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It’s Me, Ernie

Bravo, and yes Tark is an absolute idiot…

Posted June 1, 2013 6:45 pm 


MK

One thing I dislike also, apart from racism, is having to praise oneself, when no one else want to.

Sredmond and you TARK, are like little kids, in this regard. Anyone who knows a little bit about boxing know that Froch vs Kessler could end either way, and almost did. We didn.t know what kind of condition Kessler was showing up in.

The Kessler that danced around Andrade, and gave Calzaghe one hell of a fight, with an injury, would school, any type of Froch version, but I agree with the fact that Kessler lost, because he is over the hill.

Now you could learn from that TARK. Kessler lost, so what, he at least travelled.

I like the Mayweather post jail, since he wants to prove his legacy against a dangerous fighter. I liked Mike Tyson pre jail, for his electric power.

I just don,t get your racism. This is 2013.

Posted June 1, 2013 4:51 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Edit>Both

Posted May 31, 2013 8:23 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Sorry Adrian.. I missed your post first time round. Yes I agree with bot you and me about that bro.

Posted May 31, 2013 8:23 pm 


TARK

MK… I told you several times Froch would out-box Kessler… You kept going with Kessler… As far as racism is concerned, you don’t have one good thing to say about Ward. You won’t give Ward an ounce of credit for winning every round and brutalizing Kessler when he had only 20 pro fights, and Kessler had over 40 — all except for Calzaghe against 2nd raters of course … I know you’ll point to Beyer, Andrade, and Mundine.. None of the 3 could box a stitch, or had a chance against anyone truly world class, such as Ward, Dirrell, Rodriquez, Froch, or even kids like Groves or Cleverly — who were kind enough to spar for Kessler thinking they could teach the Dane some boxing skills so he could beat Froch.

Boy were they mistaken. They must have been discouraged about Kessler’s lack of progress about the 5th week of sparring. “Boy this pug is thick.”

Posted May 31, 2013 8:05 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Edit> And although they can grow rather large and have powerful sharp beaks

Posted May 31, 2013 5:47 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

MK.. It would be nice to come on here and not have to deal with all this crap for sure. Then one would have more time to spend discussing the Sweet Science and of course to promoting beaver awareness, the later of which is something I feel very passionate about and something that I also think is highly imperative.

Posted May 31, 2013 5:45 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Then why do you need to keep bringing up racism? Let it go and move on…

Posted May 31, 2013 1:46 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Great analogy, better than Teddy and Saul…

Posted May 31, 2013 11:38 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

*

Posted May 30, 2013 11:06 pm 


It’e Me, Ernie

I wonder what the odds would be between a badger and a vulture at a catch-weight?

Posted May 30, 2013 10:59 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Speaking of vultures. Grazie signore! That’s given me an idea. ESB needs some educating on these magnificent yet sadly maligned creatures.

Posted May 30, 2013 10:04 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

ROFL. I like the cut of your Jib Mongrel.

Your previous offering a little further down the page caught my eye too. Some real pearlers in there as well. lol

You are indeed correct sir. SRED-MONGED is nothing but carrion now. I shall make my exit now and leave the vultures to enjoy their meal undisturbed.

There is plenty of succulent flesh on his beau Balloon Face’s aka SOG body to rasp on though. lol

Posted May 30, 2013 9:59 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Damn Gonzo, that wasn’t even directed at me and my ass hurts…

Posted May 30, 2013 4:20 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Oh, and by the way.. Make sure you promote beaver awareness when and whenever you can

And remember you take your own life into your hands when you enter into beaver domain.

Posted May 30, 2013 3:42 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Excuse the typos.. My inspiration comes from above. The god’s use my body as a vessel to spread their genius down here for us mere mortals. lol

Posted May 30, 2013 3:39 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

LMAO @ SREDMOND-You didn’t lay it out for anyone yesterday, the day before or ever fool.

The bath salts are not becoming to you…

Posted May 30, 2013 1:31 pm 


Adrian

Sredmond “man please people are waiting for this era to be OVER ” to bad as long as the klitchkos are around you and all their haters are Traped in their “ERA” hahahahahahagaha

Posted May 30, 2013 12:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, Wlad got crushed 3x in his prime and thats a blight on his record that cannot be erased… Wlad got 2 unavenged beatings whereas Lewis cleaned up his mishaps..

Posted May 30, 2013 7:25 am 


SREDMOND

Gonzo (Repton Born) I have you minding your manners and rehabbing your image discussing “Beavers” and other such foolishness on one of the FMJ threads… Again the false bravado has been stripped from you…And I KNOW your rhetoric is about to be toned down… I’m in your mind and I’ll be there for quite awhile..The phony image makeover does NOT fool me…

Posted May 30, 2013 7:23 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, the Haye and Adamek bouts made peanuts compared to what we call a “Superfight” to even mention Adamek is a JOKE there was NOT even the slightest perception of risk… That fight was a mismatch and completely forgotten… We look to the WW’s for BIG fights these HWs are a source of boredom… Adamek a Superfight??
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted May 30, 2013 7:19 am 


TARK

Lewis was blasted out by one shot TWICE… It happens. With Lewis it happened at his peak.

Posted May 30, 2013 1:56 am 


TARK

Wladimir-Haye was one of the highest grossing fights of all time and highest grossing one ever staged in Europe… Vitali-Adamek was the 2nd highest grossing fight ever staged in Europe. Vitali sold out the Staples Center twice. Once on 2-weeks notice. If Lewis didn’t renege on a rematch with Vitali they would have pulled the biggest PPV of all time.

Posted May 30, 2013 1:55 am 


SREDMOND

Sanders was picked to PAD Wlads record instead he humiliated him… !! Tua was a more consistent performer who was NOT knocked out 4 times… Sanders is a nobody a C level fighter why are we discussing him?? Because for one night he beat Wlads ass and you guys have tried to cleanup the mess for 8 years LMAO!

Posted May 30, 2013 1:45 am 


SREDMOND

HAHAHAHA the “Lewis Era Weak” man please people are waiting for this era to be OVER there has NOT been a single truly BIG fight! The best it produced was Wlad and Haye, need I say more?? And when Tark says “the Lewis era” he means ONE fighter NOT 2 playing WWF and NOT facing eachother… This is easily the most uninspired era of HW boxing during my lifetime… The late Manny Steward discussed how lackluster it was… We have been treated to garbage like Wach, Pianeta, Mormeck and Thompson II…And of course the “Mighty Charr” we have Wlad about to face his first solid opponent in awhile… A ducker who struggles with Cruisers…Lewis cleaned house and Vitalis face was the cherry on top!

Posted May 30, 2013 1:42 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

God bless David Tua…

Posted May 30, 2013 1:20 am 


TARK

Sure he got a shot in the weak Lewis era.

Posted May 30, 2013 12:11 am 


TARK

Sredmond…. Getting knocked down and almost out to a 3 years older Monte Barrett didn’t do anything for my estimation of David Tua.. Tua is younger than Vitali but couldn’t make it during the entire Klitschko era. He couldn’t get past any contenders for a title shot.. Sanders is a lot older than Tua and managed to get a fight with both Klitschkos — Tua couldn’t even beat David Haye’s cherry-picked opponent, for Haye to make a statement at heavyweight so he could get a Wladimir fight.

Posted May 30, 2013 12:09 am 


Mongrel Power

Ward is suffering the Klitschko Syndrome.

His dominance has led to one sided fights and a shrinking pool of viable opponents.

That doesn`t equate to him getting off the charge of being boring, you can be dominant and boring like Ward, or you can be dominant and exciting like Jones Jnr.

Neutralising someone is a skill, but there is a reason it is called neutralising, and neutral is not exciting.

Wards personality might go some way to making up for this, if only he had one, but he sounds like he swallowed a self help book, presumably because he was too cross eyed to read it.

He`s incredibly skilled, he is going to have a record that will make him a first ballot HOF’er, but most of his knockouts are going to be fans falling asleep while he is on TV

Posted May 29, 2013 11:46 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, Lewis fought Tua in a respectful manner because Tuas
Power was well known and well respected…

Posted May 29, 2013 10:58 pm 


SREDMOND

Tua’s WELL beyond Sanders proved FAR more consistent against top competition… Had Tua and Sanders fought… Corrie would have gotten slugged with that left hand
and out like a light… By the way Floyd’s saying he’s going in on Canelo at the MGM grand.. When he massacres this kid we will find out who the fight fans are and who the excuse makers are…

Posted May 29, 2013 10:56 pm 


TARK

So far on this tread Sredmond is about 0-53.

Posted May 29, 2013 10:28 pm 


stevo

Bomb Squad! Gonzo is one funny dude. Rofl. REDMOND got wrecked! Eastside to the Westside.

Posted May 29, 2013 10:23 pm 


TARK

A guy with 20 wins in 38 fights still has a winning record.. He’s matched mostly with other average fighters and beats some of them. He’s no bum.. He’s your average pug that the game produces.. He’s got a day job because he’s not supporting his family as a boxer, but he still enjoys the thrill of victory when he scores a upset, or any old win at all.. A bum is a guy without any job and a tin cup, or that guy with a 2-28 record who generally gives up by the 4th round.

Posted May 29, 2013 10:19 pm 


BEARS

Different styles. I just stated a fact. One was a champ the other was not. I typically think tua was better but imagine if they fought

Posted May 29, 2013 10:18 pm 


TARK

Tua lacked ambition like Sanders… He knocked out Rahman, Oquendo, Ruiz, Moorer, but was 20 pounds overweight when he fought Lewis in the most important fight of his life. He basically stunk the joint out in that fight.

Nonetheless he was an A level heavyweight.

Posted May 29, 2013 10:09 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, a guy with a 20-18 record is a BUM not mediocre and your level of comp tells a story… Sanders was a C level fighter to me nothing special… Had he not upset Wlad we would have never known he got murdered..

Posted May 29, 2013 10:08 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, my narrative on you is COMPLETE, again I have reposted your posts and given
My position on them… You seem to think you can dig yourself out of this or somehow get me on the same page as you… Not possible!! You can deny and deny and post and post but the evidence has been presented and now you have to live with the manner in which have defamed yourself…This is adult life and you have to accept the consequences of your statements calling Ward, Broner and Mayweather “Babboons” discussing “Killing Children I don’t have” and discussing your “Anti-American Sentiments” have created a trifecta of destruction…. I don’t have to respond with 35 pages just keep POUNDING THE FACTS :) :) :)

Posted May 29, 2013 10:06 pm 


TARK

Sremond… I’ve heard of grade inflation, but you’re doing the opposite.

C level is mediocre… A guy with a 20-18 record is a C level fighter. A guy with a 7-23 record is D level guy. At least he can beat somebody now and again. A guy with a 2-28 record is an F. He shouldn’t be doing this.

A heavyweight like Sanders, who had a 39-2 record when he fought Wladimir, winning his World Heavyweight Championship, was an A level fighter and nothing less. Far less than 1% of fighters ever win a world title even with the proliferation of titles. C level fighters are never even heard from unless some top fighter cherry picks them for an easy win.

B level heavyweights are guys like Derric Rossy or Bowie Tupou. You’ve heard of them. They’ve fought some top names and have a lot of wins. But they’ll never get over the hump and get a title shot in a million years.

Posted May 29, 2013 10:04 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Tua was a damn fine dangerous SOB too. NO need to put one down to prop up the other.

I’m out

Posted May 29, 2013 9:43 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Go ask Michael Sprott what he thought of Sanders. He’s fought or sparred against literally all the top heavyweights over the last 15 or so years and he holds Corrie in the highest of regards even though he only shared a ring with him for a minute or so and was on the receiving end of a controversial stoppage loss.

”Corrie Sanders is EASILY the hardest puncher I ever fought”

There’s a video on Youtube where Sprott waxes lyrical about Corrie

Bedtime now.

Posted May 29, 2013 9:41 pm 


AD

People shift Sanders ability up and down to suit a particular argument.

Sanders posed a significant danger to any heavyweight given that he was a southpaw, had fast hands for a guy his size, and carried some very respectable power.

He wasn`t however a great boxer in the technical sense, and I don`t buy the whole “He would have been great if only he dedicated himself…” type arguments.

When you give a professional athlete several months to prepare for a single specific event, you have eliminated their opportunity to come up with those kind of excuses.

It isn`t necessary to pump Sanders up to defend Wlad, just as it isnt necessary to pump Rahman up to defend Lewis.

Good fighters can make bad decisions and get taken out by punchers.
Good fighters also learn, and adapt.

Tua for me is superior to Sanders. Watch what happened when each fought Rahman.

Posted May 29, 2013 9:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, you are showing how badly you have been
Dominated… Your degree of protest is out of proportion.. Face it you are both a Bigot and a guy who admitted that he supports children being harmed because he does NOT like a certain poster… You are trying WAYYYYY to hard to gain a consensus which shows emotional weakness… Give it up people saw your dirty work and opinions have been formed!! Watching you squirm is VERY funny!!

Posted May 29, 2013 9:31 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Ernie.. More like

Gonzo 1000

SRED 0

LOL

Posted May 29, 2013 9:25 pm 


SREDMOND

Tua was 10x the fighter Sanders was he knocked out multiple World Class fighters and never got stopped, Sanders is just a guy who upset Wlad… He was a Champ for 15 minutes…Anyone who knows that Tua who warred with Ibeabuchi, stopped Moore and Maskaev was no joke…

Posted May 29, 2013 9:24 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Gonzo 1

Sredass 0

Tark still a butthole sniffer…

Posted May 29, 2013 9:19 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, I see you even changed your name as part of your image makeover!! Kinda like AIG and the Enrons of the World… Back to old “DragonBorn” Silly MAN!

Posted May 29, 2013 9:19 pm 


BEARS

Sanders was a heavyweight champ. Many like tua were not

Posted May 29, 2013 9:18 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, seriously you need to give it up I can’t imagine anyone sane reading a post that LONG.. My thesis is CLEAR on you and I presented your OWN posts to back it up… Bears, Jesus and whomever can support your bluster but I am VERY comfortable with laying your dirty laundry out for all to see… Accept the fact that your behavior is going to change around here or your gonna catch hell from me..You might sell some dummies about you being compassionate about Sanders but I see you as a guy who admits to “joking about children being killed” You are who you are and the public relations campaign is corny!

Posted May 29, 2013 9:15 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, we cannot judge Sanders by a win over Rahman he did NOT get nor give Wlad points for “a stance he did not have” reality is guys have to live and die with their losses…And the sum total if their accomplishments or lack thereof..!

Posted May 29, 2013 9:06 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, “decent” translates into “C level” to me so what’s the problem
Tark??? You got VERY vocal about it so what’s the issue? That’s my take on Sanders he capped Wlad once and thus ends the story..

Posted May 29, 2013 9:00 pm 


Advice

Dear mr froch,
Stop undoing all the good work you do in the ring by making silly comments out of it afterwards such as only you and Lennox are at the same level in terms of British fighters. It’s understandable to see why you are not as popular as you could have been. Be more respectful and people will have more respect for you.

Posted May 29, 2013 8:59 pm 


B Red

Corrie was the ultimate underachiever, he could have been great. I always enjoyed his fights Rip

Posted May 29, 2013 8:50 pm 


BEARS

Tarks a pretty good poster too. Objective strait shooters

Posted May 29, 2013 8:45 pm 


TARK

Sredmond…, Try not to put words in my mouth.. I never said Sanders was “something special.” … Corrie was a decent Heavyweight at the time he met Wladimir. Not a good boxer, but a tough, strong attacker who had Rahman on the way out, and Rahman was about to gas out when the stoppage occurred.. Sanders was big, tall, strong, fast, and he could punch.. He had a tricky southpaw style — and his winging lefts took a peculiar arch that went right into Wladimir’s “blind spot” in his defense. That’s when Wladimir still had a flawed stance and defense that Steward took several years to rework. Chris Byrd was another southpaw who was a couple of inches shorter than Sanders and had no punching power.. Funny thing is, Byrd’s lefts didn’t bother Wladimir at all.. So Wladimir’s stance and execution defects only affected him vs certain styles and physical types.. WK needed somebody like Emmanuel Steward to sort the problems out, and he went right after Manny.. Just like Khan went after Virgil Hunter, but we haven’t seen anything positive come out of that alliance yet.

Posted May 29, 2013 8:34 pm 


BEARS

Yes indded I confer. Gonzo p4p #1 east side poster. East side rank #1. Hs now KNOCKED OUT COLD SREDMOND!!!!! With one punch. And corrie sanders looks down from heaven with a smile and says “good on ya m8″. Cornelius sanders man. Wht an awesome guy. I miss his mustache too!

Posted May 29, 2013 8:13 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

#1 lol

Posted May 29, 2013 7:45 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

A post of mine from one of the Emanuel Steward obituary threads

Gonzo the Dragonborn

edit> such a shame he’s gone

Posted October 25, 2012 1:22 pm

Gonzo the Dragonborn

This is just absolutely awful news. I heard the rumours yesterday but then read a statement by his sister saying that he was still alive. There’s no one in boxing I enjoyed listening to be interviewed more than him. Such a shame his gone. RIP you will be missed by many . :(

Posted October 25, 2012 1:21 pm

I will post the link in the next post (although it will take a while to appear)

Posted May 29, 2013 7:36 pm 


B Red

Damn you be jockin the Klits

Posted May 29, 2013 7:01 pm 


BEARS

“As dumb as dung-for-brains” bahahahahahahahaha awesome quote. I remember when adamek said thre was a punch by vitaly that zapped him of his strength. Maybe vitaly does have deceptively more stopping power than wlad. It would deceptive cause on appearences wlads str8 right looks the worst of all time. Just brutal. Hbo did the slow motion of wlad.

Posted May 29, 2013 6:57 pm 


balloon knot

This thread is lol.

Posted May 29, 2013 6:43 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Sredass is just pissed because my sister is hung better than he is…

Posted May 29, 2013 6:36 pm 


lefhook

B red.. I’m the same m8, just back from the golf n would loved to have punched someone on a few holes. I was sheeeeet. lol

Posted May 29, 2013 6:17 pm 


balloon knot

Honk Honk!

Posted May 29, 2013 6:15 pm 


balloon knot

Are you sure?

Posted May 29, 2013 6:14 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, the odds of me heeding your requests are 0 to none if I feel like reaching into the toilet and pulling your name I will…This is NOT something you can control anymore than your father could control the errant load that made you a burden to this planet..

Posted May 29, 2013 6:09 pm 


SREDMOND

Ernie, that retort was uninspired, I know your wife’s a woman as does the gynecologist scraping my DNA out of her cervix… Her fidelity is the issue NOT her gender.. Jesus I praised the wench earlier, what more do you want? Smell my finger?

Posted May 29, 2013 6:05 pm 


SREDMOND

Corrie Sanders record was compiled against nondescript fighters in South Africa, he got stopped by Rahman and and lost to Tubbs.. He was stopped 4x in his career and his LONE moment of glory was upsetting the then VERY upsettable Wlad Klits who was dropped around 8 times over that span with another TKO… Part of being an A level fighter is having the mentality.. Liking Golf more than boxing is not an excuse it’s a symptom to me.. Not sure what Sanders handicap was but as a boxer I saw a guy with suspect conditioning… If you think he was something special Tark so be it… But you’re also the same nutcase rating Canelo over Oscar De La Hoya as a fighter when Canelos only win worth a damn is Trout, who’s a light hitter and holds a win over Cotto coming off a loss… Your logic is often askew !

Posted May 29, 2013 6:01 pm 


balloon knot

WTF am I?

Posted May 29, 2013 6:00 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Sorry SREDASS, You must have me confused with another poster, I’m married to a female. I understand you like it balls deep in your balloon knot, doesn’t that hurt?…

Posted May 29, 2013 5:52 pm 


B Red

Corries Sanders was not a C level fighter, He had the potential to be an A level fighter if he took boxing more seriously and trained hard. He had a better passion for golf

Posted May 29, 2013 5:48 pm 


BEARS

Tark-lol nice one

Posted May 29, 2013 5:48 pm 


BEARS

Sredmond if u can’t answer were u went to school and what degree u have don’t direct posts at me. I’m not telling your savage ass anything. Your not in control of anything not even your life. Klitschkos own u tool. Nuff said

Posted May 29, 2013 5:47 pm 


TARK

Sredmond sez…. “Corrie Sanders was a C level fighter.”

OK… Let me get this straight… Sanders was 6’4″ X 225, with tremendous speed, power, and toughness, and a ring record of 39-2. Sanders just whipped the man Emmanuel Steward previously called “The best heavyweight to come along in many years.” That man being World Heavyweight Champion Wladimir Klitschko who was 41-1 comiing into the fight, and Sanders beat him in Germany by smashing him out in 2 rounds.

OK… On a bell curve that should be about a C level fighter … For a guy as dumb as dung-for-brains Sredmond.

Posted May 29, 2013 5:29 pm 


Cliff Richard

Honk Honk!

Posted May 29, 2013 5:28 pm 


Cliff Richard

Hi!

Posted May 29, 2013 5:25 pm 


B Red

@ears, im beggining to think that your a bigot with your subliminal racial insults.

Posted May 29, 2013 4:47 pm 


SREDMOND

BRed, he is TOTALLY ashamed and anyone who knows this nut can see his WHOLE demeanor changed… Even the support of dedicated BUMS like Bears and Ernie has not healed his wounds.. He has cried to “the mods” where’s the hard ass that was gonna kill me and Floyd last years?? Exposed !

Posted May 29, 2013 4:45 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, your right he was TRASH last weak and he’s just sewar trash this weak… A downgrade but TRASH nonetheless… Good point, Thanks Bears!!

Posted May 29, 2013 4:37 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

SREDDER, Seems like you speak with a lisp. You said you like to dictate. Tell us how Bear’s dictate. Does it tate good in your mouf?

Posted May 29, 2013 4:35 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonz, Gonz, Gonz!!!! You provided a treasure trove of ammunition for me to exploit and I appreciate you going nuts on Michael Collins thread… Crying to Bears has NOT and Cannot save you… Man you used to REALLY try and play tough guy now you’re cowering, begging and bargaining… How much easier would it have been for you to know your place? Now you are left with LAME rebuttals, phony bluster and having to change your own persona because you were forced to admit that you “threatened to kill children or wish death upon” children I don’t have….Your EASILY the most twisted poster in ESB with your sycophant and supporter Bears running a CLOSE 2nd… Your day is RUINED, you want to go back in time BUT you can’t… You are gonna have to live this nightmare in my dungeon, tied up, dehydrated and gagged…

Posted May 29, 2013 4:34 pm 


matthews

They are already talking about a Kessler trilogy. Fight at your level Froch. Second place is yours and yours alone. Unless Ward moves up.

Posted May 29, 2013 4:31 pm 


BEARS

how’s welfare going for you and your family sredmond? And your obama phone from which you post is it nice. Wats the cash value of your families food stamps these days? Lol

Posted May 29, 2013 4:24 pm 


BEARS

Gonzos reputation is the dame as it was a week ago. Lol. You have no effect on gonzos re. Your a delusional nobody redmond. Lol. Don’t flatter yourself.

Posted May 29, 2013 4:23 pm 


SREDMOND

Jesus Gonzo are you still whining about your bogus “challenge” the only Challeng you have is salvaging your shattered reputation.. The charges against you have STUCK!!! Of course you want me banned I’m beating the HELL OUT of you and the guy you’re pounding from the rear ( Bears) its hilarious how you think you can go from acknowleded PROMOTER if Violence against Children to a sympathetic figure… You would have a better shot at riding a paper airplane to the moon… If you’re so comfortable in your innocence why the continued bantering and protest??? It’s because I have shamed, mocked and Derided you!!! I don’t want you banned, I want you RIGHT here so I can pounce when you get out of line… Even on IPhone Daddy is watching!!!

Posted May 29, 2013 4:15 pm 


BEARS

U don’t reword what people say to fit your attack. Its defamation and its the only enemy to free speech. When u wanna say somebody said something and comment on it you do what honorable posters do and repost their comment then you comment. Dig? Shmuck redmond

Posted May 29, 2013 3:51 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Bears.. No it should not be allowed or tolerated and he has done it repeatedly to me for days and everyone else in this thread who has pulled him up about his lies.

Posted May 29, 2013 3:48 pm 


BEARS

U should be banned redmond. I believe in freedom of speech but defamation in terms of repeatedly saying that people are saying things they never said and then commenting on that. No honorable red blooded east side poster should think that should be allowed

Posted May 29, 2013 3:40 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, you do LOOK stupid that’s why you keep coming back and trying to explain yourself it’s futile!!! Write a 100000 word post and the fact remains I Broke your spirt and sent you to the “Mods” out of desperation !!!

Posted May 29, 2013 3:31 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

You could’ve made me look so stupid had there been a grain of truth to your lies.. all you had to do was find one post of mine where I had said those things. But you couldn’t and steadfastly refused to do so because you knew you were lying through your teeth all along. Now who looks stupid, huh?

Posted May 29, 2013 3:25 pm 


SREDMOND

MK, again I didn’t hear you I saw that Froch and Kessler are 1 and 1 with Froch winning the last and Ward of course defeating them BOTH… My ears and eyes are NOT tuned in to a frequency that sells excuses…. Sorry!

Posted May 29, 2013 3:04 pm 


SREDMOND

HaHaHa I have reduced Gonzo to begging “The ESB Mods” for help!!! This has to be my finest hour destroying a creep on here…Gonzo “The Mods” can see URL’s they KNOW WHO AND WHERE the posts come from.. You probably just got yourself BANNED…. Damn you guys remember when this kid SWORE he was soooo tough, saying who he would hurt in real life, fighters and posters alike NOW he is crying after I showed up to his jail cell meaning business… What a PUNK and COWARD you could have just said “NO MAS” I encourage the “Mods” to investigate who made what comments and then do whatever… Everyone knows Gonzos style he admitted he wished Death upon children I don’t have… He just never thought I’d make those statements HAUNT him…. BOOM you’re done

Posted May 29, 2013 3:02 pm 


MK

Sredmond: I am still on a mission to find a life partner for you, along with a day job, and some anti psychotic pills clearly.

Sredmond have you seen the amount of comments, you have created, just on this thread? Scaring.

The funny thing is that you are sometimes right, about fights, Froch beat Kessler, thats ok, although, Froch admitted to Kessler that he was close to being KOed in the 11th, Kessler said that on danish television., Ward may beat Froch in England, but they have to fight to decide that one.

So we still need to find you a day job, by the way Sredmond, is Ward still working with doping expert, Victor Conte (BALCO) like he did up to the Kessler cheating, in Oakland?

Well lets find Sredmond a job and a wife first, right …

Posted May 29, 2013 2:56 pm 


BEARS

this crackpot thinks there are many “silent posters” reading this. He thinks he’s speaking to an audience!……………..bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha DELUSIONS!!!!

Posted May 29, 2013 2:55 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, you have NOT addressed the
Many posts of yours I showered you with so what’s the point? I have exposed your thoughts and put them in the sun again… Do you think I need your respect? We are adversaries, there is no quarter given and no one asked.. Tell Bears to see your rear up quickly in order to dull the pain… Bears is your foot soldier?? This is gonna be the easiest War in history!

Posted May 29, 2013 2:46 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, like I told Bears I am in CONTROL here let’s be clear!! You are an admitted wanna be child killer who thinks such insanity and such threats are funny… I would NEVER let a bum
Like that dictate to me, I’m making all the rules it’s up to YOU to find a way out of the HOLE you have dug for yourself… Even in prison those who committ or conspire to committ harm to children are the LOWEST life form… You are in that category, don’t let Bears unconditional support fool you.. PLENTY of posters have seen your sick writings today and silent or not they know you’re scum… You are in no position to challenge or demand anything either back off, attack or defend… I was kind enough to give you 3 options LMAO!

Posted May 29, 2013 2:41 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Thanks Bears..

Posted May 29, 2013 2:37 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, the MORE you comeback posting after your admissions the MORE you
Magnify your defeats… There is ANOTHER ROUND OF abuse coming… You keep saying “your done” but your badly bruised Ego cannot stomach the defeats, which will ONLY lead to more… Are you gonna “double dare” me again???? HAHAHAHA!!

Posted May 29, 2013 2:36 pm 


BEARS

Just submit a formal complaint in detail. I bet we if we all do it something would get done

Posted May 29, 2013 2:34 pm 


BEARS

Gonzo you can contact the mods. Just go to where it says “contact us” on the site

Posted May 29, 2013 2:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Are you done Bears? Did you REALLY think that a weak tactic like “baiting” me was going to get me to share any information I didn’t want to?? C’mon Bears you should know I’m too sophisticated for that… After all that cajoling and begging you ended up losing AGAIN… You are a monument to how much humiliation a person can keep taking!!

Posted May 29, 2013 2:28 pm 


BEARS

So the s in sredmond stands for sodomy activist redmond. Ok

Posted May 29, 2013 2:26 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, I dictate, I don’t get dictated to your interest in my background is flattering but alas your opinion means nothing… You’re a stranger in the Internet I would not tell you my Social Security number either… So think what you will :)

Posted May 29, 2013 2:13 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, Bears is actually entertaining me more now step your game up.. But I do commend you for converting him into your jailhouse lawyer and getting him to stand against the interests of his own CHILD…Bears has cosigned with YOU that Child murder is a laughing matter you must REALLY be hitting Bears G Spot for him to sell out his own kid of minimum decency… I don’t even have kids and I’m stunned he’s OK with this and asking me what he should do and feel..

Posted May 29, 2013 2:11 pm 


BEARS

Answer the question about schools and degrees redmond. Were not pivoting from it with me answering more questions about my question. Or we will just mark it down another sredmond fabrication.

Posted May 29, 2013 2:08 pm 


SREDMOND

Lewis got rich in the US not the UK that’s why he bailed on you guys… Calzaghe, Hatton and Khan had their biggest Paydays here…We see how NOT being popular in the US has made the Klits forgotten entities… Vitalis most notable bout was in California… Man please!

Posted May 29, 2013 2:07 pm 


BEARS

Mike tyson said he would cannablize lenoxs children. You recommended and recommend the same thing for tyson as u do gonzo right? Is there some reason your not answering something like inconsistencies and double standards? Oh yes your very expierenced in that as well as sodomy activism

Posted May 29, 2013 2:07 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, makeup your mind, you just said that you don’t believe that I went to school and now you are asking me where I graduated and what my field of study was??? Do you think I’m educated or NOT make a choice and we an go from there..!

Posted May 29, 2013 2:05 pm 


stuck in a moment

Junior….soccer is more popular in the states then boxing. Soccer is on all the time on espn. All different leagues. Fighters like Dawson and Ward are nobody’s here. Dawson can’t even sell out his home town. America likes bad boys. If ward was euro he would be as big as Lewis was. But he he is a nobody.

Posted May 29, 2013 2:04 pm 


BEARS

You claim you have gone to school and have a degree. If you can’t answer you must not have. Just another sredmond fabrication. Don’t worry were use to it. So all those things you said gonzo should go through you must feel mike tyson should go through right?

Posted May 29, 2013 2:03 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, what’s your opinion? You have kids and thus greater insight into the love a parent should have for a child?? I have expressed my views on the matter yet as a parent you think Gonzos comments are funny about killing kids… In fact you are defending him which is shameful because you have a daughter…Gonzo aimed that comment at me and I have responded clearly you find that acceptable which does NOT surprise me…

Posted May 29, 2013 2:02 pm 


BEARS

sredmond- I wish I could say I support someone waxing you sredmond but that would be unethical to me. However, I do wish I could punch u with a strait right half of the fist on your nose half on your front denture teeth. Of course I would help you up afterwards and ask you what you learned. So where did you attend school what degree did you aquire?

Posted May 29, 2013 2:02 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, if you don’t think I went to school or have a degree then why did you ask 3 times LMAO???,,

Posted May 29, 2013 1:58 pm 


BEARS

Sredmond- so mike tyson should be locked up for remarks about cannabolising lennox’s children?

Posted May 29, 2013 1:58 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, you’re a SELF ADMITTED wanna be CHILD KILLER that’s someone who needs to be locked up or at least heavily counseled about what’s appropriate to joke about.. You still defend your statements instead of saying “hey I went too far” but again this is all OK in your deranged mind… Bears would support a child killer or pedophile as long as the guy like Bears posts.. You two are a match made in HELL…

Posted May 29, 2013 1:56 pm 


BEARS

Your a weirdo sredmond. I don’t think you went to school. The brooklyn chapter nation of islam meetings re not considered attending school. Why would u go to such a whiteman institution and establishment seeking higher education anyway? Isn’t there something wrong with the whitemans history?

Posted May 29, 2013 1:56 pm 


B Red

Gonzo, your a sick twat,joking about killing children

Posted May 29, 2013 1:54 pm 


BEARS

What’s your degree in what school did you attend? Or is that another sredmond fabrication?

Posted May 29, 2013 1:53 pm 


SREDMOND

Sorry Gonz, I didnt kill Sanders but YOU DID PROPOSE KILLING CHILDREN IF I had them
Which is super sick… I respect you trying to deflect but your “it was a joke” defense has been overused and WE know you really do wish death on Children because a stranger disagrees with you about boxing…. VERY SICK GONZO!!

Posted May 29, 2013 1:53 pm 


SREDMOND

Why Bears do you want to enroll? You will NEVER be as smart as
Me so if your hoping following in my footsteps is gonna solve the glaring gap in intellect between us your mistaken… I’ll always be on top fool!

Posted May 29, 2013 1:48 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, who cares about Corrie Sanders he was a nobody beyond capping Wlad ??? Being dead does not change that… There are thousands of unimportant dead boxers… You are more worried about Sanders than a guy who thinks killing children is funny and YOU have a child…Weird priorities Bears!

Posted May 29, 2013 1:45 pm 


BEARS

sredmond-what’s your degree in where did you go to school?

Posted May 29, 2013 1:45 pm 


BEARS

Sredmond- what’s your degree in, where did you go to school?

Posted May 29, 2013 1:44 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, joking about killing kids is NEVER joking!! When are you gonna learn that? I produced a ton of your handy work and you are still crippled with embarrassment I set the terms not you… You’re the “Beta Male” in this dynamic… Again I’m very pleased with the results of this assault and I have more for later if you wanna keep trying me?? Lemme know Son. :)

Posted May 29, 2013 1:42 pm 


BEARS

Yeah you better back off corrie sanders was a bum and start waffling and making excuses.

Posted May 29, 2013 1:42 pm 


SREDMOND

Corrie Sanders was not a “bum” he was a C level fighter who was overhyped cause he beat Klitschko.. Ross Purrity was a BUM and Sanders death does NOT HAVE anything to do with killing Kids… Do you think the two correlate?? That’s pretty weird but NOT surprising from Yiu Gonzo of Repton….!

Posted May 29, 2013 1:38 pm 


BEARS

Bred- I have a sense of humour. Are those things literally funny? I think the answer to your question is obvious………do you think mike tyson should’ve been investigated when he said he would eat lennox’s children? Or do you take things in context like sredmond is unable to do? What simpleton redmond is and at 50 something u would think he would be smarter. You have to admit these posts and what concern themselves with in a way show their intelligence. As sredmond shows he’s not very bright. And the cancerous walnut line from gonzo another GEM.

Posted May 29, 2013 1:29 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, there are certain things that are BASIC boundaries you don’t cross… Kids are one of them one would think that as a parent you would draw the line somewhere… But in an effort to keep Gonzo’s shaft on your chin you would throw your own daughter under the Bus… Shameful…

Posted May 29, 2013 1:27 pm 


SREDMOND

Of course he thinks its funny despite having a child of his own Bears is a FOLLOWER first and foremost… He would PIMP his own mother out to the streets if it would gain him favor with other men… I don’t even have or want kids and I find Gonzo’s discussion of Child killing repugnant…Obviously Bears is a TERRIBLE father…

Posted May 29, 2013 1:25 pm 


BEARS

*Sredmond- all the sudden you claim to care about children and in the next line use children to attack me and others? Whoa that’s the fastest FLIP FLOPPING I ever seen on east side boxing. What do you and children have to do with anything sredmond? Is this part of your sodomy activism again? Sick! That ain’t right*

Posted May 29, 2013 1:23 pm 


BEARS

Sredmond- all the sudden you claim to care about children and in the next line use children to attack me and others? Whoa that’s the fastest FLIP FLOPPING I ever seen on east side boxing. What do you and children have to do with anything sredmond? Is this part of your sodomy activism again? Eewwwwwwww that ain’t right.

Posted May 29, 2013 1:19 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, c’mon at least be funny and for GOD sakes STOP JOCKING another man this is your pattern forever! latching on to ANOTHER weakling who is just a little LESS weak than you in hopes of safety and a warm bed… I am NOT surprised you are OK with a guy who feels discussion of “killing children” is OK on the message board… We KNOW that you are NOT part of your daughters like and cannot meet your financial responsibilities consequently you place the same value on children that this deviant Gonzo does… Who I have RUNNING SCARED like a like a Gazelle with a bad leg surrounded by 4 Lions in their prime!

Posted May 29, 2013 1:18 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, YES or NO do you deny writing this post yesterday and if you do when did killing innocent children become a laughing matter? AGAIN I know you have fellow SICK supporters like Ernie, Bears and Junior who would defile their own kids assuming they have any in order to gain consensus on a boxing message board but why do you think this subject matter and mode of attack is appropriate ????

Posted May 29, 2013 1:14 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, do you ADMIT that you wrote that SICK piece of work?? I know you will say “it was a joke or some derivation of that” but alas thats NOT gonna cut it…. Why do you HATE this fighter SOOOOOO much? What has Ward done except win his fights? What has driven you SOOOO Mad with him???

Posted May 29, 2013 1:09 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

LMAO! I thought “ball gazer” was appropriate too…

Posted May 29, 2013 1:09 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, did you REALLY say “Double Dare” LOL……HOW OLD are you? I have already littered this thread with post after post substantiating my claims and all you can do is write LONG comebacks and NOT accept responsibility! Where is the BOLD Gonzo who was gonna come to New York City and Kill me a year ago… He has been replaced by a pre op Tranny who is begging for his LIFE saying “I double Dare you” LMFAO!!

Posted May 29, 2013 1:06 pm 


SREDMOND

MK, you should respect Ward more than me he is the #2 fighter P4P in the World and he beat the hell out of your favorite fighter who’s namesake you have taken on!!! We are FINALLY on the same page as you acknowledge Wards Greatness and stop pretending that Kessler was EVER his equal or comprable… I saw your fantasy morph from “Kessler is gonna beat Froch” to “Froch can destroy Ward”…. If someone beats Froch are they gonna destroy Ward now too??? HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted May 29, 2013 1:04 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, you cannot control me I am NOT Bears, Junior, Ernie or any of the other soft guys on this board I have seen thru you and I am dropping it on you… You choose to write these posts NOW you are going to have to answer for them… I actually don’t blame you for trying to say you did NOT, its shows you have a modicum of SHAME and your conduct in the future had better fall in line or your exposure is going to be more rapid and even more incisive…Its EASY handling a malignant Narcissist and Deviant like you…Its all about knowing which buttons to push… Your pride is SOOOOO offended that you have been outflanked, out thought and outwitted that you are left with NO option EXCEPT to run or pretend you are NOT the author of your own work…. No matter what happens YOU KNOW and I KNOW that I broke you in half and you feel it deep in your chest… AGAIN do you deny writing that post to Tomato Can regarding your SICK hatred of Ward its a YES or NO question… No need for the Supreme Court letter??

Posted May 29, 2013 1:01 pm 


MK

Yes all these comments are great, but I am on a mission to find a life partner for Sredmond, and a day job:

If I could find a day job for Sredmond, he might stop posting, you see my logic. Sredmond finds a life partner, stops posting, this may set his Neurobiology straight.

I respect Ward much more as a person than Sredmond, who has to create a 100 comments, on the same sad thing. At least Ward only makes two conflicting comments, at a time.

Posted May 29, 2013 12:58 pm 


SREDMOND

B Red, he has been doing this for at least a YEAR and most posters are too weak, bigoted or uninterested to call him out but NOW that I am putting him under the spotlight you see the guy starting to WILT and run from the truth… he doe NOT even want to admit to what he wrote YESTERDAY…. Or directly address his OWN posts… The boy has been stripped of all that cyber bravado!

Posted May 29, 2013 12:56 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, I am SHOWING you YOUR posts from this thread and the other so you claim that is NOT your writing to Tomato Can and others? YOU OPENLY deny thats your post…. AGAIN please do? I would love for you to solidify the fact you are a LIAR as well as Psycho please help me with another FALSE denial!!

Posted May 29, 2013 12:55 pm 


B Red

Gonzo is one sick pupph

Posted May 29, 2013 12:54 pm 


SREDMOND

Below we have Gonzo showing the type of UNBALANCED individual he is…How can someone who OPENLY HATES a fighter so violently be taken seriously? this is insanity at its finest and when coupled with his being a proponent of harming children (something he admits in a post below) it paints the picture of a VERY sick and deviant person using the Internet to get his views across….. Gonzo do YOU deny this post below is YOURS? or will you AGAIN equivocate and pretend you did not write this?

Posted May 29, 2013 12:53 pm 


SREDMOND

Ernie, you are a SELF admitted part of the SREDMOND FAN CLUB ie you saying “Your posts on the Klit threads are classics” thats SOME high praise for a guy you pretend you cannot stand… Pretty inconsistent but then AGAIN your loyalties are based on the fighter…If I was not a fan of Wards you would hail me as a savior but because the GREAT SOG has beaten down Kessler and others in such stellar fashion you harbor abiding bitterness that you hoist upon me when I show respect for the #2 P4P fighter in the World…. Jesus did Gonzo give Bears, Ernie and Jr a Group Hug? LOL nothing shows failure worse than 4 chumps all huddled up tight because one guy beat them down with superior logic, a damn good memory and command of the facts….Ok guys I’m gonna let you catch your breath… For a min its been FUN!!

Posted May 29, 2013 12:48 pm 


SREDMOND

Vindication after Vindication!! AGAIN you admit to the statement I put forth as far as you LOVING most post over there and calling them “Classics” the bones you have to pick with me are over Andre Ward whom you despise… In essence your opinions of me are governed by the fighter being discussed…. Thats serious inconsistency! Gotcha Ernie!

Posted May 29, 2013 12:35 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Shred-
You can try to spin my words and come to your own conclusions if you like. I commented that some of your Klitschko comments are classics, please don’t accelerate your fellatio fantasies over this. Funny is funny, no matter who writes it. For the most part though you come off as a disturbed ball gazer and part time pillow biter, although your work as a Sodomy Rights Activist is commendable…

Posted May 29, 2013 12:32 pm 


B Red

Bears your a funny dude

Posted May 29, 2013 12:30 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, really who is impressed with Ortiz ring weight fight night it was listed as 164 because he had 14 pounds on FMJ but he made 147… AGAIN how is the revelatory or impressive all you had to do was watch the fight but I don’t think you had HBO at the time you were discussing watching those tragic HW’s on EPIX as if that is the mecca of boxing… I have seen you attach yourself to MANY men and a guy who discussing murdering children LIKE GONZO would certainly fit the bill for you despite you ACTUALLY having a child… AGAIN we now your moral compass is nonexistent so I am NOT surprised…. Impressed by Ortiz fight weight??HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! What a serious NOVICE

Posted May 29, 2013 12:29 pm 


BEARS

“Then out comes the virgin mr trader with his race card in the air”- lol that was funny. Very aptly put. Bred comes around sredmond. Usually posts brief one liners. Usually comes around when sreds getting smoked an has no support or when noone is responding to sred. I think its sredmond pretending to be someone else and pretending someone supports him

Posted May 29, 2013 12:23 pm 


SREDMOND

Junior, do you DENY writing the post below? Why were you trying to use Tysons deplorable comments as a reason to make such comments? You asked why similar comments cannot be made? My question is why would you want to…. Thats called “tit for tat” Did your mother NOT teach you that 2 wrongs don’t make a right?? I know you are EMBARASSED by your comments and seeking to change the tone and nature of them but it will NOT work with me… You have exposed yourself and I revel in the reality of your foul spirit no longer being able to suppress itself….

Posted May 29, 2013 12:22 pm 


B Red

@Junior, I disagree that Sredmond has been beat down. He is actually winning

Posted May 29, 2013 12:14 pm 


SREDMOND

Junior, being “beat down” is a state of mind I see 3 guys scrambling like mad because I’m breaking down their arguments and have them running simply by posting their OWN words…. I feel VERY victorious but you are entitled to your opinion LOL

Posted May 29, 2013 12:13 pm 


SREDMOND

B Red, we have ALL seen the vile subject matter that this guy splatters on ESB day after day… he is unique in his calls for violence and EXTREME methods of dismemberment which involve even children… Bears has a learning disabled little girl and he STILL supports Gonzo discussing harming children… I have NO skin in the game because I don’t have kids (Thank God) but these are the sick minds that abound on here and when you call them out they lose it…!

Posted May 29, 2013 12:09 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, thanks for sticking around taking a dump on you has become a cottage industry for me… It would take 20 years to get the stench of my urine out of your fur…. You are a WELL KNOW Bigot and imbecile on this thread but WORST of all you are unimaginative and a BIG TIME follower which is what I have reduced yourself, Gonzo, Junior and others too… AGAIN I suggest you guys coordinate your attacks and get more organized… 3 on 1 is WAYYYY to easy for me when the collective brain power between you 3 is equivalent to a developmentally challenged 2 year old….

Posted May 29, 2013 12:07 pm 


B Red

Gonzo is mentally disturbed writing a post like that

Posted May 29, 2013 12:06 pm 


SREDMOND

Ernie, you are the SAME guy wthat was sucking me off when I was commenting on the Klitschko thread NOW because you totally hate Ward you are on here changing your tune… You called my comments on the Klit thread “Classics” or do you deny the statements? Please do I love to KNOW who the dishonest are…

Posted May 29, 2013 12:04 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

The legendary Gonzo layin it out for the fools once again…

Posted May 29, 2013 12:00 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, calm yourself and accept the losses you have taken and the necks I have snapped… its good that you and ESB idiot Bears are available at the same time I can do a 2 for 1 pounding your silly heads to mush… The opinions of yourself, Bears and Juniror amount to less than NOTHING to me… You are a guy who pretends he ACTUALLY boxed and creates phony credentials for himself like “Gonzo of Nazareth” and the “Best poster on ESB” I have told you countless times “AD” who I at times disagree with his the BEST poster on ESB you are a CHILD who thrives on discussing eating another mans “Genitals” or do you deny this is one of your STOCK comments along with constant porn references….. AGAIN he will equivocate and prevaricate (lie) the more I get this guy to pretend he’s someone else the more complete the destruction… I almost liked the OLD intractable you a little better NOW you are snivelling in a manner I am accustomed to seeing from a lowly intellect and fractional man like ESB fool Bears!…

Posted May 29, 2013 11:58 am 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Thanks Bears.. You make me laugh too.

SRED.. For the last time it’s not washing. Keep twisting away and praying to your god that people lose the ability to read. You got spanked and once you have failed miserably to meet my challenge, thus exposing you as nothing but a desperate shameless lying sack of feces.

Game, set, and match.

#1 lolol

Posted May 29, 2013 11:57 am 


SREDMOND

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Gonzo I posted YOUR comments from the other threads below… That is a VERY transparent tactic trying to sell me impersonating you… I would RATHER impersonate Satan… Face it you simply DON’T respect your own commentary at this point and that is a DIRECT result of the withering assaults I have leveled against you and your BS…. AGAIN the sight of you QUITTING and DISAVOWING your own posts is a terrific reward for the Tyson blows I have landed on your jaw…. We BOTH know who you are and WHAT you are, I don’t need a bunch of cyber punks to see it any other way… You and I BOTH know that the self proclaimed ONLY “Best Poster on ESB” NO LONGER WANTS TO OWN HIS OWN WORDS….!!! Me imitate you?? HAHAHAHAHAHA! I know that NO ONE can accurately impersonate me because my style speaks for itself and I don’t communicate in childish one word blurbs!!….I have presented proof of your CRIMES below, the best you have for me is that I LIKE Millions am a fan of Ward and Mayweather who are respectively #1 and #2 P4P according to Ring Magazine…Or are you saying that I alone put them in that position? Thats a LOFTY perch to say the least….!!

Posted May 29, 2013 11:50 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Some of my best friends are boxing fans…

Posted May 29, 2013 11:43 am 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Junior.. Yeah he’s absolutely pathetic. Check the Froch decisions Kessler thread further down the page and look how he does that in virtually every single one of his replies to me.

Posted May 29, 2013 11:33 am 


stuck in a moment

Matthews….. Your right on about the USA fan base thing here. Unless an American is fighting in his home town and not just home state or country then their really is no home advantage. Americans will root against another American just cause he is from the city of a big sports team rival. But this is something I been saying for years and the euros don’t want to believe it

Posted May 29, 2013 11:21 am 


stuck in a moment

LH…. Ward said after the fight he would go if they reward him the way he deserves. Lets see what they offer. If they come in with some 50/50 crap cause froch is the draw then no way it happens. Ward is a major draw in the uk cause the super 6. Ward is most likely more popular in the uk then here in the states.

Posted May 29, 2013 11:17 am 


TARK

Somebody will point out that DLH has 10 “World Championships” in 6 weight divisions… But the 130-pound title was a complete canard… And so was the 160-pound title against Felix Sturm… Everyone knows Oscar got his ass whipped that night… Then when you realize Oscar never beat a prime-time ATG fighter, and that Floyd completely out-boxed him, then you know if Floyd beats Canelo it puts him on a plane never before achieved … However, something tells me Floyd will chicken out on this one … because Canelo is super talented.

Posted May 29, 2013 10:55 am 


MK

But first of all Sredmond, get a day job, and a wife or life partner, or whatever tuns you on, no one reads your posts.

On to business:

I am not saying that Froch would put a world of hurt on little Andre, in England, I am asking for Ward to travel once, and I mean outside the states, if this is impossible, Ward has nowhere to go.

I am not saying that Froch, in England, with a good referee, not allowing holding, would be impossible for Ward, to stay away from, and he can’t take a punch. I am just asking why the hell, it is so impossible for Ward to rematch anybody.

I am not saying that Ward can’t find a retired Lhw, to come to Oakland, like a drained Dawson. I am asking -who is Ward going to fight, if he won’t travel, in the future? I can’t get an answer from the 3 unemployed Ward fans on this site.

But first of all Sredmond, get a day job, and a wife or life partner, or whatever tuns you on, no one reads your posts.

Posted May 29, 2013 10:52 am 


TARK

LMFAO!!!! Junior NAILED Sremond with his last post. Sred can’t see it but he’s the mirror image of Gonzo—except he hates white fighters and is a professional K Bros hater. Before Forch-Kessler II Sred hated on both fighters and said whoever lost would make pathetic excuses—but made no analysis on the fight itself. He just kept comparing them unfavorably to Ward. But Ward is not a hater himself. Ward praised Froch after the fight and said, “This is not about me. This is Froch’s night and he deserves it.” Ward could give a damn about somebody’s color.

Sremond’s latest target is Canelo, a white skinned, freckle faced, red haired 22-year-old Castilian—who just happens to be the most dominant fighter in the world at 154. Even though Austin Trout defended his face and nose much better against Miguel Cotto’s ATG masterful jab than Floyd did, Sred doesn’t believe it had any significance. Floyd is easily the best defender in Boxing History—so if Trout does a BETTER job defending than Floyd against an ATG jab … you damned straight it’s significant.

Funny thing is, Canelo fought a completely tactical defensive fight against Trout. It was a thing of brilliance. Canelo knew he was winning every round on the cards—so he made the super slick southpaw try to get those rounds back. Trout looked pathetic trying to mount an offense. Overextending himself on several occasions trying to lay a damaging glove on Canelo. Saul set Austin up for a beautiful long range straight right hand that decked the clever southpaw slickster for the first time in his life. Brilliant technical execution from the 22-year-old reigning 154-pound King. Alvarez vs Floyd is going to be one for the record books. One for Fistic History.

Floyd could go for his 9th World Championship in 5 divisions. Something so unprecedented that it would crown Floyd as the GOAT unquestionably … But does Floyd have the balls to try to beat this Kid? … I doubt it.

Posted May 29, 2013 10:41 am 


SREDMOND

Junior, so you are saying that Mike Tyson’s actions were correct using such disrespectful and derogatory terminology towards a reporter? I disagree Tyson was very much out of line… So you support bigotry from Tyson and others? Shameful Junior

Posted May 29, 2013 10:21 am 


SREDMOND

Junior, apparently race, is your, Gonzo and Bears “Go To Thing” I’m just WAYYYYYY better at responding, pointing out hypocrisy and Bigotry while never launching Racial attacks… When you press the Bigot enough he will always cave to his anger… Hence me twisting you in knots as we speak… This is remedial, do you understand? I can make it more plain if need be “Junior”

Posted May 29, 2013 10:19 am 


SREDMOND

No Junior, Gonzo started it with ME I just reposted his earlier posts from the other thread…So now we have you branded as I’ll informed or a LIAR… Again YOU are the guy who made an off the Wall reference to a Mike Tyson statement ants tries to use that as justification for people injecting Race in the convo on the message board… AGAIN those are YOUR statements… Do you have a short term memory deficit or are you equivocating??

Posted May 29, 2013 10:16 am 


SREDMOND

Junior, you opinions means little to me and you are certainly entitled to it… As you can see I am very comfortable with my stances on boxing… I deplore BIGOTS, EXCUSE MAKERS and those who vacate reality to suit their view of a fight… If you fall under any of those categories then so be it my position is clear… Tark and I have philosophical differences, Bears, Gonzo and K2 are outright Bigots and I have no issue challenging, dismantling and pissing them off you strike me as more of a WHINER/Effeminate sort (kind of an Adrian type) When
There is an hard opposing opinion your sort tends to become agitated and pissy… Generally your harmless something along the lines of “jock itch” annoying but easily curable…

Posted May 29, 2013 9:47 am 


SREDMOND

Ahhhhhh sooooo you deny your comments Gonzo? Or are you backing away??? Dude WE (you and I) KNOW I broke you last night and this morning I knew if I stoked that little boy ego of yours and fanned the flames you would step on your own tongue and you have… Admitting your “Anti-Anerican Sentiments” and seeing Cheaters according to race as if there’s a difference… You cannot understand how satisfied I am with undressing you and forcing you to call for help from Adrian, Junior, Bears and “The Mods” HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!

Posted May 29, 2013 9:25 am 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, I see I have you on the Run!!!!! You have now stooped to enlisting aid from dyed in the wool weaklings like Jr and Adrian?? I have you chumps forming a support group NOW THAT’S FUNNY!!!!! LMAFAO!!

Posted May 29, 2013 9:14 am 


Gonzo of Nazareth

SRED.. Stop wasting your time because it’s totally futile. You have utterly exposed and the worst part about it is you have done most of it yourself. It’s highly disturbing and sad that you don’t realize that bro. I’m out.

Posted May 29, 2013 9:13 am 


SREDMOND

Froch can chat up whatever he wants the fact is the blanket attempts at dismissing his losses to Ward are shrouded in bitterness…Beyond an additional payday, Frochs scalp holds NO additional cache for Ward because he already has it!! Carl Froch peddling excuses about why he lost and knocking Wards more classic approach to boxing certainly opens him up to criticism as well.. You over the top Froch fans love to try and sell Ward as having “run from him” when the truth be told Ward beat him on the inside and the OUTSIDE… Again ALL the excuses for losses are coming from Team Froch
And Team Kessler because they could not get the job done when opportunity presented itself… This attempt at painting Froch as de facto #1 at 168 is ridiculous he’s a CLEAR #2 and he has a 0 sum gain against Kessler who he dropped one too and then won one… Personally O do hope they fight again so the GAP in class can BR graphically illustrated once again, to my eye Carl Froch with that LOW left hand is made to order for Ward…Easy$$$$$

Posted May 29, 2013 8:50 am 


Mbuyiseli

I don’t know why we even try & entertain the morons who keep thinking that Froch has a better chance at beating Ward in the UK. Its just plain ridiculous plus to put McCall and Ward in the same sentence is plain absurd. Ward won Gold in the Olympics where judging is atrocious at times, he is still undefeated. Boring or not this guy knows how to win. Pity I can’t say that about Froch. Demented mentality to the Froch fan boys the fight with Ward to them was close. I would like one of these nut cases to tell which rounds did Carl win against Andre? I gave Froch 1 out of 12. That is a measly 8% if that conveys success to the dummies, then there’s no hope for you lot. Gonzo you are one of those morons, boxing is not a team sport when LeBron fouls out its all doom and gloom for the Heat. None of the Brits will get in the ring with Carl. Plus why you conveniently skip the Direll fight where Froch was given a home cooked decision. Ward should never go to the UK if the judges in AC wanted to crook him, what will stop the judges in the UK. Look at the Kessler score cards one imbecile had it 118-110 for Froch.

Posted May 29, 2013 6:08 am 


AD

The ONLY way Froch is beating Ward is if he can force mistakes out of him and break him. Froch might not be slick, he might not be a one punch KO guy but he is there from start to finish going for you, and if you aren`t on the ball he`ll get you.

Will he do it if they fight in the UK – for me no he won`t, and even if he does find a chink in Wards armour all we`ll hear is that Ward was injured/off his game whatever.

Froch fights in a certain way, and because of it, he`ll never really be appreciated by everyone.

Is it unreasonable for Froch to stipulate that the fight takes place in the UK – hell no.

Froch is the one with the stronger negotiating position since his small chance of success means that he wants what Ward has now (#1 spot) LESS than Ward wants what he has (Belts, big $$$, and the buzz of a recent performance).

Ward would make EVERYONE between 160lbs-175lbs look sloppy, he is just that good fundamentally and technically whether you like his style or not. There are maybe 3-4 fighters around the weight range with a resume anything like as good as Froch’s, and noone with a better shot of beating Ward in my opinion.

So really is it a crime for him to display some confidence and talk up the fight?

Ward should be thanking Froch, because where is Ward going otherwise – Bika in Oakland? Pascal? Bute? Froch retreads?

Posted May 29, 2013 3:49 am 


rod

Froch boxed amazingly for the first 3 rounds with that power jab. It became more even from the 4th onwards. Froch is hitable. He can improve. That power jab is amazing. He just needs to use it more like he did in the first 3 rounds. It was like watching Wlad Klitschko at super middleweight. Respect to both men. Saying all this Ward would beat Froch. He is just too slick. He moves in and out. Creates angles, varies the distance, counters, fates, varies the attack both up and down. Ward has a boring style but is just very talented at his craft.

Posted May 29, 2013 3:08 am 


choky

i am neither american nor birtish so am totally neutral – i lke froch a lot and have tremendous respect for him hwver his fans are lacking objectivity – u like or dislike ward but if u are objective u know how good he is and that no matter how good froch is ward is just in another league
and it is not like if they had not fought before ? anybody who is objective and neutral saw how easily ward beat both kessler and froch – i would expect a second fight to be eve easier for ward – i wouild like to see it though – and while i was agreeig with some of you that ward was bit boring his last fight with Dawson was really good and gives me hopes that he will devellop in a tremendous fighter
this said if i was ward i wouild travel to uk and beat froch convincingly – so i hope he agrees to do that

Posted May 29, 2013 3:08 am 


MK

First of all, someone needs to get a day job and a wife, if that is possible:) There are probably 3 Ward fans in the world, and they live on this site.

On to business. Ward was knocked down cleanly against Boone (Journeyman) At some point he started to work with Victor Conte of the famed BALCO lab, as pointed out in the media. After this he headbutted his way to a belt, and never travelled again.

All super 6 fights and other big Smw fights have been won by the hometown boy, even Abraham winning in his German city against Stieglitz, and the other way around. Clearly hometown advantage matters, why else would Ward not go to europe.

The thing is that Wards resume is highly questionable, at this point. Everytime europeans mentions that maybe he should travel, once, the same old Ward fans say he don’t need to. This is correct, but who is he going to fight next then, at Smw. This leaves Lhw, because Ward has close to zero following, compared to the two men, Kessler and Froch.

But first of all, get a day job, and a wife, is my best advice to the three old Ward fans:)

Posted May 29, 2013 2:23 am 


hookoffthejab

like i said ……

Posted May 29, 2013 1:06 am 


hookoffthejab

You’re all idiots…You do understand that right ???

Posted May 29, 2013 12:59 am 


BEARS

Gonzo didn’t say he hated america or americans. He said he didn’t like cheats. Lol. Sredmond classic PUTTING WORDS IN OTHER PEOPLES MOUTHS THEN COMMENTING ON WHAT HE PUT THERE. LOL!

Posted May 29, 2013 12:41 am 


BEARS

U know sredmonds getting smoked on east side when he pulls out the RACE CARD. LOOLOLOLOLOLO

Posted May 29, 2013 12:29 am 


SREDMOND

Did you REALLY call me “an A hole” that’s funny!! I think Gonzos reading his posts on the other thread trying to assess the damage he did to himself… I asked a couple of straightforward questions and as usual this small town loser is equivocating and qualifying his statements instead of owning them… But it’s to be expected this guy makes excuses for EVERY result he does not like… If you, he and Bears had a child together the resulting bastard (Bears second) would not know how to spell the word “Truth”….

Posted May 29, 2013 12:13 am 


SREDMOND

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA are you having your period on the website Adrian? Seriously are you gonna cry man? Relax it’s just me breaking down your tragic whining on a boxing website.. Im sure you still a decent HALF MAN
in your real life Lol!!

Posted May 29, 2013 12:08 am 


PEEJ

Adrien constantly tries to twist things I his favor. I’ve done stopped replying to anything he says because it is complete nonsense. Your just doing what I was doing last night. My suggestion is to let it go SREDMOND

Posted May 28, 2013 11:54 pm 


SREDMOND

Ahhhhhh Bears has begun his bigotry as per usual he cannot contain himself… I love this guy he is always my STAR witness against himself!! Bears what do you think collaborating with ANOTHER weak, spineless poster like Adrian is going to accomplish ??! Just 2 destructions for the price of one…. And I’m doing this on my IPhone LMAO!

Posted May 28, 2013 11:53 pm 


SREDMOND

Adrian, your really borderline unworthy of a retort but my point stands Floyd’s never tried to rule 154 with his two fights there… So what’s your point? Are you going to keep whining for a Canelo fight? When did I call Canelo a bum? I call him a very good young fighter BUMS are fighter like Ross Puritty… So who did I call a bum? Do you think Gonzo’s gonna save your bony neck Lol?? I have that boy posting and going crazy while I laugh my ass off… But if you’re feeling bold try me…In the end Canelo will do as instructed because that’s the order of things..He’s a kid who’s not gonna impose his demands on FMJ…

Posted May 28, 2013 11:43 pm 


BEARS

Oooooooohhhhh sredmonds PULLING OUT THE RACE CARD!!!.!!!.!!! TYPICAL!!!!!!!.

Posted May 28, 2013 11:41 pm 


BEARS

So more proof. I just watched the tape. You could tell dawson wasn’t. Himseld and that much was obvious. Now we have the PROOF. Sredmond hates proof. He feebly tries to refute professionals around the sport that disagree with him. This clown even refuted the surgen that. Stitched up vitaly when he described how cuts like vitalys happen. Sredmond said in response to briggs and lewis saying vitaly is the hardest hitter they ever faced said they don’t know who hit them hardest but that sredmond, he himself knows who punched briggs and lewis hardest. Then sredmond thought tua was wbc champ. I got two words for you “this guy” is such a chump. Baahhahahahahahahaha. Please sredmond can u furnish your own proof at this point like other parties have? If not, you are BEATEN and DISMISSED. Man, gonzo is ALWAYS making quik work of you.

Posted May 28, 2013 11:40 pm 


Adrian

SREDMOND

“Canelo is champion at 154, who really cares? Floyd’s NEVER campained at 154, he had 2 fights there in 17 years that ONLY shows he is the WW Champion despite ONE VISIT to 154 in the past 5 years… Thanks for making that point Bears!”

Who cares Canelo is a champion??? Boxing fans care and his opponent that fight and train each day to get that belt from him that’s who cares but I know for you everyone is a bum and not important if is not mayweather broner ward Hopkins Lewis …what a pattern..

Posted May 28, 2013 11:34 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, why is it “disgusting” that Tomato Can is an SOG fan?? Because that does not jibe with your Anti American sentiments?? Do you really expect Ward to have no fans or supporters? That’s not realistic he’s P4P #2 in the World and he cleaned out the division…Thats life you fool!

Posted May 28, 2013 11:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Now Gonzo and other WEAK excise making posters seek to get NOT one but 3 fighters a PARDON from their defeats..LMAO!!! Watch the excuses RAIN for Dawson, Froch and Kessler all men who were taken to school by Ward… This is boxing at its WORST rife with excuses and conspiracies when we have clear cut results to rely on… Kessler had more KO’s than Ward had fights when they fought and he was stomped SHAMEFULLY by a Green fighter… Froch who’s a BIG TALKER has whined like a wash woman about getting dismantled when a judge from his own country scored the fight something like 118-110 for Ward pure domination and a reflection of most intelligent ringsiders thoughts… Ward chopped the bigger Dawson up like celery…Dawson showed class after calling out Dawson and losing he slunk PDF like the beaten dog he was and has NEVER DARED suggest another fight with Ward at ANY Weight… But Gonzos act is driven by Anti-Anerican sentiment he admits to on another thread so his opinion is a result of an abiding hatred for the US… Again HE admits to his Anti-American sentiments and believes the US has a monopoly on doping when the sane among us know it’s a world issue…. He will come back with 5800 posts but alas he knows it’s true :)

Posted May 28, 2013 11:30 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

#1 lol

Posted May 28, 2013 11:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Here goes silly self proclaimed “Best” ESB poster Gonzo whining away about Andre Ward destroying everyone in the Super Six… Listen fool the history and videotapes of those classic Andre Ward wins cannot be posted away by a tragically bitter Froch fan… Carl’s a damn good DISTANT second best 168 pounder and that’s etched in stone.. Winners DONT need LONG WINDED elaborate conspiracies to explain their dominance… It is ALWAYS the loser with the LONG SAD story…. Why not be happy with Frochs victory over a surgically repaired Kessler? Should he fight Ward again we know there
Will be an avalanche of excuses like the ones you manufactured to explain his serial defeats to the REAL 168 pound Champion Andre Ward…!

Posted May 28, 2013 11:19 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Froch needs to steer himself away from Ward. He can’t BEAT him…..Make ANY excuse needed. SAY that you don’t want to sell your fans a POOR product…anything to not take the Fight…..From Wards perspective he should have his people pursue the Fight!! Its a no brainer.

Posted May 28, 2013 11:17 pm 


PEEJ

And just because Ward fought in the IS that did not make it home court advantage. He fought Froch in like New Jersey which would mean its not home advantage cause he is from Cali.

Posted May 28, 2013 11:14 pm 


PEEJ

So then you must of had a problem with Froch constantly hitting Kessler in back of the head then last Saturday right? And when it happened the ref would always warn Kessler. So that’s what your looking for then?

Posted May 28, 2013 11:13 pm 


Tomato Can

lol, no Gonzo, I’m no great poster, I’m just a long time boxing fan. Since you put it that way, I see nothing wrong with Froch trying to lure Ward to the UK. By doing so, I think he might even win a couple of more rounds, at least on the judge’s score cards anyway. If it happens, I’ll tune in, but I’ve already made my pick in that one no matter where it takes place.

Posted May 28, 2013 11:06 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Listen watch and learn !

Posted May 28, 2013 11:05 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Is about to speak !

Posted May 28, 2013 11:05 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

#2

Posted May 28, 2013 11:04 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

#1

Posted May 28, 2013 10:58 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Not having a pop at you Tomato Can BTW. You’re a good poster. Not in my league though. But that’s no disgrace seeing as people keep telling me I’m the best poster on here all the time. lol

Posted May 28, 2013 10:58 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Tomato Can.. smart like it was for Ward to have it written into his contract that all his fights in the Super Six take place at home, something which literally guaranteed him a conveniently blind corrupt home country ref to officiate every single one of them and turn a blind eye to all his B_hop-esque billy goat butting and ridiculously excessive and illegal holding flagrant rule breaking? He even had.. and get this folks.. THREE fellow Californian referees for five of those fights .. one of which was an out of competition cherrypick over a heavily inactive Sakio BIka who’d only seen 14 minutes of action in 3 years and about who Ward said they ”knew he was going to tire down the stretch due to his inactivity.. Ward was mysteriously awarded 2pts for that fight even though it wasn’t part of the tournament lol.. Ever so coincidentally those three fights Ward had fellow Californian refs in were the three fights he fought the dirtiest (Kessler, Green, and Bika. His fouling in all those fights, particularly the Kessler one, where he very intentionally used the top of his billy goat skull to slice Kessler’s eyes to shreds (Kessler had never been cut in 43 fights before that), very nearly ending his career and permanently damaging his sight (I thought he was supposed to be a devout Christian? lol).

Posted May 28, 2013 10:56 pm 


Tomato Can

Froch would be smarter to try his luck with old man Hopkins. At least by fighting Hopkins he would be fighting someone who’s going to show him more than one or two looks. He could actually build his confidence in beating a slick fighter, even if that guy is 15 years past his prime.

Posted May 28, 2013 10:19 pm 


Tomato Can

LOL, it’s smart of Froch to try and get Ward over there in hopes of him succumbing to jet lag. Even that won’t be enough. You can’t get ready for a master boxer, by fighting guys that come strait forward and neglect defense. That’s a sure way to get a second rude awakening…

Posted May 28, 2013 10:16 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Edit> and there are numerous reasons why

Posted May 28, 2013 9:40 pm 


Harry

Someone says below that froch is the same as khan…that’s a perfect comparison. Froch is an exciting world beater head and shoulders above most and very exciting…just falls short of the elite level sadly.

Posted May 28, 2013 9:39 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Happyboy.. Please explain to me exactly what the advantage in home ADVANTAGE means. And when you’ve finished doing so, perhaps you could remind me how many times the away fighter won in the Super Six and why every statistic in the book proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that home ADVANTAGE is so advantageous. And their are numerous reasons why it is not just one. Although some folk might have to extend their brains a little to try and work out what they are and why they often can and do combine to mean the difference between winning and losing, something which yet again is backed up by every statistic in the book.

Posted May 28, 2013 9:38 pm 


Keith

Froch would have had more support in the uk had he not slagged off joe calzaghe when he first came on the scene. Us viewers please try n watch ‘ringside’ a uk show where froch n calzaghe get in the ring n talk tactics of how they’d fight each other…froch admits jc would beat him on points. He’s a talker froch but face to face he folds…that’s why he waited until kessler was 3 years older for the rematch. Froch is exceptionally good, but he ain’t great. Calzaghe was great, ward ,if he stays at the top for a long time, will be great. Froch is on a par with Clinton woods. There’s no shame in that but he should know his place and keep quiet.

Posted May 28, 2013 9:35 pm 


Happyboy

A one-handed Ward thrashed Froch around to a 118 – 110 UD and these dumb fans think crossing the pond is gonna make a difference to the outcome. Think again suckers! The difference is in the skill level not geographical location numbnuts.

Posted May 28, 2013 9:21 pm 


Fighters

Ward looked terrible in the last round against Froch, purposely dropped his gumshield, Froch could out work him from the 1st round in the return fight, pressure him from the get go, can ward take that for 12 rounds, not sure at all.

Posted May 28, 2013 9:01 pm 


USA

Forget Froch, we want Ward v Hopkins, that’s the fight.

Posted May 28, 2013 8:43 pm 


UK

I grab and headbutt, fact.

Posted May 28, 2013 8:29 pm 


UK

What broken hand, myth.

Posted May 28, 2013 8:27 pm 


PEEJ

He beat Froch with one hand. He knows nothing of the 2 handed fighter. Ward by late stoppage or decision that’s not even close

Posted May 28, 2013 8:22 pm 


UK

Froch by KO, he will connect on that chin this time, Ward knows it, don’t fight the same fighter twice, he knows your style now, bore in with the head and grab, Froch by KNOCKOUT.

Posted May 28, 2013 8:19 pm 


B Red

Agreed

Posted May 28, 2013 8:19 pm 


art

Froch loses to Ward 9 out of 10 times. Ward showed a shaky chin as a prospect. Exploiting that is Froch’s only chance to beat him.

Posted May 28, 2013 8:16 pm 


BEARS

Theskill discrepency b/w dawson and ward doesn’t begin to compare to guerrero vs floyd. Not even close. And nobody was “boiled down”. Chad dawsons scalp was worth about 50% to me. And ward is no way credited with anything at lhw or anything xhad accomplished there. Ward will have 2 fight there and face chad there. Chad was a fraction of himself clearly

Posted May 28, 2013 7:58 pm 


LH

Hopkins did an Ottke, that is the truth, he cheated.

Posted May 28, 2013 7:52 pm 


LH

Ward v Hopkins?…………………..

Posted May 28, 2013 7:51 pm 


LH

Froch won’t fight Hopkins, but if Froch beats Hopkins, he was 48, get out clause.

Posted May 28, 2013 7:49 pm 


LH

Did Hopkins cheat in the 10th round against Calzaghe?………, or not.
Answers on a postcard………..

Posted May 28, 2013 7:46 pm 


PEEJ

Please. Dawson did not handle Hopkins. He only won because he was more busier. He was not landing anything meaningful. And it was an example not a comparison. You can take any fighter against Floyd and there work rate drops. Any fighter against Hopkins and the work rate drops. Any fighter against Ward and the work rate drops. It was an example. But obviously you really don’t know much about the sport so I am done speaking boxing with you. You must obviously be friends with Adrien

Posted May 28, 2013 7:44 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, your last post made NO SENSE but then again it was preceded by 7500 other posts in the same category…

Posted May 28, 2013 7:37 pm 


SREDMOND

Shadow in the Hallway, OK your elaborate excuses for Chads loss somehow are of interest to you that’s fine but not remotely relevant to the result… WHICH IS WARD TKO Round 10… On to the next one!

Posted May 28, 2013 7:36 pm 


matthews

What slap did Joe land that would make him hit the deck. I did see Joe hit the deck off a Hopkins shot though. M

Posted May 28, 2013 7:35 pm 


BEARS

Dude are u seriously comparing daws ward, to floyd vs gueerero?! Bahahahahahaha YEAH RIGHT! You actually think the skill discrepency is on par? That’s ridiculus. That’s the stpidest thing I’ve heard all week. Dawson handed hopkins. U mut think hops garbage. What garbage analogy/comparrison

Posted May 28, 2013 7:24 pm 


LH

What about when Hopkins feined the low blow against Calzaghe, was that a plan B, or was it cheating, he was tired and knew he had to do something to not get stopped, he had nothing, so chose to hit the deck, take a 5 minute breather and cheat.

Posted May 28, 2013 7:22 pm 


matthews

Split decision easy. Yeah right. 1000 ineffective slaps. Workrate gave him that decision. He didn’t even want to give hops a rematch in his homeland. Took his “dominant ” split decision and ran.

Posted May 28, 2013 7:19 pm 


shadow in the hallway

Sredmond I don’t care what you think. You are a fanboy and not fan. There’s a big difference between the two and reason, facts and logic are lost on you. It’s common knowledge Chad wad completely dead at the weight. I know people who were actually in camp with him and I saw the video of him getting smoked by Pantera and have been told by numerous very reputable sources that he was getting lit up every day in camp. There are even articles about this on line from fighters and trainers who attended that camp and witnessed it all firsthand. I give a hell of a lot more credence to what they say and their version of events than some blind fanboy’s version of events who refuses to see the wood through the trees because it doesn’t fit with his agenda.

I have no dog in this race it’s just you’re trying to pass fiction off as reality and I know for a fact you couldn’t be more wrong. It was not a prime Chad Dawson in there it was a badly drained fighter who was completely dead at the weight. He spent more time in the sauna during those final few weeks than he did training for the fight. Learn to be a fan of fighters and not a fanboy. It will stand you in good stead

Posted May 28, 2013 7:17 pm 


LH

Ward, just do the right thing and fight away.

Posted May 28, 2013 7:16 pm 


PEEJ

Calzaghe did not beat Hopkins easy. He definitely one only because of his work rate. Calzaghe too more of a beating in that fight against Hopkins did that Hopkins did against him. That’s why he never wanted a rematch.

Posted May 28, 2013 7:16 pm 


SREDMOND

Man please Calzaghe could NOT even stop an decrepit, cut Roy Jones he was NOT stopping Bhop… Hopkins had him on the canvas and looked like he was ready for the next fight afterward… Joe was banged up and won an S/D…. Nothing to yank off about thats why Calzaghes gaudy record is kept in perspective…

Posted May 28, 2013 7:15 pm 


LH

Hopkins was going to get stopped and he knew it, Calzaghe would of stopped him, had to take a breather.

Posted May 28, 2013 7:13 pm 


SREDMOND

Trying to explain to a NOVICE like Bears who did NOT even know what the Super 6 was till I broke it down to him close to a year ago is futile.. Everyone talks “workrate” its a good indicator of how active a fighter TYPICALLY is but is crashes and burns when you get in the ring with a superior opponent and it can WORK against you… Floyd Mayweather and Andre Ward are masters of making these SLOW, SLOPPY fighters pay for their “Work Rate” …. The more you let your hands go the MORE they counter you…If it was not so artistic it would have been pitiful watching Floyd cruelly counter Guerrero…. Even more shocking watching a fighter I gave almost NO chance (Rigondeaux) do the same thing to Donaire… Carl Froch is wild at times and he is painfully slow compared to Ward…. His workrate will plummet as his brain makes the connection between moving his hands and getting punched square in the face….Where were his 1100 punches last time they fought? Oh I know he has to be in England to get that off…. Ridiculous!

Posted May 28, 2013 7:12 pm 


LH

Calzaghe beat Hopkins easy, Hopkins cheated and he still could not win, watch the 10th round, it’s boxing, being sly, know your opponent,, NO, it was cheating, trying to get points deducted, shameful that was. Calzaghe won because he Hopkins with one of his styles, high work rate, 1000 punches, Hopins could not handle it.

Posted May 28, 2013 7:09 pm 


matthews

Haye, calzaghe, and Hatton all have something in common. They were all the men at there division in one point in time. So I guess we can put froch in the same breath as khan.

Posted May 28, 2013 7:03 pm 


PEEJ

Bears, look at anybody’s work rate against Ward. They don’t have the same work rate against him. Same with facing Hopkins. Look at Guerrero, he averages 70 punches a round, against Floyd he only averaged 40. So I will say Ward neutralized Dawson and the proceeded to beat him down.

Posted May 28, 2013 7:00 pm 


matthews

Fact. No matter how how many trinkets froch has he IS NOT the champ of the division and never will be. Even calslappy was the man at SMW and LHW. 2nd place is the first loser. I heard it was a dream of froch to fight in Vegas well tough guy what you waiting on. But if I had fans which were happy with me being 2nd best I would milk them too.

Posted May 28, 2013 6:59 pm 


Cayman Islands Killer

Ward is the goat..

Posted May 28, 2013 6:58 pm 


LH

Ward has got a boring style of fighting and he will not fight away, against Froch, that would be a massive fight, he will not do it, he is just confirming that he is a boring fighter, no one will pay for that.

Posted May 28, 2013 6:48 pm 


BEARS

Just look a chad d’s usal work rate/compubox and compare it to boiled down chad dawson at 168. It will confirm

Posted May 28, 2013 6:45 pm 


LH

Listen, when all has been said, Ward should fight Froch in the UK, he has the chance to beat Froch again, away, and if he wins he stops people talking about not fighting away, (international super six tournament) make alot of money and it will probably get him to PPV with HBO, possibly.

Posted May 28, 2013 6:42 pm 


SREDMOND

Fish Eyes, Ward has 2 wins outside the US one in St Lucia and the other in the Cayman Islands… He beat Froch up 3000 miles away from his hometown of Oakland and at the end of the day NONE of this matters because unless he gets Superman in the Ring with him he (Froch) is going to his grave with a loss to Andre Ward on his record…If he fights him again he’s going with 2 losses….

Posted May 28, 2013 6:27 pm 


LH

Don’t understimate Froch, you know you are joking anyway.

Posted May 28, 2013 6:26 pm 


SREDMOND

Shadow in the Hallway, I totally DON’T respect your perspective or ANY of those who make excuses for prime fighters taking losses.. You can try and sell your fantasy on here till your hearts content I am IMPOSSIBLE to influence because Dawson called out Ward at 168, he was badly defeated and in trouble EARLY and he took his loss like a MAN…. I deplore the avalanche of excuses that always come raining down AFTER a guy loses… Had Chad won NO ONE would have said anything sooner or later we have to let the results speak for themselves… Dawson was NOT some badly out of prime old fighter..He got destroyed case closed…. You gotta sell that BS to someone else I’m the wrong guy…

Posted May 28, 2013 6:22 pm 


LH

Froch beat Bute, Bute was over rated, if Ward had beat Bute over 12 rounds, it would be a different story, Ward beat a great fighter in Bute, Ward is great.

Posted May 28, 2013 6:22 pm 


matthews

Froch can’t beat Hopkins. Froch is exactly the style of fighter that makes the old man look great. That’s why Hopkins wants this fight so bad. Money and the style match up suited for him.

Posted May 28, 2013 6:13 pm 


matthews

Either way kessler and bute dont prepare you for ward and Hopkins. Besides ward coming off injury can’t take a tune up fight. And if he does fly to UK and whoop froch besides a decent check.what will it do for his legacy.

Posted May 28, 2013 6:10 pm 


LH

Froch beats Hopkins, Hopkins was 48 years old though, maybe Hopkins v Ward could fight, but that would knock one of them off.

Posted May 28, 2013 6:04 pm 


Fish Eyes

Unless Hopkins wants a fight with Ward.

Posted May 28, 2013 6:00 pm 


Fish Eyes

I think Froch should fight Ward next..

Posted May 28, 2013 6:00 pm 


matthews

I mean froch is a good fighter can’t take nothing away from him. I actually think it would be beneficial for him to take on Hopkins first to see if he has made any improvements as far as dealing with that fighting. Hopkins is willing to travel and that scalp would boost his resume. But on the flip side he could end up looking like pavlik in there.

Posted May 28, 2013 5:55 pm 


Fish Eyes

matthews…”Nothing. You said it for me.” Yup..

Posted May 28, 2013 5:48 pm 


LH

Hearn will phone Ward and be told, no, I am not fighting in the UK, when is Ward fighting next anyway, he is recovering or has just recovered from his injury, so he could have a come back fight, Froch could fight Kessler again, then it is set up for Ward v Froch.

Posted May 28, 2013 5:45 pm 


Fish Eyes

PS.. Thanks for calling me names matthews… That makes you look leet..

Posted May 28, 2013 5:44 pm 


matthews

Nothing. You said it for me.

Posted May 28, 2013 5:44 pm 


Fish Eyes

Well? What are you trying to say matthews?

Posted May 28, 2013 5:43 pm 


Fish Eyes

matthews..”Fish face here is a simple question. Who would win in a rematch between Ward and Froch in the UK?” .. Simple answer for you.. I think Ward would win. What does that have to do with the rest of my comments?

Posted May 28, 2013 5:41 pm 


matthews

Fish face here is a simple question. Who would win in a rematch between Ward and Froch in the UK?

Posted May 28, 2013 5:37 pm 


matthews

Ward got respect right now as the #1 man in the division. If he wants to travel that’s fine but he is not obligated to go to a challenger’s home who he already throughly schooled with one hand. That’s why hearn can’t find a phone because he knows he is gonna have to pay top dollar. There is always Hopkins but that would be a bad move by froch. Another schooling.

Posted May 28, 2013 5:35 pm 


Fish Eyes

matthews…”See that’s what the Europeans dont understand. Y’all seem to think that the whole US supports, blah, blah, blah, USA is big man.” .. Lol, yeah, Zzzzz.. I am sure ” Europeans” know that the USA is a big country.. We ALSO know, an American fighter, fighting in America, versus a none American fighter from the UK, is NOT a fight in a neutral location.. It’s a fight in America.. Only a retard would say otherwise..

Posted May 28, 2013 5:31 pm 


LH

Fighting in a different country, it’s a different environment, all sorts of things, it’s all new, it is not the same as fighting on the west coast or east cost of America, that is still the same country, so Ward should fight away, if he wins, he gets respect worldwide as well for fighting away.

Posted May 28, 2013 5:29 pm 


matthews

No only a retard would say flying over an ocean would affect a fighter. Damn that’s dumb.

Posted May 28, 2013 5:20 pm 


matthews

See that’s what the Europeans dont understand. Y’all seem to think that the whole US supports its fighters no matter where they travel because there from the same country. East coast and west coast are so damn different its unreal. You put a guy from Puerto Rico in against a guy from California in new York and the divan will have more support. Why? Because of the large Puerto Rican base on the east coast. Its probably like traveling from the west coast of Europe to the east coast. USA is big man.

Posted May 28, 2013 5:18 pm 


Fish Eyes

matthews..”By the way ward fought froch in AC. That’s 3000 miles away from his home.” still in his home “nation” though eh matthews? How many Oceans did Ward fly across for the Froch fight? “Air Miles” flown across the USA, by a US fighter, fighting in his home nation, versus a guy from the other side of the Atlantic, does not = neutral location.. Only a retard would say otherwise..

Posted May 28, 2013 5:10 pm 


LH

Ward fought in his own country, what has 3000 miles away from Oakland and 3000 miles away from UK got to do with anything, just another weak arguement.

Posted May 28, 2013 5:05 pm 


the ghost in the hallway

Sredmond why are you trying to tell me I’m wrong about something I know for a fact is 100% true? Chad was a shadow of himself for that fight . Like I said, he was so drained he was getting handled by novice pros during sparring every day throughout that camp. Lonnie B was lighting him up something serious. Chad was so pissed about it he refused to pay him. And Pantera put him own hard. Chad was so dizzy they had to cut the sparring dead right then and there. I’m telling you I know for a fact that wasn’t the real Chad in there. A stiff breeze would’ve knocked Chad out that night.

Posted May 28, 2013 5:00 pm 


matthews

They knew the terms of the super six and didn’t have any problems. By the way ward fought froch in AC. That’s 3000 miles away from his home.

Posted May 28, 2013 4:52 pm 


Fish Eyes

SREDMOND..”Lewis was the standing Champion,” A bit like Kessler and Froch were at the start of the super six?

Posted May 28, 2013 4:47 pm 


Fish Eyes

SREDMOND…”Tell Froch to vacate his wins on his home turf and we can discuss…” What about the 4 wins Froch has outside his home turf? Tell Ward to win one in the first place, then we can discuss, eh? … SREDMOND… “If you want to pretend that Froch beat Ward that’s certainly within a child’s right and at that age it’s encouraged!! Not acceptable in adults.” Nobody is saying that, we would just like to see a rematch, discuss…

Posted May 28, 2013 4:45 pm 


LH

It is not really acceptable for Ward to keep fighting on home turf, especially after the international super six tournament, there is a big fight for him against Froch and he will get paid very well.

Posted May 28, 2013 4:42 pm 


SREDMOND

Lewis was the standing Champion, and it was a huge upset McCall opted to eventually get paid and took his beating… I hope that Ward does go take Froch apart again but as the runaway winner of the first bout he should do it on his terms or those he’s comfortable with..

Posted May 28, 2013 4:39 pm 


SREDMOND

Tell Froch to vacate his wins on his home turf and we can discuss… Froch was dominated and Kessler was dominated in this conversation the opinions of their fans are vastly subordinate due to the inability to accept reality as it stands.. If you want to pretend that Froch beat Ward that’s certainly within a child’s right and at that age it’s encouraged!! Not acceptable in adults

Posted May 28, 2013 4:36 pm 


LH

Ward is injured anyway, Froch can fight Kessler again, Ward can have a comeback fight, then Ward v Froch.

Posted May 28, 2013 4:35 pm 


Fish Eyes

SREDMOND.. McCall EASILY beat Lewis first time out.. So I guess they should have never had had a rematch… Zzzzzzzz!

Posted May 28, 2013 4:35 pm 


LH

How about Ward v Hopkins then, if he won’t fight Froch.

Posted May 28, 2013 4:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Ward ALREADY beat Ward easy and if they don’t fight again history can simply reflect that… Now this BURNS BUTTHURT Froch fans and it eats at Froch but we can let the record stand and Froch got schooled by Ward… That’s why he’s talking another Kessler fight because it’s winnable Ward is practically ANOTHER guaranteed loss for Froch..

Posted May 28, 2013 4:33 pm 


Fish Eyes

SREDMOND..”Passports don’t block punches or make you a better fighter” Let Ward get his passport out to prove it…

Posted May 28, 2013 4:32 pm 


LH

Ward is just not comfortable fighting away from home and don’t go on about getting robbed by the judges, that is a weak arguement.

Posted May 28, 2013 4:31 pm 


SREDMOND

Passports don’t block punches or make you a better fighter… Carl Froch did not have an
Issue at the airport he had one in the ring with Ward…. Excuses don’t change results

Posted May 28, 2013 4:28 pm 


matthews

Has Hearn picked up the phone yet? Froch should stay away from Ward and Hopkins. Cherrypick fighters on his own skill level.

Posted May 28, 2013 4:28 pm 


Fish Eyes

SREDMOND.. Let Ward get is passport out.. Froch was fighting in the USA after 14 fights..

Posted May 28, 2013 4:21 pm 


Fish Eyes

“A war torn Kessler did 12 with him and had him buzzed… SOG is coming to hurt him..” So I guess the “OLDER than Kessler” Froch, was not “war torn” either..?

Posted May 28, 2013 4:20 pm 


LH

So Ward will beat Froch easy, so why doesn’t he come over and fight Froch and get multi millions for an easy fight?

Posted May 28, 2013 4:17 pm 


LH

Froch has been down once from memory and never really staggered, why would Ward stop him, Ward is more likely of the two to get knocked out of they fought.

Posted May 28, 2013 4:13 pm 


LH

Ward aint stopping Froch, he aint Chad Dawson, big difference.

Posted May 28, 2013 4:11 pm 


LH

Ward should fight Bute at 175, might find him difficult.

Posted May 28, 2013 4:10 pm 


SREDMOND

Who said Froch quit? I think he will go out on his shield.. BUT In the end he’s going OUT!! Via UD LOSS at best or his first stoppage… A war torn Kessler did 12 with him and had him buzzed… SOG is coming to hurt him..

Posted May 28, 2013 4:09 pm 


SREDMOND

Hey let 10,000 Brits fly to see Froch go down AGAIN like Ricky Hatton did against Floyd… All that singing and the boy got schooled And KOed in front of his family.. Froch will meet a similar fate, AGAIN either being badly outclassed or stopped… He’s an EASY fight for Andre Ward…

Posted May 28, 2013 4:06 pm 


Fish Eyes

SREDMOND..That was Dawson.. Did Froch quit like Dawson did when he fought Ward?

Posted May 28, 2013 4:04 pm 


SREDMOND

Peej, it’s ALWAYS the LOSERS with excuses putting out phony reports about camps ect… Dawson stood right in the ring after the Hopkins fight and called out Ward at 168… When that beating was laid on him the trashy ESB factions immediately try to mitigate the loss NOT for Dawson’s sake, but in order to downplay Wards GREAT and dominant TKO win..

Posted May 28, 2013 4:03 pm 


stuck in a moment

The fight would have to be in the Uk for it to make money and for Ward to get the money he deserves. It’s not the fault of ward that only bad boys are popular in today’s American boxing. Ward is not a popular fighter in America. The ratings for the super 6 were terrible in america and HBO was furious about the Ward / Dawson ratings. Maybe they could fight in Vegas and that way at least 10,000 Brits would show up.

Posted May 28, 2013 4:02 pm 


the public

Froch gets stopped in the rematch versus Ward. Outclassed is the correct term. Froch should fight Hopkins or rematch Kesller. Froch has done enough to retire.

Posted May 28, 2013 3:59 pm 


the ghost in the hallway

Dawson was a dead man when he fought Dre. He was so weak and drained he was getting beat up by novices and ktfo by shot fighters during camp. Lonnie B was lighting him up everytime they sparred hand Pantera smoked him and almost put him to sleep. I saw the video and he was hurt real bad.

Posted May 28, 2013 3:47 pm 


PEEJ

Dawson called out Ward and told him I will meet you at 168. That’s not Wards fault that is Dawson’s fault. The whole time never once did he say it was difficult making the weight. You notice only losers come out with excuses. I’m not a fan of Dawson anyways. He lost me as a fan after he fought Pascal and during the interview went on to say that he could care less about what the fans thought

Posted May 28, 2013 2:41 pm 


BEARS

I’ll give chad dawsons boiled down scalp 50%-75% its value. Probably closer to 50%. Everyone was talking about this being a problem. It was all over hbo 24/7. I remember us talking about here at this site. Ward wussed out if you ask me. People are now calling for him to fight at light heavyweight

Posted May 28, 2013 2:32 pm 


te tumbo

i’ve never been particularly impressed by Froch. i won’t begrudge him his wins. not even his win v. Dirrell that featured a dastardly hometown performance by a rabbit-punching Froch even while he was being outclassed in spurts by Dirrelll. Bute was a Huuuuge BUST. Kessler is a solid opponent but he’s also uber-conventional without the threat of ring-smarts or craft for an opponent to worry about. Ward possesses the ring-smarts, craft, and class to dominate Froch once again. in fact, he’s already done it once and i didn’t see a single additional wrinkle to Froch’s fight-game that would lead me to believe he can improve on his last impotent performance. Froch may very well “know” what it takes to defeat Ward but he could never actually execute such a fight-plan in a boxing ring, which reduces his claim to deceptive, albeit wiser, bluster.

Posted May 28, 2013 2:30 pm 


BEARS

Dawsons pretty good when he fights at his weight. We all knew boiling down was gonna problem. Dawsn didn’t even looks the same. Everyone pretty much points to ward not being willing to fight dawson at 175. This seriously detracts from wards win. Not only can we credit ward with nothing gained on a light heavyweight fighter (they didn’t fight light heavy) we can’t credit him with any LHW wins. I felt dawson wasn’t the same fighter boiled down. It was pretty weak on wards part. And pretty revealing that he felt he had to make dawson come down rather than fight at LHW. So trying to talk dawson up at light heavy and then say ward somehow absorbs all of dawsons accomplishments or all off dawsons accomplishments at light heavy come with his scalp when its boiled down. Naaaaaaw I don’t think so. What ward reaped was a “BOILED DOWN” scalp. Go fight at light heavy and se what happens

Posted May 28, 2013 2:24 pm 


Mma fighter

Sure

Posted May 28, 2013 2:22 pm 


NBK

Anonymous – you wouldn’t happen to be the M1cha3l C011ins would you? when you have finished dribbling over your keyboard do some history. If you are living in the US and not of African or Hispanic descent, guess what your ancestors were probably the same bunch your refer to! The only difference is they probably had a brain, whereas you have digressed to sharing a braincell with the rest of your family.

Posted May 28, 2013 2:03 pm 


SREDMOND

MK, your dream of “Ward not being able to take a punch” is as usual NOT SUBSTANTIATED with facts… He has NOT lost since he was 12, won Olympic Gold, Super 6, Ring Championship at 168 and whipped Froch, Kessler and Dawson two of whom had EARLY showers… Carl Froch is NOT some monster puncher he’s got good power, very good fitness and a very good beard…Where was his KO power when he had a one handed Ward in front of him last time??? I know, I know he cannot bring it thru customs so it’s only on display in the UK? Or against a badly flawed fighter like Jermaine Taylor who had him on the canvas and losing going into the 12th round before Cobra Carl found the answer?? In all honesty I’m confident that Ward could beat Kessler with his terrible balance and Froch with his slow hands and wide open approach on the SAME night losing maybe 5 rounds in the whole process… He’s P4P #2 in the world for damn good reason we saw him dust BOTH guys…

Posted May 28, 2013 1:51 pm 


KOrnerman

ha yeah and he’s a world champ and your a frickin NOBODY TOOL

Posted May 28, 2013 1:46 pm 


SREDMOND

Ward stopped Chad Dawson who has been in with the tough old guard and WON… He was in with future HW Adamek and whipped him at 175.. Against Ward he was bouncing off the canvas and forced to QUIT…He chopped Kessler up with only 20 fights under his belt and had an easy night with Froch sporting a bad hand…He has discussed beginning to look for KO’s more and I’d he fights in the UK by chance I’m sure he knows it’s best to punish the WIDE open Froch to the point where the judges are NOT part of the conversation… Odds favor a wide UD because Froch has a good chin and he dialed it down when he saw he could not win the first bout but I would not be at all surprised to see Froch giving a broken hearted Ricky Hatton style interview postfight… Replete with misty eyes and retirement talk…

Posted May 28, 2013 1:41 pm 


Uncommon

What are you talking about ??? Ward travelled to Atlantic City to fight Froch. There is no way Ward should or will travel to the UK to fight Froch. Ward is the Champ and he determines where they will fight not Froch. As far as Ward no taking a punch I could not disagree with you more he had problems early on in his career, but has not had an issue with any of the “heavy Hitters” in Froch or Kessler. Since he and Virgil corrected his game plan and strength issues.

Remember, Froch could not hurt Ward last time out and Froch won’t be able to hurt him if they fight again. Froch just doesn’t stick to his corners game plan and his undisciplined nature against a smart Ward will cost him every time.

Posted May 28, 2013 1:01 pm 


china_khan

There is no doubt that Ward would defeat Froch again should they have a rematch, but lets not get carried away Ward will NEVER win by KO. Ward failed to stop human punching bags Edison Miranda and Allen Green who have both been kayoed numerous times.

I admit that Ward is a superior talent but he really does need to stop acting so smug and take a fight outside of the USA, prove that you are the greatest by getting out of your comfort zone.

Posted May 28, 2013 12:56 pm 


PEEJ

Yes Bear that was me calling Ward the best light heavy even though he had never fought there. He just beat the light heavyweight champion rather easy. So in my eyes he is the best until proven otherwise

Posted May 28, 2013 11:59 am 


Steve

@SREDMOND I cant see how you think Froch doesn’t want Ward. I also think there is mileage in either fight, Ward or Kessler. I expect Ward to win the fight, but wouldn’t be surprised if Froch actually turned the guy over, as you said Froch is a world class fight and as such should not be written off…

Posted May 28, 2013 11:42 am 


SREDMOND

Froch, far from sucks he’s a World Class fighter and Champion he’s just NOT on Wards level and that was proved in a boxing ring despite the glaucoma and excuses in play with Froch
And his fans… I actually hope they do fight again, Ward deserves an easy payday coming of thrashing Dawson and an injury…

Posted May 28, 2013 10:38 am 


Adrian

Lol in other words sredmond wants to say “froch sucks but ward is perfect and there is no need for him to fight anyone” lol

Posted May 28, 2013 10:27 am 


SREDMOND

Froch claims “he knows how to beat Ward” meanwhile after the fight he said “I watched tapes of Ward vs Kessler to figure out how to win” who’s tapes did he watch to see how to beat Ward?? He and Kessler losing to Ward?? Carl Froch’s confidence about defeating SOG is not real, he discussed him “not being a brawler” and openly said “I’m not saying I can beat Andre Ward” but blah,blah,blah…. This posturing is NOTHING new that’s why he’s discussing a 3rd fight with a waning Kessler as opposed to really wanting Ward to take him down again… Froch is a shamefully easy payday for Ward…

Posted May 28, 2013 10:03 am 


SREDMOND

Malachi, you’re 100% right they are praying for a raucous crowd to influence the scoring look at that FAR too wide 118-110 or
Something like that for Froch the other night but Wards one of the smartest boxers around and if he goes to the UK he knows he gonna need to either beat Froch within an inch of his life or STOP HIM which he’s capable of IMO….Ward has not lost sine he was 12 And that streaks not gonna get snapped by Carl Frochs “talk game” or the prayers of his fans… Ward Singlehandedly scared Froch out of the US… After losing to a fighter with a damages hand like that he probably thought he was under the influence of a voodoo hex…

Posted May 28, 2013 9:40 am 


SREDMOND

HaHaHa “Froch destroy Ward” MK the fight prophet that he is was touting Kesslers chances against Froch now that Mikkel has comeup short he is now hailing Froch who has already been defeated as “the man to defeat Ward” beating an oft injured Mikkel Kessler is nothing when juxtaposed against beating a healthy Ward which Froch never faced and still got blown out by… Kessler was hitting the deck against a lame fighter like Allan Greene who was knocked out by an 80 year old Glen Johnson and he still buzzed Froch on more than one occasion… Froch is EASY EASY work for Ward, I would seriously give Sakio Bika a slightly better shot, Carl Froch has shown no improvements he’s the SAME wide open fighter with a slow, easily countered jab… Wards punching harder and knocked out the BEST opponent of his career last fight… I hope this bout comes off so we can see a TRUE boxing master show the sport is NOT just about reckless slugging…

Posted May 28, 2013 9:32 am 


MK

The few Ward fans know what would happen, if Ward came to England to fight the animal Froch. There would be no dancing around the ring, picking up a check afterwards, Froch would destroy him.

A european referee, would stop the holding, and any dirty tactics, from Ward. This would allow a real boxing match to develop, where Ward would take huge punches from Froch, he can’t handle that.

As I said after the Froch vs Kessler fight 2 fight, I think that Froch vs Ward 2 will happen now, in England.

Ward has nowhere to go, but Lhw.

Posted May 28, 2013 8:58 am 


De-be

Ward is in an entirely different class of B.O.R.I.N.G !

Posted May 28, 2013 8:09 am 


SACTOWN SAVAGE

I am a ward fan that lives in the bay area. I think he should go to the UK and box circles around Froch. Get his paycheck and more exposure on HBO. That will set him up in the future for matches agains GGG or Chavez Jr.

Posted May 28, 2013 5:46 am 


BEARS

wasnt that PEEJ calling ward the best light heavyweight and ward has never even fought at the weight?……lOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

Posted May 28, 2013 5:30 am 


Adrian

Peej>here you go!CHAMPION: Saul Alvarez

Country: Mexico
Record: 42-0-1 (30 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: C | Last Week: C | Weeks On List: 129
Title: RING, WBC, WBA

Posted May 28, 2013 5:24 am 


Adrian

Peej wrote”PEEJ

Mayweather has the Ring belt at 147 not 154. Canelo is the Ring champ at 154. He got the belt after the decision victory of Trout. If it does indeed say what you said Bear then it is a typo or mistake. Floyd won the Ring belt against Guerrero again. He never actually lost the Ring belt but the stripped him of it when he retired briefly”

Dude wtf are you talking about?? Bear is saying canelo has a ring belt AT 154 ! Now how can mayweather get a ring belt at 154 by beating Guerrero ?? Bear is talking about a ring belt at 154 not about p4p …see this the same thing you were arguing about a “ring” belt at ww when mayweather fought baldomir…

Posted May 28, 2013 5:19 am 


OneInchPunch

Ward might be the best SMW and no 2 in the P4P ranking…. but he’s not in the class of Kessler or Ward regarding I’ll fight any one anywhere. Whereas these two worriers travelled as champions to face a challenger in his own curtsy. Ward on the other hand is sacred to travel outside the USA. Big respect to Kessler for fighting Froch in his own country. One thing that stood out for me at the O2 on Saturday was Ward could not fill an arena like this… Sold out with-in three hours of going on sale… Ward could not sell out this arena if the tickets were on sale for three years!! Carl is right… ward should grow some balls and fights outside the USA. He might be the best SMW and no 2 in the P4P but he’s achieved this by being a spoilt little boy who has refused to come out and play outside his comfort zone at home.

Posted May 28, 2013 5:13 am 


Adrian

Peej– I thought we were debating? Arguing with idiots? Now that I don’t call debating I call that calling out names just because I don’t agree with what you said… I haven’t call you any names and saying I do t have any concept of the history of boxing you are than delusional because you were the one tonight who got your facts wrong like saying “gati fought mayweather at 147 pounds” and you admited it plus said PAC ducked morales and never gave him a third fight ,wich everyone knows PAC destroyed morales in their third fight..lol

But that’s it if start insulting than have at it be my guess but forget they you wil have a pleasure of debating with me again dude!

Posted May 28, 2013 5:10 am 


Mick the Marmalizer

If Matchroom & GBP organize this right it could be the biggesat night in British boxing! Froch/Ward to top the bill, with Adran Broner vs Ricky Burns as chief support. Kell Brook could hope for Devon Alexander Or Paul Mallignaggi. The list goes on, but it would have to be Twickenham or Wembley on PPV.

Posted May 28, 2013 4:28 am 


steve

@SREDMOND. I have said it before, you’re nothing more than an armchair pugilist who shows no respect for the MEN (not including you) who step into the ring.

Posted May 28, 2013 4:15 am 


SREDMOND

Froch is a very good, blue collar fighter but he’s NOT in Wards class by a LONG shot and another bout is simply a payday.. Against Ward, Froch or Kelly Pavlik are interchangeable from a skills perspective..

Posted May 28, 2013 3:53 am 


choky

i like froch and respect him a lot but anybody who thinks that he Will beat ward does not know boxing

Posted May 28, 2013 3:53 am 


SREDMOND

Canelos standing in the sport is sooooo far beneath
Mayweathers it’s comical.. Canelos A very good young fighter and Floyd’s an ATG, consensus P4P #1 and the most highly compensated athlete in the world.. It only makes sense that Alvarez dreams of being a fraction as successful as FMJ…

Posted May 28, 2013 3:52 am 


choky

i like froch and respect him a lot but anybody Who thinks he Will beat ward does not know boxing

Posted May 28, 2013 3:51 am 


SREDMOND

Canelo is champion at 154, who really cares? Floyd’s NEVER campained at 154, he had 2 fights there in 17 years that ONLY shows he is the WW Champion despite ONE VISIT to 154 in the past 5 years… Thanks for making that point Bears!

Posted May 28, 2013 3:48 am 


Mick the Marmalizer

Andre”SOG”Ward/Froch(The Cobra”Froch II could be massive this Summer @ a major London Stadium & generate more “CA$H MON£Y” then any fight out there. Now before anyone mentions Nottingham just remember the 1st fight took place @ Atlantic city & not Oakland CA so fair’s fair. As it stands Ward is the #1 @ 168Lb but seems to fight less every year which gives Carl a great chance of revenge. The only other possible fight for Andre maybe WBO title holder Stiglietz if he still holds a belt. Regarding a Froch/Groves match up this year this is piffle as George needs at least another 4-5 fights! South African (IBO Trinket holder) Thomas Oosthuizen is also in the equation + James Degale seems to have risen a level. For me it has to be Ward/Froch II in London or Froch/Kessler II on neutral ground, maybe MSG next. Oosthuizen, Groves, Degale, Abraham. Bika, M.A.Peribar & Stieglitz could all make for good elimination contests.

Posted May 28, 2013 3:30 am 


PEEJ

Mayweather has the Ring belt at 147 not 154. Canelo is the Ring champ at 154. He got the belt after the decision victory of Trout. If it does indeed say what you said Bear then it is a typo or mistake. Floyd won the Ring belt against Guerrero again. He never actually lost the Ring belt but the stripped him of it when he retired briefly

Posted May 28, 2013 2:48 am 


PEEJ

Yeah it’s getting pretty annoying arguing with that dude Adrien. You should see me and him going back and forth on the Pac article before this one. He tries to skew the past to make whatever he says to be the truth. He is ridiculous and has no concept of history or really the fight game. I like debating with people but arguing with idiots is just ridiculous and I’m not sure why I entertain them. Guess cause I’m bored.

Posted May 28, 2013 2:46 am 


BEARS

Interesting, ring magazine at jr. middle has canelo listed as champion and mayweather listed as number one challenger and mayweather has the wbc and ring title at the weight. LOL!!!!!!!

Posted May 28, 2013 2:44 am 


SREDMOND

Peej, they are just looking for some avenue to victory, the desperation is obvious Ward spanking their guys beyond all doubt has left some VERY sour.. I cannot wait till he deals out his next round of beatings…

Posted May 28, 2013 2:40 am 


SREDMOND

Froch is talking up the fight which is good because it happens he’s going to lose and lose terribly… Frankly this is an EASY fight and payday for Ward, guys can yank themselves off talking about “the UK” “Workrate” and “Videotape” but come fight night talent and a winning spirit will prevail and prevail brutally… Frochs is Soooooo open and easy to dissect for Andre Ward this is not gonna be a “feel good story” or guys singing “theres only one Carl Froch” this will be a version of Mayweather vs Hatton… Carl Froch is a guy who struggles with the best he faces, Ward crushes the best he faces, his wins over Dawson, Froch and a much fresher Kessler trump anything Carl has done by plenty… I’m psyched to see Froch take a well deserves beating, since “Wards do boring”‘ let’s see Froch take his “0”….

Posted May 28, 2013 2:38 am 


PEEJ

And it don’t matter what the writer wrote its what Ward said

Posted May 28, 2013 2:35 am 


PEEJ

Ok whatever dude. You have no clue. Ward said he had a broken hand and nobody has said he was lying or proved that he was lying. Just cause you don’t believe him don’t mean squat. So until proven otherwise ill take his word for it. So I guess I’m saying I could care less what you believe or what your opinion is. My believe is he broke his hand before the fight, showed a true champions heart and went through with the fight like Rou Jobes had before and same with Floyd did when he injured his shoulder a couple weeks before the first Castillo fight.

Posted May 28, 2013 2:34 am 


Adrian

Gati had a Brocken hand late in a fight against a undefited Danish fighter I forgot his name at the moment but he wasn’t using it because you could clearly see he couldn’t even move it!

Posted May 28, 2013 1:59 am 


Adrian

Lol ..yes he didn’t have a Brocken hand before the fight hell I don’t know if he had a Brocken hand during a fight because he was still using it but anyway its posible to have a Brocken hand during a fight but there is no way this guys who wrote this article can fool anyone by claimiming ward had a Brocken hand before the fight that’s pure bs!!!

Posted May 28, 2013 1:56 am 


PEEJ

I thought you said he didn’t have a broken hand.

Posted May 28, 2013 1:30 am 


Adrian

Peej– what did I say ? I said having a Brocken hand “BEFORE”the fight is not posible to throw punches with a Brocken hand because the hands is not warmed up like during the fight but even than most of the time they don’t use it because they can’t !

Whoever said he took a fight with a Brocken hand and used it like ward obviously did is lying like a m…fuccccker!

Posted May 28, 2013 1:17 am 


PEEJ

Roy Jones had a broken hand in one of his fights. Some fighters can fight through pain like that.

Posted May 28, 2013 12:37 am 


huckster

Froch has an itch that maybe he won’t be able to scratch, but he sure might convince himself that he can. He is itching to change that loss against Ward. Who knows? Just maybe Ward is feeling confident about a money maker on Brit soil. That’s a lot of money.

Posted May 28, 2013 12:34 am 


Adrian

He broke his hand* before the fight …typo

Posted May 28, 2013 12:18 am 


Adrian

He broke the before the fight????? Wtf ??? How stupid do you think people are to believe you can take a fight with a “Brocken “and manage to use it???? It’s a different storry if he had an injured hand but Brocken hand???? Come on sell that somewhere else not here!!!!

Posted May 28, 2013 12:17 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

EVERYONE knows how to beat Ward. Just land the most effective Punches in the Fight. SOUNDS easy. But that’s why knowing is LESSER than DOING.

Posted May 28, 2013 12:06 am 


Chuckles72

In my heart, I want to say that Ward’s still the guy to beat – but where the heck had he been? His last fight was against Dawson – possibly the dumbest fighter in the division – in September 2012 and before that …. Froch in Dec 2011. Yeah, yeah, I know he hurt his shoulder but who was he training for when he hurt it – Pavlik? C’mon!

Still, if Ward is back to even 85% pre-injury capacity, he will defeat Froch unless Froch comes into the ring with a totally new game plan. Unless he radically changed his stance, Froch’s right would basically need some sort of bionic overhaul to do anything against Ward, but I think that he could turn that weirdo left into more of a weapon – possibly add some meaningful hooks into the repertoire – those jabs have some mustard on them but if they are all Ward has to look out for on the left, he’s more than capable of dealing with them.

I’d like to see these guy fight again to a) reassure me that Ward is still the legit guy to beat and b) see if Froch can actually come up with something new.

Posted May 28, 2013 12:02 am 


malachi

all of you cats who are agreeing for ward to fight on the other side knows for a fact that froch can not beat ward unless they flat out rob ward on frochs home turf,you clowns would love to crown an unworthy victor wouldn’t you?!?!?..yeezzziir!

Posted May 27, 2013 10:04 pm 


malachi

froch is def disrespecting the king theres no way froch can beat ward at all unless he gets the judges on his side and he and his team knows this ,I lost a lot of respect for froch because of his wack
demand..no way he beats ward over here or over there but over there he’s sure to come out the victor…yezzzir!

Posted May 27, 2013 10:00 pm 


Nytol

Hopkins v Ward, snooze fest.

Posted May 27, 2013 10:00 pm 


PEEJ

Bite got harped on for fighting C and B level fighters and claiming he was the best. It’s easy to look good against lesser comp.

Posted May 27, 2013 9:59 pm 


PEEJ

Ward didn’t have home advantage when he fought Froch the first time. They didn’t even fight in Cali, I think they fought in New Jersey

Posted May 27, 2013 9:58 pm 


malachi

they will rob ward blind if he goes over there unless he gets a knockout ,so ward would be pretty brave to take that fight everybody knows these facts…yezzir!

Posted May 27, 2013 9:52 pm 


Fight

Bute gave up home advantage, he was getting stick for fighting in Montreal all the time, didn’t have to fight in Nottingham, but did, because he is a fighter, what is the difference with Andre Ward, he has to fight away now.

Posted May 27, 2013 8:58 pm 


Ward v Hopkins

Why not.

Posted May 27, 2013 8:39 pm 


Wez

Everyone said Froch and Hearn all mouth, would duck both Ward and Hopkins.

Looks like they’re right

Posted May 27, 2013 8:37 pm 


Wez

Froch wants to take on a finished Kessler a 3rd time. Come on man – lets see a different fight, if no Ward then B-Hop

Posted May 27, 2013 8:35 pm 


HBO

Showtime, edit.

Posted May 27, 2013 8:31 pm 


HBO

Ward v Dawson sold 7600 tickets, gate receipts $750,000, and watched by viewers of 1.3 million, (not PPV) HBO said it was adequate.

Posted May 27, 2013 8:31 pm 


gold

@fight….Frochs lack of respect towards Ward is not earning him any brownie points with him. “If” Froch took his loss with class, THEN asked Ward to cross the pond, THEN I think Ward would oblige….maybe not – who knows!, but Froch is being very disrespectful in a real way, not in a promotional slap stick kinda way. Yes, Ward can go over, but he doesnt have to, because the fight WAS NOT close. Froch is talking more about having the remedy to beat Ward than EVER BEFORE, well let him take his arrogance to new heights by beating him here – like he prides himself on doing: beating guys in their own backyard.

Posted May 27, 2013 8:28 pm 


Fight

In front of 4000, packed out hall.

Posted May 27, 2013 8:23 pm 


Fight

Who will Ward fight next in Oakland, after his latest injury heals,.

Posted May 27, 2013 8:19 pm 


Fight

American boxing fans should tell Ward that he has to fight away, force it, he is a very good fighter, so he should not have a problem fighting Froch in the UK, he will earn more money, and get that respect worldwide, Ward and co will have to listen eventually, so do it now.

Posted May 27, 2013 8:08 pm 


Truth Teller

The only way Froch beats Ward is if he gets gifted a decision…and why should Ward have to fight in Froch’s backyard when he beat Froch decisively and he is the man at 168? I’d rather see Ward move to 175 at this point and unify the titles at light heavy. He’s already beaten the top guys at super middle so what’s left for him there? The only fight that interests me at this current point in time for Ward at 168 would be if Calzaghe came out of retirement to fight him…and we all know fighting a future Hall of Fame fighter while he is in his prime has never been Calzaghe’s style so that will never happen…especially now that Slappy is now old himself and retired for years.

Posted May 27, 2013 8:06 pm 


Fight

Ward is the captain of the who needs him club, Froch can fight Kessler again for the third fight, a trilogy, Ward can come over to the UK and earn resect by fighting away and earn alot of money, Boxing is a sport and business, it is up to Ward, does he want to fight Froch and give up home advantage?, I don’t think he will do that.

Posted May 27, 2013 7:47 pm 


hookoffthejab

The only boxer with the “skill” to beat Ward is BHOP !!!!

Posted May 27, 2013 7:34 pm 


flash knock down

I am the biggest Frosh fan in the world he knows and anyon e who knows anything about boxing knows that he can not beat Ward. If Frosh knew he was going to fight Ward in two months he would retire. I am not saying this to be funny Ward is a very bad man. You can call him boring can’t draw ppv, wont fight out side the US use what ever excuse you want . No one want’s to fight Ward because he is just like Mayweather a very schooled fighter . Frosh you know damn well you will never fight you had your chance to beat him when you fought the first time don’t talk about what you can do after the fact not cool just remember we have the tape you got killed.

Posted May 27, 2013 7:12 pm 


Shane

Froch had a bad night against Ward because he was outclassed by a much better fighters. He looked better vs LESSER opposition in a shot MK and hype job Bute. It is laughable that the Froch fans think THE CHAMPION that already beat Froch with one arm easily needs to prove himself. Froch is a challenger ….nothing more. Challengers ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE SOMETHING TO PROVE.

Posted May 27, 2013 7:12 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah it is stupid, I am a white guy and I am a boxing fan, whether I like a certain fighter and he is a certain race should mean nothing. And people wonder why racism is still around. I actually wrote a paper like that when I was in college, or when I was attending community college I should say. lol

Posted May 27, 2013 7:08 pm 


TG

Ward is number 2 p4p, yet he can’t draw, still not fighting on PPV.

Posted May 27, 2013 5:47 pm 


Shane

He runs his mouth while his promoter is running to fight anyone BUT Ward. BTW, Ward beat him easily with one hand. Froch must be a damn idiot or is b everyone talking about how he “knows” something. He knows he was soundly defeated by a one armed fighter. A two armed Ward he has the answers though? Lmao. I know how to beat him too Carl and the only component you have in that equation is two arms. You are missing the rest.

Posted May 27, 2013 5:32 pm 


big mike

Yeah, home town cheater judges . Worked on Dirrell.

Posted May 27, 2013 5:31 pm 


PEEJ

If they where to fight again Ward would beat Froch even worse. Bad thing is Froch says he knows how to beat him, well he beat you with a broken hand. What will you do if he has 2 good fists on him? You only know how to now make adjustments against a 1 handed fighter, he now has 2 hands so anything you do know will need to go out the window right nowl.

Posted May 27, 2013 5:29 pm 


Hon

tachyon oh sorry for not going into boxing detail. The guy Ward is boring BORING !!!! He sucks.

Posted May 27, 2013 5:25 pm 


Ben Hill

put Golovkin in front of Froch and it will be the end of Froch legendary iron chin! KO3!

Posted May 27, 2013 5:12 pm 


Hrdknx

No you don’t. Well maybe you know what it will take to beat him but you have none of those things. I like the “cobra” has not wasted a dime of my money being one of the few ppl who actually pay for a fight, big heart and never backs down from a challenge. But Carl, you can’t beat “S O G” EVER!! But you have done well for your family and career. Less than 1% of the active pro fighters can achieve what you have done. And that is something to be proud of. But bro…you won’t win. Fight Hopkins next, make a crap load of money and then fight ward and retire rich. Just stay away from the dope like hatton and calzage and you will have a happy life of relaxation and work free.

Posted May 27, 2013 5:07 pm 


Ben Hill

and Froch have fears to fight Hopkins at 170 pounds ???? What a joke! Hopkins is 47! Calzaghe jump to the light heavyweight division to fight a “young” Hopkins! Froch a warrior? my %ss!

Posted May 27, 2013 5:03 pm 


TG

Ward is very beatable.

Posted May 27, 2013 5:01 pm 


Firestarter

@ Ben Hill, but you are a troll

Posted May 27, 2013 5:00 pm 


qwert

I know how to beat Ward. I just have to be faster, smarter, hit harder, have better reflexes and make better adjustments during the fight than Ward. Shame I can’t do any of those, but I know how to beat him.

Posted May 27, 2013 4:56 pm 


Ben Hill

Kessler is a wannabe warrior and Froch a very poor boxer, them two and Bute are pure jokes in front of Andre Ward, seriously
and i’m not an american

Posted May 27, 2013 4:52 pm 


NBK

thats three of my posts deleted. 2nd2nunn even responded to one before it got taken down.There was nothing inflammatory!

Posted May 27, 2013 4:37 pm 


The Judge

Ward will KO Froch early and end all doubt.

Posted May 27, 2013 4:15 pm 


Harry

Money to be gotten. lol

Speak english boy!

Posted May 27, 2013 4:11 pm 


Boxer

I bet you hon thinks broners the goat lol, and froch I love your confidence but in a rematch with ward you’d get stopped, I mean ward was catching froch with lead left hooks the first fight, again love the confidence but ward is just the best.

Posted May 27, 2013 3:56 pm 


tachyon

Hon you on crack? In the first fight it was jab right hands to Froch’s dome.

Posted May 27, 2013 3:45 pm 


dwc

Yes why would Hearn not want to promote a huge money fight like Froch..Ward..2.It does seem stupid of Hearn,however if Froch really wants it it will happen.But as much as I respect Froch I just dont see him beating Ward.Ward would really have to be dead on his feet in the end rounds for Froch to take advantage of him,and I belive Ward is to good and smart for that Ward knows how to pace himself.

Posted May 27, 2013 3:27 pm 


Hon

This Ward Froch II fight is a dud. Wards wins by jab, jab and jab, clinch, jab in and out, clinch and clinch hold again. All to boring.

Posted May 27, 2013 3:24 pm 


2nd2nunn

@ NBK – I wondered why my criticisms of this douchebag didn’t get through. When I think about it I did mention his name. Amazing that ESB clearly known what everyone thinks of this guy, yet continue to let him pump out the articles.

Posted May 27, 2013 3:17 pm 


TARK

….., “I don’t think Froch’s promoter Hearn will allow him to fight Ward again.” … That’s stupid. If Froch wants to fight Ward he will fight Ward. Ward-Froch is THE fight and Froch is the fighter, not Hean. The type of fighter who would go well against Ward is a Michael Spinks type all-around master.. Great solid stance… great jab… lethal short right hand that strikes with lightning speed… ripping left hooks and right uppercuts to the body… short left and right uppercuts to the chin that are super sneaky… super tight defense… high work rate…

Froch certainly has got the work rate and endurance.. He has a little bit of the size and strength MS had.. He has the same chin and toughness.. His jab isn’t too bad.. But his pathetic stance sucks. His defense is leaky. His short right hand lacks lethality. He doesn’t have much of a body attack. His right uppercut is thrown from the upper deck. His overhand right is launched from the cheap seats. He threw some nice tight combinations to Kessler’s head, but without any balance or fluidity where he could follow up and finish … In brief, he’s got a long way to go to become a master — and a short time to get there.

Posted May 27, 2013 3:11 pm 



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