his tarnished reputation with all your wit and might — as if Floyd is your biological brother, you’re on his payroll, and the sole pride of all African-Americans depends on Floyd’s rep… LMFAO.

Posted June 8, 2014 4:31 pm 


Ray Ray

It was an out standing performance by Cotto though…..bit better than 3 fightsago v Trout.

Posted June 8, 2014 4:17 pm 


Ray Ray

Ha ha ha ha yeah ok fffffreddy….Floyd toyed with Cotto & will do again.

Posted June 8, 2014 4:15 pm 


PEEJ

When Cotto faced Margacheato in the rematch he was full of praise for his trainer. When he lost he blamed it on the trainer. Roach is a good fit though for Cotto. Cotto was a great come forward left hook to the body fighter and Roach can help with that. I can see Cotto beating Quillen but not sure else he can beat at 160

Posted June 8, 2014 4:07 pm 


EZ E

TUMBO You should know by now that Freddie is great at playing ‘mind games’. This could very well be another one. Trying to draw Floyd out and ‘get under his skin’, saying that he’s ‘finished’. It wouldn’t be the first time Freddie does this. Think about it. Six months ago NOBODY was saying that Floyd was ‘finished’, all it took was one fight against a difficult and “possessed” Maidana, and now Floyd is washed up? Many gave Canelo excellent chances to beat Floyd, citing his youth, strength, hunger, talent, punching power.. And then they said he was too ‘green” and that Floyd was too /good/great, right? Only ONE fight later, is Canelo STILL too green? Now, a few months later Floyd needs a wheelchair? Freddie is Freddie and he will NEVER waste an opportunity to get under Floyd’s skin nor sling some mud in Floyd’s direction. Paz para TUMBO, peace to all.

Posted June 8, 2014 4:05 pm 


Papo

Te Tumbo, I’ll get you a Mariachi band so they can sing to you that famous song “Y llorar y llorar…llorar y llorar”.

Posted June 8, 2014 4:01 pm 


TARK

I’m not a big admirer of Freddie Roach — but he really clicks well with Cotto.

Cotto was depressed and sullen for his fights with Mayweather and Trout. He wasn’t happy with his preparation. He wasn’t happy with the corner work or anything else. His dad and brother said, “It’s not the trainers Miguel, it’s YOU.” … Cotto said, “Fk off… My trainers suck.”

He changed from coaches he used most his career… to Emmanuel Steward… to Pedro Diaz… to Freddie Roach… He’s finally happy with Roach.

Roach seldom berates his fighters, or shouts at them, or rebukes them, or talk to them like they’re a 10-year-old kid.. I always hated hard-nosed chief seconds.. I’ve heard fighters tell their coach things like, “STFU azzhole … You go fight him then … You’re fired … Get out of my face … Shut up so I can think … Just give me the water bottle and STFU” … If you want to punch your coach more than your opponent you need to change coaches.

Posted June 8, 2014 3:59 pm 


te tumbo

“can’t face the fact that Cotto won an easy fight…” another illiterate Moron who can’t seem to read and understand that an “easy fight” is precisely what I’m giving Cotto credit for winning. otherwise, who dares make the argument that it was a fit, pumped, and prime Martinez that we saw lose last night? . . . Anyone?!?

Posted June 8, 2014 3:54 pm 


PEEJ

I could care less what his team says. GGG has never made 154 he fought higher as an amateur. Yeah when he was younger he was under 154 but as he got older he got bigger. And you said it yourself. He doesn’t have a lot of muscle or fat. So what does he have to lose to make 154. Just cause other fighters do it don’t mean he can. Chris Byrd went from heavy to light heavy. He made the weight easy but looked terrible. Same with Chambers. Also Dawson said he could make 168. After Ward thrashed him nothing but excuses for the win. So until I see him make it and fight someone I will stick with he can’t make 154

Posted June 8, 2014 3:54 pm 


Papo

Poor Te Tumbo, can’t face the fact that Cotto won an easy fight…he’s hurt and I’m sure he cried all night. I wonder how much he’ll cry when Lara does his job on Canelo.

Posted June 8, 2014 3:47 pm 


te tumbo

HIDALGo, considering that You believe that Cotto defeated a prime Martinez, which full-fledged middleweight do You believe he’ll challenge next? anything less only bolsters my contention that Roach’s cherrypick paid-off . . . this time.

Posted June 8, 2014 3:47 pm 


te tumbo

Btw, i posted that analsysis beFORE the bout. it was obvious to anyone who knows boxing or was listening to Roach’s own pre-fight gas. Roach explicitly cited Martinez’s broken-down condition just like he’s now citing Mayweather’s “shot” condition. are you hard-of-reading or something?

Posted June 8, 2014 3:43 pm 


te tumbo

“if Martinez won, but since Cotto won it’s because Martinez was falling apart” PreCISEly. HIDALGo, i don’t expect you to understand such a nuanced and sophisticated analysis. few average fans do but it’s precisely what happened last night . . . unless you care to make the argument that Martinez looked pumped-and-primed last night and that Cotto is ready to campaign as a full-fledged middleweight(?). of course you don’t dare do that, which makes my analsysis air-tight and spot-on.

Posted June 8, 2014 3:40 pm 


te tumbo

“Since when has Floyd Mayweather Jr. been a ‘cherrypick’ for anyone? Are you kidding?” you need to ask Roach that question. after all, HE’s the one describing Mayweather as “shot” with legs that are “gone”. how does that translate into risky or dangerous opponent(?).

Posted June 8, 2014 3:38 pm 


Hello

Floyd Vs. Cotto II (155 contractual weight) for the Jr. Middleweight and Middleweight championship [they both have titles, and Cotto will want to fight Canelo who fights at 155 nowadays anyway, so it's perfect]

Posted June 8, 2014 3:36 pm 


te tumbo

“And what would you have been proclaiming had Martinez won, te tumbo?” predictable. Martinez is the bigger, stronger, and natural middle and Cotto was undersized jr. middle never mind full-fledged middle. however, in my pre-fight posts I explicitly cited imagining rivets and bolts flying off of Martinez’s frame during the last two rounds of his fight v. Chavez Jr. his subsequent bouts revealed additional deterioration of his fighting-fitness. this was apparent for EVERYone to see and process. he needed the rest but it looked like rust v. Cotto, e.g., how many times did Martinez over or undershoot his power-Left? his bread-and-butter punch that he suddenly can’t accurately calculate the range with any more? that many went with their hearts is their business. I call them as I see and feel them beFORE the actual bout.

Posted June 8, 2014 3:35 pm 


Anonymous

Since when has Floyd Mayweather Jr. been a “cherrypick” for anyone? Are you kidding?

Posted June 8, 2014 3:32 pm 


te tumbo

Cotto did look good v. an older, rusty, and broken-down Martinez. Roach is now declaring that he would look just as good v. a “Shot” Mayweather whose legs are “gone”. Pay Attention. the attempted cherrypick is unfolding before your very eyes and Roach isn’t trying to hide his intention of targeting a presumably vulnerable Floyd. he’s announcing his intention for everyone whose listening to hear and process.

Posted June 8, 2014 3:27 pm 


EZ E

TUMBO Carnal, I don’t believe that anyone can blame Cotto (not Freddie) for wanting to avenge his loss to vs Floyd, can we really? When it domes to Floyd, Cotto and Freddie are on different agendas. They BOTH want Floyd but for DIFFERENT reasons. For Freddie it’s about dislike/hate, for Cotto it’s about REVENGE! Now that it’s pretty clear that Floyd and Pac will never meet, Miguel is Freddie’s last and ONLY option to “beat” Floyd. Besides, everybody wants Floyd. For example, if Canelo defeats Lara and/or Cotto do you honestly believe that Canelo would turn down a rematch opportunity vs Floyd?? Of course not!! Would that make Canelo/Oscar a pair of Freddie-like opportunist?? Would Oscar let ANY opportunity to “beat” or “get even” with Floyd go by?? NO!! Is GGG a coward for wanting to fight “old” Floyd?? Anyway, I don’t believe Floyd will want Cotto this September, but then again, who knows? Paz Carnal! Peace to all!

Posted June 8, 2014 3:17 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

Congratulations to Cotto for his victory against Martinez last night, but I cannot see how this means anything in a rematch against Floyd unless Floyd is presently as worn out a fighter as Martinez was last night. Would Floyd fight Cotto in MSG? I doubt it, because if a match is made, it will be Floyd setting the framework – just as Cotto set the framework for last night’s fight against Martinez.

Posted June 8, 2014 3:15 pm 


laj

think Anonymous fancied the ginge minge a bit to much.must have been the plastic lips lol laj

Posted June 8, 2014 3:09 pm 


massey

hope you didnt bet your dole cheque on the ginger ninger Anonymous,hahaha

Posted June 8, 2014 3:05 pm 


badger

he got a point there Anonymous you did blow on georges pecker.you got that one bang wrong again.

Posted June 8, 2014 3:02 pm 


BBKing

and to Chris Byrd.

Posted June 8, 2014 2:50 pm 


laj

3G should never try and go back down to 154, He is 5’11” and he would only lose muscle mass going back down. This does serious damage to some fighters like RJJ and ODH. No need to go down, he has good fights at 160 and above.

Posted June 8, 2014 2:44 pm 


tu ma dre

Hecdog. Pac only beats cotto at catchweight, without it pac gets marquezed….

Posted June 8, 2014 2:43 pm 


laj

The Prince, you don’t even know who GGG is fighting (happens to be Geale), Chavez backed out, let alone what his flaws are. GGG was 345-5 as an ametuer, not too many holes in his skill set. His biggest weakness is he likes to trade punches, and is not as fast as a Floyd. Only slick boxers with great feet, will be able to give GGG any problems.

Posted June 8, 2014 2:40 pm 


Hecdog

Congratulations to Miguel Cotto for exposing an over confident Sergio Martinez that was a good athlete with some boxing skills at one time, but he was never anything special. We all knew both guys were past their primes, but Martinez was physically more broken down and his age and inactivity added to his down fall. Martinez used his movement and hand speed to win most of his fights. Boxers like Ali, Roy Jones Jr and Martinez use their athletic ability to beat the majority of their opponents. They are not technically sound fighters that learn how to fight inside and deal with pressure fighters that take their best punch and keep coming. They take punches and have strong fighting hearts, but they are lost if they can’t use their legs, move, counter and box like they did when they were younger. Cotto deserved this win because he has always been a warrior. He is very respectful and always gives fan pleasing fights. He’s a well rounded fighter that has taken his lumps. Martinez was physically falling apart and has been for his last few fights. He needs to retire. Miguel Cotto is in the drivers seat right now, but he has very difficult challenges that would be tough for him to win. IMO, Canelo is too young, fast and strong. Lara is too good. GGG simply destroys him. Cotto would be fighting the young guns that would present too difficult of challenges for Cotto to win. He’s too small. These guys are not Martinez. He could fight Mayweather, and the fight would be great in MSG. Maidana showed the blue print, and Cotto is much more skilled than Maidana. If Floyd is slowing down, which I think he is, Cotto could beat him. If Floyd is still at the top of his game, he wins an easy decision. A big fight would be Cotto vs Manny Pacquiao. This would be a huge fight for redemption, and the fighters fan bases would create an exciting, explosive environment. These fighters fans are loyal and they love their fighters. Cotto would fight for redemption and Manny for his 9th title. What more drama would you need. Unfortunately for Miguel Cotto, he takes a tough beating and gets stopped in the later rounds. Miguel Cotto is a great fighter, but Manny Pacquiao is the greatest pure fighter of all time and a legend. Trust me on this, Manny beats Cotto badly. I like Miguel Cotto a lot, and I hope whoever he fights, he makes a lot of money and goes off into the sunset with his health. This is a class person that deserves the best.

Posted June 8, 2014 2:38 pm 


Anonymous

senior. are you billy no balls older brother.

Posted June 8, 2014 2:31 pm 


senior

I like Grove’s pinkish pubic hair on me face

Posted June 8, 2014 2:28 pm 


senior

@Anonymous.after the rubbish you talked during the build up to the Froch Groves bout,your views mean jak shat dude,

Posted June 8, 2014 2:23 pm 


The Prince

GGG has many flaws that can get exploited by good fighters. Right now, GGG is fighting Chavez Jr., which is a small step up for him. Let’s see if he can overcome that first, before trying to claim he’s the best a 160 and above.

Posted June 8, 2014 2:19 pm 


PEEJ

Until GGG can show me he can make 154 I won’t think he can make that weight. Even as an amateur he fought higher than 154. Has never been close to 154 in his pro career. So in my book he can’t make 154

Posted June 8, 2014 2:15 pm 


massey

Man for ggg to be feared who has he beaten. Anyone could look good on C level fighters. Why he ducked Laura. Why ducked Ward. Never faught anyone with means. Only one who ducked him was Sergio and now we know why. Everyone say he beat this person in sparing but know one mentioned how Canelo made him look Avarge in sparing.

Posted June 8, 2014 2:01 pm 


Big Ham

It is what it is. Cotto is in good form, there are only two fights that make sense for him Mayweather, or Canelo. FLoyd is actually the better matchup for him. If he could win that, that would be great for his legacy. He is not a real MW. Or even a real junior MW. Some of you have pointed out that he has not fought the best 154lb competition. He lost to Trout, and has not fought Canelo, Kirkland, Lara, or even a previously less shopworn Angulo. I do not expect or even want to see Cotto in with MW’s like GGG. I am not a cotto hater but i like to keep things in perspective. He was never the #1 guy at 140,147, or 154. But right now he is ranked champion by ring magazine. That tells you how flaky ring/linear titles can be. Sergio is shot, they thought he might not be what he once was when they took the fight. It turned out he was worse than they thought.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:58 pm 


Anonymous

after last night i”ve changed my mind.ggg is now the greatest middleweight ever.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:46 pm 


BURGER IN A BAP

f~k mephisto,and take your Anonymous shadow with you

Posted June 8, 2014 1:41 pm 


anonymous

Lot of explanations, excuses and people defending Martinez because they thought its so obvious their boy Martinez is going to win. Well, i knew all the long he’s overhyped and bet for Cotto. Some of us have eye for boxing, some of us have little bit more, let’s say so. Now keep on crying, i can hear it all the way here,…lolol..

Posted June 8, 2014 1:40 pm 


Patrick

39 years old, 14-month layoff, and lots of chronic injuries. The only thing Martinez was left with last night was tons of heart/determination, and that won’t get you the win against a world-class fighter.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:40 pm 


BOXING ART

Martinez did not have 100% percent of the ability to move around the ring which is his bread and butter as he sets up baits. Had he, the fight would have been competitive and super close. It brought back shades of the Foreman fight where his leg gave out. Cotto is in superb shape and showed lots of phenomenal ring IQ never seen before in his other fights. Martinez, on the other hand, was a corpse of himself. He even looked to be in pain much before the bell sounded for the 1st round. Love both Cotto and Martinez — they both have given so much to boxing and their fights have never ever lacked excitement.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:34 pm 


E Theory

Also one point to be taken into consideration is the fact that Cotto didn’t have to go through weight draining. Maybe it conserved his power better for this fight? Regardless Cotto showed some boxing skills last night.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:30 pm 


PEEJ

I said it before and I’ll say it again. Nobody is beating GGG at 160. I think Cotto should fight Canelo and call it a day. If he wins in spectacular fashion like last night the go ahead and make your last fight against GGG or retire. He said he only had 3 fights left when he went to Roach

Posted June 8, 2014 1:28 pm 


te tumbo

REM, Pacquiao’s* specialty is initiating the fight because he is a very good fighter. he’s simply a piss-poor boxer who can be outsmarted by superior boxers and outpunched by expert punchers. still no consistent jab; a porous defense; a spontaneous and unreliable right-hand; reckless finishing-skills; and simply not the sharpest tool in the shed. he does one thing well and that’s initiate and dominate exchanges with his quick fists v. good fighters. however, v. great fighters, Pacquiao* is only good.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:26 pm 


Ron the Racist

WHAT? Boxtrodumbass picked Martinez to win????????? He is a Crow eater then. An Eater of Crows !!!!!!!!!!

Posted June 8, 2014 1:24 pm 


PEEJ

I did say I thought Cotto would lose do to his size. Cotto was a HOF fighter before this fight. But I also stated if they where the same size Cotto would win cause he is a better all around fighter. Cotto proved me wrong on the size thing but not on the all around fighter thing

Posted June 8, 2014 1:23 pm 


COTTO CREW

Boxtradamus!
Boxtradamus!
Boxtradamus! oh ya he must be still celebrating Martinez victory?

Posted June 8, 2014 1:21 pm 


anonymous

Cotto just exposed Martinez, the overhyped bum with sloppy style whose best victory is over Williamson, deal with it Sergio-fanboys.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:19 pm 


COTTO CREW

Boxtradamus
Other than Mosley, Cotto has never defeated an ELITE level Fighter in his LIFE. Martinez is one of the Top 10 most SKILLED Fighters on the planet and Cotto is not. EASY Fight to predict. Martinez will WIN by MERCIFUL referee stoppage.
Posted June 7, 2014 6:55 pm
Boxtradamus
Nope. YOU will be SHOCKED when I’m here celebrating after the Fight to Mattinez’s WIN and YOU will wish YOU were ME like you DO now. But youre not. I do crown you as MY most loyal disciple but I will REMAIN as the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!! I will TOAST to it tonight!!!!
Posted June 7, 2014 6:58 pm

Posted June 8, 2014 1:18 pm 


massey

A lot of people are over looking Laura in this Canelo’s bout. Don’t think because of what Canelo did to Angular would be the same. AFTER Angular came off that war with Laura he wasn’t the same fighter it took to much out of him. Austin Trout said it best. Laura going to box the crap out of Canelo. The guy should know bhe was in there with both fighter’s.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:17 pm 


te tumbo

in fact, Cotto’s 154lb ring-resume is particularly paltry and underwhelming. he lost to Trout and Mayweather and none of his wins were v. prime or prominent opponents. no Kirkland, Canelo, Lara, or even Angulo on his list. there is only one word to describe how Cotto avoided his most-prominent peers during three+ years at 154lbs and it isn’t “greatness”.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:17 pm 


Anonymous

My bad. I meant Martinez has looked increasingly worse

Posted June 8, 2014 1:15 pm 


Anonymous

anonymous: Absolute nonsense. Cotto’s looked increasing bad with each passing fight of late and he’s just come of a 12 month lay-off and major surgery. His knees are totally done in and his punch resistance has vanished. He looked like a total shell of himself.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:14 pm 


REM

Te Tumbo couldn’t outbox a heavybag lmfao good one. You know we’ll probably never find out but i wish Pac would’ve tried. Pac has always taken on the responsibility to initiate the fight for the fans id like to see Pac make Marquez initiate the fight for once.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:12 pm 


COTTO CREW

Amazing not long ago this site was full of Martinez favorite posting, my favorite one was from Martinez himself ” yo me pongo los guantes y le doy una paliza” I put my boxing gloves on and I give Cotto a beating! well Martinez did wear boxing gloves, and the beatings came,,,,,from Cotto! some folks even stated Cottos head was going to roll to the front seats, donde estan los Welfare Argentinos?

Posted June 8, 2014 1:12 pm 


Demonyo

Cotto showed how not to cherrypick a fight. He took on someone he was not even given a chance of beating. Unlike Fraud Gayweather, Cotto fought without the assurance of a win. Cotto fights, Fraud picks. Only Floydiots admire the undefeated record of a fake great fighter

Posted June 8, 2014 1:11 pm 


te tumbo

HIDALGo, you’re feeling singed by the undiluted facts not my emotions and Cotto rejected Canelo’s challenges twice not just the latest $10 million challenge. he chose Trout and Rodriguez at 154lbs instead. it is obvious that Cotto will not fight anyone in his vicinity. at least not while Roach is in charge of the mismatchmaking.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:11 pm 


Anonymous

If that was a Roy Jones, a Floyd Mayweather or a Bernard Hopkins in there looking that bad from the peeling of the first bell no one but the fiercest of haters would be saying they weren’t a shell of what they once were.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:09 pm 


anonymous

Anonymous@He looked terrible because Cotto took his soul right in the first seconds of the fight.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:08 pm 


massey

Roach said Floyd legs was gone in the Robert G fight and in the Canelo’s. Floyd will handle Cotto with easy. Don’t like him outside of the ring. Inside of the ring he’s king and long live the king. Money Mayweather.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:07 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

@Te Tumbo…I agree with you as well…..Canelo was dangerous and still is…..That fight will not happen….Want to prove something to me…I would like to see him fight GGG but we know damn well that’s not going to happen…What he did last night was no more than what RJJ did when he went up to the heavyweight division in won a piece of the crown from the WEAKEST LINK…..History was made; but let’s not get carried away here…..

Posted June 8, 2014 1:07 pm 


Anonymous

It has nothing to do with Cotto hooking up with a new trainer and everything to do with the severe slippage of Sergio Martinez.

Cotto didn’t do anything spectacular. He didn’t need to with the sorry excuse for a fallen prizefighter he had in front of him last night. Martinez looked like an old, shot cripple. He had nothing left at all except a big heart and his courage.

How can so many be so blind? Martinez looked terrible from the outset. He’s looked increasingly bad with each passing outing and been getting dropped and hurt by pity pat punchers.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:06 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

@SREDMOND…You are exactly correct….First off; let’s keep this fight in its proper perspective…Yes in was a good win for Cotto…However; he beat a man who is OLD and who was out of the ring for over a year; and who was coming off of several injuries…And I don’t give a damn about all you knee experts and others; but he was NOT 100% last night….He was in there with a knee braces on….If the knee was fine and 100% what was the need for the brace??? That’s like me sporting a band aid; but I have no cut or scar…Who does that????

Posted June 8, 2014 1:04 pm 


REM

Te Tumbo Cottos gonna fight Canelo for sure its just that Martinez was the better option right now. Cotto could’ve lost to Martinez and still had a mega fight with Canelo. Cotto had to pounce on this opportunity against Martinez.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:04 pm 


te tumbo

“Pac could easily outbox Marquez if he chose to”. REM, Pacquiao* tried v. an “older”, “slower”, and “smaller” Marquez in III and was soundly and convincingly outBoxed. face it: Pacquiao* couldn’t outbox a heavy-bag. never mind a moving, thinking, and masterful boxer-puncher like Marquez who he also failed to outPunch in IV. that rivalry is OVER and permanently in Boxing’s rearview. Marquez is Greater.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:03 pm 


The Prince

Now this is hilarious. I’m noticing the same names that claimed Floyd cherrypicked and beat a past prime Cotto years ago, now saying Cotto would beat Floyd in a rematch. Some even admitting they would like to see Cotto do it to a shot Mayweather like Cotto did to a shot Martinez. This just proves that Floyd’s competition was NEVER the reason for the pointless hate against him. Fact it, Cotto made Floyd look like a boxing master Yesterday.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:01 pm 


massey

Ok why did he ducked Laura. When Laura punish Canelo. Laura and Ggg. For your info ward has faught under his management court or not. Words out of Ward mouth on how they are ducking him. Just don’t see how Ggg is so feared. Ok Sergio didn’t want any part of him. I can see why but Chev jr wanted the fight so did Laura. On his sparing session well they said Canelo was schooling him in sparing. A lot of C and B class fighters don’t want to get in the ring but A class is waiting on him.

Posted June 8, 2014 1:00 pm 


REM

Hidalgo yeah I cant deny thats a reasonable conclusion to come to I just think that Roach has a better technical fighter to work with in Cotto. Had Floyd performed better against Chino I wouldn’t be so confident in Cotto winning a rematch against Floyd. Im banking on Floyd wearing down right now as much as im banking on Cottos improved conditioning.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:57 pm 


te tumbo

“You know as well as I do that Miguel Cotto will face anyone within the weight divisions that he fights in” HIDALGo, No I Don’t. especially when he rejected Canelo’s guaranteed $10 million challenge to fight Martinez for less and the first name that Roach cites as a potential post-Martinez opponent is a welterweight who already convincingly defeated Cotto once. all the evidence indicates that Cotto will NOT fight anyone at middleweight. at some point, it’s no longer necessary to speculate. Cotto’s actions and Roach’s words have already spelled-out their intentions for anyone paying attention . . . Pay Attention.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:57 pm 


The Prince

The fact that people are even talking about a Cotto rematch proves that Floyd won’t be hurting because of the Golden Boy/Top Rank deal. Floyd has two things fighters want: The money he generates per fight, and his 0.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:54 pm 


SREDMOND

You guys are some of the same people saying Cotto was an “old damaged fighter” for years which I never agreed with.. FACT is that Floyd already showed he was a BETTER fighter when they met head to head.. Getting a NEW trainer at 33 after all of Cottos experience does not make me believe he is a different boxer…He brought his A game last night and was a joy to watch, that said Floyd Mayweather snapped his prior win streak and he would be betting favorite to do it again for the SAME reasons… Floyd does not need Manny Steward, Freddy Roach, Pedro or 7 other trainers to give him newfound confidence or acumen.. His 46-0 record is more than enough

Posted June 8, 2014 12:53 pm 


massey

Everyone saying Ggg is the fighter to be feared but Ward plus Laura then called him out. Does this sound like a fighter who’s feared. On both fighters his camp came up with excuses. Yet egar for chev jr but wouldn’t fight fighters who have good defense plus power and who can box.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:52 pm 


laj

Again Ward is still in court, he can’t take fights unless it is under his old manager and he doesn’t want to do so. How many times has Ward fought in the last two years, how many times has GGG? It is almost like trying to fight David Haye at HVWT, hurry up and wait for something that may never happen. By the way I would pick Ward in that fight, wrong style for GGG at this time, but it would be close and it is possible GGG catches up with Ward in the later rounds. GGG should fight a couple other bigger fighters first before Ward. You don’t make the jump if you are smart and well managed.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:51 pm 


laj

I don’t want to see Cotto fight 3G yet. Fight Quillan, maybe Soliman, maybe even Canelo if he gets past Lara, get used to the bigger fighters before getting in with GGG. GGG is technically as good as Cotto, and just has too much power at this time. Cotto wears down after about 9 rnds against pressure power punchers. Without time at the weight against the bigger men, he would get beaten up in the later rounds by GGG. It would be good and competitive for the first part of the fight. I think he beats Kid Chocolate, and Canelo would be very fun and competitive. I wouldn’t give MW the opportunity at this time, no need with so many other good fights out there.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:46 pm 


massey

Laj ward is fighting in court trying to run out his promoters contract but he didn’t say he wouldn’t fight. His recent interview he stated why ggg and others are ducking him. I’m just saying he were willing to fight chev jr on HBO paper view. The fight didn’t fall through ok here is Ward not only would bthe fight sell but it would have been for the 168 tittles. The championship. You wanted Chev jr at 168 why notbward. Same network same weight class. Words out ggg trainers mouth. Ggg is ready for anyone at 160 to 168 ecept Ward….WOW.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:46 pm 


The Prince

Cotto does not beat Mayweather in a rematch, sorry Roach. But thank you for further validating how great Floyd’s win over Cotto was.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:44 pm 


REM

Floyds a little faster than Cotto but there isnt that much of a speed difference between the 2.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:43 pm 


te tumbo

“WBA middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin would be out of the question, because he’s not old, he doesn’t have two bad knees, he’s not coming off of a long layoff, and he’s simply the best in the division” pretty much sums-up Cotto’s middleweight integrity. he will not be considering the best middleweights for his next challenge.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:41 pm 


REM

The problem is of Cotto doesn’t put the mw tittle on the line he doesn’t have any bargaining power. Cotto said his career would’ve been different if he would’ve been training like he is now and I believe it. Floyd will be fighting a better Cotto and Floyd cant really handle fighting twice a year proven by his last fight hes ripe for the picking right now. I hope this fight happens.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:40 pm 


te tumbo

ultimately, Cotto’s defeat of Martinez is a paper-accomplishment that doesn’t indicate how he would do v. the best and prime at middleweight. even now Roach is backtracking and trying to lure a “shot” Mayweather whose “legs have gone” to a rematch at 160lbs(?!). obviously, if Cotto had proven that he was such a viable middleweight, he wouldn’t be considering welterweights for his next challenge.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:34 pm 


get over it

Cotto is improved but Floyd whops him again easy. The first fight was competitive but MW pulls away in the latter rounds Cotto is too slow. Eervytime a fighter has a impressive wins Floyd name comes into the mix but. Floyd is not Martinez and Cotto is 160, There is GGG, Canelo plenty is killers are 154 and 160. Floyd has no interest in Cottos belt. He already beat him once…

Posted June 8, 2014 12:33 pm 


REM

I dont think Roach not helping Pac clearly beat Marquez has anything to do with a Floyd Cotto rematch. Pac makes his money attacking and refused to box Marquez playing into Marquez hands. Pac could easily outbox Marquez if he chose to. Doubt a 5th fights gonna happen but if it does Pac will just do what Floyd and Bradley did to him.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:31 pm 


laj

Massey, in case you didn’t know, Ward isn’t fighting anybody, but the court system. Why should GGG wait for a year or more for Ward maybe to fight him? Besides this is supposed to be about Cotto. If you want to talk Cotto vs. MW of Cotto vs anybody it makes more sense. PErsonally I don’t want to see Cotto vs. MW. Neither fighter gets credit if they win or lose that fight. People would say MW was too small or too old, or people would discount what Cotto did against Martinez, and say he caught him at a bad time. Get some other fights under Cotto’s belt first.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:27 pm 


SREDMOND

Yeah Hidalgo, people get too excited when a gets a new trainer and books a big win as if he has been reborn… Cotto was a 3 weight Champ before Freddy and he could always fight.. Last night was his night BIG TIME but we saw the same man against Floyd 2 years ago and he lost 8-4… I am down for a legacy rematch but not thinking the results would differ much due to some technical improvents in the Great Cotto.:.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:26 pm 


mansworld

Miadana is a dirty fight who should have been disqualified he hit behind the head in the nutts head butted and nothing worked he still lost it was even close the judges need to be fired. Anyone else the fght would have been stopped. Floyd needs to not rely on his defense so much and use his offense to whop these guys or he might get robbed one day…

Posted June 8, 2014 12:26 pm 


te tumbo

“Well Floyd want Cotto’s 160Lb belt too?” NO. Floyd isn’t even a 154lbr never mind a full-fledged middleweight. I have Zero interest in watching Mayweather fight above 147lbs ever again. unless Cotto agrees to a catchweight of 154lbs for his 160lb titles, there is not even the remotest possibility that Mayweather concede the weight-advantage to Cotto. particularly not while he’s dominating the deepest division in boxing with plenty of paydays for the taking. he’s already defeated Cotto once at Cotto’s preferred weight. there is no compelling incentive for him to accommodate Cotto once again at an even higher weight.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:23 pm 


te tumbo

Q-vo EZ E. with all due respect, I (and Roach) didn’t wait for the outcome of Cotto v. Martinez to speculate that a rehabbed Martinez may still be in fundamentally vulnerable and broken-down condition. Roach is now citing the same rationale for demanding a rematch v. Floyd (e.g., “shot fighter” . . . “Mayweather’s legs have gone”). Roach never cites a fighter’s prime condition or threat-level to justify a challenge. it’s always the opposite. this time, Cotto is benefited from Roach’s cynical mismatchmaking but we also can’t look forward to Cotto challenging Canelo or Golovkin any time soon. at least not until they betray a fatal-flaw or fundamental breakdown in their physical condition . . . Paz y Respeto to EZ E.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:19 pm 


EZ E

TUMBO! Orale, Q-vo carnal. Firstly, Cotto did surprise the heck out of me. And… as I had mentioned to you days earlier, I didn’t expect many to give him his due props if he won. Anyway, as for Cotto vs Canelo or Cotto vs anybody, he solidified his position on all fronts. He made the CORRECT decision, he gambled, laid it ALL on the line, against the odds, and WON! Minutes ago I finally got a hold of Miguel’s right hand man, Bryan Perez, and he kind’a let me know that Cotto will be leaning towards a rematch with Floyd, now even more so. He said, “Miguel knew that he needed a BIG impressive win and got it. Miguel is in a great position.” That was about it. We’ll have to wait and see. Well Floyd want Cotto’s 160Lb belt too? What do you think? As far as I know Cotto is still a free agent, dealing one fight at a time. Orale pues carnal, Paz y respeto!

Posted June 8, 2014 12:17 pm 


enough already

Cotto is too big and slow for Floyd he gets beat again easy…

Posted June 8, 2014 12:17 pm 


REM

Cody no shame in Floyd not wanting to go after the mw tittle I wouldn’t call that ducking. If anything Floyd would be the one chasing the mw tittle.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:16 pm 


massey

I want to see Floyd against Amir in England. Cotto aginst Canelo or Laura in Ny. Ggg vs Ward in Brooklyn. Chev jr vs Frouch at wembolem. Pac vs Danny in vegas. Keith thurman vs maidana in vegas. The rest of 2014 fights.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:16 pm 


The oracle of Delphi

Cotto has a chance to beat Floyd if the fight takes place at the Madison Square Garden instead of Floyd’s filthy and corrupt backyard Las Vegas…

Posted June 8, 2014 12:15 pm 


Gus

True that Angula was not the same fighter after Jara. However, Lara also may not be the same fighter after Angula because Angula had Lara close to a knockout in a couple of the rounds.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:15 pm 


Havoc

Let’s forget Floyd! His world in boxing just got smaller since announcing he don’t want any thing to do with GBP. I for one very happy about this. Less Diva Floyd the better the boxing community is. He just turn boxing into a circus act!

Posted June 8, 2014 12:13 pm 


Demonyo

Mayweather got punished and exposed by a bum in Maidana. Mayweather will rupture his hemorrhoid after Cotto is done with Floyd. Only Floydiots like te tumbo believe the no-loss record is genuine. It is a product of smart cherrypicking.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:07 pm 


cody

Oh God now if Floyd doesnt fight Cotto again, you will all say he’s ducking him. Floyd haters are predictable.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:07 pm 


Havoc

Cotto is with Roach now. If Floyd decide to fight Cotto I’m pretty
Sure Floyd will not have his way with Cotto in regards of demands and rules and conditions in the ring. Mayboring is a real diva! No way this fight will happen. Floyd will
Just try to bully Cotto in the negotiation table but this time Cotto will not get bully! So let’s not hope Floyd wants Cotto because he will be dealing with Roach and maybe risking to see his bogeyman manny in ring side.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:06 pm 


badger

what wt is quillen?

Posted June 8, 2014 12:05 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

The NAME Boxtradamus died last night. It was overrun by trolls who have no life other than to sabotage a frightening accurate fight predictor on a website. It’s kind a like when Lew Alcindor changed his name to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar or better yet CLAY to ALI. Same man but now under a new name which will continue on with MY Hall of Fame prediction career. Soon enough I will have made enough REAL money for predicting these fights and you will appreciate how GREAT I truly was after I’m gone!!!

So keeps taking my NAMES because this website is just for FUN. In reality I’m making coin and aint NOTHING you can haters can do about it.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:03 pm 


REM

I really want this fight lol.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:02 pm 


REM

And Floyd is that shot fighter. Like Iron Mike said its easy to stay undefeated fighting once every 18 months. This well conditioned Cotto will send Floyd into retirement.

Posted June 8, 2014 12:00 pm 


Anonymous

Cotto would NOT be coming down to face Mayweather again, he was 155 for this fight get real… Anything can happen in boxing but fact remains Floyd beat Cotto at 154 already and would be the favorite to do it again..

Posted June 8, 2014 11:57 am 


skinnysteve

roach is looking for another shot fighter to stick cotto in with there will be no talk of unification his next fight wont even be at middleweight

Posted June 8, 2014 11:55 am 


REM

Lmao I see Cotto walking through Floyd right now after his performance against Chino. As the mw champ dont give Floyd a catchweight and make him come to N.Y where xylocaine is illegal. Then we’ll see what Floyds really made of.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:50 am 


Boxer

Lets see if Canelo can make it past lara and oh man what a fight it would be Canelo vs cotto talk about a throw back fight!

Posted June 8, 2014 11:49 am 


albeziel

EZ E that was spot on.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:49 am 


Popkins

We’ve already seen Floyd/Cotto …won’t be any different this time. Cotto v Alvarez or GGG wud b awesome tho!

Posted June 8, 2014 11:48 am 


massey

Not saying Mayweather wouldn’t have his hand full but he will beat cotto.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:46 am 


enough already

It depends on which Cotto shows it. Floyd is too fast and too skilled for Cotto, Migel takes too much punishment and his defensive skill is not enough for MW. Floyd will pick him apart in the latter rounds just like before MW is unbeatable he rums 12 miles a day thats why the first few rounds of his fights are close and he always pulls away in the later rounds like he always does these guys rum out of gas…

Posted June 8, 2014 11:45 am 


Killa

So, now Roach goes after past prime fighters that is total B.S!! Or Cotto should go down to 154!! Dude, Cotto looked good beating Martinez. Mayweather is not even up to fighting Maidana again because he is a dirty fighter. B.S he just did not let Floyd fight his fight. Maidana made him fight his fight.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:44 am 


REM

Canelos actually Cottos best matchup right now. Its a winnable fight for Cotto and it will add on to Cottos legacy as a bonafide indisputable atg. Outside of Lara and 3G anyone who steps in with Cotto is gonna have their hand full.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:44 am 


massey

Laura going to out box Canelo. Don’t think Lauar will stand there for a 5 pice combo like Angular did. Angular wasn’t the same fighter after Laura. That was a war. Just like Floyd out bow him Laura will do the same but with a whole lot of power.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:40 am 


REM

Man as much as id like to see Ward v Froch in the UK or lets say Kessler in Denmark hed get robbed so bad theyd even take his underwears and socks lol. Just cant blame Ward for not fighting over there.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:32 am 


EZ E

PEEJ, with all due respects but Sergio actually DID spar during training, not as much as usually does, but yes he did. that being said, I commented days ago that if Martinez won, most would say that Cotto was out of his league, over hyped, never that good, exposed, too small or was finished, damaged, would surely get brutalized… You might’ve said one of these yourself. And.. I also said that if Cotto won, which he brutally did in a manner no one expected, most detractors will say that Martinez was too old, still injured, torn down, still recovering, the inactivity, was over hyped, never that good, looked bad vs Murray… You might be one of these as well, maybe not. Anyway, I said that Cotto wasn’t gonna get full props from many posters no matter what. Seems like I was kind’a right, right? Peace!

Posted June 8, 2014 11:31 am 


massey

Ggg is a good fighter but he haven’t faught anyone serious. Ok he couldn’t fight chev jr but ward is on HBO same network and you go after dgale. Ok who’s running from money and a championship. Ok willing to fight Chev jr on HBO paper view at 168 for nothing but the fight didn’t happen but you have the champ Ward there at your disposal with the 168 tittle and for money and you say Degale. Wow…….

Posted June 8, 2014 11:29 am 


te tumbo

i doubt Roach will seriously consider Canelo for an opponent. particularly if Canelo defeats Lara, which is almost certain. never mind that it remains the biggest payday out there for Cotto. prime and peaking are not characteristics that Roach looks for in potential opponents.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:27 am 


REM

Tomato can lmao man all I ever hear is 3G whooped this guy or that guy in sparring. I honestly can see it too 3G appears to be much more technical that Kovolev. I understand that Lara was to high risk low reward for 3G but I wish he wouldve taken that fight so we can see how good he really is.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:25 am 


te tumbo

one thing about Roach is that he’s always candid about targeting Name fighters on the decline or in some degree of broken-down condition. he will also candidly avoid fighters who he is convinced are still in their prime, e.g., when he initially avoided Mosley v. Pacquiao* while he still thought that Shane was “too good a fighter” but once these Name fighters betray any fundamental decline in their condition Roach is on their threshold telling them so and challenging them to prove differently, e.g., Roach thinks Floyd is . . . a shot fighter. Roach says Mayweather’s legs have gone . . .” it’s the same brilliant (albeit cynical)MISmatchmaking strategy that has sustained Pacquiao’s* relevance in the sport even as he struggles to find an opponent in boxing’s deepest division(?!).

Posted June 8, 2014 11:20 am 


Tomato Can

GGG isn’t ducking Ward and Ward isn’t ducking Kovalev. But GGG is interested in fighting at 168 against Chavez Jr. I heard that GGG was thrashing Kovalev in sparring. So maybe Kovalev is getting over hyped a bit right now anyway.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:16 am 


massey

Ward is the champion he have the belts. Ok you saying money fights but what happen to trying to win the championship. Did frouch, ggg, or chev jr mention anything about being 168 champion. Did frouch say he would like to unifies the belts nope. All these guys are ducking ward. By the way boring if you have the ability to not get hit like a rockem, sockem robot that’s a benefit to you. Its called great defense ask serigo. He wish he had it.
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Posted June 8, 2014 11:15 am 


REM

Peej when I say any weight Cotto wants I mean up to the 160 limit. Can’t call it cherrypicking if hes going for the mw tittle. You know its nobodies fault but Cottos own that he just wasnt training like a pro getting by on his talent before but with Roach and an expert strength and conditioning coach this is a brand new Cotto. He put on some real muscle and right now im not sure if Floyd or Pac can beat him for r he mw tittle. Both have aged while Cottos in the best shape hes ever been in.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:15 am 


Dan

@massey

Nobody is ducking Ward. He very rarely fights; when he does most fans find him boring; he has no charisma, no fans, so doesn’t sell tickets; and he refuses to travel.

Unless Ward makes himself saleable somehow, he won’t get a look in on the really big money fights. Boxing at this level is not only about sport and competition; it’s also about big business and big entertainment. Ward needs to learn this.

Plus, if GGG is “ducking” Ward then Ward is ducking Kovalev and Stevenson. Ward has cleaned out Super Middleweight, so it makes sense for him to move back up to Light Heavyweight (at which he fought and won lots of medals as an amateur). Golovkin, on the other hand, has yet to prove himself the best at Middleweight, and has never fought at 168.

If Ward wants to get his career back on track, he could start by agreeing to fight Kessler in Denmark. Given that Ward didn’t even travel outside his country for the Super Six, that’s what a gentleman and true sportsman would do.

As for GGG, he still has plenty of business to take care of at 160 — and let’s hope that Soliman or Quillin or Soliman or Cotto or Murray have big enough balls to step up to the plate before too long.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:05 am 


massey

Cotto vs canelo\laura thats the fight of the year. Laura beat cotto. Canelo and cotto will be one hell of a fight.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:59 am 


Anonymous

Just goes to show you how clueless all those blithering idiots are who said Sergio would’ve beaten Golovkin. That fight would’ve ended in a conclusive manner before the 5th and Sergio wouldn’t have been the one standing with his hand raised at the end.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:53 am 


DF

GGG HAS NOT THE CREDENTIALS TO FIGHT COTTO HE HAS NOT SHOWN REAL BATTLES HE DOESN’T HAVE THE MILAGE THAT COTTO HAS. HOW DO YOU EVEN COMPARE HAVE HIM. PLUS GGG DOESN’T HAVE THE FAN BASE TO START. WHY WOULD COTTO FACE GGG WHEN HE CAN FACE TOP TIER FIGHTERS. WHEN ALVAREZ KO’S LARA THIS WOULD BE A WAY BETTER FIGHT FOR BOTH MEN. QUILLIN IS A BETTER FIGHT FOR COTTO OVER GGG.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:53 am 


massey

Tell ggg to fight ward. Please the guy is dam near begging him. Ward is the camp at 168. Ggg said he will beat anyone from 160 to 168. Floyd will out box the crap out of cotto. Martinez no deffence. Couldn’t sit down on his punches and couldn’t move at angles.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:48 am 


RapidFire

Cotto should definitely go after the Lara/Alvarez winner. Both bouts would be good matches for each of them. Stylistically they all make for exciting action

Posted June 8, 2014 10:46 am 


badger

hope he gives GGG a shot.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:43 am 


badger

cotto is the lineal 160 champ. congrats to him.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:43 am 


The Greatest

Looks like mayweather just found his next big fight.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:41 am 


Tomato Can

Now Cotto better go back down to 154 where he belongs unless he wants to serve up the belt to Mayweather, which I find disturbing, since neither one of them belong at MW. Better than that, I would like to see Cotto against the Alverez/Lara winner. Either one of those two would provide a better fight for Cotto than Martinez did.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:39 am 


D-M@c

What Freddie Roach fails to do is realize reality almost every time he speaks. He fails to mention that the fighter Cotto just beat is a shot fighter. I love how Cotto is such a “dangerous” fighter now that he beat a shot Martinez, but if Floyd fought Cotto again, he’d beat him again because Floyd is simply the better fighter and always has been. Then ppl will be saying Floyd CHERRY-PICKED Cotto and he’s ducking MMMaidana & Khan & Pacquaio & Ali & Tyson & Klitcho & Sugar Ray Leonard & etc etc etc blah blah blah……right haters????? Isn’t that how it goes after every significant victory in boxing????? Floyd this, Floyd that, Floyd Floyd Floyd Floyd Floyd #hashtag hate Floyd

WHAT A JOKE!

Posted June 8, 2014 10:36 am 


Tomato Can

Sometimes you have to take the underdog, and Cotto provided the perfect opportunity for that last night. That was a bitter sweet fight to watch. It was sad to see Martinez moving around on rubbery knees, but it was great to see the smaller Cotto chop Martinez down.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:35 am 


Livershot

C’mon Man!? Cotto beats a guy who could barly walk and he’s ready to beat the P4P King? Bigger question is why go back down in weight? you have some big time fights in the middle weight division. GGG, Canelo, Quinlin, Lara, Chavez Jr, Froch? He could get all those fights in NY or even in Puerto Rico if he wants. Not sure beating a 39 year old with two bum knees qualifies for a rematch with Mayweather.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:35 am 


massey

I’m tired of hearing about ggg. Man the guy want fight ward to save his life.ward said he’s tired of listening to these fighters say they will fight anyone at 160 to 168 but when he’s mention privately they say were not looking at you. Man this dude is the champ. Ggg keep calling out all these small fighters but ward had called him out. Chev jr is the only fighters saying he will get in the ring. Frouch scared and ggg is ducking.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:33 am 


Kato3388

And yes WEAREROFALLTHEBELTS- some predicted wrong… But those same people spit venom just because you dare have a different opinion so I am glad to see someone call em out of that $#!t. Some are even back tracking…..

“Your choices are half chance, so are everybody else’s.”

Cotto did a helluva job last night and I am happy for him. It’s gonna be one helluva Puerto Rican Day Parade today. I wanted Cotto to win, and this is where picking with my heart feels so much sweeter.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:33 am 


matthews

Cotton just left the MW division in shambles. Sergio just should of fought GGG instead and passed the torch. Now cotto has control of lineage and is probably headed back down to jmw.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:33 am 


Kato3388

@Mephisto …. You da man. Thanks for the quotes….

Posted June 8, 2014 10:25 am 


?

Cotto beats one sub par fighter and then beats the middle weight champ who is 39 coming off two surgeries and he is now completely revived by Freddie roach lol.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:24 am 


Tomato Can

mephisto, you found one of my earlier posts. That was my original thoughts leading into the fight. However after looking a several factors I favored Cotto, even though Martinez deserved to be the favorite. What a great job by Cotto though. I enjoyed watching him get a little redemption in the ring.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:21 am 


?

Cotto loses to Canelo and GGG in my opinion.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:20 am 


?

Cotto lost to Floyd 8 rounds to 4 on two judges card and 9 to 3 on the other. It was a competitive fight, but not close on the score card. Cotto supposedly has been revived by switching trainers to Freddie roach, who also trains Pacquio so people will want to see it again. A lot of fans wanted Floyd to move up 13 pounds to fight Martinez. I can see Floyd taking the rematch with Cotto just prove a point by beating him after he beat Martinez and say “this is why I didn’t have to fight Martinez” people are going to praise Cotto for doing what they wanted Floyd to do,which is move up in weight to fight Martinez, and discredit Floyd for not doing it. The guy never really gets his credit. By the way Floyd has never came in the ring bigger than 151 do he’s no where near a middle weight. He was 149 when he took Canelo title. The rematch happens at 154.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:20 am 


PEEJ

This is what happens when you don’t spar when training for a fight. You don’t get used to punches and you don’t know how certain parts of your body will hold up when pushed. If Martinez didn’t spar this training camp it would of been a year or so since the last time he was hit.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:13 am 


PEEJ

I like the way anytime a fighter has a good showing people automatically say he would beat Floyd and Floyd would either not fight them or he won’t rematch them. Floyd has really only had 3 close fights and that was against Castillo and Maidana.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:08 am 


EZ E

@mephisto With all due respects, but I think you might’ve gotten my comment mixed up. I was answering TALK TO MY PROMOTERS’s post because HE called Cotto a chump, not me. He said:
“I hope cotto get FINISHED in this fight! I can’t stand this CHUMP! I will NOT BUY this fight if it’s on PPV!!”

My response to him was:
ahhh… Chump?? hmm… Cotto has fought world champs Cesar Bazan, Carlos Maussa, Lovemore Ndou, Randall Bailey, Ricardo Torres, Paul Malignaggi, Carlos Quintana, Zab Judah, Shane Mosley, Antonio Margarito (2x) Joshua Clottey, Manny Pacquiao, Yuri Foreman, Ricardo Mayorga, Floyd Mayweather, Austin Trout and… and soon Sergio Martinez will be added to the list. Not too bad for a guy you consider a… “CHUMP”?? Oh well…
Posted May 20, 2014 11:39 am

Either way, mephisto, I hope you got it right. Peace!

Posted June 8, 2014 10:07 am 


PEEJ

Floyd didn’t ask for a Catchweight before when he fought Cotto. Why would he ask for another one? Cotto came in at 155. Probably weighed close to the same weight day of the fight as he did with Floyd. People would say he was cherry picking if he fought Cotto again. Every one saying Cotto was done in the first fight and claimed Floyd was getting old since Cotto gave him a bloody nose. This fight only proved that he wasn’t. If Floyd fought a rematch Floyd would win again and Cotto would lose his Championship title

Posted June 8, 2014 10:06 am 


REM

Cotto would destroy Floyd right now. If they do fight Cotto should make Floyd fight at the Garden at whatever weight Cotto wants. Man the Garden was electric last night great night for us.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:04 am 


Pratt

Floyd will want a catch weight where Cotto will be drained, period. I would like to see a rematch though but not where Cotto looses his weight and power just to meet little Floyd’s demands.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:00 am 


Dan Ambrose

WBA middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin (29-0, 26 KO’s) is hoping he can get a shot at the winner of the June 7th fight between WBC middleweight champion Sergio Martinez vs. Miguel Cotto. Golovkin matches up well with either of these guys, and it would give Golovkin his first big name of his career.

Golovkin thought he was close to getting a fight against former WBC middleweight champion Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, but the negotiations between the two fighters’ teams fell apart recently leaving Golovkin staring at a fight against either Daniel Geale, who was beaten last year by Darren Barker, or Jarrod Fletcher. Neither option is particularly interesting.

“It’s very interesting [Cotto vs. Martinez] to me,” Golovkin said to ESPN’s Dan Rafael. “Sergio is bigger, he is stronger. Miguel is small, too small for Sergio. Of course, I want to fight the person who will win the fight. It would be very big. I want to fight the winner.”

It would be a big fight between Golovkin and the winner of the Cotto-Martinez fight. It would be the biggest fight in the middleweight division right now. However, I don’t think either of these guys will want to mix it up with a puncher like Golovkin. I would be very surprised if either of them agreed to fight Golovkin. I’d say the chances of the winner of the Cotto vs. Martinez fighting Golovkin are less than 5%.

Cotto has already talked about not defending the WBC middleweight title if he wins it. He just wanted to win the belt in order to capture a 4th division world title. Cotto is expected to move down to the junior middleweight division and fight Saul “Canelo” Alvarez win or lose in his fight against Sergio Martinez. Golden Boy Promotions Oscar De La Hoya is eager to match Canelo and Cotto up. But as far as Golovkin goes, he’s not likely to even be given a consideration by Sergio and Cotto. He’s too good.

Posted June 8, 2014 9:55 am 


Wearerofallthebelts

Mephisto we get it. Some people predicted it wrong. *gasp*

Posted June 8, 2014 9:55 am 


Papo

Regardless whether we like Cotto or not, he’s in the driver seat as far as deciding who to fight next. Floyd is not getting any younger and it show against Maidana. Cotto has a good chance of beating him in a rematch, though I think Floyd will fight Khan next.

Contrary to what many here believe, Cotto-GG would be a close fight and I favor Cotto…after all, most of you expected Martinez to walk all over Cotto. GG may be as good as the majority of boxing fans believe, but so far his opponent’s quality has been weak. His record is not any better than Canelo’s before facing Floyd.

Canelo would be a good opponent but his facing Lara and may come out as the loser when the fight is over. However, if he wins, that’s the fight to be made and where Cotto can make the most money…other than against Floyd.

Posted June 8, 2014 9:53 am 


JoeKidd

This is a new fighter. Exceptional defence, smarts, combination punching, confidence. Floyd would run to Manny instead of this guy. This guy would do some serious gut damage!

Posted June 8, 2014 9:51 am 


mephisto

“Kareem Abdul-Jabaar

Martinez is the naturally bigger man,and has been at MW along time, I can see him knocking out Cotto.Cotto is to brave for his own good.

Posted May 13, 2014 3:07 pm “

Posted June 8, 2014 9:47 am 


mephisto

“castellanos

Cotto will be punished ,, worst than pacquido punish him ,,,,

Posted May 13, 2014 3:09 pm “

Posted June 8, 2014 9:46 am 


mephisto

“Fight Aficionado

Martinez will win by KO. Unless he breaks both of his knees during the fight.

Posted May 13, 2014 5:04 pm “

Posted June 8, 2014 9:44 am 


mephisto

“Cockbreath

Sergio has to much in the kit for Cotto

Posted May 13, 2014 10:05 pm “

Posted June 8, 2014 9:43 am 


mephisto

“Anonymous

Martinez will knock Cotto out, he is bigger, faster, hits harder, has more stamina, has superior defense……………

Posted May 14, 2014 2:09 am “

Posted June 8, 2014 9:41 am 


mephisto

“Killa

Martinez legs won’t stand the pressure Cotto is going to put on him. I see it a UD or Late TKO Cotto. Martinez feels good now but when he is under pressure his legs are going to give up.

Posted May 14, 2014 9:33 pm”

Posted June 8, 2014 9:38 am 


mephisto

“SLIM

I like Miguel Cotto, hes a Hall of fame fighter no doubt. But he may be in over his head this time.

Posted May 14, 2014 10:07 pm “

Posted June 8, 2014 9:37 am 


mephisto

“EyEs

Martinex wobbly legs are done. Andy Murray already proved it. Even though Cotto is way past prime and a welterweight, he will keep pressure on and put Martinex on a run around the ring for the whole night, and tire him out.

Posted May 15, 2014 2:37 pm “

Posted June 8, 2014 9:36 am 


mephisto

“dick tiger

I don’t think Martinez is going to be moving away from Cotto in this fight. I think he is going to fight in an attacking manner, and do his best to KO Cotto.

Posted May 16, 2014 3:30 am”

Posted June 8, 2014 9:34 am 


mephisto

“RAYGORDON REID

martinez

Posted May 17, 2014 7:02 am “

Posted June 8, 2014 9:31 am 


anonymous

I think Cotto has improved under Roach training. Nevertheless maybe he should go through another route and not fight Mayweather, as I think Mayweather’s almost invincible at the moment. He has built his defense to a new sphere reaching the boredom to most spectators as he cannot knock anyone out like he was able when he was younger, but still he can’t be hurt. I’m very sceptical Cotto could beat him in a rematch yet I wouldn’t want the middleweight belt slip into Mayweather’s hands, because somehow he hasn’t deserved it.

Posted June 8, 2014 9:27 am 


mephisto

“EZ E

Talk to my promoter said:

“I hope cotto get FINISHED in this fight! I can’t stand this CHUMP! I will NOT BUY this fight if it’s on PPV!!”

ahhh… Chump?? hmm… Cotto has fought world champs Cesar Bazan, Carlos Maussa, Lovemore Ndou, Randall Bailey, Ricardo Torres, Paul Malignaggi, Carlos Quintana, Zab Judah, Shane Mosley, Antonio Margarito (2x) Joshua Clottey, Manny Pacquiao, Yuri Foreman, Ricardo Mayorga, Floyd Mayweather, Austin Trout and… and soon Sergio Martinez will be added to the list. Not too bad for a guy you consider a… “CHUMP”?? Oh well…

Posted May 20, 2014 11:39 am “

Posted June 8, 2014 9:26 am 


Boxtradamus

Cotto won by KO exactly as I predicted. I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!!

Posted June 8, 2014 9:24 am 


mephisto

“BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

I have a small willy, but please don’t hold that against me.

Posted May 20, 2014 4:58 pm”

Posted June 8, 2014 9:22 am 


mephisto

“PEEJ

I hope Cotto beat Martinez. Not sure he will because of his size. Martinez is overrated.

Posted May 20, 2014 10:59 pm “

Posted June 8, 2014 9:20 am 


mephisto

“Tomato Can

Cotto will get busted up in this one, but he has enough power in his left hook to put Martinez on his seat. So, this will be one of those fights where everyone will be hoping Cotto lands one while he’s being steadily out pointed and beat up.

Posted May 20, 2014 10:52 pm “

Posted June 8, 2014 9:19 am 


Public Enemy

Cotto barely weighed 155lbs.. basically still a Welterweight fight night.. While Sergio had to be over 168lbs..

Posted June 8, 2014 9:19 am 


Public Enemy

As I stated here long ago, Cotto’s Cuban Trainer was all wrong for him, tried to turn Cotto into a pitty pat finesse Boxer.. vs Mayweather Cotto had success when he fought like the old Cotto, when he listened to his Trainer and tried to OutBox Mayweather he lost rounds.. very simple to see the Cuban Trainers strategy was all wrong.. Freddy understands Cotto and what makes him great.. in a rematch vs Mayweather, this version of Cotto would do somne serious damage to Floyd and Paquiao..

Posted June 8, 2014 9:18 am 


mephisto

“largo

Cotto by stoppage

Posted May 21, 2014 12:33 am “

Posted June 8, 2014 9:18 am 


mephisto

“TARK

The problems Martinez had with his knees in his last 2 fights are still with him.. You wouldn’t see him with those knee sleeves and braces on if he had healthy knees.. He’s 39 years old.. That’s old for a middleweight.

Cotto’s lack of height doesn’t bother him.. He easily out-jabbed Mosley and jabbed the crap out of the 5’11″ Cheato when he was sans plaster… Cheato is taller than Martinez.

I’m looking for Martinez to win do to his speed, power, and better boxing skills… but Cotto will be a good sized middleweight on fight night… He’s not giving up anything size wise… Mike Tyson was 4 inches shorter than Michael Spinks but height disadvantage didn’t bother him.

Posted May 24, 2014 11:23 pm “

Posted June 8, 2014 9:16 am 


mephisto

“Boxtradamus

Love-the-Sport-Height and reach are not the factors. SKILLS is the factor. Cotto is BETTER than every Fighter that Martinez has ever fought. Martinez is still BETTER than Cotto though and THAT is why he will WIN. The height and reach are side notes and EXCUSES for taking the LOSS. LOOK at Mike Tyson’s height and reach. Height and reach are not the factors. SKILLS ARE.

Posted May 22, 2014 8:09 pm”

Posted June 8, 2014 9:11 am 


mephisto

“Straight Right

Mike Tyson – I agree the fight can go either way, but I think Cotto’s experience will really be the difference. He’s on the decline in this stage of his career, but so is Martinez. More so Sergio than Miguel. It’s really a toss em fight. Guys that have knocked out Cotto applied pressure nonstop, and that’s not Martinez’ style.

Posted May 22, 2014 4:27 pm”

Posted June 8, 2014 9:09 am 


mephisto

“Jim Rich

Um cotto is over the hill and this fight isn’t going to be good for him. Cotto is decent fighter but he lost one to many steps to have much of a chance in this one.

Posted May 22, 2014 3:28 pm “

Posted June 8, 2014 9:08 am 


mephisto

“Mike Tyson

And on the other hand I want to see MArtinez the bully get humbled, and I also want cotto to win.
So anyway it’s goes I sort of happy.

Posted May 22, 2014 2:14 pm “

Posted June 8, 2014 9:07 am 


BUSTAJAY

mephisto

“BUSTAJAY

Sergio took some massive hits from JR and there is no way Cotto can come near that power.

I like Cotto but unless he can stay moving and fight outside, hard to do with his small size compared to Sergio, he is going to taste some power shots that will have him taking a knee with a bloody face.

Cotto has the will and heart but he has never been in front of a guy this size who has proven it takes power to stop him cold.

Sergio TKO on poor Cptto in less than 10 rds

Posted May 22, 2014 3:07 pm “

Posted June 8, 2014 8:58 am

HAHAHAHA….I was so wrong I had two ding dongs….

Posted June 8, 2014 9:07 am 


mephisto

“Octavius Jomar Chatman

I’m pulling for Cotto….He is going to have to bring his A+ game….His going to have to fight the fight of his life; but I believe he can do it……

Posted May 22, 2014 2:00 pm”

Posted June 8, 2014 9:06 am 


mephisto

“TARK

More of Sredmond’s BS.., “Miguel who is a SMALL 154 pounder and nobodys 160 pounder.”

Cotto is NOT a small 154-pounder… He came into the ring at 165 for Floyd.

Cotto will probably weigh into the ring bigger than Martinez. If they both weigh-in at 159 Cotto will weigh 170 into the ring and Martinez about 166. Sergio says he can still make 154. He just got his title chance at 160 so he acclimated to the weight.

Posted May 21, 2014 10:39 pm “

Posted June 8, 2014 9:04 am 


mephisto

“TARK

Cotto can’t make 147. He was 165 for Floyd and Floyd can’t make 150.

It’s the weight not the height… Cotto will be a solid middleweight for Martinez, he’s gotten a lot bigger.

Tyson was a heavyweight and he’s 5’10″…

Posted May 21, 2014 11:30 pm”

Posted June 8, 2014 9:03 am 


SREDMOND

Cotto Is gonna face Canelo or Floyd it’s that simple, he’s not gonna campaign at MW, the $$$ is not there and despite the win he’s not suited to the division.. Both an FMJ or Canelo bout get him OVER 10 mill it’s a no Brainer..

Posted June 8, 2014 9:01 am 


mephisto

“BUSTAJAY

Sergio took some massive hits from JR and there is no way Cotto can come near that power.

I like Cotto but unless he can stay moving and fight outside, hard to do with his small size compared to Sergio, he is going to taste some power shots that will have him taking a knee with a bloody face.

Cotto has the will and heart but he has never been in front of a guy this size who has proven it takes power to stop him cold.

Sergio TKO on poor Cptto in less than 10 rds

Posted May 22, 2014 3:07 pm “

Posted June 8, 2014 8:58 am 


mephisto

“Fight Aficionado

Martinez cherry picking a blown up jr welterweight Cotto instead of facing GGG to unify belts at 160. Meaningless fight here.

Posted May 22, 2014 6:46 pm “

Posted June 8, 2014 8:57 am 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Congratulations to Miguel Cotto for knocking-out Sergio Martinez to become the new Lineal/WBC world middleweight champion! He earned this victory and world title to his career legacy.

I’m glad that Cotto won, as I never felt Martinez was a interesting middleweight world champion or one of the best either in the middleweight league. All ready from the start when he won the world title from Kelly Pavlik back in April 2010 I droped him intersting when he made the STUPID mistake to drop the WBO title from the once unified crown unified by Bernard Hopkins.

Sergio Martinez was a good boxer in his best days and he made 2 interesting fights as middleweight champ with his rematch KO 2 victory over Paul Williams in 2010 and his UD victory over Julio Cesar Chavez Jr in 2012 But the other 4 defences was no special to me.

Martinez felt like a title holder who was not interesting to fight thretning opponents so under 4 years he was mostly silent on wanting to unify the world middleweight titles and he did not make it better by avoiding Gennedy Golovkin either.
NOW I hope we can have Lineal/WBC champ Miguel Cotto to go and challange the other middleweight world champs: WBA – Gennedy Golovkin, IBF – Sam Soliman & WBO – Peter Quillin.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:53 am 


boxing barlow

I dont see much point in a rematch with Floyd. Its a good fight but thers better to be made out there for both fighters than going over old ground. Realistically as Martinez was the linear champ at middleweight and ergo Cotto now has that title a fight with the number two guy in the division (ggg) makes sense looking at it logically. However if I was part of Cotto’s team i wouldnt go near GGG! He’s knocking out full blown middleweights out for fun and has a huge size and strength advantage over Cotto. I dont think the boxing public would hold it against Cotto for swerving that fight due to it being physical mis match. A fight with Alvarez makes more sense to me as it would be competetive and would sell big time.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:51 am 


SREDMOND

Freddie Roach can’t help Cotto with Floyd, he can’t get Manny a clean win over Marquez after 4x

Posted June 8, 2014 8:44 am 


SREDMOND

This fight is a strong possibility because it will sell, because Cotto looked better than he has in years and Mayweather had a tough fight.. The result will be the same but I have no issues with the bout… Cottos a free agent so the Top Rank issue goes away..

Posted June 8, 2014 8:42 am 


mephisto

Riviera, we get it, you hate Cotto; go away now.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:33 am 


curtley

This is Floyds chance to win the middleweight title, whatever you think of GGG, Sergio was the number 1 at MW now Cotto has beaten him he is the man at the weight Floyd should rematch Cotto at 160 as he is not really much bigger than Floyd and think it would be much like the first fight and maybe even closer.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:30 am 


Riviera

Nonsense. Mayweather would knock Cotto out. And they shouldn’t even consider a GGG fight..

Posted June 8, 2014 8:30 am 


mephisto

Roach should pursue that blond girl, she showed some interest in the old fart.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:27 am 


dick tiger

Roach the hell with all of these catch weight fights. Your fighter just won the middleweight championship of the world. Fight at 160lb, and defend the title against the winner of Geale vs Golovkin.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:22 am 


Pappy Jack

We are all certain Floyd won’t accept a second fight. I think he is gonna fight some no name bum and hype him to be something formidable.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:22 am 


KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR

CJ LEE; You prediction should be the other way round,Lara stops Canelo.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:19 am 


Pugfan

Maidana softened him up for the rematch.

Posted June 8, 2014 7:59 am 


joe w

Cotto called out canelo. Canelo said no. Didn’t even think twice about fighting cotto.

Posted June 8, 2014 7:58 am 


Hosteen

Mayweather wins rematch – No questions about it n not deserving of any print

Posted June 8, 2014 7:57 am 


joe w

He called out canelo. Canelo turned the fight down flat out said no. He didn’t duck any one.

Posted June 8, 2014 7:56 am 


CJ Lee

Ok Cotto, good win! Let’s see you stop ducking Canelo Alvarez after he beats Lara.

Posted June 8, 2014 7:51 am 



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