Martinez was badly beaten by Murray. One of the worst decisions I’ve seen in 50 years of following boxing.Posted August 29, 2013 11:40 pm
This is a nonsense fight, I’d be surprised if Martinez sees the fifth round. There seems to be an awful lot of doubters where Golovkin is concerned, he’s just about the best I’ve seen, ever. Very skillful and contrary to popular belief he doesn’t get hit often. forget the Rosado fight, Golovkin was in bed with the flu for the three days prior to this fight, he certainly wasn’t at his best. Martinez would take an awful beating, if the fight takes place I hope Sergio makes a lot of money, because I doubt he will be a star attraction after it. Easy night for Gennady.Posted August 8, 2013 1:39 pm
Likewise Too Smooth… Take care.Posted July 6, 2013 9:55 pm
@Tark~ I had a good time debating whether Canelo will peak earlier or later in his career. It’s nice to have an intelligent and fact based conversation with a fellow boxing fan without being called an idiot or fanboy just because you have a different opinion than someone else. As far as Martinez, 3G are concerned, I think Martinez is a bit past it to take on his toughest challenge in the twilight of his career. Him being a reflex fighter who has poor defensive technique, fighting a sharp, concussive puncher, who cuts the ring off extremely well, would be a mistake. I mention his age and reflexes because the reflexes are pretty much the first thing that goes when you start slipping. I just don’t think he’ll be able to react fast enough when 3G throws that sledgehammer jab.Posted July 5, 2013 6:00 pm
Sergio is done, well cooked, burned and will be DEAD MEAT if he faces GGG.Posted July 5, 2013 3:18 pm
This is not a fight you will see Julio Cesar Chavez Jr in… His people match him extremely carefully, and he’s a very bad boxer… He has no jab, and no straight right… He’s a tall infighting brawler — like Tyson Fury turned into when he discovered he couldn’t outbox USS Cunningham.
Chavez is a punching bag.. He’s a great absorber like Mariuze Wach, the heavyweight who took a million Wladimir Klitschko shots to head.. The problem with a great absorbers is … they absorb all night and lose the decision 12-0.
I call Julio Absorbing Junior… With GGG he might not be absorbing after the 10th round or so … He might be dead.Posted July 5, 2013 2:51 pm
MARVILLA is more hittable now than at any other point in his career, being caught by flush punches on the regular…
He is slowly losing his advantages of speed of movement and his ability to slip or get out of the way of shots…. vs GGG that could prove career suicide unless he elects to box sensibly behind a hugh guard and draw GGG into a chess match of counter-punching….
Maravilla can punch hard and if he boxes sensibly over the first half – employing sound movement and picks when he attcks, he could lure GGG into mistakes….
I personally think MARAVILLA should swerve GGG, unless he knows he is at 100% health….
The fight I would like to see is big bot , CHAVEZ JNR shoot it out with GGG.
I am sure we will be guaranteed a KO on either side and it will be one helluva fight, however long it lasts!Posted July 5, 2013 1:44 pm
Maybe when Sergio had his operation, they gave him too much pain medication.Posted July 5, 2013 12:49 pm
GGG is on top of his game right now, this guy will take Martinez into the deep, tall order for Sergio.Posted July 5, 2013 11:14 am
MY THOUGHTS ARE THAT MARAVILLA due to injuries and the ageing process is no-longer the fighter he was, say 18 months ago!
His last 2 or 3 bouts are clear evidence of this….
Maravilla struggled with the likes of BARKER (sound boxer, but nothing special), CHAVEZ JNR (big, flat-pitch bully) and lastly MARTIN MURRAY, (defensively sound, but boring as hell to watch)
I don’t know if he has been carrying his knee injuries for this period, but clearly he seemed incapacitated in the MURRAY bout…
PERSONALLY, I feel thaty Maravilla is looking to cash out on one final payday vs GGG, win or lose.
In his mind , i’m sure he feels he can beat GGG….
The one thing that truly impressed me about GGG was he performed effortlessly vs MACKLIN almost like a MAGICIAN…. It seemed ike he just moved and Macklin was either backing up or on the canvas and his punches never travelled more than 6 inches, such was the nature of his deceptive movement.
I’m still unsure as I would like t osee him vs a boxer— dare I say someone like MURRAY who defends first rather than the offensively minded MACKLIN…..Posted July 5, 2013 7:43 am
Golo would end Martinez’s modeling career in brutal fashion. Keep your advisor making the calls Sergio. Fight a stationary fighter next, they’re the ones you can beat easy. Geale would make you suffer for 12, Golo is going to save you some suffering by making it short easy work.
Martinez will fight old half shot CottoPosted July 5, 2013 7:18 am
Sergio would definitely run for 12 rounds. Even though he put on a pot-shotting clinic against Chavez Jr. he was back-pedaling for much of the fight. Same thing in the Murray fight. Golovkin is more powerful than both Chavez Jr. and Murray. Once Martinez tastes his power, he’ll make sure to keep even more space between him and Golovkin. For 12 rounds.Posted July 5, 2013 3:18 am
When he says twelve rounds is he referring to twelve rounds of drinks?Posted July 5, 2013 12:14 am
It’s official. Sergio has flipped. Too many head shots.Posted July 5, 2013 12:06 am
Let’s get real. GGG is a hell of a fighter, but then so was a prime Sergio Martinez.Posted July 4, 2013 11:44 pm
TARK has told us.. blah, blah, blah,Posted July 4, 2013 10:13 pm
Fears…. ” 3-4 years ago Maravilla would have outclassed and beaten GGG”
With what? GGG would have smashed Martinez on the best day he ever sawPosted July 4, 2013 9:18 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
murderman: Thanks, bro! I really like reading your accurate posts as well. Have a nice and relaxing 4th of July!Posted July 4, 2013 8:25 pm
Supreme Court = wrong. Martinez’s injuries were well documented after the Chavez fight.Posted July 4, 2013 6:27 pm
Hand damage, knee damage – but brain damage was news to me. Hopefully Sergio will stay away from Golovkin and it won’t get any worse.Posted July 4, 2013 5:34 pm
THE REAL AMERICAN OAK
I like Sergio but I doubt he’d toy with GGG. He’d hit the canvas though.Posted July 4, 2013 5:20 pm
Sergio came THIS CLOSE to getting KTFO by Chavez Jr., so going on that its hard to see how he has any chance with GGG. Sergio is a likeable dude but he is a worn out fighter.Posted July 4, 2013 3:52 pm
I basically agree with elmatador, 3-4 years ago Maravilla would have outclassed and beaten GGG, but Father Time is walking him down as he does every fighter (with the exception of B-Hop). I think GGG’s pressure and work rate will just be too much for this older version of Maravilla. His age is also the very reason that his body breaks down before, during and after fights. I don’t think he’s fought with a clean bill of health since he KO’D Dzinzuirick.Posted July 4, 2013 1:30 pm
I agree with Magomed. What sort of excuse not to fight/defend his title is just having knee surgery?! C’mon Sergio, stand up, hobble around the ring on one decent leg and fight! What a wimp!Posted July 4, 2013 12:08 pm
A Martinez, of few years ago, would have made this match-up one hell of a fight! But today’s Martinez, plagued with injuries, looks to be a shell of his former self. Unless the time off totally rejuvenates him, he’ll easily get blown out and stopped by GGG in less than 6 rounds.Posted July 4, 2013 11:57 am
This will be a sick fight for sure. Sergio’s still got it but he is vulnerable. GGG taking on an elite will be a sight to behold.
Bring it on 2014!Posted July 4, 2013 10:29 am
if “maravilla” cannot defend the middleweight title in a timely fashion against the #1 contender he should vacate very sad excuse for a championPosted July 4, 2013 7:12 am
talk is cheep MarvillaPosted July 4, 2013 5:22 am
Martinez has the skills and speed to beat ggg but martinez is always getting dropped from fighters that don’t have the same power as ggg and recently has been injured after he’s fights. 4 years ago I would have said martinez by 9 rd tko but today ggg by ko in 6 or less. Martinez should consider dropping to his natural weight at 154 and fight canelo for one last big paydayPosted July 4, 2013 4:40 am
@ sc- damn u are always on point my friend! Please preach on!Posted July 4, 2013 3:18 am
I already stated that Martinez was chomping at the BIT to face GGG.Posted July 4, 2013 12:19 am
I never thought Martinez was all that great. He beat Paul Williams when he was already going down hill and a faded drunk Ghost. Every other fight Martinez had against nobody’s he looked bad. Triple G will starch Martinez within 4 rounds. I want to see Triple G against AA, Canelo, Kessler, Froch, and then Ward. Triple G needs to build more experience before taking on Ward. AA will test his endurance\rough housing skills, Kessler and Froch semi slick boxer skills, Canelo will give him a break from the big boys light tune and chance to make some easy cash before Ward. Ward will be the Grand Finale even if Triple G loses to Ward it will be a good learning experience and a great group of fights.Posted July 4, 2013 12:12 am
All credit to Martinez if he is true to his word. It’d be a good fight, but I’d say that, assuming Golovkin is still undefeated at that time, Martinez will be in against an even better version of GGG and will regret taking the fight.
Nobody is going to just sit around and wait for Martinez to recover, and especially not other champs now that they know Golovkin is the front-runner for the pay day.
Whoever comes out on top of all that (I’d tip Golovkin, with Quillin as a possible second choice), will be far, far more experienced (and probably even more dangerous and improved) than he already is. That doens’t bode well for an aging Martinez coming off a long lay off with only one tune-up (not to mention one that has looked very vulnerable in recent fights).Posted July 3, 2013 11:15 pm
Martinez can’t make 154. If he could he already would havePosted July 3, 2013 10:04 pm
Gotta favor triple G but would love to see this fight. Serio has been down a lot lately not sure what he sees thinking he’ll toy with Golvkin for 12 rounds. Guy looks dangerous to me.Posted July 3, 2013 9:37 pm
Chavez Jr. should use Golovkin as a tune up bout for his rematch with MartinezPosted July 3, 2013 9:35 pm
Yea GGG WOULD beat Martinez especially if Martinez comes back with ring rust after his injuries.Posted July 3, 2013 9:23 pm
sergio gives away 10-20 pounds in every fight..it has taken its toll on him. he needs to fight at jr middleweight, or retire….Posted July 3, 2013 8:55 pm
Yes GGG has definitely proved to me he is the real deal and will run the 160 pound deivision. I could care less what he did as an amateur though. Look at Mark Breland, he was a great amateur but that didn’t all pan out in the pros. Look at some of these cubans, all great amateur records but they are not dominating and are losing fights. Not all but many of them.Posted July 3, 2013 8:34 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
3G also knocked out Bute with headgear on and beat Andy Lee and Andre Dirrell in the amateurs. He also beat Matvey Korobov, Yordanis Despaigne and Oleg Mahskin, who were all top amateur fighters.
Those guys were not pro world champions, but they are were all very good top-level fighters. What I am talking about here… is the ease in which 3G has walked through this level of competition.
A resume with wins over Korobov, Bute, Lee, Dirrell, Rosado, Macklin, Proksa and Ishida…. isn’t bad at all — and will only get better if the other Champions agree to fight 3G. Step-up Chocolate!!!
But face it… nobody likes the idea of KTFO in front of millions of viewers. Nobody.Posted July 3, 2013 7:45 pm
Martinez really hasn’t faced top notch comp neither other than Murray who was hand picked which of course back fired on him, Macklin was ranked high and when he fought Pavlik. And we all know Pavlik has not been the same since he went to class where Hopkins was the teacher.Posted July 3, 2013 7:14 pm
Hard to believe some people on this thread calling Golovking an “all time great” give me a fraking break, the biggest names on his resume are Rosado, maklin and Proksa???
Martines is drunk. GGG would annihilate him. Martinez doesn’t have the legs or fire power to last more than 9 rounds. GGG by brutal beating ans stoppage. Someone tell this guy to retire or GGG will retire him easily.Posted July 3, 2013 7:11 pm
Seems Martinez and his camp are feeling the pressure to take on GGG. But it also sounds like he might be interested in taking that fight. I hope so. PS: ESB I made 2 comments today in total. Not too fast GTFO. Adios.Posted July 3, 2013 7:03 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Always have really liked Maravilla, but this is pure Bravado coming out of his mouth. SM doesn’t even want to fight Chocolate these days — another MW Title/Strap holder — let alone 3G.
Now put your money where your mouth is and make the fight with 3G!!! That’s what the whole world wants to see right now.Posted July 3, 2013 6:45 pm
Daniel Geale is who I follow in this division, but I like Martinez and Golovkin too. Golovkin appears to be the best of the bunch but still to be tested against top competition. At the moment I’d see Martinez-Golovkin following a similar path to the Tszyu-Judah bout (only going longer than 2 rounds) with the very patient and skilled Golovkin stalking working out his range and wearing Martinez down with head & body shots. I’d say we will have to wait 9-12 months before we see Golovkin in a real competitive fight at 160 pounds with Martinez out for a while and Geale up for his mandatory after the Barker fight.Posted July 3, 2013 6:44 pm
Steve from Florida
I like Martinez. He persevered through the hard times, and finally got some big money fights at a relatively advanced age. He’s also a great boxer, blessed with superior athletic ability and a good punch. Saying all that, however, Sergio is well past his best. If he fights GGG, (and I doubt he has any intention of doing so) he will be 39 by the time the fight is made. This will be a relatively easy fight for GGG, and I’m afraid Sergio could be seriously hurt. Not much upside for him at this stage of life, IMO.Posted July 3, 2013 6:36 pm
puncher007 – It’s a fight, and Sergio has been a TOP P4P fighter for a couple years, GGG has barely reached the TOP of the 160lb division, let alone the top of the WORLD…I’m not saying GGG can’t beat Martinez, but you’d be a fool to sleep on Martinez, as would I for sleeping on GGG.Posted July 3, 2013 6:22 pm
Martinez will get his ass whooped!! no way around it!! i dont care what anybody says! this kid has all the tools!! 345 wins 5 losses as an amature!! are you kidding?? this guy is an animal and if he is promoted properly he will be boxings biggest star!! sergio you should retire because if you try to fight him you will get hurt bad!! i predict one of the worst beat downs in history!!Posted July 3, 2013 6:09 pm
LMAO….I AM RETARDEDPosted July 3, 2013 5:47 pm
LMAO…..Porn Star….HahahahPosted July 3, 2013 5:43 pm
Macklin was simply not sharp enough to test GGG’s chin, but, Martinez IS sharp enough…not to mention, he’s very fast. I think GGG can beat Martinez, he has the skills AND the KO power to wear Martinez down, but remember, styles make fights and these two guys WILL get tangled up, Martinez is a mover but he is NOT afraid to stand and bang, GGG is a full out hunter….should be damn good! I hope it gets made.Posted July 3, 2013 5:29 pm
Williams was overrated and Martinez squandered any momentum he had from that fight away by not fighting and calling out lighter fightersPosted July 3, 2013 5:21 pm
TARK we are on the same page again buddy. GGG will KO Sergio and if he though rd 11 & 12 were tough with Chavez Jr try every RD being a nightmare….Posted July 3, 2013 5:11 pm
Martinez is grimacing after a hard hit to show that it didn’t hurt because it did.Posted July 3, 2013 5:06 pm
remember what sergio did to Paul Williams…Posted July 3, 2013 5:02 pm
Martinez is getting lucky vs brits! imagine if he faces a real fighter like ggg.Posted July 3, 2013 4:51 pm
DWC I think you are probably right but if he has one good performance left in him it could be interesting Golovkin is technically amazing seriously heavy handed economical the full package but speed is definitely on Sergio’s side and he can punch. I can see a really good fight where both fighters hit the deck but Golovkin’s clubbing power probably gets him a late stoppage but there is one intangible and that is nobody has really hurt Gennady and who knows how he will react. If he blows Martinez out even though the Argentine is getting on I think it will prove he is the real deal.Posted July 3, 2013 4:43 pm
Sergio was in a VERY TOUGH fight with Macklin…and Sergio lost a few steps since then,so how does he beat GGG???Posted July 3, 2013 4:37 pm
I am laughing at all those who see the Golovkin fight as a complete whitewash for the Khazak fighter sure he is heavy handed but Sergio is a top fighter and has speed over Gennady and can dig a bit himself. I would favour Golovkin as Sergio is a bit past his best and could get old overnight but I think it would be a great fightPosted July 3, 2013 4:30 pm
Martinez is a competitor and is probably genuinely interested in fighting Golovkin. Golovkin now represents the guy to beat. Watching Golovkin fight other slick fighters, Martinez won’t have much of a chance. 3G is too strong and tough to be concerned with Martinez shots.Posted July 3, 2013 4:21 pm
Martinez is intimidated. Like Golovkin needed another advantage, especially at this stage of their respective career trajectories.Posted July 3, 2013 4:00 pm
Sergio, Being confident is wonderful, but if you expect any knowledgeable fans to believe this, you are delusional. P.S. Best of luck healing up from surgery.Posted July 3, 2013 3:46 pm
Martinez is D.O.N.E. done! Get him out the p4p list and let’s move on.Posted July 3, 2013 3:43 pm
The problem is, Martinez has to toy with GGG for 12 rounds straight. All GGG has to do is land a big shot once. I like GGG’s chances.Posted July 3, 2013 3:30 pm
Martinez will be knocked senseless by GGG !!!!!! Martinez likes to fight bums and wannabees like chavez .Posted July 3, 2013 3:18 pm
What was all that dust on Martinez’s rear end when Macklin and Murray sent him to the canvas???
Macklin, “Grennady Golovkin is far and away the best I ever fought.”
Stick that in your straw and suck it Sergio… You’re a great fighter.. GGG is an ATG fighter…That’s the difference.. It may be few years before most people realize it … but guys like Macklin already know it.Posted July 3, 2013 3:12 pm
Sergio will be a broken toy … if and when he faces GGG.Posted July 3, 2013 3:07 pm
Its official! Martinez is on drugs! If he thinks he can easily beat GGG! If he really thought that he woulda fought the monster by now! Dude stop playing!Posted July 3, 2013 3:06 pm
I have no problem with Martinez. He has fought big names and has had some great wins, but, on recent form, he should not be talking about “Toying” with anyone. He should hold off on talking until he is ready to fight, and then he should let his fists do the talking. This is a great fight, and it should happen. There is no need to inject trash talk to hype this event.Posted July 3, 2013 2:48 pm
Jake Lead Rights
Sergio didnt look as sharp when he fought Mac. He was an easier target to hit, G3 will cut the ring off and press him into a KO. I like SM but he’s not the same guy he was just a couple of years ago. And thats ok, its to be expected when you get older. You get hurt easier and it takes longer to heal. It comes with age.Posted July 3, 2013 2:45 pm
Mitch – Haha!!Posted July 3, 2013 2:41 pm
I think Martinez has slowed down too much. Also Murray exploited weaknesses and Golovkin could follow a similar blueprint…great fight if it gets madePosted July 3, 2013 2:23 pm
That’s pretty silly! BUT, I do like the fact that he’s mentioning GGG’s name. Let’s get this fight going!!!Posted July 3, 2013 2:11 pm
Killing Moon The Soothsayer
Prove it!!Posted July 3, 2013 2:08 pm
Martinez is all talk. He tried to hand pick Murray and that backfired and he needed a hometown decision to get the win. He has yet to face the other titlest in his division. He wasted away his momentum after the Williams KO by not fighting and calling out smaller fightersPosted July 3, 2013 2:05 pm
Mick the Marmalizer
If heard Golovkin’s offer Martin Murray a title shot, which unless it can be made in Europe won’t happen due to Murray’s visa issues.Posted July 3, 2013 1:55 pm
It’s very easy to make silly comments like I would toy with him for 12 rounds, especially if there’s no chance of living up to it for at least 12 months, in which, if he’s really hurt he will not be training as he should be. I may be wrong,but, I think it’s just bravado talking like that.Posted July 3, 2013 1:47 pm