Lol…..Man there’s a bunch of really stupid people on here….Thurman beats them ALL!!! You dumb people better start to realize this kid is for real…..and you idiots that say that he gets hit a lot take a look at the punch stats against Diaz you dummies Thurman was only hit a TOTAL OF 26 times over 3 rounds before making him quit….hmmm how many times did Porter get hit over 20 rounds with Diaz and Khan almost lost to him as well….do some research people Thurman has been doing what hes been doing for years…..really cant believe how dumb the average boxing fan is today!!!Posted May 7, 2014 12:10 am
Bradley isn’t a sexy opponent.. Short… Stubby… Weak… Soft… Power deprived… and the first Bradley fight laid an egg..
Were Pacquiao to fight: Porter… Thurman… Matthysse… Garcia… or somebody exciting who can punch — then the PPV would be much higher.Posted April 30, 2014 1:29 am
Let’s just see if Khan or Maidana ever fight Porter or Thurman… I doubt if they will but we’ll see… Porter and Thurman will win those fights easily if they ever happen.Posted April 30, 2014 1:10 am
Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports reports that the initial reports for Pacquiao*-Bradley II received between 800,000 to 825,000 PPV buys.
Pacquiao vs Bradley II live gate comes in at $7.8 million, Manny’s lowest in years
It’s been a long time since Manny* Pacquiao’s* Nevada gate receipts have dipped below $8 million, but they did just that . . . in his rematch with Timothy Bradley.
. . . rematch at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas between Manny Pacquiao and Timothy Bradley did a live gate total of $7,865,100, with a paid attendance of 14,099, according to the Nevada State Athletic Commission.
You may be wondering how that compares to their 2012 fight. Well, that fight sold 13,229 tickets, but with a gate total of $8,963,180. Simply put, Manny Pacquiao fight tickets were more expensive in 2012 than they are in 2014.
. . . this is his lowest Nevada gate total in many years, his lowest since he became the A-side superstar fighter . . . Does that mean anything for now? I don’t know. It’s just a fact that it’s a low gate for Manny* Pacquiao*.Posted April 29, 2014 7:40 pm
Btw, why isn’t anyone boasting of Pacquiao’s* PPV numbers v. Bradley? . . . (lol).Posted April 29, 2014 7:33 pm
Marquez would have a better shot v. either of these guys IF they didN’T decide to exploit his overall lack of size but that would be dumb. while Marquez insists on campaigning as a 147lbr he will continue to be at a serious size disadvantage.Posted April 29, 2014 7:32 pm
The legendary Manny “Pac Man” Pacquiao and his beautiful wife Jinkee recently welcomed their 5th child, Israel into the world. Life continues to get better for the living legend. His spectacular performance against unbeaten Timothy Bradley left viewers in awe as Manny used his speed, boxing intellect and a variety of pin point punches throughout the fight. Boxing rises to a level of excitement that reaches the sky every time Manny Pacquiao fights. There are no other boxers today that take command of the world’s attention like Manny. Recently there were fights that involved Keith Thurman and Shawn Porter. Both guys would not be recognized outside of the boxing ring. Saturday there is a fight between Floyd Mayweather and Marcos Maidana. There’s no excitement anywhere. Real sports fans don’t have much interest. Floyd Mayweather’s routine of fighting handpicked, one dimensional or inexperienced fighters has worn thin. His me, me, me look at my money and materials and my women I can buy off has fans losing interest in his particular fights. We saw fans badgering him on the All Access show. Floyd has made a fool of himself, and the ticket sales aren’t going very well. Boxing needs Manny Pacquiao to come back soon. He is currently negotiating a possible 5 fight deal that would take him through 2016. Bob Arum is rumored to have a huge offer waiting for Manny Pacquiao. Those that are against Manny signing with Arum must know that Manny Pacquiao is a very loyal, forgiving, understanding, loving and caring person that is a man of his word. Arum has made millions of dollars for Manny Pacquiao. Could he have made more money for Manny? Yes, but Manny Pacquiao has enough money today to last him and his family a life time. Manny Pacquiao is the greatest pure fighter in boxing history. His enormous popularity comes directly from his incredible boxing ability that fans love. Manny is warrior unlike like any other warrior. The living legend has taken on the best of his era. He has no fear of any man or beast. Floyd Mayweather is a lost soul bathing in his money and materials, but he lacks the respect of his peers and the public. Everyone knows that he avoided Manny Pacquiao at all costs even going as far as getting himself locked up just to avoid the greatest fighting machine of all time. Styles make fights, and Manny Pacquiao’s style would have given Mayweather fits. Mayweather would have been knocked in rounds 10-12. Trust me on this. A legend like Manny Pacquiao that carries an entire country on his shoulders has a special ability and passion that cannot be duplicated. Manny Pacquiao beats Floyd Mayweather in all areas. Speed, power, athleticism, stamina and ring generalship favor Manny. This man is not your ordinary man. No one beats Manny Pacquiao on a one fight basis, no one. Manny is the best!Posted April 29, 2014 7:30 pm
bottomline, Thurman and Porter should eliminate each other before daring to even speak of a matchup v. Mayweather. IMO, Mayweather will be retired before either of these guys earns a legitimate shot v. “Money”.Posted April 29, 2014 7:28 pm
TARK said, “Anybody would favor Thurman or Porter vs Maidana or Marquez..” just like they favored Broner to defeat Maidana? anything but a wise bet. IMO, Maidana takes them into the deepest waters they’ve ever experienced and it becomes a toss-up NOT a certainty that Maidana is defeated. i do agree that Marquez KingTFO of fellow feather-welter Pacquiao* doesn’t make him a welter-killer. only a Manny*-Destroyer.
“Thurman had no trouble stopping Soto Karass” he sure did. in the very first round he was tagged and buckled and a moment of panic appeared on his face. to his credit, he recovered and outpunched a defenseless Soto-Karass as in exploited Soto-Karass’ very porous defense. however, beating Soto-Karass or Diaz means nothing in terms of how Thurman would do v. Mayweather. Btw, Khan was there for the taking and chose the tougher Maidana instead. so much for “talk”. as usual, Floyd ducks nobody and chose the worthiest contender for his title.Posted April 29, 2014 7:26 pm
SANITY.., You just don’t know what you’re talking about. Thurman treated Diaz like a sparring partner he beat him so easy… Khan treated Diaz like a life and death situation.Posted April 29, 2014 4:02 pm
Boxtra.., “IF Thurman goes toe to toe with Marquez he’ll get stopped.”
That’s bogus… He would box Marquez’s ears off… and if he went toe-to-toe he’d still win… He’s too big, strong, and young for Marquez.. One KO victory doesn’t translate into Marquez KOing everybody.
You made that mistake in picking Marquez to beat Bradley.Posted April 29, 2014 3:59 pm
Thurman is a prospect , nothing more. The kid needs to learn how to duck under and or keep his guard up against the overhand right. I have seen him get hit with it by some very slow fighters .Posted April 29, 2014 3:27 pm
IF Thurman goes toe to toe with Marquez he’ll get stopped. Just like Tim Bradley would have. Thats why he didn’t DO that. Thurman and Maidana would be a FOY candidate with Thurman pulling out a nail biter. Porter beats all of them except Bradley and Marquez. Bradley out Boxes him IF he doesn’t LOSE poise like he DID vs Manny and Marquez knocks him out IF he dare go toe to toe. He would probably Box like Bradley DID and try to sneak away with a dubious decision.Posted April 29, 2014 2:39 pm
“Khan is a punching bag — so why is Floyd talking so much about fighting him?”-He’s not. Everyone SAID that he would be facing Khan right now but I predicted that it would be Maidana. Floyd likes to face CHAMPS or Top 10 P4P competition or BOTH. …And Khan doesn’t qualify. Thats why he’s on the undercard on May 3rd. And beating Collazo won’t help to qualify him for September. Collazo is a #0 P4P NON CHAMP. Khan should have went and got him some BALLS SO that he could rematch Garcia. You got stopped by a #0 P4P CHAMP. SO what makes you think you’ll DO any better vs the #1 P4P CHAMP???Posted April 29, 2014 2:33 pm
Hidalgo… “The only guys that beat Maidana were slicker, technically proficient boxers–Kotelnik, Khan” … LMFAO!!!
Khan isn’t technically proficient dude… He took all kinds of hard punches from Julio Diaz and was knocked down hard. He only won because he was in England.
Thurman is extremely technically proficient…
Julio Diaz couldn’t reach him with a thing… Keith got the loser out early without any problems — such as Khan encountered.Posted April 29, 2014 1:38 pm
BTW.., I think Porter beats Thurman… That’s an unbelievable fight.Posted April 29, 2014 11:11 am
Hidalgo you’ve got to be kidding… Thurman would murder Maidana.Posted April 29, 2014 11:08 am
Tumbo.., “Let’s cut to the case: do you favor Porter or Thurman v. Maidana? or Canelo? or Marquez?”
Anybody would favor Thurman or Porter vs Maidana or Marquez.. They’d beat them as easy or easier than Floyd beat them.
They would give Floyd damned tough fghts. If beating Berto is so damned hot, why didn’t inept Soto Karass get a title shot? Thurman had no trouble stopping Soto Karass — and beat Julio Diaz a 100 times easier than Khan beat Diaz — because he’s 10 times the boxer Khan is.
Khan is a punching bag — so why is Floyd talking so much about fighting him?Posted April 29, 2014 10:28 am
Broner does act like hamed lmao jmm in his prime beats pac /broner I see where u coming from we needs 50/50 fights that’s why these young guns have to faced each other ..ppl mad at Stevenson however he did right go where the fighters are kovalev should go also but his team hurt him Stevenson can fight hopkins shumenov. Pascal anybody who kovalev fighting? nobodies smh we need better judges and better clean fightsPosted April 29, 2014 3:25 am
Hmm boxing always had A heavy promoter from tex ricard to mobsters to main events to Don king and arum now GBP andTop rank next its going to be Iron mike promotion vs Don king promotions yes I agree promoters are greedy its if my fighter loses I need 2 fight contract with the winner instead we get drama Don king is a bad guy yet he gave us good matchup most of the timeshe hates arum too lol but we got delahoya/Trinidad yes fights can b made lets hope ppl come to their sensesPosted April 29, 2014 3:10 am
i hope you see where i’m coming from drigo… i’m just after great legitimate fights that aren’t fixed or manipulated! i want to see how each fighter would play on an even playing field!Posted April 29, 2014 3:03 am
broner has the attitude of hamed! and JMM doesn’t like arrogant people like barrera… i would like to see how this fight would play out! it would have been nice if this happened during JMM’s prime!Posted April 29, 2014 3:00 am
Broner marquez nice Garcia/ Alvarado hmmPosted April 29, 2014 2:57 am
bradley vs thurman and prov vs brooks are also great matchups!!! again the fight gets more competitive if its one promotional outfit vs another… why? not only because of the revenue involved but also because of pride and bragging rights… who would want their fighter to lose to an opposing outfit’s fighter? none! that’s why there would be rigid check on both sides to ensure that manipulation and fixing do not happen…Posted April 29, 2014 2:53 am
i’m not backing any specific fighter!!! all i’m asking is for great bouts to be made… its just that greedy promoters aren’t making these fights happen. its not just haymon, its arum, its shaefer… and everyone who wants to monopolize the sport… they’re all ruining boxing just because of money… if you look at it everyone can benefit if a co-promotion is made… showtime/hbo could work together, promotional outfits can share in the profit… but what! promoters/networks are wanting to go solo so they can rake in all the money to themselves! the business side of boxing sucks because fans suffer in not getting great matches… this is the sad truth…Posted April 29, 2014 2:49 am
Haymon ?money is his own promoter and haymon is an adviser to many boxers I do agree atum knows money will beat pac so he delayed it like gamboa/lopez arum greasy oily bad for boxing pac will fight anybody yes but he needs to fight better comp no excuses neitherPosted April 29, 2014 2:48 am
Excellent match ups how about bradley/ thurman also provo /brooksPosted April 29, 2014 2:43 am
in my opinion pac is more than willing to challenge any fighter out there… its just arum! he’s protecting his cash cow like what haymon is doing with mayweather…Posted April 29, 2014 2:43 am
Read my 1059 post why pac has never tried to unify major titles at any weight after 126 strangePosted April 29, 2014 2:39 am
if you want a boxing match we can have – bradley vs porter, porter vs marquez, khan vs marquez, khan vs bradley, broner vs bradley, broner vs marquez… as long as the fights are not inhouse i would consider them legitimate and toss up!Posted April 29, 2014 2:38 am
i would love to see rios vs thurman, alvarado vs matthysse, provodnikov vs thurman, provodnikov vs matthysse… toe to toe non stop action bouts!!!Posted April 29, 2014 2:34 am
The reason I asked im tired of pac fighting the same style over and over did u know that if money beats pac and porter ppl wont b happy then provo garcia cotto martinez or ggg smhPosted April 29, 2014 2:34 am
again since this fight is inhouse my guess is arum would likely make jmm win… most practical way to make money because pac-jmm can be made next!Posted April 29, 2014 2:33 am
Im curious who wins Alvarado/marquez by tko or decision?Posted April 29, 2014 2:26 am
Tru .. yet at least the whining will stop also pac will b fighting a young blk fighter who can adapt btw arum didnt make cotto martinez cotto free agentPosted April 29, 2014 2:23 am
i think that fight wouldn’t be to difficult to make considering porter and pac have mutual respect for one another… its just arum and shaefer… but if arum was able to make the cotto vs martinez materialize, i’m pretty sure that the porter vs pacman can push through… the thing with this fight though competitive it may seem is that it lacks the financial output that a mayweather vs pacman would generate…Posted April 29, 2014 2:16 am
i agree with you drigo… again as long as the fight is not inhouse it won’t likely be fixed! porter vs pac = 50/50, speed to pac, power to porter… we’ll just have to see who beats who… this is where the ring generalship comes in…Posted April 29, 2014 2:12 am
Me too kid me too now thats a fight will it happen? hope so… bob arum will delay it thoughPosted April 29, 2014 2:11 am
the pac-porter storyline has an interesting theme so it might create a buzz with the casual boxing fans! porter has the same style with bradley but definitely has more power. i believe it would be a great match up for pac!Posted April 29, 2014 2:09 am
No body boycotted bradley pac and bradley cant punch and pac” beat” bradley already once yet nobody boycotted now maidana got power now boycott ?smh double standard lol pac need to unify against porter next yr then pac fans can say we got 2 titles money will negotiate then then money got 2 also 4 belts 1 champion easy isn’t it?Posted April 29, 2014 2:07 am
i would want to see a porter vs. pac fight! as long as it is not an inhouse fight i will support it. this can be a passing of the torch sort of ritual… as pac is on the downhill! porter is a fresh, young legitimate challenge for pac! i would like to see pac take on this challenge… to unify the belts!Posted April 29, 2014 2:05 am
Another sad day im beginning to think u right why nobody clamoring for porter/pac ?Posted April 29, 2014 1:59 am
the fight is fixed! i agree with the boycott!
This is how a PPV should look like if the promoters
got together, lets push for this!!!
“Pound for Pound Number 1″
main event = mayweather vs pacquiao
undercard 1. porter vs bradley
Another sad day for Pactards
Pacduck is scared of PorterPosted April 29, 2014 1:32 am
Another sad day for Pactards
Pacsuck won’t fight Porter.
Why pac cant fight these guys porter /thurman porterknows the way to beat pac and thurman needs more seasoning if any body duck its pac my bad arumPosted April 29, 2014 1:06 am
Duckweather won’t fighter Porter, no way. Porter is fast and powerful with a good jab, Duckweather won’t go anywhere near him he’s too dangerous. Duckweather is a chicken.Posted April 29, 2014 12:41 am
“Anonymous your a moron Thurman nor Porter have beat anyone worth talking about. Porter beat Paulie but he hasn’t fought no one on Floyds caliber not even close. Hell Floyd is afraid of everyone and the 46 guys he beat was cherry picked, I guess Porter and Thurman are more dangerous than Canelo or Miadana ass clowns lol”
it’s “you’re” not “your” … you retard.Posted April 29, 2014 12:29 am
This is how a PPV should look like if the promoters got together:
“Pound for Pound Number 1″
main event = mayweather vs pacquiao
undercard 1. porter vs bradley
Tark SRR didn’t fight maxim again bcuz 175 was too much jones was the second fight after maxim but it was a close fight though and u right SRR ducked burley and moorePosted April 28, 2014 11:50 pm
hey Aficionado how are ya ?my bad i was hurt bad but im back..I know Im new to this however this money hate is enough to make me answer with the truth ppl respond im waitingPosted April 28, 2014 11:35 pm
Ppl dont forget money fought hernandez best in the division castillo best also ok gatti highlight man baldimor best judah best oscar best in the division pac quick yes but slow of feet and no defence no head movement look at his clips he to open we talking about porter and thurman good fighter yet noone is talking about Lara very different pedigree ..if he beats canelo look outPosted April 28, 2014 11:23 pm
Nobody can beat a master boring fighter! Especially when he picks all his fights!Posted April 28, 2014 11:14 pm
May weather /corralles just have been unification may weather/Guerrero same mayweather/canelo unified tell me pac 8 weight champ yet only try to unify called a “draw”pac good fighter but not great 122 ok 126 ok champs then 130 vacant hmm. 135 weakest champ Diaz 140 hstton beaten by money 147 cotto ok 154 vacant against 1 yr suspended Marz for a title pattern ppl may weather dont duck nobody yet pac gets credit he never unified against no one greatPosted April 28, 2014 10:59 pm
“I really don’t see how Canelo got into this discussion at all” because Canelo inserted himself into Floyd’s competitive bracket (did you miss it?). along with shrill and premature accusations from Floyd’s-Haters that he would duck the challenge. not unlike the same shrill and premature accusations that claimed Floyd would avoid Maidana. anybody who Floyd hasn’t actually faced is automatically given the advantage of intimidation. that is until Mayweather accepts the challenge and the Hate immediately shifts to another fighter or fighters that Floyd hasn’t had the chance to defeat. it’s a boring and stale routine by now but Porter and Thurman is really scraping the bottom of the barrel. they are nowhere near ready to or worthy of facing Mayweather.Posted April 28, 2014 9:05 pm
Anonymous: Yeah… Floyd “schools” anyone who can’t keep up with him… He will never fight people who can, which as I listed earlier, includes fleet footed, dynamic fighters such as Porter, Thurman, Khan and especially PACQUIAO!!Posted April 28, 2014 8:55 pm
I like Thurman but hasn’t fought a live body his entire career.Posted April 28, 2014 8:35 pm
Can’t believe some of you guys think Porter would even have a chance at beating Mayweather. He beat Alexander and Paulies washed up. Floyd schools himPosted April 28, 2014 8:33 pm
“Floyd only picked Guerrero, Canelo, and Maidana, because” they were coming off of spectacular wins that made them the most profitable opponents. they don’t call Floyd “Money” for nothing. all Porter and Thurman need to do is risk defeat v. equally-promising contenders and/or established champions. once they’ve done some of the heavy-lifting, Mayweather will greet them halfway with an opportunity to be the First. it’s that simple and Mayweather’s established M.O.Posted April 28, 2014 8:14 pm
“. . . regardless of Porter’s experience . . .” HIDALGo, that preface automatically diminishes your glib assessment of Porter and Mayweather. let’s cut to the case: do you favor Porter or Thurman v. Maidana? or Canelo? or Marquez? otherwise, they are still ascending through the Guerrero, Soto-Karass, and Josesito level of welter rankings. Mayweather is on another level occupied by a total of 1 undisputed and undefeated champion. ultimately, the most prominent brand is what makes most sense to Mayweather and coming off of dramatic and/or spectacular wins is the most effective way to attract “Money’s” attention. that was the case v. unified lightweight champion Marquez, Ortiz, Mosley, Guerrero, Canelo, and now Maidana. all of whom were coming off spectacular even upset wins (and in Marquez’s case a division-unifying campaign) v. fighters who were favored in much the same way that you are now favoring the likes of Thurman and Porter. tested and proven remain the most accurate criteria for assessing a fighter’s true ability. everything else is speculation.Posted April 28, 2014 8:10 pm
Old Coot, don’t waste you time explaining to Dumbo…Posted April 28, 2014 6:53 pm
Tumbo: Floyd only picked Guerrero, Canelo, and Maidana, because while they have quick hands and power… Ulike Porter, Thurman, Khan and especially PACQUIAO, Guerrero, Canelo and Maidana have slow feet, which Floyd plans to use against them by running and gunning to another boring UD of potshot counters.Posted April 28, 2014 4:44 pm
Despite being relative unknowns, still, both are much too fleet-footed, quick fisted, & powerful for Floyd’s risk tolerance.Posted April 28, 2014 4:21 pm
Mayweather has already risked defeating fighters just as or more formidable than an unproven like Thurman and untested and unproven Porter. in fact, over the past year it was whether Floyd would dare face Canelo and Maidana. Canelo down, Maidana coming up and if Thurman and Porter don’t remain idle and bolster their own brand taking the risk of facing each other and/or Mathysse, Garcia, Maidana, Pacquiao*, etc., i’m certain they will place themselves in “Money’s” cro$$hairs.Posted April 28, 2014 3:57 pm
Thurman vs Porter first, the winner gets Floyd. It would be a legit fight with some proper hype.Posted April 28, 2014 3:38 pm
Hidalg0 put down the crack pipe is Porter even ranked right now? Who has he fought work anything Paulie? lol not to mention half the people have never heard of him he is not even a ppv draw yet. No Porter is way too green he would get beat easily Floyd is way too seasoned you have to bring these youngster in slow. To much too fast and you see what happened to Broner. Porter needs to fight guys like Thurman, Danny Garcia or Mattysee Floyd would kill him your high…Posted April 28, 2014 2:00 pm
Floyd will NOT fight Porter. Not now or later. Porter is too fast, too quick, too strong. I’m not saying Porter would beat Floyd but he’s not the kind of opponent Floyd likes or wants to face. Wait and see, he will never fight Porter.
They said the same with Canelo. Once he faces them, someone else is presented to who Floyd is supposedly dodging.
If Porter continues to win, makes a name for himself, can draw huge numbers for Floyd, Floyd will do it.Posted April 28, 2014 1:14 pm
As much flack as Mayweather receives for fighting quote on quote, “easy opponents”, you’re telling me that he wouldn’t get any flack for fighting these two? Seriously??? What about these two would warrant such a fight and would make them serious threats? Thurman isn’t fast as this writer makes him out to be. He has decent hand speed, but he’s not young Shane Mosley or young Mayweather for that matter. Second, despite his power and his boxing IQ, Thurman gets touched way too much at this point in his career and Mayweather would have a field day with him. Porter would simply be outboxed. If he can’t get close enough to out muscle Mayweather (whose extremely strong) how is he to win? These would certainly be two easy fights for Mayweather, which will certainly create more criticism from his biggest fans, the people who hate him the most.Posted April 28, 2014 11:36 am
Floyd Mayweather is smart enough to figure it’s not risky to fight the young guns mentioned above, the unknown young ones. He’s the smartest of all the Black American boxers & honestly I want him to fight Pacquiao, but that will be too risky.Posted April 28, 2014 11:28 am
I don’t even like Mayweather but he just fought 23 yr old Alvarez so don’t see the point of the article. Even though I thought that fight was rigged.
Fight wasn’t rigged. If Canelo were to beat Floyd it would have made him HUGE in the States and World Wide. The amount of money he would have made in the rematch would be so much money that no smart man would have enough to pay him off to have it fixed.
Canelo losing that fight lost himself a huge payday in the rematch, questions on his career from here on out and future earning power overall even though he can bounce back to some degree. But he will still be #2 no matter what from here on out. No Way is someone like Canelo not going to go all out and win.
Bottom line: He looked confused in there because that’s what Floyd does to his opponents.Posted April 28, 2014 11:13 am
Mayweather in my opinion who says he’s TBE if he won’t fight Manny and there’s no other comp at 147. Then he should at least fight Lara at 154. Can’t see Floyd winning Floyd the overrated champion Ducker of this era.Posted April 28, 2014 8:39 am
I don’t even like Mayweather but he just fought 23 yr old Alvarez so don’t see the point of the article. Even though I thought that fight was rigged.Posted April 28, 2014 8:25 am
Regarding PEEJ, you guys should have figured it out by now, he is a she…Posted April 28, 2014 8:25 am
The fight is a joke. Maidana lost 2 years ago against Devon Alexander, 90-100, 90-100, 91-99 on the scorecards. He lost to Kotelnik and Khan. Floyd is the biggest joke on Earth, his fans and people buying his PPV fights are worse. Joke fight, don’t buy it folks, don’t get cheat….Maidana is made for Floyd to easily beat him by running and potshotting him…Posted April 28, 2014 8:24 am
Tark is senile.Posted April 28, 2014 7:26 am
PEEJ you are a deformed pen1s.Posted April 28, 2014 5:45 am
TARK 2 things…
(1) if you think Diaz edged Khan – you are saying it`s close. If it is close, how can you say “robbery”?
(2) Why are you sh1tting on SRR – the guy had 200 fights, that’s 200 times for things to screw up. He fought JOnes after one fight back from 3 years off.
Not that there isn`t a genuine criticism to be had there.
Just that you really lay one side of the argument so thick it becomes meaningless.Posted April 28, 2014 5:44 am
Sean – ” Floyd wont fight martinez. No way ” that’s cause you keep ducking common sense, fool. Floyd is a WW, Maravilla is a MW.Posted April 28, 2014 2:29 am
sean patrick harrington says.., “Tark robinson never ducked anyone. He fought jake lamatto 4 times. Srr is the best boxer that ever lived”
Jake LaMotta was one of the slowest and most punchable boxers who ever fought.. So naturally Robinson fought him a lot.
But Robinson certainly ducked Charley Burley and Archie Moore who were ATG’s.
Robinson DID fight slow and punchess Joey Maxim… Robinson DID fight Ralph Jones, who lost his five (5) fights in a row prior to beating the hell out of Robinson… Robinson was stopped by Maxim and beaten up by Jones.
And there’s a queation.. Why wouldn’t Robinson give them rematches???Posted April 28, 2014 2:11 am
Hidalgo – Floyd has proved you’re a fool, hater and a ho time n again.Posted April 28, 2014 1:38 am
Hidalg0, that true maidana has bigger experience from beforeb, ever fighters get better with fights, but that don’t change the records, Floyd has to measure up to what axexander and khan done to maidana and that beat maidana a UD decission to be even. or a stoppage that better.Posted April 28, 2014 1:27 am
boxing fighters are being rearrange in ranking , the boxers are slowly lose the war to the slugger/ boxer the hybrids.
First was khan a boxer taken out by Garcia a slugger/ boxer.
Next alexander A boxer, yes did totally beat maidana to a U.D decision. But Porter a slugger/boxer push him out easily by slugging him out as did Bradley. A slugger/ boxer as is PAC. Two of the best slugger/ boxer around.
the next boxer to go was broner, who maidan a true slugger vs canelo (a boxer w/a-good punch) beat the heck out of him
Next came paulie a true boxer, porter a slugger/ boxer nultralize paulie boxing skill, and slugg paulie and ran him over.
Next comes thurman another slugger/ boxer up against Dias a experienced counter puncher boxer.
Verdict? 5 boxer have bitten the dust. As I said slugger/boxer will rule, not slugger. unless your a slick boxer but still have to be proven.
Next up: Floyd vs maidana a b- rated slugger ( experienced and getting better, a true inside fighter/ multi unexpected timed cross lobbing over the top)
Axexander, khan, both beat maidana on a UD decision, but Bradley, porter, slugger / boxer beat alexander the boxer up
Agree, Robinson is the best.Posted April 28, 2014 12:11 am
sean patrick harrington
Tark robinson never ducked anyone. He fought jake lamatto 4 times. Srr is the best boxer that ever livedPosted April 28, 2014 12:10 am
Q says…, “Very logical. Anybody Floyd fights wasn’t a threat, anybody he doesn’t fight he’s ducking, and anybody they say he won’t fight that he ends up fighting (Canelo) was garbage and or Floyd already knew he would beat him. It’s like a religious debate, you can prove them wrong. *shrug* I’d like Floyd to fight Thurman/Porter
There’s only one thing wrong with that argument… Floyd WON’T fight Lara… he WON’T fight Pacquiao… and he WON’T fight Porter.
If Floyd really fought a genuine great fighter you would have a better argument. Floyd is ducking the biggest threats to his “O” … You KNOW it.
I’m not saying Floyd is not crafty about his ducking… So was Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Ali, Robinson, and everybody else who ever made a practice of ducking the best and toughest opponents out there.Posted April 28, 2014 12:07 am
Well we will just have 2 wait and c…I think Sergio is a big chance @ a Floyd fight as is Garcia….Sergio hasn’t many tussles left, Floyds not stupid? Well he’s advisors aren’t stupid.Posted April 28, 2014 12:06 am
sean patrick harrington
Floyd wont fight martinez. No way. Martinez called him out twice and floyd said he had no fans. Means floyd worried he could losePosted April 27, 2014 11:57 pm
sean patrick harrington
I respect floyds skills but he has been playing safe for so long i lost hope in him fighting elite boxers.Posted April 27, 2014 11:55 pm
So Floyds not fighting again than? That’s silly saying he won’t fight Khan, Garcia & Thurman? There all golden boy there’s more chance of Floyd fighting them than manny. I think Floyd will b watching Sergio v Cotto close. Sergio v Floyd$$$$$$ 4 both.Posted April 27, 2014 11:53 pm
Cherry picking ducking Floyd will never fight somebody who gonna whip his black ass like Pacquiao Khan Bradley Golovin and the young guns like Turman and Garcia.I’ll never watch his fights again unless against these real opponentsPosted April 27, 2014 11:45 pm
Anonymous has no logic in his debate. Only biast comments based on hate. Facts always when and this guy has none.Posted April 27, 2014 10:46 pm
Listen, Floyd once said, “I fought guerrero because he was my mandatory.” Well great! Now Thurman is your mandatory. Don’t make excuses for not fighting him. You’re supposed to be p4p, let alone a FIGHTER!!! sTOP BEING A WUSS.Posted April 27, 2014 10:33 pm
Forget about noise…..fans know what time it is and they especially know how much of a weasel floyd has been. You flomos are always in favor of floyd not fight certain fighters yet….not one of you floydiots even suggest a reputable fighter whose odds are better than 15-1, Floyds current odds to beat maidana. Odds like those indicate a predictable fight and thats a disgrace! Intead of saying, “floyd will do this and do that,” why do suggest a “live” dog who will bring it to Floyd instead of has beens like guerrero, ortiz, little jmm and little madiana. Yes, little. Maidana has never fought a legitimate WW and we all know broner certainly wasnt one, and was not a measuring stick for how maidana will do in the WW division.Posted April 27, 2014 10:31 pm
Who are the elite fighter of the division? Porter and Thurman were are these guy even ranked? I mean they have a few wins against nobodies and all of a sudden there elite? I guess Floyd is now scared of these armatures?Posted April 27, 2014 10:30 pm
Floyd is not in the business of fighting elite fighters or those coming into their own in the WW division. He is the type of fighter who relies on less risk for the same purse. As evidenced, Bradley, who has been in the WW division for years was ignored by Floyd in favor of schmucks like guerrero, ortiz, little JMM and now, maidana. He can do whatever he wants…but Im not paying so much money to see one sided, predictable fights. Whats the point.Posted April 27, 2014 10:23 pm
Porter fighting Floyd is like fattening a young calf for the kill, he would make one hell of a barbecue. Yes the strategy would be to hype the youngsters up Thurman and Porter, maybe a few more tune ups and then let them face Floyd right now neither guy has made enough noise in the divisionPosted April 27, 2014 10:09 pm
Very logical. Anybody Floyd fights wasn’t a threat, anybody he doesn’t fight he’s ducking, and anybody they say he won’t fight that he ends up fighting (Canelo) was garbage and or Floyd already knew he would beat him. It’s like a religious debate, you can prove them wrong. *shrug* I’d like Floyd to fight Thurman/Porter
TRUTHPosted April 27, 2014 10:08 pm
Kell brooke may knock off porter. Gbp will match thurman against another soft opponent build him up a lil more for thurman vs floyd early 2015. Floyd vs pac late 2015 or early 2016 for floyd and pac’s final fight of their careers. Heard it here 1st!Posted April 27, 2014 10:02 pm
porter will lose his next fight. Kell Brook will time him off the jab every time. Pop, pop, pop, on his way to a 6/7th rnd KO. You mark my words!Posted April 27, 2014 9:49 pm
Floyd has talked a lot about fighting Amir Khan. Julio Diaz was able to hit Khan with everything… deck Khan hard… edge Khan on my card… and get robbed in England.
Keith Thurman never took a good punch from Diaz…
Thurman hit Diaz with everything, almost as freely as you please. He would have battered Diaz to a stoppage in 5 or 6 rounds… but Julio’s brother Joel pulled him out of the fight… and why not??? The pay was the same whether Julio Diaz took a savage beating—or if he quit after 3 rounds to avoid getting smashed up… Victor Ortiz learned that a long time ago… It’s smart to say your rib is hurting in that situation, and just quit.
Keith Thurman would give Floyd a tough 12-round fight… but Shawn Porter would give Floyd a tougher 12-round fight. I think this kid Porter is the real deal.
So why shouldn’t Floyd fight Amir Khan??? The pay is about the same … and it’s easier.Posted April 27, 2014 9:44 pm
but of course they need a big fight on their resume. Thurman can fight Lucas, Danny. or Khan. Porter can fight Khan… Lucas or Danny and they’d be prime candidates for a FMJ bout 100%Posted April 27, 2014 9:40 pm
Very logical. Anybody Floyd fights wasn’t a threat, anybody he doesn’t fight he’s ducking, and anybody they say he won’t fight that he ends up fighting (Canelo) was garbage and or Floyd already knew he would beat him. It’s like a religious debate, you can prove them wrong. *shrug* I’d like Floyd to fight Thurman/PorterPosted April 27, 2014 9:38 pm
Azzboxwhere iss Porter and Thurman even ranked? Hell no one even knows who these guys they are way too green they are not even ppv worthy yet. People said Canelo would KO would and after he schooled him he was too fresh and hasnt ready? Porter and Thurman wont even make it past guys like Broner, Danny Garcia, Mattyesse or Kahn all would be good testers they are unproven. And lets not get started on Manny who is not the same fighter snd regardless of what Arum says he would never let Manny fight Floyd who he hates so much. Jews hate blacks with power ask Donald Sterling…lolPosted April 27, 2014 9:37 pm
If he feels they are a threat he won’t fight them. As he says I don’t care about legacy only healthPosted April 27, 2014 9:28 pm
Mans world- agree Thurman v porter/Garcia/Matthysse is the steps that need 2 b taken. Wouldn’t want 2 hear all the crying 4 Floyd beating a young green kid like Canelo….wasn’t he suppose 2 KO Mayweather?Posted April 27, 2014 9:28 pm
Danni, Floyd is not a MW. He barely made 150 for his fight with Canelo, ya digPosted April 27, 2014 9:27 pm
Anonymous your a moron Thurman nor Porter have beat anyone worth talking about. Porter beat Paulie but he hasn’t fought no one on Floyds caliber not even close. Hell Floyd is afraid of everyone and the 46 guys he beat was cherry picked, I guess Porter and Thurman are more dangerous than Canelo or Miadana ass clowns lolPosted April 27, 2014 9:27 pm
GDP is gonna build up a fight between Porter and Thurman, and the winner takes on GarciaPosted April 27, 2014 9:25 pm
Porter will beat Thurman by TKO and then beat Duckweather if Duckweather has the courage to fight him, but he won’t because Duckweather always ducks anyone who is a real threat to his fake record.Posted April 27, 2014 8:53 pm
Duckweather the cherry picking fraud.Posted April 27, 2014 8:51 pm
sean patrick harrington
Danni thats my point. 147 is a weak divisionPosted April 27, 2014 8:41 pm
Both fighters only stand a punchers chance. Thurman only looks fast because he is fighting unathletic fighters. Even Mosely looked slow vs. Floyd and he has faster hands than THurman now. He would look like he is stuck in the mud vs. Floyd. Both men would set there careers back a year or two by facing Floyd now.Posted April 27, 2014 8:26 pm
He just beat Canelo a junoir middle weight thats younger than Porter and Canelo.Posted April 27, 2014 8:08 pm
Since nobody seems to be ready for Floyd at 147, it’s time for Floyd to retire or move up I guess according to some fans.
154, there is Lara. 160, there is GGG and Martinez. They are ready.Posted April 27, 2014 8:04 pm
Porter nor Thurman are ready for Floyd there are plenty of under links for them to fight and prove they are not only worthy but ready. He would school both of these youngsters. They should fight each other then the winner fight Danny Garcia or Mattyesse first you cannot jump the gun.
Top 3 fighters Floyd can face at 147 that he can fight in September and then in 2015?
Pac? Well, it doesn’t seem like it is going to happen. So cross him off. Who else?
Thurman’s goal is Floyd in 2015 so he isn’t even saying right now he deserves the fight. He wants Porter next himself to line himself up for Floyd. He knows the game.Posted April 27, 2014 8:03 pm
sean p h
Thurman and porter are not top boxers period.
And Robert Guerrero and Maidana are at 147?
Thurman and Porter At 147 are. Top 5 fighters right now at 147 are who?Posted April 27, 2014 8:00 pm
Porter nor Thurman are ready for Floyd there are plenty of under links for them to fight and prove they are not only worthy but ready. He would school both of these youngsters. They should fight each other then the winner fight Danny Garcia or Mattyesse first you cannot jump the gun.Posted April 27, 2014 7:59 pm
sean patrick harrington
Floyds the 154 champion. Canelo with be a belt holder since floyd outclassed him so easilyPosted April 27, 2014 7:44 pm
Canelo is a monster. He is the best at 154. I think he will stop lara by late tko in july. Lara is a lil over ratedPosted April 27, 2014 7:41 pm
sean p h
Thurman and porter are not top boxers period.Posted April 27, 2014 7:35 pm
sean p h
Canelo does not have a single win over a legit boxer with skills.Posted April 27, 2014 7:34 pm
Murderman-spot on…..every1 would moan and cry if a Floyd v Thurman/Porter fight was made. The headline is stupid in its own right? Risk with Thurman, Porter? Canelo is more dangerous? & he already got schooled.Posted April 27, 2014 7:33 pm
They said floyd wouldnt fight canelo also. We say what happen! Neither porter or thurman have the experience it takes to beat floyd. Canelo is better than both of thesd guys and we say what floyd did to himPosted April 27, 2014 7:09 pm
Too risky, especially Porter. He won’t take risks.Posted April 27, 2014 7:00 pm
sean p h
Your way off livershotPosted April 27, 2014 6:13 pm
sean p h
Khan broner and rios are not very good. How anyone could put pac and bradley in that group are clueless. Same with garcia. He already destroyed khan plus he would ko bronerPosted April 27, 2014 6:12 pm
sean p h
Porter and thurman wont fight pac or bradley.Posted April 27, 2014 6:06 pm
Both Porter and Thurman are tailor made for Mayweather. The come forward and have no plan B, C, or D when they get caught coming in over and over. Examples are Ortiz and Gurrero and soon Maidana. If he fights him now it will be Canelo Alvarez all over again and people will say they were to green to fight Mayweather. It’s either old and slow or young and not ready yet. Porter or Thurman can look to fight Bradley, Kahn, Rios, Garcia, Pacquiao or even Broner before getting in the ring with P4P King Mayweather.Posted April 27, 2014 6:03 pm
Octavius Jomar Chatman
Like you just stated; he is old school like King was and I have autobiographies from fighters who use to fight under King Promotions who talk about such practices. One fighter in particular who comes to mind is Larry Holmes. King did the same crap to him throughout his entire career with him.Posted April 27, 2014 5:57 pm
sean p h
Hgh is produced by the master gland. The pituatary gland as is at its peak at 25 and decreases over time. Working out does not increase hgh. Doing heavy squats increases test. The only way to increase hgh ia with a hgh shots or amino acid blends that stimulate the pituatary glandPosted April 27, 2014 5:56 pm
Octavius Jomar Chatman
@Anonymous; I truly believe in my hearts of hearts that ROB ARUM has his claws deep into Manny because Manny is in the RED with him. Manny comes from humble beginnings. I believe getting a taste of the good life and helping out others; that he overspent and had to borrow money on future earnings. I believe that is how he got into tax troubles as well….I feel like Arum has him trapped where he has to continue to resign with him and he can’t explore any other options….Posted April 27, 2014 5:54 pm
Mayweather once again will find a way to fight both of these inexperienced fighters. These guys are just now coming on the scene, but they are just like Canelo Alvarez, good records, but weak competition. Porter IMO is the much better fighter than Thurman. He has great stamina, takes a punch great and is good in all areas. He has gone 10 rounds or more 8 times in his career. Thurman has gone 10 rounds or more just 2 times. His chin is questionable as his ability to take a punch is a question after being rocked badly by Soto Karass and took a little stumble against Diaz. Both of these guys should try and fight one of the following: Bradley, Brook, Maidana, Manny Pacquiao, Marquez, Guerrero and even Broner. They need experience. Floyd selects those fighters that he can take advantage of like he did with Canelo. You can have a fighter with all the talent in the world, but if he doesn’t have the experience to deal with various adversities in the ring, and he fights any top guy, he’s going to get a whole lot of experience getting beat. Floyd Mayweather knows who he has to fight (Manny Pacquiao), but he’s going to play it safe by first fighting a strong fighter with no boxing skills or defense or movement or speed. He will fight a Marcos Maidana that will be a perfect set up fight for him. Floyd will then pick on another fragile chinned Amir Khan, and will finally end his career fighting another weak hyped up contender. Yes he will make good money in these fights, but he falls short of being called a great fighter. Duran, Leonard, Robinson, Louis, Armstrong, Hagler, Benitez, R. Jones were great fighters.Posted April 27, 2014 5:53 pm
Way too early for this sort of question. These young guns need to establish themselves first.
I know Mayweather is not that liked, but he has earned his spurs many times over.Posted April 27, 2014 5:36 pm
If I were Pac and I would have demanded those books be open and kept open. I would want to see each and every deal made and every penny accumulated from my fights and hard-work to be counted. If my numbers are supposedly (at the time) close to Floyd’s, why is he making a certain amount and I am not. If it is all down to Floyd’s way of doing business which is to be the Man at the top and hand out the checks, then that’s what I would follow.
Sugar Ray Leonard talked about it a long time ago: Be your own man, be your own promoter, be the boss instead of the employee.
There are always certain athletes that know what they are worth and will get it. That’s why Babe Ruth, way back then when athletes were getting ripped off like you wouldn’t believe, and were scared to lose their jobs as players and even had to work a second job in the off season…Babe was over there demanded more money than the President and he got it.Posted April 27, 2014 5:35 pm
Yeah what about Pac oh thats right Arum doesn’t let his fighters fight Floyd.
He’ll let them fight them if Floyd signs a 4 fight deal and is promoted by Top Rank.
Arum is still old school like Don King was. Hide the books and demand fighters to sign a contract with them or they don’t get to fight his fighters.
I thought that was illegal but apparently there are ways around the law.
They do this in other fields as well. In Fields that you wouldn’t think would do it because they should be above it but they still do it. They just say, Donate to our charity/cause/business, and you can have a contract with us.Posted April 27, 2014 5:31 pm
Fraud is on synthetic peds…
That’s a statement sounds more in tune with jealousy of your own insecurities and inability than the more common theme of modern day fans being fatigued with the notion that athletes suspicions of PED use.Posted April 27, 2014 5:27 pm
That said, supplementing your body with large doses of HGH does also increase your head size.
Floyd’s looks normal.
There are others (not in boxing) that I would question a lot more.
If your eyebrow area starts to really protrude, jaw gets wider…and I’m not talking about just the look of filling out because you were nutritionally starving yourself and you look gaunt…..but if that jaw, brow area, etc. start to suddenly thicken and expand in a short time period…Yeah, I would be really suspicious that someone is using HGH.Posted April 27, 2014 5:25 pm
Fraud is on synthetic peds…Posted April 27, 2014 5:25 pm
Octavius Jomar Chatman
Not!!!! His head is the same size as usual. Besides; we are talking about an ADVOCATE for STRICT TEST; so give it a rest.
Head size can actually continue to grow throughout your 30’s for several reasons. HGH is constantly released in your system and as long as it is still high naturally, it can and will be used based on your nutritional intake and how you stimulate your strength training.
Ex: Increase your food intake and strength program, your HGH levels increase which will thicken your bone mass overall. Slowly but it does work.
Also, being Bald doesn’t help the illusion of a smaller head if you have the thick dome look. Some bald guys look like they have a smaller head than when they had hair and others look like they have larger. Weird how it works. All based on your skull shape.Posted April 27, 2014 5:21 pm
sean p h
Looks as big as pacsPosted April 27, 2014 5:19 pm
Octavius Jomar Chatman
Not!!!! His head is the same size as usual. Besides; we are talking about an ADVOCATE for STRICT TEST; so give it a rest.Posted April 27, 2014 5:12 pm
Man look at the size of Mayweather’s head in that pic , it’s freakin massive . HGH anybody ? ……Posted April 27, 2014 5:09 pm
Octavius Jomar Chatman
Some of you are stupid and so is this article. If Floyd was to fight Porter or Thurman right now; I would put all the money I have on the fact you would call it CHERRY PICKING because both; ESPECIALLY Thurman are UNPROVEN STILL…..So please spare me with this BS of Floyd not fight either of these two.Posted April 27, 2014 4:59 pm
It does not matter. Floyd will choose the least risky fighter who will generate the most money.Posted April 27, 2014 4:58 pm
Fact!Posted April 27, 2014 4:52 pm
Yeah what about Pac oh thats right Arum doesn’t let his fighters fight Floyd.Posted April 27, 2014 4:51 pm
Bears – Mayweather’s resume is better than the Klitschko brothers combined.Posted April 27, 2014 4:51 pm
The oracle of Delphi
What about Pac? Wait a minute, Mayweather is afraid….poor baby…Posted April 27, 2014 4:47 pm
Ike I agree. And it is something that can happen since they are all with HaymonPosted April 27, 2014 4:28 pm
Not a chance in hellPosted April 27, 2014 4:14 pm
The winner of Porter-Thurman would make a suitable challenger for Mayweather.Posted April 27, 2014 4:10 pm
He is afraid of young black fighters point blankPosted April 27, 2014 3:45 pm
Margacheatos whole career is nothing now cause he is a cheater and should not be mentioned. GGG is a 160lb fighter and is currently fighting at 168, should not be mentioned, Clottey was never ducked. There is just no money in a Clottey fight. Wright was to big for Floyd, they were not close to the same weight until Wright was already old and partially retired. Floyd and Forrest were never in the same weight class either. Williams lost to the Puerto Rican dude which caused him to get pushed back and then he started jumping around in weight classes. That is his fault. Garcia has already stated he is not looking for a Floyd fight. And Thurman is not ready. He will be next year but he needs a couple of more fights with the comp stepped up.Posted April 27, 2014 3:13 pm
sean p h
Plus thurman is not an elite boxer but floyd dont want itPosted April 27, 2014 2:57 pm
sean p h
Floyd duck zu margarito williams clottey wright forest ggg ward martinez ggg and garcia. No body is hating. Floyd just dont fight the top boxers plain and simple.Posted April 27, 2014 2:56 pm
YesPosted April 27, 2014 2:54 pm
sean p h
NoPosted April 27, 2014 2:53 pm
Floyds resume speaks for itself. He has fought some of the best, HOF fighters, young up and comers. Only haters think otherwise. Floyd is the greatest fighter of his generation. And I think Thurman needs to take on Porter first and then once he gets a title he can take on Floyd. If Porter beats Brooks which I think he will and then he can go straight to Floyd or fight Thurman.Posted April 27, 2014 2:36 pm
The answer is no and you wanna know why? Because they ARE NOT Pay Per View attractions. Sounds like an excuse but it’s the truthPosted April 27, 2014 2:33 pm
Thurman and Porter should fight one another. Both of them have yet to prove themselves against an elite fighter…opinion scrappedPosted April 27, 2014 2:32 pm
Thurman? another forgone conclusion but a step up from kahn, maidana, ortiz, and guerrero. Floyds old and has been fighting for 18 years never fighting the best. He is not gonna start now. Who cares who he fights its a garbage con circus act.Posted April 27, 2014 1:59 pm