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K2 Fan

Geez , is that ” Igor ” AGAIN ?

Posted May 31, 2014 9:38 am 


Just watched a re-run of Groves and Kenny Anderson. Groves got backed up, caught, buzzed heavily and floored by a novice, zombie-slow robot. He was totally gone, but the bell saved him. All Kenny did was walk him down behind a high guard, but Kenny couldn’t finish and got done by body shots.

Groves is chinny and will go down if tagged.

Posted May 30, 2014 9:16 am 


joker: with respect Johnson didn’t come close to beating Froch. He landed a handful of right-hands but that was it. Johnson covers up about as well as anyone and managed to “old-man” his way through fights with both Froch and Groves, losing widely but without really taking too much. Dirrell no doubt had the talent and ability to beat Froch but didn’t do enough the take the title that night. If he’d have fought as much as he ran, held and complained then yes he could have won but as it was it was a stinker for both men and myself as a paying fan at the arena that night! Froch lost a close fight to Kessler in Denmark when I thought he coasted for long spells costing him precious rounds while Kessler was working. Ward beat Froch good and proper and I’d wager would do so again next time. Anyway, despite all this debating I can honestly stand to see Froch lose a fight or two given the standard of his competition over the years. I’m happy that a world champion has taken on the best competition available to him over such a long time and is still doing so now in facing young lions like Groves. Froch is an example of a world champion to me and although I find it hard to pick a winner this time I’ll be cheering for him!

Posted May 30, 2014 5:20 am 

tarks daddy

Groves is a sh..ty fighter

Posted May 30, 2014 4:28 am 


Ej..1 ,,,b

Posted May 30, 2014 4:17 am 


@D go suck on groves alls

Posted May 30, 2014 4:16 am 

Geoff Thompson

Groves is a grade A a-hole and Froch isn’t far behind.

Posted May 30, 2014 3:55 am 


groves’ best punch is a straight right. since when is he a big left hooker? the left hook story is bs froch didn’t fall for. he’s pretending he does.

when groves lands his right hand really well he doesn’t even followup well with the left hook. maybe that’s something he’s worked hard on, but I think his big thing will be to get his right hand in and not worry too much about his left hook.

Posted May 30, 2014 3:20 am 

Mick the Marmalizer

Seconds out headline: Quote- Groves plans surprize left hook for Froch. Not going to much of a surprize is it if it’s all over the press!

Posted May 30, 2014 3:13 am 


@joker.. you don’t know wtf you’re talking about.

froch took undefeated world champ lucian bute out early. be’s the only fighter to stop bute. he displayed very destructive firepower. he also stopped groves.

prematurely, but he was getting the job done at the step-in

Posted May 30, 2014 2:51 am 


you’re an idiot. this is a great matchup. that’s why it’s a sellout. Over 80,000 people bought tickets to see it live.

Posted May 30, 2014 2:44 am 


These guys are a pair of clowns cmom man we need better matchups than this.

Posted May 30, 2014 2:39 am 


Joker…learn some about boxers records before you start calling people uneducated fools…..Its no-marks like you who are hopeless

Posted May 30, 2014 2:29 am 


I think the difference in this fight is that Groves, for all his denial, actually knows Froch can stop him.
In the first fight he did’nt believe it could happen.

Posted May 30, 2014 2:10 am 


People predicting an early <6 round knockout for Froch doesn't understand boxing at all. WHen has Froch been this murderous puncher that blows people out the water early. Hopeless uneducated fools

Posted May 30, 2014 1:15 am 


you are an ignorant ass

Posted May 29, 2014 11:30 pm 


You are right

Posted May 29, 2014 11:22 pm 


Froch has got the right idea. A boxer doesn’t put on a suit and tie when he goes to work. pull on workout pants and a T and you’re ready for the media.

You look more formidable and professional in a T. Nobody in a suit is going to start throwing bombs. Groves looks like a pretender.

It reminds me of Floyd doing his last media conference in a T — while Maidana showed up looking like he was dressed for his wedding. Doesn’t help.

For Floyd’s previous fight it looked like Canelo was wearing Spanks beneath his pants a couple times.

Posted May 29, 2014 11:09 pm 


Havent seen non of these bosos fight but i think the one on the right holding the two belts is going to win

Posted May 29, 2014 10:43 pm 


No chance this fight won’t live up to its buildup. Most anticipated fight since Matthysse-Garcia. Groves by KO.

Posted May 29, 2014 10:37 pm 

Card share

Froch by devastating KO, will not go past the 6th round.

Posted May 29, 2014 9:20 pm 


Jeez, Groves just talks complete rubbish.
Don’t think I’ve ever wanted a fighter to get a hiding as much as I want Groves too, since, well I can’t remeber when.

Guess they must have sold me the rematch any way they can.

Posted May 29, 2014 9:02 pm 

Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster

It’s a 50/50 fight as well as a massive event, I can’t wait to see which way it goes. I still feel that Groves lost energy and power after the 6th round last time and listened to Costello & Buncey saying the same thing earlier. Groves seemed demoralised after throwing everything he had at Froch and seeing Froch come back for more. As far as I could see he faded more psychologically than physically. His punches lacked commitment from the 7th round and Froch was gaining confidence.

If the fight turns into another brawl like that, I think that Froch wins. Groves needs to keep his distance and not go gung-ho or he’ll end up crying again. Just like both Froch/Kessler fights, I expect this one to live up to the hype.

Posted May 29, 2014 7:33 pm 


Fight Aficionado is a pervo

Posted May 29, 2014 7:11 pm 

men go to war,girls go to there mom

@Anonymous,go seek attention off your absent mom you sad feeble little bum

Posted May 29, 2014 6:13 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Also we’ll get to hear that British wench of his scream bloody murder throughout. Wonder if she’s still breast feeding their kid or Froch. If I was him I’d make her breastfeed till the kid is 10 so I could take a milk shower everyday.

Posted May 29, 2014 6:08 pm 

Fight Aficionado

A good evenly matched world title fight on regular HBO, not PPV. That’s how it should be. Gonna be a fun show.

Posted May 29, 2014 6:06 pm 


so why does everyone think bent nose can’t fight any worse than the first fight? as far as i can see from his past bouts this is how he fights against anyone with movement. the only time froch has looked good is when the guy is stood in front of him all night and they trade. i can only see a groves victory by classy 12 round domination of moving and being disciplined, if he has put in the conditioning work. i don’t believe that was his best and he can definitely improve on a lot of things.

Posted May 29, 2014 5:59 pm 

Boxing Barlow

People are talking about Groves to slow down after the mid point of the fight like he is unaware that Froch will come on strong towards the end. make no bones about it Groves will be doing some serious conditioning work and will be training to go 12 hard rounds. Plenty of fighter have managed to go the distance with froch in the past without getting seriously hurt so I can see no reason why Groves cant do this if he employs the right game plan. Froch’s only chance is to hope that Groves gets too amitious and gopes for the knock out and wastes his energy.

Posted May 29, 2014 5:47 pm 

Reality Bites

Remember Froch in his amateur days and also his pro career has never lost a rematch. Froch was fighing at his worst that night and still got the better of Groves in the later rounds. Expect Froch to be taking Groves a lot more seriously than last time. When Froch is focused he’s a different animal. Expect Groves to tank out into the later rounds. Froch will be in the zone for all the fight this time. I expect TKO in Round 5 from Froch. I could hedge my bets and say it goes the distance but Froch seems very calm this time around and focused. He hasn’t let the trash talk get to him this time. Bad times for Groves. And also Froch comes on stronger in the later rounds so I can’t see Groves keeping the pace up for that long.

Posted May 29, 2014 5:40 pm 


Woods rips odds, Hopkins!
IBF light heavyweight champion Clinton Woods has taken offense against the sportsbook who established as a 4:1 underdog to unified super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe, should that fight ever be made. “I’m not 4-1 against anyone, that just complete rubbish, and with all due respect to Joe’s great win, a lot of people believe he was beaten by Robin Reid and he was knocked down by Byron Mitchell and Karaby Salem. Again, with respect, I am a lot better that all three of them put together and I’ve been a light heavyweight for nearly a decade. I will be stronger and a harder puncher than anyone Joe has ever faced. It would be fantastic fight.” Woods also scoffed at the idea of a proposed fight between Calzaghe and 42-year-old former middleweight champion Bernard Hopkins. “Name me one exciting Bernard Hopkins fight, just one,” challenged Woods. “Exactly! The guy is a complete bore to watch, good as he is. He doesn’t bring any friends to the arena, much less any fans…let’s be honest, Hopkins is only interested in easy nights against undersized opponents or opponents he recognizes as being past their best and Joe is big and in his prime. Hopkins is on cruise and collect mode, he’s on a pension run. If the fight ever did happen, Hopkins would will try and pick-pocket his way to a close points win and we’ve seen Joe get dragged down into messy, scrappy fights by guys who come with avoiding getting hurt as their top priority. Who on Earth wants to see that?”
Monday, November 5 2007

Posted May 29, 2014 5:30 pm 



Posted May 29, 2014 4:30 pm 


BB..Yeah I like the wee fella to,great fighter in his time…..

Posted May 29, 2014 4:09 pm 


watch out that silly idiot billy no balls has been let out.

Posted May 29, 2014 3:46 pm 


dude ! that six times he found a way to win. “almost lost” what a dimba$$

Posted May 29, 2014 3:33 pm 


groves could do with a new rug.

Posted May 29, 2014 3:13 pm 



Posted May 29, 2014 3:00 pm 

home cured bacon

f~k ok ken barlow

Posted May 29, 2014 2:56 pm 

Boxing Barlow

There has been a lot of talk about retirement for Froch if he looses this. I honestly dont think if he as i expect him to looses this fight it will be right for him to retire. I think Groves is a class act and has been seriously under rated in the past. If Groves wins as i expect him to I wouldnt expect it to be any worse a loss than that which Froch suffered against Ward. He will have just met a better fighter. I would love to see him continue and fight in America against Chvez Jnr or move up and fight Stevenson, Pascal rematch (as he had previously promised) or even Kovalev! Imagine Froch Kovalev, what a war that would be!

Posted May 29, 2014 2:53 pm 

Boxing Barlow

Rich – Jim Watts a legend. Best comentator in the game in my opinion. A joy to listen to. Every time he mentions the ‘gymnasium’ I chuckle!

Posted May 29, 2014 2:50 pm 

Dan D

Really good article. You have made some very valid points about the first fight and a solid prediction for the rematch; solid but safe. I’m taking Groves on points. I think he will win the first 6 rounds on ability before Froch pours it on between 9 and 12. It’ll be a close fight but Groves will do enough. Froch is still a warrior though and I wouldn’t normally bet against him but I feel Groves will pull this off.

Posted May 29, 2014 2:49 pm 

khans uncle

you me giggle BOXDRAMA, dik head lol

Posted May 29, 2014 2:25 pm 


Groves by punishing KO inside 8 rounds.

Posted May 29, 2014 2:15 pm 


Joker – that’s 6 “almost losses” priceless.

Intl judges don’t give “almost wins”.

Posted May 29, 2014 2:10 pm 


Joker – what a great handle for your posts.

Posted May 29, 2014 2:07 pm 


I see it as a very close fight, as in the first I am leaning towards froch mainly due to his stamina, I really hope they don’t have jim watt commentating again as that was worse than the stoppage.

Posted May 29, 2014 2:03 pm 


@flydog “Froch was really that straight forward to beat then others besides Kessler and Ward would have done so”

Dirrel did it. Taylor did it to a degree. He’s been exposed and found wanting various times, but he’s always seemed to get the rub of the green so to speak. His losses could easily have included Ward, Kessler1, Dirrel, Taylor, Groves heck even Old man Johnson had a case.

That’s SIX losses in a 4 year period… not quite the “p4p international superstar”.

Also he does get away with elbowing hitting after the break hitting behind the head , holding the head with one glove and smacking it with the other quite regularly. He’s a fairly dirty fighter and what he lacks in technique he makes up for with fouling, a great chin and stamina.

Don’t underestimate the role fouling plays, hopefully the ref will be on point on sat night.

Posted May 29, 2014 1:57 pm 


the worst stoppage ever was maccarenelli vs some bum. horrific stoppage. cant remember his name, but its on youtube

Posted May 29, 2014 1:44 pm 

benni g

If it goes past 8 its froch ( i just hope he hasnt over trained) Some fighters (and trust me i know)
can over train and obsess!!!!
A fighter of 36 needs to take his foot off the gas when training and not train the same way as if he is 21 thats a problem!!! Needs to save more for the fight, Which i do think was the problem in fight 1
….. but im sure thats not going to be the problem this time
Froch late on (with a few scares haha)

Posted May 29, 2014 1:33 pm 

Proud African

Carl Froch can dig deep. I expect him to win.

Posted May 29, 2014 1:18 pm 


Barlow: you make a convincing argument but if Froch was really that straight forward to beat then others besides Kessler and Ward would have done so. Froch is actually quite an awkward fighter who possess a long punishing jab when he uses it. I expect him to be fully switched on this time and ready to exert more control over the fight. Fascinating stuff!!

Posted May 29, 2014 1:03 pm 


Halitosis is a product of a build up of bacteria in the mouth usually down to decay.

But like they say, everything for a reason.

Posted May 29, 2014 12:52 pm 


Oh hello Boxtra. Didn’t see you there. Looking forward to one of your fab predictions so I can put a bet on the exact opposite. You;ve made me rich my man. :)

Posted May 29, 2014 12:50 pm 


Sniff sniff, I smell an an*us

Posted May 29, 2014 12:45 pm 

Boxing Barlow

Ha ha Bears, well we will see fight night. I’m watching it at home and will be on here as the fight progresses popping a few comments on gloating about how my predictions are coming true lol.

Posted May 29, 2014 12:14 pm 


of course groves could win. im rooting for froch

Posted May 29, 2014 12:13 pm 


^^^this fight from frochs end is all about gap control and working off the inside and off the clinch and letting his hands go inside. froch needs a close quarters battle and to not let groces create a gap while they are letting their hands go. froch needs to make it a street fight and fight his game on the inside mean and relentless. he is a veteran who could do this. similar to what the approach lennox was forced to take against vitaly. froch needs to be mean and relentless and negate groves legs and hand speed like lennox tried like bernard hopkins does.

bernard incorporates his opponents attack into closing the gap and getting his positioning for striking. bernards not the mist successful or appealing anymore but its a possible technique employed to counter a style.

round 9 was son. groves had gone from control and postured to getting controlled. to a crisis. i dont even know how anyone could say frochs shots where just hitting his gloves. you clearly are fabricating sh!t or did watch the bombs landing on groves temple and jaw

i just watched it sky even replays some of it in slow mo. even the announcers had mentioned stoppage before the ref stopped it. lol and they were huggin groves nuts like no other

Posted May 29, 2014 12:10 pm 


this fight from frochs end is all about gap control and working off the inside and off the clinch and letting his hands go inside. froch needs a close quarters battle and to not let groces create a gap while they are letting their hands go. froch needs to make it a street fight and fight his game on the inside mean and relentless. he is a veteran who could do this. similar to what the approach lennox was forced to take against vitaly. froch needs to be mean and relentless and negate groves legs and hand speed like lennox tried like bernard hopkins does.

bernard incorporates his opponents attack into closing the gap and getting his positioning for striking. bernards not the mist successful or appealing anymore but its a possible technique employed to counter a style.

round 9 was son. groves had gone from control and postured to getting controlled. to a crisis. i dont even know how anyone could say frochs shots where just hitting his gloves. you clearly are fabricating sh!t or did watch the bombs landing on groves temple and jaw

i just watched it sky even replays some of it in slow mo. even the announcers had mentioned stoppage before the ref stopped it. lol and they were huggin groves nuts like no other

Posted May 29, 2014 12:09 pm 


IMHO Froch is simply not an accurate enough or dare I say it hard enough puncher to put Groves away with one punch. He throws arm punches and swarms on a guy who is stationary – thats how he gets his stoppage wins.

If Groves is in the shape everyone believes him to be, he will run rings around Carl, keeping him off with a stiff jab and shocking him with a lightning overhand right. Ducking underneath and destroying him with left hooks.

What started Groves downfall in the first fight was running out of gas causing him to ease up the pressure and slowing him down to the point where he ducked into a right hand, instead of underneath.

I think Groves’ better physical conditioning this time, in conjunction with further adjustments to his style, especially concerning exploiting Froch’s defense even more will both prove to be far too much for Froch to handle.

Groves by KO.

Posted May 29, 2014 11:59 am 


groves has the no gas in the tank after 7 rounds. same ending.

Posted May 29, 2014 11:53 am 

Boxing Barlow

Hey, and I actually bet Froch to KO Groves and won a nice few quid. I am and have been a Froch fan for years. Im only calling it as I seen it. My moneys on Groves on points this time though. Out of the two fighters for me its Groves who can make the biggest adjustments and change his game plan to the winning formula. Froch cant get any faster. His reflexes cant get any quicker. Groves will be able to get at Froch exactly the same as he did in the first fight. The big question is can Froch grind Groves down. IMO Groves would have to be making the biggest error of judgement to approach this fight in a way whcih would allow Froch to do this. When all the smack talk is done I honestly cant see that Groves will try nad make this another hagler Hearns.

Posted May 29, 2014 11:52 am 

Boxing Barlow

Watch the fight in slow motion guys. Most of Frochs shots were hitting Groves on the gloves and Froch was backing Groves up by pushing is way forward rather than hitting him with clean shots. IMO Groves was gassing out rather than Froch was hurting him. Groves landed a left hook literally a second before the fight was stopped.

Posted May 29, 2014 11:47 am 


all froch has to do is close the gap keep it closed and hit groves with his F-BOMBS especially that right. keep the gap closed and negate the legs of groves. be close enough to grab the belt of groves. in that range its all the froch show. work off the clinch if u have to froch. if u negate groves lunging attack i dont see how you will loose. keep the gap close. the wider the gap the better the odds to the fast hands landing first. get’em froch!!!

Posted May 29, 2014 11:45 am 


flydog- obviously groves was done. he was clearly hurt, and getting jacked up at the point if the stoppage. groves game was gone. destroyed by froch. where groves could get away or tie up earlier that was all done. he was hurt and toast and getting pummled and had futilely shelled up and got stationary. froch blasted through his weak shell even hitting him with a left right combo sendig him into the ropes. its not like groves was not done for. the character of the fight had changed completely at that point and froch was strait STEALING ON HIM WITH FROCH BOMBS. the end was obvious maybe some uk cats just love controversy. there was little controversy if any, that end seemed inevitable before the fight was stopped

Posted May 29, 2014 11:39 am 


Barlow: With respect I didn’t think it was the worst stoppage I’ve ever seen and I realise that this opinion will see me shot down in flames by many on here! In fairness to Groves at the time of the stoppage I wasn’t thinking “stop it ref” but he was reeling on the ropes having been put on jelly legs by Froch several seconds previous. At the point Foster jumps in Groves is bent double at the waist, his arms hanging down by his side and looking at the canvas which is hardly a position from which to defend yourself. When Foster releases Groves from his arms George takes a knee. Why? It’s only because of the backlash that I wish the fight had not been stopped so Froch’s victory would not have been so tainted and an extra 5 seconds would have provided a more definative ending but for me Groves was, and always have been, on his way out.

Posted May 29, 2014 11:29 am 


Groves will be the first man to BREAK Froch.

Posted May 29, 2014 11:28 am 


Managed to get a ticket today so can’t wait!!!

Want Froch to win, but betting on Groves. Can’t lose either way!!

Posted May 29, 2014 11:17 am 

Boxing Barlow

dempsey – The undercard is not quite that bad. There is some good fighters on it but I feel their fights could be against more competetive opposition.

Posted May 29, 2014 11:13 am 

Boxing Barlow

dick tiger – I absolutely agree. If you watch the final seconds in slow motion you see Froch landing cuffing shots round the sides of Groves gloves. There was no doubt Groves was eating some shots but most were not getting through and it was more of a mawling by Froch. Even though after Froch throw this flurry of punches literally seconds before you see Groves throw a left hook and copnnect with Froch. This shot is threw where the ref could not see it top be fair, but the hook was thrown and then Groves was ducking out of the way and stepping to his right where Howard foster had postitioned himself. groves’ plan was obviously to throw the shot, duck out of range to the right and then clinch onto froch to take a breather. Foster I think seen Groves’ head go down and when he bumped into foster I think he took that as a sign that Groves was done, not realising he had only just threw that left hook. Either way Groves was not only defending himself but he was throwing shots back. It is one of the worst stoppages Ive ever seen given the magnitude of the fight.

Posted May 29, 2014 11:08 am 


hope it lives up to the hype cos the undercard is two bob.

Posted May 29, 2014 11:05 am 


very well written article

Posted May 29, 2014 11:04 am 

dick tiger

I just watched their first fight. That was one of the worst stoppages I have ever seen. I’m glad that they are having another go at it. I think its going to be a very entertaining fight.

Posted May 29, 2014 10:57 am 

Boxing Barlow

DMX – er… Froch won last time lol

Posted May 29, 2014 10:40 am 


froch on points

Posted May 29, 2014 10:16 am 


Yeah what Boxing Barlow says . . . .

Except Carl Froch wins this time

Posted May 29, 2014 10:10 am 

Boxing Barlow

So here’s how it will go; You heard it here first. Froch will come out very cautious and slow. He will not want to walk into another shot like he did in the first round of the previous fight. He will be expecting Groves to come out fast and strong so will be looking to work behind the jab and not eat too many big shots. He will be happy to give some rounds away at the start of the fight as his game plan will be to catch up with Groves later on in the fight. He will be hoping to make this fight into and marathon not a sprint. Groves on the other hand, after making all of his wild accusations of making this a Haggler Hearn’s fight will come out very cautious too. He will be looking to work behind his jab, double jab and a few jab rear hands. He will be looking to score with shots getting into range and then quickly out of range. His reflexes and speed will mean he will win this round and the next 2 or 3 rounds without putting any serious power behind his shots and using his superior foot work, and reflexes meaning Froch will struggle to land a glove on him. At first Froch will be OK with this as he will be happy to gives away a few rounds at the start of the fight to come on strong later on. However by round five/six Froch will realize that Groves is clocking up rounds without doing any seriously heavy work. Groves will still feel strong in the clinches and realizing that he is not draining him he will change his game plan somewhat. Round 6 onwards fearing he is getting too behind on the cards and is not doing enough to drain Groves energy Froch will come forward more and throw caution to the wind. As he comes in Groves will box well and catch Froch with some very nice counters. Froch maybe even wobbled a few times. The difference from the first fight though will be Groves will not get greedy. His shots will be quick one two counter. Not 3,4 and 5 punch combinations. Froch will come in miss Groves will counter then tie Froch up nicely. He will grab a breather, hold, let the ref split them up and back out a distance before Froch come back in swinging wildly and take more punishment. This will continue until around round 9 or even 10. This will be when Froch will be expecting groves to start gassing out. He will be throwing the kitchen sink at Groves. But Groves will be expecting this. Throughout the fight Groves will feel again and again that he could follow up his successes with a flurry of punches. He will feel he has hurt Froch, but instead of jumping on him he will stand off compose himself and regroup. What will be going through his head will be “take your time George, he’s gonna come at you like a bull at the end of the fight”. And this is what will happen. Froch will throw the kitchen sick at Groves from round 10. But he will feel that Groves will still be strong. As he comes in Groves will seriously buzz him and he will tie him up nicely in the clinches. Froch will probably do enough on work rate alone that he may pick up rounds 10 to 12 but it will be too late on the cards. By round 12 Groves will be using his footwork to dodge Froch around the ring holding his hands up to the crowd to indicate that he feels he has won, Froch will win the last round and maybe two or three other rounds through the fight purely on work rate but Groves will have done more than enough to win the fight. Expect scores of around 7 rounds to 5 or 8 to 4 for Groves, but as per the idiots in boxing don’t be surprised if one rouge judge gives it something stupid like even, or even gives it to Froch purely because of his aggression. At the end of the fight Groves will say that all the talk pre the fight was just that, that his plan after realizing he could not guarantee a knock out against Carl was to box his way to victory this time round.

Posted May 29, 2014 9:45 am 

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