Huckster said:-‘wlad did not do the “I will revenge my family’s honor and my brother’s loss spiel against Lewis.” Wlad was no where near ready to take on Lewis. Don’t spit the wind.’
Jury is still out on Wilder. Take him into round 7 and he will fold.
boxing is weaker now than it has ever been.Posted March 19, 2014 8:52 am
TE TUMBO has the beat. TARK hands out back-handed compliments.Posted March 18, 2014 7:26 pm
Leon Spinks? Terry Norris? Ray Leonard? John Ruiz? Buster Douglas? you might as well have rounded off this list with Gatti and Julian Jackson. they also had some memorable KO wins v. less-vulnerable competition. the common denominator between all of these fighters is that none are consensus ATGs. not even leonard who didn’t even crack the 40-fight threshold but did set a record for pouty, post-loss retirementS. anyway, i have no idea how praise of these fighters is supposed to balance your rabid criticism of consensus ATGs Ali, Hagler, and Robinson but i’m certain you have a sage and clever rationale that doesN’T justify your praise or condemnation of any of the previously-named fighters.Posted March 18, 2014 7:21 pm
TARK, in the case of Leon Spinks, Terry Norris, SRL etc. it is back-handed praise in order for you to tear into the likes of Hagler and Ali like a Hyena on a carcass. You seem to smell blood and go for the kill, without regard for anyone’s reputation or circumstances.Posted March 18, 2014 5:15 pm
TARK, at long last you are naming guys pre 95 that you rate! But I will pull your card on Terry Norris, as you always prefix Norris’ name with china-chinned. Please do not deny this. I have read several posts where you berate Norris, who possibly fought the most title fights at Lt Middle.Posted March 18, 2014 5:12 pm
Plus Ezzard Charles… He beat Archie Moore 3 times without a loss and was one of the greatest LHW’s of all time… Right up until about his 3rd fight with Joe Walcott… The early symptoms of ALS—which eventually took Charles’ life a young age—took it’s toll on Charles and he lost to an aging Walcott who he beat twice earlier.. The Charles of the late 40’s was one of the best ever.Posted March 18, 2014 5:02 pm
Anonymous says…, “No TARK, I was talking about old school fighters in general. There is not ONE fighter who fought before 1995 that you have ever given praise to.”
I sure as Hell gave praise to Ralph Jones — for coming off 5 straight losses to beat the living trash out of Sugar Ray Robinson.
I sure as Hell gave praise to Leon Spinks, who had only 6 pro wins but beat the Hell out of Muhammad Ali anyway.
I sure as Hell gave praise to Mike McCallum.. MM was so good Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, and Duran ducked him forever.
I sure as Hell gave praise to Terry Norris. Terrible Terry boxed the ears off Sugar Ray Leonard and mopped the floor with him.
I sure as Hell gave praise to Sugar Ray Leonard. Not that many welterweights from his time could come off a 3-year-layoff with no warm-up fights — and box Marv Hagler’s face off the way he did.
I give praise to Lennox Lewis… He scared the bejabbers out of Riddick Bowe, who trashed his title belt rather than get KO’d by Lewis..
I sure as Hell give praise to John Ruiz.. He floored a prime Holyfield and beat him.
I also give praise to Riddick Bowe.. He took a ton of punches to his wide open face — but still managed to beat the crap out of little Holyfeild twice.
I sure as Hell give credit to Buster Douglas.. He was knocked out several times, so he was a 42-1 underdog — but he still manged to give Mike Tyson a boxing lesson for 10 rounds before Knocking TFO of him, ending the embarrassingly one-sided affair.
Plus I always gave praise to Eder Jofre… Salvador Sanchez… Jack Johnson… Joe Louis… Carlos Monzon… Rodrigo Valdez… Gene Tunney… and many other ATG’s who were among the GOAT.Posted March 18, 2014 4:55 pm
wlad did not do the “I will revenge my family’s honor and my brother’s loss spiel against Lewis.” Wlad was no where near ready to take on Lewis. Don’t spit the wind.Posted March 18, 2014 12:42 pm
tark seeing as your the expert on modern legends do you think malic scott will go on to be as great as david price.Posted March 18, 2014 12:41 pm
Hiiiii Ernie, it is me, Angie Baby. Hows about a nice open faced roast beef samwich. Lotsa mayo too.Posted March 18, 2014 12:29 pm
Tark, had Mike Tyson landed the uppercut on Wilder that he deposited on Douglas, Wilder would be sleeping. As it was Douglas barely got up from that wicked uppercut. Some say he was on cocaine and that is why he was able to get up. Dunno, BUT, the jury is still out on this guy Deon Wilder. We might call him Slappy Wilder after this. Slappy Birdlegs Wilder.Posted March 18, 2014 12:26 pm
I don’t understand people saying that Scott was not warmed up? He spent 90 seconds running round the ring, like he was auditioning for Dancing With The Stars.
TARK, nice to see you have DUCKED my rebuttals to your posts re SRR and Tiger Jones on the other thread, but, what else would you expect from a Tark? You always duck the question.Posted March 18, 2014 11:47 am
TARK only sees what he wants to see.
TARK would even find fault with GOD, if he is ever lucky enough to be granted an audience.Posted March 18, 2014 11:45 am
No TARK, I was talking about old school fighters in general. There is not ONE fighter who fought before 1995 that you have ever given praise to. You have torn all their achievements down, but now you say Wlad at 39 is getting old, when you can’t see that fighters regularly fought umpteen times a year in the times of SRR, who you have trashed like a spoilt child. If Wlad loses to Fury he will be a laughing stock. Plain and simple. But, good try, you getting in his age, when in all your other posts you call out Hagler for losing to SRL at 32, despite him being in his 66th pro fight and undergone countless wars to get there. Wlad has seldom been tested in his entire career, so there will hardly be any wear and tear on him and we have moved on more than 30 years since the days of Hagler, where improvements in all areas of sports mean that a man can go on like Wlad to late 30s and into their 40s like Vitali at Heavy.
Brittish ref = home cooking.
George Groves.. “I want NO Brittish officials for Froch II.”
That’s from a BritPosted March 18, 2014 10:48 am
“He was pushed down and never really down on the floor.. He was squatting the whole time the count was on.. He was clearly up on his feet before the count of ten, which was never even uttered.”
Actually Tark, Chisora hit Scott with an looping overhand right and as Scott dropped to the canvas, he got tangled up with Chisora on the way. All Derek did was pull himself out of the tangle, hitting Scott with a right to the body as he did so. But down is down, and Scott took a knee and stayed there until the ref counted to “nine”, then Scott stood up. No idea why the ref stopped the fight though. Just the way Scott stood up–fast and strong–it was clear that he was ready to fight on.
Hmmm, maybe the ref could only count to nine. Maybe it was because it was a British ref?Posted March 18, 2014 10:35 am
….”Many with over 100 and sometimes 200 fights could be spent by the time they were 30-34.”
WOW… That’s GREAT!!! What Heavyweight Champion was that????Posted March 18, 2014 9:01 am
Oh WOW… Multiple times a month… That’s how Joe Frazier racked up 30-some pro fights.
Wladimir has MORE professional AND amateur fights than Ali, Frazier, Marciano, Louis, Lewis, Liston, Patterson, etc… He won the Olympic Heavyweight Gold Medal, and beat two (2) Olympic Heavyweight Champions. He would have beaten 4 if the lazy Audley Harrison and Lennox Lewis fought him.
Vitali had 47 pro fights, 210 amateur fights, and 36 pro Kick-Boxing matches.. That’s almost 300 fights. Freakin’ amazing.Posted March 18, 2014 8:58 am
Oh, dear! TARK has given himself an OUT, now with Wlad. TARK writes Wlad will be 39 by the time he faces Wilder, but he can’t bring himself to admit that fighters of the old school era and even 30 years ago, who fought multiple times a month, many with over 100 and sometimes 200 fights could be spent by the time they were 30-34. Today, being 40 years old is more like being 30 years old. Compare photos of sportsmen in their 30s today to those in the 70s and 80s. It’s crystal clear TARK.
wilder should retire briggs. how dangerous can briggs be?Posted March 18, 2014 6:32 am
Deontay’s next fight will probably be very tough… Stiverne will be the champ. He’s a very serious dude who knows Deontay has never really been hit hard since his amateur days.
If Deontay gets past Stiverne, Wladimir will be 39 before their fight happens. That will certainly be a mitigating factor in how that fight plays out. Age slows everyone.Posted March 17, 2014 10:18 pm
Scott got starched with a hook to the temple, it did not look like a hard shot, I mean was I seeing things? I watched the fight, if Wilder hits that hard then his next fights are gonna be easy paydays.Posted March 17, 2014 9:19 pm
Idiot Ernie wrote.., “The two times Scott fought anyone with a name he was stopped.”
Glazkov has a name.. He’s the undefeated Olympian who just wasted Tomasz Adamek.. Glazkov caught Scott with maybe 20 good punches in 10 rounds, so that “draw” was really generous considering he was outpunched 2 to 1.
Chisora has a name.. Scott wasn’t stopped there either.. Scott was up 4 rounds to 1 according to the Brittish commentators. He was pushed down and never really down on the floor.. He was squatting the whole time the count was on.. He was clearly up on his feet before the count of ten, which was never even uttered.
Scott fought three names so far… Wilder only three names total if you include busted ass Audley Harrison.Posted March 17, 2014 7:01 pm
american heavies are as strong as their beer.Posted March 17, 2014 5:18 pm
@tark. I absolutely give him credit where it’s deserved. I’m just curious. One has to wonder given the lack of rounds. He’s without a doubt the best American hopeful we’ve had for quite awhile. We shall see what the future holds.Posted March 17, 2014 5:15 pm
Oh man………… KL…….said that their…. not TK……….. sorry dudePosted March 17, 2014 5:06 pm
If it had been Tyson Fury in their with Wilder, and Fury was felled by a similar left to the ear you could bet your bottom dollar that Fury would have used every sinew in his body to get to his feet again……..with Scott……it was more like…..I can’t be bothered, I’ll get beat anyway even if I do get up”.
Give me a break man……he was clearly badly hurt by that left hook you retart!
And what’s…….. a ………quotation mark?Posted March 17, 2014 5:06 pm
You know….. sometimes I just wish……I’d listened in school….when they were telling us how to use punctuation…..BUT never mind.Posted March 17, 2014 5:02 pm
You know, I was going to write back and tell you that you have no idea what you’re talking about, but I just watched the fight back one more time, and you know what? You’re right! He was clearly hurt from the temple shot! If someone had just pointed that out from the start we could have avoided all this silliness! Thanks Ring General!Posted March 17, 2014 5:00 pm
Piss off Harry, the fight wasnt fixed. Malik was clearly hurt from the temple shot.Posted March 17, 2014 4:43 pm
You people will fall for anything. Actually, if you slow the fight right down and zoom in on Wilder’s face you can clearly see him saying to Scott “left hook, right hand, okay?”. That’s when Scott winks and nods, and seems to mutter “yeah okay, but not too hard, okay, just like we agreed?”. Wilder then winks back at him with a knowing grin just before he throws the punches.
If you didn’t see all that I don’t know whether you’re blind or just retarted.
The only genuine KO I’ve ever seen, that I can be sure was 100% real, was when Mayweather KO’d Big Show with those brass knuckles. Now THAT was a REAL fight!
Moreover, I PREDICTED it, because I AM the greatest fight prophet EVER born!Posted March 17, 2014 4:32 pm
Tark……..I was quoting Harry about his view that the Haye vs Harrison fight was fixed!!!Posted March 17, 2014 4:06 pm
TARK, we don’t always agree…….but I’m of the same opinion on you about Wilder.
The Wilder fight was a tank job. The analysts looked like total twits once it had been shown in slow mo a few times. Scott took a dive and one wonders how many of the other 30 victims took dives. Wilder remains an enigma and he has been matched very skillfully.Posted March 17, 2014 3:57 pm
OK… When you quote somebody use quotation marks… That way everyone knows right away it’s not you talking.Posted March 17, 2014 3:53 pm
KL…, Give me a break man.. Haye is 10 times the boxer and puncher Harrison was.. That was a much bigger mismatch than Haye-Chisora by 10,000,000 miles.
No need to fix that fight.. Harrison should have gone out in the first round.. The only reason he didn’t was Haye bet a huge amount of money on himself to KO Harrison in the 3rd round.. Audley tried like Hell to get through the 3rd.
And that’s a legal bet… Although it shouldn’t be… You should never allowed to bet on your own fights, even if you bet on yourself… With that caliber opponent, you can pretty much pick the round you’re going to knock him out in — and it’s going to be a non-event fight up until then.Posted March 17, 2014 3:46 pm
I very strongly suspect that e.g. Haye-Harrison was fixed too (on the replay you can even see Haye nodding to Audley and saying “now” before he lands the shots which finished it), but I suppose at least you can say Harrison took a few hard punches.- Harry.
Harry you crack me up….. sure there are probably a number of “fixed” matches…….just as their are fixed player incidences in team sports especially with the advent of spread betting…………BUT those that claim that on the replay they can see evidence of Haye saying “now” proves it was a fix is laughable!
OK… We know some people aren’t going to give Wilder credit for anything until he takes somebody into the 8th round and smashes the Hell out of him.
Scott was supposed to go some rounds, but he got caught with a freakish shot in the temple, with the index knuckle.
Liakhovich was supposed to be able to give Wilder some rounds, but he was caught with a freak right hook above the ear and went spazmodic… Wilder looks for the KO… That is all he knows.
So far… But that will change.
Deontay still needs to get his baptism, and it’s coming. Some people have no patience and are quick to dismiss any new heavyweight talent — mostly because it happens to be 2014 instead of 1975… But then, Larry Holmes got more negative brick-bats thrown at him in the mid to late 1970’s than any boxer I’ve ever seen in my life.Posted March 17, 2014 3:31 pm
“What a night of boxing. A comical dive and the other guy gets schooled and walks away with the belts. Is it Golden Boy or Al Haymon?” – Both. It was a fishy card top to bottom. Not good for the sport. The NBC Sports card was an honest night’s work for the fighters.Posted March 17, 2014 2:42 pm
Wilder seems a bit sloppy at times. Just wonder what happens when someone can take him into deeper water.Posted March 17, 2014 2:12 pm
Three opponents who either held the Heavyweight Championship, fought for the Heavyweight Champioinship, or were beating somebody who fought for the Heavyweight Championship after 5 rounds—who Deontay Wilder KO’d within 90 seconds, were: Sergei Liakhovich… Audley Harrison… and Malik Scott.
OK… That’s not an impressive list yet.
The list is growing… It’s not that impressive right now. Give Wilder at least 5 more fights before you call him a washout..
Wladimir, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Mercer, McCall, and about anybody else you can name, suffered embarrassing losses… So if Deontay loses a fight, don’t write him off.Posted March 17, 2014 2:05 pm
Clearly hard to understand sarcasm isn’t it. It is hard to convey without dialect. It’s ok.Posted March 17, 2014 2:05 pm
Most said Mike Tyson was going to KO China-chinned Buster Douglas. A lot of people thought the fight was a joke.
Didn’t happen. A lot of people said scott was going to box the bejabbers out of Wilder and knock him out in the 11th or 12th. That didn’t happen either.
That was Scott’s first legitimate loss in 39 fights.Posted March 17, 2014 1:52 pm
Jury is still out on this guy!! Still out. And he ain’t no MT, not at all. Mike would have ko’d this birdleg mofo.Posted March 17, 2014 11:59 am
Biatch slap, and dude goes down even though the right did not get passed his gloves. Even Paulie said it was a slappy punchy to the Malik meat head. Juey is still out on the fraudster who is getting his road to the HW Championship paved with gold and mold. THis fight stinks to high heaven.Posted March 17, 2014 11:57 am
scott is still a top heavyweight.just ask TARK.Posted March 17, 2014 11:03 am
Blind…or retarted. Not sure which
Posted March 17, 2014 9:22 am
I think it must be that you’re “retarted”, LOL!
If you’re going to accuse someone of being retarded, probably best if you learn to spell the word first!
RFLMAO!!Posted March 17, 2014 10:12 am
Another Sad day for Pacturds
Hey wazza. At least he’s never been knocked out like your god z pacroidePosted March 17, 2014 9:32 am
Another Sad day for Pacturds aka rem
Wazza. You really are one butt hurry dude. I can’t wait for you to eat your crow. When Wilder wins the heavyweight belt.Posted March 17, 2014 9:30 am
Blind…or retarted. Not sure whichPosted March 17, 2014 9:22 am
I agree with you Anonymous. Tark does seem to have conveniently forgotten how he sold Garcia, Lara and Pacquiao as the three men Mayweather was ducking and running scared from. How about Garcia rematches Matthysse?Posted March 17, 2014 8:48 am
The 1-2 combo landed for Wilder. All Wilder wins are by Ko and some in thefirst round.Posted March 17, 2014 6:01 am
Wilder must have super power in his punshes if that temple grace made him go out like that….give me a breakPosted March 17, 2014 5:43 am
and no coincidence that the clip of Wilder being knocked down by Sconiers is nowhere to be found on youtube or anywhere online. Take a hard look at Wilder and one will see all the hallmarks of an ultra protected fighter!Posted March 17, 2014 4:44 am
Hilarious that all of ESB were preaching how Garcia was the one to beat Floyd after Mathysee, and are now forced to admit that “swift” just got away with a pathetic robbery against an average opponent. Somewhat above average boxer exposed, finally.
Posted March 16, 2014 10:16 pm
The only one who was preaching this from the rooftops is TARK, who has conveniently forgotten how he was SELLING GARCIA to anyone who would listen.
TARK has gone silent on his boasts that Floyd was ducking GARCIA.Posted March 17, 2014 4:44 am
a” temple shot”? give me a break guys it was a set-up plain and simple. An Olympic boxer vs an Olympic diver is what we saw on Saturday night. Scott you are a disgrace! I am no heavyweight boxer but I would have lasted longer in there with Wilder than you did! Wilder – I feel for you man; you have a rude awakening coming when they put you up against someone who wants to fight back and not the bums picked up in casino parking lots or the friends who agree who to stay down that you been fighting and knocking out….Posted March 17, 2014 4:41 am
Harry..nobody was talking crap. Everyone was crying foul before the fight even started. Shots to the temple can mess up your equilibrium bad. That is precisely what happened. I’m not even a wilder supporter by any means. Just not blind either.Posted March 17, 2014 1:55 am
He didn’t want 2 finish the count? He’s trained with wilder….he must have known something?Posted March 17, 2014 1:43 am
That was a hard left hook to the temple with the index knuckle… It’s a tough shot to take, but it didn’t seem to knock Scott completely out.. It seems like he could have beaten the count if he tried a little harder.
I don’t think Scott wanted to be subject to “Wilder mania” … Wilder coming in and unloading the kitchen sink — that’s what he does when you’re hurt. He’s a freakin’ maniac.Posted March 16, 2014 11:21 pm
The fight should be Danny Slow Garcia vs Mauricio Swift HerreraPosted March 16, 2014 11:16 pm
Another Sad day for Pacturds aka rem
It’s called a temple shot.thats how Roy Jones was so damn good at …Posted March 16, 2014 11:14 pm
Judges beat Herrera not Garcia.Herrera won by split decision.Posted March 16, 2014 11:13 pm
Another Sad day for Pacturds aka rem
So Mayweather is avoiding Khan? He got ktfo by Garcia…. LolPosted March 16, 2014 11:12 pm
Hilarious that all of ESB were preaching how Garcia was the one to beat Floyd after Mathysee, and are now forced to admit that “swift” just got away with a pathetic robbery against an average opponent. Somewhat above average boxer exposed, finally.Posted March 16, 2014 10:16 pm
Fix ,dive, periodPosted March 16, 2014 9:58 pm
Anybody that wants to question the dive, just clue in to his eyes in the replay.Posted March 16, 2014 8:41 pm
What a night of boxing. A comical dive and the other guy gets schooled and walks away with the belts. Is it Golden Boy or Al Haymon? Let’s see how long this stuff will keep going on.Posted March 16, 2014 8:39 pm
Hit a bag hit a person with a HOOK And he falls but doesn’t fly 4 feet straight BACK .The right hand didn’t land at all let alone enough to send him reeling straight back..These guys had this planned out..Take a good look at Maliks career he has been fighting bums since 2000 and just recently has he fought anyone noteworthy…He took a dive for his GOOD FRIEND..Posted March 16, 2014 8:27 pm
Ponce was taking a beating, he was out on his feet. If you see the replay as soon as he felt the arms of the referee he started throwing sissy punches, too late to react if you ask mePosted March 16, 2014 7:56 pm
hw boxing has been in the toilet for 20 years period.Posted March 16, 2014 7:43 pm
Danny “GIFT” Garcia
I got schooled!!!!Posted March 16, 2014 7:37 pm
Didn’t seem like the same version of Scott that fought to a draw against GlazkovPosted March 16, 2014 7:04 pm
“@Boxtradamus Son, you a fool, boy!!”-Nope. I’m a WINNER Pops!!!Posted March 16, 2014 6:50 pm
must say, that ko looked suspect. very suspect.Posted March 16, 2014 6:41 pm
just before the combo Scoot winks at Wilder, signaling he is ready to go down, after the left hook, Scott is already starting to fall backwards before the right even hits, Wilder is laughing to his corner, doesnt even look back towards Scott until after the count is finished. This fight was fixed. What adisgrace..Posted March 16, 2014 6:21 pm
Left hook was a slapping shot meant to set up right hand..Malik took a dive and the reaction from wilder looks like he was in on it…Posted March 16, 2014 5:59 pm
Perhaps Scott could have a career selling popcorn, wearing that brown paper bag he had on at the weigh in? He’d have to remember to take it often regularly though: all that weight on his head could easily discombobulate him.Posted March 16, 2014 5:36 pm
Man! Scottie is such a softie, I thought the fight would have lasted a bit longer.Posted March 16, 2014 5:34 pm
Swedish Boxing Fan
Clap-clap-clap! Great win Deontay Wilder, great win. I mean a nice KO and getting the right to fight Stiverne or Chris Arreola for the WBC world title belt BUT winning the right by stopping Malic Scott was not an great achivement.
From the beginning there was never any positive respons to this but now its done and we move forward, still this doesen’t prove much to fans and critics.Posted March 16, 2014 5:28 pm
BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY
IF YOUR RUNNING OUTA NAMES I WILL GIVE YOU ONE!!!no nuts Anonymous!!lolPosted March 16, 2014 5:15 pm
BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY
YOU F#KING CLOWNPosted March 16, 2014 5:13 pm
Billy go back to boxing24 you wankerPosted March 16, 2014 5:10 pm
BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY
Anonymous is outa the closet!!!!or was it slipsies bruce the bumPosted March 16, 2014 5:07 pm
if you think that was bad get ready for david price.Posted March 16, 2014 4:51 pm
Yeah Harry that Lewis combo on Rahman was a thing of beauty, that right hand was just nasty.Posted March 16, 2014 4:42 pm
“Doubt the fight was fixed. The Left Hook landed right on the temple.”
He got *tapped* on the temple. There was no real power in that shot. It was thrown just to set up the right hand, which mainly landed on the glove.
If that’s all it takes to KO him, he’d better be careful walking through doorways in case he bumps the side of his head on the door frame.Posted March 16, 2014 4:34 pm
Doubt the fight was fixed. The Left Hook landed right on the temple.Posted March 16, 2014 4:15 pm
It was a lucky punch, Scott didn’t see it lolPosted March 16, 2014 4:09 pm
“Gutless Scott. But not Wilders fault.”
If it weren’t for the fact that they’re good friends, and supposedly regularly spar together, I might agree. But what happened, together with these facts (and the fact that Wilders paid no attention to whether or not Scott would get back to his feet) suggests to me they were in on it together, and that it was indeed fixed.Posted March 16, 2014 4:05 pm
“Ring General” my arse. I’d be willing to put money on it that you’ve never been in a boxing ring in your life.Posted March 16, 2014 4:02 pm
If you want to be reminded of what that left hook-right hand combination looks and sounds like when it *really* lands at heavyweight, put “Lennox Lewis vs Hasim Rahman BRUTAL KO” into Youtube.Posted March 16, 2014 4:00 pm
Put a sock in it Harry. The fight was not fixedPosted March 16, 2014 3:55 pm
AP had never been down in his life. Got knocked down by Wlad by a similar left “swipe”. BUT he got up and fought. I feel Scott got caught by a punch he didn’t see by a big man, big puncher and QUIT right there. I think he most certainly could have gotten up but showed up beaten before the bell. No heart. We actually see this all the time but usually it doesn’t look this bad. Gutless Scott. But not Wilders fault. His next fight are reputed great chins and fighters who will fight. We will see.Posted March 16, 2014 3:47 pm
Bottom line about Wilder-Scott:
Scott took a dive. Some of Tyson’s opponents (e.g. Bruce Seldon and Clifford Etienne) did the same. Whether they were paid to do it, or just took the money but had no intention of taking any punches, I don’t know, but it’s theft either way.
Both fighters should have their purses withheld and there should be an official inquiry. If you watch Wilder, you’ll see that he doesn’t even look back to check if Scott makes it back onto his feet. Given that they are friends, it seems to me that they were both in on it (i.e. it was fixed).
I very strongly suspect that e.g. Haye-Harrison was fixed too (on the replay you can even see Haye nodding to Audley and saying “now” before he lands the shots which finished it), but I suppose at least you can say Harrison took a few hard punches. Scott didn’t even do that.
But however it’s done, it’s absolutely corrupt and it should be criminal investigations into these things, just like when there’s match fixing in football. They are stealing ordinary boxing fans’ money and making a fortune for themselves (can’t remember how much Haye and Harrison both walked away with, but it was into the millions of pounds).
Absolutely disgraceful.Posted March 16, 2014 3:46 pm
sounds like every time there is a heavyweight fight next day most fans are laughing wonder why.Posted March 16, 2014 3:31 pm
thats the second time that bum scott has gone down from a clip round the ear pathetic.Posted March 16, 2014 2:58 pm
Fix ,dive, periodPosted March 16, 2014 2:57 pm
“scott vs wilder looked fixed scott never landed a single punch”
Did he even *throw* one??
He hardly received any either. I’ve been whacked round the head by my grandmother with more power.
Perhaps you yanks should do a rubbish remake of Vic and Bob (just as you make rubbish remakes of most of our comedies), with Scott playing Bob: “Vic I’ve fallen”.
Put “Vic I’ve fallen” into Youtube if you don’t know what I’m talking about. Then compare how Scott went down.Posted March 16, 2014 2:33 pm
The Golden Raspberry goes to Maaaaliiiik ScooooottPosted March 16, 2014 2:31 pm
“It seems everyone missed the temple shot left hook. That’s what did it.”
Don’t talk crap, please. There was no real power in that punch, and these guys are supposed to be friends who regularly spar together.
This was Tyson-Seldon all over again, or Tyson-Etienne, only worse. Scott should have his purse stripped from him. He had no intention of fighting. What he did is theft, and those who paid to watch deserve better.Posted March 16, 2014 2:29 pm
Good article. Good observations. Garcia lost that fight and there’s no two ways about it. Wilder is still a mystery. A slap of a left and a short right to the gloves and his opponent goes down and stays down! What? Regarding the decision to the Garcia fight, Paulie’s words said it all, “…it’s a shame that the judges missed a good fight.”Posted March 16, 2014 2:24 pm
scott vs wilder looked fixed scott never landed a single punchPosted March 16, 2014 2:19 pm
It seems everyone missed the temple shot left hook. That’s what did it. Delayed reaction but if you’ve ever been cracked in the temple you would know.Posted March 16, 2014 1:53 pm
@Boxtradamus Son, you a fool, boy!!Posted March 16, 2014 1:52 pm
Worst dive ever….never seen a dude get knocked out by a punch to the forearm lol…..love Juanma, but I’m not so sure he’s back. Ponce looked like he could have gone on. Never heard from Herrera before, but he sure had danny’s head popping back all night with that weak ass Jab. Even the crowd seemed relieved Danny got the decision. Fact is, if you go to La Isla, you need to knockout the other guy, just ask Salido, when he was beating Juanma like a redheaded step child, but still loosing the fight in the cards. Golden Boy really messed up with putting Danny with Herrera, dude is one of them types that will make you look bad, or at least that’s what he did last nite.Posted March 16, 2014 1:48 pm
Garcia WON just as I predicted! !!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!!Posted March 16, 2014 1:21 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Great win for Juanma, unfortunately it may give him confidence to step up and take more beatings. He seems to be showing signs of dain bramage recently, hopefully he will go out in style with this win, but I doubt it…Posted March 16, 2014 1:01 pm