brandon gonzales going to give james degeale all he can handle today maybe even cause a upset gonzalez is strong very good inside fighter as well as on the outside he very smart he fight kinda similar to andre ward he got a good trainer in virgil hunter and he knows how to fight southpaws james be kinda wide with his punches somtimes his balance dont be to good but james got good speed good body puncher for a tall fighter he got good angles and gonzales do seem to fade late in fights alot somtimes so his stamina is suspect so im sure james might be agressive and trying to go to the body but gonzales is more technical with his punches and caculated i see this being close i see gonzales winning by udPosted May 31, 2014 2:13 pm
i got groves over froch i think groves got froch figure out now he wanted this rematch badley while froch didn seem to want the rematch at first groves seem like the more confident fighter more sure of himself but u cant never count out froch tho when he been written off he always come back and put on impressive performances like he did against bute and arthur abraham maybe in the first fight he took groves lighty froch defense got to get better tho he was getting hit to much he got to move his head more be more elusive in past he has the first fight he seem stiff and tight groves just seem faster he threw the better punches only concern for groves is the late rounds i think froch will come better prepared and carl had a bad start the first fight maybe froch seen better days we see but groves is younger and fresher and faster i see groves getting it right this time and winning by ud or late round ko but wont shocked me if froch wins thoPosted May 31, 2014 12:37 pm
Oh no , not ANOTHER picture of ” Igor ” again ?Posted May 31, 2014 9:01 am
Forch to win by KO.Posted May 31, 2014 4:55 am
UK fight fan
Yes I know what you mean tinker bell, I don’t think it will be as bad as the hatton mayweather fight, yeah cheers ooh’s and ahh’s are enough. Maybe there will be some singing in the ring walks etc but not all the way through the fight. Yeah I’m not hating on froch coz he has been great for British boxing and he served up some great fights but it’s true the point you make about new blood and I think the same, froch is nearer the end now GG is the future in that weight for Britain. I just hope we get a cracking fight and both guys say the right thing after and respect each other. Are you guys getting the undercard too? Looks pretty decent, some tasty fights. Enjoy!Posted May 31, 2014 4:28 am
Got a feeling Groves wins this one. Froch is 36 but nobody talks about his age and the tough fights he’s been in. Also Groves is slick and smart enough to outbox him again. He just can’t get caught this time.Posted May 31, 2014 4:10 am
HH > I’m not impressed with Groves. Golovkin would murder Groves. He would give up several pounds but Groves is very easy to punch in the head and body. Groves wouldn’t find Gennady, who made Mackin look like a fool flinging shots while getting touched all the time. Macklin fought a competitive fight with Martinez for a lot of rounds, but couldn’t lay an effective glove on GGG.Posted May 31, 2014 2:26 am
Uk box fan
Is like to see groves win, because I like to see the new gen come thru, in all weight classes. Nothing against Froch: he has been a stoic warrior gotten the best out of himself. He’s gone as far as he can. I’m now looking for done new blood.Posted May 30, 2014 11:13 pm
Do you know how big Groves would be on the night against Golovkin?
8lbs even for someone like Golovkin is a big ask against Groves who’s really a 175lb man and especially at his age.Posted May 30, 2014 10:40 pm
UK fight fan
Yeah groves should definitely pace himself better and box instead of brawling but I disagree about who looked worse after the fight. Yeah groves had a couple of black eyes but he marks up easier coz of his skin tone but froch eyes nose and jaw were a right mess and who seemed more concussed in their post fight interviews , I know who was feeling more worse for wear after that first fight and it wasn’t GG. Froch is a hard man no doubt with a solid chin and big heart but groves has genuine one punch power, speed and timing, also he can hurt froch that’s fact. Does that mean this time he can ko froch? We have to wait and see but I believe so.Posted May 30, 2014 8:51 pm
yet with all that. with groves flinging and landing. he ends up eating tons of shots and starts getting rubbed out in the ninth. 3 and a half rounds to go and he looked like he’d been through hell and back and was beginning to get blasted out. froch didn’t look the worst for wear as groves didPosted May 30, 2014 8:36 pm
UK fight fan
Tinker bell agreed about the singing, I personally would rather be watching the action then singing as you don’t want to miss anything but if every person there was sitting in silence it would be a pretty dull atmosphere. Id say most people there watching will be either drunk or football fans as well as boxing fans. Lets not forget froch himself is a big Nottingham Forest fan. British fans are more rowdy by nature it’s just the culture here. I’m not a fan of it myself but that’s how it is, drinking, sports events. Getting loud and shouty. D don’t worry I’m not wasting my money as I’m confident groves will deliver. If groves “stinks” so much why did he nearly ko froch in round 1 and rock him many times after that? I’ve followed froch many years as I’ve said before and I’ve never seen froch hurt the way he was against groves, he took a battering! So groves can’t be that bad as froch is a 4 time world champion and took on all the top fighters , yet groves as bad as he is according to you kd in the first and rocked him consistently ?! Yeah ok. Talking stops soon and we’ll all know for sure. Hope you all enjoy the fight. I can’t wait!Posted May 30, 2014 8:18 pm
How brutal could this be on Froch? Groves caught him very early when Froch walked into a perfect punch. You can’t ask for a better opportunity to put somebody away if they’re that wide open right?
Froch kept walking in. Groves kept hitting him and getting hit with return fire. What’s going to change in the rematch? Froch didn’t look badly beaten up. Groves looked like he was mugged in the parking lot.
There was still 10 and a half minutes to go when Froch started smashing Groves’ mug in. He was on George like Fatty Arbuckle on a pork chop.Posted May 30, 2014 8:14 pm
“We then can even have Groves vs GGG”
GGG vs GG? … not a chance in hell. Gennady would plant this green kid in the first.Posted May 30, 2014 7:59 pm
uk fight fan, “groves has got his number and carl is in for a tough night indeed! I’ve placed my money on groves”
why are you throwing your money away? why?
look here. froch may be really old and slow. his joints may creek. he may be wide open with an awful style like groves says. but groves is worse than froch. groves stinks
the suck faced petunia is going out. then it’s off to the hospital with the poncePosted May 30, 2014 7:51 pm
Football fans really are the scum of the earth.Posted May 30, 2014 7:43 pm
Froch gets retired tomorrow!Posted May 30, 2014 6:48 pm
If the fight was at 175 I would put good money on Froch . I feel that he has been cutting weight and fighting at 168 for too long now . It’s similar to how Hopkins got a new lease of life once he left 160 .
If Groves fights smart I think he can out point Froch .
Looking forward to the fight , hard to beat a good UK fight for atmosphere.Posted May 30, 2014 5:52 pm
listen to the weigh in,full up with retard soccer idiots.Posted May 30, 2014 3:31 pm
I’m sorry. Singing doesn’t belong at boxing. It doesn’t fit or work. It is something to do at soccer where there are long periods of lull. Or at Xmas time. Or around a piano when the TV is on the blink. But not at boxing. How can you watch closely and sing?
UK fight fan
Lol what you want a medal for being the worlds best boxing fan or something dmx?! Coz you followed a few boxers from their debut and if a fan doesn’t do that according to you he is a fair weather fan. You don’t have to be a complete fan boy to support a boxer lol but at the same time I do understand the point about people jumping on the bandwagons etc and some people are just there being drunk idiots and yeah the crowds sing but you find me a better atmosphere at a boxing event outside the UK. I think it is a close fight on sat and with boxing anything can happen but I still think carl gonna take a bit of a battering and get stopped. If I’m wrong ill be back here to read your gloating messages lol. As long as both fighters are healthy at the end of it all that’s the main thing.Posted May 30, 2014 1:49 pm
Chunky KO’s Groves in the 5th – unfinished business.Posted May 30, 2014 1:40 pm
DMX….” Two bob London football team”
froch again only quicker.Posted May 30, 2014 1:03 pm
lol.footballers today are a bunch of prima donnas,stick to boxing.Posted May 30, 2014 12:20 pm
UK fight fan
Yes rich I did put my money on groves first time and that idiot Howard foster stopped the fight early. As for you dmx no one is jumping on bandwagons here. I’m a British fight fan , I’ve followed froch for many years and enjoyed plenty of his fights, always in exciting fights and I’ve got a lot of respect for him as a fighter. I’ve also followed groves career and I’ve seen both fight live so no “two bob sports fans” here either. I backed groves before the first fight when everyone wrote him off but I knew he would give carl big problems and he did. I’m backing him this time as well, I think he’s a better boxer and his style gives froch problems, also froch has had a lot of wars and nobody really knows how much that last fight damaged his punch resistance. I’m entitled to my opinion. So again no swapping sides. People are allowed to follow more then one boxer jeez. You’re a very judgmental person aren’t you lol. As for football, I follow it as I like the game but I don’t support any club team. I will support the national team of course. So once again sorry no glory hunters here or beer swigging yob lol Anyway I’ll be back here on Sunday morning when George groves is the new super middleweight world champion ;)Posted May 30, 2014 12:15 pm
There will one day be a “Rocky” like movie on Ricky Lambert
Persevere . . . . And you will be rewardedPosted May 30, 2014 12:05 pm
are there still english men playing football for big teams in england.Posted May 30, 2014 11:59 am
I just don’t pick some thing up halfway that looks good
DMX, I’m totally in a agreement with you. A lot of these Johnnies are football fans and it is considered a sin to switch football allegiances, but boxing is a sport so full of hypocrisy that it seems anything goes and just like Bob and Don people want to come in with the champion and walk out with the champion.
I am and always have been a fan of Carl and always will be, win or lose. I have never followed a boxer just because he’s unbeaten and certainly won’t ditch him if he loses.
Carl looks on the money at the weigh in, so there will be no excuses if Groves wins, I still won’t like him, I still don’t like JDG, but that will be the next big domestic showdown around Bonfire Night!Posted May 30, 2014 11:28 am
Cannot believe the “Johnny come lately” British fight fans who just switch or suddenly start supporting a fighter after one fight
It took me years of watching fight after fight of favourite fighters of mine, right from early days through to domestic and finally / hopefully a World title shot
No way do I change sides, no way do I jump on a band waggon
To disrespect a accomplished Champion for some gobsh!te upstart is a indication of just lost people
Christ Help UsPosted May 30, 2014 11:23 am
Froch looks well up for it….Posted May 30, 2014 11:22 am
Posted May 30, 2014 7:57 am
read the full post Anonymous, you tool and you may just comprehend why I’ve had nightmares over tomorrow night!Posted May 30, 2014 11:11 am
CARL COBRA FROCH looks in the shape of his life on the scales. He must have trained like a demon for this rematch. Groves looks a little spooked!Posted May 30, 2014 11:09 am
Did you place your money on Groves the first time aroundPosted May 30, 2014 11:04 am
UK fight fan
All the people writing groves off are stupid. Mark my words froch is getting sparked tomorrow night!! Yes he is tough yes he has a world class chin and yes he has never been ko’d before but groves has got his number and carl is in for a tough night indeed! I’ve placed my money on groves.Posted May 30, 2014 9:29 am
George Groves gonna get “Tango’d” by a big right handPosted May 30, 2014 9:17 am
Yeah I’m rooting for frochs girl to go the distance several times in quick succession rising to a crescendo.
Yeah this English lasses look nice not like those American bush pigs.Posted May 30, 2014 7:45 am
Your right …..Groves is just trying to leap frog over Froch to get named upPosted May 30, 2014 2:34 am
Anonymous is my popa
even in now when as we all no froch is winding down,that clown cant beat him,You brits dont get sucked in groves is trying to sneek in to the big time groves is a b class brit level fighter,froch has respect on the ciruit,groves is a prikPosted May 29, 2014 6:24 pm
You will have to be a bit more special than Groves to take Froch…Posted May 29, 2014 4:27 pm
anonymous smokes the Groves salami.groves is a nerdPosted May 29, 2014 2:47 pm
Expect to see the canvas covered with ginger roadkillPosted May 29, 2014 1:59 pm
G R O V E SPosted May 29, 2014 11:58 am
Froch doesn’t look or sound right, Groves will stop him, I am utterly convinced.Posted May 29, 2014 8:30 am
I expect a good fight between 2 highly motivated fighters. And this time I feel a KO on its way. Either Groves if it happens before round 6, or Froch latter. Good action to come.
Froch didn’t give Groves the rematch, Groves had to force his hand. So it is understandable Groves isn’t going to just give Froch a rematch. Froch said he would retire if beat, then, in the same breathe says Groves wont give him the rematch. Clutching at straws. Froch can’t beat Groves with a neutral ref. Froch will lose rounds from fouls alone in this fight. Expect at least a few 10-8 rounds due to fouling, i.e desperation.Posted May 29, 2014 7:48 am
how carl “the marty feldman of boxing” froch can call himself world champion after being severely beaten by a bum like soggy is beyond mePosted May 29, 2014 7:26 am
Froch’s training camp has been at Alkali Lake,where he has had a fresh infusion of Adamantium.Groves is going get a beating Saturday,and BEARS,i second turbo’s recommendation- Froch -Pascal was the Cobra’s coming out party,it was a corkerPosted May 29, 2014 6:46 am
Interesting that Groves,who has insisted on this rematch,has refused to sign up for a 3rd fight if he wins this one,sheer class,i truly hope Froch stomps his ass,prima Donna is an understatement for The Ginger hippocritePosted May 29, 2014 6:36 am
Everyone seems to think Froch will win, even the pros. This will make it sweeter laughing at them in the pub when Groves wins. Keep banking on Froch winning soley on an assumed fitness superiority. Don’t hide from this forum afterwards, be humble in defeat.Posted May 29, 2014 5:38 am
I hope Groves win, so that we can have Ward versus someone else instead of another re-run should Froch win. Plus we need new blood in the sport of boxing. If Groves win we then can even have Groves vs GGG. Since we all know GGG has no comp at 160lbs plus he will never face Ward at 168lbs. He knows his limits.Posted May 29, 2014 5:24 am
*oh and pale skin.Posted May 29, 2014 4:06 am
Yeah Groves was visibaly rattled at the Gloves are Off, that’s when he actually realised that he hadn’t got under Froch’s skin and it bothered him, its hard to hide a red face when you have ginger hair, no offence intended to ginger haired folks.Posted May 29, 2014 4:05 am
I see Sky have upped the price a couple of £ for this, In fairness to Groves I think this will be his 3rd ppv fight in 20 pro fights, Degale, Froch 1 and this, that’s pretty good going. I think he’ll try to stop Froch early before he starts to bust up, Froch just needs to keep a bit cooler and stalk him behind a better defence,close the distance and strike with heavy handed combo’s on the inside where Grove’s cant fight to his skillset,rough him up son,rough him up.Posted May 29, 2014 3:59 am
frochs woman is pretty dude. and the ring girls in froch vs groves! uk gals lookin GOOD!!!Posted May 29, 2014 3:03 am
dude! groves FAILED the gloves off/ face off!!! WHOA!!Posted May 29, 2014 2:48 am
this fight is bigger than martinez vs cotto for me.Posted May 29, 2014 2:25 am
I loved watching the Mike McCallum-Herol Graham fight in England. Graham ran, held, wrestled, threw McCallum down, hit on the break. He even reached around the referee to hit McCallum on the break a couple times.
The English referee finally got disgusted enough to take a point from Graham after 30 warnings. McCallum won easily, but he was biting his lip and looking down before the decision was announced. You never never know in Boxing. You just pray something outrageous won’t happen.Posted May 29, 2014 2:07 am
even in the 6th froch comes back and wins the last minute. just a good fight here. its always a good’un when frochs involved.Posted May 29, 2014 1:46 am
the uk announcers from sky are really hugging groves nuts and almost disrespecting froch. through 3 their doing poor at callingthis. i dont know if one of these guys is scottish or irish but he is nuthuggin groves hardPosted May 29, 2014 1:34 am
to be fair froch hit after the ref said break but it was not blatant and dirtyPosted May 29, 2014 1:28 am
re watching froch vs groves now. groves hit froch after the bell round onePosted May 29, 2014 1:25 am
it was awesome when they did the uk equivalent to face off and froch pulled his a$$ down in retaliation. REALLY good build up here. trilogy if froch loosesPosted May 29, 2014 1:19 am
TURBO-HAMSTER~ I will have to check froch vs pascal for sure dude! I actually never seen that bout. It is cool they have a gentleman’s agreement to do it again at light heavy. I need to to go back and focus on all frochs bouts. I like the guy. A lot of times he wins like rocky or arturo gatti and he is a real warrior like those guys.
Thanks for mentioning that TURBOPosted May 29, 2014 1:17 am
Groves u made me a believer . I gave u no chance and in the 1st round u rocked him hard boy! But, if u lose, and I ever c u. I swear , I’m gonna cross the road, call u a rude word and run off.Posted May 29, 2014 12:36 am
Who are these to fellas? Unknowns to most! Would not waste my time with them!!!Posted May 28, 2014 11:33 pm
Ann Marie – Canada
I think boxing is too violent and dangerous. I don’t see why they can’t pretend to hit each other and the one with the nicest style wins the game.Posted May 28, 2014 11:19 pm
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groves by wide ud or froch by brutal koPosted May 28, 2014 10:34 pm
sean p h
Get him froch!Posted May 28, 2014 10:32 pm
have to miss, but saw the first one on Wealth.Posted May 28, 2014 8:27 pm
too bad it is on crap hbo.Posted May 28, 2014 8:26 pm
at least it will be better than another wlad sleeper.Posted May 28, 2014 8:13 pm
Froch by Mid-late stoppage, Groves has had his day, and the rematch will put the record straight once and for all.
Actually hoping Froch has stored all his anger into an all out attack and does a ‘Bute’ number on Groves.Posted May 28, 2014 7:31 pm
Taking Froch by stoppage. I think he underestimated Groves because of the previous sparring sessions they had and Froch claimed he handled him in those sessions. I think that gave him a false sense of entitlement. Froch by stoppage around the 9th or 10th rounds.Posted May 28, 2014 7:24 pm
My perdition is groves by ko , I backed him in the first fight and lost my money and I fully expect to get it back with interest , he’s to fast a more superior boxer and has the power to ko froch in a single shot , a very dangerous night for frochPosted May 28, 2014 6:38 pm
What the hell has Calzaghe got to do with Froch and Groves?
A Groves victory will put the final nail in the Froch/Calzaghe argument. In the same year Joe enters the boxing Hall Of Fame, Carl loses to Groves. Calzaghe will b doing back flips on Saturday night if the Cobra loses.Posted May 28, 2014 5:24 pm
Groves stops Froch early by KO.Posted May 28, 2014 4:41 pm
“(I’ve had nightmares about this)”
I’ve heard it all now. LMFAO!!!Posted May 28, 2014 4:37 pm
Turbo-Hamster laughing at the cane toads
BEARS, have a watch of Froch-Pascal, that was a good hard war, and both guys became good friends afterwards.
They have a handshake deal to do it again at LHW.Posted May 28, 2014 4:33 pm
Froch has a longer reach than Groves, 3 inches in fact,so this time around I’d like to see him use it…When Carl wants to he is a good boxer..I would like to see him jab his way into range and throw big punches with accuracy…..not like last time he was well off…did better to the body though…Groves is a screamer and I expect him to bottle it again….Posted May 28, 2014 3:59 pm
what froch did to bute was amazing. ruined the dude. i should watch classic froch tape tonight in honor of the warrior froch. how can u not like froch?Posted May 28, 2014 3:35 pm
Go Froch!Posted May 28, 2014 3:27 pm
froch again.Posted May 28, 2014 2:46 pm
A great fight. Two great fights, actually. I’m really looking forward to this.Posted May 28, 2014 2:21 pm
WHEN FROCH has retired and the new breed are here… Perhaps 10 years from now, we will all sit down and read a thread on ESB that will say FROCH WAS A BEAST…
We won’t appreciate him until long after he’s retired and people will say, they don’t make them as tough as Carl anymore, nor as brave!
Carl would have been at home with all those tough fighters in the 30s, 40s and 50s who seemed to be impervious to punishment and just kept coming!
Boxing has never been a sprint…It’s always about getting yo that destination, no matter even if you’re down 9 rounds to 1… If you can finish like an express train you can overhaul almost any lead if you can close the show.
It is going to be brutal!Posted May 28, 2014 2:15 pm
KOrnerman….Absolutely correct… I was just detailing his memorable world title fights, that were all memorable… People forget he had to travel by car for the best part of 18 hours for the first Kessler fight,which was on-off and then on again, because of the Icelandic Volcanic Ash cloud debacle that grounded most planes for over a week. The worst preparation going into the lions den in Denmark, just a couple days before the fight.
Kessler vs FROCH I was my Fight Of The Year (not Khan vs Maidana)… It was pure caveman stuff… The only other fight (I think it was same year?) to rival it for Caveman/Rocky action was HUCK vs Afolabi II, especially the last round!!! Unbekievable stuff!
FROCH has literally come back from being out on (totally gone) on a few occasions! I think he has Polish blood in him and those Poles are as tough as they come!Posted May 28, 2014 2:09 pm
Cmon Cobra Knock him Spark out, Groves is probably better in every department exept ONE, he’s not made out of as tough a stuff as Froch and starts busting up around the later rounds, that’s when the Cobra goes to work for the stoppage.Posted May 28, 2014 2:08 pm
TJ dont froget Ward, Abraham , Glen Johson, Eamon Magee, Robin Reid and so on, all current/ former world champs, The Cobras legacy is intact by way of fighting the best there is to fight in the division.Posted May 28, 2014 2:02 pm
Id say Groves is a bit rattled because unlike last time he hasnt managed to get under the Cobras skin.Posted May 28, 2014 1:59 pm
I’M A MASSIVE FROCH fan. He’s been great for boxing and never ducked a challenge, travelling to USA and Denmark to defend and now he’s going into Groves’ own backyard with 80,000 Chelsea fans behind him!
I would love FROCH to win and then bow out in Vegas… I’d make the trip out there again to see his swan song. I used to be a big fan of St George, but realised his arrogance and pathetic attempts at trying to appear clever are like his IQ – non existent!
were all barnstormer, nobbins wars and bouts with Abraham and Ward not bad either.
FROCH and Carl Thompson are my all-time favourite British boxers to watch…. #VFM fighters…..Value For Money!Posted May 28, 2014 1:56 pm
gumpy stumpy groves will see what the canvas taste like.Posted May 28, 2014 1:54 pm
Carl the Gardner snake froch by ko.Posted May 28, 2014 1:50 pm
Groves is another arrogant, disrespectful ponce like Paulie Malignaggi, only he can punch harder and takes a punch a little better. He’s not nearly as good as he thinks he is… I’d like to see him in with a good boxer because he’d never make the final bell.Posted May 28, 2014 1:37 pm
i meant to type “LETS GO TEAM CARL THE COBRA FROCH!!!”” below
An AMERICAN HERE rooting for FROCH!!!!!Posted May 28, 2014 1:17 pm
Something is different this time about froch … Last time he looked very nervous and agitated and that definitely played into groves’ favor, I thought groves would win the rematch but after seeing the recent interviews at ringside…Christ, groves knows his mental games ain’t working and he’s woken froch up…therefore I predict froch to take groves out within4Posted May 28, 2014 1:10 pm
“WAR FROCH TKO 10″Posted May 28, 2014 1:09 pm
Froch by TKOPosted May 28, 2014 12:24 pm
groves all day!Posted May 28, 2014 12:12 pm
Good fight. I’m rooting for Froch. Froch always has been himself. a warrior with one of the best beards i ever seen. maybe he has a little beard of chuck norris in there.
Froch should be able to make some adjustments and not get hurt so early. He also started landing heavy bombs early last time out.
Froch has seen a ton of action and he has always had a very pleasing style. I hope he does some tricks, tactics, and techniques he can employ on certain moves of groves or on groves style.
I’m rooting Froch in this one for sure!! Not interested in seeing froch in with ward again. if anything groves can fight ward.
Lets to team carl THE COBRA froch!!! land those F-BOMBS!!!!
Also, Froch won that first fight all day. groves was hurt and brain scrambled. not a terrible callPosted May 28, 2014 11:58 am