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Public Enemy

Even MargaCheato is hiding in the USA while his wife and child are in Mexico and he clearly said that it’s dangerous for them in Mexico if anyone believed they had any money because of the Murders and kidnappings??? but the fker is here in the USA and his wife and child are back in that crime ridden latrine..

Posted June 4, 2013 7:04 am 

Public Enemy

te tumbo – all we have to watch is that CNBC documentary “Mexican Drug Wars” to learn about Mexican History and Culture… It’s all about Greed, Corruption and Murdering your own people for a fkn Peso…

Posted June 4, 2013 7:01 am 

Public Enemy

Canelo does look a little Mongoloid and confused in that photo.. could be part Mongoloid…

Posted June 3, 2013 8:51 pm 

te tumbo

“Mongoloid” is not a scientifically-accepted classification and wikipedia is not a scholarly source. also, you would have to believe that ALL humans barely entered this continent a short 15,000 years ago to make the asian connection. in fact, archeaological digs in S. America have been carbon-dated to anywhere between 35,000 and 45,000 years old. moreover, it makes no sense that regions first inhabited(?) by humans (presumably N. America) would be the the least populous, civilized, or developed. the most logical theory is that the Americas aka Anahuac was populated in waves and most likely included the sea-faring or shipwrecked ancestors of Polynesians and the like. empires in the Valley of Mexico rose and fell hundreds and even thousands of years before the first europeans stepped foot in the Americas. you are all way out of your depth relying on “American” history and sources to explain Mexican culture and history. we don’t refer to American history as “HIS-story” for nothing and you guys are proving it with your typically ugly-American arrogance about your version of events about OTHER people’s history(?!).

Posted June 3, 2013 5:31 pm 

The Truth

You’re dead wrong about that. Here you are claiming to be Amerindian and not White, yet you don’t even know the truth about the your own race. All indigenous peoples of the Americas, including Amerindians, Native Americans and Eskimos, are Mongoloids not Caucasians. Just google it if you really want to learn the truth about your so-called La Raza. I would bet that being genetic cousins with the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and other East Asians never even crossed your mind, did it?

Posted June 3, 2013 12:02 pm 

It’s Me, Ernie

What about the Capoid race? Many scientists believe there are five major races on earth…

Posted June 3, 2013 11:58 am 

te tumbo

Mexicans like all Amerindians technically fall into the category of Caucasian, which doesn’t make them White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, i.e., “white”. the “cosmic race” as defined by Jorge Vasconcelos is very real and the philosophical basis for the use of “La Raza” to refer to the masses of Mexicans that define the Mexican identity. we don’t desire nor are we asking for the approval of outsiders. just like outsiders don’t seek La Raza’s approval for their version of their own history, culture, or national identity.

Posted June 3, 2013 11:45 am 

Beaners eat beans

Well said dumbo

Posted June 3, 2013 11:14 am 

te tumbo

Texas would classify Mexicans as Caucasian to disguise what was otherwise rampant and institutional discrimination. this was ruled to be unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of Hernandez v. Texas. CA v. Westminster did away with segregation of students according to race and ethnicity. these were the landmark cases that informed the actions of Thurgood Marshall during the Civil Rights era AFTERwards . . . Recognize . . . U.S. history (you f’n knumbskulls).

Posted June 3, 2013 10:58 am 

te tumbo

Btw, 85% of Mexicans have some degree of Amerindian blood in them. there was a lot of immigration into Mexico from europe, south America, and Cuba during the tumultuous period of the 1930s, 40s, and 50s. those are the “white” Mexican who can trace their roots to foreign shores. otherwise, if you have no knowledge of family residing outside of Mexico, you’re MEXICAN Orrr you can simply go back to where you came from. we have nothing but disdain for and can easily spare any half-stepping Raza.

Posted June 3, 2013 10:50 am 


Te tumbo sure came off foolish with the census comments.

Posted June 3, 2013 6:20 am 

te tumbo

Mexicans aren’t “white”, don’t consider themselves to be “white”, nor do whites consider Mexicans to be “white”. the census was confusing and deceptive with its groups, subgroups, and micro-groups to choose from. i still don’t feel they got an accurate bead on me based on the choices they provided. Canelo’s brothers are no more or less Mexican than Canelo with or without the red hair and freckles and unlike Obama haven’t bothered to trace their ancestry further back than Mexico, which is where Mexican began. that’s all that matters.

Posted June 3, 2013 2:44 am 

Public Enemy

This is the basic Problem with most Mexicans, they want so badly to be seen as Whites and are always quick to point out how others are non whites.. I’m watching on CNBC Prime “The Drug Wars of Mexico” and 90% of everyone shown is brown skinned or indian. I’ve seen ZERO Blondes, Blue eyed whites like you see in their Soap operas.. I’m sure they have some but hardly the Majority of the Nations makeup… as they would want everyone to believe… Chapo Guzman himself is of brown skinned.. Hardly a Scandinavian Viking…

Posted June 2, 2013 9:21 pm 

Public Enemy

Canelo is a light skinned Mexican nothing more.. will never be seen as a white by true Whites…

Posted June 2, 2013 9:17 pm 

Public Enemy

You have Asians that are lighter skinned then Canelo.. are they white or Asian???

Posted June 2, 2013 9:14 pm 

Public Enemy

Canelo is not white just another light skinned mixed Mutt Mexican.. Tell some German Canelo is white.. they’d throw him in the oven just as fast as any other infererior breed… Go tell the White Border Patrol Malitias along the Mex US border that Canelo is white and not Mexican.. they’ll laugh in your face… then they’d shoot you..

Posted June 2, 2013 9:14 pm 


“CAnelo is not white” LMFAO! neither is ritchie cunningham in your pea-sized excuse for a brain. Public Enemy the lord of idiotic comments has outdone himself once again. not all mexicans have indian ancestry, and if they were to give canelo a DNA test, they would find that his genetics are mostly european. his mother is a fair red head as well. he’s certainly not a brown indian, so he’s obviously a white man. but still a proud mexican warrior

Posted June 2, 2013 8:19 pm 

te tumbo

for a startling example of what your typical carribean “mutts” looks like, look up Luis Guzman aka “Pachanga”. this is the image that comes to mind when the word “Boricua” enters the discussion.

Posted June 2, 2013 8:18 pm 

te tumbo

Obama, Halle Berry, and Bob Marley are whiter than Canelo with traceable roots going all the way back to Ireland or Scotland or whatever European country they originally hailed from. Canelo is Mexican, which is fundamentally Amerindian stock with a healthy dose of European occupation in his blood and cultural history. i sincerely doubt that he (like most Mexicans) has any interest in knowing about any red-hair or freckles that didn’t originate in Mexico. labeling Canelo “white” doesn’t make him any less Mexican nor does it diminish the chance that he could have kids that look just like Morales or Ponce or his very own brothers from the same Mexican parents. profound ignorance are the poorly-translated and inaccurate American subtitles being provided by Col. Tark and Lt. Redmond. never mind the notoriously ignorant farts emanating from the peanuthead gallery.

Posted June 2, 2013 8:13 pm 

Public Enemy

CAnelo is not white, he’s a mixed Spanish and Indian.. basically a Mutt.. His short stature, Block head and Neanderthalish features are his indian traits..

Posted June 2, 2013 7:36 pm 

It’s Me, Ernie

Wow, you sure know your men and their pigmentation, a little fruity I’d say…

Posted June 2, 2013 7:12 pm 


U don’t believe that Martinez is white?? go to page 24 by clicking on the buttons at bottom of your screen and look at the pic of his weigh in with Martin Murray. both men have their shirts off and are facing off….notice that Martinez actually has fairer skin than the Irish/Scottish fighter from England. Combine that with his green eyes and just try telling us that Sergio is not white by race. Argentine is a nationality, NOT a race. UR a total IDIOT redmond.

Posted June 2, 2013 4:54 pm 

It’s Me, Ernie

As big of a fan of the Catskill Thunder as I am, it always seemed Evander was the fighter who Mike feared the most…

Posted June 2, 2013 2:10 pm 

It’s Me, Ernie

Good point on the Tillman style, sure didn’t help him out in the pro fight with Mike though…

Posted June 2, 2013 2:08 pm 

te tumbo

it was during the Olympic trials that Henry Tillman first exposed Tyson’s kryptonite v. skilled and athletic boxer-punchers. their best of 3 encounter resulted in Mike NOT representing the U.S. in the 84 Olympics. that matchup made such a strong impression on me that i favored Pinklon Thomas to defeat Tyson in their bout. unfortunately, “Pinkie” was too fearless for his own good and perhaps a little strung-out. anyway, i was surprised by Douglas’ win. it remains the only fight in which Douglas revealed greatness and it was v. a less-than-great-or-dedicated Tyson. i was confident that Holyfield would defeat Mike and that it was Tyson who felt fear going into that matchup. both Holyfield and Tyson knew what Evander’s expert punching-form and fundamentally-superior boxing skills would do to Mike who even in his ferocious prime was only a 5-round fighter. Tyson knew that Holyfield was good for 15 rounds and that he was in for a beatdown but instead of kissing and hugging like Ortiz v. Mayweather, he F’n bit Evander’s ear off(?!?). i still feel disgust at that dastardly act of unsportsmanship. Btw, Tillman was Demolished in his pro bout v. Tyson. along with that other Olympic standout Tyrell Biggs who was reduced to a whimpering pile of Bust by the still “Iron” Mike. the “fear-factor” got to them . . . go figure.

Posted June 2, 2013 1:24 pm 


Tyson had been in 45 fights” and look at all the available guys he could’ve fought in that campaign and all the guys he did fight. No real notable 90s fight until he faced holy. If haye fought the guys tyson fought into a klitschko bout we would be calling it “path of least resistance” and garbage like that. It was defintly overall weak resistance when you think of all the90s fighters that were fighting at the time. Really how good was “that” mike tyson? I think haye would’ve smoked him who fought holy. I think a ton of guys would beat him like they ended up doin. Tark was spot on with his posts concerning holy and tyson. Peak brewster would beat that tyson imo. A lot of guys beat tyson. A lot of guys beat holy like john ruiz. Lol. Canelo’s canelos speed and size and boxing ability make him floyds toughest fight. If canelo doesn’t win it will still be floyds toughest fight

Posted June 2, 2013 1:17 pm 


Why does floyds res matter and canelos not so much. Floyds 36 and about to retire. Canelos 22 and in the beginning of his career. I said my views on it below and your asking questions I already answered

Posted June 2, 2013 12:58 pm 


This canelo is better than the “versions” of oscar mosley and cotto that floyd fought already at this time. Canelo is already at this time gonna be floyds toughest oponent. In my opinion

Posted June 2, 2013 12:55 pm 


Ali became Listons beat opponent because of the 16 or 17 years of boxing that he did AFTER Liston… You projecting Canelos career even 5 years out? He might be Jeff Lacy or Jermaine Taylor by then… Damn you’re a FOOL you just looked in a crystal ball and decided that Canelos gonna be GREATER than Cotto, Marquez, Mosley and Oscar… Meanwhile he has ONLY beat Austin Trout, a historical nobody… Lucas Matthysee has been WAY more tested against World Class opposition.. Had he not fought Alexander in St Louis he would have only one loss to Judah on his docket, where Judah went down as did Alexander…Canelos got a 10% chance of accomplishing more than the aforementioned boxers..

Posted June 2, 2013 10:13 am 


Bears, NEVER gonna be considered Floyd’s best opponent UNLESS he beats Floyd or goes on to massive future success… If resume SUDDENLY does NOT matter then why the critiques of Floyds?? Your mind is SOOOOO weird and broken its pathetic.. Juan l Marquez, Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley and Oscar are all HOFERS… The worst guy among them is a 3 weight Champ between them the own wins over legends of the sport… Canelo is a NOBODY beyond what he has recently accomplished he became legit at the weight after beating Trout but that’s the ONLY fight he gets real respect for! In essence you are giving Canelo MORE respect for his resume than you give Floyd, Oscar, Marquez, Cotto and Mosley for theirs UNLESS it’s convienent because you tried to sell us a VERY depleted, SHOT Mosley as a BIG win for Canelo… Your a novice and Tarks right there with you trying to sell Kermit Cintron
Who had been stopped 2x and made to cry by Margarito and should have been charged with a KO against Martinez were it not for an inept ref…

Posted June 2, 2013 9:18 am 


Tark “he knew this” “he knew that” how do you know what Holyfield knew? Tyson beat plenty of fighters that were 6″2… Evander was NOT a Lennox Lewis physically … Face facts it was a historic upset and great win for Holy… You think that Adamek who got schooled by Dawson at 175 and barely got by Paul Briggs was a massive win for Vitali LMAO!! You discuss Holyfield who was a former Cruiserweight “knowing he was bigger than Tyson” well what about the Klits who DWARF most of the bums, sparring partners and C level fighters they feast on…??? What about the 6 inches and 27 pounds Vitali had on Adamek? Or Wlad with 3 inches and 35 pounds or so on David Haye? What about Byrd and Chambers who dropped back down divisions because they could no longer cut it at HW…??? Do you really wanna try and knock former Cruiser and not huge punche Holyfield for whipping Tyson’s ass??

Posted June 2, 2013 9:07 am 


Why does this BIGOT below think that Garcia and Alvarez are White Lol??? They are PuertoRican and Mexican respectively…GGG is an unproven fighter, Macklins a good step up but I don’t even rate Golovkin with Matthysee who has defeated Workd Class opposition and put the BEST boxers he faces ( Alexander, Judah, and Peterson) down… Definitely thought he beat Alexander in St Louis…Ricky Burns? You mean the kid who ducked Broner and was terrified to get beat up like Gavin Rees? I fear NO fighters, I don’t box Lol!

Posted June 2, 2013 8:59 am 


At 45 fights Tyson was in BETTER stead than Wlad Klitschko who had been knocked out 3x by then so trying to treat Tyson like an scrub when Holy fought him is WEAK…

Posted June 2, 2013 8:53 am 


Tark, if Holyfields wins over Douglas are no big deal when he was the underdog with more losses and in a BAD spot.. What about the Klits wins against fighters that NEVER ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING and got beat by whomever?? You’re a JOKE Because you were tryin to PUMPUP Canelo because he beat Lovemore Ndou and a depleted Kermit Cintron? Guess you gave Wlad 000000 credit for beating Chris Byrd and totally derided Vitali because he QUIT AGAINST him… Remember Bryd got blown out in SHORT order by Ike Ibeabuchi…Still think Holyfied who was an 11-1 underdog deserves no credit??? Your train of logic is riddled with Bias… You pump Alvarez over beating a DEAD, Shot version of Mosley but Tyson with a 45-1 record has no cache??

Posted June 2, 2013 8:50 am 


My point about resumes is this. Clay had like 17 fights with noone I realy even know before he smoked list 2 times in a row who had roughly 40 fights and was the champ with the resume. Legacy wise and greatness wise and for analyzing purposes a resume is great. But in every fighters career there was a beginning where they didn’t have much of one. Caelos lack of a resume and therefore worse than many floyd opponents has no bearing on the quality of opponent canelo is. I thought that was obvious. Canelo is floyds toughest opponent to date if you ask me. After this fight I will definetly say canelo is floyds best opponent. If floyd wins I will be impressed for sure. Although ali had no res when he fought liston, he was listons best opponent. And noone knew the greatness that layed ahead of clay. Funny thing after clay fought liston he changed his name to cassius x, then he changed it to muhhamad ali. Took a couple tries but cassius was eventually figured out his nation of isam name he liked best. Lol. But the better your resume, or the larger, the more we have tae to analyze, judge, deduce, and draw inferences. For our own views and opinions.

Posted June 2, 2013 12:07 am 


REDMOND must relax and enjoy the finer things, such as fried chicken and watermelon and a nice cold glass of grape kool-aid to wash it all down. because facing the truth about whites taking over boxing is very bad for his ulcer.

Posted June 1, 2013 10:26 pm 


Klitschko Bros – Unstoppable HW KINGS of the RING for a decade
Marco Huck – Current CW Champion
Krzysztof Włodarczyk – Current CW Champion
Sergey Kovelev – Future Light HW Champion
Gennady Golovkin – Future Undisputed MW Champion of the World
Saul Alvarez – Current Jr. MW Champion
Danny Garcia – Current Jr. WW Champion
Ricky Burns – Current LW Champion
Evgeny Gradovich – Current FW Champion
Carl Frampton – Future Super BW Champion
Jamie McDonnell – Current BW Champion

More Whitemares Coming Soon to Theater Near You!!!
Hey Redmond, the sky is falling, the sky is falling!

Posted June 1, 2013 8:25 pm 


Sredmond is back talking about the K Bros on this thread… Holyfield’s wins over Tyson are diminished because Buster Douglas already proved that a good peak boxer, with good size, could dominate Tyson…

Tyson never fought a natural prime heavyweight who was a fair boxer until he met Tony Tucker. Tucker was easy to hit but hard to stop. He took everything Tyson could throw. He was 6’5” X 225. He was tough until his chin wore down from getting hit too much. That fight opened Buster Douglas’s eyes because he knew he had better skills than the wide open Tucker.

Holyfield knew he was 3 inches taller and just as big and strong as Tyson. He knew his skills were much better. He knew Tyson couldn’t box and never beat a big, powerful prime, skilled boxer. Holyfield blitzed Douglas so he knew Douglas wasn’t much. The thing that knocks Holyfield down is his Bowe fights. Bowe was a big, lazy, slow, dumb, wide open target—but Bowe beat a prime-time Holyfield twice, knocked him down 3 times, and knocked him out. The Tyson fights become shortly after the last Bowe fight. But if you flattened a guy who trounced your next opponent it gives you a lot of confidence. Holyfield had tremendous confidence against Tyson and that unnerved Mike. Larry Donald, David Haye, Eddie Chambers, Tomasz Adamek, and Juan Carlos Gomez were more skilled than any list of Holyfield victims you can produce. Losing to John Ruiz? That really sucks. The K Bros beat all comers for more years than Holyfield held his various titles. Vitali has never been outboxed in his life. He’s never been behind on points. He’s never been knocked down. And those things happened to Evander a lot … Plus EH ducked Lewis for years.

Posted June 1, 2013 6:07 pm 


Bears, I see you DUCKING the crushing contradictions you display about “Feather Fists” and the resumes of fighters.. These juicy morsels will be haunting you shortly along with other prize tidbits you have provided…Your “interpretation of the tape” is characteristically skewed and provides NO quality insight… Your version of that is calling Canelo “The Matrix” LMAO!!

Posted June 1, 2013 6:02 pm 


This fight is BADASS. I don’t think I’ve sad that about any mayweather fight. Finally! I can be entertained by a mayweather bout. Notice you start talking proof to sodomy activist redmond and he skates ouuta here quick as lightning

Posted June 1, 2013 5:32 pm 

spin the kinks

This fight is a farce.

Posted June 1, 2013 4:16 pm 


Typeing from my phone is sucking I’m gonna have 2 jump on the computer. But like I was saying ANY highlight film u find. Any. Is gonna be the canelo show. There’s areason for that. Because it was the canelo show.

Posted June 1, 2013 3:47 pm 


I’ve watched the whole fight sodomy activst redmond. Multiple times. Don’t take my posts out of context. I said “if you were to watch any highlight film of canelo vs trout you will see its the canelo show”. So if trout did so good surely there are some highlights of it out there or even after round highlights right? Find them then let me know how to find the link. Time to start usng proof sodomy activist redmond or its time for you to GTFO. I can furnish you with some highlight links fo canelo

Posted June 1, 2013 3:14 pm 


Bears, You discuss watching “Canelos highlights”
Against Trout on YouTube… Idiot those showcase the BEST moments that’s why we watch the WHOLE fight… But then again your the same moron who did a bogus documentary on the Klits/Lewis bout and felt the last two rounds were irrelevant… Even the round Canelo put Trout down in, he fought back WELL and assured Canelo was NOT stopping him or putting him down AGAIN… Plus he kept pressing for the win… But of course your tainted eyes saw a shutout LMAO!

Posted June 1, 2013 3:05 pm 


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You call Canelo “The Matrix” and the guy who is bending you over “Gonzo” says “Canelo did not win a SINGLE round against Trout” you guys must have interesting pillow talk about these matters…. Canelos about to be in the Matrix VERY soon and Neo lives in Las Vegas, drives Bentleys and beats ANYONE who gets in the ring with him….I GUARANTEE you are gonna be boring us with LOADS of excuses in 3 months thats your pattern… “Today he is gonna beat Floyd but if he loses its because of X,Y,Z” you’re NOT a real fight fan its obvious…”Canelo the Matrix”…. Laughable that boy needs and oxygen tank, while 36 year old Mayweather gets his most crisp in the Championship rounds as 43 boxers have found out…

Posted June 1, 2013 2:52 pm 


Bears, below you say that you DESPISE a fighter with 4x and Undisputed HW Champion Evander Holyfields qualities?? Well you must have HATED a few of the Klitschkos well known opponents like Chris Byrd who could not hit worth a damn despite his skill and NEVER accomplished close to what Holy did at the weight… Byrd ended his career dropping back down to Cruiser or LHW and getting stopped down there (he was good enough to be in the ring when Vitali QUIT) or Eddie Chambers who is another LIGHT hitter exploring life in lower divisions despite having skills? he never was a Champion at the weight…. What about Tomas Adamek who Vitali bludgeoned in a GROSS physical mismatch?? Adamek is NOT stopping peeps at HW and has gotted some VERY questionable calls against Cunningham and light hitting Chambers….Are these these guys worse than Holy who won the belt 4 times, Beat Bowe, Tyson 2X, Moorer and Foreman?? The Klits have NEVER stopped a boxer the quality of Tyson at age 30 with a SINGLE loss on his record… You were clapping like a teenager who found out she was not pregnant when Vitali beat Briggs who damn near needed an inhaler between rounds at the age of 38 or so… All you do is CONTRADICT every convienent thesis you concoct…

Posted June 1, 2013 2:40 pm 


“You despite light hitters” I think you mean despise. I certainly don’t prefer them but I don’t always despise them. And they can win fights. Look at histories most notable feather fisted heavyweight holyfield. Now that is a terrible combo. Being a bigtime feather fist and at heavyweight of all divisions. Now that to me is deplorable. It disgusts me. When I think of floyd mayweather I certainly don’t consider him a stoppage master. If canelo is going to grow into one remains to be seen. But no I’m not thebiggest trout fan. But then again I don’t have to be a trout fan to learn from trout vs cotto, may vs cotto, and canelo vs trout. Or did I need to be a fan of some kind to glean anything from these bouts? What is your line of thinking here? Your coming off as kind of dumb. My general taste for and regard of feather fists have nothing to do with anything.

Posted June 1, 2013 1:24 pm

Posted June 1, 2013 2:34 pm 


Bears, Oscar De La Hoya’s opinion is FARRRRRR from neutral and he is often the laughingstock of the boxing world when it comes to predicting Floyd Mayweathers demise… He’s CANELOS promoter he said that Guerrero was gonna win too, and Shane before that and he will say that about the NEXT guy they put in there….Mosley was a WASHED UP stepping stone coming up from 147 for whats likely his LAST decent payday he was last seen fighting outside the country and is gonna end up on Friday night fights if this continues…That win showed us VERY little about Canelo he was facing a SHOT fighter…. Trout was by far his best win but in that bout despite those scores which were WAY too wide he showed some good and bad points to trained observers… People walked away wondering how he would have fared with his fighting in spurts had he NOT known one of the judges had him up prohibitively after a SHORT time… On the flipside he showed improved defense in spurts that was NOT a starmaking performance on par with Mayweather vs Corrales or Broner vs Demarco where a guy was dismantled and taken out…

Posted June 1, 2013 2:33 pm 


Bears, you say “that resume and ring accomplisments cannot fight for you” well if these things DO NOT matter in terms of a fighters quality why have you been such a VOCAL critic of Floyds matchups? and why do you think you can have dual perspectives when it suits your argument??? BUSTED

Posted June 1, 2013 2:28 pm 


Cotto looked good against floyd. I just watched that fight again. Busted him in the shnoz. Your resume or ring accomplishments can’t fight for you. All because cotto beat margareato or jmm beat pac, or mosley beat oscar in his prime, or canelos resume is not quite as good as some other floyd opponent is irrelevant. Floyds not fighting resumes he’s fighting a fighter canelo matrix alvarez. In terms of gleaning how good canelo is, you can sel canelo short if you want. Canelo will .ot replicate what washed up cotto, oscarc and mosley did. He will go beyond that. You heard it here first. CANELO WINS

Posted June 1, 2013 12:47 pm

Posted June 1, 2013 2:25 pm 


If I’m using any one fight to sell canelo its trout but not usng any one fight. I’ve pointed out exponential growth and development in canelos last 3 fights and probably stretching back further than that. Mosley was an ok opponent for 21 year old canelo and if u ask me canelo has improved a lot since that fight in just two fights. Oscar pointed this out too when discussing canelo. I thought canelo vs mosley was a good fight. I don’t think mosley was all the sudden half the fighter he was when he faced mayweather like you contend I think that’s ignorant. What I do think is mosley was a suitable oponent for then 21 year old canelo. I don’t think he was suitable for the so called number one p4p fighter. I would rather have seen pac or martinez face floyd. Mosley vs floyd was another forgone conclusion. But we were treated with mosely jacking that jaw. Was mosley vs floyd ppv material? Not to me. Neither was ortiz or guerrero or many floyd bouts for that matter. But that’s my preference as a fan. Canelo vs floyd is bigtime ppv to me though. And floyds most dangerous opponent to date

Posted June 1, 2013 1:59 pm 


“You despite light hitters” I think you mean despise. I certainly don’t prefer them but I don’t always despise them. And they can win fights. Look at histories most notable feather fisted heavyweight holyfield. Now that is a terrible combo. Being a bigtime feather fist and at heavyweight of all divisions. Now that to me is deplorable. It disgusts me. When I think of floyd mayweather I certainly don’t consider him a stoppage master. If canelo is going to grow into one remains to be seen. But no I’m not thebiggest trout fan. But then again I don’t have to be a trout fan to learn from trout vs cotto, may vs cotto, and canelo vs trout. Or did I need to be a fan of some kind to glean anything from these bouts? What is your line of thinking here? Your coming off as kind of dumb. My general taste for and regard of feather fists have nothing to do with anything.

Posted June 1, 2013 1:24 pm 


Trout can’t punch worth a damn” lol did you see cotto vs trout and cotto vs mayweather? Lol cotto did muc better against may and go absolutely dominated by trout and then u say trout can’t punch. Who are you really insulting here? Hmmmmmm lol. I think it wuld be more aptly put “you can’t watch boxing woth a damn (which is sad) I wonder if you could glean your getting wet when its raining?” I wonder if anyone else in the world could watch cotto vs trout and respond with “trout can’t punch worth a damn”. As far as gonzo disagreeing with me. Lol @redmond. Most will disagree with me. I’m taking the underdog. I’ve never met a man I agree with all the time and neither has yourself. In fact never met a person I agree with all the time and neither have you. Gonzo and I are not on a team anywhere but in your mind. Gonzo is one of many cool posters like tark. I don’t always agree with tark but I agre with him a lot. Don’t always agre with boxtra but he busts out some good posts sometimes. Don’t agree with earnie often, but when he called you a sodomy activist I thought it was one of the funiest things I’ve read in awhile. Most posters are pretty easy goin, pretty cool, and offer a little substance. However, u do not.

Posted June 1, 2013 1:02 pm 


Cotto looked good against floyd. I just watched that fight again. Busted him in the shnoz. Your resume or ring accomplishments can’t fight for you. All because cotto beat margareato or jmm beat pac, or mosley beat oscar in his prime, or canelos resume is not quite as good as some other floyd opponent is irrelevant. Floyds not fighting resumes he’s fighting a fighter canelo matrix alvarez. In terms of gleaning how good canelo is, you can sel canelo short if you want. Canelo will .ot replicate what washed up cotto, oscarc and mosley did. He will go beyond that. You heard it here first. CANELO WINS

Posted June 1, 2013 12:47 pm 


Bears, see YOUR mentors post below it directly contradicts YOUR thesis on the Canelo fight or do you agree that Alvarez did NOT win a SINGLE round against Trout? This is the type of ridiculous game playing that FAKE fight fans like yourself and Gonzo engage in… Who in the World would propose that Canelo did not even win the round he knocked Trout down in? I KNOW that you will waffle and squirm because you are NOT man enough to defend your stance against a guy who’s scrotum you cradle no matter the conversation…. I would NOT be surprised to see Gonzo disavow his comments if its expedient but alas we ALL know what he’s doing…. Like I said you are inconsistent… Trout cannot punch worth a damn and when I picked Canelo that was my main point of contention.. Trouts size worked for him against Canelo who is a SMALL SMW not standing much taller than Pacquiao vs Trout who is a solid 6″0 and heavier at 170 pounds on fight night.. Just keeping you honest FOOL…

Posted June 1, 2013 11:34 am 


GONZOS POST…….Gonzo the Dragonborn
FA.. Canelo didn’t win a round in his last fight against August Trout on my card. It was a total schooling. And I had a very interesting conversation with Public Enemy the other day where he so astutely pointed out that Trout had Canelo backed up against the ropes in one of the rounds, quivering in mortal fear. It even looked like he was out of it for a second and that the ropes where holding him up. And judging by the expression on the referee’s face, it looked like he was about to jump in a stop it to me. I also remember Miguel Cotto’s brother in law’s son nearly put Canelo to sleep with a little love tap on the whiskers too. That dude was only a blown up bantamweight to

Posted May 30, 2013 6:29 pm

Posted June 1, 2013 11:29 am 


Bears, I thought you HATE light punchers? YET you are all over Austin Trout like he’s Julian Jackson… Trout cannot punch worth a damn he has NOT stopped a single World Class opponent… His KO percentage is 51% and he has not stopped another fighter since 2011, a guy who was 15-4 before that it was 2009 a guy who was 9-4…. I think Trouts a very good boxer but then again I have a history of RESPECTING pure boxers and well as guys who can lay you out… Whats your story? is it changing? but then AGAIN you DON’T have a story its a byproduct of whatever the latest BS you are trying to sell tells you….AGAIN Trouts a very solid win for Canelo but I see beneath the story… Most reasoned observers do NOT think that Canelo dominated Trout… In fact YOUR new ESB Pimp “Gonzo” said he does NOT think Canelo won a SINGLE round if I read him correctly…??? We all KNOW thats ridiculous and simply an attempt to set the table for a Canelo loss and subsequent devaluation of a Mayweather victory… Its always good to note the inconsistencies of FAKE fight fans and call them out…AGAIN you despite light hitters but suddenly Trout is “The man” ??

Posted June 1, 2013 11:25 am 


Bears, your analysis could NOT be WORSE…. There is NOT a single fighter on Canelos resume or ANYONES from 140-154 that approximates the package that Floyd Mayweather brings to the ring.. The GROSS overestimations of Canelo based on Trout are the province of amateurs…. Trout beat a BETTER fighter than Canelo EVER did and he STILL lost to Canelo… If you think that Trout accomplished more in his career than future Hall of Famer and 3 division World Champion Miguel Cotto you are CRAZY….The guys who have given Floyd the most difficult fights over the past several years are HOF veterans who have had MANY World Title fights and upper echelon foes ie Oscar De La Hoya who boxed very well for 7 rounds but succumbed to the faster hands and superior conditioning of FMJ… Miguel Cotto who did NOT get blown out of rounds even as he was losing the majority of them and actually gained Floyds respect MORE than any other opponent in a LONG time….Floyd has almost had MORE World Title fights than Canelo has years on the planet 21….He often tells fighters at the “Face OFF” “It looks VERY different in there with me than it does on TV”…. Malignaggi broke it down and discussed the many subtle things FMJ does that other fighters are ill prepared for… He is EASILY the GREATEST Ring General in the past 10 years and he does it without devastating power… Canelo is a kid who compared to Floyd has NOT been tested worth a damn….Canelo has a PUNCHERS chance and nothing more, he’s young and big…If he stands in the middle of the ring he is gonna get terribly humiliated…

Posted June 1, 2013 11:12 am 

te tumbo

Btw, i didn’t catch anything in Trout’s win over Cotto that indicated he could defeat Canelo. first of all, Cotto is a poor and inaccurate measure at 154lbs. also, Trout emerged looking like a very conventional, i.e., predictable fighter, which turned out to be an advantage for Canelo. he knew precisely what to expect and prepare for. the same advantage did not exist for Trout resulting in “shock” and awe at Canelo’s execution and ability to foil him at every turn. this is what paralyzed Trout for the duration of the bout. it wasn’t open scoring. it was not being able to get off with any of the weapons he prepared for the bout. enabling Canelo to dominate in every aspect of the contest. as dominant a performance as Mayweather’s over Guerrero.

Posted June 1, 2013 10:44 am 

te tumbo

if open scoring reveals a losing fighter’s lack of dimensions, what’s wrong with that? i enjoyed watching Trout trying to get to Canelo, which also compelled Canelo to display his own unexpected dimension of defense, footwork, and counterpunching. if open scoring forces a fighter to display abilities beyond the predictable, it’s a good thing. in fact, the biggest gripe against open scoring expressed in this thread seems to be that it wasn’t Canelo having to chase Trout and whose fault was that? not the judges but Trout himself who was caught completely flat-footed and “Shocked” by Canelo’s ability to execute a multi-dimensional fight-plan according to the situation that unfolded in the ring. if open scoring reveals potential greatness, i’m all for it.

Posted June 1, 2013 10:16 am 


“NO. He’s telling you to learn more about Boxing. ONE man cannot score a SD. DUNCE.” Correctadipstick, when you predicted the outcome of the Canelo/Trout bout you said “Canelo by Robbery.” Then just recently in another thread you said Canelo beat Trout because he fought exactly as you said he should. PLEASE shut up about boxing until you learn not to be a two-faced, lying maggot. Thank you very much.

Posted June 1, 2013 10:14 am 


I’m watching may vs cotto again. So since this fights at 152 may can where 8oz gloves??? Like he likes? Canelo is getting through that body mass. May wil not be able to be stationary against cotto at all. The rolling deffense won’t wor

Posted June 1, 2013 5:34 am 


OK… What happened with Trout was this… Canelo was a mile ahead and it became foolish to take chances. Make Trout force the action because he’s not a great attacker. Trout almost slip his liver trying to get all those rounds back — with total ineffectiveness.

The fight would have been altogether different without open scoring.. Can you imagine Floyd needing a KO? He’d be as hopeless as Trout. That’s what I hate about open scoring. A poor attacker with no punch has ZERO chances if he gets behind.. The action crawls to a snail’s pace because the puncher is saying, “HAHAHAHA.. Come get me sucker. Get on your war horse and charge you anemic ant.”

Posted June 1, 2013 2:34 am 


The day Canelo beats Mayweather is the day that Starbuck’s offers affordable prices.

Posted June 1, 2013 2:27 am 


Bears l agree Canelo has great combos, but he didn’t throw them against Trout. Against Josesito he had awesome combos didn’t see that with Trout. Also in the Trout fight Canelo got tired often, l think Canelo is to young an untested for Mayweather.I only.had Canelo beating Trout by a round it was a very close fight.

Posted June 1, 2013 1:22 am 


NO. He’s telling you to learn more about Boxing. ONE man cannot score a SD. DUNCE.

Posted June 1, 2013 12:38 am 


But I bet you already knew that. You’re just looking to split hairs.

Posted June 1, 2013 12:16 am 


“How the Hell does that work??? You don’t write up 3 scorecards.. You either score it to Trout or you don’t.” Whatever, Tark! What I was trying to say is that I would give the win, by narrow margin to Trout.

Posted June 1, 2013 12:15 am 

spin the kinks

Another boring 12 Round UD for Mayweather.

Posted May 31, 2013 10:36 pm 


Let’s look at the last 3 fights of both fighters. Since the mayweather vs ortiz bout wasn’t “really” a fight we will skip that and go to mosely, to cotto, to guerrero. Canelo has mosely, lopez, and trout. I think we all know the most notable things of floyd vs mosely and cotto. Canelo u just watch vastly in each fight showing all kinds of weapons. What is canelos natural weight would u say? 171? Whatever it is canelo is STOUT. Mayweather is gonna feel those punches anywhere on the body mass canelo strikes. Yes I know canelos resume isn’t the best o al floyd opponents but canelo is definetly floyds best opponent and matchup to date. No more feasting on little guys. No more slow feather fists. Mayweather will be the smaller guy and he won’t be punching harder than canelo. This bout happens (floyd may back out before its all said and done) its such an awesome matchup

Posted May 31, 2013 10:29 pm 


Canelo should have used Cotto as a punching bag prior to accepting a fight with Mayweather.

Posted May 31, 2013 10:24 pm 


Trout looked like he was afraid of getting on the inside, he gave Canelo too much respect. Did he think he was gonna get the decision? He should have jumped on him in the middle rounds. Money is gonna jump on this kid the minute Canelo shows a hint of slowing down. Maywaether UD, easy.

Posted May 31, 2013 9:13 pm 

Tomato Can

Canelo was the better fighter against Trout. But he wasn’t as outstanding as Bears says. That’s over exaggeration. Trout presented Canelo problems, and Canelo past the test. Bit Trout didn’t do half bad himself.

Posted May 31, 2013 8:49 pm 


I watched the fight. Trout lost every phase but work rate. He landed pretty much nothing meaningful. He got jacked up. Canelo looked awesome. I watched canelos last 3 fights today. In the trout fight canelo dodges like 7 punches in a row and I wear it looks like the matrix. The last dodge he’s coming and turning to the side and watching trouts punch like its slow motion with his hands at his waste like he’s neo in the matrix! SAUL “CANELO” “MATRIX” ALVAREZ!….!!!! Is coming for floyd………..floyd nut garglers look out!!!! Beware!!!!

Posted May 31, 2013 8:16 pm 

Tomato Can

I saw Alvarez/Trout as a close fight. I had Alvarez up by 2 rounds. There were a lot of close rounds in that fight. The open scoring was a lousy idea. Personally I think it affected the fight. Without the open scoring, Canelo may have come on stronger in the later rounds, and who knows what could have taken place from there…. Down with open scoring, I say.

Posted May 31, 2013 7:47 pm 

te tumbo

PEEJ, i’ll ask once again, in which of the following categories do you not believe Canelo dominated Trout?: 1) Offense 2) Defense 3) Footwork. otherwise, it was as dominant a win for Canelo as Mayweather’s was over Guerrero. i can’t recall a single meaningful punch landed by Trout. i also can’t recall ever seeing a presumably skilled boxer miss so many punches in a row in each and every round. Trout was also dropped and wobbled several times without returning the favor to Canelo even Once. perhaps you were mesmerized by Trout’s posturing(?) but in terms of actual execution, Trout was DOMINATED in every category you can think of. “Shocked” is the word that Trout used to describe the encounter. exactly what did i miss that compels you to insist that his was a close bout?

Posted May 31, 2013 7:41 pm 

Tomato Can

It’s called multi-personalities. Lol

Posted May 31, 2013 7:26 pm 


Damn type-o’s. I meant to say “post provodnikov” below about bradley and “score” in the last post. Sorry bout all these missed letters

Posted May 31, 2013 6:56 pm 


ohhhh that was funny. Yes how does that work. U would core it a split decision huh!? R u schizo? Lol…..good stuff tark

Posted May 31, 2013 6:49 pm 


….., “Absent the knockdown I might have scored it a narrow SD for Trout.” … You’d score it a narrow SD??? How the Hell does that work??? You don’t write up 3 scorecards.. You either score it to Trout or you don’t.

Posted May 31, 2013 6:43 pm 


Canelo did not look badass against Trout. It was a very close fight, one that I had Trout winning by a round. If you say he looked bad ass because he stood there and moved his head something Canelo has never done before then ok. But other than that, he looked amateurish throwing those wide looping punches and missing. Only problem was Trout didn’t make him pay like he should of

Posted May 31, 2013 6:28 pm 


Hidalgo-Well I couldn’t disagree with u more. Canelos a beast and your selling him short. He looked badass against trout. Watch any canelo vs trout highlight vid on youtube and u will c it. Canelo is the pefect threat to mayweather given what’s become of pac and martinez with martnezs surgery’s. Canelos a beast plain nd simple. Will provide a much better fight than bradley and canelo wil bring excitement and action. He’s not pot brutalized by provodnikov either. Canelos better han trout. Dropped his ass and gavehim his first loss after he dominated cotto. I think your views are misguided hidalgo

Posted May 31, 2013 6:23 pm 

Richard Bulger

Plus, I think Canelo will come in at fight time under 160 and NOT the rumored 172 blow up. At under 160 he will agile and fast. Why should he blow up to 170 and be a slow slug. He won’t.

Posted May 31, 2013 6:10 pm 


Public Enemy get real bro you dont even believe it will be even a little bit easy for Floyd…Canelo is alot faster , stronger, hungrier and younger than you think. Bet on this Mayweather will be in a WAR!

Posted May 31, 2013 5:42 pm 



Posted May 31, 2013 5:18 pm 


Bears, Canelo spent too much energy showing off how he could evade Trouts punches. His fight plan for that bout involved too much upper body movement and moving around in general. He was in constant motion and by the later rounds of the fight, as we all saw, he was dropping his arms to his sides because he was so tired. Besides that he looked downright gassed throughout several rounds. Plus, he was so busy avoiding Trout’s punches, that he threw relatively few of his own. The only reason I gave the win to Canelo was that he landed more power punches, he was more effective than Trout was, and he knocked Trout down once. But is was a very, very close fight. Had Canelo not scored the KD I probably would have scored the fight a draw or a very narrow SD for Trout. No matter, based on what I saw in Canelo’s performance against Trout, Floyd will handily beat Alvarez. The two-pound catchweight will help to insure that Floyd gets his win.

Honestly, I’d rather see Mayweather fight Trout or Bradley at this time, but we know that isn’t going to happen. I’d also like to see Floyd fight Malignaggi, Abregu (currently ranked #1 contender by the WBC) or even Jesse Vargas who is currently ranked 6th by the WBC and 5th by the WBA, or even Keith Thurman who is ranked 4th by the WBA, and even Diego Chaves who is ranked #1 contender by the WBA. These guys are all bonafide welterweights–the division in which Floyd fights best. In addition to seeing Floyd fight Trout, in the jr. middleweight division my choices would include Angulo and Lara. I think a Mayweather fight with Lara would be especially competitive because Lara like Mayweather is a natural boxer.

Posted May 31, 2013 4:30 pm 

Tomato Can

The only thing that makes Canelo a stern test, is the size difference. Canelo isn’t the best fighter that Mayweather has faced, and he isn’t a better fighter than Mayweather.

Posted May 31, 2013 4:28 pm 


Then he gives trout his first defeat and his first knockdown. Canelo now just has to prepare for floyds shooting from as wide a range floyd can get on canelo’s speed and then waiting for canelo to come forward and strike, mayweather will try to move to position to hit canelo like an advanced counter. like a check hook. floyds movement in combination with his striking (the creating of angles) is the unique style canelo has to prepare for. Mayweather will not stay stationary too long against canelo like he has made the mistake of doing against others. it will be waaaaaay to costly on mayweather if he does that………….staying stationary against canelo and mayweather gets hurt. quick

Posted May 31, 2013 4:01 pm 


I just went back through the tape of canelo vs mosley, lopez, and trout. MAN!!!! canelo just keeps in improving and how about those combos he starts to put together? I love those combos!!! Especially, the uppercut to the left hook to the body. Just awesome. This kid has a such a bright future. Obviously, I think the trend will continue. Canelo’s inside fighting. Speed closing the gap. And his deffense. He literally made trout miss like 7 or 8 punches in a row at times. Just phenomenal. He finished one dodge fest off by going back and kind of turning to the side. watching every punch of trouts. We will see canelo continue to improve and thus enter the ring EVEN BETTER against floyd. I think his stamina/wind will be squared away. I hope he is sparring some great fighters in prep for this bout. This fight could be the fight of the DECADE. I will be surprised if floyd doesnt back out when that reality sets in.

Posted May 31, 2013 3:58 pm 


I believe the cotto that enters the ring with maweather will be better than the “versions” of oscar, mosley, and cotto floyd fought. Canelo will be foyds best oponent to date. And if floyd wins I wil certainly be impressed big time. My money is on canelo. I got canelo winning and you all HEARD IT HERE FIRST

Posted May 31, 2013 3:18 pm 


The oscar, mosely, and cotto did some stuff well. I’m sure canelo can more than replicate what they had success with.

Posted May 31, 2013 2:27 pm 


Floyd making a mistake? This writer is an idiot! Canelo may be the one making the mistake

Posted May 31, 2013 1:38 pm 

te tumbo

Plus I will swallow the winner.

Posted May 31, 2013 1:11 pm 

Tomato Can

A possible loss towards the end of ones career shouldn’t be looked at as a big mistake. Canelo is quick enough to catch Mayweather with something he doesn’t see, if Mayweather makes a mistake. I’m pretty sure that won’t happen much, but sometimes all it takes is once.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:04 pm 


Whats all this talk about> Nice to have wont make much a difference here. Actually it would serve Canelo NOT to come in around 170 but at around 165. At 170 he wil be sluggish and Money will pick him apart. At 165 or there abouts he will be light enough to be agile. I mean really whats his fight plan, to cut of the ring and muscle Money? Yoiu think he doesnt know that? Its also not like Canelo is the best at cutting off the ring. He also tires in his fights in the later riounds. So enough about the weight, its not that big an advantage. The only reason they are having it at 152 is simply psychological to make Canelo think he needs to do more.

Posted May 31, 2013 11:43 am 

te tumbo

not a “big mistake”. it’s simply a risk that the greatest fighters are supposed to take. however, let’s be clear, it’s the huge PPV payday that’s compelled “Money” to take this risk. he doesn’t fear losing to a superior opponent. i don’t think that thought seriously troubles the likes of Floyd but missing out on an historical payday does seriously trouble Mayweather. as far as “Money” is concerned “if it makes money, it make sense” remains the guiding principle of his career trajectory. having already earned two “Ws” at 154lbs, Canelo qualifies as a logical opponent and the biggest payday that Mayweather can not and will not ignore.

Posted May 31, 2013 11:04 am 


This is the first Prime Fighter in his weight class that Floyd will face since Castillo so it’s risky the rest have been Old has beens or Little guys who wanted a crack at Mayweather for the pay check

Posted May 31, 2013 10:23 am 


saying its a mistake would be calling floyd a coward, its a fight this is what fighters do, theres only a handful of guys that are competitive with floyd should be a good fight

Posted May 31, 2013 9:51 am 


Floyd Sr. said, in preparation for Guerrero he had Jr. spar middleweights and light heavies. There you have your answer what they were looking at…

Posted May 31, 2013 9:46 am 


clueless Author doesn’t realise it IS a Catch-weight ddduuhhh

Posted May 31, 2013 9:41 am 

Dan D

Floyd will manage to pull this off but Canelo will make a fight of it but the UD will be Mayweathers. Trouble is, after owning the titles at 147 and 154 against all the best in the division, who will be left to fight?
Peiople were already saying Martinez but he seems to have faded enough to look very beatable now so GGG a top 160lb’er is being mentioned. After he gets by Alvarez people will say he beat a guy weighing close to LHW so a fully fledged middle wont be a problem.

Posted May 31, 2013 9:27 am 


malachi – you seriously believe showtime gave floyd a $250m contract without making damn sure they got to choose bankable opponents?

regardless, credit to floyd for taking the fight, he’ll prove a point when he wins this one.

Posted May 31, 2013 9:19 am 


if he fights nobodies like you and i he’d still get his same amount so for him to step out and fight this beast should say alot about floyd he’s maturing and not just wants people to see he has skill and is the best in the business but he does care about his legacy at the end of the day…..yezzir!

Posted May 31, 2013 9:14 am 


zjerr`floyd doesn’t have to fight anybody he doesnt want to it doesnt matter who he fights he’s already contracted to make 250 million dollars regardless,his money is already in the bank he dictates who he fights it’s simple,he’s trying to prove a point my boy…eazy!

Posted May 31, 2013 9:03 am 


Floyd always win so calm down

Posted May 31, 2013 8:57 am 


Thought this would be floyds cash out fight,looks like he’s watched Canelos last half a dosen fights and saw he is another GB hype job,may as well take an easy 40-45 million and move on,he’ll get no credit win lose or draw anyway.wish I could make a few 40m quid mistakes.

Posted May 31, 2013 8:43 am 


Now we know for sure that Floyd’s last fight didn’t do over a million ppv buys. This is why he has to fight Canalo.

Posted May 31, 2013 8:38 am 


Public Enemy: If there was a 160lb rehydration weight gain clause; there would have been talk about that as well.

Posted May 31, 2013 8:35 am 

Video killed the radio star

iPod beat the mini disc.

Posted May 31, 2013 8:26 am 

Video killed the radio star

VHS beat the Betamax.

Posted May 31, 2013 8:11 am 


Why do we only here these kind of request when Floyd is setting a fight with a good opponent. We don’t need all these new rules extra steroid test rehydration, this has been boxing since forever everyone always puts on weight after weigh in.

Posted May 31, 2013 8:03 am 

Video killed the radio star

That’s an updated thing, as in video killed the radio star, get it, a joke.
Firstrow sports, ppv star.

Posted May 31, 2013 7:55 am 

Video killed the radio star

Firsstrow sports killed the PPV star.

Posted May 31, 2013 7:53 am 


Said it before and I will say it again…. Respect to both.

Posted May 31, 2013 7:36 am 


Floyd felt for his critiques argument that he doesn’t take any risks against dangerous opponents afraid he’ll lose his unbeaten record. At the same time, there aren’t many opponents for Floyd to make half the money he can make by fighting Canelo. However, just as Leonard beat a much stronger fighter on Hagler, Floyd has the ability to do the same against Canelo.

This is also, IMO, the perfect time for Floyd to fight Canelo, as Canelo lack the experience to deal with an experience boxer as Floyd. Floyd will not doubt will enter the ring in exceptional shape, as he does for most of his fights. On the other hand, Canelo may still have issues trying to maintain the weight and may end up over-training.

Either way, though due to promotional abilities by promoters, networks and Floyd this fight would be made to be the greatest match of all time in boxing history, I don’t believe Canelo is at the same level of Floyd. Canelo’s fights have been carefully orchestrated to make him appear bigger than life. Floyd will make him look like another ordinary boxer. Floyd by unanimous decision and perhaps Floyd-Pac in May 2014.

Posted May 31, 2013 7:33 am 


Hats off for Mayweather going for arguably a proper challange for a long time.

But we already know Floyd’s team ain’t stupid and they’ve well analized the tactical situation. They know despite the weight advantage Canelo has many flaws, he hasn’t optimized his pacing to come strong in the second part of the fight and he’s still green on the top stage despite the number of fights in his record.

I expect Canelo to come strong leading in the beginning and a well planned pin-point KO or TKO is his only chance in rd 1-5, but May’s careful, mighty skillfully defensive and his pacing is just right and well optimized over long experience (it’s something you can’t buy!) and I expect him to turn tides and even school the fading Canelo in the second part of the fight and come over him with SD or even UD, maybe even score a TKO in the late. May’s footwork will be the deciding factor how wide UD he’ll score.

Yeah it’s boxing allright, so anything can happen, but for the experienced master of art, those 10-20 extra pounds on the slower opponent will only work to his adavantage in the game of boxing.

Posted May 31, 2013 7:29 am 


What mistake ? He going to make 35+ million dollars win or lose I wish I made those kind of mistakes !

Posted May 31, 2013 7:29 am 


No. There should NEVER be ‘rehydration clauses’ in any fight. They shouldn’t be allowed, they significantly increase the likelihood of brain damage.

Posted May 31, 2013 7:26 am 

Public Enemy

I told you guys all the talk would be about the 2lb idiotic catch weight.. should’ve been at 154lbs no catch weight with a 160lb rehydration weight gain clause so Canelo cannot balloon up to 172+lbs…

Posted May 31, 2013 7:25 am 


eh theres a catch weight of 152 pounds u idiot

Posted May 31, 2013 7:13 am 

Flomo Overdrive

How is 152 NOT a catchweight you moron?

Posted May 31, 2013 7:08 am 


Is not a catch weight still 152pounds?

Posted May 31, 2013 7:05 am 


Agree, only worrying point is Canelo’s power…

Posted May 31, 2013 7:04 am 

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