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Henry miller

I have a barnacle growing on my second toe. It has been thriving away there for 6 years. I vowed then to wait till the May PAC fight to conclude , after which I would undergo the delicate surgery. There was a delay. An excuse. Another followed by yet another. And six years later my barnacle is impressively large and mature, the surgery is still delayed and the fight has not been made. I bet with my partner which will happen first: barnacle removal , or speculation removal . My money is on the barnacle.

Posted May 21, 2014 10:41 am 


…..

Yeah you’ve lost me now. Not sure the relevance in speculating about which one of Mayweather and Pacquiao could make 135 when it’s obvious neither will ever fight at that weight again. A win for Marquez over Mayweather would’ve had far more significance than a title so there’s the incentive. A winner like Marquez would not waste time with ‘easy’ fights at welter to grow into the weight he wanted to test himself against the best and should be respected for it.

Posted May 21, 2014 7:50 am 


Auzbox

Your right it would be, but manny could fight at 135 and fight at 100 percent but could floyd. Hell no he couldn’t. I’m not convinced floyd struggles to keep the weight on when the Marquez fight he couldn’t get to 144. Why would floyd of fought Marquez when there was plenty of guys at 147 that didn’t need to have there first fight with more than 10 pounds gained

Posted May 21, 2014 5:51 am 


…..

Auzbox, are you mental? By your own reasoning then one fight at welter against Mayweather was not enough for Marquez to get used to the weight for Pacquiao fight although you’ve already stated previous it was. Mayweather isn’t a lot bigger than Pacquiao, he is generally the smaller guy in the ring almost every fight he is involved in. Certainly if Mayweather was to fight Pacquiao the weight difference would be far less than the difference in Mayweather’s last two fights.

Posted May 21, 2014 5:20 am 


Auzbox

Mayweather is a lot bigger than PAC yet he fights in the same weight division. 3 fights if you are an athlete is huge to get used to weight, shows your a watcher not a boxer

Posted May 21, 2014 5:04 am 


Auzbox

No you were talking about weight gain. He gained it to meet PAC for a title. Why fight mayweather other than money keeping in mind floyd made him fight heavy long before pac

Posted May 21, 2014 5:03 am 


…..

Auzbox, so Marquez only trains and prepares properly if there’s a title on the line?? Ridiculous. So when he fought Mayweather at the weight he was too small for the weight but 3 fights later when he fought Pacquiao he was suddenly a full blown welter? You’re grasping mate stop embarrassing yourself. Stop talking like Mayweather is huge for a welter because he isn’t. Usual rubbish from Pacquiao supporters rewriting the facts to enhance his achievements.

Posted May 21, 2014 2:33 am 


Auzbox

The dot guy said that Marquez gained weight to fight PAC when they are both similar size. I meant when he gained it for PAC it was to win pacs title two or three fights after floyd so he had been at the weight before. Floyd made him gain it for no reward, Marquez fought floyd as a fat lard that had no speed for a pay day. Mayweather knew he was going to be at his heavyist with nothing but concrete feet

Posted May 21, 2014 12:09 am 


What!???

Auzbox, what the hell did u say in ur last post!??? Reading is fundamental dude.

Posted May 20, 2014 11:46 pm 


D

mike tyson, “You know what would be cool?”

YES, if Floyd fought Pacquiao. They already have opponents in common

Posted May 20, 2014 10:37 pm 


Auzbox

Didn’t Marquez go up the weight for the third fight to fight for a title ….. . Floyds comeback fight he had to gain weight for nothing to earn but PAC try win a title. Isn’t that correct

Posted May 20, 2014 7:04 pm 


Mike Tyson

You know what would be coo,l if both fighter will not face each other, make it so they both have to face the same fighter. Two diffrents styles facing the same guy, so PAC would have to prove himselfand fight maidana next.and Floyd has to face Badley , Then we get a direct comparison between the same fighter and know who under performing.

Posted May 20, 2014 3:09 pm 


…..

Fair enough, your right Maidana has added another dimension to his style. I still think though the Pacquiao fighting at the moment seriously struggles against Maidana. Different story a few years ago though.

Posted May 20, 2014 2:23 pm 


Mike Tyson

I saying just that , rio is below maidana, he carry a ko punch, but maidana went into stage two he can box too so he setting up his ko punches jabbing and lobbing one punch after another that making it harder to avoiding his punches, rio s looking or the one two punch ko or just a plain slugger.

Posted May 20, 2014 2:15 pm 


…..

You can categorise them all you want be it slugger, boxer or whatever but you can’t tell me that the way Rios fought against Pacquiao resembles anything like the style Maidana employs.

Posted May 20, 2014 2:03 pm 


Mike Tyson

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LOL. Mike Tyson, you cannot compare the fights as Maidana is a far superior fighter to Rios. Maidana would brutalise Rios and would likely knock Pacquiao out if they fought.

Yes I can because they are both slugger but rio is a plain slugger maidana has turning into a slugger /boxer he setting up his punches behind the jab, and shoot where he believe the target will be that comes with experience because with the a.&b fighter they are so fast that you have to estamated where there head will be a punch ahead.

PAC would beat maidana that is PAC strongest suite fighting strong fighter and hit and not get hit he been doing this all his life. He used to spar with partner one weight class up. He beaten up 180 lb sparing partner before its on utube.

I predicted Floyd would have his hardest fight from hatten as he also the same type of slugger.and would be a S.D fight. Called it to a tee.

Posted May 20, 2014 1:58 pm 


…..

Mike Tyson, you cannot compare the fights as Maidana is a far superior fighter to Rios. Maidana would brutalise Rios and would likely knock Pacquiao out if they fought.

Posted May 20, 2014 1:44 pm 


Dino

Alvarado should have repeated his plan that he had in the second Rios fight. It was perfect. He didn’t look hungry.

Posted May 20, 2014 1:14 pm 


Mike Tyson

jwb, I answer a part anyway, PAC , Bradley, porter, Thurman any fighter that can get a ko inside slugging and prefer fighting inside and colecting point inside is a slugger/ boxer they can do both. Not 100% of both but a mixtures of both when ever needed, as the basic rules of boxing is you box a slugger and outslug a boxer.

Rio is a slugger a c- rated slugger like Ortiz, Kirkland ,tua. Etc. the right way to fight them is to hit them comming in and trade and slip away making them miss and adding points over and over, he won in a easy UD. Remember a ko work in two derection, you can’t force one as your get one on return. This is the right way to fight a plain slugger ( they get better with experience, setupw/jab and estamated throwing target punches).

Now Floyd fought maidana the wrong way he got excited so he fought maidana head on at his strongest sute that trading in the slugging trenches,The old tough man competitions. That why he got hit over 200 times and might need a rematch. the question is that Floyd choice as he claim or did maidana shut Floyd boxing down, he got inside on every try. That tape will be study by trainers.

Posted May 20, 2014 12:58 pm 


jwb

That comment was for Hecdog.

Posted May 20, 2014 12:12 pm 


jwb

I have never seen anybody in love with anybody as you are with Manny. What will you do if Floyd and Manny ever fight and Manny looses? I am not saying he would loose but it is possible. Would you claim corruption or Floyd is taking peds as you believe Marquez is taking peds? Or would you just acaccentuate your hero got beat by a better fighter? Also that win over Rios was not at all impressive. You actually criticized Marquez for picking the looser of Alvarado vs Provodnikov but you praised Manny for beating the looser of Alvarado vs Rios 2. Seems like a double standard to me.

Posted May 20, 2014 12:11 pm 


Mike Tyson

te tumbo

“AUZBOX, for the umpteenth time, it was Marquez who challenged the semi-retired Floyd NOT the other way around. you can’t seem to stop embarrassing yourself with arguments based on inaccurate information at best, and rhetorical lies at worst.”

Hey tumbo, think its was a complement, jmm words were because he hate PAC and PAC just beat Oscar and talk was PAC was the p4p champ and Floyd was retired he said Floyd is the p4p champ not manny” Floyd being the brite guy called this a chalange.

Jmm because he was a JR W.W at 137 lb and had no chance of meeting Floyd. Marquez just said that Floyd would beat me if we fought.

Just what Floyd wanted a garantee no effort fight In exchange for 4-6 millions, jmm lost the fight before it started. You can’t win if you don’t think you can after first effort, you fold. It’s take 110% to beat a champ.

Your half right. Jmm gave a complement to Floyd, and told more that he wished. LOL

Posted May 20, 2014 12:06 pm 


Anonymous

Hecdog

STOP POSTING ON EVERY THREAD!!!

Posted May 20, 2014 12:03 pm 


Hecdog

Floyd Mayweather is on the way out. Maidana beat him around the ring like a rag doll, and the signs of age clearly showed (Unlike Ped Man Marquez whom uses the rejuvenating Hereida Mix). His timing was gone. He looked much slower. His defense was shattered. Floyd Mayweather showed us why he wanted no part of the Legendary Manny Pacquiao. Now Mayweather and his dummies are trying to get in those last 3 fights, and if those fights happen in Las Vegas he has little chance of losing unless he fights the legendary Manny Pacquiao whom would take the judges out of the equation by stopping Floyd Mayweather. Other possible opponents like Khan, Garcia and Thurman even in Floyd’s decline wouldn’t beat him. Khan fights like an amateur and keeps his head up in the air too much. His chin as we all know is made of glass. Thurman has a punchers chance and that’s all. He’s been given way too much credit for doing nothing. He has fought no one. He continually gets rocked by any solid punch, and he has basic boxing skills. I am not impressed by Thurman at all. There are only two fighters out there that will beat Mayweather decisively. Shawn Porter because of his youth speed, power, stamina and most importantly his experience training with the greatest fighter of all time, Manny Pacquiao. Porter is the real deal. I see a unanimous one sided beating in this fight with Porter making Floyd Maywether look old as terry Norris did to Sugar Ray Robinson. The other fighter that would obviously beat Floyd is none other than the only 8 division boxing champion in history, Manny Pacquiao. At age 35 Manny Pacquiao is still regarded by most boxing observers as the greatest fighter of all time. He is the fighter that has a style that can’t be beaten on a one fight basis. Manny’s return to glory was incredible to see as he destroyed a young, strong Brandon Rios, a former champion. His classic and memorable boxing exhibition will be hailed for centuries. Manny then followed that colossal victory by dominating a young, strong, unbeaten Timothy Bradley. Floyd Mayweather’s career will be marred by his fear of fighting Manny Pacquiao. Floyd’s career will be remembered more by what he failed to do and not what he did. No one can ever say Manny Pacquiao ducked or avoided anyone. This is the main reason he is so loved, respected, honored, admired, cherished and adored. A fighter in the true sense of the word. The question remains, will Floyd Mayweather ever fight Manny Pacquiao? I highly doubt it. And this is why no matter who Floyd fights next, the fans will have no interest. The miserable PPV numbers in the Maidana fight clearly show Floyd’s decline even more so out of the ring because unless there is a name with a big fan base, Floyd Mayweather doesn’t draw, which leads to the obvious when it comes to taking money between these two if the fight were to ever happen. Manny Pacquiao should take no less than 70% and Floyd should take 30%. I’ve been telling anyone that would listen that Manny far out draws all boxers world wide. Yes, there are millions of fans around the globe that can”t afford the telecast and never are accounted for. Let’s take Floyd to Macau China and see what he draws. Fans must understand Manny popularity world wide. Congressman, future President, Actor, Singer, Model, Only 8 Division Boxing Champion in boxing history, clothing designer, Bible Study Teacher and so much more. Manny Pacquiao has been the front page picture of boxing for over 10 years. He has brought families together and has elevated boxing to a level never seen before. Manny Pacquiao is very different than fighters like Mayweather and Marquez both of whom have lost respectability in the fans eyes. Both are fearful of fighting Manny Pacquiao. Floyd is simply plain scared for his health and Marquez isn’t confident that he can get Angel Hereida to put together the right nutritional mix and get away with it. Manny Pacquiao stands head and shoulders above them both. A legend that needs no introduction. Trust me, boxing will never be the same once Manny Pacquiao retires. This man carried his country and the sport of boxing on his shoulders. Manny is the best!

Posted May 20, 2014 11:53 am 


Anonymous

and anyone who can “string” words together knows how to use a thesaurus…isn’t that right tetas?

Posted May 20, 2014 11:37 am 


te tumbo

it’s always satisfying to read K.C.’s envy for my command of the english language. after all, anybody can pick up a dictionary but it takes intelligence to string the words together into coherent sentences. K.C. obviously lacks the required intelligence or doesn’t know what a real dictionary looks like(?).

Posted May 20, 2014 10:53 am 


Henry miller

…and it should be added neither May nor PAC are the will to power or the übermensch, they are both just naughty boys. Where’s lil Henry Armstrong? Now that’s more like it.

Posted May 20, 2014 10:15 am 


Henry miller

As James joyce wrote…by a commodius vicus of recirculation…the end conjoined with the beginning. Alpha and omega entwined, we endure the endless PAC May debate. The eternal recurrence.

Posted May 20, 2014 9:56 am 


K.C.

Tumba the idiot. Crossed the frontier and found a dictionary. She’s gonna hurt herself using such “big” words…. Tumba, the keyboard coward….. Ya freaKIN RETARD!!!

Posted May 20, 2014 8:02 am 


te tumbo

moreover, Marquez’s challenge was based on Pacquiao’s* public reluctance to grant him a third bout, which compelled Marquez to eliminate Pacquiao’s* preferred option of a mega-payday v. Floyd. if he had only known about Pacquiao’s* fear of needles(?) he could have sat back and watched Pacquiao* inexplicably sabotage that showdown on his own. not the first time Pacquiao’s* risk-averse mismatchmaking strategy sabotaged an eagerly-anticipated bout.

Posted May 20, 2014 6:28 am 


te tumbo

AUZBOX, for the umpteenth time, it was Marquez who challenged the semi-retired Floyd NOT the other way around. you can’t seem to stop embarrassing yourself with arguments based on inaccurate information at best, and rhetorical lies at worst.

Posted May 20, 2014 6:24 am 


…..

It’s nothing to do with being pro Floyd it’s to do with Pacquiao’s deluded supporters trying to put their own slant on everything. Pacquiao fights Marquez at his comfortable weight and Floyd didnt yet it was at the same weight! Marquez was at lightweight the fight before Pacquiao III so does that mean Pacquiao then forced him to go up to welter for the fight just like Mayweather did?

Posted May 20, 2014 5:45 am 


…..

Auzbox, the Pacquiao fight at Super feather wasn’t the fight directly before the Mayweather one you realise that don’t you? You realise Marquez wasn’t fighting at 130 the fight before Mayweather like you said don’t you? He fought at 130 a year and a half before the Mayweather fight. Your own knowledge needs looked at and is selective at best. And he still sparked Pacquiao weighing the same as he did for Mayweather.

Posted May 20, 2014 5:34 am 


Auzbox

You floydumbs are all the same, stick to marbles ……. Morse code for toilet sniffer

Posted May 20, 2014 4:43 am 


Auzbox

Yeh same weight different years you idiot. Fought PAC super featherweight then mayweather at 144 so your a newbie with no knowledge you muppet. First fight after mayweather back to lightweight hahaha your a moron

Posted May 20, 2014 4:42 am 


…..

Auzbox, Marquez was at 135 the fight before Mayweather and Mayweather ‘told’ Marquez they were fighting did he? Marquez had no choice? He chose to fight Mayweather at that weight and it’s the same weight he put Pacquiao to sleep at you smackhead. Test your own knowledge you moron.

Posted May 20, 2014 4:36 am 


Mike Tyson

Peej,

They may say Pac won the series and knocked Marquez down 5 times. But what will also be said is that Marquez won the war and knocked down Pac twice and on the 2nd knockdown he kept him down. Something Pac couldn’t do to Marquez.

Why do you make up stories? PAC did jmm 6 times total now, in the 4 fight PAC knock down jmm in the 5 round and broke his nose. Then in the 6 round he had Marquez hurt after a few shot and rush in and into jmm right hook and got knock out.
That part of being a aggressive fighter, s/hit happen. But you bounce back, he did as everybody taught he get ko again by rio.

Posted May 20, 2014 3:33 am 


Ryan G

Yeh agree, Marquez at his natural weight would give floyd a real hard run. Floyd is a great fighter but I hate how big name fighters like him and manny play games at the negotiation table, re: glove dispute in the maidana fight and manny when he fought margorito was going to make him shave, that bs is not needed. Just fight and let the commission handle the rest

Posted May 20, 2014 3:22 am 


nemo

When marquez faought floyd, he had come up in weight too fast and was soft. the marquez of now would make an interesting fight with floyd, i’m sure.

Posted May 20, 2014 3:14 am 


Ryan G

One of the top 5 best KOs ever but if manny fights his best and Marquez his best pacman wins Monday thru Sunday 24 hours a day. But Marquez just matches well with pacman, just there styles match, what floyd did to Marquez means nothing, cause then people would just say manny smashes floyds opponents 100 times worse. Floyd would prob beat manny but would be good or even a great fight

Posted May 20, 2014 3:11 am 


Auzbox

Marquez was at 130 when mayweather told him they were fighting, obviously you didn’t know that which means your knowledge is poor. Marquez didn’t just go out there and beat him he took one hell of a beating first, only butt pirates like you don’t acknowledge that.

Posted May 20, 2014 2:56 am 


…..

Auzbox, Pacquiao will be fighting Marquez at the same weight Mayweather did. Same weight that Marquez sparked Pacquiao at. Pacquiao lovers seem to ignore the fact that he was put to sleep in the 6th and instead seem to claim victory because Marquez nose was broken haha. Deluded.

Posted May 20, 2014 2:50 am 


Auzbox

And keep in mind manny killed hatton just as bad taking absolutely no punishment what so ever. Marquez was on his last legs and would have taken weeks to get over his broken nose and cuts.

Posted May 20, 2014 1:38 am 


Auzbox

Who cares winning is winning, no matter how you cut it winning is winning,

Posted May 20, 2014 1:29 am 


PEEJ

They may say Pac won the series and knocked Marquez down 5 times. But what will also be said is that Marquez won the war and knocked down Pac twice and on the 2nd knockdown he kept him down. Something Pac couldn’t do to Marquez.

Posted May 20, 2014 1:10 am 


Auzbox

Good philosophy, don’t cut yourself tumbo. Manny leads 2-1 eat it up chap

Posted May 20, 2014 12:39 am 


TARK

The Marquez KO of Pacquiao will be remembered 500 years from now… But it will also be remembered that Pac won the series and scored 5 knockdowns.

Posted May 20, 2014 12:20 am 


amor

Ok, regarding your comment about pac/jmm over & over. Are you familiar with law of averages?

Posted May 19, 2014 11:06 pm 


Auzbox

And maddy it’s called age. Manny is older so he needs to fight smarter for his health, standing toe to toe doesn’t work for long stints in boxing. Good luck to juan his days are numbered cause there is no way in hell he gets a W against manny again. It will be the same as when floyd beat Marquez only manny will fight him at his comfortable weight

Posted May 19, 2014 10:57 pm 


amor

Prince, last time I checked UD & KO equates to a win! Kindly tell me if otherwise. What would be wrong if pac wins #5 by UD. What is your point?

Posted May 19, 2014 10:55 pm 


Auzbox

Tumbo your wrong people don’t talk about last years Super Bowl they talk about the current year so when manny wins in November book will be closed 3-1-1. It’s that simple, and OK FOR YOU. Manny beat Bradley unanimously who was the 3rd best fighter on the planet. Floyd struggles to a majority win with a guy not ranked in the top 25 so your a fool. Bad luck to you. Maddy why would manny try and be exciting he will go out there to win with a new game plan the same as any fighter would do after a loss

Posted May 19, 2014 10:51 pm 


Chuckles72

The sock puppets in this thread… please get a life.

Posted May 19, 2014 10:40 pm 


The Prince

The Mad Scientist – Good point. In fact, one of the main things Pac fans claimed made him better than Floyd, was that Floyd was a “runner” and Pacquiao was a “fighter”. Now they’re claiming Pacquiao will run and potshot Marquez to a UD victory in the 5th fight. I thought pure boxers were frauds to Pacquiao fans.

Posted May 19, 2014 10:28 pm 


The Mad Scientist

I remeber not long ago Pacquaio fans use to take pride in bragging how no other fighter in the planet had the balls to exchange punches with Manny Pacquiao..fast forward today and listen to his fanboys worshipers right now..sounds to me like they no longer want Manny to be part of any real fights

Posted May 19, 2014 9:03 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Auzbox so you mean to tell us Manny Pacquaio doesn’t have the balls to go toe to toe with Marquez anymore,, how sad, but let me guess you and the pactards still wanna see the 5th fight..gotcha!

Posted May 19, 2014 8:36 pm 


The Prince

A good debated ruined by another Hecdog novel nobody reads. smh…

Posted May 19, 2014 7:16 pm 


Ok

Floyd is fighter better fighters than Manny, Canelo world champion, Marcos Champion even Guerrero. Manny struggles with Bradley and gets KTFO by Marquez he has to fight the same fighters over and over to win. Marquez has his number people always compare the two but there is none. One has 5 losses the other is undefeated next…

Posted May 19, 2014 7:12 pm 


te tumbo

AUZBOX, you should brace yourself. i, and the entire boxing community, will go on for decades if not centuries about Marquez’s DEMOLITION of Pacquiao*. at the very least, every time another devastating KO is scored. after all, Marquez’s KO of Pacquiao* is the new standard of KO brutality in boxing. like i said, brace yourself for the rest of your natural life, At-Least.

Posted May 19, 2014 7:08 pm 


Te Tumbo is a fool

Always has been. No empirical evidence just anecdotal stories. Stop writing novels fool

Posted May 19, 2014 6:49 pm 


Hecdog is an idiot

Always has been. No empirical evidence just anecdotal stories.

Posted May 19, 2014 6:47 pm 


Anonymous

Marquez should have fought Ruslan for his title, or did he not think he could beat him. Marquez would be making a career altering mistake doing so. He could fight Thurman and become Floyds mandatory again but then, he would get murdered. He has few options if any at WW.

Posted May 19, 2014 6:43 pm 


Auzbox

At the end of the day, arum wants a fifth fight so there will prob be a fifth fight. We will see who is better which I think PAC wins easy. He will not engage and box Marquez ears off while Marquez stays planted and gets pot shotted all night long. But after this happens tumbo will still go on about the KO years ago, don’t kill yourself tumbo but by Christmas manny will lead juan 3-1-1 :)

Posted May 19, 2014 6:16 pm 


klaus heisler

yanks wanna watch a real fight watch travis Dickinson vs matty clark which was on Saturday should be able to find it on youtube – fight of the year!!!

Posted May 19, 2014 5:45 pm 


Hecdog

Gentlemen, Ped Man Marquez is simply a tarnished fighter that continues to ridicule the sport of boxing. Angel Hereida, the muscle bound physique, the newly found power, the tantrums he has with Hereida, the back and forth I’ll never fight Manny, I will fight Manny, the acne and the simple fact that fighters don’t continue to have these things as they advance in age. Why do you think Jones, Toney, Mosely and other top fighters made the choice to use Peds. Ped Man Marquez is a tarnished man and everyone knows it. People are not dumb. This is another ego maniac that can’t come to terms with this declining physical tools. I recall watching this guy before he fought Manny Pacquiao the forth time, and he looked like an old beaten up man getting ready to retire after he beat a Russian fighter in Mexico. He was done. And since that fight as he got together with Hereida, everything has changed. Ped Man Marquez will eventually be exposed as I’ve said, but it will be difficult. Just go ahead and read what Hereida had to say about how he masks things, and I mean all things. Hereida went from a PED Supplier to the USA Olympic Track and Field team, to SNITCH so that he could receive anonymity, and finally he weaseled his way to the boxing world. And who else other than a man that was losing it all, and wanted to regain this youth by any means. Juan Manuel “Ped Man” Marquez sold his soul to the devil. And he took the opportunity to fight without having any testing done and selected a perfect fighter to face. He picked a much bigger, slower, one dimensional, on the way out Mike Alvarado to make himself look good. He wanted the boxing fans to be fascinated by watching him take on a much bigger man. Sorry Ped Man, you are not the fighter and person I met years ago, but as we all know, all things eventually come to light.

Posted May 19, 2014 5:28 pm 


amor

Guys, my number was called!!! See you around! Thanks for keeping me occupied!

Posted May 19, 2014 4:52 pm 


amor

Te tumbo, mad scientist says both are still on the top of their game and should fight up and comers instead of them against each other. So, nfl regular season or playoffs? Maddy refuses to answer! He needs your help! LMFAO!

Posted May 19, 2014 4:47 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Jajajajajaajajajajajaajjaaj

Posted May 19, 2014 4:45 pm 


amor

Mad scientist, so, regular season nfl or playoffs!!!!???? Why don’t you join te tumbo in prayers? Pray hard you should! Thanks for keeping me entertained! I hate this jury duty! Lol!

Posted May 19, 2014 4:43 pm 


te tumbo

“Te tumbo, do you want to help out mad scientist?” help? who needs help flipping Manny’s* fanboys? Mad Sci and myself et al. do just fine on our own. help is not necessary nor requested. in fact, it should be pretty obvious that we’re gloating over how easy it is. like target practice in a barrel.

Posted May 19, 2014 4:39 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Lol! Dang!, you dropped it on them tumbo…jajajajajajajajajaja

Posted May 19, 2014 4:32 pm 


amor

Te tumbo, do you want to help out mad scientist? Are you done praying
for the day? Make sure you included jmm not to fight pac anymore? Lol!

Posted May 19, 2014 4:29 pm 


te tumbo

the Arizaless Manny* is finally beginning to look and fight like the feather among welters he’s always been. his appearance and performance v. Bradley was particularly startling. no popping muscles; no endless stamina and energy; no explosive punching. IMO, easy work even for a 40-something Marquez. hopefully Manny* doesn’t sabotage negotiations with his greedy purse-grabbing like he doesn’t Reeeeally want to face Marquez one more time.

Posted May 19, 2014 4:25 pm 


te tumbo

keep checking those chins and tweaking those cheeks MAD SCIENTIST. these Pactards* are utterly shameless the way they fanatically defend Manny* from all criticism and then level the exact same criticism towards other fighters(?!). hysterical and delusional are the only words that come to mind.

Posted May 19, 2014 4:22 pm 


amor

Mad scientist, that’s where the argument starts!!! Both are still on the top of their game so you say. Now, why waste it on up and comers then when both top guys are willing!? Isn’t that what competition is all about!!!??? Best fighting the best!!! Are you telling me you prefer to watch nfl during the regular season than in the playoffs!!!??? Something is wrong with you man!

Posted May 19, 2014 4:20 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Q-vo tumbo..as you can see I been here having some fun yankin on the pactards chain with nothing but the facts..Lol!

Posted May 19, 2014 4:18 pm 


te tumbo

Btw, Ronnie Nathanielz, Ricah Trinidad, and Nonito Donaire scored II for Marquez. gotta love and commend their objectivity.

Posted May 19, 2014 4:15 pm 


te tumbo

“I think Marquez won the last two in my opinion” AUZBOX, generous of you to concede Marquez the win in IV(?). anyway and IMO, Marquez has unofficially defeated Pacquiao* every time they met. you can’t identify 5 rounds for Pacquiao* in I; 7 for II; and we agree on III and IV; but as long as you accept that Bradley is 1-1 v. Pacquiao* you remain consistent.

Posted May 19, 2014 4:14 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Auzbox read sredmond’s last post..I actually agree with him in response to your comment

Posted May 19, 2014 4:13 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Marquez doesn’t have the ability to fight effectively against athletic fast fighters who refuse to engage or want no part of a real fight..that is not Pacquiao’s game or nature especially against Marquez..both have proven to still be top doggs in the present time so why waste whatever fights they have left going at each other for the 5th time when they can fight the up and comers..if you and the rest of the pacboys are content with the 2-1-1 in favor of Pac then let it go already..

Posted May 19, 2014 4:10 pm 


amor

No shame losing all 4 fights, winning 1 or 2 in that rivalry!!!! Go back to marquez/vasquez rivalry, ali/frazier and more, the record books didn’t affect the respect they get from people. Their willingness to prove who is better is what lingers in people’s minds.

Posted May 19, 2014 4:08 pm 


…..

Bradley, who decided the Hatton fight was for the lineal title?
Surely you have to have held either one of the WBC, WBA, WBO or IBF to be considered a world title holder in a weight class? I think the Ring belt does have status attached to it but not when it comes to a discussion on how many weight classes a fighter has held world titles at. The IBO title belongs in no discussion.
No answer first time round.

Posted May 19, 2014 4:07 pm 


Auzbox

Manny won the first two with no doubt and I think Marquez won the last two in my opinion. But the 5th will be manny all day and all night, lightning doesn’t strike twice. In no world does Marquez box mannys ears off so once again maddy get a grip son

Posted May 19, 2014 4:04 pm 


amor

Mad scientist, don’t dwell so much in the past. Jmm was much younger then. Fact is, the record stands @ 2-1-1. Many believe jmm won all 4. In my view, it could have gone either way and I would still be happy with it. I’m just happy this rivalry happened in our lifetime. Presently, jmm is in his 40’s, lost to bradley, decked by b level mike. Just can’t measure him against alvarado. Pac with his speed and head movement, 3-4 yrs his jr would be too much this time around. I would love to see them fight again but I honestly doubt it. Unless, he puts money ahead of his family/health then we’ll see a 5th.

Posted May 19, 2014 3:50 pm 


The Mad Scientist

So who would you favor to be last man standing between Alvarado, Fedchenko and Ramos because these are the men Marquez has fought heading into the 3rd, 4th and potential 5th fight against Manny Pacquiao..so far the results have been a boxing lesson in the 3rd and falling down and not getting up lesson in the 4th..Lol!

Posted May 19, 2014 3:37 pm 


amor

Mad scientist, it’s called figure of speech!!! Remember english composition 101. I used it to compare b level mike decking jmm. Are we on the same page now!? Are you running out of arguments now!? I need to entertained man! Jury duty sucks! Lol!

Posted May 19, 2014 3:14 pm 


Eugthehuge

Marquez has still got punch and hand speed, toughness and resistance, but his footwork is almost non existent and you can see he struggles moving around the ring against younger, lighter opponents . He is going to be in big trouble if he is facing Pacquiao again, depending on which version of Pacquiao comes to the ring that night, of course.

Posted May 19, 2014 3:13 pm 


Anonymous

After how bad Floyd lokoed with 3 class maidana, and need a rematch to get over that hump. it’s Floyd that need a downgrade. Just show what happen when he mistake his chosen fighters. Wrong pick. He look like broner fighting for his life to a c-rated fighter.

Posted May 19, 2014 3:08 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Amor..where in any of my post did I say Pacquiao won’t get to Marquez..both guys will once again land their big shots the difference being wich guy can take the better punch..if you guys actually read instead of getting all hysterical whenever someone doesn’t praise your hero or hints that he can lose to this fighter you will see that..I stated facts and made a reasonable case on why I think Marquez will win a potential 5th..you guys on the other hand debate and argue with nothing but fanboy rhetoric

Posted May 19, 2014 3:04 pm 


Mike Tyson

SREDMOND, if PAC do his combo and hold like Floyd do, he could win convinclly. But PAC pretty fair and don’t fight dirty,no rabbit punch no below the belt no dirty talk. No bragging,a clean fighte, that one of the reason why I respect him. If he punch and hold and learn the trick Dow far you can get away with it, he would shut them out.

Posted May 19, 2014 3:00 pm 


amor

Sredmond, fact is the record stands at 2-1-1! There’s nothing we can do about that! The same thing with floyd v castillo 1. Endless discussion! Fast forward to present. Jmm decked almost 2x by a fighter who at best, a b level pug, says a lot. Looking great against mile high is simply not enough. You measure a foot with 12 inches not with your foot. Jmm is 41 y/o, beaten by bradley, decked by mile high! Just pray he gets contented with what money he has and retire. Personally, I’d like to see #5 but that will all depend to jmm.

Posted May 19, 2014 2:58 pm 


tacoBENDER

Will somebody PLEASE give Mr. Angel Heredia( JMM’s conditioning coach) some well deserved credit.. I mean jeez… yeah JMM is a fighting machine, but let’s face it… he’s a BEAST now… that is ALL

Posted May 19, 2014 2:55 pm 


SREDMOND

If Pacquaio was truly vastly superior to Marquez then he would have decisively defeated him or stopped him long ago, instead JMM’s last 2 performances were escalating in result vs PAC, a very close MD loss that was hotly disputed and a cold blooded KO that ranks among the best in history with an elite fighter in the receiving end..

Posted May 19, 2014 2:46 pm 


amor

Mad scientist, are you kidding me!? Alvarado decked jmm almost 2x!!! And you say pac wont get to him? He looked great against alvarado coz simply mile high is not that good. Rios and prov stopped that guy. Scientist, it’s basic arythmetic! Lol!

Posted May 19, 2014 2:33 pm 


Mike Tyson

Mad. It’s Bradley punch output, 60-80 punches a round jmm throw 40-60 that points, he collect more points than JMM he prove this already.
And foot work to avoild getting hit. He blew jmm away last fight, wasn’t even close. Jmm improvements will get him up to even. If he can, he need 200% or a ko to win.

Posted May 19, 2014 2:21 pm 


The Mad Scientist

I was at the forum and I did see Oscar Valdez..kid appears to be the goods for now

Posted May 19, 2014 2:16 pm 


Mike Tyson

Fight are all logical, they will not be a 5 fight 90% efore the fight he wantd pac to fight flotd he said it so many times. Now he has pass the anouncers after the fight, that the hardest part 1 down, he now announced he not making a decission but plans to spend time with the family he miss for 3 month after he will.2 down. Now who want jmm to retired his family. So if he want to fight he have to climb back up and fight them, money? He want legacy first he lose in a close decission he will be a angry fighter that abuse his family as many end up. He deserve to retire with a clean mind.it can only get worse not better.the odds That logic .

Posted May 19, 2014 2:15 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Mike Tyson there is nothing Tim Bradley does offensively that is better than Marquez..Bradley is just athletically more gifted with his feet and body movement than Marquez wich allowed Tim to stay out of the danger zone in their fight..no biggie, Marquez showed on Saturday night that he still fighting at a high level wich spells trouble for Pacquiao still

Posted May 19, 2014 2:14 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Did anyone see Oscar Valdez the Mexican Olympian from 2008 and 2012? He’s now 11-0, 11 KOs after scoring another KO on this undercard. His oponent was 11-1 going into the fight so unlike American prospects who are fed drunken bums and bellhops, they’re already ramping up this kid’s comp. Seems like he should get some hype.

Posted May 19, 2014 2:08 pm 


Mike Tyson

Probably 7-8 round, maidana won 6 round and he still lost

Posted May 19, 2014 2:05 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Bradley you must be high as a kite..I never said Pacquiao wasn’t a great fighter nor did I down play his career I just stated the facts..as far as Mayweather goes Im not one his nutt hugging fans who does everything in his power to stop the Pacquiao fight from happening..I actually want to see the fight but I wont waste my time getting into the politics of why that fight hasn’t taken place..Im a boxing fan and my interet in other fights and fighters go way beyong whatever the divas of the sport decide to do..

Posted May 19, 2014 2:03 pm 


Mike Tyson

PAC gotten better, remember he beat Bradley by punch output. So it’s relative to a moving target so things stay the same PAC a hair above. And remember jmm has to beat PAC convencly he the champ . So that about 7 rounds won

Posted May 19, 2014 2:03 pm 


Pugfan

by that reasoning. that Paquiao dose not have the ability to pot shot , or outbox Marquez then shouldn’t he be 4and 0 against Manny?

Posted May 19, 2014 2:00 pm 


The Mad Scientist

amor- I suggest you go to youtube and check out Pacquiao vs Marquez I and II..only you pacfarts will count Marquez out of a 12 round fight..remove Marquez trying to sit on his punches to KO Pac and take the fight out the judges hands in the 4th fight and he outboxes Manny again..the difference now is Marquez is more dangerous now that he’s more comfortable and hitting harder at the higher weight..Manny on the other hand is a step slower, doesn’t hit as hard, has a vulnerable chin and fights gun shy..like I said before, Pacquiao doesn’t have the ability to pot shot or outbox Marquez to a decision, he will stand and fight..the difference will be is who can take the better punch and at this stage we know who that is

Posted May 19, 2014 1:55 pm 


amor

Mad scientist, “I’m convinced jmm beats pac”. That’s good dude. Fans not agreeing on a subject matter is healthy for the sport of boxing! I just HATE it when people say this but hopes otherwise. All they have to do is be objective! I go pac if #5 happens! Anyday & 2x on a sunday.

Posted May 19, 2014 1:49 pm 


Pugfan

I don’t really get caught up in all that ped stuff and have never been on hear accusing any fighter of being dirty.

Posted May 19, 2014 1:44 pm 


Mike Tyson

I called it right Iam now 7 wins 1 lost. And that jmm get a knock down with the right hand lead.
They would not be a another ko because it’s his favorite pinch a right lead follow with a left uppercut he throw that with reflex when ever a he belive a fight is coming in, he threw that many times with PAC, just that PAC taught jmm was hurt so he wanted a ko. PAC usually fake a coming in to get jmm throwing first or avoid jmm favorite punch. That the same
Inch that got averelo as I said it would.

Posted May 19, 2014 1:41 pm 


Pugfan

I for one , would like to see a 5th fight between them. I say Paquiao fights a more cautious fight from being gun shy and wins by decision.

Posted May 19, 2014 1:39 pm 


bradley

And nope, most people expected Marquez to beat Alvarado too.

Posted May 19, 2014 1:38 pm 


bradley

@TheMadScientist There’s no reasoning with you, is there? You’re a typical Floydiot. Tell your boy Floyd to man up and face Manny and risk his fake 0. By the way, you have downplayed Pacquiao’s career who is an ATG and HOF’er too…Floyd is too, but NO GOAT! Deal with this too son : Manny is an 8 Division World Champ, including the Ring and Lineal at Light Welter beating Hatton.

Posted May 19, 2014 1:37 pm 


The Mad Scientist

If my memory serves me well wasn’ it you pactards who said Marquez will struggle against Alvarado even in victory since he can’t effectively compete against naturally bigger men that way Pac did..to be honest I thought the same thing until Marquez proved us all wrong..he dominated a younger naturally bigger man who was having a hard time making 140 and spotted him an additional 3lbs not further weight drain him..like I said before, Im convinced Marquez will beat Pacquiao again with less struggle

Posted May 19, 2014 1:36 pm 


Mike Tyson

They no reason for a 5 fight they only reason would be would be PAC a get koed or not..
PAC the champion and you have to beat him strongly don’t count the MGM judge that stole the. Badley fight, JMM not going to do this, he lose in a close fight, as allway because PAC don’t hold after he punches as Floyd does. He fair. And jmm goes home angry and want another fight. Or retires sad and right back were he was.. PAC win it close. I want to see PAC vs Martinez better. At 150-152 lb

Posted May 19, 2014 1:34 pm 


amor

Mad scientist, be objective!!! Remove that ko part on #4 and you’ll have the exact scenario for #5! What makes it worse is the fact that jmm is older now. That’s the REASON why you hardly see a hardcore jmm fan around here willing to see #5! Like I told you before, that ko in #4 just made pac a more dangerous fighter. Not crowd pleasing but hard to beat & most IMPORTANTLY, not picky.

Posted May 19, 2014 1:26 pm 


The Mad Scientist

amor- Marquez has beaten lesser fighters than Alvarado heading into his 3rd and 4th fight against Pacquiao and still box Manny’s ears off and khtfo..are you trying to say Pacquiao has a better resume therefore his the greater fighter..that’s cool and all but it still doesn’t chance the fact that Pac can’t decisively beat Marquez or that Juan is a future HOF’er and an all-time great..trying to down play Marquez’s opposition wont change what already happened with Pacquiao nor does it make Marquez an easier opponent for Pacquiao in a potential 5th fight..I can’t believe you tards haven’t learn anything after 10 years

Posted May 19, 2014 1:14 pm 


DaTruth

the Urine Drinker won but the Fake Mexican didn’t do anything more then come in face first and take shots.

Posted May 19, 2014 1:04 pm 


The Mad Scientist

You need to put the bottle down and read all my post..not once did I mention titles or Hattons name

Posted May 19, 2014 12:56 pm 


amor

Mad scientist, don’t get wowed by jmm’s power & combinations! He was in the ring with a fighter who at BEST, a B level pug. Measuring a foot requires 12 inches not with a “foot”! Does that help??

Posted May 19, 2014 12:54 pm 


bradley

@TheMadScientist You mentioned Hatton before, when you asked about the lineal light welter title that was up for grabs in Pacquiao-Hatton. Everyone can read the posts below, lol! Once again, just for you, you hopeless Floyd nuthugger, Pacquiao won the Ring, Lineal and IBO Light Welter title when he beat Ricky Hatton. Keep up son and learn to follow the conversation!

Posted May 19, 2014 12:49 pm 


The Mad Scientist

I know Marquez fought Alvarado what’s your point..Marquez also fought some european name Fedshenko (I think) and Likar Ramos and still ktfo of Pacquiao so what are you trying to say to me, speak up son!

Posted May 19, 2014 12:47 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Bradley- and you are telling me this why..??..where exactly in any of my post did I bring up the IBO title and mention Ricky Hattons name..I think you need to put the pipe down and keep up son..

Posted May 19, 2014 12:42 pm 


amor

Mad scientist, do I need to remind you again who jmm fought Saturday! ? Goodness gracious!!!! Even rios got to him!!! Stop hugging jmm’s nuts and be OBJECTIVE!!! Let me spell it out for you again!!! A-L-V-A-R-A-D-O! next time, I’ll spell out his fitst name for you!!! You’re welcome!!! I know you’ll thank me!

Posted May 19, 2014 12:39 pm 


The Mad Scientist

What do pacfans who hide behind a keyboard care if Manny risk his health and get ktfo again..they have nothing to lose since they are bitter as it is and will remain that way

Posted May 19, 2014 12:36 pm 


bradley

@TheMadScientist Read previous posts,…SREDMOND mentioned the IBO title just that Pacman won at light welter. Pacquiao won the Ring, Lineal and IBO Light Welter title when he beat Ricky Hatton. Keep up, son!

Posted May 19, 2014 12:34 pm 


Rich

sisco…”Manny has never unified one of his bogus titles”..neither has Floyd Mayweather ……..

Posted May 19, 2014 12:29 pm 


bradley

@sisco Floyd is the Greatest (Ducker) Of All Time. Best Ever at getting the right fight at the right time. He can’t even take on Manny once, never fought Bradley, barely beat a used-up Oscar whom Manny did a convincing number on, needed Joe Cortez to help him beat Hatton by breaking up the rhythm of the fight, lost to Castillo in their first fight and outlanded heavily in the punch stats, didn’t beat Maidana except by bogus Vegas decision, doesn’t fight outside Vegas while other stars fight all around the world…

Posted May 19, 2014 12:28 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Marquez exceeded your worse nightmare when he ktfo of your idol..never in a million years did you see that coming and now we are suppose to believe that Marquez can never get to Pacquiao’s dented chin again..please, Manny is a step slower and a traumatize gun shy fighter at that who will be even more predictable against a classic counter puncher like Marquez who is now hitting harder at the higher weights..

Posted May 19, 2014 12:24 pm 


…..

Bradley, who decided the Hatton fight was for the lineal title?
Surely you have to have held either one of the WBC, WBA, WBO or IBF to be considered a world title holder in a weight class? I think the Ring belt does have status attached to it but not when it comes to a discussion on how many weight classes a fighter has held world titles at. The IBO title belongs in no discussion.

Posted May 19, 2014 12:19 pm 


amor

Mad scientist, you have MORE chance winning the lottery 2x than jmm winning #5 if it happens!!! I find it FUNNY when jmm nuthuggers say pac’s going to get ktfo but keep HOPING there won’t be a #5!!!! Really concerned huh!? YOU SHOULD!

Posted May 19, 2014 11:54 am 


sisco

Manny never unified ONE of his bogus titles.

Posted May 19, 2014 11:52 am 


pedquez

Marquez is using peda

Posted May 19, 2014 11:44 am 


sisco

Bradley lol Floyd softened Hatton up.

Posted May 19, 2014 11:41 am 


sisco

Pacquiao is an 8 time title holder NOT an 8 time world champion. Anyone over 35 should know the difference.

Posted May 19, 2014 11:41 am 


bradley

Floyd needs to go up to Middleweight at least and beat Martinez or Golovkin at 160 to even hope of comparing with Manny’s achievements…

Posted May 19, 2014 11:18 am 


bradley

Pacquiao won the Ring, Lineal AND IBO Light Welter title against Ricky Hatton…but don’t let the details get in the way of your mistaken rant…

Posted May 19, 2014 11:14 am 


The Mad Scientist

Poor pactards, I find it funny when they say things like Manny learned from his last fight, he wont make the same mistake again, he’ll be better next time ect.. I wonder what these clowns were thinking how Manny can improve on his performance heading into his 4th fight with JMM…truth is all you pacboys can hope for is that a 5th fight can be made and Manny finally get a decisive victory how ever that may be just to get that bitter taste out of your mouth..Im convinced that Saturday’s version of JMM stops Manny in his tracks again and as much as I enjoyed the whole spectacle with the pactards thinking their idol was dead when they saw him laying flat on the ring canvas with the wife crying,, I don’t really care much to see it again

Posted May 19, 2014 11:10 am 


Riviera

A couple of things: one, Alvarad is/was done. He shouldn’t have been allowed to fight after his last. Second, the only reason that Marquez is ‘mulling’ over fighting Pacquiao–when all along he stated that he wanted a fifth title–was because he knows that he’ll be checked for peds and he was losing the last fight when he was on pads….so he’ll get blasted in 6 rounds now if he’s not on them. But he’s got 20 million reasons to fight, and they’re all dollars…

Posted May 19, 2014 11:05 am 


SREDMOND

Pac Man, Marquez and Mayweather are ALL GREAT fighters and living legends of the sport… Mayweather is simply the BEST of the 3 and thats just how it is, his run of dominance has extended to the age of 37, which is beyond unusual considering the 22 World Title fights he has been in… Manny Pacquiao is an awesome fighter, yet he has been derailed on several occasions most recently in shocking and utterly conclusive fashion… Floyd Mayweather has NEVER been even knocked to the canvas yet he faces STRONGER and YOUNGER fighters on a regular basis.. Guys wanna say “being undefeated is no big deal” YES it is when you have 4 lineal Championships, World Titles in 5 weight classes and dominant wins over multiple HOF fighters hate the man all you want, he continually denies you creeps the joy of seeing another boxers hand raised when he is in the ring…

Posted May 19, 2014 11:00 am 


SREDMOND

Manny winning titles in a solid 7 weight classes is historically relevant, I don’t have much respect for the title at 154 because neither he not Margo accomplished a single thing at 154….Mayweather is undefeated thru 5 weights and was lineal in 4 of them, he is the Unified Champ at 147 and 154 all blockbuster accomplishments get with the program, beating a PRIME Canelo trumps beating a washed up Margo who was NEVER a Champ at 154

Posted May 19, 2014 10:45 am 


…..

Only on Pacquiao’s record does the IBO light welter belt get considered a legitimate world title. I count 7 weight classes where he has won world titles. Just to be picky.

Posted May 19, 2014 10:32 am 


te tumbo

PINOY, you can count phony titles all you want, if it makes you feel better about being Pinoy. fight-fans will defer to the image of Pacquiao* planted face-first and butts-up into the ring canvas while Marquez lumbers to the opposite corner to raise his hands in victory. Pacquiao* either does and sacrifices everything in his power to confirm a fifth-bout or THAT will forever be the image of Pacquiao* etched into the memory of every fight-fan and the annals of boxing history. ONLY a convincing “W” v. Marquez (which Pacquiao* has never come close to achieving) can remedy that scenario. otherwise, the rivalry is OVER. Marquez is Greater. Mabuhay ang Marquez!

Posted May 19, 2014 10:21 am 


pinoy

Tetumbo we dont need marquez.. but whatever our idol’s decision is..we filipinos will support him no matter what win or loose.. pacquiao already placed himself above all by becoming 8 time world champ that nobody else does..

Posted May 19, 2014 10:16 am 


te tumbo

there’s been hype of a rebooted Pacquiao* before every one of his bouts v. Marquez (remember “manila ice”?). the result? the same old single-fisted, one-dimensional puncher who Marquez consistently takes to school no less than he just did v. Alvarado. in fact, Marquez scored the same variety of punches v. Pacquiao* in III, which should’ve resulted in an equally lopsided scorecard in favor of Marquez. when it didn’t, Marquez publicly-declared his intention to take the fight out of the judge’s hands and KO Pacquiao*. standard hype with Team Pacquiao* but only Marquez has executed it to establish an entirely new standard for KO Demolition of an arch-rival in a title-bout. resulting in Marquez being declared “Champion of the Decade” and Napman* becoming “KO victim of the Decade” if not all of Boxing history. meanwhile, if a fifth bout doesn’t happen, it will be because a broke and desperate Pacquiao* sabotaged it by haggling over purse-split. Marquez consistently accepted the smaller purse (e.g., $6 to Manny’s* $20 million in IV) to ensure their bouts happened. either Manny* does the same or forever becomes a prominent footnote to Marquez’s ring-legacy. ONLY a fifth-bout and decisive “W” can erase the image of a prostrate Napuiao* snoring into the ring canvas while a triumphant Marquez stands on the opposite ring-post with his arms raised in victory.

Posted May 19, 2014 10:09 am 


pinoy

Anyone can say manny beats this guy or that guy not in his prime.. but the fact still remains… a title is a title… and that’s a feat that no one except manny achieved..maybe mayweather can match it if he fights and beat bhop..
But until then i as pactard/filipino as you say.. we have manny pacquiao the filipino idol the only 8 time world chanp in 8 diff division.. AND THATS A FACT

Posted May 19, 2014 10:09 am 


pinoy

MBuyisli

Oh it was at 152.. and sanction by wbc or something.. but sanctioned is sanctioned… title is a title.. and pacquiao is pacquiao with 8 titles ib 8 different division which mayweather cannot achieved.. maybe he can do it also and be a champ to lower weight class.. but the fact is he did not!

Lol at you if you think mayweather has the better achivements than pac..

Posted May 19, 2014 9:51 am 


Mbuyiseli

Its only Pactards who think Mayweather lost the fight. You just been fooled by Al Haymon and GBP will steal your money again come September since you think Maidana won.

Posted May 19, 2014 9:38 am 


rich

Marcos Maidana was 5-3 up in rounds after eight rounds against Floyd Mayweather and he won 6 rounds against Floyd at the end of the 12. One judge out of the three on the night scored the fight correctly. The fight was a draw if ever there was one. Floyd is the American Sven Ottke, always fights at home and ALWAYS get the decision whether he deserves to or not…because he’s the ‘House Fighter’, because he’s Floyd…Pacquiao will beat Marquez in a fifth fight. Floyd never fought Pacman once… just think of that, the so-called GOAT didn’t box his main rival, ever, at all…he didn’t fight Bradley either..

Posted May 19, 2014 9:29 am 


Anonymous

Unlike you….most are in agreement the fight should have been a draw. When I say most, I’m not even referring to fans, most of which agree Floyd did NOT win convincingly. Maidana owned Floyd all night, just like a cheap trick.

Posted May 19, 2014 8:44 am 


pinoy

Even if mayweather beats pacquiao when they fight.. that wont still change the fact that nobody except pac..held world titles in 8th different divisions..many fighters retire with 0 loss to his record.. but none have 8 titles under 8 different divisions..

Posted May 19, 2014 8:40 am 


Rentas

and mayweather lost 3 times, so what.

Posted May 19, 2014 8:39 am 


The Truth

Manny Pacquiao lost 5 times.
Mayweather lost 0.

Again facts are facts… Right Pactards.

Posted May 19, 2014 8:14 am 


pinoy

SREDMOND
True but mayweather is not an 8 time world champ in 8th weight divisions.. who else dies? Again facts are facts

Posted May 19, 2014 7:46 am 


SREDMOND

Mayweather WON against Maidana and schooled him during the later rounds at the age of 37 years old.. What were Leonard, Duran and Hearns doing then?? Losing and looking subpar! Terry Norris ripped Leonard at 34, Barkley murdered Hearns at what 29? Even the great Hagler retired at what? 32? So what Maidana gave Floyd a hard night he still LOST, produced no KD’s or even hurt the smaller, older boxer…46-0 choke to death on that slice of reality

Posted May 19, 2014 7:43 am 


Auzbox

Marquez scientist will never be equal to PAC no matter how much you love or write. And im fifth generation Australian so I would sound like a drink Aussie not pom. Manny has achieved something Marquez couldn’t do in 2 lifetimes the only great thing about him is he matches up with manny well. He would never of beaten hatton or cotto or dela Hoya not in a million lifetimes under any circumstances

Posted May 19, 2014 7:31 am 


pinoy

Just let pac fight to whoever.. boxing fans will be the winner.. it’s crystal clear pac is still much more popular than marquez(pac dont need this one if marquez chickens out again) . Floyd thinks he do really well in terms of ppv why fight pac? Well as pactards as you say..manny doesnt need maywethear he can retire now and will always be number 1..8 division world champ..can mayweather or marquez match those? Facts are facts..

Posted May 19, 2014 7:31 am 


Anonymous

He couldn’t even put Maidana away, someone he took for granted, that raises even more questions. ATG??? I beg to differ.

Posted May 19, 2014 7:21 am 


Anonymous

Again, yeah sure and Floyd has fought how many ATG that were in their prime?????? Zero!!!! How’s that for someone he, you and the rest of the flomos think is an “ATG.”

Posted May 19, 2014 7:19 am 


SREDMOND

Guys trying to put Tim Bradley in Mayweathers class are making me laugh, Bradley has terrific heart but only 12 stoppages, he is often WILD he is not an ATG and many of his bouts have been close , terrific young guy but no ones legend.. Manny beat Tim the first time in the eyes of most as he did the second, I don’t consider it as a fight manny was spectacular
In, he was getting countered ALOT and missing early in the bout his reluctance to finish against a guy like Tim who is not a big puncher also raises questions.. Guys trying to get Pac a pass for getting KOED need to give it up, the Bradley win does not equate to Manny beating Marquez last time out..

Posted May 19, 2014 6:47 am 


The Mad Scientist

Auzbox -Cotto was only a little over a year removed from suffering the worse beating of his career against Margarito..not to mention he had a tough debatable win against Clottey going into the Pacquiao fight..truth is Cotto and Margarito left a big chunk of themselves in the ring that night much like Corrales vs Castillo..nonen

Posted May 19, 2014 5:53 am 


The Mad Scientist

First of all I don’t hate on Pacquiao or any fighter..you just can’t stand the thought of Marquez being Pacquiao’s equal or greater than him..I’ve been posting as The Mad Scientist for nearly 10 years and nothing is gonna change that..yes I root for the hometown/mexican fighter but no I don’t spend countless days, weeks, month or even years like you pacturds do making excuses when they lose..Im a boxing fan not a fanboy

Posted May 19, 2014 5:38 am 


Aust…

@auzbox settle down mate you’re mouthing off like a stupid pommy drunk

Posted May 19, 2014 5:30 am 


Auzbox

Selli there stable mates under the same trainer so your obviously only new to the sport. As for you maddy cotto was at the peak and PAC destroyed him like mayweather could not. Your just a PAC hater. Marquez has been beaten by PAC twice well actually 3 times as the judge scored wrong thier first fight. Good luck with Marquez later in the year once PAC whoops him you will change your name cause you will be the first I’m looking for

Posted May 19, 2014 4:51 am 


Jimmy

Anybody who thinks Marquez ain’t juicing is insane lol. The dude looks loaded on something and it ain’t frijoles and tacos

Posted May 19, 2014 4:48 am 


The Mad Scientist

Juan Manuel Marquez doesn’t need to land a lucky punch or prove he can ktfo of Manny Pacquiao again..truth is Marquez has always found a home during the four fight series against Pacquiao and he’ll continue to do it again..only difference is Marquez is bigger, stronger and hits alot harder above 140lbs and has the better chin

Posted May 19, 2014 4:44 am 


Mbuyiseli

So why is Pacquaio ain’t in a hurry to fight Provo either? You guys are stupid. So lets set a standard for JMM that doesn’t apply to Pacquaio. JMM fought real champ at 135lbs when Pacquaio chose the paper champ. JMM fought Floyd the best boxer in the last 20 years. Pacquaio’s broke ass now wants to fight Mayweather to settle his debts.

Posted May 19, 2014 4:38 am 


The Mad Scientist

What look to you like an amazing Pacquiao run from David Diaz to Shane Mosley was nothing but an illusion that JMM exposed in the 3rd fight..you turds thought that Marquez was no longer in Pacs league at these higher weights..instead we got the truth the Manny was beating bigger guys who were only at the peak of their popularity and not their powers..all those guys Pac beat during that run were one fight removed from the worse loss of their career and compromised at that with catchweights..all set up to make Pacquiao look good by offsetting the size disadvantage with his athleticism, speed and stamina at the time until Marquez showed us the truth in the 3rd fight and reducing Manny Pacquiao down to rubble in the their 4th fight..did I say more

Posted May 19, 2014 4:37 am 


Mbuyiseli

Isn’t it amazing that the same morons who said Pacquaio should not test for a Mayweather fight now see JMM as a juiced up boxer.

Posted May 19, 2014 4:34 am 


Auzbox

You must be Mexican, cause Marquez has declined. He walked away from a prov fight, took an easy fight cause he didn’t want to loose two fights in a row. Marquez is the same fighter Bradley beat easy only older. I don’t know why the fight is bought up Marquez doesn’t deserve a big fight. Whipped by Bradley then beats a bum

Posted May 19, 2014 4:22 am 


Auzbox

You sound like an imbecile. He has to engage a fight rather than out box. Guess you hate mayweather cause he has never engaged in fighting. Marquez hasn’t earned a PAC fight or pay day. While Marquez was beating no body’s PAC was beating p4p top guys you clown

Posted May 19, 2014 4:19 am 


The Mad Scientist

Yes Marquez fought Alvarado last night..meantime Pacquiao wanted no part of a real fight against Brandon Rios..

Posted May 19, 2014 4:07 am 


The Mad Scientist

There is nothing Tim Bradley does offensively that is better than Marquez..and Pacquiao outboxing Brandon Rios or outworking Bradley doesn’t translate into having the style or ability to pot shot or box his way to a decision against Marquez..fact is Marquez is hitting harder and still very precise and accurate with his combinations..not to mention his defense is very tight and doesn’t eat silly shots through out a fight like one would expect a fighter to do at an advance age..sorry Pacfarts, but Marquez will find a home for his lead right hand against Manny Pacquiao and even though he’ll take some shots of his own the difference will be is who can take a better punch..at this stage we all know who that is..

Posted May 19, 2014 4:01 am 


amor

Mad scientist, do you want me to spell out the name of the guy jmm fought last.night!!!??? Are you that detached!!!??? A-L-V-A-R-A-D-O. I’m sorry but I hope that helps!

Posted May 19, 2014 3:41 am 


The Mad Scientist

Triangle theories don’t work in boxing and that’s a fact, but I don’t expect fanboys to know that

Posted May 19, 2014 3:39 am 


The Mad Scientist

Auzbox -Marquez proved last night that he still has the hunger to wanna fight against a younger naturally bigger guy..meanwhile Manny wants to play it safe now and you clowns expect knowledgeable fight fans to believe a potential 5th fight against Marquez is in the bag for your boy..please! go somewhere else with your fandom fantasies and don’t come back until you act like you know..Lol!

Posted May 19, 2014 3:34 am 


Auzbox

Everything Bradley done to Marquez. IE boxed and footwork, manny does 10 times better, so good luck Marquez you beat a guy that’s not ranked manny took down the 1 ranked welter as of april

Posted May 19, 2014 3:31 am 


amor

Mad scientist, throwing combinations at manny is not as easy as alvarado. Leave the ko out of #4 and you’ll see the same scenario. Jmm bloodied and in dire straits bigtime. Pac’s recklessness made him run through that right counter.

Posted May 19, 2014 3:29 am 


Auzbox

You live up to your name you are mad, they should shoot you. Manny just beat #3 best fighter on the planet, Marquez beat a guy lucky to be in the top 100 floyd best a guy lucky to be in the top 25. Beat it maddy

Posted May 19, 2014 3:28 am 


The Mad Scientist

The Marquez vs Bradley fight gave you Pacboys false hope that Juan was ripe for the taking..nothing but a bad style match up that Bradley got the decision for in a close fight that you clowns try to make as easy work for Tim to down play Marquez’s KO over your boy..

Posted May 19, 2014 3:27 am 


Auzbox

Funny mayweather has always been gun shy or never had any power. Prob the later. Manny is growing more confident with every fight, gun shy is laughable for the fighter of the past decade. Juan will lose for the third time if the fifth comes off, that is a certainty

Posted May 19, 2014 3:26 am 


Hecdog

I retract my previous statement about the acne on Marquez’ body… turns out he had the same style acne on his body back in the first Pacquiao fight over 10 years ago… nothing different there.

Posted May 19, 2014 3:22 am 


The Mad Scientist

Yes Marquez made Pacquiao realize his punching resistance will never be the same thus seeing this new gun shy version of Pac who wants no part of a real fight anymore..Juan took his heart and soul that night..mean time Marquez is looking meaner and punching harder in combinations than he ever did before above 140lbs..

Posted May 19, 2014 3:15 am 


amor

Mad scientist, that wasn’t pac’s 1st rodeo! He has been ko’d before he became great. Your theory of cracked chin is laughable! In my view, that ko loss to jmm made pac
a more dangerous pug. He finally realized that he doesn’t have to knock somebody out to win. You have a better chance of winning the lottery twice than jmm winning their next fight. SAD BUT TRUE! Alvarado, at best a B level boxer almost decked jmm 2x. Imagine what pac can do to your guy!

Posted May 19, 2014 3:00 am 


The Mad Scientist

Pacquiao doesn’t have to be reckless to get checked with right hands by JMM..at this stage Marquez has the better chin and is looking better then ever above 140lbs..you clowns wanted to believe JMM lost to Bradley easy to down play his knock out over Manny thus coming to the conclusion a potential 5th fight was in the bag for Pacquiao..you fools are in denial if you think this new gun shy cracked chin version of Manny Pacquiao is gonna pot shot his way to victory against JMM..Marquez will remind him real fast of the night he planted him face down ass up as soon as the first big right hand lands which won’t take long watch…Lol!

Posted May 19, 2014 2:39 am 


Auzbox

Alvarado was stopped by rios who PAC beat every round. Marquez beat no one special and doesn’t have the fitness to chase PAC all night. If Marquez can’t land that shot in the first 6 he ain’t landing it. Sorry chap

Posted May 19, 2014 2:28 am 


amor

Pacman is not going to be reckless if #5 happens!!! It will be a unanimous beatdown or mercy stoppage courtesy of the referee or nacho! So start praying jmm fans and hope jmm gets contented with the money he has now!!! LMFAO!

Posted May 19, 2014 2:22 am 


The Mad Scientist

You Pac clowns are dumb if you think Manny is gonna pot shot his way to a decision against Marquez..the winner of the 5th fight will be the guy who can take the better punch..at this stage Marquez has the better chin to go along that he is looking better than he ever above 140lbs..Pacqiao on the other hand has become gun shy and his punching resistance is not the same..you fools are in denial if you think Manny has the 5th fight (if it happens) in the bag after watching Marquez destruction of Alvarado last night..the illusion you cats wanted to believe that Bradley beat Marquez easy to down play Juan’s knock out over Manny was nothing but false hope and you know it pacfarts..Lol!

Posted May 19, 2014 2:21 am 


Auzbox

And last I checked him lampley isn’t a fighter so what his opinion is, well holds no weight

Posted May 19, 2014 2:14 am 


Auzbox

Who cares whether it was luck or not it happened. PAC doesn’t think about it, only you clowns do it happened years ago and he couldn’t even back it up with a win

Posted May 19, 2014 2:11 am 


Auzbox

Yeh maidana muscled him and made him miss. If maidana can make floyd miss so could mannys mother

Posted May 19, 2014 2:09 am 


sisco

Tiny Richard I agree. Im just saying thats what people will say.

Posted May 19, 2014 2:08 am 


sisco

Pacquiao fans might be over analyzing the Mayweather v Maidana fight. The small framed though muscular Pacquiao might not be able to out muscle Floyd the way maidana did.

Posted May 19, 2014 2:07 am 


Tiny Richard

sisco

I tend to think Marquez will always give manny hell just like Vernon Forest did with Shane Mosley. However if manny can get a clear cut decision he can say he is 3-1-1 against Marquez and more people might say jmm did get “lucky” with that counter right.
Posted May 19, 2014 2:04 am

No luck involved with that punch. He lured Pac in and caught him with the right. Jim Lampley actually called it before it happened. Pretty amazing.

Posted May 19, 2014 2:07 am 


Auzbox

I don’t doubt he can but what I am 100 percent sure of is he will fight him like Bradley did. Marquez is lead footed and manny wont be exciting he will take a leaf from floyds book and bore us all to death to a unanimous decision

Posted May 19, 2014 2:07 am 


sisco

I tend to think Marquez will always give manny hell just like Vernon Forest did with Shane Mosley. However if manny can get a clear cut decision he can say he is 3-1-1 against Marquez and more people might say jmm did get “lucky” with that counter right.

Posted May 19, 2014 2:04 am 


The Mad Scientist

The chances of Marquez ktfo of Pacquiao in a potential 5th fight like he did in the 4th fight are slim..but you pactards are playing yourselves if you thing last night’s version of Marquez can’t hurt or land those lead right hands on a gun shy, cracked chin Pacquiao on a consistent basis hurting him and potentially stopping him again..

Posted May 19, 2014 1:53 am 


Auzbox

Tend to agree mma at least if the 2 best guys in mma were in the UFC in the same weight division they would of fought 3 times already. Boxing is going to be the loser soon

Posted May 19, 2014 1:47 am 


Auzbox

Mayweather wont fight pac but goes to jail for hitting a woman haha only KO he will get

Posted May 19, 2014 1:36 am 


Tark

Ariza leaves and Pacquiao cant stop anyone. ..hmmmm

Posted May 19, 2014 1:23 am 


MMA Rules

All you guys are pathetic. Thats why mma is on the rise and your sport is dead. Mayweather a coward and Pacquiao a steroid abuser.

Posted May 19, 2014 1:22 am 


Auzbox

He could fight Marquez for a fifth fight, Marquez is a top guy p4p higher ranked than canelo p4p or maidana who isn’t even ranked top 25 LMAO

Posted May 19, 2014 1:21 am 


Auzbox

Baldomir, Judah after a loss, Ortiz, guerro hahaha great comp for a p4p king LMAO manny been fighting top guys for a lot longer than void duckweather

Posted May 19, 2014 1:20 am 


Auzbox

I’m Australian you muppet I know all about Hussein facts state he lost so get over it. Stop living in the past

Posted May 19, 2014 1:16 am 


Havoc

Tark: Bullshi7! Tell Floyd to man up and beat Pacman in the ring! Other than that you are full of cr@p!

Posted May 19, 2014 1:12 am 


Tark

Pacquiao has suffered 3 brutal knockouts lol

Posted May 19, 2014 1:11 am 


Tark

Lol Auzbox skinny had manny down for 11 seconds do a little research Pactard.

Posted May 19, 2014 1:10 am 


Auzbox

Floyd never had any power can’t even go a 6 th division. Manny just won in his 7th in April LMAO hahahaha

Posted May 19, 2014 1:10 am 


Tark

Auzbox duh! Floyd has never claimed to be a knockout artist idiot.

Posted May 19, 2014 1:09 am 


Havoc

Yup tark! Nothing wrong with comparing how great is Floyd than Pacman as long as he don’t face him in the ring!!!!!ya dig my negr o !

Posted May 19, 2014 1:09 am 


Auzbox

Hussein was stopped you fool

Posted May 19, 2014 1:09 am 


Tark

Floyd stops Manny. Pacquiao too small and old and no longer has power.

Posted May 19, 2014 1:09 am 


Auzbox

Mayweather can’t knock out guys ever hahahaha manny dropped Marquez 3 times in one round, how did floyd go putting Marquez down??? LMAO

Posted May 19, 2014 1:08 am 


Tark

Torrecampo
Singsurat
Sanchez
Hussein
Morales
Marquez
Marquez
Marquez
Bradley
Marquez

Posted May 19, 2014 1:08 am 


Auzbox

Tark your a dummy pretty sure the record books read 2-1-1 but obviously you can’t read,

Posted May 19, 2014 1:07 am 


Tark

Auzbox lol Pacquiao cant even knock out guys anymore

Posted May 19, 2014 1:06 am 


Auzbox

Manny can sleep at night. Floyd has videos saying he is scared and his father is scared. Can’t erase those videos. No vids of PAC saying he was scared hahaha

Posted May 19, 2014 1:06 am 


Havoc

Floyd is all time BEST as long as he don’t fight Pacman…….ya dig?!

Posted May 19, 2014 1:05 am 


Tark

Marquez whips Manny 4 times and Floyd toys with Marquez. Pactards say this has nothing to do with how Pacquiao would do against Floyd. Floyd struggles but wins a clear decision over Maidana, a man Manny has not fought and Pactards say that’s proof Floyd is ducking Manny. ..huh????

Posted May 19, 2014 1:05 am 


Tark

Pactards obsessed with Floyd and. Manny cant figure out JMM

Posted May 19, 2014 1:01 am 


The Truth

Peej don’t waste your time with Auz….There’s no logic to why he thinks PAC would beat Money… Just more garbage.

Posted May 19, 2014 1:01 am 


Auzbox

How is he out shining him mayweather struggled to beat a guy not ranked p4p and manny beat a top 3 guy. Sorry but in no world is mayweathers past win greater than pacs

Posted May 19, 2014 1:00 am 


Auzbox

That’s like me saying floyd got beat up in grade 6. WHO CARES. Facts state Bradley was the 3rd best fighter on the planet. Young, fresh, undefeated but PAC doninates and didn’t even fight his best. So if he fights average and beats the 3rd best p4p hate to see what he would do when he fights at the top of his game

Posted May 19, 2014 12:58 am 


PEEJ

Don’t matter still happened. And if we are going by now Floyd is still out shining Pac.

Posted May 19, 2014 12:57 am 


Havoc

Auzbox I’m still in love with you!!xxooxx

Posted May 19, 2014 12:57 am 


PEEJ

If you look at their ages and weights, they have pretty much traveled the same amount of weight. Only difference is Pac turned pro while Floyd was an amateur. So technically they have both fought in a lot of divisions. Only difference is Floyd has been the Lineal Champ in more divisions than Pac has at the same time. Pac has only held titles in 7 weight divisions and I think has held 4 Lineal Championships but not at the same time. He has only held one at a time and Floyd has never lost his titles or championships in the ring. Pac has.

Posted May 19, 2014 12:57 am 


Auzbox

Wasn’t Sanchez like over 10 years ago before he was a star and had some real time with roach so pretty poor you pull that out

Posted May 19, 2014 12:56 am 


Auzbox

Morales he lost 115-113 then smashed him twice. Beat Bradley the first time easy then the second fight Bradley was ranked 3 fighter on the planet then beats him unanimously as well

Posted May 19, 2014 12:54 am 


Auzbox

Looked terrible against Moseley but won every round. Pull your head out of your a ss

Posted May 19, 2014 12:52 am 


Havoc

Just like Floyd, Marquez will ducked Pacman…..guaranteed!!!!!!!!!

Posted May 19, 2014 12:51 am 


PEEJ

You are making up stuff for Pac also. Yeah he has some big names on his resume. But when they were in there primes they beat Pac or gave him trouble. He has yet to decisively beat Marquez, he went life and death with Augapito Sanchez and got a draw when he was looking for a way out or quit, he got beat by a Morales closer to his prime. Looked terrible against Bradley and Mosley. Got KOd by Marquez, and old Marquez at that. Please.

Posted May 19, 2014 12:51 am 


Auzbox

He fought down 1 division PAC fought up 2-3 at that stage. PAC against a monster still smashed him

Posted May 19, 2014 12:50 am 


Auzbox

And I can get a busted ear drum by pushing my thumb in with force. BUG DEAL also a slap is the most common cause for a busted ear drum. Surprised mayweather hasn’t caused a heap

Posted May 19, 2014 12:49 am 


PEEJ

Auzbox, Oscar did make an excuse for that fight. He said he was weight drained and should of never tried to make 147. This from his mouth. They had to hook up IVs to him after the weight in just to get fluids in him. That is not an excuse that is fact.

Posted May 19, 2014 12:49 am 


PEEJ

A busted ear drum is much worse than a bloody nose. I can get a bloody nose by picking my nose.

Posted May 19, 2014 12:47 am 


PEEJ

So then Pac making excuses in the first Morales fight or in the first Marquez fight means he is a loser then?

Posted May 19, 2014 12:47 am 


The Truth

Put PAC back on the juice and bulk up like his master JMM and then we’ll have a fight.

Posted May 19, 2014 12:46 am 


The Truth

GBP said they are actually exploring the possibility of Canelo vs Pacquiao.I hope it happens so Canelo can kick his ass and have the Pactards make all the excuses in the world for there hero…..Plz make it happen.

Posted May 19, 2014 12:44 am 


Auzbox

And no brains you go on about may s win against canelo, which was a fight in his fifth division. PAC has fought up 8. Lets see mayweather fight in an 8th division and see how he goes hey

Posted May 19, 2014 12:42 am 


Auzbox

Sorry truth canelo can’t even make 154 and never will again so him and PAC in the same cobversation considering PAC is a natural 135-140 fighter shows how small your brain is

Posted May 19, 2014 12:40 am 


Auzbox

Tumbo prob sits at home replaying the PAC KO with a box of tissues. Sorry buddy he lost his next fight not even any consistency. He doesn’t want any piece of PAC for good reason. Tried to take Bradley out so he didn’t have to fight PAC again but failed miserably now can’t sleep cause prob has to face PAC again. Prov called him out still no answer

Posted May 19, 2014 12:39 am 


The Truth

Canelo isn’t slow he’s actually pretty fast and his combos and defense is better than Pacman.

Posted May 19, 2014 12:38 am 


The Truth

Pacquiao vs a 170 PD Canelo.Who wins that Auzbox???

Posted May 19, 2014 12:36 am 


amor

Te tumbo, still dwelling on that classic example of a lucky punch huh!? Hoping no 5th because you’re afraid jmm can’t duplicate that! Dude you have MORE chance winning the lottery 2x that jmm winning that fight! Alvarado, at best, a b level boxer decked your hero almost 2x and how much did jmm make? Keep praying dude! LMFAO!

Posted May 19, 2014 12:35 am 


Auzbox

Dela Hoya doesn’t make excuses so don’t make them for him. Fighters don’t make excuses which says a lot about you. Making excuses for all pacs good wins. PAC is fighting 7 divisions from where he started at welter. He also is a natural 135-140 guy who chooses to fight up in weight at a risk against the best fighters in the past decade which PAC has that title. And if you are going to diffuse his decade award diffuse floyds p4p king title cause that’s just a made up title as well.

Posted May 19, 2014 12:34 am 


amor

Te tumbo, are you an IDIOT or what!?Who doesn’t know here on esb that you’re a pac hater!? LMFAO! Sunday night dude, don’t drink too much!!! Hahaha!

Posted May 19, 2014 12:29 am 


Auzbox

Ha ha busted ear drum are you serious. That’s when the air gets compressed to ear which means nothing in boxing at all. Easy for hatton to make excuses but the facts are the facts. Only losers make excuses

Posted May 19, 2014 12:29 am 


PEEJ

Auzbox, Pac beat fighters Floyd had already beaten. Hatton was crushed against Floyd, didn’t train right for Pac this is documented. Oscar was drained, no fault to Pac that was Oscars fault but fact remains he was drained. Yeah so he beat Cotto worse that Floyd. Floyd got hit less times and only had a bloody nose while Pac had a busted ear drum and got him more times in less rounds than Floyd did. Floyd still beat Marquez much worse than Pac could ever do. Not to mention name other fighters who have held multiple belts at the same time in different weight class or who has actually held the Lineal Championship Belts in more than 1 weight class at the same time?

Posted May 19, 2014 12:24 am 


PEEJ

Pac isn’t KOing anybody right now either. And that is ridiculous. Pac is a power puncher, Floyd has never been a power puncher. Floyd has never been knocked out though and Pac has. That speaks a lot there.

Posted May 19, 2014 12:21 am 


PEEJ

Pac has never beaten Marquez easily, he has always had trouble as he has always had trouble with counter punchers and boxers. He will have trouble with Marquez again. They should be 2 and 2 now but unfortunately that is not the case.

Posted May 19, 2014 12:20 am 


Auzbox

To bad mayweather can’t KO anyone and he fights up 4 divisions where he started from. PAC is up 7 divisions from where he started and he has plenty of KOs. You need to stop living in the past tumbo great fighters would have gone on to more big wins after the PAC KO but he got beat by Bradley, Bradley didn’t even break a sweat

Posted May 19, 2014 12:13 am 


The Truth

Canelo would beat Pacquiao and everybody else he fought accept maybe De LA hoya.Pacquiao is the PED cheater and Mayweather would still beat him.Pactards wanna see a real beast then give Mayweather some PEDs.Could you imagine Mayweather with PED POWER omg…….Put both of them in the ring juiced…PAC would get KTFO.

Posted May 19, 2014 12:04 am 


te tumbo

“Everyone here at esb knows that!” (lol) a desperate cry for help. can somebody please help poor little Amor out?

Posted May 18, 2014 11:55 pm 


te tumbo

“PAC is always outweighed . . .” but not v. Marquez who FLOORED Pacquiao* for good.

Posted May 18, 2014 11:54 pm 


te tumbo

AUZBOX, Pacquiao* is 1-1 v. Bradley. so his superiority isn’t officially established and please don’t undermine your own logic by insisting that Pacquiao* was robbed in the first fight. that would be like saying that Marquez was robbed in EVERY-Single-One of his bouts v. Pacquiao* that didn’t end by DEVASTATING KO. meanwhile, Bradley only defeated Marquez by SD in a fight that could have easily gone the other way and Pacquiao* can only attract flies these days. he either accepts a fifth bout on Marquez’s terms or he doesn’t Reeeeally want to face Marquez again and who can blame him? Marquez is just beginning to floor full-sized welter after DEMOLISHING the only other feather-welter in the division.

Posted May 18, 2014 11:52 pm 


Auzbox

Who earns the most money means nothing to us, it doesn’t help our bank balance. He was guaranteed 32 million not 42. And if the ppv sales are as reported they will be lucky to beat pacs ppv numbers with a loaded card. PAC got all the numbers on his own. Also the IRS doesn’t effect us either so whether PAC owes or how much doesn’t define who is the better fighter. PAC is the second biggest star in boxing still. You can’t discredit he beat a top p4p guy that’s just the facts, he is not done yet. Floyd is talking retirement

Posted May 18, 2014 11:47 pm 


mansworld

Auzbox the difference in ppvs numbers is Floyd gets a guaranteed purse 42 million to fight Marcos. And another percentage of the ppvs its in his contract which was 30 million he made 70 million to fight Marcos do the math. Manny has a guaranteed purse as well for Bradley II it was around 20 million. Problem is Manny owes the IRS so they took the whole thing not to mention Arum is taking all of the ppvs. 800,000 or 8 million ppvs mean nothing it you have snakes and leaches Manny is broke guy. Floyd made 300 million since leaving top rank you piss and moan but study history Arum is the biggest snake in the game him and Don King the object of the game is to become your own promoter and have your own band like Oscar, Floyd and Bernard Hopkins have done Manny is destined to end up like Mike Tyson and countless others to made hundered of millions of dollars without a dam thing to show for it. You cannot compare Floyd to Manny. One has a owner and one call his own shots….

Posted May 18, 2014 11:39 pm 


Auzbox

And if you go on how you put it peej. PAC beat hatton, Hoya, cotto 10 times worse so what your saying is mayweather does if he fights PAC? I like that theory and tend to agree

Posted May 18, 2014 11:35 pm 


Auzbox

Pretty wasteful writing manny leads Marquez in the record books 2-1-1. As for top fights he just beat the 3rd beat guy on the planet so his skills are still doing ok. Mayweather looked very bearable against maidana, maidana didn’t have one little discolouration or mark to his face. Pretty poor a pound for pound king can’t mark a guys face who isn’t even rated p4p

Posted May 18, 2014 11:33 pm 


Auzbox

I’m pretty sure 75 percent of people bag PAC for fighting him so they would think that he is a c level guy. Terrible was harsh but he has beaten everyone he had faced apart from PAC

Posted May 18, 2014 11:31 pm 


Ok

Manny has looked very beatable in his last 5 fights no KOs and he was KTFO by Marquez pactards are delusional to think anyone is afraid of him much less Floyd, Manny is not the same as 09. No big fights can be made for your boy Manny as long as Arum has him just think what a fight with Maidana, Danny Garcia or even Porter could do for his career do we really need to see Marquez 5 I guess the theory is to make Manny keep fighting this old Mexican until he wins? Pure trash bring on Floyd thats the fight everyone wants to see…

Posted May 18, 2014 11:30 pm 


Auzbox

Well no cause PAC leads 2-1-1 and fought Marquez at his weight not 20 pounds heavier. Facts are PAC beat a top 3 p4p and floyd struggled with a guy that isn’t inside the top 25. Floyd doesn’t want a rematch and by the looks of the ppv numbers with a loaded card show time might be against a second also

Posted May 18, 2014 11:29 pm 


PEEJ

Rios is not terrible. That is a terrible statement. He is just limited in his skills. He is only a brawler.

Posted May 18, 2014 11:29 pm 


PEEJ

So that means nothing. Bradley has never fought Maidana. I think he would have the same trouble. And when they rematch lets see if Floyd has that same trouble. But then I could easily say Floyd easily handled Marquez and Marquez beat Pac so Floyd would easily handle Pac. That is how it works right?

Posted May 18, 2014 11:20 pm 


Auzbox

PAC is always outweighed so that statement is floored. Mayweather said he trained the best he could and fought his best. maidana was just as good as mayweather. Talking about PAC 15 years ago no one cares he was learning on the job. He got caught by Marquez but then schooled Bradley where Marquez was chasing air. May v Marquez means nothing when he gained 20 pound and stood in front of him all night. PAC fights him at his best weight and will beat him again come November

Posted May 18, 2014 10:45 pm 


Hecdog

Marquez sure had acne all over his chest. Hmm…..I wonder where that came from?????

Posted May 18, 2014 10:41 pm 


Danni

Floyd would beat Bradley because Bradley is a boxer. Even at 37, Floyd is still the best pure boxer in the game and nobody at 147 is beating him in a boxing match. That’s why Maidana who did once upon a time (prior to Garcia/Ariza) fight it out as well as “Box”…he just went straight out balls out fighting with heavy pressure to make sure Floyd wasn’t in a boxing match but a fight. That’s what Roach’s plan was with Pac…to go right after Floyd and just not stop.

Posted May 18, 2014 10:40 pm 


SREDMOND

Difference between the 37 year old Mayweather and PAC on a hard night Mayweather WINS an MD, on a Hard night Pacquiao gets knocked Cold and needs a year to get his marbles back.. Pacs a great fighter but he gets gotten to..

Posted May 18, 2014 10:37 pm 


SREDMOND

Auzbox, Maidana having a better than expected night and still LOSING does not negate the overall perfection of FMJs career he lost ONE card in 46 career fights, 5 weight classes, 22 World Title fights.. Manny Pacquiao has been stopped 3x most recently by a guy Mayweather toyed with, Floyd ALWAYS finds a way to win and stay in his feet, the guys Floyd is dealing with now are coming to the Ron 15-20 pounds heavier than PAC who would be a piece of cake (Canelo, Maidana, Cotto, Ortiz) all in the 160’s.. The Mayweather riddle remains unsolved, sprinkle a little Marquez in PAC and he’s in a pure nightmare

Posted May 18, 2014 10:35 pm 


Auzbox

Happy no one hides from the fact PAC was KO d by Marquez but that’s the past, Bradley had an easy night with Marquez since then and yeh Alvarado beat rios but rios also KO d Alvarado also and it seems like tumbo thinks that Marquez KO over PAC is better than the decision wins for PAC. So really tumbo would think that the stoppage over Alvarado is better than the decision Alvarado win

Posted May 18, 2014 10:33 pm 


amor

Te tumbo, it’s ok fan boy!!! Your hate for manny is very obvious. Everyone here at esb knows that! I just don’t understand when you say jmm would ktfo pac if #5 happens and then you hope no #5! That’s weird!!! Esb understands your concern about jmm. You should be happy for him he gets paid again!!!

Posted May 18, 2014 10:33 pm 


Hecdog

Ped Man Marquez as we all know used his infamous strength and conditioning coach to help him with the nutritional mix, and the HBO commentators were in awe of his power, HMM…..How funny that is that no one is questioning a 40 year old man that is physically declining coming up with this new power. Wake up people how many times do I have to point out this guy’s secret to his rejuvenated power. Wake up and smell the coffee. There was no testing for the fight. Angel Hereida, the PED supplier to the USA Olympic track and Field Team is on tape saying he could mask ANYTHING. Pay attention to Ped Man’s back and forth “I will fight Manny, no I won’t fight Manny” The guy is in sad shape. First he says he will never fight Manny again. He then says he might fight Manny again. He goes back and forth Classic brain damage due to the repeated hits to the head. He’s been knocked down in his last 5 fights. The special nutritional mix Hereida has him on is only doing more damage to him. Remember his temper tantrums with Hereida while working out with the medicine ball? Come on people, have you seen this guy during the last two years. The last few times I saw him train live told me all I needed to know. This man has many people fooled, but one day soon, he will be exposed. Manny Pacquiao on the other hand is an incredible athlete. Watch his movie “MANNY” and you’ll see he was born a puncher. Same build, no changes and same power. Duran was the same way. Both true punchers that are born. Tyson and Julian Jackson were the same. Marquez on the other hand has had help without a doubt. What kind of help you ask. If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck and quacks like a duck. It’s a duck. And as far as Manny Pacquiao and his fear of needles goes, that’s very normal to hear. Please people, I hate needles myself and I have to be practically restrained for me to get a flu shot. There is such a thing as people being afraid of needles as there is people being afraid to fly or afraid of heights. Manny Pacquiao is a legend that is an honorable man that would never cheat. A man of God setting the example for everyone. A man that has never failed a test. And a man that did not hire Angel Hereida then lied to the media about it. Now that’s a guy you never trust.

Posted May 18, 2014 10:32 pm 


Happyboy

Hecdog – Alvarado beat Rios. Any reason why Pac selects to fight the loser while JMM selects the winner either than the fact that JMM is the real deal that KTFO of Pacman.

Posted May 18, 2014 10:30 pm 


Auzbox

Peej mayweather struggled really bad with maidana. Floyd tried his best and couldn’t even mark him, Bradley is better than maidana

Posted May 18, 2014 10:28 pm 


PEEJ

Sorry Tyson Floyd would beat Bradley. Easily at that.

Posted May 18, 2014 10:27 pm 


Auzbox

And remember rios stopped Alvarado so Marquez shouldn’t think it’s a great win, cause rios is terrible and Alvarado being stopped by him makes Alvarado even more terrible

Posted May 18, 2014 10:18 pm 


Auzbox

Tumbo Marquez will fight once more so no he wouldn’t be abliged to fight porter. As I said Bradley beat Marquez easy

Posted May 18, 2014 10:17 pm 


Auzbox

Get one thing straight. Porter doesn’t beat Bradley and PAC disposed of him easy

Posted May 18, 2014 10:15 pm 


te tumbo

“You’re HOPING pac would lose to porter thus marquez gets saved from a total beatdown courtesy of pac . . .” because the porter that defeats Pacquiao* has no chance of defeating Marquez? interesting convoluted theory, AMOR(?). after all, Marquez would still be obligated to pursue the fifth title v. whoever wins between him and Pacquiao*. so what risk is Marquez avoiding other than having to KTFO of Pacquiao* once again?

Posted May 18, 2014 10:12 pm 


Hecdog

Tark my friend, Marquez looke dgreat last night ONLY because as I mentioned earlier, he was fighting a beat up, slow, no defense fighter in Alvarado. Anyone could look great against Alvardo, but the truth is, Marquez selected this guy for a reason. Alvarado couldn’t get out of the way of a punch, and somehow managed to floor Marquez. Hitting a heavy bag can make anyone look good. Marquez would get rattled if he dare fight the legendary Manny Pacquiao.

Posted May 18, 2014 10:11 pm 


Auzbox

Porter smashes Marquez and so does thurman, Marquez would never fight those guys. Alvarado is a leadfoot fighter. Nothing but a tune up, hopefully he fights PAC again so the score can read 3-1-1

Posted May 18, 2014 10:10 pm 


Auzbox

Sredmond your ob an idiot, PAC not on floyds level but maidana is he nearly beat floyd. A guy that was beaten by khan nearly beat floyd and didn’t even have a mark on his face haha better off playing tennis more chance of getting hurt LMAO

Posted May 18, 2014 10:08 pm 


amor

Te tumbo, “pac vs porter then winner gets marquez”??? You’re HOPING pac would lose to porter thus marquez gets saved from a total beatdown courtesy of pac. It’s very obvious dude!!!! You’re praying/hoping there wont be a 5th fight!!! That’s UNDERSTANDABLE!!! don’t worry too much, esb knows! LMFAO!

Posted May 18, 2014 10:04 pm 


SREDMOND

Marquez lost to Mayweather because despite his greatness he is not of Floyd’s level nor is Pacquaio..JMM could not even land in the taller Mayweather who was SHORTER and lighter than Alvarado last night… Marquez himself said “Mayweathers defense is incredible” and he had no interest in a rematch muscles or not… Mayweather is an outta this world overall talent, Marquez technical abilities compensate for the athletic gifts PAC and Floyd were born with.. No excuses for losing 12 rounds to a guy except he’s WAYY better than you FACTS

Posted May 18, 2014 10:01 pm 


Auzbox

PAC doesn’t need to earn a Marquez fight tumbo that sounds rediculous. Marquez was schooled by Bradley and almost dropped in the last when Bradley was most tired. PAC disposed of Bradley easily. Marquez will get beaten in a fifth and guys like you will say he was to old it doesn’t count. Facts are the score reads 2-1-1 no matter how you cut it

Posted May 18, 2014 10:01 pm 


Anonymous

Tumbo, are you referring to the same “classic” marquez who was beaten, humiliated aside from humbled by Bradley?? That marquez*?

Posted May 18, 2014 9:57 pm 


PEEJ

Matthews sorry but Pac doesn’t do VADA either.

Posted May 18, 2014 9:52 pm 


K.C.

Hummm, a lot of acne for a 40yr old… peds

Posted May 18, 2014 9:15 pm 


SREDMOND

Anonymous, GGG has a ton of KOs against NOBODIES call me when some real names appear on his ledger, the quality of his opponents had not justified the hype.. He is the Joe Mesi of the MW division, we have seen you Canelo step up against Trout, Mayweather and now Lara.. When is GGG gonna stop acting like he is 24 and get some real names under his belt?

Posted May 18, 2014 9:11 pm 


Mike Tyson

See tunbo. Got that right jmm wins and he get a knock down by the right hand and follow with the uppercut his favorite punch Ian now 7 wins 1 lost

Posted May 18, 2014 9:10 pm 


SREDMOND

Marquez is such a “ducker” that his last 4 fights included an ATG who is younger that he knocked cold and Tim Bradley who was undefeated and on everyone’s P4P list… Calling Marquez a coward is an offense to boxing thean had NEVER laid down nor given up, only guy that dominated him is one of the best pure boxers in the history of the sport.. (Floyd Mayweather Jr)

Posted May 18, 2014 9:07 pm 


Mike Tyson

The Mad Scientist. You can’t compare Bradley to how PAC look. Bradley was 1# undefeated, pridefully, Floyd wouldn’t beat him, he have to out work Bradley . Ac and Bradley throw 1,000 punch per fight about 60-80 punch a R.D.
Bradley ran over Alexander UD. Alex ran over maidana Floyd need a rematch with maidana a S.D fight. LoL………….

Posted May 18, 2014 9:06 pm 


te tumbo

correction: . . . Pacquiao* avoids Mayweather, Marquez challenges Mayweather and insists that the bout continue even after Floyd reneged on the agreed-upon weight.

Posted May 18, 2014 9:04 pm 


SREDMOND

Mike Tyson, Porter brings no money to the table for the 41 year old fighter I know the economics of boxing elude “Blue Collar” thinkers but Porter was VERY recently best know for being a TOUGH sparring partner, he did well to beat Alexander who has 2 gifts in his resume (Kotelnik and Mattysee) but he cannot call shots with the GREAT JMM because he stopped Paulie.. This is not “Pop goes the weasel” where anyone who looks good for a min dictates to Marquez

Posted May 18, 2014 9:02 pm 


te tumbo

Alvarado couldn’t handle a smaller welter accustomed to featherweight handspeed. it’s also why Marquez looked so quick compared to a big and lumbering Alvarado. his timing and precision is classic Marquez. otherwise, this was the same Marquez that convincingly outboxed and outpunched Manny* in III but not the guided KO-missile who LEVELED “Napman*” like a demolitions expert in IV. that was prepared special for Pacquiao* that fight-night. the KO fight-plan that Marquez publicly declared prior to their bout. ultimately, Pacquiao* is the easiest fight for Marquez but i can also understand why he doesn’t want to suddenly grant Pacquiao* what he needs after Pacquiao* disrespected and strung Marquez along for Eight (8) F’n Years(?!). besides, that rivalry is OVER. whoever has his fifth title becomes the logical next opponent. it’s time for Manny* to step-up and earn the redemption bout that he needs to avoid becoming a footnote in his arch-rival’s career. Pacquiao* v. Porter unites WBO and IBF around the same waist. winner gets Marquez. is anybody opposed to Manny* doing some of the heavy-lifting for a change? Pacquiao* avoids lightweight, Marquez unites lightweight. Pacquiao* avoids Mayweather, Marquez challenges Mayweather and continues that the bout continue even after Floyd reneged on the agreed-upon weight. good thing for Boxing since everyone would be saying that Mayweather was trying to “avoid ” Marquez. anyway, Pacquiao* can’t close the show or score the KO, Marquez FLATTENS Pacquiao* like roadkill. Marquez is truly Greater.

Posted May 18, 2014 9:02 pm 


Mike Tyson

SREDMOND, Marquez duck porter. After Marquez wanted Bradley . He said ok I settled for a belt, porter was ask in a interview , and he said he gladly fight Marquez let’s do it. He can have my belt. We never heard back from Marquez. I mention a few times jmm duck porter .

Posted May 18, 2014 8:56 pm 


Anonymous

SREDMOND does the same after a GGG win.

Posted May 18, 2014 8:50 pm 


Anonymous

Jmm should be called zit man from taking to much peds.

Posted May 18, 2014 8:48 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark gets on the bandwagon the SECOND. A guy wins I have seen him go nuts over Khan after Judah, Trout after Cotto, Canelo after Trout, Porter after Malignaggi and now Provodnikov and Lara…Suddenly Marquez who at 41 has fought everyone at times to his detriment is craft ring his career to avoid Provo who lost to Bradley WORSE than Old Marquez did? Yeah right Tark tell is ANOTHER

Posted May 18, 2014 8:41 pm 


SREDMOND

Marquez did NOT and has not ducked anyone 4 fights PAC, Mayweather, Bradley… Stupid Tark thinks he’s leery of Provodnikov which is silly, Maarquez wants a 5th title and if he wants a serious paycheck only Manny provides that at TR get real.. Provodnikov is a tough 140 pounder, Marquez KOed an ATG at 147 learn boxing Tark and stop listening to your own thoughts

Posted May 18, 2014 8:37 pm 


SuckerPunch

Hecdog-JMM looked better against alvarado than pedquiao did against. Brandon rios. And anyone since he had been off the juice really

Posted May 18, 2014 8:26 pm 


1-2

And Marquez is pretty close to the end. 147 is loaded with young beasts and to match Marquez up with any of those guys at this time wouldn’t be a good idea. This coming from a Marquez fan. Brandon Rios next for him

Posted May 18, 2014 8:20 pm 


1-2

Hecdog- Manny was the original one afraid of needles. Why not call him PedMan. Do you remember that? I like manny but his fans are dillusional.

Posted May 18, 2014 8:16 pm 


TARK

Hecdog.., nobody reads your diatribes about how good Pacman is and how bad Marquez is. Nobody. They glance at it and say, “same crap as always.”

Marquez looked brilliant last night but he was boxing a chump. A man who gets hit with everything any good boxer throws. JMM ducked Provodnikov to fight the guy Ruslan battered from ring post to ring post until he quit.
I believe Provodnikov didn’t want to KO Alvarado, but wanted to brutalize him as much as possble. Provodnikov would have supplied Marquez with a worthy opponent.

Alvarado has the dumbest chief second in the history of Boxing. He must be his trainer … and he’s a bad one.

Posted May 18, 2014 8:07 pm 


Ok

Hec dog you claim everyone is afraid of Manny but you can you tube all the welters have been calling Manny out from Floyd who sent Manny a contract in 09 that he turned down. Danny Garcia, Broner, Porter and everyone wants to fight him Problem is Arum is not having it. He refuses to let him fight outside of top rank so his options are very few. Ruslan or Marquez 5 thats about it

Posted May 18, 2014 7:55 pm 


enough already

Poor hec dog your boy Manny ran from a chevy van only to run in the path of a Mack truck by the name of Marquez he is going to kill Manny this time you talk all this idol and nutt hugging but you dont know boxing or styles. Manny leaves himself open to counter JMM has his number he is able to counter Manny from all this akward angles he throws from. Thats how he got KTFO not from PEDS no one buy the BS you post Manny was great in 09 yes since then what has he done? Rios was garbage Bradley was winning until his feather fisted ass ran out of gas, You cry piss and moan Floyd when he faced better fighters than Manny not to mention he walked all over Mannys nemesis Marquez the same guy Manny can never dominate. Instead of drolling idolizing and nutt hugging post some knowledge and people might go with you.

Posted May 18, 2014 7:50 pm 


Hecdog

Juan Manuel Marquez other know as “Ped Man” looked awful last night. He gets hit with everything. He leads with his head, and his feet are awful. And please Ped Man fans don’t try and say that this win was something special because it wasn’t. We all knew Mike Alvarado was made to order for Marquez. Mike Alvarado is a super nice young man, but he is also a fighter that has never had any defense, has slow hands and feet, has been taking lots of punishment in his last 3 fights versus Rios and Provodnikov. A human body can only take so much punishment before it begins to wither away. I hope you guys can notice Alvarado’s slow speech. He is a tough fighter tha really needs to retire, and last night proved it. Even so, Ped Man Marquez was dropped once and on the way to another before the bell rang. Ped Man Marquez had his moments only because Alvarado is as slow as molasses. Please don’t try and paint a picture like the HBO guys did. This fight was more about Alvarado’s decline than anything Marquez did and that’s the truth. The most humiliating and embarrassing moment last night was Marquez avoiding at all costs the commitment to fight Manny Pacquiao a 5th time. He simply doesn’t want it. The man wants to cradle the tarnished victory over Manny instead of doing the right thing any real fighter would do which is to grant Manny Pacquiao a rematch. Fear echoed throughout the tv sets as Marquez wanted nothing to do with giving Manny another fight. This is a man that knows he couldn’t beat the legendary Manny Pacquiao again because Freddie has already said he would have testing 24 hrs a day around the clock. Marquez and Hereida are fully aware that this time around they will be monitored every step of the way, and they will not take a chance. A true sign of a coward just as Floyd Mayweather has also shown. Ped Man Marquez may have won the fight last night, but his interview lost him the war. Let’s see Marquez fight Provodnikov. Oh yeah, he declined to fight him several times. Manny Pacquiao ran from no one. He gave Ped Man Marquez 4 fights. Ped Man Marquez is tarnished forever. He told the world last night that he wants to live on his last victory over Manny Pacquiao and would rather not give Manny Pacquiao another fight. Ped Man Marquez needs to retire for good now. He has given into the nightmares and fear of facing the greatest fighter of all time, Manny Pacquiao ever again.

Posted May 18, 2014 7:37 pm 


enough already

GGG is a ducker and his resume sucks next…

Posted May 18, 2014 7:36 pm 


tony

That sucks, They pretty much announced last night that triple G will not be facing Chavezm was looking forward to that one

Posted May 18, 2014 7:15 pm 


matthews

Jmm ducked khan at 140. Bad style match up for jmm too.

Posted May 18, 2014 7:12 pm 


Jay rock

Marquez vs khan that’s a great fight

Posted May 18, 2014 7:02 pm 


NAZARETH OF GONZOBORN

No one is mentioning this but i think Amir Khan vs Marquez will be a very intriguing fight. I think fans would love to see that too.

Posted May 18, 2014 6:51 pm 


TARK

That’s not the point Jack Jones… The point is he ducked Provodnikov to fight the non-boxer who Provodnikov trashed.

Posted May 18, 2014 6:31 pm 


Jack Jones

It doesn’t matter Marquez always get dropped. But yet he wins. So why are people pointed out he got dropped. I think its remarkable considering thats he’s approaching 41.

Posted May 18, 2014 6:23 pm 


Denise Alvarez

The fight started off slow and eventually became more exciting.Marquez still has it and Alvarado should change occupations,he looked nervous and didnt want to get hit. This is boxing-you dont come in after 2 losses and wait around to decide what to do. He needed to prove to us boxing fans, that he is still a Latino warrior and can still box and brawl like he did with Rios.He should of went for it with JMM and at least went down trying. His corner kept telling him to step it up.Now he is going to known as being”shop worn”.

Posted May 18, 2014 6:16 pm 


TARK

Fair enough. Marquez ducked Provodnikov in favor of the guy Ruslan trashed.

Posted May 18, 2014 6:15 pm 


Macho Gabacho

Marquez looked good against a b-level fighter, although he still got dropped. Pacquiao looked good against the #3 p4p fighter. Who had the tougher challenge? Taking that into consideration, which win was more impressive?

Posted May 18, 2014 6:11 pm 


matthews

And that was a garbage fight to celebrate when Provo was begging for a shot. He ducked him.

Posted May 18, 2014 5:47 pm 


matthews

Jmm was willing to drink his own piss to get an advantage. That’s all that needs to be said. He is balking on a 5th fight because he knows testing will be in place most likely VADA. Testing is gonna be in place for any belt holder or fighter worth anything he decides to fight.

Posted May 18, 2014 5:45 pm 


eric

Is that postol dude really as good as he looked or was it he beat up a bum ?

Posted May 18, 2014 5:39 pm 


amor

Kudos to jmm & his fans! Impressive win against a fighter who is at best a b level fighter. Pac vs jmm 5, here we come! Jmm needs that retirement money! Lol! Jmm fans, start praying, hoping he’ll retire and turn down a 5th installment of the pac/jmm saga.Lmfao!

Posted May 18, 2014 5:21 pm 


The Prince

From what I’m seeing, Marquez is getting better with every fight, like Maidana. Pacquaio is now mentally gun shy and paranoid of counter-punches. Bradley fought a stupid and possibly corrupt fight, but he still was able to hurt Manny early in the fight. All Marquez would have to do is land a couple of those crisp counter-punches we saw last night and lights-out Pacquaio all over again. And Pacquiao doesn’t have one shot knockout power.

Posted May 18, 2014 5:01 pm 


The Mad Scientist

So we’re all in agreement Marquez looked like the great legend he is..pactards on the other hand are left feeling like insecure little girls wondering why Marquez isn’t ripe for the taking thus steroid talk ( how ironic)

Posted May 18, 2014 4:43 pm 


Tan

JMM looked good doing it too. He should have vs a fighter like MA but I still give him credit for taking care of business.

Posted May 18, 2014 3:34 pm 


New Found Glory

Look how Marquez hit Alvarado with a sledge hammer punch, that is some brutal punch. I don’t think PAC has that ability to knock guys like that in higher division and that has been the norm for him ever since he moved up in weight. It will be a tough fight for Pacquiao and his diminished punching power will disadvantage him tremendously because that was once of his tools in winning his fights. Take that away from him and he is left little, like Delillah cutting the hair of Samson in the story of the bible.

Posted May 18, 2014 3:31 pm 


Macho Gabacho

Marquez has proven he has the power to take Pacquiao out. But don’t forget, Pacquiao was busting Marquez up pretty good before “the punch”.

Posted May 18, 2014 3:00 pm 


SLIM

PacMan is gonna get knocked out again. Too sleepy to fight Floyd.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:57 pm 


New Found Glory

I think it would be fair to say that a Marquez vs Pacquiao will be a tough fight for Pacquiao and Pacquiao would be disadvantaged, seeing that Pacquiao’s KO power has diminished while Marquez’s power has increased temendously. Pacquiao will be the underdog in terms of punching power.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:46 pm 


New Found Glory

Pacquiao should better be careful with this new Marquez coz he seemed to have a dangerous and lethal KO power. Looking back in their last fight, the knockdown of Pacquiao before Pacquiao was knocked out cold was surprising. Didn’t expect that and last night with that knockdown of Alvarado by Marquez cemented my view that we are looking at a new Marquez. A powerful KO puncher in higher divisions and at his age of 40, he is very dangerous and lethal to anyone out there.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:43 pm 


CAM

Great fight. I would like to see him vs Thurman

Posted May 18, 2014 2:40 pm 


New Found Glory

While Pacquiao’s KO power diminished as he moved up in weight, Marquez’s KO power seemed to have increased in higher division and at his age, 40 seems to be the new 30. That knock down of Alvarado by Marquez looks so powerful like one of the Sopranos muscles hitting a baseball bat to the head of Al Pacino.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:30 pm 


K2 Fan

Maybe now we won’t have to see hype about Alvarado every other post !

Posted May 18, 2014 2:10 pm 


Titopa

Marquez is a TRUE fighter! I don’t know how anyone can’t like him.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:44 pm 


Hecdog

Marquez looked fantastic last night.
Alvarado ain’t exactly a bum, yet Marquez was able to make him look like an amateur with the whole package… speed, power, defense, head-movement, footwork, combinations, fakes, counters and superior ring generalship.
I can honestly say Marquez’ legs have not looked that good and sturdy since the 3rd Pacquiao fight in 2011.
Even when Alvarado rattled Marquez(not the knockdown, but the near knockdown after that), he did not look shaky like he did in the 4th Pacquiao fight or at the end of the Bradley fight… he looked solid, fluid, and half his 40 years in there with a supposedly bigger man.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:28 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Pacquiao will forever be gun shy against Juan Manuel Marquez any time they fight from here on out..a few well placed right hands will have Manny on bambi legs wich last night’s version of Marquez shouldn’t have a problem getting done once again,, just watch if a 5th fight does happen ..

Posted May 18, 2014 1:06 pm 


PEEJ

Marquez looked good last night. Doubt he would get battered by Pac since Pac has never been able to do that before

Posted May 18, 2014 12:43 pm 


Ted “Theodore” Logan

He looked good against a caveman. He’d get battered against PAC or May.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:17 pm 



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