Wanted. Russian fighter requires non US or EU opponent to further faltering career of national icon. Must be available to work in Russian Federation. Bonus payabe for derogatory references to Ukranian politician Vitali Klitchko at the request of the office of the President Vlad PPosted May 4, 2014 8:53 am
A fight between two losers, hurray!Posted May 4, 2014 8:46 am
KL…Well said.I agree Charr just might be more hungry,and we dont know what that lost did to Povetkin,who was babied most of his career.Charr is less talented by enough…but hunger and desire can make up for alot.Plus if Povetkin is in a bad state of mind…who knows what could happen…kinda looking forward to this overall.Posted May 3, 2014 9:08 pm
Badger, I don’t think Povetkin beats Charr that easily.
I think that povetkin can beat charr easily and that the Ukraine belongs to Russia. Like Colorado and Arizona belongs to the USA. Thanks great prez Polk.Posted May 3, 2014 7:37 pm
Fry up – Learn to spell. Off has two “f”s. Fool.
K2 – Your ability to misquote is impressive. You must work in media. Go away.Posted May 3, 2014 4:21 pm
Virg ; This is a boxing site , so I will keep this as brief as possible . As I mentioned before , you have no clue about
ukraine.if the place had any money the yanks would be in there helping out.Posted May 3, 2014 2:17 pm
hey guys is this a boxing website or a political platform?? stick to sport ok and leave ur lousy politics at home..Posted May 3, 2014 1:50 pm
Charr cannot winPosted May 3, 2014 1:17 pm
Good fight…most picking Povetkin,some thinking Charr could pull the upset.But Charr had a very tough fight with Johnson…some even thought Johnson won,but Povetkin many thought lost to Huck.So it comes down to how these two are looking come fight night..who had a better camp,more motivatied.Could be alot closer then most think…overall a good match-up…but going with a Povetkin win here.But if Charr pulls out the win wont be shocked…not like Tyson-Douglas…Posted May 3, 2014 11:47 am
@ Adrian – you are very selective about which facts you choose to ignore or leave out. Crimea like Kosovo, has had autonomous rights/option for autonomy since Ukraine was gifted “independence” from Russia. When the central Govt was overthrown illegally the ethnic Russians could see the writing on the wall so to speak. Already the central government outlawed Russian as an official language and with the neo-nazi’s in their ranks one can only imagine how things would progress for the Russians living under them. Yes whilst the situation as far as conflict and death go is not the same as Kosovo was, are you so naive to think that the Russians of Crimea would have been treated fairly once the central govt established its authority over them? Do you honestly think that the governments of the EU and USA care about self determination? Only insofar as it allows them to roll out more NATO bases and tie more countries to a failing monetary system. I chose specifically not to mention Georgia as it requires a detailed discussion in itself. and again its not as black and white as one thinks. Do yourself a favor and read ‘Confessions of An Economic Hitman’ by John Perkins to get an idea of how these “popular uprisings and regime change actually work.Posted May 3, 2014 9:39 am
what you got to love about charr is he would fight a gorilla if it got him up the rankingsPosted May 3, 2014 8:21 am
Wazza , first of all Kosovo before Yugoslavia broke was a part of Yugoslav federation which had their parliament , constitution , police etc .. Until 1989 when milosevic came into Serbian power he occupied Kosovo and changed kosovo constitution which resulted in closing schools , media , sports etc..he kept Kosovo ‘ s people who are Albanians by ethnicity in isolation and pressure for a decade from 1989 until 1997 until milosevic finally decided to start openly ethnic cleansing of Kosovo thinking he can get away with it like he did in Bosnia and Croatia so after manny negotiations abd conferences milosevicin didn’t budge thinking the west won’t intervene in kosove too but they did and after 3 months of NATO camping milosevic finally signed a deal to get out of Kosovo and let peacekeepers come in and let the free election be held . And 8 years after milosevic international force go in Kosovo there were Many UN negotiations about Kosovo status and failur of RUSIA to agree about Kosovo referendum or anything else then Kosovo government declared independency in accordance with USA and EU .
Crimea was succeeded from Ukraine backed by Russians without any negotiation whatsoever and not even ONE Russian resident died by Ukrainian new government and in Kosovo died over 20 thousand civilians and years of negotiation before the independence happened which btw won a case in international court in Hague that rrusia sued in favor of the right of independence …
The huge irony is that the majority of Ukraine’s new govt. wouldn’t be allowed into Germany or the EU as the EU’s anti-Nazi/neo-nazi laws would prevent them from entering.Posted May 3, 2014 5:26 am
@ Jasper 1st I agree 100% it is a boxing site and 2nd – Shove it! If you don’t like or agree with what I say its your right, but I wasn’t the first to discuss it – others had mentioned it, I was merely putting my two cents in. I dont need to cut and paste to make valid points.Posted May 3, 2014 5:11 am
Wazza where did you cut and paste that from? Who gives a fu…k on a boxing board?Posted May 3, 2014 5:01 am
Good match-up; should be interesting to see where Charr really fits into all of this.
As for the political comments; 10 points to consider…
The EU and America’s focus should be the welfare of their own people, the restructuring of their financial sectors and economies before worrying about the Ukraine.Posted May 3, 2014 4:51 am
This is a chance for charr to prove how good he is or if he is just a journeymanPosted May 3, 2014 3:47 am
I can’t see why Charr is fighting in Russia. He should be boycotting the country.
Ukraine needs needs to step it up and jail all the separatists. Just slowly move east and arrest or shoot every separatist is using clubs or batons to smash protestors or people showing the Ukrainian flag. The Ukrainian authorities are moving way to slow — and encouraging all the agents Russia is sneaking into the country. These people are nothing more than insurgants. They want all, or the majority of Ukraine in Russian hands.
“The point of a gun was the only law that Liberty understood.”Posted May 3, 2014 1:17 am
I agree rod , and it’s funny how some klitchko haters were calling charr a bum before he faced klitchko but now they are giving him a chance to beat Povetkin , go figure…Posted May 3, 2014 12:56 am
This is a good fight. Charr is in the top 20 and comes to fight. Povetkin is the more skilled and will win by ud or a late tko but that is less likely. Good fightPosted May 3, 2014 12:34 am
UD – Don’t be so naive. It is blatantly the west that has stirred the pot over there, just like it does everywhere.”
You are either a pro putin cuuunt or just naive extreme liberal that belives in reptilian race!
Warren Buffett.., “Most of Wall Street, and many countries in the world, follow poor economic models. The model that works the best is putting people first. The best companies to invest in are those who are going to grow and prosper the most. They will grow your investments the fastest. One of the key indicators of managerial excellence is treating customers extremely well and treating employees even better.
Think of your competitors as valuable assets. They help build your industry and make you stronger. Whatever they do best try to do better. When they poach your employees you’re forced to raise wages. Funny, but that usually works out. The fact you’re paying the best helps you attract and retain the best people. Your company prospers even more because the best people find ways to do things better, faster, and more efficiently.
Unfortunately, the larger a company grows, beyond a certain point, the slower they grow and the fewer efficiency improvements they find it possible to achieve. The world is a finite place so there’ll never be an answer to that.
That’s why people who don’t have 10’s of billions to invest are better off in smaller and still rapidly growing companies. If their employees and customers are really happy with them you’re probably on to something you can hold for a while, and multiply your money.”Posted May 2, 2014 10:46 pm
Yet another example in an endless line of them of contenders facing each other with the exception of WilderPosted May 2, 2014 9:18 pm
So to briefly sum up the below rhetoric, West and Russia are in effect both bankrupt as one another. The West are white collar oppurtunists who use fighting for justice charade as a smoke screen to simply acquire more power indirectly, irony being moving towards a discreet and watered down version of the Soviet totalitarianism. Everyone under one nation, easier to govern, spy on, make money from.. in other words herding us like cattle.
So where does the common man stand, remain thick and be force fed society idealisms or try to be somewhat knowledgable and see the bigger picture. Publicly contest and disagree on unfairness, the elite double standards and keep reminding governments you cant fool us.. fu ck! gone of on a tangent.. lol but you get the idea.. the people above us in the hierarchy have there own agenda’s, so we can’t sit here and say its Russia’s fault or down to the West. It’s mans fault, that discovered power, then greed..Posted May 2, 2014 9:16 pm
And wealth in terms of money does not exist. The fact you hold it in such high esteem shows your stupidity. And why the hell would you emigrate away from a place with beautiful sunny beaches and hot Latino babes to go to Russia? Silly statement.Posted May 2, 2014 7:47 pm
The EU isn’t democratic. If you believe you live in a democratic country, whether it be the US, UK or in a country part of the EU, you are sadly mistaken. What you are given is a charade of true democracy. Russia, very much like China, operate in a very different way. Both are utterly corrupt and deceitful. But I believe based on the available evidence that the West is most definitely to blame for the state of Ukraine at this current time. And no, I’m not Russian. And Putin is a boss who rides bears through woods shirtless hunting deluded boxing bloggers such as yourselves. One day he will get you!Posted May 2, 2014 7:41 pm
Demon Lol if you are saying(wrongly) that EU isnt democratic then what is Russia then ?Posted May 2, 2014 6:35 pm
Demon : how healthy is the russian econemy. how good is the econemy of the common Russians ?. I dont think you find many people from Spain, Italy or Portugal who would want to emigrate to russia in hope for a better future.Posted May 2, 2014 6:31 pm
Obama is not Dubya.
He’s not ready to get involved in military conflicts that are unnecessary, protracted, open ended, do nothing but slaughter and disable thousands of people, destroy property, waste resources, drain taxpayers, incur unpayable debt for generations to come, weaken the dollar’s value, and create bitter, enduring enemies for the United States — just so war hawk defense contractors and war profiteers of every stripe can get rich.
This won’t escalate into world war unless Putin is a madman… which he’s not.Posted May 2, 2014 6:13 pm
Virg you are not happend to be russian are you ? Stop spreading the propaganda you get from Putin controlled media, no one else are buying this nonsens.
” If they invade Eastern Ukraine, there will be a major military conflict and NATO forces will come to their aid. Putin is flirting with starting a war that could easily escalate into WWIII — especially if the Western European powers and the U.S. get involved.” Do you really believe that the west is going to war with Russia? Currently U.S. troops in Afghanistan operate under overly restrictive rules of engagement (amber status: having the magazine loaded with the safety on but not having a round chambered as opposed to red status: having a round chambered and the safety off – that is, ready to fire). Yes, U.S. troops operate under amber status – they are not allowed to be ready to fire. I’m not sure, but I doubt that Putin is losing sleep over having to engage an enemy whose troops are not allowed to actually have a loaded weapon.Posted May 2, 2014 5:03 pm
And if you want to look at bullying mentality, simply look at the last 100 years of American and British foreign policy.Posted May 2, 2014 4:52 pm
Highly unlikely*Posted May 2, 2014 4:48 pm
Jaguar – Without a doubt the government in the Crimea is illegal. It wasn’t elected and was put in place by force. But then again, so is the new government in Kiev. Neither is legitimate. It is highly likely that a pro European political party would get into power by force and then allow an in or out vote. As soon as they secured power they were negotiating with the West for an alternative bailout fund from the IMF, which will result in further extreme poverty for its population. Once they are financially secure, expect them to apply for EU membership.
this is the biggest and strongest heavyweights in history, and the Klitschko brothers are the greatest of all times.Posted May 2, 2014 3:52 pm
keep the hw circus rolling.Posted May 2, 2014 3:29 pm
the uk is in a terrible state.i”am ashamed to be polish.Posted May 2, 2014 3:05 pm
My concern is the bullying mentality shown to its neighbours. Since the president had been offically/legitimately ousted by parliament the referendum held was illegal. Thus the occupation of Crimea illegal and for what reason? Protecting the russian speaking minority? You also mentioned due to the coup Russia retaliated… but why? This was a matter for the Ukranians. They had installed an interim president who I’m pretty much sure would have put a vote in place ‘for or against Europe’. Therefore all this drama and loss of life could have been avoided.Posted May 2, 2014 3:05 pm
Ok to reiterate I made it clear from the get go that one would have to be naive to think the West does not have an invested interest in the on goings of power play overseas. The truth is they cannot allow Russia to get any stronger than it already is, particularly when having friends such as Iran and other countries being so depandant upon Gazproms gas. The West need a foothold in every part of the world where they are subject to benefitting be it financially, territorially etc, under the worrying banner of ‘one nation’.Posted May 2, 2014 2:56 pm
Good match. Povetkin to win a decision.Posted May 2, 2014 2:35 pm
povetkin looks like the bored cop who just finished writing a loitering ticket for a local gang member. “i told you to stay off this corner raul. find something better to do with your time.” after he tucks his book away he farts and ambles towards the donut shop.
you need to be a little more excited to win at this levelPosted May 2, 2014 1:35 pm
This should be a good fightPosted May 2, 2014 1:27 pm
First off, Charr stands a good chance against Povetkin. He looked terrible against Huck, and hugged Wladimir all night long to not get KTFO.
Second off, the trouble in Ukraine started when the elected government said no to a planned EU association contract, including military “help”. After that, there was a coup d’etat, now Ukraine is splitting apart. Don’t blame Russia, the West started it.Posted May 2, 2014 1:25 pm
And Russia did not invade the Crimea. A referendum was conducted with the outcome being almost unanimously in support of the land being annexed from Ukraine and absorbed into Russian control. That referendum was conducted by government officials with no more legal power than those who yesterday reinstated conscription, which will be used to forcefully remove rebels. That in itself is somewhat ridiculous considering the last government was blasted for using deadly force on violent protesters in order to protect the elected officials and government buildings, after deadly force was originally used by those protesters against the defending police force.Posted May 2, 2014 1:13 pm
Many of Ukrainians want democracy? Is that the same democracy the West gave Egypt? LOL. An independent poll was conducted before the Western supported illegal coup took place that showed more support for closer ties with Russia than closer ties Europe. That poll was followed by the pro-Russian Ukrainian government in power for many a reason and the West retaliated when it didn’t get its own way. That is because the West demands that its influence is spread to every corner of the earth with capitalism reigning strong. Why else do you think we are operating in the middle east?
And last time I checked, the minority controlled the majority in terms of economic power. Many people live in poverty why those in power are incredibly wealthy. What government leader do you know of that has trouble putting food on the table?Posted May 2, 2014 1:05 pm
where can I watch this?Posted May 2, 2014 12:56 pm
Good fight, at least two contenders fighting each other. We need more of this, and it does seem to be picking up, which is a good sign. Picking Povetkin by UD.Posted May 2, 2014 12:52 pm
This is going to be a good one. I have Povetkin winning by round 8.Posted May 2, 2014 12:22 pm
Now Charr can prove how good he is in comparison to Vladimir Klitschko.Posted May 2, 2014 12:05 pm
Despite what you klit nuthuggers will say. Yes he was losing on the cards but #1 he was just off balance with the knockdown, #2 he was making the fight interesting. Again I understand he was losing the fight but he wasn’t doing half bad. After watching the fight over again (Charr vs Vitali) I can’t see any merit with those who say, “Charr just got saved from really getting his face beat in”Posted May 2, 2014 11:55 am
I got to say I’m starting to like Manuel Charr. At least he’s willing to get in there with guys you heard of. He should beat Povetkin. He’d have to KO povetkin though, can’t see him getting a decision.Posted May 2, 2014 11:53 am
ANOTHER JOKE HEAVYWEIGHT FIGHT.Posted May 2, 2014 11:39 am
EU was not beaten at the negotion table, the ousted president was simply a puppet of Russia and soley benefitting financially, look at the fools wealth/estate whilst many Ukranians are jobless. The reason why a coup took place was majority of Ukraine wanted to be part of Europe, but democracy does not exist when your president is a small pawn.
Topical analogy: Povetkin will bully and rough charr up the way Russia is doing so to Ukraine.Posted May 2, 2014 11:13 am
Bo Bo Olson
Should be a good fight….at first I’d thought Povetkin all the way, until I remember how Huck got robbed. I had Huck one round up or a draw.
Everyone knows that Russia is the instigator of these problems. First they invaded Crimea and now they’re building up their forces on the Eastern border and conducting regular military exercises. Russia has even been flying war planes over Ukrainian air space. If they invade Eastern Ukraine, there will be a major military conflict and NATO forces will come to their aid. Putin is flirting with starting a war that could easily escalate into WWIII — especially if the Western European powers and the U.S. get involved.Posted May 2, 2014 9:40 am
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)
Charr has to get past Povetkin before he can even dream about getting a fight with Wlad. And Al Pov is no joke.
Charr got stopped by old Vitali in the 4th and the only name he’s ever beaten is “Safety-Pin” Johnson.Posted May 2, 2014 9:20 am
Povetkin stops him late. Charr has a big heart, but Povetkin is well above his skill level. Povetkin was an Olympic Gold medalist and former heavy weight champ. Even Wlad had to hug his way to a victory against him.Posted May 2, 2014 9:11 am
Perfect ; Two Klitchko victoms , fighting each other !
Yet it all came from the EU being beaten at the negotiation table by Russia. The West didn’t like it, utterly destabilized Ukraine by supporting an illegal violent coup and Russia retaliated. And now here we are!
But yeah, as this is a boxing site, Povetkin by ko within nine roundsPosted May 2, 2014 9:07 am
Of course the west have an invested interest, you’d have to be naive to think overwise. However one cannot ignore the bullying tactics and complete lack or respect shown by Russia to it’s “neighbours”. Taking complete advantage of a distabalised Ukraine.
As for Charr, he won’t last 6 rounds…Posted May 2, 2014 9:00 am
UD – Don’t be so naive. It is blatantly the west that has stirred the pot over there, just like it does everywhere.Posted May 2, 2014 8:26 am
Great news know we will know at what level Charr is. Although i think Russia should be ignored as long as Puting tries to pull Ukrain apart.Posted May 2, 2014 8:10 am
This photo has to have been from 2009. Potvetkin still looks like a kid and Charr looks about 210 lbs.Posted May 2, 2014 8:08 am