That’s because mayweather won’t fight someone that can beat him.Posted June 14, 2013 6:41 am
Some of you guys are so hard up to find a fighter any fighter who you think can beat floyd that you say the dumbest things. I think Floyd made it clear that he is fighting his last fights at 147. If Canelo wants it and I hope he does it needs to be at 147. Just like Mayweather came up to DLH’s wieght.Posted May 22, 2013 4:57 pm
upon further review, PUBLIC ENEMA may have a point(?!). it’s obvious that only the ropes are peventing Alvarez from hitting the deck or at least bending his knee a’la Miguel Cotto. i’m ashamed to admit that a douche like Enema saw this first . . . (lol).Posted May 16, 2013 10:39 am
Mayweather is not going to fight Canelo. Trust me. He will probably fight either Alexander or Kahn.Posted May 15, 2013 4:20 pm
Gonzo of Nazareth
Public Enema… Actually, after a second viewing, not only could the ref have deemed that a knock down, but I think there’s also good grounds for him stopping the fight due to the look of sheer cowardice and fear etched across Canelo’s face. I can definitely see ‘No Mas’ in his eyes. lolPosted May 15, 2013 10:45 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
Thanks Ernie. That said, I would still be wise beyond my years even if I was a 1000 years old. lolPosted May 15, 2013 10:42 am
canelo should forget floyd. He needs to fight Lara-perro winner or cotto on September 14th. Or even martyrosian. Good luck on Floyd reaching more than 1 million ppv buys fighting guys like guerrero.Posted May 14, 2013 11:14 pm
I am not a big fan of Mayweather but the man always comes to fight and always in shape and with his technical skills and hand speed, I think he would prove too much for young Canelo. Personally I think that a Mayweather-Kahn match up would be a better matchup.Posted May 14, 2013 7:19 pm
Te Tumbo Made Me Do It
@ Enema, did you cry when Ponce De Leon made Orlando Cruz quit with a tap to his belly? I hear he spit up a lot of jizz in the locker room later.Posted May 14, 2013 6:33 pm
Mayweather is going to make Cinnabum cry like Victor Ortiz and Marquez..Posted May 14, 2013 3:47 pm
Canelo couldn’t take out feather fisted trout, old man Mosely, Cottos C level brother.. what makes you believe he can take out Floyd???Posted May 14, 2013 3:46 pm
I cant wait till Mayweather gets hit by Canelo and does the SOUL TRAIN dance like Trout……Listen.. if this was an easy fight for Mayweather he would off signed that contract days ago, Canelo would give problems to ANYBODY he fights… his that good, OH I forgot that those same doubters that said Trout was going to school him are hating again.Posted May 14, 2013 1:29 pm
Cinnabum looks like he’s about to cry in that picture.. LOLPosted May 14, 2013 11:31 am
Webster – When was the last time Canelo fought at 154lbs?? He’s never walked into a ring fight night weighing 154lbs.. He’s always come in at 172+lbs and over… Hardly a fair fight against the naturally smaller guys.. if he can’t make 154lbs without Ballooning up to a Super Middleweight or make 147 safely he needs to get his Cheating Butt up to his true Weight class and fight guys his size like Sergio Martinez and Quinlin…Posted May 14, 2013 11:09 am
Gonzo – agree, looks like the Rope are keeping Cinnabum on his feet.. not sure what you meant about the PR Referree??Posted May 14, 2013 11:07 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
Public Enema.. It looked like the ropes were keeping Canelo up there to me.. a Puerto Rican referee might have ruled that a knock down. lolPosted May 14, 2013 10:41 am
FM took on DLH at 154 years ago, long before he was settled in at 154, hell, he weighed 150 on fight night. Cotto was an established champ at 154, too, and probably fighting at his best weight in his career. I think FM needs to go up to 154. At least Khan isn’t being mentioned anymore.Posted May 14, 2013 10:12 am
FM has the all the negotiating power in this fight. I would rather it be at 154 because I doubt Canelo can hit 147. At the end of the day, even he does make weight, he’ll still be a LHW on fight night, so the weigh in won’t matter at all. I think FM should go to 154 and take that championship as well. He’d be one of the few champs to hold and defend the championship in two divisions. That would be impressive, no matter who you root for.Posted May 14, 2013 10:09 am
You beat me to the post Webster I was thinking the samePosted May 14, 2013 10:05 am
Floyd just fought Cotto at 154. When is the last time Alvarez fought at 147? Floyd is a genius at getting out of the tough fights and selling the easy ones. If you want to keep shelling out $70 a pop to watch one sided beat downs against blown up featherweights and shot fighters, more power to you. As long as you do, Mayweather will have no reason to take on a live challenge. Floyd will never fight a tough fight again, his deal with Showtime guarantees it. It will be all blown up lightweights and Jr Welters from here on out, more one sided fights to pad his wallet. You reap what you sow.Posted May 14, 2013 9:12 am
I just made that picture my Desktop Background.. Great Photo. Definitely a sign of things to come for Cinnabum…Posted May 14, 2013 8:16 am
If Canelo grows the balls to fight Mayweather you’ll see about 1000 of those type of photos with Canelo immitating a Bobble Head…Posted May 14, 2013 8:13 am
Gonzo – you know that picture looks really bad for Canelo.. definitely not one you’d see posted by the other nut huggin writersPosted May 14, 2013 8:11 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
Lol Public Enema.Posted May 14, 2013 8:08 am
A picture is worth a 1000 words.. in that Photo you clearly see how beatable Cinnabum is.. that face he’s making as Trout Pops him in the face.. “Ouch, that hurts, leave me alone” is pricelessPosted May 14, 2013 7:36 am
Watching Canelo helpless against those ropes, gased out and hanging on for dear life showed everyone that Cinnabum is going to be taken out very soon…Posted May 14, 2013 7:32 am
MNboxingFAN – Sean
To hell with Mayweather. Canelo just keep fighting everyone else and eventually Floyd will have to fight you.Posted May 14, 2013 7:13 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
Actually the Ginger Mexican used his Ginger Mexican slickness to beat August Trout, Trout is twice the man Floyd could ever dream of being.Posted May 14, 2013 6:38 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
Is Floyd a good fighter? Without question. He’s defo a first ballot HOF fighter IMO. And he definitely has some nice skills at his disposal too:
Hand speed = 7.5 out of 10
Overall score 7 out of 10Posted May 14, 2013 5:53 am
Hidalgo, you would be screaming bloody murder if Floyd took on a guy he had 22 pounds on these guys are not HW’s and your feeble Wlad K argument holds no water… The only chance Canelo has is using extreme bulk to win the contest.. Under present conditions these guys would be separated by 3 divisions on fight night… If Floyd’s not OK with that, it’s his perogative at 36…Posted May 14, 2013 5:09 am
The idea that Mayweather is gonna make all the concessions to a kid who has proved VERY little on boxing is nonsense and yeah beating Austin Trout on points does not make you Great… When Floyd wanted a shot at superstardom (Oscar De La Hoya) he did not tell Oscar what weight the bout was going to occur at, or venue or anything he did what he had to do in order to get the bout…Mayweathers 36 years old and if he’s not open to spotting this kid 22 pounds and 14 years then Canelo can either take it or leave it, Martinez who’s 16 years older than Canelo was crazy enough to discuss touch to 150…. Canelo screwed himself when he put the world on notice that he’s a LHW on fight night…Floyd’s weight has been consistent for years and honestly he does not need Canelo who’s the flavor of the month…Posted May 14, 2013 5:03 am
If I was Floyd i’d ride out the end of his career staying at one weight class. If he feels right at 147 then I say if any challengers come forward they can join him at that weight. At hssi age now, even though his last performance was outstanding in my eyes, I don’t think his body needs to ride that weight see-saw. Was once a fan of Floyd, then changed due to his ego, but from his last outing, was liking the humbleness in him. Back on track lol GO FLOYDPosted May 14, 2013 2:32 am
Canelo vs. GGG would be a GREAT Fight! GGG has already SAID that he would make any Fight from 154-168. Canelo should follow suit. He’s elusive enough to BEAT GGG. That’s why he’s #10 P4P and Golovkin is #0.Posted May 14, 2013 1:12 am
I know! Wlad K. should go down to 220 to fight his next opponent. Same reasoning. Different weight class.Posted May 14, 2013 12:52 am
Three years ago, the Highest Court said that when Te Tumbo set aside his Mexican hat, he is nearly unmatched here on ESB…
I had also said this before: there are patches of genuine morons here…
Why can’t Canelo go up in weight and challenge GGG or Martinez?
Another ESB fool is KC…Posted May 14, 2013 12:11 am
Fight Aficionado: GTHOH: redneck!Posted May 14, 2013 12:06 am
I have said it before: there are patches of genuine morons here…
Why can’t Canelo go up in weight and challenge GGG or Martinez?
Another ESB fool is KC…Posted May 14, 2013 12:04 am
Floyd outbox’im for 5, 6 rounds then take’im out with body shots. That’s all i see. At 154.Posted May 14, 2013 12:03 am
Canelo let the cat out of the bag when he got on the scales weighing 172 which is pretty much LHW and more than where Hopkins fought Pavlik at weigh in… Floyd’s not spotting the kid 22 pounds at age 36… There is not a single FMJ detractor who would be OK with him having a 14 year and 22 pound weight advantage… Face it Canelos a nobody compared to Floyd… After Bradley even Manny who has done over 1 million buys knew he would only get 40% max… Alvarez is apparently not gonna get the concessions if he wants the old man he’s gonna have to do what he has to do… When Floyd went after the cash cow he had to cave to Oscars demand ie going up in weight even the gloves he wore according to reports..Posted May 14, 2013 12:01 am
why–what..Posted May 14, 2013 12:00 am
Why is everybody so afraid of? Canelo is not a KO puncher, he couldn’t hurt a shot to death Mosley, believe me he won’t reach Floyd; at 154 Canelo will be competitive for the first 5 rounds & after that he’ll be gasping for air & Floyd will help’im with some wicked body shots…Floyd should take the fight at 154 & next. Trout allowed this guy to rest & didn’t punch with any conviction & still the fight was close; Floyd would close the show in style. That I’m sure about. Can’t see this going any other way.Posted May 13, 2013 11:59 pm
Ooh! Canelo can’t make 147?
Canelo can’t make 147, period.Posted May 13, 2013 11:36 pm
Smart move by Floyd. You don’t let someone call you to a certain weight. Thats not how Boxing works. The man who calls the other man out must meet at the desired weight of the man being called out. Thats why Dawson MANNED UP and came down to meet Ward. IF Canelo wants the Fight BAD enough he’ll come down to call Floyd’s bluff. IF not then his call out was empty rhetoric.Posted May 13, 2013 11:31 pm
I really hate those chihuahua faces because the anhilated all of my best puertorican heroes. Another reason is that one day i left my home to try to borrow some money to eat but i got punked by a gang of those chihuahua named La Raza, they bullied me like salvador sanchez bullied my hero Wilfrido Gomez or Chavez Cheato sr punished Macho Camachos butt and to make the things worse when returned home I got my wife being banged by one of those damned piss dinker chihuahuas, i REALLY hate them and will never change my mindPosted May 13, 2013 11:17 pm
Again he has the belt at 154Posted May 13, 2013 10:09 pm
Of course, if Canelo does come down to 147 to fight Mayweather and loses, the Mayweather ballhuggers, including the “experts” will all claim Mayweather is the greatest ever. Going down to 147 is harder than fighting at a catchweight. Floyd knows this. That’s why he wants it. What do you Floyd ballhuggers have to say about your great hero now? Oh, let me guess, “Floyd shouldn’t have to fight a guy that weighs 170.” THEN STAY OUT OF THE JR. MIDDLEWEIGHT DIVISION! KUMQUAT!Posted May 13, 2013 10:04 pm
Floyd by sucker punch won’t happen with Saul he what’s Saul to suck weight to lose power this is his way of not fighting him and still look goodPosted May 13, 2013 9:59 pm
If he is not going to fight at 154 take his belt he didn’t like the power at154Posted May 13, 2013 9:50 pm
If Floyd Takes the fight at 154 & it’s his next fight, I take Floyd by KO in the second half of the fight; Canelo stamina problem is the pink elephant in the room that his Team & fans don’t see & people don’t address a problem if they don’t see the problem…Floyd is an under-rated body-puncher so the strategy should be to go to the body often & be very defensive for the first 5 rounds & then start ripping shots when Canelo try to rest-which he will after 5 rounds. If Floyd doesn’t take the fight at 154, he’ll be boycotting what could be one of his biggest victories. If he takes it at 154, I predict Floyd stopping Canelo in the later rounds…Posted May 13, 2013 9:48 pm
The only way Canelo makes 147 is if he gets a limb chopped…Posted May 13, 2013 9:30 pm
Say “NO!” Canelo. You fight as a jr. middleweight. If Floyd is afraid of your size and power, that’s his problem. He’s the one who keeps dipping into the jr. middleweight division. Let the fight go. Say “NO!” You’ll never regret it. But you will greatly regret if you say yes. Floyd will make you look like a fool. Don’t be over-confident thinking your so great that it won’t matter if you go down in weight. There’s a reason Floyd wants you to drop 7 pounds: He wants to weaken you! “NO!” is the only appropriate answer. You are already a big star. You will be a bigger star as time passes. Even without Floyd Mayweather Jr. NO!Posted May 13, 2013 9:18 pm
No way Canelo can lose 7 more pounds. I don’t blame Mayweather for this at all, but it probably kills the fight.Posted May 13, 2013 8:54 pm
Whoever is ranked at WW is who Mayweather should be fighting. There Are fighters in or near that division who are worthy challengers.Posted May 13, 2013 8:51 pm
Canelo has never stepped into the Ring Weighing 154lbs.. Canelos ring weight for his 154lb Matches has been a whopping 172+lbs!!! fker should be fighting Ward, Martinez, etc…Posted May 13, 2013 8:47 pm
As if an aging fighter with 5 fights left in his contract is going to jump up a division to face a young fighter who’ll outweigh him by 25 pounds come fight night. That might be brave, but it wouldn’t be smart. That something a desperate fighter may do, but its not something an established fighter would do without great gain or nothing else to do.Posted May 13, 2013 8:42 pm
“Floyd just had 16 thousand at the MGM” but he didn’t sell-out. perhaps because the tix were so expensive, which makes $10 ticket scenarios moot, i.e., it hasn’t nor will it ever happen. Btw, is that 1 million PPVs official? otherwise, i seriously doubt that Mayweather even beats DLH’s set-up bout v. Mayorga coming off of a 20-month layoff. anyway PEEJ, are you stating that Floyd’s biggest PPV bouts only coincidentally included the likes of DLH, Hatton, and Cotto? because, i’m arguing otherwise. that even an undefeated Floyd struggles to match the drawing power of previously defeated fighters like DLH, Hatton, and Cotto. in fact, only Canelo holds the promise of matching the 2.5 million PPVs purchased for the DLH bout but even that’s not a certainty. Canelo’s fanbase will do their part but Mayweather simply lacks that type of drawing power.Posted May 13, 2013 8:24 pm
There are lots of fighters ready to move into the WW division. Things should pick up by December.Posted May 13, 2013 8:20 pm
Mayweather made the correct choice. Canelo should say no thanks and continue building his résumé and develop his skills. He doesn’t need Mayweather. On the same token, Mayweather doesn’t need to be chairing down fighters in a division he’s too small for.Posted May 13, 2013 8:16 pm
floyd would have made pacman wear a dress and canelo doesn’t understand he’s not the draw,floyd is in charge and makes the demands just as dela hoya did when he fought floyd,the baton has been passed …..what’s not to understand,you guys steady looking for a mayweather slayer but your going to have to wait till he’s finished to find another king..yeessum!Posted May 13, 2013 8:05 pm
I don’t get what trout did that was that great serious lolPosted May 13, 2013 7:52 pm
and canelos for that matter as wellPosted May 13, 2013 7:44 pm
“1st everyone loved pac! now everyone loves canelo! seems like everyone loves whoever floyd faces!” – Uh, Floyd never faced Pac and he won’t face Canelo. It would be more accurate to say everyone loves whomever Floyd ducks.Posted May 13, 2013 7:43 pm
LOL……Pac falls and another real challenge being ducked by the self proclaimed GOAT. His fans are embarrassing. Just like A Mere Con fans. Excuses to no end. I love watching FMJ duck and squirm. Been watching for YEARS!!!!Posted May 13, 2013 7:41 pm
Truth`so if canelo don’t feel he should go down because he’s gonna be drained and floyd isn’t going to go back up and face a 172 pound fighter which i don’t blame floyd and not just because of the size but floyd mayweather calls the shots and he earned the right to do just that,then they both should just look for other oponents and i’m a fan of boxing and wouldn’t mind seeing them square off but i completly understand floyds position…yezzzzir!Posted May 13, 2013 7:40 pm
I won’t disrespect Mayweather’s skill, and I agree that it’s in his best interest to avoid fighters that naturally outweigh him by 20-30lbs. HOWEVER, haven’t we had enough of his best interest over the past 6 years? Since that streak of running through DLH, Hatton, Zab, Gatti, etc, he’s been handpicking guys and making MASSIVE money each time, while fighting only a couple times per year. GREAT for Floyd and he has every right to do what he wants. But as a fan, I have no interest in watching him take a victory lap. The Floyd I like made historic and epic fights I wanted to see. The Floyd we are left with doesn’t care about his fans or the state of the sport that made him fabulously wealthy, as evidenced by his strategy of padding his account before retirement instead of making watchable and legendary fights. Again, he has every right to pad his record and his wallet, but we don’t have to enable it by buying the fights.Posted May 13, 2013 7:30 pm
Those guys didnt ballon up to 172lbs on fight night either! keep it real tark!Posted May 13, 2013 7:23 pm
All may not be lost… This might be Floyd’s opening gambit.Posted May 13, 2013 7:20 pm
How generous Floyd was when he fought Cotto and De La Hoya…Posted May 13, 2013 7:18 pm
Floyd on fighting Cotto at 154…, “I like to fight guys at a weight where they’re not compromised. I like to fight them at a weight where they feel the most comfortable.Posted May 13, 2013 7:17 pm
canelo is a smm mascarading as a jm. not the same as fighting cotto or odh! jmm’s dont weight 172 fighrPosted May 13, 2013 7:15 pm
Floyd’s right about the weight. 147 or forget it.Posted May 13, 2013 7:14 pm
Floyd vs Boldamire was for the welterweight championship belt. That’s why he took that fight.Posted May 13, 2013 7:13 pm
Te Tumbo, Floyd just had 16 thousand at the MGM and look how expensive the tickets where. Floyd did over a million PPVs with someone that is only known to hardcore fans. He has never been on a Lahore PPV and Floyd did over a million. Floyd did over a million PPV against Ortiz and had about 14 thousand at the MGM with yet of course expensive ass tickets. Yes I do believe Floyd could sell out a soccer stadium with $10 tickets just like Canelo couldPosted May 13, 2013 7:12 pm
“Of course Floyd’s saying 147 or nothing, even though he won a title at 154 last year. Canelo can’t make 147 anymore so he’s raising a barrier that cannot be overcome, and a perfect excuse to duck Canelo while saving face. Sound familiar?”-Yup. Sounds like what Pacquiao SAID to Martinez. 147 or NO Fight.Posted May 13, 2013 7:00 pm
Mick the Marmalizer
Floyd’s a 100% ponce & a Ray Leonard wanna be. Ray pulled the scam with Donny La Lalonde & made him boil his balls off!. A fight with Canelo must be made @ 154Lb with both WBA & WBC titles on the line or not at all!!…….Posted May 13, 2013 6:57 pm
You saying Canelo 22 can’t make 147 please if can’t that means he is much bigger than the weight he is at. Cotto is a small 154 it is not the same I say fight at 154 whereas you can’t gain no more than 10lbsPosted May 13, 2013 6:55 pm
Sounds like someone doesnt appreciate the sweet sceince of hit your man and not get hit. There is a differencePosted May 13, 2013 6:53 pm
Everybody loves a Puncher and hates a runner.Posted May 13, 2013 6:44 pm
1st everyone loved pac! now everyone loves canelo! seems like everyone loves whoever floyd faces! smh!Posted May 13, 2013 6:41 pm
Of course Floyd’s saying 147 or nothing, even though he won a title at 154 last year. Canelo can’t make 147 anymore so he’s raising a barrier that cannot be overcome, and a perfect excuse to duck Canelo while saving face. Sound familiar?Posted May 13, 2013 6:20 pm
Eastside Boxing-Stop telling me I am posting too quickly! STOP, STOP, STOP!!!Posted May 13, 2013 6:06 pm
. . . and Floyd v. Baldomir was a welterweight unification bout(?!).Posted May 13, 2013 6:03 pm
“[Canelo] was selling tickets for 10 bucks a seat. if Floyd did that he could sell out soccer stadiums”. impossible to prove something that never has nor will ever happen. i can recall Floyd having trouble selling-out his bout v. Ortiz and he certainly didn’t break any PPV records v. Guerrero. Mayweather needs to combine his undefeated notoriety with a passionate fanbase to bring in the numbers he is constantly getting credit for. otherwise, you’ve got unsold $10 tix to watch Mayweather v. Baldomir, each and every time.Posted May 13, 2013 6:02 pm
I don’t know if it will happen but it would be a Mega Fight.
Good Luck to All.
Peace.Posted May 13, 2013 5:59 pm
I fully disagree with the writer of this story. With all due respect sir,have yoy ever boxed? Do you know the difference between a slow ring and a fast ring? I could go on but the point I’m making is that you cannot suggest for Mr. Canelo to do what you are decreeing unless you understand the bio physics involved in comung down from your weight class as opposed to going up out of your weight class. Goung down takes atremendous toll on a fighters body. uch more than the converse. I’ve had punches thrown at me and believe it isn’t for armchair wanna bes. I have suspected for some time the writers on these forums jad their own personal agendas and look to appeal to a certain fanbase. Unfortunately Eastside boxinf is not exempt from this. Food for thought.Posted May 13, 2013 5:57 pm
See all this it’s 1 class it’s only 1 pound crap is ridiculous. Floyd has moved up 4 weight classes and fought twice at 154 against fighters that used to be in his weight class. So if he where to move to 154 and beat Canelo everyone would say he needs to fight at 170. And if he didn’t people like you would say he is a Fraud, Canrlo wasn’t ready and he is too scared to move up yes once again 1 weight classPosted May 13, 2013 5:56 pm
How many weight divisions does he need keep climbing?
Some greats have never moved up in weight. Remember Hagler?
Canelo can move up to 160 and fight for a title, right?Posted May 13, 2013 5:55 pm
Yes Tito went from 147 to 160, that is 3 weight classes and when he went to 160 he started getting beat and beat up. Floyd went from 130 to 147 which is 17 pounds higher to Titos 13 pounds. Not to mention he has taken 2 fights at 154 who’s is 24 pounds higher. So you can’t compare Tito to Floyd cause Floyd has moved to more weight classes than Tito. Floyd is a great and first ballot HOFPosted May 13, 2013 5:52 pm
Obviously you guys have no boxing sense…AT ALL!! Do you guys think for even a moment that….in training camp that they don’t realize to have Fraud sparring with bigger guys??? Duhhhh!! Of course Fraud spars with bigger guys….Thats CAlled TRAINING!!!! Nobody is talking about Fraud going to Light heavy weight or something crazy….ONE FREAKING WEIGHT CLASS…. THATS ALL!!!!Posted May 13, 2013 5:52 pm
Fears: He is young and building his name but YES, it was about time he fought someone like Trout to prove his worth. There are some good fights at 154-160 for him but I don’t blame him at all for trying to get the fight with Floyd given Floyd is the Biggest Legacy and Money fight out there…and Floyd has a title at 154…a division you want to clean out which I guess he doing by calling Floyd out and Floyd appearing to back away.
So once you make that challenge and the other guy back out, you can move on because you can say “Hey, I tried to get that fight and the other guy didn’t want to defend his title (which was a 154 pound title).
I can’t blame Floyd for not wanting to fight Canelo though: He is a natural 154 pound fighter, Young, Hungry, Skilled, Powerful, and…Floyd isn’t getting any younger and would be the naturally smaller man in the ring.
Beating Canelo though which I think he can do would be big for his legacy. Money he has. Legacy he can still build especially given the fall-out of what could have been the biggest Money fight in history against Pac.
ITS JUST BUSINESS.Posted May 13, 2013 5:51 pm
It’s called negotiation. Start strong and maybe Canelo’s people will make other concessions. That said, love him or hate him, Floyd’s a smart guy. Canelo’s only real advantage over Floyd is size, so why not try to take that away from him. Canelo’s a growing boy though, maybe he should move up to middleweight – there’d be a lot of interest between him and Martinez and/or GGG.Posted May 13, 2013 5:50 pm
Problem is Canelo is too big. Everyone says Floyd has fought at 154 twice before but look who he fought. Oscar who started his career at 130 and Cotto who started his career at 140. Floyd started his career at 130. Canelo started his career at 154 and when he comes in fight night he is 170 or or so. Yeah Floyd will get bashed for that but that’s life. Yes Canelo does have a good fan base but all this he brought 40 thousand to the Alamoedome is a little misleading. He was selling tickets for 10 bucks a seat. If Floyd did that he could sell out soccer stadiums. Unfortunately Floyd’s tickets are priced to high which only allows a certain type of wealth attend his fightsPosted May 13, 2013 5:49 pm
Truth, Tito started at lighter weights also along with Jones and Roberto Duran and other “REAL” greats!! Matter of fact, Tito went from 147, to 154, to 160 and fought the champions in each of those divisions. Roy Jones went to heavy weight and fought Ruiz…. What part of that don’t you get??? Fraud is a JOKE!!Posted May 13, 2013 5:47 pm
What’s a shame is that there is no Prime Sugar Ray Robinson, Tommy Hearns, Ray Leaonard, etc. in today’s WW division. Guys that are natural WW with Great Skills, Speed, Power, athleticism, tenacity and grit. That overall package to challenge Floyd.
but maybe Floyd never moves up to WW if they are there.Posted May 13, 2013 5:44 pm
FEARS: I think you forgot that Dela Hoya picked Pacquiao instead of Floyd as his retirement fight. He thought he was gonna walk all over him. He even came in weight 3 weeks before the fight which was the wrong strategy that cost him. He also quit in that fight remember? He didn’t know how to fight a leftie… all his career Bob Arum hid all the lefties from him.Posted May 13, 2013 5:44 pm
Prepare now for the insults and verbal attacks , vile and nasty of course towards Canelo Alvarez from the other gentlemans fanbase. Accusations of cowardice and so forth,camouflaging the spotlight away on whom everyone should and rightfully so focus on. Mayweather. Yet standard fare,par for the course.Posted May 13, 2013 5:44 pm
I normally don’t agree with Hecdog, but he’s got something right this time. He wont go to 147, but he sure loves fighting 147 pounders. I also agree with Hecdog encouraging Canelo to fight some of the other top guys in his own division or 160.Posted May 13, 2013 5:43 pm
Floyd started at 130 and won titles on the way up to where he is now. His weight of around 149 on fight-night is an issue when facing bigger guys in the 154 pound division because on fight-night, they can out-weight him by 15+ pounds.Posted May 13, 2013 5:42 pm
Good for Mayweather’s camp I say. However, perhaps it’s tactics, it could be that if the fight can’t be made at 147lb and Canelo’s team keep pushing “Money” Mayweather’s team say “OK, we’ll fight at 154lb but you get a lower percentage etc.”Posted May 13, 2013 5:38 pm
Showtime should take a long hard look at this. A forecast of things to come.Posted May 13, 2013 5:37 pm
Dino, from Youngstown, Ohio.
Mayweather said when fighting Cotto that, he wanted to fight Cotto at the weight Cotto feels comfortable. Why can’t he fight Canelo at 154? I would take another route if I were Money, I would make Canelo sign the contract saying that on fight night he can’t weigh more than 156/157. This way it will not allow him ( Canelo ) to ballon up to 170. I think that’s fair.Posted May 13, 2013 5:37 pm
the ugly little twerp alvarez was offerd a fight with Triple G at 154 the coward turned it downPosted May 13, 2013 5:37 pm
Canelo isn’t going anywhere near 147. Mayweather thinks he owns the world and always comes up with some kind of BS to avoid fighters. He did the same with Pacquiao. Excuses, excuses. Canelo doesn’t need him at all. He’s starting to grow and a big following is growing even bigger. Canelo is young, I’m sure he or his team won’t be that desperate to fight at a disadvantage regardless of how much money they wave at him. I think Mayweather can beat Canelo at any weight because he’s too green. He doesn’t havethe tools at this time in his career to run after a guy all night. Floyd will hit, hold and move, which will make for a very boring fight. Canelo should choose a real fight vs GGG, Martinez, Lara or other top guys. Those fights will be much mor exciting to watch. No way on earth Canelo agrees to drop down.Posted May 13, 2013 5:36 pm
As mr. Mayweathers chief cheerleader Stephen A. Smith said,” I can no longer defend Floyd when people say he is ducking Pacquiao. ” Just change the names and the song remains the same.Posted May 13, 2013 5:31 pm
Stark, don’t waste your time my friend. These individuals would never understand or WANT to be at least open minded. Much like the brainwashed ,almost cultlike Elvis Presley fanbase who believes he invented what is known as rock and roll. Believe me sir, just rise above the fray yoy will be doung yourself a tremendous favor.Posted May 13, 2013 5:27 pm
been waiting for this article lol. not sure how anyone can defend this anymore. IT ISNT A WEIGHT FLOYD HASN’T FOUGHT AT (54)Posted May 13, 2013 5:26 pm
TRUTH-You’re comparing Floyd demand of 147 to Pac making Cotto & DLH come down to a catchweight, but there is 1 big difference. Pac wanted those big paydays he got courtesy of DLH and Cotto. In this case Floyd could take it or leave it as far as a Canelo fight goes because he will make the big money no matter who he fights. On the other hand, Floyd is the key to Canelo’s biggest by far payday of his whole career, so he wants this fight like a baby wants a tit. So, since he wants it that bad he has to do whatever it takes to make it happen. Floyd is in the director’s chair whether you like it or not and he can call the shots as he pleases. Even if Canelo does come down to 147, he will still outweigh Floyd by 15-20 pounds on fight night so what the Hell.Posted May 13, 2013 5:22 pm
Well, gentleman, I must say, I rest my case. This man wasted NO TIME in finding an impossible demand in order to sabotage another potential big one. Canelo DOES NOT IN ANY WAY ,SHAPE OR FORM habe to concede something that outrageous. 151 was perfectly suitable. You cannot habe it both eays. Mr. mayweathers hip hop fanbase will always find right and justification in EVERY THING HE DOES,UNFORTUNATELY THIS GENERATION HAS EMBRACED THE VICTIM US AGAINST THEM MENTALITY. I eould suggest to those who see this for what it is,DONT WASTE YOUR TIME AND INTELLIGENCE in debating with these individuals. They will not budge. This is the generation of accepting mediocrity as the norm and this Mr. Mayweather is very symbolic of that. No more needs to be said.Posted May 13, 2013 5:21 pm
NO CATCHWEIGHTS. We know Canelo is healthy at 154. And 154 is the weight-limit of the division. Why alter the division?
I don’t know if Canelo can make 150 since I am not him and there is not point of doing a catchweight. Especially for a title fight.
We have weight divisions with weight limits. How about following them given it is a Title Fight. Pac used a catweight and Floyd ripped him for it. It would make Floyd look like a hypocrite and discredit his fight(s).
Floyd has fought and won a title at 154/jrMW without catch-weights and bragged about it, right?
Floyd just needs to say that fighting jrMW are not in his best interest. That he just doesn’t feel right in that division. And then move on.Posted May 13, 2013 5:11 pm
151!!! I’m out folks!Posted May 13, 2013 5:09 pm
Great fighters move up in weight and challenge bigger guys.Posted May 13, 2013 5:07 pm
Chicken Mayweather.Posted May 13, 2013 5:05 pm
Truth – a catch weight is a solid possibility. Canelo can go down to 150 right?Posted May 13, 2013 5:05 pm
Mayweather is so careful to avoid any chance of an ass-whuppin’, he should just retire, and then he can brag about his long, undefeated career for the rest of his lifePosted May 13, 2013 5:03 pm
You don’t take a fight at a weight that will drain your body. It doesn’t matter about age since all people can be affected by weight loss no matter how old you are. He fights at 154 for a reason…he is healthy there.
Floyd has fought at 154 before and Won a title while promoting his fights with Oscar and Cotto as the “healthier” version of themselves and how he wouldn’t want to drain them like Pac did. So draining Canelo would make him a hypocrite.
Floyd should just say or admit that he is just not suited to face off against a Legit 154 pound fighter. And there is nothing wrong with that. Size can matter. But it doesn’t mean Floyd can’t win. He just not want to risk it.
And why concede your health for another when Floyd himself doesn’t do it (as far as dropping down in weight he would struggle to make).
If the fight happens, it happens. But Never fall into the trap of draining yourself for money if you care about your legacy since you will be put in a big disadvantage and probably lose and regret it the rest of your life.Posted May 13, 2013 5:00 pm
I think mathysse will win this Saturday. Then a mathysse vs mayweather bout would spark our curiosity.Posted May 13, 2013 4:59 pm
So for everybody who fights at 154 is ok to fight Canelo but for Floyd is not. This sound DUM.Posted May 13, 2013 4:56 pm
Le’t s not talk about Pacquiao, if you are following the same procedure. I hope Canelo doesn’t say no, takes the fight. It won’t hurt him at all he is a young guy. Mayweather-Canelo the fight that has to happen at any weight. Mayweather is a master like Pacquiao in demanding others, Canelo can change his destiny.Posted May 13, 2013 4:55 pm
Its called fighting at an even weight haters! Yall the same hater that are ok w floyd fight canelo weghting 150 and canelo weight 170. Hypocrites! Lets keep it fair peoplePosted May 13, 2013 4:54 pm
The point is that Floyd criticized Pacquiao for draining both Cotto and Oscar while He, Floyd, supposedly fought them at their best weight, 154.
By demanding Canelo to drain himself down to 147 would be Floyd being no better than what Pacquiao and discredit his victories.
Either stick to your words and fight the Man at your best or admit you are the same as the man you accused of draining fighters.
Now Floyd doesn’t have to fight Canelo because there is an obvious “natural” weight discrepancy but it’s up to him to stand by his words or not.
Canelo wants Floyd for two reasons: Legacy and Money (which he is already on his way of going up in every fight because he is a Star)…so if I were Canelo I would call Floyd out as well. But I would not drain myself down to 147 because you are not putting yourself into position to be healthy.Posted May 13, 2013 4:52 pm
i new mayweather was goin to say 147 or no fight he knows canelo cant make 147 he will drain himself making that weight make it a cash weight 150 come on make the fight mayweather dont be scare it be a better fight then a paquio fightPosted May 13, 2013 4:51 pm
James – this is just the start to the negotiations. It may end up being at acatch weight.Posted May 13, 2013 4:50 pm
Mayweather is a puzzyPosted May 13, 2013 4:48 pm
Public E. – mayweather makes everyone look average. That’s what the greats do. Just giving deserved credit to Canelo. Canelo has a puncher’s chance.Posted May 13, 2013 4:47 pm
Floyd holds the cards! Either Canelo wants the fight at 147 or he doesnt. No one is making him take the fight! Its called leverage! Canelo has none!Posted May 13, 2013 4:46 pm
Stark – sorry to burst your bubble but Canelo is just another hype job who will get beaten by Mayweather in humiliating fashion.. then KO’d..Posted May 13, 2013 4:44 pm
Public enemy fits you good the things is May ca beat Canelo at 154 and he demand Sergio come down to 154 these fights are fights that May most likely win. Why leave as what if why no go out as a true p4p instead of playing games I hold all the card. What a bunch of weenies.Posted May 13, 2013 4:42 pm
Not gonna happen. This is impossible. Canelo won’t go down.Posted May 13, 2013 4:41 pm
Public E. – canelo’s power can rupture all the boxers u mentioned. I at first minimized his potential but he’s for fu&$in realPosted May 13, 2013 4:41 pm
Stark – When has Canelo shown Deadly power? Did he hurt tiny 42 year old Mosely? Did he KO Trout? Did.. stop dreamin… Canelo has shown ZERO of anything special in the Ring.. a C+ fighter at best…Posted May 13, 2013 4:40 pm
So it’s OK for Canelo to have a 20+ weight gain advantage in all his fights but not ok to have a -7 pound weight dissadvantage?? What goes around comes around and you have to do what it takes to beat the best.. he can take it or leave it.. There’s plenty of guys his size waiting in line to kick his cheating butt.. Like his Belts Mandatory Cuban Lara…Posted May 13, 2013 4:39 pm
Truth – mayweather is going start his demandS at 147. Canelo has deadly power which cotto does not. Mayweather is taking that into account. All that fighting cotto at his best was talkPosted May 13, 2013 4:37 pm
It wasn’t a “Demand” as much as it was an financial agreement. Basically, I will help boost your pockets/PPV buys despite not facing me this time around if you agree to fight me next. Floyd said No so Canelo said No…which was the right thing to do.
As far as weight, forget it. One thing Floyd hasn’t down is force himself down in weight on the demand of another fighter because his “Health” is more important. There is no point in fighting while drained even if you get a big purse. That is, if you care about winning and your legacy. Floyd showed patience pays off.
Now going up in weight is different because you don’t have to add extra weight to your body if you don’t want to. It’s more dangerous to take weight off.Posted May 13, 2013 4:37 pm
It’s either take Mayweathers demand or go fight the guys your true Size and weight.. Cinnabum is screwed… Lara, Quinlin, Martinez and Rosado are lickin their Chops… new meat in the house…Posted May 13, 2013 4:33 pm
its same, Floyd rather fought Baldomir than Margarito… Margarito, which was destroyed by Pacman in lightmidlle weight… Pff, Pacman is too hard for Floyd and he rather talks about peds without nothing, he has fear… looolPosted May 13, 2013 4:33 pm
These are the same hypocrate Chihuahuas who had no problem when Paaquiao forced Cotto to starve down to 144lbs!! and they Celebrated in the Streets when a weight Drained Cotto lost to paquiao.. They loved it and praised Paquiao for the win.. Now they have a problem with Canelo going down in weight to fight Mayweather??????????????????????????????????????? ROFLMAO.. fkn Hypocrates..Posted May 13, 2013 4:31 pm
To all the peps that say may holds all the cards are you boxing fan or are you employed by team may. What happen to being P4P is all about taking low risk as possible. Without Canelo, or Sergio Mayweather stock will be going down. Trust me as it is show time sucks hbo put a better show.Posted May 13, 2013 4:29 pm
Truth` but canelos a young pup who has to realize that if he dares to be great he has to make a few sacrifices and understand that the road to greatness is through floyd, so why not fight floyd at 147 and also he’S in no position to make demands ,,dare to be great and out shine mayweather but take that risk….um jus sayn!Posted May 13, 2013 4:29 pm
Damn!!, that shot of Canelo helpless against the ropes, whincing in pain as Trout Hammers him to the face is awesome.. Just made it my computer desktop image…Posted May 13, 2013 4:29 pm
no one complains when pac makes fighter drop weight to fight him! stop hating! floyd is goin to murk canelo at 147!Posted May 13, 2013 4:27 pm
All Canelo has to do is stop trying to fight these naturally smaller guys and fight Guys his true Size like GGG, Martinez, Ward.. but he’s a little cowardly Chihuahua who wants to fight smaller guys.. well Maywether just told him how its going to be.. Take it or move dafk on…. LOL priceless…Posted May 13, 2013 4:26 pm
A full weight Canelo couldn’t back up or hurt a tiny 40 year old Mosely and he got rocked by Cottos C level Brother.. Floyd will kill this hyped Chihuahua worse then he killed Marquez, Diaz and Gurerrero..Posted May 13, 2013 4:24 pm
floyd holds all the cards he calls the shots! smart move!Posted May 13, 2013 4:24 pm
Canelo was in ww 3 years ago, he was only 19, still growing… Go down is same case as Ward vs. Dawson… This fight will happen in 154, Floyd knows, that he will broke DLH record only with Canelo… Next year it will happen, because MONEY… and boring figts like Alexander, Bradley and Garcia… Funny is when Floyd fought Ortiz, he had 20lb overweight in matchday and everything was ok, not against Canelo…Posted May 13, 2013 4:23 pm
P4P nothing but cowardly act of avoiding another good fight. And the thing is Mayweather should be able to kick his ass at 154. Nothing but b.s. from the p4p chump.Posted May 13, 2013 4:22 pm
Floyd’s powerful hooks to the body mixed with Canelo’s lack of stamina is a winner formula for Floyd Jr…this is a huge opportunity missed by Floyd.Posted May 13, 2013 4:21 pm
Bye Bye Canelo.. it was fun while it lasted.. lasted longer then Chavez Cheato Jr… LOLPosted May 13, 2013 4:21 pm
Once Mayweather Beats Canelo to a pulp then Cinnabum will be beaten down by Cotto, Quinlin, Lara, Rosado… There won’t be enough left of Cinnabum to put in a Taco shell…Posted May 13, 2013 4:19 pm
The Canelo’s stamina problem won’t be addressed because his team & fans don’t recognize that they have a problem, I’m surprised team May didn’t see this clear advantage.Posted May 13, 2013 4:17 pm
Why would mayweather not demand it at 147? Canelo has to come to him.Posted May 13, 2013 4:16 pm
LOOOL, now Canelo have to say – no 154, no fight, no money Money… For old DLH and for Cotto was lightmiddleweight ok, not for Canelo… Now will see unbeliavable fights against very good picking opponents – Khan, AlexanderPosted May 13, 2013 4:15 pm
Mayweather is the Champ and Canelo is a nobody.. he will do as Mayweather demands or he can head back across the border… I’m sure they’ll have some weight gain restrictions and Random Blood testing.. Translation? The Canelo Hype Train is about to come to a grinding hault!!! Bye Bye Canelo.. See you in Messyhoe…Posted May 13, 2013 4:14 pm
What happen to p4p he has beat Cotto at 154. He should be able to beat Canelo at 154 but is all about not taking chances for good old Mayweather.Posted May 13, 2013 4:14 pm
Canelo is the best guy out there for Floyd.
Damn, Canelo looks helpless against those ropes didn’t even realize it was him until I realized it was Trout throwing that impressive shot..Posted May 13, 2013 4:13 pm
Big mistake by team Floyd, at 154 Canelo is effective for about 5 rounds & after that he can only fight for 1/2 a minute a round…Floyd has a super body attack that should see’im hurt Canelo badly & probably take’im out in the later rounds; At 147, Canelo more likely won’t do it because I don’t think he can make the weight. This is a big blunder by the Mayweathers…Posted May 13, 2013 4:12 pm
Cheese cake in Montreal
Isn’t Mayweather the 154 WBA champ? In’t Canelo the 154 WBC champ?
Floyd is a WW who actually weighs-in as a WW or maybe just a couple of pounds North…on fight-night. Compare that to many others that fight in a division and blow up 10-20 pounds. Floyd is best at WW.
Floyd is also basically saying that he was never a legit 154/jrMW Champ because he couldn’t fight a “natural” JrMW….Like Canelo is. Oscar and Cotto are both guys that have moved more than one weight division over the years after winning titles in lower weight classes.Posted May 13, 2013 4:09 pm
well said te` tumbo, very well said…yezzzir “floyd fight me next or i’m not fighting on your card” get outta here canelo,you need to learn some respect you can’t just come on the scene and make demands, screw that…eazy!Posted May 13, 2013 3:57 pm
a lot of delusional and thoroughly unfounded allusions to “cheating” by Canelo(?). Wtf is that all about? is he a “cheater” if he accepts this bout(?) or if he rejects it? my vote is for discarding the Mayweather dream and targeting Martinez instead. he’s ripe for Canelo to pluck off of the P4P tree.Posted May 13, 2013 3:57 pm
Mayweatrher once again shows his true colors.lol He is a fraud!Posted May 13, 2013 3:56 pm
Weigh-in several weeks before the fight? Never heard of that…..canelo’s power could hurt anyone.Posted May 13, 2013 3:54 pm
how you figure? Canelo challenge Mayweather at 154lbs. even though this would require Mayweather to compromise his P4P dominance, he also has two wins v. HOFrs at this weight. including a recent lopsided “W” v. the albeit ringworn 154lb gatekeeper Cotto. this was the entire basis for the 154lb challenge. otherwise, it’s apparent and understandeable that Floyd no longer feels that confident above 147lbs v. legit middleweights. IMO, i hope this ends all talk of a Canelo v. Mayweather bout. Floyd is a welter and Canelo needs to focus on dominating middle. that is the logical trajectory of their respective ring-profiles. i could care less if they’re not able to confirm another PPV payday, which is what this is all about anyway. bottomline, even though Floyd has dipped his toe in to middleweight waters, he and Canelo are not natural opponents.Posted May 13, 2013 3:53 pm
Sure would be an interesting bout. Canelo has a huge Mexican following. This would approach 2 million ppv buys.Posted May 13, 2013 3:51 pm
I sincerely hope that the fight takes place at 147 and with Mayweather, I’m certain that it will. I’m sick and tired of some of these people always getting the advantage such as “catch weights,” judges, etc.
Team Mayweather will have the fight in Vegas and NOT Texas.
With all of these things in place, it doesn’t leave much room for cheating or anything else. Mayweather will beat the crap out of Canelo in front of all of his delusional fans. That’s a fact!Posted May 13, 2013 3:50 pm
before all you mayweather haters get on here n start spitting venom just remember floyd is a mere welterweight who dabbled at that higher weight a couple times and realizes that 147 is where he should be and i don’t think there’s anything wrong with that,if canelo wants to dare be great i think he knows what he has to do,it’s not impossible for him to move down and put weight back on before the fight,good for mayweather and his team screw that….yezzzir!Posted May 13, 2013 3:49 pm
Makes sense! Floyd is THE UNO…take it, or leave it.Posted May 13, 2013 3:47 pm
Good. Canelo can`t cheat Floyd like he did TroutPosted May 13, 2013 3:42 pm