“F.A…Agreed,I liked Boytsov when he first came around and its been some time now.I know he had hand problems but something tells me it could even be more to the story” – Agreed DWC. Something’s up. Either promotional problems or something else that hasn’t been reported. His hand surgeries made the layoffs understandable a a year ago. Now what’s up? He needs to get busy. Good technical boxer with a good punch. But he’s in the Wilder heap — whatever upside he has is hypothetical due to horrible level of comp.Posted June 17, 2013 6:49 pm
Whatever you think of Charr, having already fought Vitali and signed to fight Haye, he isn’t a fighter who should be accused of needed to step up. That really is a stupid comment.Posted June 17, 2013 5:14 pm
Boystov is europes wilderPosted June 17, 2013 5:06 pm
was it me or did it seem that charr didn’t land that ko punch?Posted June 17, 2013 9:39 am
Guys, for so called boxing fans and those in the know I’m surprised at all the surprised comments like “How can Boystov’s ‘handlers’ keep him away from sturdy comp at this stage” or “Botsov has no business fighting a guy like this bum 33 fights in”. Guys Boytsov at the moment has NO handlers or promoters! When Universum were still aflot he was getting some major TV coverage and the comp was rising in each fight, from trial horses like Robert Hawkins, to Vinny Maddalone (31-4) to Taras Bidenko (26-2). But Universum has since gone under (just about) which has derailed Boytsovs career unbelievably. There is current legal issues going on there. You ask “How can his handlers let him fight such comp” WHAT Handlers? He has no steady promoter so he’s forced into these make-shift fights, a bit like Charr is. Charr has no promoter either, just self managed. Boytsov currently is quasi-self managed with a legal battle going on with UniversumPosted June 17, 2013 8:54 am
Boytson may be talented, no one’s disputing that, but he’s been in a holding pattern for about 4 years now. People complain about Wilder not fighting anyone, well at least he did that at the beginning of his career instead of right when it was starting to take off, like Boytsov did. He has no business fighting a nobody like Nesterenko. Charr had an appropriate stay-busy opponent in Mazikin, and he wanted Haye which would have been a headline type fight. I don’t know if Boytsov’s old injuries are still bothering him but even taking an opponent like this at this stage suggests he’s not too ambitious, for one reason or another.Posted June 17, 2013 8:21 am
There is nothing wrong with Denis at all. He took his time and he wore him down. He had the understanding that the opponent couldn’t go at that pace and then he landed a perfect fast accurate punch to end it. Denis is no joke and if he gets a chance to shine he will take it. Speed and accuracy kills in todays division, he has both in spades.Posted June 17, 2013 4:57 am
Ya there is something wrong with Denis. He is slow and plodding against a C level fighter. He’s cautious and gun shy with his right. He’s looking very slow. And when he did throw the right it was a sloppy looping right hook to the back of the head. I see a Joe Messi type of career if that plagued by injury, but also mismanaged. But they probably know something is up. They probably have been told there is something so wrong he should retire. So they are keeping him active and in the spotlight. Hoping to god that the kiltchko bros get desperate running lut of opponents in this talent poor division and call on Boystov to fill a hole. This would give Denis and his handlers at least one fairly big payday to walk away with……….or he’s just shot. Got lazy and lost his hunger during his long layoff……….Either way he looked like sh$t.Posted June 17, 2013 12:47 am
Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)
“Does Boytsov still have hand trouble – that is what derailed his charge before?”
That’s a very important question, Mongrel. I know that Denis was having some fairly serious hand problems a few years back. Evidently, he badly injured one of his hands as a teenage amateur and continued to fight through the pain for the first 27 fights of his pro career. In 2010, Boystov was forced to have two surgeries on his right hand to correct the injury. So then he had just one tune-up fight in 2011. In Nov. 2012, he had surgery to repair an injured elbow, which kept him out of the ring until Feb. 2013.
Hopefully, DB’s injuries have been fully corrected and all related pain has been eliminated. I hope to seem him fighting at 100% from here on out. The guy is very exciting to watch!Posted June 16, 2013 10:05 pm
Does Boytsov still have hand trouble – that is what derailed his charge before?
Some fighters can adapt to fighting with brittle hands – like Calzaghe, while some can not.
Being a smaller heavy Boytsov relied on dishing out punishment when he worked his way into range, so going for volume rather than power won`t cut it for himPosted June 16, 2013 9:13 pm
a bit unfair to Charr, who was planned to face David Haye, who backdrawn due to injury (more likely to collect bigger purse against domestic Tyson Fury).
Bojcow really needs some quality opposition.Posted June 16, 2013 8:33 pm
Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)
Correction: “… already 33-0 (26 KOs)…”Posted June 16, 2013 7:55 pm
Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)
“Denis Boytsov (33-0, 26 KO’s) stayed unbeaten with a 3rd round TKO over Oleksandr Nesterenko (9-2, 4 KO’s).” – Why? Boytsov has top 5 talent and he’s either inactive or bum hunting. Get going.” Agree with that assessment, FA. I’ve always thought that Boytsov is a REAL talent and have been absolutely dumfounded at how his handlers have been mismanaging his career. WTF?
He’s already 32-0 (25 KOs) and is READY to step-up the competition! They really need to get DB fights with one of the up-and-coming Americans or against a ranked contender.Posted June 16, 2013 7:46 pm
Hey I have to give Charr some credit he is actually an actuve fighter having fought three times already since being defeated by Vitali. Just about all “fighters” these days fight 2 times a year if that.Posted June 16, 2013 5:07 pm
Boytsov’s handlers know something about their fighter that prevents them from taking fights that are the least bit risky. At one time, he did look like a promising prospect, but they continue to put him in with the same class of low level pugs he was fighting at the start of his career, which was a number of years ago now. This guy is a red herring and his handlers know it full well. A Russian version of our own David “Nino” Rodriguez and no more than that.Posted June 16, 2013 2:18 pm
I was really impressed with Boytsov in his early days but he has declined since then.Last night I saw an ill-conditioned ordinary club fighter.He won’t go far.Posted June 16, 2013 1:19 pm
as for Charr…..
2 yrs ago he was just an unknown prospect without any fans outside his gym and moving slowly.
Now….he’s making headlines fighting journeyman.
Credit to him for being a great personality for the sport. Solid if not great fighter willing to fight anyone and going to give it his all in each fight.
Hope he gets that big fight he’s looking for and until then….I’d like to see him rid us of Maskaev and Petkovic permanently…..those wins would keep him relevant and he’d make decent dough on their name value.Posted June 16, 2013 12:46 pm
I dont think it was Nesterenkos jab that was giving him trouble….it seemed to me that his timing was way off.
He just couldnt reach the bigger guy without going thru the jab.
Give him a few more fights….hopefully not 6mos apart,and he’ll have that timing back and start slipping those types of jabs and then driving the R hand over the top.Posted June 16, 2013 12:40 pm
Charr vs Boytsov would be a good fight. Who cares about these bums they just fought. I am sick of real prospects just not stepping it upPosted June 16, 2013 11:11 am
Boysov vs. Bryant would or could be an eliminator for a title shot,but where would they fight? Both are fast and can hit with damaging effects,This would be a dream fight for the fans.Posted June 16, 2013 10:26 am
If that little pitty jab kept Boystov off for as long as it did Klitschko brothers should have no problem. I was not impressed with this performance from Boystov.Posted June 16, 2013 8:03 am
F.A…Agreed,I liked Boytsov when he first came around and its been some time now.I know he had hand problems but something tells me it could even be more to the story then that.Maybe Charr vs Boytsov in a cross road type of match.And yes credit to Charr he seems willing to fight anyone and is now atleast staying busy,there are good fights for him aswell.Posted June 16, 2013 7:37 am
Boystov looked seriously dangerous in there. Lightning fast, sharp and powerful. People aren’t wanna go near him. His punches are too accurate. That’s a future star right there.Posted June 16, 2013 6:41 am
Charr never hit him with that body punch. The ref counted to 3 and then stopped the fight …… Another fixed Germany fight!!!Posted June 16, 2013 5:15 am
Mick the Marmalizer
Charr & Boytsov = 2 future journeymen.Posted June 16, 2013 5:10 am
“Denis Boytsov (33-0, 26 KO’s) stayed unbeaten with a 3rd round TKO over Oleksandr Nesterenko (9-2, 4 KO’s).” – Why? Boytsov has top 5 talent and he’s either inactive or bum hunting. Get going.Posted June 16, 2013 4:14 am
Charr was due to face Haye before he pulled out… So u can’t blame Manuel for that, I think Charr will get in the ring with anyone that’s just the way he is, He doesn’t have the skill set to beat the top guys but atleast he’s willing to fight unlike some boxers we know.
Cmon these clowns gotta mix it up, and get their mus on TV also, not that anybody is breaking down any doors to watch!Posted June 15, 2013 6:18 pm