marquez knows, memo knows,nacho knows why marquez should not grant pacquiao the fifth fight, even with the new found fountain of youth that chemist memo introduce to him,he took worst beatings before he connect with the hail mary shot. Marquez will get exposed with strict drug testing like VADA testing,he will look very old coming to that fight and they know its going to be a pay back time. What is their explanation on acne all over his body during weigh in against alvarado,he looks like franquenstein courtesy of memo,5th fight means VADA testing and they know they can’t win the fight without memo’s power pellets. If marquez really believes he won all of their fights then he can do it over and over again with big payday and legacy of 5th division his chasing.Posted June 23, 2014 10:00 am
Packy fan reasoning: “Packy accepts his loss to Marquez and Marquez cried about his losses to Packy.”. Packy HAD NO CHOICE!! What is he suppose to say, ” I knocked Marquez out!”. You Packy fans are funny.Posted May 30, 2014 5:01 pm
la bamba let me return the question. why does pacquiao no longer have any ko in his record after the ped allegation? why does his power diminished and couldn’t even ko a punching bag in rios after ariza leaves his camp? won’t even go further the juice ariza is giving him as suggested by roach.
My simple answer is that as we grow older our strength diminish! Is that simple enough “odeerc”!!!
I have only one simple question: Why would Marquez hired Memo Heredia in the first place knowing he’s a well known supplier of undetectable PED’s??? Remember during his prime he cannot even knock Manny just even once!!! Now that he is old, he has the power and agility that he has not shown while he was in his prime. Law of physics states as we grow old our strength diminish…
Viva Mexico! – Most boxing analyst says that JMM should have won the 2nd and 3rd fight. Your reasoning that Pacquiao did not need to give him a rematch is absurd. He gave Marquez a rematch 3 years after their 3rd fight and that is when Marquez is already 40 years of age hoping to have a convincing victory but end up sleeping in the canvas.Posted May 29, 2014 3:02 pm
The Tijuana Urine Drinker needs to agree to Random Blood testing.. Everyone knows he’s on some dirty sh!t… fker drinks his own smelly dirty Urine to keep that good sh!t in his System..Posted May 29, 2014 2:48 pm
It’s no that he shouldn’t fight pacquaio but he should give the same opportunity gave him. Pacquaio didnt have to fight marquez after the third since its 2-0-1 but pacquaio still gave him the opportunity. Best way to end his career is to beat pacquiao again, probably knock him out and that will be the best retirement for him. Although im mexican i still give pacquaio credit for fighting marquez for the fourth time even though he didnt have to. Pacquaio fears no one and thats what made him great. But eversince marquez beat him he is only second to the legendary mexican warrior. Viva Marquez, Viva Mexico!Posted May 29, 2014 12:51 pm
QUE HONDA!! TUMBO & EL NEUTRAL CORNER??!! That’s a switch. LOL!! Well… as for Marquez vs Pac 5, they’ve always given us GREAT fights, and GREAT fights is what we want. Would I want to see them again? Well.. yeah, but it wouldn’t mean as much anymore. I believe that Marquez proved his greatness once more vs Alvarado. No, Alvarado isn’t an elite but still a tough out for anyone. Juan Manuel’s loss to Bradley didn’t put a dent on his HOF career & can retire today with his ATGness still in tact. Now as for the question NEUTRAL CORNER has been asking me, “Who wins the 5th fight?” hmmmm… If I was FORCED to bet my HOUSE, I’d probably say Pacquiao. Not because Pac is better, but basically because Marquez’ years have been catching up on him. BUT.. if it was $50 bet, I’d be willing to lose it on the AMAZING DINAMITA. If anyone has the proverbial “One great fight” left still in him, he’s the one! He’s been that kind of fighter. Paz y respeto!!Posted May 29, 2014 10:55 am
JMM needs Pac and Pac needs JMM. A great rivalry that has always been entertaining no matter the outcome or the opinions of keyboard critics. These fights have always been great for fans and I see no reason why a 5th would not be the same. With the I wont fight this guy and I wont fight that guy and ego aplenty happening in boxing its great to see such a good rivalry that sparks so much discussion. BRING IT ON!!!!Posted May 28, 2014 11:30 pm
@te tumbo Cool, but Manny Pac conceding his A-Side is much more complicated than that. Personally, if I were JMM I wouldn’t be overly interested in a 5th fight. Marquez is now in his 40s, really has nothing more to prove vs Pac or anybody. Time has taken a slight toll on him, noticeably more on him than on Manny Pac. I honestly feel that if Pac does win, it shouldn’t mean that much because he didn’t do it vs a prime JMM, hope I’m coming across okay. My uncle feels the same way, although he’s a JMM hugger to the max. lol Paz to you amigo.Posted May 28, 2014 11:13 pm
All the Pacmans haters have something in common with Marquez. They think the 4th fight erase the last three previous fight. In Marquez and Manny’s haters delusional world they all tthinks he won 4-0-0 so no need for another fight!Posted May 28, 2014 9:49 pm
that is some tap water in mexico.Posted May 28, 2014 9:18 pm
… “Marquez took something from Manny he is NOT getting back at 35″
There was NOTHING for him to take. Manny didn’t have a title because Ford and Ross robbed. Therefore the only thing Marquez earned was a title shot, which he couldn’t convert.
He couldn’t beat Bradley and Pacquiao COULD beat Bradley… Therefore, not only has Marquez still not won his 5th Divisional Championship from Pacquioao… Pacquiao has it back with more options for future fights than Marquez is seeing.Posted May 28, 2014 9:12 pm
Pacquiao* never came close to “boxing Marquez’s ears off”. not even the scorecard “wins” in his favor reflect that delusional recollection. it’s also not a “lucky” punch when the only time Marquez guranteed the KO, he executed the KO(!) in decisive fashion. the rivalry is OVER. Marquez has always been Greater. Viva Marquez.Posted May 28, 2014 9:06 pm
NEUTRAL, if Marquez doesn’t really care whether or not he faces Manny* a fifth time, what can Manny* do other than agree to all of Marquez’s conditions, or NOT. Marquez has already stated that he’s satisfied with “the desired result”. Pacquiao’s* got no choice but to concede his “A side” privileges or live with the enduring image of him planted butts-up and face-first into the ring canvas . . . Paz carnalito.Posted May 28, 2014 9:03 pm
If an NBA team wins 2 overtime games in a championship series… and also wins 2 more games by a total of 5 points… and so wins the 4 games by a total of 7 points… but they got beaten 3 times by a total of 48 points… they were badly outscored in the series but they’re still the NBA Champions… They’ll take that over scoring more points.
A 2-1-1 series only has one winner.
Pacquiao is still better than Marquez, and will prove it if they ever fight again. He’ll be faster and slicker than ever … and box rings around Marquez for an easy UD.Posted May 28, 2014 9:02 pm
Ramon Hidalgo, soy sicario en Agua Prieta, Sonora..Posted May 28, 2014 8:42 pm
JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ should perform SEPPUKU or HARA KIRI to regain his honor.Posted May 28, 2014 6:17 pm
Sredmond: MANNY PACQUIAO TOOK JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ’s COURAGE. Now he is just a shell of his former self and lost his dignity forever that he would not be getting back. PITIFUL COWARD.Posted May 28, 2014 6:12 pm
Sredmond – I have to agree and disagree. While the two (should have been three) previous victories weren’t clear as to who was the best, neither is landing a lucky punch while getting a boxing lesson and nearly about to get KO’d himself. If they never fought again, all you can really say is that unless JMM lands a lucky punch, he’s gonna lose. Marquez took 4 fights and over 1700 punches to land that one lucky punch while getting his ears boxed off. That in no way clarifies who is better. All it tells us is that JMM is still dangerous while hurt and you can’t take him for granted.Posted May 28, 2014 5:59 pm
That KO win against Pacman only shows one win for Marquez. Manny has two! Get your facts straight haters!Posted May 28, 2014 4:19 pm
Facts about the series 2-1-1 in favor of Pacman. Haters can slice it and dice it and giving Marquez the better fighter is just blind and in denial. 2-1-1 is in the books of facts!Posted May 28, 2014 4:15 pm
Marquez took something from Manny he is NOT getting back at 35 and that’s the reckless abandon and fire that made him so hard to deal with.. It’s a joke to trot out the two RAZOR thin PAC Man wins as proof of overall superiority FACT is that this rivalry demanded a clear win and Marquez not only obliged, he did it in the CLEAREST fashion that can be authored in boxing “A one punch KO” where he was celebrating on top of the ropes and Manny was being attended to by ring doctors…The enduring highlight of this 4 fight series is that KO, now and forever…Posted May 28, 2014 3:44 pm
No mas . . . please.Posted May 28, 2014 3:34 pm
At 2-1-1 it isn’t really clear who is better of the 2 boxers…
But it WOULD be clear if they fought again and ended up 3-1-1… If you can only win one of 5 fights, that’s really not very good. You’ve been beaten pretty decisively.
In a 5th fight Manny would dominate… so Marquez is afraid of a 5th clash.Posted May 28, 2014 3:26 pm
The 4th fight is a meaningless fight for these two great fighter. Even if we have another one it will still be meaningless. 2-1-1 is clear enough who is better than the two fighters.Posted May 28, 2014 1:47 pm
This is bs if they fight for a 5th time this is like a Friday 13th movies on and on I feel sorry for their fans getting the same old weak fights poor pac fans getting robbed again by pac and arum it’s funny thoPosted May 28, 2014 1:25 pm
If this 5th fight happens, unless PEDquaio KOes JMM in a more emphatic fashion than he suffered, there is no redemption for the Planking Pride of the Philippines. PEDquaio better get Ariza back to ‘replenish’ him with magic potion.Posted May 28, 2014 1:25 pm
@te tumbo Manny Pac and Roach probably do want Marquez more than the other way around, I guess I would too. I did a bit a amateur boxing and I hated to lose, couldn’t sleep for days when I did. But most everyone considers Manny Pac the A-Side in the negotiations, Marquez isn’t in the position to go overboard in making offers or demands. Not wanting to sound like Manny Pac huger but it’s the way I see really it. I’ve seen how my Tio gives you respeto and I will too. I love this sport more every day. Peace to you.Posted May 28, 2014 12:38 pm
The Legendary Manny “Pac Man” Pacquiao doesn’t need Ped Man Marquez. Boxing fans are in agreement that Ped Man Marquez is on Angel Hereida’s Special Nutritional Mix. We’ve all see the acne, Tantrums, Muscle bound body, lies he told to the media about not knowing anything about Angel Hereida (Acknowledged Performance Enhancing Drugs dealer to the United States Olympic track and Field Team). We saw how horrible he looked in Mexico as he should have lost to a Russian fighter just before he fought Manny Pacquiao for the 4th time. The writing is on the wall, and as he continues fighting, more signs come up. Fans aren’t dumb. An athlete does not elevate their strength, speed and power without some help, and I don’t care what workouts he’s doing. If it was so easy, every fighter and athlete would be getting better as they age. The ones that get better are Barry Bonds, Mark Mcguire, Lance Armstrong and others. Ped Man wants no part of VADA tesing, hmm….I wonder why that is. He also doesn’t want to take on Provodnikov, never asks for Mayweather. He will get pummeled by Porter, Bradley already beat him. Thurman will stop him. Ped Man Marquez is not marketable by himself. He has no options. He doesn’t deserve another fight with the Legendary Manny Pacquiao until he beats Bradley. Ped Man does not have much of a fan base and should not be allowed to fight and avoid who he wants. Manny Pacquiao on the other hand has the world of boxing on his shoulders. Manny has fought them all. He doesn’t run from fighters, he runs to them. He wants Floyd Mayweather. He will fight any of the new welterweights like Thurmaan, Porter, Provodnikov and even take on Martinez or Cotto for a 9th title. Manny Pacquiao fears no man. He’s a true fighter, and the best pure fighter of all time. He did not become great by running away from anyone. Manny Pacquiao has maybe 4-6 years left in boxing and he will fight them all. Ped Man Marquez has only one thing left to prove to all boxing fans. He has to tell us all what’s in the nutritional mix that Angel Hereida gives him. He also has to stop running away from VADA testing. Just look at Manny Pacquiao, he’s taking all the tests, and they are all coming back clean, which shows you why this is a pure fighter in the purest form. Trust me on this, Manny Pacquiao has always been a clean fighter. He is a man with character, respect, honor and most importantly, a man of God. Manny is the best!Posted May 28, 2014 12:03 pm
once i hear Manny* say, “any test, any place, any time. I’ve got nothing to hide” and agrees to Marquez’s conditions (after all, Napman* is the one desperate to remedy the image of him snoring facedown into the ring canvas) i’ll believe that he reeeeally wants to face Marquez a 5th time. at least as eager as Marquez was during his mission to corner and defeat Pacquiao*. otherwise, when he rejects Marquez’s offer to fight him in Mexico and responds by trying to dictate the purse-split in his favor(?!?), it’s obvious that Pacquiao* is NOT truly eager to risk being LEVELED by another fistful of “Dinamita” . . . the rivalry is OVER . . . Marquez is Greater . . . Viva Marquez!Posted May 28, 2014 11:26 am
“Both JMM and Pac say there’s gonna be a KO every time they fight” BullSh*t (again?!). it was team Pacquiao* who constantly threatened mayhem and decisive KO wins but ONLY Marquez delivered AFter being robbed by the judges in each of their previous bouts. also, there is no such thing as a “lucky punch” that Marquez (and Morales) has been consistently tagging and staggering Manny* in each of their previous bouts. Pacquiao* is one-dimensional and predictable. you devise a fight-plan based on any one of his performances v. Marquez (or Morales) and you can’t avoid landing the right-hand IF you dare challenge Manny* on the inside, which Marquez consistently and fearlessly does. in fact, Marquez owns the inside v. Pacquiao* whose one-and-only lethal weapon is his lethal but predictable and lunging power-Left. Face It: Marquez wrote and closed the book on Napman*. the rest has been little more than the epilogue to Pacquiao’s* suspect career.Posted May 28, 2014 11:21 am
Pac would/could either score a knockout or, due to his punishing accumulative punching power, could stop his opponents as well. He’s come a long way from being the one dimensional straight forward fighter that he once was. I admired JMM in my youth, my uncle is a die-hard JMM fan. He has contributed various articles to ESB and has a large collection of JMM fights. He used to show them to of us in the gym. We virtually had to study them, he’d even make us copies on DVD or VHS to take home. I was convinced of JMM’s awesome talent but once I saw the Pac manhandle Barrera, I became an instant fan to this very day.Posted May 28, 2014 10:56 am
“odeerc – Pac was never a great KO artist. He wasn’t KOing everyone even before he went up to WW.” – I beg to disagree he is 45 wins (35 KO) before his first fight in WW against DLH with 6 of his UD win in light flyweight. besides Rios is coming up in weight with the last fight coming from LW.Posted May 28, 2014 10:02 am
@Mbuyiseli You said:”Marquez should insist on the larger purse since last time they gave him peanuts. Demand a fight in Mexico and the larger purse. Marquez had more followers than Pacquaio.”
Mbuyiseli, are you serious? You surely don’t know to much about this sport. No matter how you twist things the truth is that PACMAN is the A-SIDE! JMM can negotiate some but it’s Pac that has the leverage and clout. Sorry but you’ve got a long way to go before the more grounded and knowledgeable of this site can take you serious.Posted May 28, 2014 9:01 am
odeerc – Pac was never a great KO artist. He wasn’t KOing everyone even before he went up to WW. He only KO’d 3 WW’s since going up to the division, and it was only because those fighters thought he would be an easy win, so they came straight at him, which is playing right into his style. Now that they take him seriously, nobody is coming straight at him anymore making the KO’s harder to get. Learn to think for yourself and stop repeating every apologetic you hear speaking against Pac. It only makes you look like what you obviously are, a very casual fan who doesn’t know the sport.Posted May 28, 2014 8:29 am
Mbuyiseli – Run out of comp after Prov and Alverado? He can pull 1 million ppv against JMM, and he can go after Thurman and Porter for the other two belts, or did you forget? Besides, that’s what Floyd and Pac should be trying to do anyway, become undisputed champ. Like I said, you’re a casual fan, and don’t really know the sport, just know how to hug nuts. smhPosted May 28, 2014 8:09 am
Mbuyiseli – Both JMM and Pac say there’s gonna be a KO every time they fight. That’s what most fighters do. How many fighters, especially in rematches say “You know I’m not coming to KO this guy, I’m trying to win this one by UD”? LMAO!! You are obviously one of those casual fans that fall for the hype. Like those silly enough to think Ali really predicted the round he would KO opponents in, but when you recap enough interviews before the fight, you realize Ali predicted 6 different rounds he would KO the guy in. Plus there are only two ways to win, decision or KO. You have a 50 percent chance of being correct. Hell JMM said the same thing about the 3rd fight and lost!! LOL! And yes, Pac did win the 3rd fight. Though it only carries so much weight because of the scoring system, Pac’s had better stats for the fight on paper. You act like JMM got robbed. lol! If it was that clear of a win for him, the stats would show that like Floyd’s clear wins have him with clearly better stats. Now Bradley got a gift over Pac, and Pac had better stats. You can’t say that for JMM vs Pac 3. It’s just your bias for your boyfriend Floyd that makes you want Pac to go down so bad that it blinds you from the truth. Get off Floyd’s sac, and watch what actually happening in the ring rather than imagining what you want to happen. smhPosted May 28, 2014 8:05 am
look at marquez face after the 4th fight… If he didnt get that lucky punch, I think he will suffer too much. His nose bones are already broke.
Havoc & Blaze tripping over one another defending Pacquaio. Well let’s see Pacquaio who always went life and death with JMM. Got an early Christmas present in the 3rd fight. Then your nemesis says he will KYTFO so that the judges won’t screw him. Then he does exactly that, puts you in a coma for 5 minutes whilst your wife is crying thinking you ain’t coming outta the coma. I would rather be the guy who iced the 8 time weight division champ. By the way if you think Manny won the 3rd instalment then you are blind, you also think Bradley beat Manny in their 1st fight.Posted May 28, 2014 5:54 am
Marquez should insist on the larger purse since last time they gave him peanuts. Demand a fight in Mexico and the larger purse. Marquez had more followers than Pacquaio. Then he put Manny to sleep. I felt sorry when Manny iced Hatton, then JMM put Pacquiao in a coma. Now I feel sorrier for Manny. Hatton was on drugs anyway, can’t feel sorry for him. Marquez make some demands and stick to them no matter what. Manny has Alvarado and Provodnikov to fight then he is out of comp, plus nobody wants to see Alvarado face Manny.Posted May 28, 2014 5:44 am
Hildago you clown T.I. skinny ass couldn’t do crap to Floyd. Have you seen how skinny and tiny this dude is? Mayweather would kill this bloke. Had Floyd beat his behind you would still find fault with that. I thought this was a boxing site not TMZ eulogy site. Every Pacquaio headline turns into a Floyd Mayweather bashing diatribe.Posted May 28, 2014 5:33 am
Rios is a punching bag with great chin! Just like Margarito. They can withstand the pain even though they have a broken face. A lot of Pacmans previous opponents said that they can take Manny’s best shots but he punches in bunches which accumulate overtime. Imagine a big rock will not break so easily if you hit it once with a hammer but if you hit it 100 times it will surely break. Some fighter is tougher than others.Posted May 28, 2014 3:09 am
la bamba let me return the question. why does pacquiao no longer have any ko in his record after the ped allegation? why does his power diminished and couldn’t even ko a punching bag in rios after ariza leaves his camp? won’t even go further the juice ariza is giving him as suggested by roach.Posted May 28, 2014 2:53 am
I have only one simple question: Why would Marquez hired Memo Heredia in the first place knowing he’s a well known supplier of undetectable PED’s??? Remember during his prime he cannot even knock Manny just even once!!! Now that he is old, he has the power and agility that he has not shown while he was in his prime. Law of physics states as we grow old our strength diminish…Posted May 28, 2014 2:33 am
marquez won’t fight #5. pacman would box him to death.
pac is boxing better now than ever. he has 21 years of experience boxing, and is 5 years younger than jmm. pac’s concentrating on the craft now. not trying to beat the shlt out of people. that makes him so much tougher to beat.Posted May 28, 2014 2:17 am
Sorry sredda when manny wins whether it be by decision even a close one, manny will lead 3-1-1 no one cares manny got KOd that will be the Marquez lucky punch manny still will lead 3-1-1 you and tumbo don’t commit suicide nowPosted May 28, 2014 1:51 am
This article is dumb its clear that this time jmm clearly won but to say there s no point in a fifth fight of course there is manny is a good fighter is very liked by the fans and theyd like to see him get reveng on that terrible lossPosted May 28, 2014 1:37 am
Sredmond…, Wladimir wasn’t laid to waste you moron… If that happens 3 times your career is over. Wlad was on his feet and clear headed against Puritty. He was on his feet and ready to resume against Sanders. He was a bit panicked because he had never been in that situation previously.. The referee stopped it.. Wladimir won all the previous rounds by wide margins and was hit after the bell versus Brewster.. Referee Byrd didn’t count because of the late hit…
Wladimir claims he was drugged in Brewster 1. His blood work and urine samples went missing and gamblers made millions on late betting on Brewster… Wladimir won the rematch easily.
Anyway, all those losses happened over 10 years ago… 12 years of working with Emmanuel Steward and Jonathon Banks has made Wladimir a different fighter.
You have to judge a fighter at his peak … and Wladimir didn’t hit his stride until he was with Steward 5 years.. For the last 6 years he’s been great and getting better.. He’s possibly not at his peak physically at 38, but still making gains technically … and from physical conditioning and strength standpoints, Wladimir says he’s better than ever.
Sanders was 39-2 after beating Wladimir… That’s as good as Marquez was at that point… Marquez lost to guys who were unknown and so did Pacquiao, who has 3 KO losses as well, 2 to guys you never heard of.
It’s not where you were 10 years ago… It’s where you’re at now.Posted May 28, 2014 12:00 am
Havoc – You too! Hell, you aren’t telling these guys anything they don’t already know. They simply don’t want the 5th fight to happen, which it likely will anyway. And when it does, they’ll just have another excuse. Truth is that they aren’t even defending JMM, they are defending Floyd. JMM is the only common opponent between them that Floyd looked better fighting. If Pac KO’d him or beats JMM in any decisive way, that will be taken away from them. It would also put more demand on a Pac vs Floyd fight, especially since the ppv numbers will be higher than Floyd’s last fight. They really don’t want that any more than Floyd does. No matter how confident they try to come off, the truth is that they have questions in their minds about that fight. If they didn’t, they’d be demanding the Floyd vs Pac fight more than anyone else with the confidence that Floyd would prove them right. But for some reason, they say any everything that you’d expect a person who doesn’t want that fight to happen say. Hmmmm… LOL! Fact is that there will likely be a 5th fight, and they have no say so about it. And even if it doesn’t, JMM has to redeem himself with Tim who Pac just beat. So JMM is still behind the 8-ball whether or not the fight happens.Posted May 27, 2014 10:53 pm
Blaze you are alright!Posted May 27, 2014 10:42 pm
The only reason JMM wanted a rematch is because he had lost and had nothing to lose taking a rematch. Now that he’s finally won one, he has something to lose, and as a result IMMEDIATELY rejected the idea of a rematch. Anyone can take a fight when they have nothing to lose, but it takes a true warrior to take a risk. Manny did that 3 times, and has done it several times in the past. He’s one of the few warriors left in the sport.Posted May 27, 2014 10:38 pm
Sredmond let me educate your ignorant @ss regarding Juan Manuel Marquez.
Now if that is not blatant cowardice straight from the Mayweather book of Ducking, I don’t know what is.
Next time do some research so you don’t look like a fool that you already are, clown.Posted May 27, 2014 10:35 pm
Marquez was a cry baby when he lose to Bradley and wants a rematch because he was after the belt. Now Pacman beat Bradley and have the belt so if Marquez was not scared to fight manny again then he should fight him again and get the record breaking 5 division champion the only Mexican fighter to achieve this. Let’s go brave better than Manny Juan dinamita Marquez.Posted May 27, 2014 10:32 pm
Marquez is not scared. He is a cry baby! And cry baby doesn’t give rematch especially when he knows he got lucky.Posted May 27, 2014 10:27 pm
Wlad got laid waste to Tark!! 3x that’s why he has 3 TKO losses on his record and none of his opponents were HW Marquez equivalents, they were bums in a relative basis..Posted May 27, 2014 10:25 pm
Anyone saying “Marquez
“Roy Jones got drilled, Lewis got drilled, Wlad got drilled, Duran got drilled”
With Wladimir it was never a one punch finish… He absorbed some hard shots and getting up. Wlad could take it.
Lewis, Duran, and Jones did get drilled… Jones 2 fights in a row. “G’ night Roy!!!”
“Any excuses Roy?”Posted May 27, 2014 10:24 pm
Marquez is losing in points in all four fights and all rounds combine until he landed the lucky punch!Posted May 27, 2014 10:21 pm
Sredmond: Marquez should have than that devastating KO sooner. I mean after the fourth fight I would want to see him beat on points not on KO because the last three are on points.Posted May 27, 2014 10:19 pm
If JMM had actually learned how to beat Manny, it would have shown throughout the fight. JMM simply landed a hail mary, and that’s it. Had he learned to beat him, he wouldn’t have been outboxed so bad up until the KO. In 3 previous fights he didn’t get outboxed that bad, so getting beat up wouldn’t have been necessary for him to land that one shot, nor would he have immediately rejected the idea of a lucrative rematch after the fight. He would have looked forward to it. Let’s face it, he landed a lucky punch while losing.Posted May 27, 2014 10:15 pm
Manny needs to just box around Marquez. Counter puncher loses to a boxer. Just like Rigo vs. Donaire or Floyd vs. Marquez or Bradley vs Marquez. Just box and if Pac gets lucky then finish him with care. Easy fight for Pacman if they fight again.Posted May 27, 2014 10:14 pm
It’s sad when presumably grown men cannot accept a CLEAR result like a guy getting KOED by a straight right hand… Manny Pacquaio is NOT the first boxer that JMM stopped, in fact Marquez had knocked out more men than Manny has at this point.. Roy Jones got drilled, Lewis got drilled, Wlad got drilled, Duran got drilled and the list goes on, Manny is no differed he was in the ring with a skilled and dangerous fighter who knows his bad habits well and exploited them..Posted May 27, 2014 10:13 pm
SRedmond: Which is “superior” , oh you mean knocking out someone but being afraid of that dude you knocked out ??? You call that superior ??? Juan Manuel Marquez turned COWARD towards the guy he knocked out ???Posted May 27, 2014 10:10 pm
Marquez was not looking for a points win… which he never achieved in 3 tries… He had enough frustration with the judges to last 15 lifetimes … It was KO or bust.
Sometimes that’s the attitude you need to win.
But now that JMM finally learned how to beat Pacquiao… why not do it again and even the score??? To 2-2-1
He’s a lot stronger than Manny. Heredia does a beautiful job strength training.
And then they could go for a tie breaker 6th fight. Like the Heat vs Spurs.Posted May 27, 2014 10:06 pm
Yup, you need to get beat up and bloodied to get your devastating punch in to end the fight….it’s not a lucky punch it’s a well timed punch you just have to received tons of heavy bricks in your face to full it of.Posted May 27, 2014 10:03 pm
If you’re getting your ass handed to you and then land a Hail Mary shot that ends the fight, it doesn’t compare to a points win, period. JMM actually looked better in their previous fights. If they had been going back and forth in a close fight, it would be different, but that didn’t happen. JMM was getting outboxed. even in the 3rd when he scored the first knockdown on Pac he was losing that round just like he was losing the 6th round before his prayers were answered. I bet at least half the clowns on here trying to act like JMM proved he was better of the two in their last fight wouldn’t bet a penny on JMM if they have a 5th fight. They are simply here campaigning for what they want to be true. This is why boxing is where it is now. Fans are willing to campaign and posture rather than see fighters show and prove in the ring, because they may see something they don’t want to see. smhPosted May 27, 2014 9:40 pm
Happyboy: first Knock down is to let Manny knows Marquez is off the urine juice. The 2nd was a lucky punch.Posted May 27, 2014 9:17 pm
Sredmond: sure KO is better than any points. Last Three fights where manny win in a close desicion points and Marquez devastTing punch is nowhere to be found. I would have been more convince if Marquez won in a wide margin UD.Posted May 27, 2014 9:13 pm
Like I said Marquez can have that devastating, flattening, putting to sleep, lights out punch he lands from the 4th fight….that doesn’t prove that he beat Manny on the three previous fight. Like Bradley beat Marquez convincingly and Manny beat Bradley convincingly.Posted May 27, 2014 9:10 pm
Srdmond: manny is a humble guy and will accept the KO with out crying. Manny accepted that!Posted May 27, 2014 9:06 pm
Happyboy I agree there are other fights for Pacquiao, however, Floyd aside, which other name would generate a bigger ppv number than Marquez? Tell me. We talking dollar amounts here.Posted May 27, 2014 9:03 pm
Winning via Killer KO is SUPERIOR TO POINTS! Mannys 2 wins pale in comparison..Posted May 27, 2014 9:03 pm
Happyboy: sure! 2 lucky punches that never to be found from the last three previous fight. Pedqueze must have stop drinking his urine and realized it’s not good for his punching power.Posted May 27, 2014 9:02 pm
Reality is the only embarassing loss absorbed was by Manny Pacquaio, peeps wanna act like he was killing Marquez when Manny took the hardest KD’s of the fight!! Marquez had TWO 10-8 rounds! And ultimately flattened Pacquaio, this is about PAC trying to erase the memory of that KO for JMM this is about $$$ and a 5th title..Posted May 27, 2014 9:01 pm
First KO was to let him know what’s up, 2nd put him to sleep. JMM is no joke, ” Dinamita “Posted May 27, 2014 8:44 pm
8675309 the only loser is you … you piece worthless crap.Posted May 27, 2014 8:44 pm
Havoc – make that two ” lucky punches”Posted May 27, 2014 8:41 pm
86 – tis called advertising, relaxPosted May 27, 2014 8:39 pm
Marquez won the 4th fight convincingly on a lucky punch not on points. If you want to erase the three close fights, Marquez should have gone UD in a wide margin. No, he was getting beat up and landed a lucky punch. Let Marquez run with the KO and have the 4th fight but the series goes to Pacman 2-1-1.Posted May 27, 2014 8:38 pm
I’m as interested on the 5th fight as I am to PAC vs Floyd1.Posted May 27, 2014 8:37 pm
You have young Porter, Thurman, Maidana, Danny & Mikey Garcia, Lara, Alvarez, Provodnikov, Maravilla & GGG yet Arum is still selling fans 41year old JMM for the 5th time, JMM who lost to Bradley who in turn lost twice to Pacman. Arum is taking fans for idiots. Surely there are other fights available for PAC.Posted May 27, 2014 8:34 pm
@lol : Floyd is busy in a twitter war with rapper TI.Posted May 27, 2014 8:22 pm
A troll is using issues like gun control to HIJACK THIS THREAD…….Ja ja ja jaaaa, LOSER !!Posted May 27, 2014 8:18 pm
anyone know the update on manny and floyd.Posted May 27, 2014 8:11 pm
The NRA use fear to sell millions of their guns to clueless Americans who can’t see what they are doing. Jeez Americans are so dumb. The NRA and the second amendment are the curse of the USA and the NRA love it.Posted May 27, 2014 8:01 pm
Marquez has taken so many PEDS he’s now stronger than any human in history. Boxing is the most corrupt dirtiest sport in the world. Always has been, always will be.Posted May 27, 2014 7:56 pm
This is the most exciting division out there now in the sport of boxing and, aside form the old farts like Pacquio and Marquez, there are many GREAT fights out there, Mayweather, Khan Danny Garcia, Lara, Canelo, Porter, Trout, Broner, Maidana again, countless others … this is the division to watch and some fighter out there will be a very wealthy man after Mayweather retires… my choice will be that that fighter is going to be Canelo…. he’s so young and still so hungry… again, a great weight class to watch . Now, … this is what boxing is all about …Boxingdictinary.com “The Language of the Ring”Posted May 27, 2014 7:55 pm
these modern fighters today sure are strong.Posted May 27, 2014 7:50 pm
How many times can MarPeds get lucky both with the one punch KO and PEDS? Pac beat him but PEDS saved him.Posted May 27, 2014 7:46 pm
Peds or no peds, Marquez was getting his face re-arranged before he knocked out Paquiao. Peds is a non issue as far as Pacquiao is concerned, as long as he does not go for the KO (with help of course from the famous Angel “Memo” Heredia).
Let JMM load up with PEDs, as it wont help him this time.Posted May 27, 2014 7:40 pm
I agree with the argument completely. However. If Arum puts up a ridiculously large dollar amount, if I were Marquez, I’d take it. Why not? Which other opponent could bring the money that Pacquiao can? Marquez’s last fight where he was the main attraction was not even a ppv. He only has a few fights left and if I were him, I’d cash in. He can do what Barrera did – coasted in his last fights. Plus, he already knows how to handle Pacquiao, so he can minimize risk if he wanted to. Let’s get it done!Posted May 27, 2014 7:39 pm
No Mas!Posted May 27, 2014 7:26 pm
He doesn’t want the 6 million????.Posted May 27, 2014 7:06 pm
hidalgo. is mayweather now playing beach vollyball.Posted May 27, 2014 6:43 pm
….and meet Quackman, the ONLY man in the WORLD who denies taking a blood test for $40 MILLION! OMG THAT’S ABSURD! Where there’s smoke…….there’s mirrors! LOLPosted May 27, 2014 6:38 pm
@Blaze The truth is that JMM’s trainer Nacho Beristain and his co-promoter Fernando Beltran have openly stated that they are against JMM facing Pacman one more time. Most of all Mexico/Mex-America are dead against it as well. Could it be because highly probable Marquez defeat will end the “bragging rights” the Mexican fans obtained when JMM dropped that bomb on Pacman’s chin? But that was almost 2 years ago! Since then: After losing convincingly to Bradley, Marquez looked okay vs an easy to hit and possibly damaged Alvarado, but he didn’t nearly compare to Pac’s thrashing of Rios & Bradley, undeniably. In wouldn’t mind seeing them again or either one vs Ruslan. I’m won’t deny that I’m Pacman, a down to earth Pacman fan, but all three get my respect.Posted May 27, 2014 6:18 pm
Marquez test positive for urea…..Posted May 27, 2014 6:05 pm
The Legendary Manny “Pac Man” Pacquiao doesn’t need Ped Man Marquez. Boxing fans are in agreement that Ped Man Marquez is on Angel Hereida’s Special Nutritional Mix. We’ve all see the acne, Tantrums, Muscle bound body, lies he told to the media about not knowing anything about Angel Hereida (Acknowledged Performance Enhancing Drugs dealer to the United States Olympic track and Field Team). We saw how horrible he looked in Mexico as he should have lost to a Russian fighter just before he fought Manny Pacquiao for the 4th time. The writing is on the wall, and as he continues fighting, more signs come up. Fans aren’t dumb. An athlete does not elevate their strength, speed and power without some help, and I don’t care what workouts he’s doing. If it was so easy, every fighter and athlete would be getting better as they age. The ones that get better are Barry Bonds, Mark Mcguire, Lance Armstrong and others. Ped Man wants no part of VADA tesing, hmm….I wonder why that is. He also doesn’t want to take on Provodnikov, never asks for Mayweather. He will get pummeled by Porter, Bradley already beat him. Thurman will stop him. Ped Man Marquez is not marketable by himself. He has no options. He doesn’t deserve another fight with the Legendary Manny Pacquiao until he beats Bradley. Ped Man does not have much of a fan base and should not be allowed to fight and avoid who he wants. Manny Pacquiao on the other hand has the world of boxing on his shoulders. Manny has fought them all. He doesn’t run from fighters, he runs to them. He wants Floyd Mayweather. He will fight any of the new welterweights like Thurmaan, Porter, Provodnikov and even take on Martinez or Cotto for a 9th title. Manny Pacquiao fears no man. He’s a true fighter, and the best pure fighter of all time. He did not become great by running away from anyone. Manny Pacquiao has maybe 4-6 years left in boxing and he will fight them all. Ped Man Marquez has only one thing left to prove to all boxing fans. He has to tell us all what’s in the nutritional mix that Angel Hereida gives him. He also has to stop running away from VADA testing. Just look at Manny Pacquiao, he’s taking all the tests, and they are all coming back clean, which shows you why this is a pure fighter in the purest form. Trust me on this, Manny Pacquiao has always been a clean fighter. He is a man with character, respect, honor and most importantly, a man of God. Manny is the best!Posted May 27, 2014 6:01 pm
why did quackman’s camp get real quiet after JMM said sure, we’ll take the test as long as you do!?
……..anddddd that was the end of that discussion! LOLPosted May 27, 2014 5:54 pm
Marquez drinks his own pee…..Posted May 27, 2014 5:48 pm
Sure but this time I want some Zit tests.Posted May 27, 2014 4:45 pm
Can’t see why they won’t fight again. Too much $$$ not to.Posted May 27, 2014 4:21 pm
Maidana gave the fans what they wanted not Mayfailure
Avoid pacman and provonikovPosted May 27, 2014 4:20 pm
The Mad Scientist
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!Posted May 27, 2014 3:55 pm
Marquez is so juiced up it looks like his body is gonna explode. He’s taken more peds than all the ped takers in the history of ANY sport. LOLPosted May 27, 2014 3:52 pm
Marquez-Pacquiao V is valid. Why not? Mayweather doesn’t want to fight Mayweather! Anything bigger that this for November. These are that only three left Superstars in the welterweight division. But Money doesn’t want to make money with Pacquiao for a few years already. Even that knockout by Marquez against Pacquiao is not attractive to him to be an easy fight with Pacquiao. Let’s see, what happens?Posted May 27, 2014 2:56 pm
get a life.Posted May 27, 2014 2:47 pm
Im block is okay.Posted May 27, 2014 2:41 pm
i want to see them fight again. pac gave marquez his rematches, time to return the favour. its such a pity that pac got KOd in the last fight. his loss lends credence to the fools who think marquez is the better fighter, which he most certainly is notPosted May 27, 2014 2:20 pm
If I were marquez, I too would avoid a 5th fight with Pac at all costs. Marquez was on his way to being permanently damaged if not for that hail mary of a save. Like lightening, it only strikes once in a single place and that is the danger marquez will face, that hail mary will not be available, and worse, fat heads will never get over it.Posted May 27, 2014 1:55 pm
Ah Turdo…..The self appointed “boxing fan”…Although its pretty easy to see the two fighters he is obsessed with,there has never been a time on here were our true “boxing fan*” has acknowledge one thing about Pacq.But he is relentless in his hate for the Octuple champion…..Yes Turdo keep at it, one day it will eat you up……Posted May 27, 2014 1:35 pm
pac owns juan and he knows it. thats why he doesnt want it. pac is winning series so 1 ko win aint crap. juan needs another win against him to be the kingPosted May 27, 2014 1:01 pm
Pacquiao is clearly better. Marquez landed a magnificent punch to KO Manny in the 4th fight. However, assuming another lucky punch doesn’t land Pacquiao wins the rematch and clearly the series of fights. Tengo el gato los panelones. #KingKhan2014Posted May 27, 2014 12:52 pm
Dr. Long John
Pacman UDPosted May 27, 2014 12:26 pm
These guys are almost evenly matched when they fight each other. Pacquiao is much better than Marquez when fighting others. “Styles make Fights”, was never stronger than between Marquez and Pacquiao.Posted May 27, 2014 12:25 pm
If there is a fifth fight, I predict a Pac win by UD or stoppage. If Marquez wasn’t looking for another payday he would avoid pacman If he could.Posted May 27, 2014 12:23 pm
te tumbo, now you also suck the d!ck of MarPeds? While MarPeds drinks his pee you swallow his sp3rm?Posted May 27, 2014 12:13 pm
“Despite the knock down and favorable result for him, the story of the fight was that Marquez was losing and taking a battering at the same time” BullSh*t. there was only one round that Marquez convincingly lost, which not only featured a stomp-assisted KD for Manny* but also Marquez’s ability to once again foil Pacquiao’s* all-out offensive assault to close the show. too many fans are desperately impressed by the blood on Marquez’s face, which post-fight video revealed to be nothing more than a nick across the bridge of his nose. otherwise, Marquez looked virtually unmarked following the alleged “battering” he absorbed v. Pacquiao*. no amount of micro-scoring will erase the image of Napman* snoring into the ring-canvas while Marquez lumbered to the opposite corner to raise his fists in victory. the rivalry is OVER. Marquez is Greater for All Time. Viva Marquez!Posted May 27, 2014 11:41 am
Marquez is going to Macau this week to talk to Arum, He will listen to Arum offer, if the money is right and no VADA test, he will take the rematch,Posted May 27, 2014 11:34 am
Brazilian Boxing Fan
I want to see Pacquiao-Marquez V. I wish Pacquiao wins.Posted May 27, 2014 11:19 am