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Hidalg0

“Is that why Ali got hit with all those left hooks his whole career??? And blooping right handers? Because his eyes were so good? Is that why a neophyte like Leon Stinks punched him in the face so much?”

Tark, perfection is hard to come by in boxing but that doesn’t mean Ali didn’t have “good eyes” as Bravo said. He saw more punches than he didn’t. So did Leonard. Floyd Mayweather Jr. is an anomaly. He is an expert at evading punches. Ali and Leonard, not so much.

Posted March 12, 2014 10:23 am 


TARK

Bravo! says.., “Floyd — along with Guillermo Rigondeaux — also has the best eyes (on par with Ali)”

WTF??? Did you examined Floyd’s, Rigo’s, and Ali’s eyes???

Is that why Ali got hit with all those left hooks his whole career??? And blooping right handers? Because his eyes were so good? Is that why a neophyte like Leon Stinks punched him in the face so much?

You don’t know a damned thing about their eyes. To be a great baseball player (hitter) you need great eyes. A boxer needs tons of practice, sparring, many fights, a great trainer, and super good sparring partners.

Posted March 12, 2014 1:55 am 


Hidalg0

LMAO! Tomato Can, stop that!!

Posted March 12, 2014 12:35 am 


Tomato Can

Did any ticks fall off of Manny, as he dashed about like a deer in a medow?

Posted March 11, 2014 10:10 pm 


Hidalg0

“I likened Manny’s running style to a graceful deer, which some of you didn’t didn’t quite grasp . I guess you guys haven’t spent time up in the mountains watching deer run gracefully through the pastures.”

So, Manny was hopping and leaping all over the place? Gracefully? I mean, cause that’s how deer “run.” Even across pastures.

Posted March 11, 2014 9:29 pm 


get over it

Hec dog fact is the jury is still out on Manny. And people vote with there feet and no one is running to see him fight the same guys over and over. Everyone knows he walked away from a fight with Floyd over the blood testing, and since getting KTFO by Marquez his ppv have gone in the trash. He needs credible fighters and big wins. Bradley and Marquez wont do it retard. So all you world awaits the new king quotes mean crap the reality is he has one foot on his grave and the other on a banana peel as far as his career is concerned. Credit is not given its earned and Manny has a long way to go to earn his back. Danny Garcia, Floyd, Maidana Paulie, Kahn, Porter, Thurman. Canelo. Ok who does Arum have? No one will touch Manny as long as Arum is in it. Guys are lining up to fight Floyd though.

Posted March 11, 2014 5:27 pm 


Hec Dog

Gentlemen, you guys need to give Manny Pacquiao a little more credit. Please don’t forget that after losing a fight to Ped Man Marquez, many of you thought he was done for good. Less than a handful of boxing champions have ever rebounded from such a loss. Manny Pacquiao is the exception. He not only came back, but he did so with a boxing style that the world had never seen him exhibit before. This artistic performance against a naturally bigger former world champion was simply phenomenal. Brandon Rios was another one of Manny’s victims. The man was a former champions, and champions must always be respected. Yes he was a 140 pounder, but fans must realize that Manny is only 5ft 6 inches tall, and has the build of a featherweight. This makes his legendary and unattainable 8 division titles miraculous. The record books have Manny Pacquiao listed as the only 8 division titlist in boxing history, and that can never be changed no matter how much people dislike him. Manny Pacquiao on paper is the greatest boxer of all time because of this accomplishment. When Manny wins another title on April 12, his naysayers will continue with their attacks on the living legend. Manny’s past is undeniable. His reign of terror beating the best of the best has no equal. He beat them all, and not just beat them but destroyed them. Manny will easily make over 35 million for one fight. His tax issues are being resolved, and he will always be a wealthy man financially and spiritually, the latter being the most important. Manny will never have to want because of people will always take care of him. Manny is an inspiration to all people even those that aren’t fans. He must be admired and respected because most want to be like him. The saying “Be like Mike” has now run it’s course, and the new highly touted saying heard in every neighborhood is “Be Like Manny.” Heroes have their time as Michael Jordan had his. Now it’s time once again for Manny Pacquiao. Manny is the best!

Posted March 11, 2014 5:12 pm 


te tumbo

Btw, latest update from L.A.: Nothing. Silence. not a single mention of Pacquiao’s* arriving in local print, broadcast, or online media. i will continue to keep everyone posted about developments on planet earth even while Hecdog continues to submit reports from the outer limits of space and reality.

Posted March 11, 2014 4:40 pm 


Hecdog

The legendary Manny Pacquiao is mobbed where ever he goes. The talks shows are competing against one other for the opportunity to get him on. As I mentioned in an earlier post, Manny’s run in the park with a full entourage was incredible. It was like following the President. I likened Manny’s running style to a graceful deer, which some of you didn’t didn’t quite grasp . I guess you guys haven’t spent time up in the mountains watching deer run gracefully through the pastures. This type of scenic beauty makes you appreciate life more. Manny Pacquiao is enjoying his blessed life. He understands each day is an opportunity to make someone smile or help someone in need. Manny knows that the world is on his shoulders as he continues to add to his legacy. Floyd Mayweather was at a press conference the other day to promote his fight against Marcos Maidana. The place was empty other than Floyd’s manager and promoter and a few journalists. No one cares about him anymore. Canelo also had virtually no one at his post fight press conference. Manny Pacquiao had 3/4 of Los Angeles trying to catch a glimpse of the champ. The PPV numbers for this fight will tell you just how big a star he is. Manny is the attraction because of what he has done in the ring. The pulverizing punches that have left a cemetery of broken bones adds more mystery to the natural power he posses. I can relate Manny Pacquiao’s mysterious natural power to the mystery of Stone Hedge. For years people have been dumbfounded by how those enormous stones were stacked. No answer has come about. These types of natural mysteries happen. Timothy Bradley will find out up close and personal just how much power Manny has left. Manny beats him in all facets of boxing. Come April 12, Bradley will be knocked out. The speed, power and the true fighting spirit of Manny Pacquiao will rise to the occasion and will win him another championship belt to store in his warehouse. Manny is the best.

Posted March 11, 2014 3:01 pm 


Havoc

If Floyd is the face of boxing and he is an all time great then boxing will die!!!! Boring fight can’t be good for boxing!!!!

Posted March 11, 2014 1:54 pm 


Hidalg0

Wow, waiting for 1/2 an hour and still no response from the boxing expert wonderful boy.

Posted March 11, 2014 12:19 pm 


Hidalg0

Think: Winky Wright/Joshua Clottey – high guard. Mike Tyson/James Toney – shoulder roll, and of course Floyd uses the crab guard all the time. And actually, Floyd will usually place his left glove low and his right glove high.

Posted March 11, 2014 12:18 pm 


Hidalg0

I’ll give you some hints, wonderful boy:

High guard: Both hands up
Crab guard: Arm across chest, other glove next to face.

Shoulder roll: Bob or turn.

Posted March 11, 2014 11:55 am 


Hidalg0

Hmmm, 13 minutes have gone by and still no response from wonderful boy.

Posted March 11, 2014 11:52 am 


Hidalg0

Wonderful boy, I bet you couldn’t identify a shoulder roll if someone did it right in front of your face. Makes sense. You can’t see what you don’t know.

Posted March 11, 2014 11:50 am 


Hidalg0

Time is up hot dog. I gave you about four minutes. You don’t know squat about boxing wonderful boy. Your only skills lie in throwing insults from the safety of your crib.

Posted March 11, 2014 11:45 am 


Hidalg0

BTW wonderful boy, Tark broke down Mayweather’s defensive skills a long time ago. You didn’t get it then either.

Posted March 11, 2014 11:41 am 


Hidalg0

“Hildago – we understood Bravo’s analysis just fine. You on the other hand never will, cause you refuse to.”

“WE?” You speak for everyone, wonderful boy? Please, without using the Internet, quickly define, in detail what a “high-guard” is and how it works. Also the shoulder roll, and the crab guard. Tell us all how Floyd uses the ropes in combination with his “guards.”

After all, you understood it all just fine. I’ll give you two minutes to respond in detail. If it takes any longer than that, you had to look it up BECAUSE YOU DON’T KNOW!

Posted March 11, 2014 11:39 am 


Hidalg0

“Floyd will do neither. He will walk Pacquiao down behind the high guard, move around and counter when Pac gets aggressive, BRUTALIZE him to the body and stop him in five.”

No, Floyd won’t stop Pacquiao in five rounds. Nor will Mayweather “brutalize” Pacquiao with body shots. That’s a nice dream, but that’s all it is. Floyd would beat Pac by UD and that’s it. It would be another Mayweather potshotting clinic with many exhibitions of Pacquiao’s lunging and hastiness.

Posted March 11, 2014 11:36 am 


Rich108

Yo Joe

Love listening to the show every week keep up the good work. Great hearing the insight of Ronny and James every week as well as your own inside info. Please Tell Gogi to stop referring to the whole of the UK as England.
Lookin forward to Tuesdays show.

Peace

Posted March 11, 2014 11:35 am 


Happyboy

Hildago – we understood Bravo’s analysis just fine. You on the other hand never will, cause you refuse to.

Posted March 11, 2014 11:32 am 


Happyboy

Havoc & Hecdog still disagree. Manny is still the best even with his face flat on the canvass,

Posted March 11, 2014 11:28 am 


Hidalg0

“He — along with Guillermo Rigondeaux — also has the best eyes (on par with Ali)…”

And Sugar Ray Leonard.

So Bravo!, how about not talking like a trainer and define all the types of guards. BTW, you only mentioned three of “five” that you said Mayweather used against Guerrero–shoulder, high guard, and crab guard–what were the other two? You also failed to mention Floyd’s use of the ropes.

Lay it on the line brother–if you’re going to use technical boxing terminology, make sure everyone who’s reading your posts understands what you are talking about. :)

Posted March 11, 2014 11:23 am 


te tumbo

BRAVO, I declare your post on Mayweather to be an instant ESB Classic. could not have said it all, as well, as you just did. it’s no coincidence that a prime and experienced Mayweather is undefeated. he excels at it all and has the smarts, reflexes, and instincts to deploy accordingly.

Posted March 11, 2014 10:11 am 


The Greatest Promoter of All Times

BRAVO, your post to REM is one of the best analysis of the Mayweather defence and is what I’ve been telling my students for years. But, there’s none as blind as those hat refuse to see.

Spot on fella!

Posted March 11, 2014 8:43 am 


Primeval Atom

Floyd should’ve been a cheerleader instead he’s such a tool

Posted March 11, 2014 8:27 am 


Bravo!

@Mansworld, did you read my post? i suggest you read it well man cause at no point i said Pacquiao can beat May. i’m saying May doesn’t rely only on shoulder roll defense, he has other guards too. i believe too May can beat Pacquiao easy in fact this is a mismatch.

Posted March 11, 2014 3:13 am 


Mansworld

Bravo I am confused Manny has a style to beat Floyd but 45 others couldn’t do it? Mannys style couldn’t stop Marquez, Bradley or Rios but it will stop the best p4p guy in boxing? lol Manny was KTFO by a guy Floyd walked all over Floyd has beat southpaws all his life fast don’t mean nothing if you cannot land on him he is way too elusive for anyone, Boxing IQ it what sets him apart he makes adjustments Manny will be totally outmatched if he get the balls to tell Arum to step aside we can stop the madness. Hell no one will even pay to see Mannys fights until he fights Floyd meanwhile Floyds fights sell out…

Posted March 11, 2014 2:57 am 


Bravo!

@Rem, Floyd doesn’t really fight southpaws from behind the shoulder. He fights them from a high guard. And while the roll itself doesn’t work — also known among some oldtimers as “The Mongoose” — the reason it doesn’t is because it’s meant to counter the trajectory of a right cross.

In fact, Mayweather is not even the best at that move. James Toney is. James Toney takes away more right hands than Mayweather does. Watch him vs. Roy Jones. He even discouraged frivolous right hand leads from Superman!!

HOWEVER, the roll is just one component of the Mayweather defense. Mayweather has several guards. Against Guerrero, he fought out of FIVE — count ‘em — 5, cinco, fem, F-I-V-E different guards.

To give you an example, Mayweather has the best high guard in the game. He can do it as well as Abraham, Clottey and Wright, if he really wanted to. He has the best crab guard, also.

He — along with Guillermo Rigondeaux — also has the best eyes (on par with Ali), the best upper-body movement, great footwork (only surpassed by Rigo, at this time), better instincts and really, if he wants to, can fight in the pocket with top quality professionals with his hands down.

The only one who has those qualities is Rigo. But he’s still an unproven commodity.

Against Pacquiao, he will simply do what he did to Gatti. There will be a HUGE disparity in speed. Pacquiao’s speed is deceptive; it looks like a tornado because he overwhelms people who put their hands up or people that trade with him.

Floyd will do neither. He will walk Pacquiao down behind the high guard, move around and counter when Pac gets aggressive, BRUTALIZE him to the body and stop him in five.

Anyway, I digress. My point is, people mistakenly and ignorantly think the shoulder roll is the bread and butter of Mayweather’s defense. It’s not.

It’s his eyes, uncanny instincts, fluidity and smarts. Each defense he has is better than anyone else’s.

Try to rough him up in close. You can’t. Try to beat him on the inside. You can’t. He ties you up better than Andre Ward and Bernard Hopkins, both of whom specialize in fighting that way.

Posted March 11, 2014 2:19 am 


Mansworld

Miadana is better than Kahn but really Floyd could have beat Kahn and Miadana on the same night. Canelo is a beat ad Floyd schooled him no one is a challenge he is too smart in the ring he knows what you are going to do before you do it, Pac would get his ass beat too…

Posted March 11, 2014 12:56 am 


Joseph Herron

Luke: “Just got caught up with the show…now lookin forward to tomorrow night’s show…who ya got lined up Joseph?? Tell me Mr. Chargin will be on…I got a few old school questions for him!! Thx again brotha for all the quality programming!!”

Thank you for tuning in, brother Luke!!

So far we have Ann Wolfe, Alex Ariza, and Karim mayfield!!

Posted March 10, 2014 11:08 pm 


Anonymous

Good to see HECDOG has finally come out of the closet.

Posted March 10, 2014 8:02 pm 


Hidalg0

“Manny was accompanied by his entourage as he ran the park like a graceful deer.”

LMAO! C’mon, Hec dog!

Posted March 10, 2014 7:34 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Hecdog
Do you like Manny?

Posted March 10, 2014 7:08 pm 


old guy

but if Maidana gets into the best shape of his life he has a chance

Posted March 10, 2014 6:40 pm 


old guy

can’t picture Maidana beating Floyd without a major upgrade in conditioning

Posted March 10, 2014 6:40 pm 


Havoc

At least we all agree that Floyd is a boring fighter. Nobody can dispute that!

Posted March 10, 2014 5:21 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“Floyd Mayweather is not scared of no opponent. I don’t duck or dodge nobody, but I earned my stripes. So I can pick and choose who I want to pick and choose.” – Floyd Mayweather. This is why we’ll never see him fight Pacquiao, Lara, GGG or Martinez.

Posted March 10, 2014 5:11 pm 


TARK

Nobody wants to see Floyd-Maidana… MM isn’t a threat… It gets so tiring watching Floyd try to get fights with 2nd rate opposition… Guys who couldn’t hang with the toughest fighters out there.

I’m talking about Lara… Garcia… and Pacquiao.

Posted March 10, 2014 5:01 pm 


Hec Dog

Manny Pacquiao made his way to Griffith Park in LA to pound the pavement as he ran numerous miles yesterday as part of his preparation for what most call “The Fight of The Century.” in reference to the Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier fight that happened back on March 8, 1971. Manny was accompanied by his entourage as he ran the park like a graceful deer. Memories of the movie Rocky come to mind as fans raced after him rtying to catch a glimpse of the legend. At one point, it was rumored that the thousands of fans there began to hum the Rocky theme song in unison. The scene must have been spectacular. The Wild Card Gym has been preparing for months ahead of Manny’s arrival. Manny Pacquiao’s popularity is growing by leaps and bounds. Manny Mania is as big as it has ever been. The fighter comes second to people on the street. Their interest in the the man, the human being, the congressman, the Bible study Teacher, the philanthropist, the father, the son, the brother and the husband. Los Angeles is now owned by the only 8 time division boxing champion. The fighter has brought hope back to the city. The economy grows and the criminals seize their crime every time Manny pays the city a visit. This is only the start of the party. Just watch what happens when Manny Pacquiao defeats Timothy Bradley in stunning fashion. Manny will be in charge. Manny is the best.

Posted March 10, 2014 4:37 pm 


REM

I find…..

Posted March 10, 2014 3:11 pm 


REM

I fight it very hard to discuss Floyd v Miadana because although I like Miadana hes an absolute stud of a fighter to the common man on the elite level of boxing hes a gatekeeper/journeyman. Now simply because Broner wasn’t worthy enough to get through the gate now Floyd gets to fight the gatekeeper. Now we get to hear about how Floyds beating his hundredth consecutive champ bla bla bla and the gimmick rolls on.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:10 pm 


teepee

I feel Floyd is going to beat the hell out of maidana if Floyd stick to boxing him and not trying to slugg with maidana cuz we know maidana had power but he is flat with no head movement . Broner didn’t throw enough punches Floyd will tho

Posted March 10, 2014 1:47 pm 


Hec Dog

I just want to mount Manny and ride him like the cowgirl that I am…

Posted March 10, 2014 1:44 pm 


teepee

Enough bout pac and Floyd I can careless if they fight at this point cuz Floyd is fighting different champs not the same old fights guys over and over

Posted March 10, 2014 1:43 pm 


Hec Dog

Manny Pacquiao’s has arrived and the song echoing through Los Angeles is none other than “The Champ is here,” “The champ is here.” The City has come alive since the news of Manny’s presence was broadcast on every City, State and Federal radio and TV station. The boxing world becomes as unsettled as a restless ocean before the fury of the hurricane begins. Manny Pacquiao is the hurricane ready to unleash a myriad of punishment on a man they call “Dessert Storm.” This will be a fight of redemption for boxing’s Super Star, Manny Pacquiao. It’s been two years since Manny Pacquiao was clearly of a victory against Timothy Bradley. Bradley himself said on the HBO post fight broadcast that he had to go home and see the replay to make sure that he won. Regardless, the moment of truth is coming soon, and the fighting congressman of the Philippines is in prime shape as never before. This fight will end by knockout at the hands of Manny Pacquiao. I watched Bradley fight both Provodnikov and Marquez. He was all but out and should have received a loss in the Provodnikov fight, and he did well against Marquez. Unfortunately for Bradley, he can’t out box Manny and he can’t out fight Manny. He desperately wants to prove that the first fight was not a fluke and his bad performance was due to two broken ankles, feet, legs, back and every other part of his body. This time around, Manny will catch Bradley with right uppercuts, and will end matter with the devastating straight left hand. Bradley will be hurt early, and the fight may not last 6 rounds. After the fight is over and Manny Pacquiao has won convincingly, I believe the time has come to allocate a mountain and begin sculpturing a Mount Pacquiao similar to Mount Rushmore. I realize there is a quantum leap from boxing champion to Mount Pacquiao, Manny’s impact on the wold’s economy and general better overall living cannot be denied. The stars of entertainment and sports will be ringside as usual. Ashanti, the world renown signing artist has already been penciled in to sing the National Anthem by Manny Pacquiao himself. Food from the Philippines is currently being selected and transferred over to one of Manny’s favorite restaurants as we speak. The man with a personal postage stamp is a man of importance. A doer that is always under a microscope. He puts himself out there because he is transparent and wants everyone to see he is what he is. A man full of honesty, respect, fairness, humility and courage. Manny Pacquiao’s fan base throughout the world is made up of every single culture. He transcends sports. I have never witnessed such pandemonium and excitement leading up to a championship battle in any sport. Please take in all that is happening leading up to this fight for we will never witness a legend like Manny Pacquiao ever again. The legend of Manny Pacquiao is back. Manny is the best, trust me.

Posted March 10, 2014 1:36 pm 


teflon

When Manny was winning Arum never wanted the fight with Floyd. He turned down 40 million and wanted 50/50 and to regulate the blood testing. It never benefited Arum to let Manny fight Floyd because he couldn’t guru the terms not only that by making Manny fight guys in top rank he keeps monies from both side. The only guys Manny will over face in Bradley, Marquez and Ruslan over and over. Manny jumps five weight classes and cant take big hits and give them out either he is juiced up or is superman, and since krypton is not a real planet, I am going with the first one. They need to have mandatory Olympic testing for all fighters but hell if they did that over half if the guys would be busted. Boxing by law only has urine test there a a million way to beat it…

Posted March 10, 2014 1:36 pm 


PEEJ

Pac and company should of taken the fight when Pac was in his prime and had 50/50 split of the purse. Unfortunately Arum came up with reasons on why the fight couldn’t be made.

Posted March 10, 2014 1:22 pm 


Dante

teepee

He is doing the right thing by fighting Bradley who won a decision over him and of course next up might be JMM who knocked him out. He can redeem himself with his last two losses and reposition himself in the Mayweather sweepstakes. The only problem, by the time this fight happens, Floyd will be 38 and Pac, 36. Time has passed.

Posted March 10, 2014 1:13 pm 


Dante

Joseph Herron

Dude…we’re supposed to be talking about the upcoming Madiana/Floyd fight on May 3rd…why does Pacquiao always infiltrate the conversation?

And why do so many Mayweather supporters attempt to villainize this poor guy?

What has he done?

Can someone please rationally answer this question?
Posted March 10, 2014 12:39 pm

Why is Pac thrown into the conversation when discussing Floyd and vice-versa?
Pac and Floyd are now linked together for the rest of their careers because they didn’t make one of the biggest fights happen. A fight in which disappointed the masses and left many wondering who would win in a matchup between the two. So all other fights are irrelevant and only serve as additional fuel for wondering who is the best of the two.
To give up on the talk of Pac/May, to many, is to give the two fighters a free pass in not making the fight which would continue to hurt the sport because the two supposed best P4P are not fighting each other.

“And why do so many Mayweather supporters attempt to villainize this poor guy?” Same reason why the Pac supporters attempt to villainize Floyd, because they can. They do it because they want the blame on the other guy rather than on their guy even though both have proven to be the bad guys in all this since they failed to work together like good guys and give the paying fans what they want…A FIGHT between two of the best in the sport “P4″ (supposedly).

What has he done?

He was a part of not making the fight happen.

He also proved to be quite human and when you are promoted as something else, something more “holy,” and people find out different, that you are human after all, that you do make mistakes and aren’t what people were led to believe, it comes back to bite you. That’s why I would suggest just be yourself and acknowledge you aren’t perfect.

Cool guy though either way. But that’s me admitting I already knew he wasn’t what he was promoted to be and accepted him as just another human being that isn’t going to be perfect.

Posted March 10, 2014 1:09 pm 


teepee

Pac has to prove he is worthy of a fight with Floyd right now after the steroid thing came pac had lost and has not fought anybody sense getting koed so why don’t pac show he had balls and fight Canelo or Guerra where ever he is lol or just somebody else not the same old top rank hand pick fights

Posted March 10, 2014 12:59 pm 


Joseph Herron

Dude…we’re supposed to be talking about the upcoming Madiana/Floyd fight on May 3rd…why does Pacquiao always infiltrate the conversation?

And why do so many Mayweather supporters attempt to villainize this poor guy?

What has he done?

Can someone please rationally answer this question?

Posted March 10, 2014 12:39 pm 


Dante

Alright, kind of a boring topic now.

I’m looking forward to the new stars in the game.

Posted March 10, 2014 12:19 pm 


Dante

REM

While the demand for Pac v Floyd is what it is theres no way Pac can accept a small cut and let Floyd keep like 150 mil in profit. I dont care if Pac got koed by Jinkee and his last ppv sold like 5 buys no one would accept that in Pacs shoes.
Posted March 10, 2014 11:33 am

And he shouldn’t get a “small cut” but he isn’t going to get the cut he desires at this point either. He should have found a way prior to the JMM fight. Politics. Bad for the fans.

He’ll fight Bradley, if he wins, he’ll fight JMM more than likely.

however, by this point, the fight will take place next year, FLoyd will be 38, Pac will be 36 and how much meaning to who is better will remain?

Posted March 10, 2014 12:12 pm 


REM

Bravo Pac brings insane physical tools to the table for a long time now Floyd has been fighting dudes athletically inferior to him. Pac has the ability to freeze and surprise Floyd with movement and position himself to land clean shots on Floyd. Then hes a southpaw so Floyd cant instinctually react with his shoulder roll defense. Tremendous power no Floyd has average power that doesn’t scare anybody plus he arm punches alot to score. Floyd will make Pac miss but he will also be hit clean and he knows this.

Posted March 10, 2014 11:47 am 


REM

While the demand for Pac v Floyd is what it is theres no way Pac can accept a small cut and let Floyd keep like 150 mil in profit. I dont care if Pac got koed by Jinkee and his last ppv sold like 5 buys no one would accept that in Pacs shoes.

Posted March 10, 2014 11:33 am 


Bravo!

Pac ain’t sh#t because he has too many fundamental flaws too beat Mayweather. Plus he hasn’t fought anyone that can develop a sensational offence from a watertight defense; like Mayweather can.

Pacquiao is a little like Roy Jones. In that he doesn’t always fight in a fundamentally sound way; but relies on superior reflexes and athleticism. This, the fact most of his opponents cant match his speed, and his barnstorming attack/work rate usually offsets his defensive lapses and singular dimensionality.

With Mayweather Pacquiao wouldn’t always be able land all the punches he normally does because Mayweather would block/counter and feed off them.

Then, once Mayweather started countering with intent Manny would be in serious trouble. Mayweather has serious power, it’s just that people don’t always realize it because he is so fluid like, and because he doesn’t always go for the kill.

He would walk Pacquiao into some beautiful but sensational shots. Not in the least as Manny has almost no defense at all, plus he leaves himself open with almost every combination and forward foray he wildly executes.

And, with Floyd you must have some kind of defense other than offence; if you’re going to get your hand raised. Particularly if you’re not fast enough to prevent Mayweather from getting to you in between combination punches.

And Pacquiao isn’t fast enough to stop Mayweather from doing that.

Posted March 10, 2014 11:02 am 


Dante

By the way, Floyd has always made it known that Arum was a problem but he wasn’t the total problem at the beginning. The drug testing issue was a bigger deal at that point which Pac wasn’t to happy about. Once that became a mess, “feelings” came in the way of business and it was over. Bob said some things, Floyd got pissy, Floyd said some things, and the one time peace offering to make the fight happen was done.

It’s like two parents that split coming together for the sake of the kids but once they are back under the same roof, they start to talk, history is brought back up, Money gets thrown into the equation, he said she said, etc. etc. etc….And the divorce is back on.

Posted March 10, 2014 10:25 am 


Dante

So for Pac being willing to negotiate with Floyd Now, Of course given his latest numbers and his need to restore what was lost legacy wise with being knocked out with JMM…but that is why he also might be set on fighting JMM next to clear things up.

Posted March 10, 2014 10:21 am 


Dante

REM

Pac has been willing to negotiate Floyd hasn’t. Floyd tries to negotiate from a position he isn’t in over Pac and his terms outside of testing are unacceptable. Pac is a revenue machine himself and the fight will do astronomical #s because its Floyd and PAC. If Arum was the problem why didn’t Floyd say that from the beginning. Its so odvious.
Posted March 10, 2014 10:11 am

JMM beat Pac. That hurts the marketable now compared to before. Pac vs. Rios didn’t do well on PPV. That hurts his negotiation power.
Arum is still involved and he wants positioning power in the fight. That’s not going to happen.

Pac vs. Bradley has to do well for better leverage in percentage in the fight.
Floyd vs. Maidana just has to not bomb like Pac/Rios.

Questions:

Do you think Arum should be involved in the Pac/May fight?

And if so, how much involved and what would his cut be?

What would Pac’s cut be considering his loss to JMM, the damage it has done for his marketability which showed up in his last fight with Rios?
Which is why we may have to wait until Bradley/Pac results are counted.

JMM/Pac seems more likely to happen next as well. That’s what Pac wants and so does Bob since its another “in-house” fight.

Posted March 10, 2014 10:19 am 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Who would want to wear any type of cloths with TMT “The Money Team” written on them? – But then again people who worship the Dollar = Money don’t love anything else so these kind of people want to wear it and I feel sorry for these people.

Floyd Mayweather Jr and his father and uncle lives in a fantasy world but one day he and his group is going to wake up and realise what the reality is like.

Posted March 10, 2014 10:13 am 


REM

Pac has been willing to negotiate Floyd hasn’t. Floyd tries to negotiate from a position he isn’t in over Pac and his terms outside of testing are unacceptable. Pac is a revenue machine himself and the fight will do astronomical #s because its Floyd and PAC. If Arum was the problem why didn’t Floyd say that from the beginning. Its so odvious.

Posted March 10, 2014 10:11 am 


Dante

ALEX ARIZA: “ARUM IS A GREEDY PIG…BOB IS THE ONE INTERFERING”
By Ben Thompson | November 24, 2011

exposed it all

Posted March 10, 2014 9:29 am 


Dante

Primeval Atom

So this is just on Floyd and not on Pac?

It’s not like Floyd didn’t try to negotiate with them at different points. The original negotiations was actually the easiest because that’s before Floyd got real pissy and TOp Rank and Pac shot him down.

Posted March 10, 2014 9:14 am 


REM

Boxtra…no not Zab but you do alot of people saying Bradley won and will again right. Its not a big deal it is what it is.

Posted March 10, 2014 9:12 am 


Dante

Primeval Atom

Floyd doesn’t like PACs boss? Right stay with that like a high school cheerleader!
Posted March 10, 2014 9:02 am

How is that?

Their past says they have issues with Money and Promotional reasons.

Given Floyd’s huge boost in Fame and Fortune after Arum, there is enough there to say Floyd was right.

AND, you forget, with Arum in the picture he has his hands on the money, something Floyd does not want or need of Arum.

**Why would he include Arum and let him have millions when he doesn’t need him in the picture and has made more money doing things the way he has without him than with him?

Posted March 10, 2014 9:09 am 


Primeval Atom

Floyd doesn’t like PACs boss? Right stay with that like a high school cheerleader!

Posted March 10, 2014 9:02 am 


KC

Boxing is boring…

Posted March 10, 2014 9:02 am 


Dante

REM

Bottom line is Floyd hasn’t faced anything close to Pac so to say with certainty that Floyd will do to Pac what he has done to other fighters is ridiculous. And I dont expect Floyd to take on big jmws like Lara and Martinez they are much bigger versions of Pac athletic wise and I believe Floyd has no chance in those fights I just want him to fight Pac.
Posted March 10, 2014 8:53 am

Agree, he hasnt faced someone like Pac and I don’t see it being easy.

In order to make the Pac fight, BOTH SIDES have to come to a reasonable deal and that isn’t going to happen with Arum int he picture. So its not all on Floyd. So you can also say “I just want Pac to face Floyd.”

Pac hasn’t made the negotiations easy either.

Posted March 10, 2014 9:00 am 


Primeval Atom

Floyd and his camp are scared always have been always will be! A coward dies a thousand deaths.

Posted March 10, 2014 9:00 am 


REM

Bottom line is Floyd hasn’t faced anything close to Pac so to say with certainty that Floyd will do to Pac what he has done to other fighters is ridiculous. And I dont expect Floyd to take on big jmws like Lara and Martinez they are much bigger versions of Pac athletic wise and I believe Floyd has no chance in those fights I just want him to fight Pac.

Posted March 10, 2014 8:53 am 


Dante

Cheezb

He simply doesn’t want Arum in the picture because of their past and him knowing full well that Arum isn’t needed at all except for handing Pac over to make the fight happen.

Floyd makes more money without Arum than with him. Pac can too since Arum’s big cut would stay in the pot. But Pac keeps resigning with Arum despite the numbers and reason saying otherwise not to.

Floyd however should not be allowed to take the full percentage that Bob would be out of since Pac should get a piece because without him, the fight doesn’t happen and sell. If Floyd was going to do that, then he would be in the wrong.

Posted March 10, 2014 8:31 am 


Dante

Cheezb

In my opinion it was Pacquiao scuppering the fight early on by dodging drug tests (and only agreeing to compromises way after Mayweather had already moved on)… but over time, Pacquiao became more desperate and there was a shift to where we’re at today, where Pacquiao really wants (needs?) the fight, but now Mayweather isn’t interested.

*

Agree to some level.

Posted March 10, 2014 8:12 am 


Dante

Cheezb

I think it has more to do with not wanting to give Arum money than Pac’s legal issue with Floyd since one could argue that Floyd was in the wrong for saying what he said in public about Pac without evidence to back it up. Saying what he said even if he felt that way is irresponsible without factual evidence and made him no better than the fans that accuse fighters of fixing fights, being on PEDs, etc.

Now that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have brought up the topic but he should have just kept names out of the discussion. He could have just made a broad statement about how “some” fighters fit the profile of getting “extra help” and that boxing needs to improve their testing protocol because the current one is out of date. And all his fights for now on will include such additional tests.

Posted March 10, 2014 8:10 am 


Boxtradamus

“one more thing Boxtradamus, arent you the same idiot that had angulo beating canelo by late k.o then changed and said canelo?get the f*** out of here”-LOL. Nope. GOOD guess though. I’m the same GREATEST Fight Prophet that took Canelo by ENTERTAINING stoppage on the DAY that the Fight was announced and then came back on Fight night to celebrate another prediction that came to fruition. I’m also the same GREATEST Fight Prophet that MY followers tried to emulate but they fell short making ME that much GREATER!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!!

Posted March 10, 2014 8:05 am 


Dante

And Yes, certain fighters like Lara, Martinez, GGG, etc. would give Floyd lots of trouble.

Lara, Martinez and GGG for example, all bring the Size advantage to the equation. But not just that because one division of size isn’t much of a problem for Floyd as it is the combination of Size and SKILL of the opponent that Lara, Martinez and GGG have. But that’s the same for any fighter including Pac.

And a fighter like Floyd who is Older now, it will be a lot tougher.

Posted March 10, 2014 8:01 am 


Boxtradamus

“yes Boxtradamus, your right….every expert, where?in the u.s.a?your another idiot…..of course there gonna favor mayweather here just like they would favor paqiou in the phillipines”-LMFAO! Please learn more about Boxing. They don’t favor Floyd based on nationality. They favor him based on SKILLS. IF it was based on nationality then they would favor Zab Judah over Manny Pacquiao TOO…but they don’t. NICE try at coming UP with an excuse though.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:59 am 


Dante

REM

If Cotto was an example of a fight that was harder for Floyd than what was JMM for Pac?

Steven A. Smith noted that Bob Arum was the main cause for that fight not happening.

If you want to throw someone in to the mix, even during his time with Pac, Alex Ariza blamed Arum and even threw out there that he didn’t understand why Pac turned down the offer from Floyd worth Millions more than he ever made.

Many also noted what Floyd wasn’t doing with Cotto as to the reason why Floyd made nice with his Father and the results showed in his next fight how he reverted back to more of what his Father had taught him and wanted him to do that Roger got him away from. Floyd was on cruise control.

Style matchups and how an opponent looks is talked about with both Fighters. So you do realize Pac looks great against certain opponents as well, right?

Posted March 10, 2014 7:55 am 


REM

Another thing thats sad to say but true is that you have alot to black boxers and trainers siding with Floyd out of solidarity and alot of latins siding with Floyd for the same reason or because of Pac beating alot of Latin fighters.

Posted March 10, 2014 7:11 am 


REM

Absolutely everyone at ESPN even Stephen A. believe that Mayweather avoided Pac. Despite Stephen A. believing Floyd would give Pac a boxing lesson he had to concede that by the information the biggest sports media outlet in the world had he could no longer defend Floyd against those who accused Floyd of being scared. Mayweather handling Pac with ease is a perception due to his performances against opponents whos styles are perfect to make Floyd look like he does and it does take a special fighter to look the way he has against the fighters hes fought however Pac is none of those dudes. The Cotto fight was a perfect example of what Floyd will look like when he takes that next step up in compitition he will not be so far ahead of those opponents (Pac, Lara and Martinez) and will be in a fight that he cant control because he doesn’t have clear style and athletic advantages over these dudes.

Posted March 10, 2014 6:55 am 


Dante

You have critics like Skip Bayless who are never called out on their ignorance on the topic because there are no Pro Boxers/Opponents of his that are ever on air to hush these idiots up about the topic of power. However, they do occasionally have on Pro Boxers, like Rios, like JMM, who will sit in front of Pac and tell him that Floyd beats him but that doesn’t sit well with Skip, like it doesn’t many fans.

Now that doesn’t mean I am hyping Floyd up or giving him a pass on not being able to work with Pac in making the biggest fight of the era, but I am not going to show ignorance on the topic of his Power or Ability or Style Matchups based on what I have heard from knowledgeable Pro Boxers.

Posted March 10, 2014 5:40 am 


Dante

soda pop

teflon, you seriously think just cuss mayweather can counter a punch with his feather fist that he can k.o paqiou out?who the hell does mayweather k.o?hes fast and can run circles around fighters i give you that, but hes no warrior im sure you know that.to be honest if you claim him to be yours im happy to hear that, mayweather does chicken right.
Posted March 10, 2014 3:34 am

Floyd actually has power according to his opponents. The big difference between him and Pac actually is that Pac let’s his hands go a lot more and includes volume and combination attacks to beat down and confuse his opponents more so than the current version of Floyd who used to do that down in the lower weight classes by altered his style as he got older and moved up to 147.

Floyd is very similar to Ali who when they both decide to sit on their punches, the can throw with pop. That’s why opponents get stopped in their track. If Floyd was throwing light punches they would continue to come forward like they do with Paulie M. but they don’t.

Even Freddie Roach has discussed this.

Posted March 10, 2014 5:35 am 


soda pop

My bad teflon ,no disrespect but your boy is faded.just like the real popinski, i box and drink

Posted March 10, 2014 4:13 am 


soda pop

one more thing Boxtradamus, arent you the same idiot that had angulo beating canelo by late k.o then changed and said canelo?get the f*** out of here

Posted March 10, 2014 4:03 am 


Boxtradamus

Equal MY azz. Every EXPERT ranks Floyd as BETTER than Manny. And every current Boxer does TOO.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:35 am 


soda pop

teflon, you seriously think just cuss mayweather can counter a punch with his feather fist that he can k.o paqiou out?who the hell does mayweather k.o?hes fast and can run circles around fighters i give you that, but hes no warrior im sure you know that.to be honest if you claim him to be yours im happy to hear that, mayweather does chicken right.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:34 am 


soda pop

recognize teflon, if you dont grasp the concept that styles makes fights then you either are A,retarded..B,thinking you watching ufc, or B, punch drunk….please come correct.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:21 am 


soda pop

teflon this style son you about to get educated…take notes.floyd dont throw combinations anymore…he 1-2 shoulder roll….he dont k.o anybody out unless its a cheap shot, ortiz or a white boy, hatton…..more importanly he wont go into the lions den like marquez to get into the position to get the k.o….be serious clown, this foo dont k.o anybody out.hes just so happens to be a great track star who put gloves on.styles make fights idiot, if you dont understand that then i forgive you aswell, stupid is as stupid does.

Posted March 10, 2014 3:17 am 


hookoffthejab

Cheatin Chihuahuas De Messyhoe

As long as everyone understands Canelo weighed 174+lbs fight night, he was fighting a broken, shot, old, slow as Mollasses Fighter destroyed in his last fight by Cuban Lara, Canelo was gassing after round 8, Angulo was tagging him in the 8th and 9th.. and the Ref, Judges, Press were bought and Paid for by GoldenFraude.. then you clearly understand yesterday was just a staged event to try and breath some life into Cinnabum after Mayweather Biatch slapped him for 12 rounds causing to tear up and cry like a spoiled kid who didn’t get what he wanted.
Posted March 9, 2014

Some truths spoken here ………….

Posted March 10, 2014 2:58 am 


soda pop

i hear you teflon but going back, im not taking up for either one, what im saying is that not 1 stuck out, there both equal since they didnt fight each other, what a shame.at leats de la hoya ran from trinidad but in the ring.

Posted March 10, 2014 2:56 am 


teflon

soda popinski Manny is the one who walked away from the fight in 09 remember that? And what style does Manny have if he couldn’t stop Marquez, Bradley or Rios? I guess these guys can handle it but Fold cant lol.. Manny gets countered and KTFO by Marquez and Floyd is the best counter puncher in boxing so what style are you talking about? Who can even land on Floyd?

Posted March 10, 2014 2:48 am 


real og

Virgil Hill makes too many excuses for his fighter. He got stopped by Lara now Canelo live with it. Hell the only guy he got is Ward…

Posted March 10, 2014 2:44 am 


soda popinski

when im asked who was the best in my era, no doub…floyd and paqiou, not one or the other.just cuss your undefeated doesnt mean sh***.all the best lose,ali,chavez,leanord,duran.name them, theve lost….no one in the world could say mayweather was the best in his error, why?he didnt face his equal.doesnt matter whos to blame, the point is he didnt face him.and please scratch this bull that mayweather beat marquez who beat paqiou bull…anyone who lives by this logic clearly doesnt watch boxing.explain this, why frazier beat ali who lost to foreman who then lost to ali, or duran beats leanoard and gets k.o in 2 by hearns who lost to leanord, beleive me theres plenty more, styles do make fights….or dont you morons know anything.

Posted March 10, 2014 2:44 am 


Boxtradamus

I have to say that Canelo is extremely SISSYFIED. Coming IN at 19 lbs above your division limit means that you are trying to take advantage of SIZE. MAN UP and move to MW or SMW.

Posted March 10, 2014 2:40 am 


real og

Floyd is the man without Manny

Posted March 10, 2014 2:31 am 


murderman

Floyd should vacate 154 title. He already beat the best guy there. He should finish his career at 147 where he belongs. Hopefully pick would be willing to leave top rank briefly to make a pac vs may fight. We all know as long as he is w arum the fight is a no go. I believe Bradley hasnt re up w arum. He may be putting himself in position for a maga fight w floyd. Honestly i think Bradley would give floyd i tougher fight than pac

Posted March 10, 2014 1:06 am 


murderman

Broner just cant cut it at 147. He has outgrown 135. Only option is 140. Not sure if he is good enough to beat garcia or mathysse. However he maybe able to be peterson or any of the other guys at 140

Posted March 10, 2014 1:01 am 


Auzbox

Is that your tip, cause you picked broner over maidana one of your many wrong picks hahaha

Posted March 10, 2014 12:46 am 


Boxtradamus

NOPE. Bronner should take a tune UP at 140 before pursuing a CHAMP.

Posted March 10, 2014 12:23 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

So Adrien “The Weight Problem” Broner thinks he can go back down to 135lbs and maintain that weight? Okay, I’ll believe it when I see it… lol. Guess his handlers are smart enough to realize that he’d get destroyed by the elites at both 140 and 147lbs. Shoot… I’d be surprised if Broner could beat LWs Gamboa, Crawford or Figueroa.

Posted March 9, 2014 11:47 pm 


Hidalg0

“Gogue is one of the sharpest knives in the boxing drawer. LOL”

Yeah, I’m just the butter knife. LOL!

Posted March 9, 2014 11:37 pm 


Joseph Herron

Thanks for tuning in, Bustajay!! Call me anytime, brother!! Thanks for watching the fights with me as well!! God Bless you, man!!

Posted March 9, 2014 11:36 pm 


Hidalg0

I’d like to see Alfred move up to middleweight. I think he’d do much better there. It’s unfortunate we didn’t get to see him at his best last night.

Posted March 9, 2014 11:36 pm 


Hidalg0

I’ll listen to the opening segment tomorrow. :)

Posted March 9, 2014 11:34 pm 


Joseph Herron

Check out the opening segment. in case you missed it…when you have some free time, Hidalg0.

Thanks again for chiming in, brother!!

Posted March 9, 2014 11:24 pm 


Joseph Herron

If that’s the case, then you are one brilliant boxing genius.

Gogue is one of the sharpest knives in the boxing drawer. LOL

Posted March 9, 2014 11:22 pm 


Boxtradamus

Canelo WON by ENTERTAINING stoppage just as I predicted!!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!

Posted March 9, 2014 11:20 pm 


Hidalg0

Great show again Joseph. As I’ve said a couple times before I think mine and Gogue’s brains are synchronized. LOL!

Posted March 9, 2014 11:17 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Your calling of the fight again was spectacular

Posted March 9, 2014 11:10 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Joseph
Is Paulie looking to fight Porter next 6 months?
You know my girl making me inquire….LMAO

Posted March 9, 2014 11:07 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Good point Joseph
The talk between a trainer and boxer should almost be like DR talking to us

Posted March 9, 2014 11:05 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Robert has some valid points but Tony REF was too quick to stop this fight

Posted March 9, 2014 11:03 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Wilder best be ready

Posted March 9, 2014 10:56 pm 


Joseph Herron

hey there, Hidalg0…hold tight…we’ll get you in

Posted March 9, 2014 10:45 pm 


Hidalg0

Or James :)

Posted March 9, 2014 10:38 pm 


Dante

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

He is defending his WW title right now. He just fought at JrMW.

We will know by his next fight if he keeps the title or not.

Posted March 9, 2014 10:31 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Back in line bro…678 now

Posted March 9, 2014 10:19 pm 


Hidalg0

joseph, you got a moment for me to talk to Ronnie a sec before the end of his segment?

Posted March 9, 2014 10:14 pm 


Hey, That’s My Bike!!!

I hear that you were calling the fight Mr Herron. What did you think of the ref decision to stop the fight?

Posted March 9, 2014 10:00 pm 


Hidalg0

Sh##! I missed the first hour of the show–forgot about the g.d. time change!

Posted March 9, 2014 10:00 pm 


Joseph Herron

from what i’m hearing, molina is the top candidate right now

Posted March 9, 2014 9:51 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

When is FMJ actually going to defend his 154lbs titles??? If he doesn’t fight Lara, 3G or Maravilla after Chino… it’s only fair that he vacates. Afterall, FMJ calls himself the Jr. MW Champion of the World — even though he’ll refuse to defend those titles without B.S. catch-weights and other special stipulations. If not, FMJ better pick a REAL legit challenge at WW like PacMan, Bradley, Thurman or Garcia. Not just another walk-in-the-park guaranteed win like Maidana, Guerrero and Ortiz.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:39 pm 


Hidalg0

I don’t believe anything I hear, see, or read anymore until a formal announcement has been made that a contract has been signed and the fight will happen. I’m tired of the BS in boxing over the past four years.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:37 pm 


BUSTAJAY

BUSTAJAY

478—in line just to brag on your RD BY RD CALLING

Posted March 9, 2014 9:07 pm

Sorry got to pop out….be back in 45 mins

Posted March 9, 2014 9:11 pm 


Martin

Anyhow, they are my predictions for the day. I must sleep.

All the best for the show, Joe!

Posted March 9, 2014 9:08 pm 


BUSTAJAY

478—in line just to brag on your RD BY RD CALLING

Posted March 9, 2014 9:07 pm 


Martin

Tickets for Froch-Groves II at Wembley Stadium go on sale tomorrow at noon, starting at £30.00. I don’t expect it to sell out quickly (if at all), but I won’t be surprised if they sell upwards of 30,000 tomorrow alone.

Posted March 9, 2014 9:06 pm 


Martin

@Joseph

Aha: now that would be telling ;-).

Posted March 9, 2014 9:03 pm 


Joseph Herron

you’re right on the money, Martin!! i want to know where you got your info…LOL…have you hacked into my emails? LOL

Posted March 9, 2014 8:58 pm 


Martin

Looks like GBP are set to announce Khan-Collazo at 147 on the Mayweather-Maidana undercard. (Khan-Guerrero has also been talked about, but I think that’s much less likely.)

As for Broner, it seems he’ll be fighting either John Molina or Humberto Soto at 140.

Posted March 9, 2014 8:56 pm 


GGG the welterweight fighter

Let the Mayweather hate start now.

Posted March 9, 2014 8:45 pm 



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