Hopefully mayweather won’t star running around like he always do, I. Would like to see him go toe to toe with a real Mexican boxer, so he can get his ass beat.Posted September 6, 2013 6:10 pm
Canelo, is about to be taken to “Escuela” and he will have the usual excuses.. “the weight” “I was close with my punches” “hes a Great fighter” …. Go by a Ferrari and lick your impending wounds Canelo, the good part is the odds of you having to face another boxer as talented as Floyd Mayweather during your career are LOW…. He is a guy that comes along once every 50 years a combo of speed, defense, smarts and ring IQ rarely seen… The man rarely takes a clean headshot and has thus kept himself fresh with hard training and unreal stamina… Young Canelo is about to learn there are “Levels to this ISH” (Meek Mills song)Posted September 6, 2013 11:44 am
..oh yeah…..it IS Sredmond………Posted September 6, 2013 5:59 am
All Great fighters have detractors, Floyd Mayweather has utterly defeated 21 current and former World Champs. Won World Championships in 5 divisions, lineal Championships in 3 divisions he has been fighter of the year multiple times and was 2nd for fighter of the decade…17 years later he is Undefeated and ranked P4P #1 in the sport pushing 37… He is making MORE money than God… Sooooo a few disgruntled Internet posters mean what? When Ring Mag and all other credible bodies say unanimously Floyd Mayweathers the BEST in the World… He will be collecting a min of 41.5 mill to add to his unreal legacy… This is reality
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Rocco Di Salvatori just destroyed and OWNED SREDMOND… LMFAO!Posted September 5, 2013 3:51 pm
Rocco Di Salvatori
I guess we’ll just have to disagree. Some folk are just impressed by brightly colored trinkets and baubels, and some of us know better. I’m sorry but someone who actively goes out of their way to avoid fighting the best, and none have exemplified this better than Floyd Mayweather, does not deserve to be considered among the greats. He’s a very good fighter but he’s far from a legend.Posted September 5, 2013 2:07 pm
NOOOOOOO boxing fans are NOT gonna hold them in “HIGHER REGARD” because they DON’T NOW… Who is the #1 fighter P4P in the world consensus? ANSWER Floyd Mayweather Jr Ring Mag, ESPN, Sports Illustrated, Who is the TOP earner in ALL of professional sports? Floyd Mayweather 85 million for 2 fights total work 72 actual fighting minutes..You say “Marquez dared to be Great, which I agree with” what happened when he DARED to be Great against Floyd Mayweather after 21 months of inactivity? he lost every round by ridiculous scores and was knocked to the canvas… Pacquiao DARED to be Great against Marquez and eked out 3 wins and then was almost KILLED by a 39 year old version of JMM a fighter that Floyd Mayweather barely broke a sweat facing…. Floyd Mayweather is the TOP talent of the generation and MOST others, this is EASY to see and the reason he is undefeated across 5 weight classes, 17 years of boxing, multiple HOF fighters and 21 World Champs… Get set Canelos only gonna add to his accolades when he boxes the Unified 154 pound Champ silly spotting him 14 years and at least 17 pounds of mass fight night….Posted September 5, 2013 1:33 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Rocco Di Salvatori is on Beat Street.Posted September 5, 2013 11:13 am
Rocco Di Salvatori
Marquez and Pacquiao dared to be great, Floyd Mayweather never dared venture near the kind of dangerous high risk opponents they fought. That’ why I and the rest of my fellow boxing fans will always hold them in much higher regard than Floyd Mayweather, whose entire career was all about conning the public into believing he was one of the greats when in reality he just spent all his time cherrypicking and avoiding every single dangerous opponent out there when they were in their prime.Posted September 5, 2013 11:02 am
Saying Marquez did not beat Pacquiao is deep denial and delusion YEAH he did and in a MOST emphatic fashion… All battles were epic but this was a super conclusive and picture perfect ending for JMM… He turned out Pacquiao’s lightsPosted September 5, 2013 9:57 am
“He never did once beat Juan Manuel Marquez, regardless of what the “scorecards” said. The fifth time around, Marquez CRUSHED Pacquiao”
Bluesman, a few things:
1. Pacquiao did beat Marquez in their first fight. He knocked Marquez down three times in the first round which gave Pac a four-point advantage very early in the fight. Had one judge not erred in his scoring, Pac would have won a narrow decision rather than earned a draw with Marquez. The judge even admitted his error after the fight.
BLUESMAN if floyd has the balls to fight pac,,as long as the judge will not use an olympic style of judging I know manny will win by the decision but floyd will taste a KO maybe in rd 3 or 4.Posted September 5, 2013 2:28 am
BLUESMAN if floyd has the balls to fight pac,,as long as the referee will not use an olympic style of judging I know manny will win by the decision but floyd will taste a KO maybe in rd 3 or 4.Posted September 5, 2013 2:27 am
BLUESMAN remember that marquez needs 4 fights just to KO pacman but the pac need 1 round of first fight to put marquez ass in the canvas,,marquez got lucky punch to pac,,,,I called it lucky coz the main strategy of team marquez is to avoid the KO just to win the game..to bad for pac got careless in the last seconds of the round..but thats part of the game…no complains.Posted September 5, 2013 2:20 am
emmanuel “manny pacman” pacquiao the best fighter in all era of boxing!Posted September 5, 2013 2:15 am
Pacquiao was a very good fighter, but I wouldn’t go so far as to call him a great fighter. Some of his title defenses include wins over Ricky Hatton, Oscar Dela Hoya, and Antonio Margarito, all of whom were well washed-up by the time Pacquiao fought them. He never did once beat Juan Manuel Marquez, regardless of what the “scorecards” said. The fifth time around, Marquez CRUSHED Pacquiao. Pacquiao is a glorified slugger, and although he’s had a fairly successful career, it is far from great. Marquez counter-punched the crap out of Pacquiao each time they fought. Mayweather beat the crap out of Marquez, knocking him down in the process. Marquez is an excellent counter-puncher. Mayweather, on the other hand, is one of the very best counter-punchers the sport of boxing has ever witnessed, and would counter-punch Pacquiao to a late round knockout win. Pacquiao is not worth Mayweather’s time.Posted September 5, 2013 12:55 am
Pacman was the theat. Canelo is what floyd will say was great, and the rest of us will say , no not great, not Pacman.,Posted September 4, 2013 11:06 pm
Canelo Alvarez is about as much of a threat to Mayweather as Odlanier Souless is to Wladimir Klitschko. Mayweather-Alvarez will be a technical mismatch, with Floyd stopping Alvarez late.Posted September 4, 2013 11:01 pm
Sal the Butcher
Tumbo will jizz all over the place if Canelo wins. Stand away from the monitor or you will get wet.Posted September 4, 2013 9:29 pm
No. not at all…Posted September 4, 2013 8:53 pm
Hell no! He is a HYPE JOB! He has fought smaller fighters who were not ranked in his division…was given a belt (he fought Mathew HATTON!!!! who moved up in weight for the fight!, fought old fighters and was given a gift against TROUT! He has 3 rounds to make magic and then he loses a decision!Posted September 4, 2013 8:31 pm
Another SMART move by Mayweather then. HE is the one that demanded that they put the Matthysse Fight on his undercard but he doesn’t get any credit for the Double genious that he IS. He’s a genious marketer and Boxer WOW!!!! How many people are genious at TWO things??? Most aren’t even geniouses at ONE….ME, I’m a Fight picking genious. Take Mayweather by Decision here.Posted September 4, 2013 4:54 pm
“Reality Check only delusional Mexican Fans will be dumb enough to buy this PPV and both Floyd and Canelo know this.. They had to add the Matthysse vs Garcia fight to attract other groups…” – PE makes a good point. Mexicans and Mexican American fans will drive these PPV sales, as they always do. GBP was smart putting Matthysse-Garcia on the undercard. This will prompt fans who are on the fence to buy it. In fact it’s the only reason we’re buying the PPV. We’re presuming Matthysse-Garcia is balls to the walls action and the main event is a snoozer, just like most Mayweather fights.Posted September 4, 2013 4:41 pm
Williams would of been destroyed by Floyd. There wasn’t a punch Williams didn’t like blocking with his face. Sorry but Floyd would of beat Williams.Posted September 4, 2013 4:28 pm
Paul Williams got beaten by Fighters who were MUCH LESSER than Floyd. His LOW Boxing IQ would have gotten him slaughtered by Floyd. You can’t BEAT Floyd IF you can’t THINK. And Paul Williams was NOT a Thinking man’s Fighter. IF you think he IS then please learn more about Boxing.Posted September 4, 2013 4:28 pm
The Paul Williams that picked Winky Wright apart would’ve made very easy work of Floyd. Chico was a bad comparison. PW didn’t use his height well but his angles and unorthodox attack would’ve overwhelmed lil Floyd. Floyd had absolutely no shot at beating PW. PWill, Martinez, Lara, Trout, Pac Floyd doesn’t want any part of any of them.Posted September 4, 2013 3:52 pm
William.., Paul Williams was very tall, quick and athletic, but had lousy skills.
Particularly a lously jab that had no punishing power … and a lousy straight left that he couldn’t land on anyone but Carlos Quintana. Williams’ poor defense and brawling tendencies finished the package.
PW would have been almost as easy as Corrales for Floyd. It wouldn’t have been a KO loss—but Paul would have taken a brutal beating.Posted September 4, 2013 3:20 pm
Jesus Christ, what is this guy like 10 yrs old?? Man, your mom seriously has got to put “parental mode” on your computer to keep you from getting on ESB and running off at the mouth like a kid crapping all over this place. You stink the place up boy.Posted September 4, 2013 12:41 pm
I think Floyd will win on points …. but yeah, Canelo is a threat. He is bigger, stronger, younger and at his peak. If a past-his-best Cotto can give Floyd a good fight then so can a peak Canelo.Posted September 4, 2013 11:48 am
No way that Floyd puts this kid head first in the corner like Hatton and no way for a good night Victor KISS.
This kid will have Floyd spinning on his heals most of the most but Floyd will still out box and out point him fora nice 12 rds.
I do see the kid winning 3 or 4 rounds with clean power shots but he will get tired of missing and slow down to accept his pot shots from RD 5 to 12.Posted September 4, 2013 11:42 am
Okay okay I went overboard, so canelo may not have his eyes swelled shut, lol but maybe mayweather wants to make a statement as he may be retiring soon so I went out on a limb. I see the fight as 8 or 9 rounds mayweather and 3 or 4 rounds to cancel. Mayweather will loose some rounds but his overall technical ability should be to much for canelo unless he can land a haymaker in there to end it, and he couldn’t get trout out of there so I don’t have any reason to think he will get mayweather out of there. Canelo will have marks on his face and know he was in a fight then how about that.Posted September 4, 2013 11:31 am
Reality Check only delusional Mexican Fans will be dumb enough to buy this PPV and both Floyd and Canelo know this.. No one will buy this card other then them.. It’ll be another humiliating night for another Hyped up Mexican do nothing. They had to add the Matthysse vs Garcia fight to attract other groups but I think most people will just wait until the next day to hear the results or go to thier local Wing Joint..Posted September 4, 2013 10:42 am
Chavez Cheato Junior has been exposed as a cheating bum and soon Cinnabum will also get exposed.. as I predicted years ago.. then we can move on to the next Hype Jobs..Posted September 4, 2013 10:28 am
Can’t wait for the following Sunday after Floyd gives Howdy Doody a humiliating Boxing lesson to hear all the excuses as to why Cinnabum lost to Floyd.. it’ll be funny..Posted September 4, 2013 10:26 am
What’s motivating Floyd for this fight is pure $$$ he knows that all these cool aid drinking Cinnabum fans will pay to see Floyd Boxed Howdy Doodys ears off.. it’ll be an EZ night for Floyd and then he moves on to Paquiao or a rematch with Cotto..Posted September 4, 2013 10:24 am
Well if he doesn’t at least come in at 154 he will lose his titles and then will have to decide if he wins if he can make 154 or if he will have to give the Championship belt up. Either way I am picking Floyd to stop him late. If Canelo comes in over 152 he will take an L and be fined.Posted September 4, 2013 10:20 am
On second thought, Canelo can play Superman as long as Oscar plays Jimmy Olsen.Posted September 4, 2013 10:09 am
what’s motivating Floyd for this fight is the genuine threat and challenge that Canelo poses. Mayweather is among the fiercest competitors in the sport and prepares accordingly. he will be 100% prepared to deal with the threat of Canelo. in case of an upset, there will be no excuses (can’t rule-out controversy). BOTH fighters will be thoroughly prepared to deal with the mutual challenge of derailing established or emerging greatness.Posted September 4, 2013 10:09 am
I doubt that he is going to come close to 152 let alone make weight for the weigh in. Perhaps I am wrong. We shall see. is not isn’t —sorry.Posted September 4, 2013 10:07 am
First off, Canelo has to stop the “Superman” posing – he’s set to box Floyd, not save the world. Second, looking at recent photos of Canelo, I doubt that he isn’t going to come close to 152 let alone make weight for the weigh in. Perhaps I am wrong. We shall see.Posted September 4, 2013 10:06 am
“Canelo youth are all thats going keep him from getting KO’d because at the end of the fight he will have shades on cause his eyes will almost be swelled shut.”
Jim Rich, please name Floyd’s last opponent whose eyes were “almost swelled shut.” That isn’t going to happen to Alvarez. Especially if he works his jab throughout the fight.Posted September 4, 2013 9:36 am
“If Floyd wins this fight he should finally get tons of respect from his detractors.”
It’s still a catchweight fight which basically means Canelo is giving Floyd a handicap. So I’m thinking that “tons of respect” don’t need to be all that heavy.Posted September 4, 2013 9:27 am
PRdancer, I know you’re talking about Mayweather but what does “PFM” mean?Posted September 4, 2013 9:19 am
This is a very good fight, PFM stepped up to the plate to face a guy many think has a real chance, IMO, Canelo showed against Trout that he is one of the best 154lbs,,PFM is not a natural 154lbs, youth and weight advantage for Canelo but it ends there, every other category belongs to PFM, the weight advantage means Canelo physically stronger than PFM, but PFM coming in the out box the bigger man using his experience, speed, defense, etc,,,because Canelo is NOT a power puncher but a solid puncher I think PFM will beat him every day of the week if 100% and fighting smart, I do expect some good moments for Canelo here and there during their 12 rds fight, PFM 12 UD,,,,peacePosted September 4, 2013 7:32 am
MNboxingFAN – Sean
Canelo has no shot. Floyd doesn’t even get hurt or knocked down for crying out loud. Suddenly someone will be “The One”?!? This isn’t a movie. This is real life. Canelo will get taken to school like everyone else. He’ll be happy because fighting Floyd will make him a better fighter going forward. Plus he’ll make a ton of money and assuming he puts on a good show… he’ll gain fans from Floyd’s flock of supporters… but a Canelo win?!? Not in the cards… not even in the deck!Posted September 4, 2013 7:24 am
the first Holyfield vs Bowe fight was something else, the punishment they took would have killed your average human being,not a great deal of finesse but awesome stuff to watch. Bowe had a great short fast uppercut for such a big guy.Posted September 4, 2013 3:56 am
Overall, I’ll continue to watch Floyd for what he does inside the ring. How he outthinks his opponents. How he adjusts. That’s what pure boxing is about even though many of us, especially the casual fan, love to watch the Gatti vs. Ward, Corrales vs. Castillo, Bowe vs. Holyfield fights more so.
But that is what makes Floyd more enjoyable: Few come close to fighting with his overall ability.
Nice to talk to you too.
Have a Joyful Day/Night.
William.Posted September 4, 2013 3:47 am
Canelo’s chances is “IF” Floyd reverts back to certain tendencies like getting stuck in the corner and trying to fight off the ropes. There, is when Canelo is at his most lethal. josesito lopez is no Floyd Mayweather, but it did show us that Canelo’s ability to put very good combinations together with speed, precision and power, were very good against stationary targets. Against Trout, a fight Floyd watched, Canelo wasn’t as effective.
Floyd needs to Jab, he needs to move, he needs to fight like his Father taught him to fight. He needs to make it boring as some of the fans will say. Or as George Benton once put it: Win this fight, look good in the next one.
Body-shots from Bigger fighters can become an issue. Floyd still has that frame of a JrWW. Bigger Shots from Bigger guys, if they land to the body, can hurt you, put you down, take you out. So cover up and Stay away.Posted September 4, 2013 3:40 am
anyways nice to meet you William hope to debate in future ,).Posted September 4, 2013 3:34 am
I agree his fights are much easier when he moves, which he will have to vs Canelo, as you say he tended to get hit more earlier in his career and not so much in the last few years,learning all the time, im wondering what Canelo will bring different to throw him off? what a night we have to come.Posted September 4, 2013 3:28 am
Do you think Canelo has a chance? I think if he connects flush he might do some damage but that’s easier said than done. I think Floyd will be too fast for him.Posted September 4, 2013 3:22 am
He still needs to listen to his Daddy and fight behind his Jab more instead of the lead-left hook and straight-right. When he Jabs, the fights are easier. When he moves, the fights are easier.Posted September 4, 2013 3:18 am
His fight with Chico is one of the most brilliant displays of Artistry in boxing history. And I really can’t stand the word “Art” being used in such a format but for that day, that fight, that was truly a Masterpiece.
One of the fights I actually really like was the Corley fight. First time Floyd was seriously hurt. How did he react? He remained calm, collected his thoughts, started to smile at Corley, and then went on the attack to stop Corley’s attack. He took some more clean shots but he kept going at Corley. And after that round, clearly dominated with brilliance.
It was that fight and not the Mosley fight that showed me this Man has that fight in him. The Mosley fight only showed me that it wasn’t gone since that can be a concern with fighters that become Rich and Famous and get OLDER.Posted September 4, 2013 3:16 am
Yes the way he can open up the space for the body shots is a sight to behold,all in one nano second, the speed of his lead right straight too is just supernatural that 99% of people dont see it coming,99% of fighters cannot do this, looking at it the opponent looks so confused at times like how the hell did he manage to hit me there? lolPosted September 4, 2013 3:15 am
Roger, during the time that Williams was going hot, thought Paul would have been Floyd’s toughest test. He called him some sort of Freak for the WW division.
Tall, Broad Shoulders, Long Arms, High Punch-out-Put, Decent Power, Good Chin, and just wouldn’t let up.
I think Floyd was concerned about him and really the only fighter I think concerned him other than possibly Pacquiao. After all, why ask for additional testing all of a sudden? I think he could have beaten him but he was clearly concerned about something. And maybe for good reason.
Cotto, Margarito, and whoever else people think he “ducked” from 147 and below…I don’t see Floyd losing to any of them.
Prime Shane and Oscar however would have been a great fight.Posted September 4, 2013 3:12 am
I like to think of it as to look at the fighters he HAS fought and won against, its a mighty impressive roster, as previous poster says when he took out Corrales that was very impressive, that guy was unbeaten and destroying everyone in his path,a real feared fighter and Money TKO’s his ass, that right there convinced me that Money was no joke.Posted September 4, 2013 3:11 am
shoot me down but I think Paul Williams although not BRILLIANT would have troubled him, his height and reach and his work-rate would have made it a real interesting fight and a challenge for Money, we havnt really seen him vs a tall guyPosted September 4, 2013 3:04 am
William I think Judah genuinely thought he could out-box him, which he was for the first couple of rounds, which was great because when do you ever see Money being out-boxed? rarely, he just couldn’t out-think him,Money is imo the best fighter at adjusting during a fight,Money adjusted and ended up with the win, but yes that’s a good point about fighting a prime Mosley or Oscar or Paul Williams he always takes some stick for that,that’s up for debate maybe he didn’t feel ready at that time?Posted September 4, 2013 3:01 am
How many guys would you say Floyd has fought that are Athletic, Fast, Agile, Skilled, and Powerful?
Any of them the complete package?
How about some of those attributes on a fighter that was prime?
Any?Posted September 4, 2013 2:58 am
And Judah knocked him down and never got it scored, rnd 2 I think, definite knock down it should have been a 10-8 round,likely the only fighter to EVER knock him down.Posted September 4, 2013 2:56 am
True, Judah landed more and took more rounds off of Floyd.
Don’t you think that may have also been caused by Judah and Floyd’s sparring sessions together where Judah became more comfortable with Floyd’s style and timing?
I remember Roy saying he wasn’t for fighting people he sparred with.
I still wonder what a PRIME Shane and Oscar would do with Floyd. But not that version of Floyd, the younger version of Floyd even before the Hatton fight.Posted September 4, 2013 2:55 am
I think Mosley only landed that one decent clean punch and then couldn’t follow it up, that’s not consistent, go watch the first few rounds of the Judah fight and you will see Floyd getting hit more than you ever have in one fight,the facts/fight speaks for itself really.Posted September 4, 2013 2:50 am
you gotta love love this William guy, appears from nowhere and tries to tell the LONG TIME posters how things are, we know what were on about son you cant really inform us of anything we don’t already know, constructive arguments are good but don’t try and tell knowledgeable guys how things are, you sound slightly patronising.Posted September 4, 2013 2:44 am
William Mos;ey likely hurt him the most but that’s not what I was saying, the fighter to land the most consistent clean shots was Judah,a southpaw, go watch the fight.Posted September 4, 2013 2:39 am
Floyd has the ability to make every fight a BORING one. Canelo will be happy just to dance around with Floyd. Another worthless fight and multi million earnings to Floyd the boxer!Posted September 4, 2013 2:29 am
Caldwell says.., “The build up for this fight is typical of most recent Mayweather fights.”
It’s really not… This fight is “The One” … The fight everyone has been waiting for. A young, fast, strong, tough, skilled, intellegent, undefeated boxer at the top of the 154-pound division.
There can’t be any excuses if Floyd beats a fighter of this caliber. Floyd has already beaten ATG boxers like De La Hoya, Mosley, Cotto, Marquez, and Judah.
But they all had problems. Either they were old, beaten up, knocked out before … or too small as in the case of JMM.
Terry Norris suffered a brutal KO loss before he dominated Sugar Ray Leonard.. So it’s not as if a boxer with problems can’t beat an ATG.. But Canelo doesn’t have any major soft spots anyone can point to.
If Floyd wins this fight he should finally get tons of respect from his detractors. And, as usual, a lot of haters expect Canelo to knock Floyd TFO.
If he beats Canelo he’s got Matthysse — so it doesn’t get that much easier.Posted September 4, 2013 1:34 am
I can’t remember when the first time I heard about it but it wasn’t in an article. It was just casual talk amongst Oscar and others in boxing but it was years before he fought Floyd.
But anyway, here is that one article at least which was before he fought Floyd
Injury Could Hamper De La Hoya’s Final Plan
LAS VEGAS — Oscar De La Hoya has targeted Sept. 16 as the date for a possible farewell fight, but medical problems could make it difficult for him to return to the ring that soon.
De La Hoya, already suffering from an injury to his left shoulder, tore a muscle in his left forearm Saturday night in a victory over Ricardo Mayorga at the MGM Grand Garden Arena
De La Hoya is optimistic that he will be sufficiently healed to go ahead with his planned schedule.
“I’ll be fine,” he said.
The shoulder problem, a slight tear of the rotator cuff according to De La Hoya, is an old injury that flared up in recent weeks.
“It got to the point where after so many rounds of sparring I would feel a burning back there,” he said.
But De La Hoya wouldn’t cancel Saturday night’s fight and, indeed, neither injury was evident in his performance. His left hook was never better and he was as aggressive as ever. In the sixth round, before the fight was stopped at the 1-minute, 25-second mark, De La Hoya connected on 29 punches against the dazed and helpless Mayorga.
“I will not have surgery on my rotator cuff,” De La Hoya said. “I will try to let it heal on its own along with medication.”
Assuming that treatment proves successful, what next?
De La Hoya had said his rationale for coming back was to erase the image of him on the canvas at the end of his losing effort against Bernard Hopkins 20 months ago. That De La Hoya did, with one of his more spirited, most impressive efforts.
So does he really need another fight? Does he want to risk the possibility of again going out a loser?
While Mayorga unquestionably has power, he is not an accomplished boxer. He was picked because of his defense-be-darned approach, making him an ideal target for De La Hoya, assuming De La Hoya had not lost his touch, which he obviously hasn’t.
If De La Hoya wants to finish up, as he says he does, with a momentous victory against a quality opponent, it would mean big money, but also a great risk.
Three opponents are under consideration: Floyd Mayweather Jr., Winky Wright and Ricky Hatton. Felix Trinidad appears to be off the table because of the weight disparity.
In Mayweather, there is a bigger problem: His father, Floyd Sr., is De La Hoya’s trainer. Father and son have been feuding on and off for years, but Floyd Sr. said the connection is still there.Posted September 4, 2013 1:30 am
Google; Oscar De La Hoya Shoulder injury. Articles pop up.
Injury Could Hamper De La Hoya’s Final Plan
Oscar De La Hoya
Oscar’s left shoulder could be a problem against Manny
It pops up in the link section when you google what I told you. It’s under google books.Posted September 4, 2013 1:25 am
Canelo can’t even get off when he has a fighter moving in front of him, he’s like a deer in the headlights AKA…Pavlik when he faught hopkins. Whenever Floyd stops moving he will just cover up or tie up or roll with punches, when floyd moves canelo will be hitting air or just won’t get off. This fight is easy for floyd if box and moves. Floyd keeps this in the center of the ring canelo is going to get frustrated and tired. I wouldn’t be surprised see mayweather take out canelo like he nailed hatton in the late rounds. Canelo youth are all thats going keep him from getting KO’d because at the end of the fight he will have shades on cause his eyes will almost be swelled shut. This fight isn’t going to be close. When floyd takes a round off here or there are the rounds Canelo will be winning. Canelo going to have to have a golden horseshoe up his ars to win this one. Canelo is young and hungry but he isn’t a fool, when he starts getting countered often and feels mayweather sting he will go into a shell and just try to see the final bell to save face. Canelo confidence will go away after the first few rounds when he realizes he’s over his head. I felt sorry for pavlik when hopkins was spanking him, canelo going to get spanked in this one, mayweather will punish him.Posted September 4, 2013 12:51 am
Canelo will need 2 improve 30% on what I saw against old man Mosley and trout….every 1 is tuned in 4 this 1..Posted September 4, 2013 12:40 am
………….THE WORLD WILL BE SURPRISE ON SEPT/14/03…………….Posted September 3, 2013 11:57 pm
Tomato can, I do think that all the brouhaha surrounding Canelo’s chances have truly motivated Floyd in a unique way & Jr. is coming for Canelo’s scalp with a vengeance…that’s what I think but like you said, we’ll have to wait & see.Posted September 3, 2013 11:49 pm
Don’t see Money losing, but to think Money would stop him makes no sense to me. Who really believes this? To stop him Money would have to take risks he has not been willing to take, doesn’t make any sense.Posted September 3, 2013 11:46 pm
Face off was lame. Didn’t even ask about the drug test. TerriblePosted September 3, 2013 11:14 pm
Mayweather matches that never happened during his prime, and theirs, on his way up, for a reason! And I’ll let the FMJ hard core fans fill in the blanks: ____ _____ _____ _____ _____Posted September 3, 2013 11:10 pm
Candelo says, “Where’s my Corona TO SUCK ON” ? “I have to go home and watch my ! DRAG QUEEN PER HOUR ON UNIVISION & TELEMUNDO LIKE MOST LATINA MEN”!!!! P.s. I”ll wear ny pantyholes after the fight like Dela Hoya ! Sad but True.Posted September 3, 2013 11:08 pm
Largo, you could be right on the money! We’ll soon see.Posted September 3, 2013 11:04 pm
Sorry haters, u can pray and wish all u want but u wont be watching Money losing, september 18th will be a very hard day for u.Posted September 3, 2013 11:03 pm
I can find no articles. Sorry but like I’ve said he has never talked about itPosted September 3, 2013 11:03 pm
Mr. Easy Win
Easy win for FloydPosted September 3, 2013 11:02 pm
Canelo wins! And the Canelo vs Mayweather “rematch” breaks all boxing records and makes the two boxers the most paid for quite a long time to come!!Posted September 3, 2013 11:01 pm
What articles are those I need to read then. I’ve been trying to find it but cantPosted September 3, 2013 10:59 pm
Because Canelo is a real threat to Floyd-just like Corrales was-it’s exactly the reason I think Jr. is so motivated for this fight. I haven’t seen Floyd this motivated since Corrales, where he was facing a guy with a lot of power, a true powerhouse…I think Floyd is coming to this fight with the same intensity he did against Corrales & that might get him KO because Canelo is huge & has some pop but at the same time, it means Canelo is facing the best fighter in the world coming for him with genuine bad intentions; my own guess is Floyd will be cautious for the first few rounds, where I see Canelo having some good moments, & then he’ll start ripping hard shots to Canelos mid-section & he’ll get him in trouble in the championship rounds…Jr. will look like the best fighter on the planet, once again, by stopping the cinnamon kid by TKO…After that, the excuses will flood these boxing sites…Posted September 3, 2013 10:26 pm
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If by now you dont realize that all these turd$ are the same person… Either way on Sept 14, WELCOME TO THE 17th ANNUAL MAYWEATHER TRACK MEET!Posted September 3, 2013 9:30 pm
Canelo has a great chance to win. Mayweather will do everything he can to keep that from happening though. Based on age factors, size difference, and the fact that Canelo isn’t a bad fighter at all I’m on the fence in this one, and won’t make a defenate prediction until the weigh in.. This will be something like the 21st champion Mayweather will be facing, so no matter what anyone here says, win or lose Mayweathers legacy is solid. As for Canelo he may have a hard time once he eclipses the 154 pound division…Posted September 3, 2013 9:16 pm
bottomline, while i expect buzzards to be circling the skies over Macau, China for the Rios v. Pacquiao* bout, i’m expecting nothing more ominous than spotlights to be circling the skies over Las Vegas on September 14.Posted September 3, 2013 9:00 pm
Canelo is a real threat to the extent that he is the youngest, biggest, and strongest fighter Floyd has ever faced. however,Canelo is at a severe experience disadvantage and Mayweather is one of those rare fighters whose got the talent and skills to match his vast experience with a variety of fighters and styles. accordingly, despite the very real threat that Canelo poses to Mayweather, Floyd must still be favored to prevail over 12 rounds, but there is one thing that Floyd hasn’t experienced and that’s losing. if Canelo can land the punch, or combination of punches, or combination of punches over several rounds that will finally trigger this process for Mayweather(?) . . . i still see Floyd fighting his way back from the cliff’s edge to regain control of the fight. i simply have an immense amount of respect for the complete fighting package that Mayweather represents in a boxing ring and the fierce competitiveness that simply won’t allow him to lose.Posted September 3, 2013 8:57 pm
Killa – the comparison is not that inconceivable. Agree Canelo is a more skilled boxer then Chavez Jr, conversely Mayweather has a better defence then Martinez. Unlike Titopia however I dont believe Floyd will KO Canelo just as I did not expect Martinez to KO Chavez Jr.Posted September 3, 2013 8:18 pm
-Titopia comparing Canelo with Chavez Jr. You must be on drugs. Canelo has mad skills just watch his fights. This guy is the real deal. Experienced is a factor but compared speed, power, age, experience, and who the Mafia wants next in their pockets and you will see that Canelo is the future.Posted September 3, 2013 7:59 pm
That’s why someone with no stamina issues is a bigger threat to Floyd just like it was for Hopkins.
That’s why Calzaghe troubled him. Volume and Pace was taken away from Hopkins whose stamina was on the decline past his mid-30’s.
Taylor didn’t have the best stamina in the World but because Hopkins paced himself in the early to mid rounds and then came on strong for the later part, he was to far behind and it caught him. Maybe that can happen to Floyd but I doubt it. The closest he came to that was with Judah who was piling up the early rounds before he himself gassed out which was due to Floyd’s body attack and just Zab’s up and down stamina issues at that point.Posted September 3, 2013 7:42 pm
Mosley hit him with the cleanest shot and he was in the orthodox stance. He set it up with a jab to the body, and then the right hand. And then he rocked Floyd twice more.Posted September 3, 2013 7:38 pm
“Floyd’s game plan is same as always. slow the action down, win by points early then dance away and grab. there will be lots of booos but Floyd don’t care” – Cosign The Deal’s take on this. The talk about Canelo’s youth, size and power will vaporize by round 4. Floyd’s defense is in ways like Bhop, it’s about timing and angles and tying up the opponent. He used to run more than Bhop but I think he does that less because his legs are going. Doesn’t matter – Floyd knows how to stink the joint out to his benefit without running.Posted September 3, 2013 7:36 pm
Chance? Like winning the lottery. Floyd too good for the kid. Floyd vs Broner! Lets make this fight happen, old lion vs young lion.Posted September 3, 2013 7:30 pm
Mike_LV , watch thatPosted September 3, 2013 7:18 pm
Not really and primarily because at this particular time Alvarez just doesn’t have enough experience behind him – I have NO idea why the fight is being hyped as much as it it – Mayweather by UD!!Posted September 3, 2013 6:55 pm
The Deal got the beat!Posted September 3, 2013 6:49 pm
The Deal dont you think slowing the action down would suit Canelo? I think fighting at a high pace and making him work will be Floyds tactic,a gassed Canelo by rnd 8.Posted September 3, 2013 6:49 pm
I do think Canelo will bring something that Money wasn’t expecting, like the head movement vs Trout. Money as usual will have to adjust but that’s what makes him a great fighter, Trout couldn’t Money can.Posted September 3, 2013 6:47 pm
Floyd’s game plan is same as always. slow the action down, win by points early then dance away and grab. there will be lots of booos but Floyd don’t care, he won’t stray away from the game plan that works for him. But Oscar and Canelo have put something together for Floyd, he will realize it early in the bout and will be totally off his game. he will quit! Shoulder injury, hand is hurting, some bs like that.Posted September 3, 2013 6:45 pm
lman – That’s how I see it going down, except Floyd will stop Canelo. I remember people saying, “Chavez is big and strong and Martinez is old”, what happened? Yeah, Chavez sure proved strong as he rallied in the 12th to knock Martinez down after getting SCHOOLED for 11.5 rounds, unfortunately for Canelo, he facing a man who KNOWN for not getting hit, as much as I love Martinez, he GETS hit, Floyd…does NOT!Posted September 3, 2013 6:42 pm
Bozo – It takes more than physical strength (and youth) to beat Floyd.Posted September 3, 2013 6:39 pm
a bit off topic but some of the cleanest best shots Floyds ever been hit with was from Zab Judah, Maybe Canelo will go southpaw on him at times?Posted September 3, 2013 6:36 pm
Could end up like Martinez vs Chavez Jr….Canelo might only have one chance to end this fight so he better do what Mosely and Chavez Jr couldnt. Either way boring fight or not I want to see a definitive winner not a contraversial one.Posted September 3, 2013 6:34 pm
I find it funny that he’s never mentioned it till now. Never ever heard him talk about it and never seen him struggle in any fight with his jab until he fought Floyd.Posted September 3, 2013 6:20 pm
Yes, a real threat. He is so big and Young. A better version of Ricky Hatton with more physical strenght.Posted September 3, 2013 6:19 pm
FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAYWEATHER WILL WIN EASY AND MAYBE BY KO. WHAT FIGHT DO THE FAN’S REALLY WANT TO SEE ? I SAY MAYWEATHER VS PACMAN . IF YOU LOVE BOXING AND SAY YOUR THE BEST THEN FIGHT ALL COMERS AND GIVE THE FAN’S WHAT THEY WANT . I WILL ALWAYS SAY NO TO THE HALL OF FAME FOR MAYWEATHER IN TILL HE FIGHTS PACMAN .Posted September 3, 2013 6:14 pm
Floyd cherry picked Conelo based on his last performance against Trout which was all a ploy to get Money in the ring. Hope Floyd doesn’t make excuses and cancel this right.Posted September 3, 2013 6:06 pm
So who does Floyd fight after this that wouldn’t be considered a “Cherry Picked” fight?
Asking the Cherry Picker accusers.Posted September 3, 2013 5:59 pm
Timing is more important than Speed according to the Mayweathers. Does Canelo have this? I don’t know. I might have to rewatch the Trout fight.Posted September 3, 2013 5:58 pm
After evaluating this fight between Canelo and Mayweather, and looking at both of them rationally rather than emotionally. I have to give the edge to Mayweather. I watched Canelo’s last 3 fights and have seen some flaws. First off, he punches fast, but he’s not nearly fast enough to try his counter punches that he normally uses. Second, he counts on that wide left hook way too much. Yes, he hits hard, but Mayweather will see it coming for miles away. Canelo punches well when his opponent stands there or against the ropes. He does well, but against a mover with speed, he’s going to have problems. Canelo also picks/parry’s the jab with his right hand, which will allow Floyd’s left hook to land often once he feints the jab. Canelo actually has some similarities to Floyd’s style, but he does things slower and with more power. The Jab he uses is solid, but he cannot throw it at the same speed or he’s going to get countered. Canelo has a tendency to load up on wide strong punches, but that will have him missing Floyd all day. He is going to need speed. Canelo needs to use a jab constantly and consistently if he is to have any chance to win. Watching both Floyd and Canelo side by side during their fights, Floyd is on a different level when it comes to speed, elusiveness, athleticism, defense and experience. I want to see Canelo win this fight, and he can, but he’s going to have to make many adjustments. Floyd shouldbe the favorite, no doubt, but when an older champion fights a young hungry lion, strange things can happen. Canelo will have to catch Floyd in one of those exchanges to have a real chance. I hopethis doesn’t turn into a sleeper as Floyd runs, hits and hugs all night, but i could be. I’m hoping Canelo can put it all together for one night, but it’s going to be tough.Posted September 3, 2013 5:52 pm
Oscar De La Hoya Shoulder injury
and see what comes up. I just did it right now. I will have to reread the articles. It’s been a while.Posted September 3, 2013 5:50 pm
The inflammation was the worst part of it. More so then the pain. Wants he uses it to much, like Jabbing, it starts to swell and he needs to rest it.
Hooks he can do throughout the 12 rounds because you aren’t throwing them constantly. And, it depends on which part of the shoulder is torn and becomes inflamed. There are different parts that allow for different movements.Posted September 3, 2013 5:48 pm
You can go back years with Oscar’s shoulder injury. He has talked about it before Floyd’s fights. He talked about how he wasn’t going to get surgery on it because he could deal with the pain and inflammation and make adjustments. Surgery for him would mean a possible end of his career because you never know what surgery will do. It could be a good thing or a bad thing but either way, you are never the same and you don’t know what to expect.
He has had it for a long time. If he had gotten the surgery when the Doctor said he could, he would have lost millions of dollars. It wasn’t worth it to Oscar.
Forrest had the same issue.Posted September 3, 2013 5:46 pm
Titopa, a bit wishful thinking but no, it could happen :)Posted September 3, 2013 5:39 pm
Haimat – That HAS to be a joke? Right! Cause it sure made me laughPosted September 3, 2013 5:36 pm
Thanks PEEJ. Good to know. I would like to know which agency and how many tests they’ve done. That’s the kind of info these beat reporters should be trying to uncover. Too many stories, not enough info. At this year’s Tour de France the AP reported eventual winner Froome had been tested 20 out of the first 21 days with all results negative. That’s the kind of transparency we need.Posted September 3, 2013 5:36 pm
I could see Floyd loosing a UD in this fight. He still has a few fights on his Showtime contract. He tries to rebound against Matthysse and gets knocked out cold in the early rounds. Not an extremely unlikely scenario…
They are using the same testing agency Floyd had always used. I read about it sometime earlier. Just can’t remember wherePosted September 3, 2013 5:27 pm
Floyd will be exposed, Canelo has his number with the help from Oscar. Best for Floyd to hang it up after this bout.Posted September 3, 2013 5:13 pm
One question I have about Floyd vs Canelo that I don’t recall being discussed: Are these dudes doing random out of comp PED testing? If so which testing organization and how many tests have been implemented thus far?Posted September 3, 2013 5:07 pm
PEEJ – Floyd is banking on Canelo coming in really heavy, the heavier the better for Floyd. That’ll only add to Canelo’s stamina issues, he’ll be slower and easier to hit, Floyd’s gonna pick him apart from a distance and halt him within 11, it won’t be a knockout, but I can see the ref stopping the fight…too much too soon for this kid. Floyd is FOR REAL and Canelo’s built his “resume” on guys who don’t mind getting hit.Posted September 3, 2013 5:06 pm
Boxing is a dangerous game where any boxer can knock out his opponent at any given moment. That said, Mayweather will destroy Canelo. Yes, Canelo has stamina problems and that will be one of his downfalls.Posted September 3, 2013 5:05 pm
That fight was at 154, had nothing to do for WW and how Floyd would look against past greats, which by the way we would never now how those fights would turn out. It is only good foe debating purposes. Floyd had to concede everything to Oscar, specifically gloves that where ment for heavyweights. Floyd looked decent in that fight also. He clearly beat Oscar and he made Oscar stop jabbing by making adjustments. Oscar was still throwing hooks, just not landing them. Sorry but his so called shoulder injury was not talked about. And if he kept fighting with it if it was injured for a long time then it shouldn’t even be brought up as an excuse.Posted September 3, 2013 5:01 pm
Floyd will get tired of running and will either get KTFO or quit, Canelo will be on him like white on rice. Don’t see this going pass the 7th round.Posted September 3, 2013 4:58 pm
Canelo isn’t green or to young. Ali was what, 22, when he fought Sonny Liston. I think Canelo is good to go. The only difference between the fight now and a fight a few years from now is that Floyd will be a lot older. 39, closing on 40. Yeah, then we can say Canelo is ready I guess. that’s what people want anyway. For Floyd to get Old and then Yell out, “I Told you he was overrated, EXPOSED.”Posted September 3, 2013 4:57 pm
It’s been talked about already before with regards to Oscar’s injury to his shoulder: Oscar has had a shoulder injury for a long time just like Vernon Forrest did. Difference is, while both refused surgery which was an option, Forrest ended up having to because it finally ripped apart and he had no choice. Partial tears and tissue damage you can get away with with rest and natural healing but the damage is done.
It’s why he stopped Jabbing after certain rounds.
Floyd wasn’t impressive at all in that fight. He should have been embarrassed. His own Daddy was shaking his head with that performance.
I’m not saying Floyd was at his peak anymore either, he wasn’t, but he should have been embarrassed with that performance because a performance like that throws out any argument he has of beating legends at WW like SRR, SRL, and Tommy Hearns and others.
That was a Past Prime Oscar. Oscar and Shane were fighting at their peaks. Now that was two fighters at that time that would make you question how Floyd would do against them. Of course, Floyd was even better back then himself, but it would have been great to see all of them at their peaks.Posted September 3, 2013 4:55 pm
Canelo knocked him down so what, that does not mean you won, Nonito knocked Rig down and still lost as should have been the same had this fight not been in TexasPosted September 3, 2013 4:51 pm
Nope not at all. With Canelos stamina issue Floyd could and does have a good chance and stopping Canelo. But more along the lines of the ref stepping in or the corner throwing the towel in. Nobody is saying he is gonna knock him out. And Cotto had Canelo wobbled for a sec.Posted September 3, 2013 4:48 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
“If feather fisted trout can put him on Noodle legs helpless against the ropes then Mayweather should be able to KO him with ease..”
LOL….Trout NEVER hurt, wobbled or rocked Canelo. GTFOH! He never even hit him with one really good, clean hard shot. Trout is the one who got floored and wobbled two other times, in case you were too stoned to pay attention that night.
The guys saying that FMJ is going to stop Canelo are living in dream land.Posted September 3, 2013 4:40 pm
How can anyone say this due is the best FM has fought, what are you serious. Canelo is a BUM.Posted September 3, 2013 4:38 pm
Just read an article where Oscar said he had a torn rotator cuff in his fight with Floyd. lol. That man has so many excuses. I am still waiting for him to challenge his loss against Mosley. Where are the lawyers, where is the attempts to clean up boxing?Posted September 3, 2013 4:36 pm
Who has he cherry pick im still trying to figure that out. Ask Robert who deserved a shot more than him, ask cotto,shane,oscar etc. for the last time ask BOB why ceratin fights didnt happen, waaaay before the Pac fight.Posted September 3, 2013 4:36 pm
Mayweather by late round stoppage.Will the next guy who Oscar hypes as the one to halt Floyd please stand up….Canelo’s strangley oversized head will balloon even bigger and will be likely very swollen and cut to ribbons by round 9….Posted September 3, 2013 4:35 pm
Win , lose, or draw, I doubt that this will be considered cherry picking.Posted September 3, 2013 4:24 pm
i’m thinking floyd beats him and keeps his crown with canelo fans feigning for a rematch…got that feeling!Posted September 3, 2013 4:16 pm
If Floyd wins, this will be considered another cherry picked fight and or Canelo was too green even though he has 40 something fights. If he loses people will say he was exposed even though he has had 44 fights and they will say he is not HOF fighter even though he started his career at 130. Floyd is always in a no win situation with haters.Posted September 3, 2013 4:14 pm
Titopa`i believe floyd wins this fight but not by alot not dominating at all,i think that after floyd beats canelo everybody else after him is going to be a cake walk i dont see anybody else getting close except for rigondeaux haa!!!Posted September 3, 2013 4:10 pm
There is NO “blue-print” to beat Canelo, BUT, he does have a draw, something to factor in. Sure he has gotten better, but so has Floyd, the Castillo fight was 10 years ago and Floyd proved in their 2nd fight who the better man was/is….so, if you think that is a “blue-print” then you’re sadly mistaken, Floyd is a TOTALLY different fighter, the Floyd of today would SCHOOL the Floyd that fought Castillo, same with the “blue-print” that was drafted in the De La Hoya fight, De La Hoya STILL lost AND Floyd has gotten better, the Floyd of today would beat the Floyd of then. I just can’t see Canelo beating Floyd, like most feel/believe, Canelo’s BEST chance is landing a big shot…otherwise, look for him to completely out boxed, I see Floyd busting him up and halting him within 11. Too much too soon for the kid. He needs more time to grow and gain experience.Posted September 3, 2013 3:52 pm
If he comes in weighing his usual 175+lbs maybe but even then I don’t think so. If feather fisted trout can put him on Noodle legs helpless against the ropes then Mayweather should be able to KO him with ease..Posted September 3, 2013 3:32 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Canelo a real serious threat to Floyd. FMJ can’t stop him, so there’s no way that he can win by KO/TKO.
But Canelo can stop FMJ if he catches him with a couple of good, clean shots. And that’s exactly what Canelo will have to do to get the win because there’s no way they’ll give Canelo the decision in FMJ’s home country and home town.
My prediction is that Canelo will win the fight, but will get ROBBED on the cards. Rea talk.Posted September 3, 2013 3:32 pm
Another boring fight say the naysayers. Floyd says he gets $32mil and you’re the one with the one with boring life.Posted September 3, 2013 3:26 pm
Mayweather can’t knockout canelo and he knows Canelo has the strength to hurt him. Expect mayweather to be ultra defensive and win another boring fight.Posted September 3, 2013 3:24 pm
I agree with Peej, he’s got no chance of out-boxing Floyd but his timing should make him able to land a power shot or two,then anything could happen.Posted September 3, 2013 3:23 pm
Hell yes he is to put it quite simply. a big time threatPosted September 3, 2013 3:20 pm
Marquez is twice the boxer Canelo is and he couldn’t touch Floyd ..I think that answers your question !Thank God for Garcia Matyhsse is on the undercard !Posted September 3, 2013 3:12 pm
Is the fight still on? I haven’t seen anything written about it lately.Posted September 3, 2013 2:53 pm
“Is Canelo a Real Threat to Floyd?” Hey, I guess we will find that out after the fight. Next…Posted September 3, 2013 2:51 pm
Floyd doesn’t think so because he to the fight ! Oh wait can he still pick his fights with his new showtime contract !!!!!!! . Well if they’re going to pay the money they want the ppv fights to be competitive . Not only is canelo a threat he has a real chance to beat the hand pick champ .Posted September 3, 2013 2:44 pm
Yes he is !! Im a fan of Mayweather , but to be honest I really wanna see Canelo do this ! Imagne the rematch?! WOW ! Like Canelo has been saying all this time , ” My Time Is Now “Posted September 3, 2013 2:40 pm
Of course he is. But in my opinion his only chance is a punchers chance. I don’t think he can win a decicison.Posted September 3, 2013 2:31 pm