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TARK

Boxtra…. Ortiz DID give Floyd problems. He rammed his head into Floyd’s face and opened a cut inside his mouth … I said in a post a day before the fight that Ortiz didn’t have a jab and Floyd would stop him in 4 or 5 rounds.. I saw Victor’s confidence waver at that point as the fight got closer and reality was setting in for him.. He had a lot of confidence in the Berto fight. Even though he couldn’t defend himself well — neither could Berto. Neither man could jab but Victor fought his ass off for once in his life. He’s the welterweight Buster Douglas. One night of glory was all he wanted. Against Floyd he tried to foul out. When that didn’t work he laid right down. He wanted to take minimum punishment for his 5-million dollars … He ripped the PPV audience off in grand fashion. He’s probably proud of himself.

I do want to see Floyd against something other than a horse’s ass fighter… I’m praying the Canelo fight can be made.

Posted May 13, 2013 9:19 pm 


TARK

That’s what you wrote Enema Snoot… You’re a damned liar.

Posted May 13, 2013 8:48 pm 


Adrian

Sredmond sredmond ,ok so torecampo loss is the reason that paqiao is not considered worthy of mayweather or cotto?? You remember mayweather crying about how paqiao is on juice because he is too strong for his weight???????????at that time he still had the torecampo loss in his record so why the crying and why they didn’t just take the fight but complain ???? As for Marquez loss you know very well paqiao was on his way of stoping Marquez for the first time in their 4 fights ,he was tagging him and going for the kill and Marquez for the first time was stationary target but it happen paqiao got cought with a punch that going in with his punch wich he missed and that’s boxing but just because a fighter lose a fight it dosent mean that they are not worth it any more. ..rios is face first ? And what is Guerrero ,a counterpuncher????? Lol ….and just because paqiao didn’t stop his challengers i his latest fights he still beat them all !!!!!paqiao started at 109 and fought margarito who is a giant compare to paqiao ,beat clotey he cotto 145 or whatever and I am glad you praise cotto now but when paqiao beat cotto a lot of guys like you were saying cotto is a broken fighter si fe the loss of margarito …you think khan ,ortiz ,guerrero are tougher opponent for mayweather the paqiao?? Lol I know you don’t because you know deep down mayweather always doubed he could beat paqiao and still does and always avoided him and also paqiao vs mayweather still would be the biggest fight even if they fight right now ,say itsnt so?

Posted May 13, 2013 6:46 pm 


Public Enemy

Canelo gassing out in the 5th round vs Feather Fisted Trout definitely shows that Canelo is going to get KO’d by Floyd or Cotto.. He’ll be exposed just like Chavez Cheato Jr.

Posted May 13, 2013 11:58 am 


Hidalgo

Pissymundo, yes you did pick Marquez to beat Pacquiao by KO in their last fight, but even if Marquez would have won by Decision you would have claimed you made the right prediction again. Bottom line is you guessed at the outcome of their 4th fight and you got lucky. Besides, we all know you don’t bet squat on fights. Number one you don’t have the money to risk. Two, you don’t have the balls to bet, and three, nobody in the boxing world considers you to be an expert about anything. Because they NEVER heard of you!

Posted May 13, 2013 10:09 am 


SREDMOND

Typo=being 4 years OLDER than Cotto

Posted May 13, 2013 9:45 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, for the record Mayweather ALREADY defeated Cotto at 154 and he did it coming UP in weight and being younger than Cotto…. When Floyd beat future HOFER Cotto he had FEWER losses (still does) than Manny Pacquiao and he was stopped the same number of times career wise… Cotto ALSO has been stopped 2x by BETTER fighters than Pacquiao ever was I mean Rustico Torrecampo? and that other guy Singusurat or something like that? Obviously the 3rd guy who knocked him out is a GREAT fighter who Floyd Mayweather completely whitewashed …..So why no credit given for defeating Cotto when he was a Champ at 154 and had just come off getting revenge for one of his then 2 losses? Cotto fought the BEST schedule of WW’s vs this era of ANYONE and he is a bonafide World Class fighter who NEVER let a scrub beat him…..But of course since Floyd took him he’s nobody? Nonsense….

Posted May 13, 2013 9:44 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, you bring up Lewis getting decked by Rahman which ONLY further illustrates my point Lewis went ahead and got brutal revenge on the guy that knocked him out… When’s Pacquaio gonna do that??? You said Pacquiao would stop Guerrero? Yeah right Manny had not stopped ANYONE in YEARS you’re living in the PAST… His inability to stop his recent foes coupled with his wide open chin are the reasons he’s in this predicament….He got robbed against Bradley because he could not put down the hobbled fighter.. And Marquez creamed him because he could not properly finish JMM…. It’s been a LONG time since Cotto at 145…

Posted May 13, 2013 7:48 am 


SREDMOND

Sad attempt to pivot Adrian I never said Rios is a bum?? He’s a guy who is a face first fighter that said what does that grave to do with the conversation you lost me… And for the record Pacquaio has not beat him Manny was last seen facedownnon the canvas it was not even a points loss… He’s gotta win again and be impressive then he’s likely gotta not be a Top Rank fighter at this point it’s childish to keep saying “fight Manny” when Everyone knows that GoldenBoy and Top Rank are not working together… Same with Mayweather promotions…

Posted May 13, 2013 7:43 am 


Adrian

Sorry typo ,I meant “i was the only one in my town* not time “lol damn iPhone auto corection is killing me here

Posted May 13, 2013 3:24 am 


Adrian

Tark – that’s exactly right what you said about Holyfield vs Tyson
That fight I waited for years because i was more than sure Holyfield was the on to beat Tyson and I think I was the only one in my time that thought holy would beat him, and also just because holy lost some fights in his carriere dosent mean he is weaker than let’s say someone like Marciano that never lost …..

Posted May 13, 2013 3:22 am 


TARK

What about the odds on the first Holyfield-Tyson fight??? The public is nuts about Tyson and had him an prohibitive favorite. Even though he was flakey and Holyfield wasn’t so much … and Douglas knocked Tyson out—and Holyfield knocked Douglas out quickly. Also Holyfled was just as big and taller than Mike, and had a great chin, and good skills compared to Tyaon.. So the odds made no sense, especially after seeing Tyson’s fights with Ruddock.. Ev lost to Moorer when he was injured and that was a part of it…and he lost to Bowe. The public didn’t see them as good heavyweights, so they didn’t think he’d have a prayer with Tyson. Sometimes you should forget about records, who anyone fought and everything else, and just judge them on basic skills, smarts, and conditioning.. That’s what wins.

Posted May 13, 2013 2:10 am 


TARK

The experts don’t know crap… Neither do most of the bettors… I knew Vitali 12 UD was the likely outcome for his Chisora fight.. I knew Haye KO would be the most likely outcome for his Chisora fight.. I knew Floyd 12 UD would be the most likely outcome for his Guerrero fight.. I knew Rigondeaux D 12 was the best bet for his Donaire fight, even though I thought the fight would be close…because the odds favored Donaire and there’s no way you’re going to stop or dominate a guy as good as Rigondeaux.. I knew the -700 odds for Floyd in this last fight were way light.. should have been at least -1200… The so-called experts and the public are continuously wrong about the character and outcome of fights.. One of the easiest was Mosley vs Forrest.. Another was the Mosley-DLH and Trinidad-DLH fights… The public likes Oscar so the odds are going to be skewed.. Also whether there will be be a stoppage or not.. So often there’s a good bet, and there’s a lot to choose from …. If you really knew Boxing Boxtra, you’d bet your ass off and most fights you don’t have a clue.

Posted May 13, 2013 1:52 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

….and when the odds come out the EXPERTS will be almost as CORRECT as I AM on that.

Posted May 13, 2013 1:24 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

I dont care who’s dumber. I care about who states more FACTS about Boxing. And like I SAID you BOTH fall lower on the totem pole than I DO.. ..They thought I was delusional when I took Marquez over Pacquiao by knockout but I was CORRECT. Floyd will beat Canelo by Defensive pot shotting CLINIC.

Posted May 13, 2013 1:19 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

TARK SAID Khan and Ortiz would give Floyd problems SO of COURSE he’s going to SAY Canelo will give him problems. The FACT is that Canelo is just too slow of hand and foot. Even IF he miraculously matches Floyd in the SKILLS and Boxing IQ departments he’ll LOSE.

Posted May 13, 2013 1:15 am 


TARK

Sredmond is dumber…. You’re more delusional.

Posted May 13, 2013 1:14 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Nope. You both fall below ME on the Boxing totem pole but thats nothing to be ashamed of. I’m the BEST.

Posted May 13, 2013 1:11 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Floyd is more accurate and elusive than Canelo and thats basically what every Fight comes down to with Floyd. He’s more accurate AND elusive than everyone in the ENTIRE History of Boxing. IF he arrives in Top Form, which is what he’s going to DO with his Father in his corner, he can’t be BEAT.

Posted May 13, 2013 1:08 am 


TARK

Boxtra…. Sredmond is the only one dumber than you. You should be happy you’re not at the bottom of the heap.

Posted May 13, 2013 1:04 am 


Adrian

Lol I am not asking for Canelo fight ,let him fight paqiao !!!! Oohhhh now paqiao is no good right? But fighting Ortiz and Guerrero is tougher for him right? Lol …
He can stay undefited and got all those belts but did he fight the best? And how often ?
Beating baldomir and Judah in ww but not guys like Williams and cotto at the same weight
Says a lot , and not fighting p4p ne1 at a time paqiao who is smaller than him and beat the same Guys he beat and more ( clotey ,margarito) says a lot to me I don’t know about you ;)

Posted May 13, 2013 12:59 am 


TARK

Gee Whiz…. Floyd is the best fighter in the world and everyone knows it… He’s probably the GOAT.. However, he could get beat in his next fight if he fights Canelo, because the kid is good, and Floyd is getting more and more vulnerable with each passing year.. Floyd has had a lifestyle where he kept all kinds of crazy hours and did things that weren’t the best for his body.. Nobody knew China Chinned Terry Norris was going to wipe the floor with Ray Leonard.. Nobody had a clue Leon Stinks was going to whip Ali.. Nobody had an inkling that Vitali would not be able to finish the Byrd fight.. Nobody saw Ken Norton beating the tail off Ali.. Nobodly guessed McCall was going to cool Lewis.. Just to state a masterful result for Floyd against one of the best young fighters of the past 20 years, when Floyd has just produced less than masterful results in one of his most recent fights (Cotto) just shows a lack of intelligence and knowledge.

Posted May 13, 2013 12:56 am 


Adrian

Lol now rios is just another bum? Lol
Let me tell you something sredmond ,if paqiao would fight Guerrero I guarantee you he would stop him and beat much more impressively than mayweather did tko ‘d or not …you probably didn’t think Lewis was damaged after he got ko’d by Rahman and I am sure you had no problem for him to rematch Rahman but paqiao is done right? Lol
The same paqiao will beat everyone in ww including Marquez!

Posted May 13, 2013 12:49 am 


SREDMOND

Being undefeated when you have been in 21 World title fights beaten several HOFers been a World Champ since you were 21, fought and won titles in 5 divisions means ALOT….. When you are 36 and guys cannot put a loss on your record that means something….Floyds not even prime boxing age and he is still taking guys to school…. You seem to have a BIG issue with Mayweather never losing, its a RARE And things that are unusual often scare people hence the Salem Witch Trials….. Mayweathers last 7 fights had 4 HOFER’s 3 guys were Champs in 3 weights one was a 6 weight Champ, a 5th guy was lineal Champ at 140 and undefeated but he was knocked flat…. AGAIN all this is dismissed in lieu of Canelos record? If Canelo is the guy who Floyd has to prove himself against then sell me on Canelo? What are his 4 BEST wins excluding Trout who you will be FORCED to hang on to like a rubber TIT….

Posted May 13, 2013 12:43 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, AGAIN I see the man behind the curtain I’m a Canelo fan but where is the rest of his resume….?????? Matthew Hatton, Alfonso Gomez, Josesito Lopez, Jose Miguel Cotto, a DEAD version of Shane Mosley coming off 3 unsucessful bouts in a row…. Canelo is a good young fighter but you are a HYPE monger…. I think Broner is a very good young fighter as well but I don’t compare him with Marquez, Pacquiao, Mayweather or Ward…. Guys who have been doing it for YEARS at the World Level…. Canelo has ONE World Class 154 pounder on his resume and he is a light puncher who’s resume was built off Cotto who took a loss to Floyd in the bout prior…..Canelo is NOT elusive, he showed better head movement against Trout but NEITHER mans hands and timing is in the same universe as Floyd who unless Canelo can land the big shot would pound his face to burger hes too damn slow of hand and foot…..What you gonna listen to a Shane Mosley testimonial? Everyone looks fast to Shane these days…

Posted May 13, 2013 12:38 am 


Adrian

Sredmond ..I took messi as an example because I wanted to make a point that staying undefited dosent mean anything and even if you have belts dosent make you the better then someone who lost but fought everyone and proved is the best …

Again I said if mayweather won’t fight at 154 I understand and no one should push him BUT if he claims he is the best at that devision too and wants too campaign in that weight than he should shut up and fight the best at that weight and stop the complaining …am I right or wrong?

Posted May 13, 2013 12:37 am 


SREDMOND

Yeah Canelo IS hiding at 154 he is coming to the ring at 172 which is VERY big for a 154 pound fighter… AGAIN I want you to be OK with Floyd taking 20 pounds on a fighter… So what he fought there 2x in 17 years he did not say he was going to spend the rest of his career there… He has had a total of 44 professional fights and 42 were BELOW 154 pounds…. So trying to sell FMJ as this 36 year old dyed in the wool 154 pounder is nonsense… If he wants to fight there he can, if he wants to fight at his best weight of 147 he can…. AGAIN Floyd holds all the cards and these fighters wanna blow the old man for a shot at a real payday….

Posted May 13, 2013 12:33 am 


TARK

Anybody who is 22 years old, undefeated in 43 fights, universally recognized as the best fighter in the world at 154, and is the most talked about viable opponent for Floyd Mayweather Jr has a future in Boxing.

Canelo might die tomorrow… Right now he has a bright future in Boxing.. Paul Williams had a good career.. At 22 he had a bright future in Boxing as well … The world could explode tomorrow for all we know but we lay the foundations of buildings that will be completed in 2020 anyway. I’m pretty sure the Mayweather-Canelo fight will be made. I like both guys a lot. I believe Mayweather will do well in the fight, but to suggest he will box the ass off of Canelo and shred his face is just being stupid and ignorant. Canelo is elusive, fast, skilled, powerful, tough, smart, young, extremely talented, and getting better with every fight. He just beat a guy who boxed Cotto’s ass off. So although Floyd might beat him — it won’t be easy.

Posted May 13, 2013 12:33 am 


SREDMOND

Ward didn’t “MAKE” Dawson comedown…. Chad stood in the ring AFTER beating Hopkins and he challenged for Wards belt in front of the World and then he showed up and got taken to school…. Dawson rehydrated to his full weight of 180 and change and got his beating…. To his credit he NEVER used anything as an excuse except saying now Great a Champ that Ward was…

Posted May 13, 2013 12:30 am 


SREDMOND

Because Oscar made a BAD decision everyone else should follow suit and for the record Oscar MADE Hopkins fight him at 157 pounds which is a catchweight fight just like Hopkins fought Pavlik at a catchweight of 170…If you are gonna talk boxing with me have your facts in order…. Oscar definitely tried to bring Hopkins down who was a big MW…..

Posted May 13, 2013 12:27 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, wakeup and accept reality whatever your thoughts about the Pacquiao fight… Pac Man is not even viable at the moment he just got knocked cold why would Floyd fight the guy? He would get a big paycheck and not enough credit because Manny got slaughtered and who’s fault is that?? Let Pacquiao rehab his image and even then Golden Boy and Top Rank have NOT made a fight in YEARS…. When is the last time that Pacquiao fought ANYONE not with Top Rank?? He is slated to fight Rios who is what?? DRUMROLL a Top Rank fighter so lets get real….I get it you don’t like FMJ thats cool but he is certified ON TOP of the sport and thats validated by ALL credible rankings, his overwhelming popularity and the 85 million he earned in ONE fiscal year….. Its Floyd Mayweathers World..

Posted May 13, 2013 12:25 am 


Adrian

Delahoya ballooned himself to fight p4p fighter like Hopkins he didn’t ask Hopkins to drop and fight him like ward did to Dawson ,if Canelo is “hiding ” lol at 154 than Hopkins did the same because he fought ww’s at his weights like Trinidad and odh…

Posted May 13, 2013 12:25 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, my statement stands prior to beating Trout, Canelo was MORE potential than substance… Andre Ward has FAR fewer bouts than Canelo even though he is older but look at the quality of fighters he has beat… Guys NATIVE to his division or bigger…. World Champions like Kessler, Froch, Dawson, Abraham and the rest…. Whereas the ONLY boxer worth discussing on Canelos resume is TROUT who’s rep is based on beating Cotto who had just taken a LOSS….I like Canelo and Broner as young, promising talents but these guys are not cemented in stone as being at the top of the sport in 3-5 years that has to be PROVED by consistently beating World Class Opposition…

Posted May 13, 2013 12:21 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, the viability of your argument ENDS with mentioning “Baby Joe Mesi” who was NEVER considered the best HW in the world or anything close unless you don’t know boxing… Floyd Mayweather is a 5 division Champion who was lineal in 3 divisions… Baldomir was nobodies great fighter but he had upset Judah and had the belt so Floyd took the belt off his hands and then beat the fighter that he was slated to fight for it in the first place the perceived better boxer (Judah) and dominated him…. Again I REALLY want you to tell me what makes Austin Trout such a GREAT fighter? Roy Jones Jr won the HW Championship against John Ruiz but he did NOT campaign there… Roys legacy was cemented at 175 and below….Mayweather has fought at 154 2x in a total of 17 years how does this brand him as a 154 pounder… I KNOW you will dismiss all empirical evidence that discusses his fight night weights (never more than 151 Dan Rafael ESPN) his weights 30 days out 149 Ortiz, he weighed in at 146 for Guerrero BUT because its FMJ you want him to eat that 20 plus pounds with no objections… I think the Canelo bout will happen and I don’t know the terms… But lets look at the facts, Floyd was fighter of the year when he was 21 years OLD, he has been P4P since he torched Corrales over 10 years ago and as of today he is P4P best and the most well paid athlete in the world…. Its impossible to sell Mayweather as anything but Great he is 36 and trying to wind down his career, those who are NOT sold won’t be no matter who he beats… If its Canelo and Pacquiao there will be excuses even though both men are YOUNGER (Canelo 14 years) than FMJ so why would he seek to appease anyone but himself??

Posted May 13, 2013 12:17 am 


Adrian

@Sredmond … So now with Canelo the issue is his weight right and the discussion is needed about that? But just before he beat Austin I didn’t hear anyone complain about his weight but were saying he is not proven and has no chance against mayweather ? What changed ????
Martinez had no problem fighting Chavez who came over 180 punds …and cotto against trout who came 171 pounds at fight night … Listen I don’t care if mayweather fight Canelo or not but why the complaining now ???what changed??

Posted May 13, 2013 12:15 am 


TARK

Somebody posted…., “Ali, Frazier, Leonard and Hearns all demonstrated the valor and grace that FIGHTERS WITH CHARACTER POSSESS. They were willing to take that gamble.”

What gambles??? And what about all the fighters they ducked???

Ali fought Leon Stinks (6-0-1) instead of Larry Holmes (27-0)… Wladimir Klitschko fought top contender David Haye at the same age…

Frazier chose unranked Jumbo Cummings as a comeback opponent … Vitali Klitschko chose Heavyweight Champion Sam Peter (31-1) as a comeback opponent—at age 37, and after 4 years of inactivity.

Leonard never defended the middleweight championship he won from Hagler. The top contenders for Leonard were guys like Mike McCallum, Michael Nunn, and Julian Jackson. Leonard was stripped of the title for cherry-picking … At 35 Floyd went up to 154, a weight he can’t maintain, to beat ATG 3-Division World Champion Miguel Cotto.

Hearns fought Iran Barkley. But wouldn’t fight the tougher guys who beat Barkley—like Michael Nunn, Sambu Kalambay, Nigel Benn, and James Toney.. Floyd Mayweather will soon be in negotiations to fight undefeated Universally Recognized Jr. Middleweight Champion Canelo Alvarez, who outweighs Floyd by 25 pounds and is 14 years younger.

Posted May 13, 2013 12:13 am 


Adrian

Sredmond @ joe mesi never lost to and many more but outside diehard boxing fans no one knows them ,hell myself never lost in amaters as a 47 with only one draw but history don’t remember me because my carrier ended early unfortunately but anyway when it comes to mayweather it all depends on him he achieved a lot in boxing and he can retire now if he wants but he will have a lot of question marks by historians for not fighting the best opponent like p4p nr.1 at one time paqiao then Williams cotto when they were belt holders and undefited in ww devision and he fought the guy like baldomir who had 8 losses and couldn’t brake an egg then he retire ??? And fighting cotto at 154 now but not Canelo and trout will add more question marks to his legacy ,and personally this is the reason that I can’t stand mayweather,his picking and avoiding certain fighters by attacking them for bellony reasons !!!!!i always said if mayweather vs paqiao fought mayweather will win but he has to fight him for gads sakes and stop the nonesense like “paqiao is on juice” than ” i want more split” then i dont do bussines witharum”then the bigger purse” and now “he is no good for me” like khan Guerrero Ortiz or breadly are better then paqiao pfffff…

Posted May 13, 2013 12:05 am 


SREDMOND

Rapid, Floyd having fought at 154 2x does NOT mean he has to spot another fighter 20 pounds… The CAT is out of the BAG everyone knows that Canelo is a guy who is hiding out at 154 he is really walking around fight night coming to the ring at 172…. AGAIN this is an issue thats gonna generate some discussion…. AGAIN what would you say if Floyd was going to be 20 pounds heavier than one of his opponents on fight night? He spotted Ortiz 14 which is PLENTY in professional boxing…. AGAIN we KNOW that if a boxer gets in with a big enough guy its going to be an issue thats why there are divisions… Chavez Jr fighting a guy coming up from 154 is going to be SCORNED because everyone KNOWS that Chavez comes to the ring in the 180’s and its not an accurate representation of who he will be on fight night…. Reality is this would be getting a TON of heat IF the smaller man were NOT Floyd Mayweather Jr…. In his case the detractors cry is “Give Canelo the 14 years AND the 22 pounds” Whatever when the smoke clears Canelo is not gonna be the guy to beat Mayweather and he’s going to look bad doing it….

Posted May 12, 2013 11:44 pm 


SREDMOND

As for Floyd beating him from a skills perspective its an EASY call to make there is NOTHING that Canelo does better than Floyd technically… His ONLY hope is his being 2 divisions bigger fight night and landing a big shot….I think there are plenty of guys at 168 that would outmuscle FMJ and wear him down due to their size but we have divisions for a reason and thats to somewhat level the playing field. Spotting a guy 22 pounds is ALOT in this sport, if Floyd came to the ring 20 pounds heavier than anyone his detractors would put out a hit… But alas Mayweathers detractors secretly have more confidence in him than his fans…. They know damn good and well that in his best weight class of 147 he is unbeatable absent Father Time taking his skills….Thats why we are hearing about the GGG’s and Martinez of the world for a guy who is 36 and really has not put on a pound in YEARS….Again I am starting to want to see Mayweather really make an example of Canelo and cut him to ribbons with that right hand on that big head…

Posted May 12, 2013 11:37 pm 


TARK

Sredmond…, “I like Canelo and I think he might have a future in the sport”

Nice call Sred… Canelo MIGHT have a future in Boxing—especially since he’s 22 years old, is undefeated in 43 professional fights, is a unified World Champion, is the most dominant guy at his weight, and the most talked about viable opponent for Floyd Mayweather Jr … He could have a future in Boxing. You think?

Sredmond…, “After Floyd puts a beating on Canelo and makes him look hapless.” … Nice talk.. Before you have Floyd slashing Alvarez to ribbons and giving the slow-assed kid Frankenstein feet, let’s see how the fight actually plays out. Trout beat Cotto by the same score Floyd did—without catching as many crackling jabs in the snoot. Canelo was able to hurt the Undefeated World Champion Trout — and avoid any damaging blows in return. So a Floyd fight is pretty damned obvious.

Posted May 12, 2013 10:47 pm 


Rapid

Floyd asking Canello to come down to 47, or do a catchweight fight would be no big deal, if he hadn’t already fought 2x at 54 already. Having done that, plus stating multiple times that” I don’t do catch weights, I want to beat the guy at his weight” Doesn’t work that way!!

Posted May 12, 2013 7:47 pm 


The Prince

Yup, Pacman and Toprank are hypocrites asking for random drug testing now. And guess what? Arum still won’t let Manny fight Floyd Mayweather. They’ll still come up with excuses why the fight can’t happen, if Manny gets past Rios in satisfying fashion. Of course, the Pactards and “I want Floyd to lose” haters will find a way to blame Mayweather, anyway. Simply put, people don’t want Floyd to retire undefeated. And the closer Floyd is done with this 6 fight mega-deal, the more the haters will be panicking. Fortunately, unlike Roy Jones, Floyd does what he wants and doesn’t let haters pressure him into making career mistakes.

Posted May 12, 2013 7:39 pm 


K.C.

Fake Fraud…This is boring! I’m out!

Posted May 12, 2013 7:17 pm 


jay

Floyd and his nut huggers didn’t mind Floyd taking on Cotto at the 154 pounds,,,,gee I wonder why.

Posted May 12, 2013 7:15 pm 


jay

Isn’t Floyd the #1 p4p ,the man of steel, the unstoppable, 44 and 0 so why worry when his only fighting a 22 year old frsckle face Mexican kid, besides isn’t these kind of fights that Floyd been fighting.

Posted May 12, 2013 7:07 pm 


Anonymous

Im tired of mayweather nut huggers making excuses for floyd to keep cherry picking washed up fighters and still calling himself great. If your great floyd then take dangerous fights coz that is what great fighters do.

Posted May 12, 2013 6:52 pm 


FEARS

I’m sick of everybody trying to push Floyd into fighting much bigger guys than himself such as Canelo, Maravilla and GGG. Canelo has enough business to handle in his own weight division (which he has been avoiding for quite some time now), such as Lara, Angulo, Kirkland. Or the little fat kid can move up to fight either Maravilla, GGG, Chavez Jr.(which would be a smash in Mexico), or Quillin. The fight that makes the most sense for Floyd is Bradley, but due to the promotional war that probably won’t happen.

Posted May 12, 2013 6:38 pm 


stupid loser

@Tomato Can agreed, Lara/Alvarez makes more sense. I’d rather see Bradley/Mayweather in a one sided affair.
@Sredmond, Broner is a long way off from ever thinking Mayweather, but you know with a win again PM, the majority will be calling for it, especially if Broner wins in a convincing manner.
Truth is, there is no one below middle that proposes a threat FMJ. Now i wish FMJ would close out these last fights by taking out the competition, my biggest complaint.

Posted May 12, 2013 5:55 pm 


Tomato Can

I would rather see Lara/Canelo than Mayweather/Canelo any day.

Posted May 12, 2013 4:32 pm 


SREDMOND

Floyd vs Broner is a COMPLETE contradiction against all these haters who whine about Floyd facing Marquez who is about 25x more established as a World Class fighter as Broner is…. Adrian is a young talent who never beat a 140 pounder he would get smashed fighting Floyd… NO ONE can say how he is gonna look at 147, thats why Malignaggi was chosen so that if it goes bad the loss should be survivable… Whereas a 147 pounder with a punch like Berto or even the erratic Ortiz might cause an issue due to their power…Again scrambing and looking for any and everybody to beat Mayweather is the all consuming passion of his detractors and their dreams have an expiration date….. 5 more bouts!

Posted May 12, 2013 4:30 pm 


Tomato Can

Lara would be a hell of a fight for Canelo. I think it would be a great back and forth fight.

Posted May 12, 2013 4:28 pm 


SREDMOND

Q, My opinion of Lara dropped some off of the fight with Vanes and Molina I believe… He has real talent but I’m leery of guys who are still fighting for respect in boxing yet they don’t keep the momentum… Canelo knows he has ALOT of expectation and to his credit Trout is a southpaw boxer who could have been even more problematic…. As for FMJ at 154, its NOT his best weight we can agree on that but after putting a beating on Canelo and making him look hapless he is NOT gonna fight GGG who is a MW thats just stupid especially given Golovkin being unknown to hardcore fans….

Posted May 12, 2013 4:26 pm 


Q

We are talking about hypothesis and such, but if FMJ opts to fight Canelo, and Canelo accepts, I’m picking FMJ to win that fight. I really just don’t like Floyd yo-yoing in weight at his age, he’ll destroy his body. Canelo is ducking GGG. SREDMAN, I don’t agree with you on Lara being too inactive against Canelo… Canelo isn’t the most active fighter, he likes to counter, and even gasses after 5 rounds. If you remember that bout it ended with Lara beginning to time Vanes and hit him with every straight left hand he threw. Lara stacks of favorable against Canelo… Vanes also… if he’s gassing after 5 rounds, he’s not getting the edge against some of these guys IMO.

Posted May 12, 2013 4:12 pm 


Q

Joekid: “Interesting observation from a poster way below. Will Mayweather’s hit & run success spawn a new generation of boxers???? What if Amir Khan sticks with that style for a whole fight? Who can catch him???? Trainers will be recruiting sprinters to teach boxing! Usain Bolt in the ring!!! What excitement!!!!” – Shut up stupid, you think Khan tries to do anything else? he gets caught in between moving because his punch technique leaves him open. You think Khan wants to be getting his brains knocked out? He can’t not get hit… and Floyd is actually an extremely underrated pressure fighter, Guerrero was backing up or setting to TRY to counter virtually the entire fight, he only started pressing to end the fight, because he was getting beat up on the back foot. You have no understanding of boxing whatsoever, BUT… that’s EXACTLY the type of boxing ignorance I expect from Mayweather detractors. Keep it up.

Posted May 12, 2013 4:04 pm 


Done Deal

Fans want to see PBF vs. Bronner just cause of the style similarities. Floyd is still much more polished than Andrian. Lets not forget when Floyd fought between 130-140 he KO’d or TKO’d almost all of his opponents.

Posted May 12, 2013 3:25 pm 


Tomato Can

There are a lot of tuff guys in boxing who take a lot of shots and recieve a lot of damage, yet go on to win the majority of their fights. My hat goes off to fighters like that, but the sport is called boxing and it’s not a tuffman contest.

Posted May 12, 2013 3:24 pm 


Done Deal

These ignorant haters want Floyd to be a punching bag. Want him to stand in front of opponents and see who can take the most punches. Thats not boxing. That type of fighting does not require much skill which is why fighters that have that style get completely out classed when fight people like Floyd, Ward, Hopkins, Bronner, etc… That is most latin fighters style. Sit there and be a punching bag, and some of you think that is skill. Yall appreciate fighters like Gatti who take 300 punches in a fight, but ridicule Floyd because his opponents cant hit him. None sense.

Posted May 12, 2013 3:21 pm 


Tomato Can

A Pactard can rationalize anything in regards to Pacquiao… The fact is, Pacquiao now realizes that PED’s are a concern, and he don’t like the feeling of getting knocked the F out. I think we can all safely say that getting stuck with needles is better than getting put to sleep by a punch you leaped into. Too bad he and his team didn’t have the foresight to recognize the PED concern three years ago.

Posted May 12, 2013 3:20 pm 


Done Deal

It does not matter who Floyd beats. The haters will continue to make excuses. If he beats Canelo there will be more excuses such as weight, experience, etc…. Bottom line is there is no fighter Floyd could beat to satisfy the haters. Thats a FACT.

Posted May 12, 2013 3:16 pm 


stupid loser

I don’t see the size of Alvarez helping his cause against Mayweather. It is not like Mayweather will be in front to trade or wrestle. It will be pot shot and move, and I will take a guess and say with a ridiculous hit/don’t be hit percentage. I hope Mayweather picks a fighter with more of a boxing style to face. Everyone knows after the Broner fight with PM, most will be crying out for a Broner/Mayweather fight to happen.

Posted May 12, 2013 3:07 pm 


boxxman

Any of you guys read the news about manny asking for PED testing now?? what a dumb ass…not that he’s clean he’s asking for PED testing… manny camps didnt want it when he was juicing and now he’s asking for it…. freaking looser. hes no longer scared of needles now??? i hope the pactards call him out for what he really is….

Posted May 12, 2013 2:51 pm 


Happyboy

I say just bring that Cinnamon kid on for a beating even @154lbs. Easy money!

Posted May 12, 2013 2:27 pm 


SREDMOND

Man give it a rest you loser’s on here want Mayweather to change his style in order to give his opponents a better shot of landing that is simply NOT a true boxing fans perspective…. Floyd Mayweather Jr is a PURE boxer, if boxing purity was measured on a scale of 50-100 with 100 being the highest application of the art, Floyd would be 110…. There is NOT a single long term professional that operates at his level for the duration of time he has…Canelo’s job is going to be cutting off the ring with those Frankenstein feet of his and trying to land something meaningful…. Good LUCK!! Oscar De La Hoya was a BETTER fighter than Canelo when he faced Floyd and despite giving a spirited effort he could not get any real leather on Floyd and when he been a close win over Austin Trout qualifies Canelo to dethrone Floyd you have another thing coming…. Totally different level of boxer Mayweathers an aging ATG and Canelo is a very good young fighter who’s true upside is still up for discussion…. The gap in class is MASSIVE…. You guys are too busy jacking off to his “Cinnamon Hairslowed down like Canelo will he was getting outboxed…. Oscar had fought God knows how many World Class fighters if you think what should have

Posted May 12, 2013 2:14 pm 


Public Enemy

It’s finally show time for do Nothing CinnaBum.. Both Floyd and Cotto have said they’re ok with a match as long as Cinnabum is not allowed to pull his Tijuana Weight Gain Tricks and he undergoes Random Blood testing.. something we all know the Juicer will not agree to.. He’s basically screwed because he can’t sit on those belts forever.. he’s been avoiding Cuban Mandatory Lara for over a year and a half and now because of the new Belts Quinlin, Rosado and a few others are Mandatories.. I don’t see Canelo going past 2103 without getting his ASS kicked like Chavez Cheato Jr. did by Old Sergio Martinez…

Posted May 12, 2013 1:56 pm 


Public Enemy

So it was OK for Delahoya to force Hopkins to go down to 157lbs because supposedly Delahoya could not make 160lbs but it’s not OK for Mayweather who cannot go to 154lbs to agree to fighting do nothing Canelo at 147lbs??? the Double Standards these Chihuahuas have is unbelievable..

Posted May 12, 2013 1:51 pm 


Patrick2

Patrick2, are you sure you’ve seen the Leonards, Benitez, Hearns, Whitakers and other greats fighters?

I’m freakin’ old, but I still have my memory. I used to watch Ali on Wide World of Sports and watched Leonard during the ’76 Olympics. I was in the military and living in VA when Sweet Pea was on his way up.

Mayweather had his butt kicked against Castillo

Castillo was a very good fighter wasn’t he? And Floyd was still a bit on the young side when they first fought, right? And Floyd still got the decision, right? It happens. Delahoya got dropped a few times on his way up, but he learned and got better. So did Floyd.

and old De La Hoya had him beat,

Put down the crack pipe. Delahoya didn’t do much more than flail-away — most all his inside work in that fight was nothin’ but shoe shinning. And Floyd took his jab away.

and you actually think he would have stood a chance of beating those greats and others I mentioned. Those legends could fight and figure out any style.

No question. You’re glossing over history. Floyd adapts to different styles better than they did. And athletes today are better trained than ones years ago –it’s a progression of [boxing] knowledge that keeps getting passed down.

A runner like Floyd would be put in places he wouldn’t like.

“Runner”. It’s called boxing. Hit, don’t get hit. You should watch it some time.

Sorry my friend, those guys would have beaten him hands down. All those guys I mentioned threw combinations effortlessly. Have you ever seen Mayweather throw more than a 2 punch combination? Do you think those legends would allow him to counter? No, No, No. Those guys were all around great fighters.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. Floyd’s punches hurt because of the variety and his timing. He hits exactly when you don’t want to get hit/or expect to get hit — and those shots hurt much more than the big telegraphed clubbing shots.
That’s why his opponents are unable to walk him down and land big bombs.

Anyway, pay closer attention to Floyd’s fights, maybe you’ll learn something.

Posted May 12, 2013 1:21 pm 


PILLOWFIST

If I may, I’d like to throw some of the same expectations on Canelo that people have of Floyd. Canelo, if he’s the man, should move up and fight Ward. He has more fights than Ward and is a huge Jr middle weight. Who’s with me?

Posted May 12, 2013 1:20 pm 


Papo

I’m not Floyd’s fan by any means as, like most boxing fans, believe he’s an ass, however, let’s be fair. When Pac fought and won titles using catch-weights to his own advantages, many posters here praised him for wining those titles. Now, some of these same fans who applauded the king of the catch-weight are against Floyd fighting Canelo at 147.

As far as I’m concern, Floyd doesn’t have to agree to anything from Canelo. Floyd has already established his credentials and has earned the rights to be one of the greatest and smarter fighters in boxing history. Why shall he be the one agreeing to the demand’s when Canelo has been fighting carefully orchestrated fights?

He barely made it past Trout and if it wasn’t because of the knockdown, he would have lost the fight. But even with the knockdown, the fight should have been called a draw. Canelo really has two choices; fight Floyd on Floyd’s terms or chose legit light middleweight fighters.

Posted May 12, 2013 1:12 pm 


stupid loser

Alvarez was very unimpressive against Trout and has shown he cannot deal with even a basic mover like Trout. Alvarez will be an EASY, VERY EASY, victory for Mayweather. I would rather see a “boxing” version of Bradley fighting Mayweather.
The sad truth is Mayweather is in the top 10 to 15 of all time greats, yes all time, but will be at the bottom of the list because of his play it safe unwillingness/inability to close out a fight with TKO/KO’s.
The other sad truth is, I see no one middle weight or below that has a chance to beat Mayweather.

Posted May 12, 2013 12:27 pm 


JoeKidd

Interesting observation from a poster way below. Will Mayweather’s hit & run success spawn a new generation of boxers???? What if Amir Khan sticks with that style for a whole fight? Who can catch him???? Trainers will be recruiting sprinters to teach boxing! Usain Bolt in the ring!!! What excitement!!!!

Posted May 12, 2013 11:35 am 


SREDMOND

Losing steam against Mayweather is suicide he gets sharper as the bout goes on… Fatigue compromises a fighters ability to defend or pull his punches back quickly enough, against FMJ the results are predictable blazing counters and lead right hands landing with embarrassing regularity and sharpness…I would Canelo the edge over all the fighters mentioned Lara is too inactive like he was against Vanes, Rosado is made for Canelo and Cotto is coming off 2 losses… But Cotto in my mind matches up better with Canelo than Trout who was taller and heavier, Cotto has a GREAT jab when he’s on his game and he punches much harder than Trout I’m not sure they can sell it given Miguel losing 2x but he’s a live dog…

Posted May 12, 2013 9:02 am 


Public Enemy

Can you imagine what would happen to Canelo when he gasses out in the 5th round like he did vs trout if he were fighiting Mayweather? Cotto? Quinlin?, Lara? Rosado??? This hyped up Cinnabum is a KTFO waiting to happen once he faces a fighter his size with even a little punching power… Canelo is a nobody, absolutely no USA PPV appeal.. Only Mexicans bought his PPV everyone else went to a sports bar to watch his pretty lame performance vs feather fisted Trout..

Posted May 12, 2013 8:50 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, Mayweathers the P4P King of boxing this “of he wants to” statement
Implies that he has something to prove or needs to do anything… He can retire today and he’s an undefeated ATG…..Floyd’s career did not somehow comedown to Canelo who has not proven that much in his SHORT career at the World class level…

Posted May 12, 2013 7:56 am 


SREDMOND

Spartacus, when Hearns stopped Duran WELL above his best weight how many miles did Duran have on him??? 1000’s ….. Duran had over 70 bouts when he faced Leonard years before, pretending he was fresh meat is nonsense… Guys need to keep it real it’s Floyd’s time and he’s richer and more in control of boxing than any of these guys ever were… I respect Ray, Tommy and Duran but FMJs not sitting around spent at 34 or badly brain damaged like Hearns taking KO losses to a Gump like Iran Barkley…

Posted May 12, 2013 7:49 am 


SREDMOND

Give it a rest I like Canelo and I think he might have a future in the sport but this is a guy who’s only got ONE victory on his docket with some cache and you’re treating him like a Messiah… Alvarez has been carefully brought along which was somewhat fair due to his age buy suddenly a points win over Austin Trout has him branded as what??? Canelos not a P4P fighter he’s been getting in the ring at 170 plus beating up spent forces like Cintron and Mosley who last won against Margo and was then taken to school by fellow 30 something Floyd Mayweather… Canelo has a TON to prove, he is a guy they are looking to position him for big fights that’s why he’s looking at a Mayweather/Trout leftover like Cotto who took UD losses in succession… I don’t hear talk about the other relevant 154 pounders operating today? EVERYONE wants to fight Floyd sonwhats original about that?? But assuming they scrap Alvarez is going to look extremely ordinary, he’s WAYYYYY to slow of foot and despite good speed his transitions between offense and defense would look like a time lapsed camera to FMJ who has bested quicker fighters….Since you guys have anointed Canelo as dragons layer I hope you’re ready to heap praise on
Mayweather when he takes Jr to school… Floyd has won almost as many World Title fights as years Canelo has been alive 21….

Posted May 12, 2013 7:43 am 


RapidOne08

Canelo move yo big ass up money hungry coward

Posted May 12, 2013 5:16 am 


hookoffthejab

open scoring lol what was one of the cards ? 118/111? lmao !

Posted May 12, 2013 5:03 am 


Adrian

Lefthook , you probably don’t know the fight had the open scoring canelo was leading big time and he knew it especially after the knockdown that’s why he wasn’t pushing more Austin was the one who should have change things and try something different because he was behind score card and he failed …anyway at least these two fought eachother so until mayweather fights one of these guys then you can tell us how much better mayweather is the those two ,btw Austin was the one who beat cotto right after mayweather much easier so at least we know that fact!

Posted May 12, 2013 4:58 am 


hookoffthejab

ANd then everybody kept going on about Sauls great defense this that and whatever ..

Posted May 12, 2013 4:07 am 


hookoffthejab

LOL Canelo ran from fighting with Austin ! Trout hurt Canelo to the body, and to get over that CANELO kept his distance from Trout .

Posted May 12, 2013 4:04 am 


Adrian

Mayweather nay have more pop and skill then Austin trout but can he take the punch better then Austin trout ?that’s the big question…

Posted May 12, 2013 3:46 am 


Adrian

Ok lefthook you may be right but wouldn’t you like to see the fight to find out?

Posted May 12, 2013 3:44 am 


hookoffthejab

LOL Mayweather would be way to much for Canelo 154 or whatever he came in at. Not only that but Floyd has more pop than Austin Trout and a lot more skill as well !

Posted May 12, 2013 3:26 am 


Adrian

If mayweather wants to remain the champ at 154 than he should fight boxers who are at that same weight there, is that simple it would veq different story if mayweather never fought at 154 and Canelo to call him out and fight him at 154 but if mayweather wants to be the champ at 154 than he should fight just like everyone else if he thinks that Canelo is to big for him at fight night than he shouldn’t step in to the 154 territory at all!

Posted May 12, 2013 3:11 am 


Adrian

Peej…. You probably didnt watch the fight odh vs mayweather because I don’t know how ca you say mayweather beat Oscar easy when Mayweather lost first 6 rounds to Oscar clearly because he just circled and didn’t even punch ??? I had the fight115 -113 for Oscar wich btw one judge had the same score and also floyed sr.said mayweather lost and that’s why they suppose to have a reamatch but mayweather retire In His prime ,why??
I would recommend you to do some more reasearch because since you mentioned mayweather early carrier than you should mention also the fact that when mayweather went up in ww he chose baldomir to fight who had 8 losses at a time and was the weakest champ at ww at that time ,he durn fight cotto ,Williams margarito undefited ,why ??? We’re they not good for him?

Posted May 12, 2013 2:52 am 


Mick the Marmalizer

If it’s gonna be Saul Alvarez then team Canelo need to stand there ground & have the fight @ 154Lb. Remember PBF was for a time WBA champion @ that weight, so where’s the problem? If Floyd wants his legacy as #1 P4P in the World then he should take the fight at light-middleweight!

Posted May 12, 2013 2:48 am 


TARK

Floyd and Pac WILL fight if Pac gets his act together and whips Rios and Marquez… He has to stop getting smashed through the canvas… Pac’s last fight was his 3rd KO loss — to a guy who couldn’t win a round off Mayweather. Pac has to pick it up.

BTW, Robert Byrd was definitely a Mayweather referee in this last fight w/ Guerrero.. That fact seemed to escape just about everybody. In some of those clinches Byrd was breaking up, Guerrero had a hand free and was punching. You’re allowed to keep punching your opponent if you have one hand free to punch. It’s not a breaking situation until both arms of both fighters are locked up or holding. Of course you can’t rabbit punch or throw another illegal blow so in those situations he was right to stop it and issue a warning.

Posted May 12, 2013 2:37 am 


Adrian

Zurdo I agree with the post when you said mayweather never fought a prime and live opponent but not the last post what you said about the American media..

Posted May 12, 2013 1:46 am 


Adrian

Zurdo ..you are correct 100%

Posted May 12, 2013 1:44 am 


zurdo40

Floyd was the boxing star that american media need. Heavyweight was dominated by europe through lennox and klitchko brothers. odh is american (and White) but his mexican roots are a blemish. Pacquiao was asian. So hbo and american media supported Floyd to be that american boxing star. I bet that they would prefer a White guy, but that was not posible. Floyd is the american hero.

Posted May 12, 2013 1:41 am 


zurdo40

Done deal: ODH, Cotto, Mosely, Marquez, Gatti, and Corrales.

ODH was retired practically.And even a lot of people thinks odh won.
Cotto was goods damages. Two brutally ko losses. he was a plooded 154 lbs.
Mosley was so old. Fight took place in 2010. Mosley prime was 90’s to 2002-2003. Marquez a major time featherweight in his first fight over 135. Actually Floyd did not want to give his weight at fight time, he also broke the weight contract. Gatti an Corrales HOF????? rip for both but none of both is HOF material. Actually Floyd has not victories over prime boxing stars.

Posted May 12, 2013 1:32 am 


zurdo40

ODH, Cotto, Mosely, Marquez, Gatti, and Corrales.

Posted May 12, 2013 1:23 am 


jay

If Floyd is the best than why the fear of figting a 22 year old, first it was Magarito than a undefeated 147 Cotto than a Midget Fillipino Paquiao and now a 22 year old frekle face kid. why so much FEAR.

Posted May 12, 2013 1:17 am 


spartacus 65

Canelo needs to work on his game a bit more. No need to rush this fighter. Youth is on his side. He is frankly still a work in progress who has shown improvement. I would like to see him raise his defensive game up a notch or two. Also his stamina could use improvement. If his trainers are worth their salt then he should be a more well rounded fighter in no time. Gutsy of him to take on a good opponent like trout. It will serve him well in the future.

Posted May 12, 2013 1:11 am 


keyboard boxers

HAHA Floyd has 32 million opinions each fight. All you haters opinions worth as much as mine $0. But at least I don’t sound pathetic trying to pretend like I know something about boxing. YDSKAB. Facts are FACTS! Floyd is the best! He’s the most watch fighter ever! He’s the most talked about. His PPV numbers prove it. His pay checks prove it. 44-0 proves it. Never been knocked down proves it.

Quit pulling facts from your keyboards like you are relevant. YDKSAB!

Posted May 12, 2013 1:10 am 


jay

Canelo is 22 year old and WEIGHT is NOT a problem and I beleive that 147 would make Canelo Stronger and Faster at fight night.

Posted May 12, 2013 1:08 am 


Done deal

Can some one name a fighter in the game right now who has 17 world champions on there resume? To make it fair lets cut it down to 13.

Posted May 12, 2013 1:04 am 


jay

If Floyd was the real deal HBO would of Never let him go especially to Showtime.

Posted May 12, 2013 1:03 am 


Done deal

Y’all haters are speaking on opinions not fact.

Posted May 12, 2013 12:57 am 


Done deal

Crazy how y’all say Floyd beat Mosely, Cotto, and ODH past there prime but praise PAC for doing the same

Posted May 12, 2013 12:56 am 


jay

And isn’t Cotto better than Canelo and yet Floyd didn’t have a problem fighting Cotto at 154 pounds it doesn’t make any sense on why Floyd wants to spank a 22 year old kid at the 147 pound div.

Posted May 12, 2013 12:55 am 


Done deal

The Hate and ignorance continues. Now it’s a conspiracy theory why Floyd is undefeated lol. WHEN he beats Canelo, which I agree us his toughest opponent, the excuses will still continue. The FACT is that 44 have tried and 44 have failed. Of the 44, 17 were either former or current world champions when they fought Floyd. Between 6-7 are sure HOF fighters (ODH, Cotto, Mosely, Hatton, Corrales, Marquez, and Hernandez. Floyd has earned his stripes.

Posted May 12, 2013 12:54 am 


Tomato Can

sorry to hear that Largo…

Posted May 12, 2013 12:54 am 


Tomato Can

Jay, what the hell are you talking about? Do you even know? Pffttt. One things for certian, Mayweather and Pacquiao sure draw a lot of novice fans to this site…

Posted May 12, 2013 12:53 am 


largo

Floyd Jr re-union with his dad was particularly significant to me because I had similar problems with my father…the only difference is that Floyd had the opportunity to tell his dad he was sorry & he values him as a significant one…I wasn’t as lucky because my father died before i could say I was sorry…

Posted May 12, 2013 12:53 am 


spartacus 65

Sorry for any misspelling gentlemen. Having some trouble with the keys.

Posted May 12, 2013 12:53 am 


jay

Floyd INVENTED the Catchweight so why not fight Canelo at a Catchweight….besides didn’t Floyd fought Cotto at 154 pounds.

Posted May 12, 2013 12:51 am 


spartacus 65

With all due respect to Mr. Mayweather , the hall of fame fighters he raised his statistics against were in no way shape or form on the fistic ,elite skill level that the opponents leonard,hearns,duran and hagler etc. faced in their respevtive primes. This is not to denigrate Mr. Mayweather but just an observation that is shared by most objective and knowledgeable trainers,historians etc..When true battle yested and EVENLY matched FIGHTERS do face off they will certainly get hit,find feinting the other out if position much more difficult as opposed to when facing a lesser skilled opponent of a b class level. A perfect example of this would be Leonard vs benitez. World class skill fight in every sense of the word. Afterwards BOTH men came out out with an elevated game.

Posted May 12, 2013 12:50 am 


Tomato Can

Floyd has nothing to prove at this point, to think otherwise is just plain delusional. At 36, he has accomplished more in boxing than any clown on these boards trying to say he doesn’t take enough chances, and he has to fight Canelo or else… He’ll get paid well to fight whoever he chooses and when he retires, he’ll be a first ballot hall of famer. Not too bad for a boxer with no heart….

Posted May 12, 2013 12:48 am 


SREDMOND

The reason that guys are comparing Mayweather to Hearns, Leonard and others is because they are some of the only valid comparisons… Floyd’s an ATG and that’s set in stone, Ray Leonard said he would NEVER try to hit Floyd on he chin it’s too hard… Ray said that the Mosley bout showed him that despite FMJ “being crazy” he could compete in any era… But alas we know this!! Floyd has spent 50% of his career in World Title fights and he’s won all 21 that’s just insane!!

Posted May 12, 2013 12:39 am 


Done deal

Sooo because Floyd has not been in a lot of dog fights he has no heart. Because he has not list he has no heart . Because he choses to hit and not be hit, which is the art of boxing, he has no heart. Y’all talk about challenging ones self, Floyd has beat more than 6 HOF fighters, yet ignorance still says he has not tested himself. We have seen Floyd beat world champion fighters after breaking his hand during the fight, but y’all say he has not heart. Heart is the willingness to push through the toughest times, to not give up when things get tough, to preserver when your back is against the wall. PBF has enough heart to match his skill. The hate and ignorance some of you all show for this guy is ridiculous.

Posted May 12, 2013 12:33 am 


hecdog

Spartacus65, thank you for putting it so eloquently and clear. That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Agree 1000%

Posted May 12, 2013 12:30 am 


SREDMOND

Leonard could NEVER have gone undefeated, he lacked the discipline of a Floyd Mayweather… His love of cocaine and alcohol is foreign to the most disciplined and ready boxer of the last 20 years… Floyd never sleeps at the wheel, whereas Ray got a gift against Tommy during their second fight and by 34 Ray was living off his name and getting trounced by Terrible Terry Norris…Manny slipped he lost focus and he was blasted out by a guy FMJ toyed with..At 36 he’s still too good for World Champs 6-10 years younger… Alvarez is gonna be the latest in a long line of guys who can’t cut it against FMJ…

Posted May 12, 2013 12:28 am 


Done deal

Hecdog that is your opinion not a fact. What is a fact is that Leonard, Haggler, Hearns, or Robinson were undefeated. None of them has better defense than Floyd. None of them were more accurate punchers than Floyd. All of them got hit more than Floyd. None of them held titles longer than Floyd. None of them made it look as easy as Floyd vs. hall of fame opponents. Not saying that Floyd is better than them, but these are facts and not opinions.

Posted May 12, 2013 12:23 am 


spartacus 65

Hecdog, kudos to you my friend. I agree with you 100 percent in your previous assesmen t. I’ve seen the golden age of boxing, leonard,duran hearns, Salvador Sanchez,etc. And each had one thing in common,HEART. Playing it safe was NOT the rule of the day. Leonard himself said this in an interview roughly a year ago. Because of this philosophy and bravery these fighters raised their game to another level. So much emphasis in sports in general today, is placed on statistics. Mediocrity has taken the place of athletic integrity. Translation,HEART. In losing you find out about character. This is what seperates the men from the boys, pretender from the real thing. Its how you react to adversity ,a loss that shows what you are made of. Pacquiao,Ali, Frazier, leonard and hearns all demonstrated the valor and grace that FIGHTERS WITHCHARACTER POSSESS. They were willing to take that gamble. Also look to abenge that loss regardless of said risk. Its not about fancy numbers genltemen. Its called HEART.

Posted May 12, 2013 12:21 am 


Zoo

Only

Posted May 12, 2013 12:06 am 


Zoo

Done deal is the Bly mf who know what he’s talking about.

Posted May 12, 2013 12:05 am 


hecdog

Patrick2, are you sure you’ve seen the Leonards, Benitez, Hearns, Whitakers and other greats fighters? Mayweather had his butt kicked against Castillo and old De La Hoya had him beat, and you actually think he would have stood a chance of beating those greats and others I mentioned. Those legends could fight and figure out any style. A runner like Floyd would be put in places he wouldn’t like. Sorry my friend, those guys would have beaten him hands down. All those guys I mentioned threw combinations effortlessly. Have you ever seen Mayweather throw more than a 2 punch combination? Do you think those legends would allow him to counter? No, No, No. Those guys were all around great fighters.

Posted May 12, 2013 12:05 am 


hecdog

Tark my friend, yes I did pick Guerrero to beat Mayweather and I was wrong. I thought Floyd’s inactivity and declining skills along with Guerrero’s emotional charge with all he had been through with his wife would lead to the upset. As far as Cotto, he’s been past his prime for awhile now. He is a great fighter, but he’s been active and wasn’t nearly the great fighter he was when he fought Floyd, yet when they went at it toe to toe, Mayweather was hit often, and did not like it. I don’t think he will ever fight like that again, and that’s the difference. He doesn’t like it when the going gets tough. And yes I lost my money, but that’s boxing. Sometimes we go with our gut feelings, and sometimes we analyze things wrong. I certainly thought Floyd would not move away or run away so often, He also held quite a bit. This is boxing, the fight game. I wouldn’t be surprised to see future fighters hit, sprint 10 feet away and do the same thing all night. I’m very qualified to dissect boxing styles. I enjoy it, but I do have some preferences. Sugar Ray Leonard and Sugar ray Robinson are my favorites. They could do it all, and they would IMO destroyed Floyd Mayweather.

Posted May 11, 2013 11:55 pm 


murderman

If mike woulda trained instead of screwing half of japan then he woulda killed douglas like holyfield did! Douglas hadnt won a fight since! Lol

Posted May 11, 2013 11:42 pm 


murderman

@done deal-school these cats partner!

Posted May 11, 2013 11:38 pm 


hookoffthejab

no TARK BUster was just pissed at his EX and going thru a divorce at the same time unluckily for Mike, not to mention that was the start of the demise of Mike and his use of the PEEK A BOO style of boxing a prime Mike would have blasted Buster in 3 as Holyfield did….

Posted May 11, 2013 11:38 pm 


Done deal

Murderman was PAC Man it’s funny how PBF is ridiculed for asking Hatton and Marquez to come up in weight or for possibly asking Canelo to drop down in weight. I wonder was PAC ridiculed for asking ODH to fight at 147 for the first time in over 5 years? Or asking Cotto to fight at 144? PBF beat both fighters in there weight class of 154.

Posted May 11, 2013 11:36 pm 


Zoo

Canelo hasn’t done enough to dictate anything to floyd. If he want to fight him then come to his turf at 147. Floyd ain’t calling him out it’s the ther way atound. Canelo has everything to gain floyd has everything to lose

Posted May 11, 2013 11:35 pm 


Zoo

44-0 hater

Posted May 11, 2013 11:33 pm 


Done deal

Y’all PBF haters are sooo ignorant. 44-0 with 26 knock outs, 8 titles in 5 weight classes, longest reigning champ in boxing history, most accurate puncher in boxing history, gets hit less than any fighter in boxing history, has beat Hall of famers such as ODH, Cotto, Mosely, Marquez, Gatti, and Corrales. He schooled a 44-0 Ricky Hatton and 31-1 6 time world champ Gurrero, Yet you fools still find ecauses as to why he is not great. Stupidest comment I’ve seen on ESB “Floyd is not ready for Canelo” huh? Who the heck has Floyd not been ready for? It’s insulting to even say a 22 year old 1 time champ is better than PBF. Y’all sound like fools.

Posted May 11, 2013 11:30 pm 


TARK

Buster Douglas exposed Mike Tyson… Mike was good, but a big, tall, strong, fast, good boxer with a terrific jab, hook, and straight right, is going to box Mike silly because of the speed, skill, height, size, and strength differential.. Buster went 232 in shape and stood 6’4″.. Mike was too fast for those huge lumbering apes like Ruddock, Smith, and Bruno, who couldn’t get out of their own way.. But sooner or later a guy that big, strong, fast, and skilled is going to show up in the modern athletic world … This isn’t Rocky Marciano’s Heavyweight Division anymore.

Posted May 11, 2013 11:27 pm 


PILLOWFIST

I’m tired of people coming on here talking about how May “runs”! Nosense! Is May not fighting other pro fighters? Is it Mayweathers responsibility to give these guys a chance to knock him out? If these guys learned how to counter effectively and cut off the ring then maybe they would stand a chance, plain and simple. Bottom line, they didn’nt put in the time and work to learn their craft, so they come up short. Mayweather put in the work now he’s reeping the rewards. Remember, the only place you’ll fid success before work, is in the dictionary.

Posted May 11, 2013 11:26 pm 


murderman

Floyd will sucker canelo to meltdown to 147 the beat him to death like ward did dawson. Watch what i say. Canelo is so thirsty for this fight he will agree to floyds terms without thinking. If he is smart he will convince floyd to come back up to 154. That why he can rehydrate n have a huge advantage. But at 147 no way he beats floyd

Posted May 11, 2013 11:23 pm 


hecdog

Thanks Joe Kidd. Largo, don’t get mad my friend. Truth is truth.

Posted May 11, 2013 11:23 pm 


hookoffthejab

Mike Tyson in his prime had one of the best methods of hit and not get hit. It was called peek a boo which suited his stature and luckily for him……

Posted May 11, 2013 10:42 pm 


largo

Why anybody even bother with this loser…

Posted May 11, 2013 10:41 pm 


largo

Hecdog is a moron…a certified one.

Posted May 11, 2013 10:40 pm 


JoeKidd

Insightful analysis by hecdog down there. There are actually some real boxing fans about the place! Leonard could have probably gone undefeated if he stuck with that stick and run Floyd style. Who could catch Leonard on the run? But the guy wanted to fight! Boxing is still FIGHTING! I wouldn’t even give that last fight to Alvarado because he did run too much. Hate the runners! Bloody sissies! Ali ran but kept hitting while running! These guys taunt and paw and figure they are doing something!

Posted May 11, 2013 10:10 pm 


TARK

Hecdog…, “Floyd actually tried to stay with an old Cotto” ??? Floyd was 35…Cotto was 31… Who was the old man??? A decisive UD against a great 3-Division World Champion isn’t so bad anyway. I guess that’s hanging in there with the old man. You were so sure Guerrero was going to beat Floyd that you threw some of your hard earned money away betting on Guerrero. You mapped out the fight and boldly predicted Guerrero was going to stop Floyd … Nice try … Hecdog, all this does not qualify you as an expert on Floyd or his style of fighting. Cotto is a boxer with a great jab so you pressure him and put loads of gloves in his face. Guerrero is a brawler and grappler. You box him, time him, jab him, crack him with straight rights and 1-2’s, feint jabs and rip him with hooks, pot shot him. The greatest fighters change up their style to meet the methodology of their opponent.. They also draw larger PPV number during their careers than anybody else.. However, there are always those brawling fans who don’t appreciate their work, try to disparage everything they do, invent reasons to find fault with them, pretend to expertly analyze their style, and get everything ass backwards as usual. Why would anyone bet on Guerrero to beat Floyd? If you bet on Canelo to beat Floyd, FINE… Then you’re not way out there floating with the quasars.

Posted May 11, 2013 10:03 pm 


Patrick2

@ HecDog Your hatred and bias of Floyd is obvious. And you use the fog of history to distort the records of fighters in the past. I’ve seen all those fighters you named fight – I’ve been a boxing fans since the 70s — and I’ll tell you Floyd would be more than a match for any of them. Not saying he’d beat them all, but if there were a tournament he’d certainly be in the quarter finals, if not the finals. Yes, Floyd is that good — I’ve never seen such a well-rounded, well-schooled fighter, ever.

Best quote: “The subtle shifts in pace, the masterful use of angles, the on-the-spot adaptability-this is what boxing at its highest level is all about. To true boxing fans, a Mayweather master class is every bit as entertaining as a two-fisted brawl. Genius is only boring to the poorly-informed and the legitimately dim-witted.”

Posted May 11, 2013 9:59 pm 


B Red

Most of thr Floyd Haters are straight redneck mofos, ya dig. Im callin the rednecks out , holla back, ya dig. Btw if you holla dont post under a fake name mofos

Posted May 11, 2013 9:54 pm 


B Red

Canelo will get his ass whooped, ya dig

Posted May 11, 2013 9:49 pm 


The Prince

Patrick2 – Correct. Just look at the comments some of the posters have made. They’re already putting the “Too Green” excuse out there, in case the fight happens and Floyd wins.

Posted May 11, 2013 8:30 pm 


Hecdog

Q calm down my friend. There are no stand out rounds in Floyd’s career because he has none. He doesn’t stay in their long enough to test his armor, heart, courage or durability. He plays the safe game that we all know and see. He hits, holds, and moves faster than any fighter I have ever seen. And, I need to give you some insight as far as fighters go. Counter punchers are not flat footed. You see, punchers are flat footed so that they have balance and proper weight distribution when they throw and land the punch,. Counter punchers rely on their reflexes, speed and are always on their toes. Fighters that fight on their toes generate speed, not power and visa versa. I will give my my break down one day or what makes a boxer, puncher, counter puncher and both offense and defense. Knowledge and experience go a long way. Floyd as i have mentioned before does not use quality form when he throws punches. He relies on his speed, timing and reflexes. he is the best at hitting, holding and moving away like a torpedo. He doesn’t hold his ground and take chances. We all know that. You cannot even make the slightest comparison in his technique with the technique of true great fighter like Duran’s feints and body punching, Hearns and Holmes left jabs, Chavez’s hook to the body, Meldrick taylor and Ray Leonard’s combination punching, Wilfredo Benitez and Pernell Whitaker defense and countering. These guys mastered the technique, and it left people in awe watching these guys technique and skill combined with the courage and heart of a lion. Floyd Mayweather isn’t in the same league as these guys. Had they fought Floyd, Hearns, Benitez, Whitaker, Duran and Leonard would have outsmarted him and made him fight. These guys weren’t the Gatti’s, Hatton’s, Baldomir’s that didn’t have the skills, wits, techniques to find a way to break a guy down and make a way for them to win. All these guys would have laughed at Floyd if he tried his childish head games that he does do guys that are scared. Duran would have slapped him right there and then. Leonard would have destroyed Floyd. Sorry, I’ve watched Floyd fight many times, but he’s an athlete that happens to be a good boxer. Too bad Floyd ran from Manny Pacquiao. Manny would have feinted him out of the arena. Marquez said in a recent interview that Floyd was a great defensive fighter, but that Manny hit harder and was faster. He did pick Floyd because he said Floyd would move away and not fight. Floyd a good athlete, but not a real fighter, and will go down as such. Records mean nothing if you don’t take chances, and only stay in your safety first comfort zone. Floyd had a small taste when he actually tried to stay with an old Cotto fighting inside, and he received a bloody nose, bumps and bruises, and he then decided to never risk that style of fighting again hence the Guerrero fight. A real fighter or boxer has the courage and confidence to fight and beat their opponents regardless of what style it is. The heart plays a major role in there. Floyd can’t handle the heat, but I give him credit for his record, and making good money.

Posted May 11, 2013 8:24 pm 


gray

if bradley vs marquez is done than if floyd wants to keep earning the $32 million guarntees he will have to fight canelo unless canelo over leverages himself. otherwise everyone apart from alexander is booked up for september!! and floyd may have stole one from the film the great white hope to sell aganist guerrero but he cant do it twice and expect 1.2 million ppv sales

Posted May 11, 2013 8:16 pm 


Fighting Words

Oh we could use Mike Tyson in boxing now. He got $30 million per fight, but the fight fans got their money worth no matter who he was fighting, the fans had expectations and he did not disappoint. But with Mayweather fights, the song by Dire Straits said it best “Money is for nothing and chicks are free” ,

Posted May 11, 2013 8:09 pm 


Patrick2

Yes, Canelo is Floyd’s best opponent. Until Floyd beats Canelo then Floyd’s critics will say Canelo was a “hype-job”, “still green”, “too young”, “unproven”, blah, blah, blah… it’ll never end. Me… if this fight isn’t made, there are still plenty of excellent match-ups I’d like to see Floyd take: the winner of Bradley v. Marquez, Petterson, Garcia, Matthysse, and of course if Pac isn’t damaged and wins his next bout, Pac.

Posted May 11, 2013 8:04 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Mayweather isn’t ready for canelo. Canelo would be mayweathers best opponent if mayweather actually fought him

Posted May 11, 2013 7:49 pm 


gray

the only 3 viable opponents who are not already scheduled to fight who could justify a $32 million minimum purse for floyd with only 4 months marketing is canelo, bradley & Khan. Khan has ramondam ( muslim festival in aug) so cant fight. canelo is a fight that would be bigger in may 14 on cinco mayo and is the biggest fight out there which leaves bradley. everyone else paulie,garcia, maidana, peterson, broner with the exception of alexander who could just about squeeze it in if he beats purdy but i dont see how alexander vs anyone would hit 1.2 million ppv’s sales. in fact if antiques roadshow clashed with mayweather vs alexander i would probably watch the roadshow. so its either bradley or canelo

Posted May 11, 2013 7:38 pm 


Maracho

Dont buy into the hype. Canelo isnt ready for Mayweather

Posted May 11, 2013 7:25 pm 


Dino

Canelo is a 160 pounder easy, Floyd should make him agree to weigh-in the morning of the fight. Also, $70 bucks is a bit much, I know alot of people that are loyal PPV buyers that did not get this last fight, go back to $49.99 and get more buys, come on gents the greed is getting a bit out of hand. Floyd wins this one on points, too slick, too smart for Canelo.

Posted May 11, 2013 7:24 pm 


The Prince

You guys still don’t get it. Floyd doesn’t move to nobody else drums but his own. He makes his own choices and his own decisions. If Floyd doesn’t choose Canelo, then so be it. Personally, I think Canelo’s next fight will be with Miguel Cotto.

Posted May 11, 2013 7:07 pm 


KOrnerman

Canelos timing could be the key to unlock Moneys riddle, I think Money will save Canelo for his last fight so if he loses who cares he will be set for few years.

Posted May 11, 2013 6:54 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Any fight with the unifed 154 pound champ canelo should be a strait up 154 pound championship fight with no special exceptions to suit mayweather

Posted May 11, 2013 6:52 pm 


KOrnerman

fight Canelo at 154, hows that not fair?

Posted May 11, 2013 6:51 pm 


Grant Watson

Mayweather to box devon alexander after he beats lee purdy next weekend. Any fight with alvarez should be made at 150 pounds to make it fair.

Posted May 11, 2013 6:35 pm 


Tomato Can

The so loved sweet science has left many of fighters without their marbles for chump change. More power to the fighters that are able to make big bank, and even more power to thoser who can get out of the sport thinking clearly…

Posted May 11, 2013 6:29 pm 


boxingfan

There are 2 very sad things here. Thet money is a major factor in who is the next challenger, and that any fighter can get $32mil for one fight. What ever happened to the love of the sweet science?

Posted May 11, 2013 6:19 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Canelo ad trout fught a 154 pound champioship “fair n square”. Canelo is the unified champ. Mayweathers holdin a stgrap at 154. Which means he’s not only fighting at 154 he is holding a strap. He must face canelo at 154 with no special mayweather exceptions or he needs to throw his strap in trash like bowe and duck canelo. I don’t need to hear about excuses from the rabid maywather nut gargler horde. If mayweather is unfit he can forcibly retreat from 154. And be sandwhiched by broner on the 147 front. There is nowhere for mayweather to “run” and hide. Lol. Retirement is immenent. Mayweather can’t take risk and fight good fighters now can he? He needs the gueereros ortiz’s and kahns of the world. He needs the washed up oscars, moselys, cottos, and gattis to thrive. Lol

Posted May 11, 2013 6:15 pm 


Tomato Can

If you can’t beat him fair and square, throw him in with a 15-20 pound handy cap. If anyone says anything about it just tell him he weighed in 2 pounds heavy for the Marquez fight… A bigger fighter may get the best if Mayweather at some point, but that won’t make him a better fighter. Which is the reason Mayweather should stay at 147. But Canelo would be a big fight at 154.

Posted May 11, 2013 5:28 pm 


malachi

Done Deal` it’s a done deal ,you know what your talking about my man!!…yezzzir!

Posted May 11, 2013 5:25 pm 


Done Deal

When it comes to skills regardless of if Floyd’s are diminishing or not he is much much better than 99% of fighters right now. It would take the best opponent on their best night to beat PBF at 85%. The guys boxing IQ is just on another planet> Same for Andre Ward.

Posted May 11, 2013 5:01 pm 


Done Deal

Joe Canelo and Floyd are NOT the same size. Canelo walked in the ring at 172 vs. Trout. PBF does even weigh 160 when he is not training. He has never weighed in more than 151 for any fight in his career. Even other Boxers, Analysts, and writers say he would give up 15-20lbs fighting Canelo. Yall make up stats.

Posted May 11, 2013 4:57 pm 


Done Deal

BEARS and you do huh? Floyd refuses to weigh in fight night? How do you know? are you there? has this been in the media? have other fighters complained about this? Has Floyd had any trouble EVER making the Welter Weight limit of 147 or Jr. Middle limit of 154? If he is so heavy on fight night how come he never weighs more than 151 even when he fight at Jr Middle? Where are your facts?

Posted May 11, 2013 4:54 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Carlos-if floyd back pedaled and tried to eek out a decision than that “manner” of win would not be impressive but regardless you would have to be impressed with whoever won. Unless it was a controversial decision with which you do not agree

Posted May 11, 2013 4:29 pm 


pugfan

Hasim

Posted May 11, 2013 4:25 pm 


pugfan

Lennex Lewis had no trouble rebounding from a similar k.o. at the hands of Hasin Rockman

Posted May 11, 2013 4:24 pm 


pugfan

you never know. Pac may be gun shy , or not quite the same fighter?

Posted May 11, 2013 4:18 pm 


pugfan

te tumbo , yes I would still like to see May vs. Pac. However since Pac already has a mega fight lined up with Rios I would like to wait until I see what Pac looks like in his comeback bout.

Posted May 11, 2013 4:17 pm 


Joe

Floyd needs to man up and fight a top fighter that is his own size, like Canelo.

Posted May 11, 2013 3:48 pm 


Limey jay

You gotta either really hate floyd, or know bugger all about the fight game to discredit floyd.
Some people would match him with the klits, and then slag him off when he lost….it’s nonsense.
Wether you like him or not, you got to keep it real.
I,ve heard every bit of criticism hurled at him, and none of it sticks.
Maybe there are one or two fighters he ain’t met yet, so what he can’t fight every week.
And it ain’t as if the guys he has fought have had no skills, people talk about weights and sizes , but tell me who has has any success in finding his chin regularly?
No-one that’s the bottom line, if he takes a flush shot, he grabs hold , pulls you in close , ties you up…he out wrestled Ricky hatton for crying out loud.
I don’t much like floyds persona from what I have seen , but I don’t know him and the bloke might well be sound as a pound, but none of that matters cos he is a great fighter, has the best defence I can ever remember seeing, as he don’t get hit, and has every punch in the book and a few more aswell….I don’t see a weakness in him, he is quick, cunning, spiteful has mad skills,a decent chin , blistering speed and knows how to get in an opponents head playing his tricks.
Yet some people talk about him as if he has fought nothing but stiffs, and been lucky to scrape a win against them.
He has had 44 fights and have yet to see him get into any serious trouble they he couldn,t get out of with his skills and instincts.
Haters will hate and discredit him cos that’s what they do.
It ain’t right but it’s how things are….but you gotta keep it real, or it don’t mean nothing it’s just nonsense.
There are plenty of other fighters I prefer to watch than floyd, but there ain’t no one out there who comes anywhere near him for all round greatness.
I,ll pop on my tin hat know cos I know plenty will ridicule my opinion, and I can’t be bothered to dissect every second of his career and who he should have fought etc
It’s boring and futile.

Posted May 11, 2013 3:28 pm 


Q (Floyd has to physically sabotage himself to make things more fair)

te tumbo: You’re correct about many things, but Floyd’s not in his physical prime at all. As much as he dominated Guerrero, his legs are a bit less …peaked, his reflexes and movements as well. He used to move purely like a mongoose. He had some issues setting his feet against Guerrero off movements… and he didn’t always pull the trigger in those aw inspiring on the dime ways that he used to in his prime. The only thing that you’re seeing is that, he was NEVER just talent, put there is pure skill and craft in there… but he’s not peaking nor in his prime, I won’t agree with you on that. I don’t believe it. But you’re right, he does not belong at 154 physically at all…. but he clearly beat ODH IMO, and Cotto gave trouble, but he won about 3 rounds max and was almost stopped in the 12th.

Posted May 11, 2013 3:17 pm 


te tumbo

Floyd’s mental game has been the critical booster to his overall fighting ability. he won’t be rattled and is as stubborn a compulsive winner as any athlete in any sport.

Posted May 11, 2013 3:08 pm 


te tumbo

Q, Floyd is Prime and still peaking. his ring-smarts is becoming ring-craft. his talent, experience. he continues to demonstrate subtle improvement with each win v. a variety of styles and a broad range of experience. i’ve always considered Floyd to be #1 P4P but he’s now approaching a level of complete mastery. IMO, 147lbs is already the standing compromise that Mayweather is honoring to make things more fair for these guys. he doesn’t look his best at 154lbs. i didn’t think either fighter deserved to “win” between DLH and Floyd and Cotto turned out to be more of a grind than necessary.

Posted May 11, 2013 3:05 pm 


Q (Floyd has to physically sabotage himself to make things more fair)

I’d actually like FMJ to fight Canelo if that’s what he wants. I have faith that Floyd wins that fight, even as a past prime blown up WW.

Posted May 11, 2013 2:53 pm 


Q

Fighting Words: Let’s stop exaggerating now, Canelo isn’t 21… he’ll be 23 in two months. He’s young, but come on, you’re basically two full years off.

Posted May 11, 2013 2:51 pm 


Q

Te tumbo: Floyd’s not in his prime, but you’re absolutely right. The man has to physically sabotage himself to make things more fair for these guys.

Posted May 11, 2013 2:48 pm 


Q

Boxer: I think it’s an insult to many 140 pounders to say they have no chance by Canelo does, because I do NOT see Canelo as P4P dominant over those terrific fighters down there… I don’t consider him P4P dominant over Bradley/Marquez at 147 either…. and I think it’s also disrespectful to Manny (who P4P was a mega match for FMJ) to place Canelo’s name with him. P4P Canelo will never reach a MP status, and P4P, Manny would have crushed him, and P4P I’d say that a Matthysse, Peterson are better fighters than Canelo. Canelo’s chances lie in his size, sure he’s good, but it’s his size that counts. There are various 154 pounders with better chances than the 140-147 pounders, because being damn good isn’t good enough. They need to DISPLACE FLOYD, actually having him fight as what in boxing we call “blown up” …against strong fighters weighing in at 170+…. yes, that’s his best shot at losing, but then again… does he really need to put in that extra effort to lose? EVERY dominant fighter throughout the history of boxing, could have pushed their weight more, to fight someone more threatening (due to weight). I think Canelo can lose at 154, BUT… he just like all other fighters, can move to 160, to make a a bit more likely…. fight GGG.. then again, GGG is scary, and bigger. He’s a beast beast.

Posted May 11, 2013 2:46 pm 


Fighting Words

Mayweather fighting Canelo can be very interest figth from a business sense to keep Showtime happy and earn that $250 million, but fight fans must not forget, Canelo is promoted by Golden Boy so there is not balance of powers with different 2 different promoters involved. Mayweather would not have any problems with Canelo if the ring is hugh and assure it would be. But on the other hand, if Canelo wiin he would be hugh across the country especially in Latin American which are big boxing fans. He is only 21, and there is a lot of millions to be made with him because of his age, a lot more millions then the share of the $250 million Mayweather is getting, plus Golden Boy would be getting the lion share, which is not the case with Mayweather. Mayweather is at then end of his career with these 6 fights, so I look for Golden Boy to make a good business move and put Mayweather in with Canelo, and if Canelo wins the money belt will be pass on to Canelo.

Posted May 11, 2013 2:41 pm 


te tumbo

while Mayweather remains prime, every potential matchup below 154lbs qualifies as little more than housekeeping. Broner is a potential exception but not even he is ready. ultimately, 154lbs may be the only marketable option that “makes sense” to “Money”. at which point, there’ll be an incremental decline in Floyd’s dominance but he will still have enough to defeat if not dominate the roster of 154lb competition.

Posted May 11, 2013 2:40 pm 


Boxer

Oh and tomato can Canelo could have stopped Mosley if he wanted to do so if you watch the fight Canelo was just showing respect to a legend past his prime!

Posted May 11, 2013 2:38 pm 


Boxer

Floyd needs to fight Canelo because if he doesn’t in the minds of the people their going to say he didn’t fight pacman or Canelo and could have fought both, but c’mon man I don’t want to see Floyd fight Alexander or Garcia,Peterson, khan , we all know those guys have NO chance none against Floyd, the only fighter that does is Canelo and Floyd knows that! I’m not saying he can beat Floyd but he is a HUGE threat!

Posted May 11, 2013 2:34 pm 


terror tim

He also have very few opponents to pick from. Pick a good one for once.

Posted May 11, 2013 2:20 pm 


Q

Patrick2: Actually, Robert Guerrero was the #2 ranked WW under FMJ I believe at the time of the bout, and was actually rated in the P4P list.

Posted May 11, 2013 2:20 pm 


Happyboy

Rich – whatever tickles your fancy. Knock yourself out.

Posted May 11, 2013 2:18 pm 


Q

pugfan: “Floyd would have been smart enough not to go toe to toe with Duran in Montreal. if Floyd had fought Duran in would have gone more like Leonard Duran number 2 without a rematch.” – exactly.

Posted May 11, 2013 2:16 pm 


Q

Oh, and Hector.. jajajaj… you just assumed that people got “excited” from your mention of Canelo Vs. Paquiao, Ortiz, Chavez Jr, Martinez? Canelo needs to fight men his size…. Canelo Vs. Manny doesn’t excite me in the least, the man just got stopped by a small WW, why are you talking about him fighting a man who in his early 20’s weighs in above 171 on fight night? Ortiz also just lost to a man in his division 147, although I think Ortiz could really make 154 and pack on some mass, canelo is just naturally bigger than him still. Canelo Vs. Martinez, yes… but I’m not sure either of those two guys want that fight… what I want is Canelo Vs. GGG. And I think GGG stops him for sure. Heck, I want to see Canelo fight his mandatory Lara…. better not gas in 5 rounds again, or he’ll get stopped this time.

Posted May 11, 2013 2:13 pm 


Q

hecdog: Jajajajajaja. Who’s more well rounded than FMJ in the sport today again? There has rarely ever been such a well rounded fighter ever in moving history period. He has shown that he can out box boxers, stay inside and counter flat footed, he’s apparently the most underrated pressure fighter in the history of boxing, he can jab, throw great body shots, he doesn’t telegraph anything at all, he can throw left and right uppercut lead counters and land them on world champions…. his hit to not hit ratio is better than any non heavyweight charted in the history of boxing (maybe out of any fighter ever including HW)…. he’s quick, he has respectable pop… not as well rounded as some great fighters today? What on earth am I reading….. I’ll inform you of something, generally in boxing, great counter punchers (like JMM) and great infighter/counter punchers (James Toney) are very flat footed, so that can plant and catch you. They can often have trouble with fleet footed boxers (they are different types of fighters generally) ….Floyd is an epic hybrid and it’s not normal. Rounds that stand out for FMJ? His entire fights stand out, he’s just methodically picking guys apart round after round and breaking them down mentally.. he’s too great for “stand out rounds” because he’s constantly putting the scalpel to these guys round by round, it’s like a legendary artist or the best surgeon in the business. If you can’t appreciate and gauck at the intricacies, and the quiet moments of a fight… of pure boxing brilliance, round to round… then yes… you probably won’t like FMJ (although he’s the most watched boxer in PPV history). It’s a disrespect to FMJ to talk about stand out rounds, but hey…. his 8th round against Guerrero was a thing a shear beauty and brutality. Rounds against Gatti, with three or more back to back right straight right hand leads… man… I can’t name rounds with FMJ, it’s just… things he does at any point, that are extremely rare. For me, someone who has dabbled in the sport and has loved the sport… it’s extremely exciting watching how these guys are broken, and Floyd brilliant offensive mastery and defensive displays of ATG brilliance. Don’t talk to me about a stand out round, this man is finished fights landing 60%+ of his shots and keeping guys to 19% …it’s disrespectful to talk about “stand out round” this guy is a surgeon. Not well rounded, jajajaja. You don’t know a damn thing about boxing. Point taken.

Posted May 11, 2013 2:05 pm 


te tumbo

“te tumbo, nobody is talking about Paquiao” PUGFAN, Hidalgo was. besides, isn’t Pacquiao* potentially a “next opponent” for Mayweather? i question why but it’s obviously something that some would still like to see but, seriously? what’s the appeal for anyone other than for fight-fans like me with “hatred” for Pacquiao*? it can’t be honest competition because Floyd will, would, and always would have delivered a cruel and merciless beatdown of Pacquiao*. a KO would be merciful.

Posted May 11, 2013 1:56 pm 


Rich

NAPPYBOY…All the adoration you once applied to Khan as now come to nought…..The times you have stood up for him on here now seems bitter irony..I actually think Amir will give him a good fight…

Posted May 11, 2013 1:44 pm 


Tomato Can

I never stated what level fighter I think Thurman is, but I’ve been around long enough to exactly how fans will react once he gets a couple more wins under his belt. Wait and see…

Posted May 11, 2013 1:43 pm 


Happyboy

When all is said and done I’d ruther watch Floyd vs Canelo or Garcia than that con Khan.

Posted May 11, 2013 1:29 pm 


Public Enemy

Done Deal – Canelo is a 172+lb fighter come fight night. How is he near Floyds Weight level???

Posted May 11, 2013 1:24 pm 


Edgar Guevara

For the amount of money, Mayweather contract is 250m. Not Garcia, Khan, Mathysse, Peterson can generate interest. Mayweather 250m has to be Superfights that only one right now can generate financial interest and attraction is Canelo Alvarez. Anything else he is running like he did Pacquiao. I respect Mayweather, I like he style. He needs to give his fans the last good young fight. Mayweather skills needs to be sharp, this fight will probably be better in November. They both fought recently, this is a magnitud fight.

Posted May 11, 2013 1:13 pm 


Done Deal

Keith Thurman is a B level, if not B- fighter. He has not beat ANYONE of top level skill nor has he looked impressive in his wins. He does have power and thats about it.

Posted May 11, 2013 1:04 pm 


Done Deal

Canelo is the only fighter near Floyd’s weight that stands a chance. That is including Pac man.

Posted May 11, 2013 1:01 pm 


Mo-Box

Would be smart to fight Canelo right now – he’s not matured, nowhere near his peak yet, lots of flaws and unrefined skills but already has a huge fanbase – he’s a superstar in Mexico.

Thus a low risk high reward type of fight for Mayweather, the best fight right now in fact (next to Pac). He’s smart and I reckon he’s already in talks with Canelo. I just hope the beating from May doesn’t ruin young boy Canelo’s career. :)

Posted May 11, 2013 12:56 pm 


Patrick2

Keith Thurman is a very good fighter, but I think still has a few rough edges to work on. I say give him another year or two to peak — to challenge the very top fighters.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:51 pm 


Tomato Can

Happy boy just wait and see, Keith Thurman will be the next beat Mayweather hope, within 24-30 months.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:50 pm 


Patrick2

“Fans” are always clamoring for Floyd to stop cherry picking and face “real competition” yet he does (he just beat the #5 ranked w/w) and still they complain. Now there’s talk of him facing Canelo and already his critics are downplaying Canelo’s threat/abilities. Amazing! Sorry, Floyd, it doesn’t matter who you fight/beat, they won’t be happy until you lose — sadly that’s all they really want to see.

Best quote: “The subtle shifts in pace, the masterful use of angles, the on-the-spot adaptability-this is what boxing at its highest level is all about. To true boxing fans, a Mayweather master class is every bit as entertaining as a two-fisted brawl. Genius is only boring to the poorly-informed and the legitimately dim-witted.”

Posted May 11, 2013 12:48 pm 


Happyboy

Who is Keith Thurman? Floyd should fight 1. Canelo 2. Pac 3. Bradley 4. Alexander 5. Broner. The calibre of these boxers is testimonial to the level at which Mayweather operates when we as fans have such high expectation from a great whose fighting at an age where most boxers, sportsman and other greats were showing clear signs of declining skills or retired. Best of luck to Floyd.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:44 pm 


Hidalgo

“HIDALGO, seriously, what is the appeal of watching Mayweather cruelly punish, humiliate, and dominate Pacquiao*?” For me te tumbo, I just know it would be a big fight. A helluva lot bigger than Mayweather/Guerrero. I don’t think Pac has a chance against Mayweather but it would still be a worthwhile fight to watch. I mean, do think Floyd could ever KO like Marquez did? I doubt it. But it would be a great fight nonetheless.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:40 pm 


Tomato Can

Pain Canelo couldn’t tko trout or Mosely, and he won’t even beat Mayweather.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:33 pm 


Tomato Can

When are fans going to start screaming for Mayweather to fight Keith Thurman, one of the only WW’s that has power in both hands and boxing skill? I say they will start asking for that fight within the next 30 months, but I doubt it will happen.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:31 pm 


Tomato Can

Leonard was so well rounded that he was done as soon as he was out of his Prime. He was a great fighter and so is today’s current best FM jr.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:27 pm 


pugfan

Floyd would have been smart enough not to go toe to toe with Duran in Montreal. if Floyd had fought Duran in would have gone more like Leonard Duran number 2 without a rematch.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:22 pm 


Done Deal

PBF’s next 4 fights in no particular order 1) Canelo 2.) Pacquio 3.) Khan (Not really worthy but would make $$$$) 4.) Danny Garcia or Timothy Bradley.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:20 pm 


Pain

Canelo is good, and punches hard. If he can keep the pressure on Floyd like Cotto or DLH, then fvck yes, he beats Mayweather. Can even TKO him.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:18 pm 


Done Deal

If PBF fights Canelo next and beats him, and has 3 more fights that will not be very interesting. I would fight him at 154 but have a clause saying he can not rehydrate above 160lb. I think that is fair. Coming in at 170 or 172 unacceptable as a Jr. middle weight, but Canelo is NOT the only fighter that does it.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:18 pm 


Done Deal

Zurdo40 Floyd weighed 146 and Marquez 142, a difference of 4 pounds. Stop making up statistics. Even when fighting at middle weight Floyd only weighed 151.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:15 pm 


Done Deal

Traveller Floyd is 44-0. What is part time about that? And what does it say about his opponents if they cant beat a part time fighter?

Posted May 11, 2013 12:12 pm 


hecdog

Ray Leonard, his fights are the best exhibition of what a well rounded fighter can do I meant

Posted May 11, 2013 12:08 pm 


hecdog

Canelo still doesn’t have the experience to beat a fighter that is going to move all day. The catch me if you can, hit and run style will give us one of the most boring fights in history. We all know exactly what we’re going to get with Floyd. He doesn’t take chancs looking to take a guy out and jump on him. His fights are the best exhibition of what a well rounded boxer can do. Box, counter, move, fight inside. He could do it all. Floyd is simply not as well rounded or courageous as some current and many past great fighters. Yes we can say it’s his style, but it proves nothing. Even the great Ali who is the most gifted boxer for a heavyweight ever fought guys and beat them. Canelo will need to fight Floyd i a 10×10 ft ring and use a motorcycle if he wants to catch Floyd. Floyd has been fighting for 17 years, and I can’t recall one round that stands out, not one. I can recall plenty of other great and not so great fighters rounds, but not Floyds. Why? because he doesn’t take chances like only great fighter do. Floyd is looking for big ratings and money in fighting Canelo, but if they do fight, you’ll see the most boring fight in history. Canelo needs to fight, Pacquiao, Martinez, Chavez, Ortiz. Notice how mentioning those fights get you excited for a real fight. That’s what fans want.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:05 pm 


Reign Man

If I was Mayweather, I would make Canelo come down to 147 or put a contract stipulation in place to hold Canelo steady at 154 on the day of the fight

Posted May 11, 2013 12:05 pm 


hated enemy

canelo has a punchers chance

Posted May 11, 2013 11:38 am 


pugfan

te tumbo, nobody is talking about Paquiao. you seem to be the only one that brings Paquiao into every conversation? we know of your hatred for Paquiao. this is about Floyd and Canelo. give us some of your insight on that bout if it were to take place? Paquiao will have his hands full with Rios.

Posted May 11, 2013 11:27 am 


JoeKidd

Somebody below talking about Floyd cruelly PUNISHING somebody? Please. Admire his technical skills but let’s get real please!

Posted May 11, 2013 11:12 am 


JoeKidd

Canelo stands no chance with that tap and run game. If he had problems catching Trout, how’s he going to catch a real sprinter??? Another snoozefest in store! Floyd will decision ANYBODY with that game.

Posted May 11, 2013 11:10 am 


Ted

Floyd should fight Canelo sooner rather then later.To me he is the only threat to him because of his youth and decent power.Don’t get me wrong I think Floyd will school him but it would be better for him to do it at 36 rather then 37 or 38.After a Canelo fight there will be no real threat left to him and he would retire with that O.

Posted May 11, 2013 11:02 am 


te tumbo

HIDALGO, seriously, what is the appeal of watching Mayweather cruelly punish, humiliate, and dominate Pacquiao*? for the rest of you, that is? otherwise, i’ve always been confident of that fight-scenario and would Love to see it but so is Team Punkuiao*, which is why we never will. particularly after Pacquiao’s ANNIHILATION at the fists of Marquez. you can’t possibly still be anticipating a competitive bout between these two, do you? besides, isn’t Pacquiao* nothing more than a bulked-up feather himself?

Posted May 11, 2013 11:02 am 


Hidalgo

Please ignore “second time” regarding Pac and Bradley, the second time would be with marquez.

Posted May 11, 2013 10:53 am 


Hidalgo

Let me correct myself, Floyd didn’t say he was “more than happy” to fight guys who traditionally fight at lower weights. I did. An the author of this article insinuated he would pick one of them. But Floyd does have a history of doing it or fighting “green” welterweights”: Hatton, Marquez, Ortiz, Guerrero.

Posted May 11, 2013 10:52 am 


Hidalgo

Khan, Peterson, Matthysse, and Garcia are all jr. welterweights. They are not welterweights, they do not fight at welterweight. They don’t have expereience as welterweights. So, Floyd doesn’t do catchweights but he’s more than happy to fight guys who tradtitionally fight in a lighter weight division: Hatton, Marquez, Guerrero, Khan, Peterson, Matthysse, Garcia. Whoopeedoo.

Meanwhile, because he’s so greedy and so self-enamored, he won’t do his best to make a deal with Arum so he can fight Bradley or Pacquiao, for the second time. Mayweather definitely won’t fight Provodnikov because he put such a whoopin’ on Bradley. He won’t fight Malignaggi for some unknown reason. He’ll fight interim “champ” Guerrero because he can sell that ticket but he won’t fight Chaves who is an undefeated interim “champ,” and who also has been one much longer than Guerrero. Of course, Devon Alexander is out there too. Rematch with Ortiz? He’s rated as one of the top 10 welterweights. Then there’s the top welterweight contender Thurman, and what about Abregu?

But even if he does fight Canelo, Canelo deserves at least most of the purse he thinks he does because he’s a giant draw. A Canelo/Mayweather fight would be a blockbuster. Canelo deserves a much bigger cut than Guerrero got because Canelo is already a superstar in his own right.

Oh, and BTW, if anyone things GBP, Mayweather Promotions, and/or Top Rank can’t market any of these fights (Canelo/Mayweather doesn’t need any help) they are wrong.

Posted May 11, 2013 10:51 am 


Icherrypic@135

Lets see who’s a shot fighter or who’s the next lightweight who’s willing to move up to Welterweight ? That’s your answer folks

Posted May 11, 2013 10:48 am 


zurdo40

Actually Chavez Sr. was not the man above the ring in those fights, it was a double, a robot. Chavez Sr. even does not how to fight. And all was managed by mexican mafia. Some people dont get tired writing crap.

Posted May 11, 2013 9:54 am 


pugfan

Alverez, is becoming a star in his own right. he may not need Floyd?

Posted May 11, 2013 9:48 am 


Prof Konje

Mayweather calls the shots regarding his opponent and the purse. He can choose from any number of opponents between 140 to 147 and complete his Showtime contract. He could very easily freeze out Alvarez for the next two years. Alvarez is in no position to make demands and either is anyone else. That’s just Mayweather.

Posted May 11, 2013 9:42 am 


zurdo40

Floyd is worry about canelo weight advantage at the fight time, but he forgot his adavantage the day before and at fight time against jm marquez. He is not only a p4p bóxer he also is p4p coward.

Posted May 11, 2013 9:38 am 


pugfan

Mayweather should fight Canelo now while he is still a little green. Canelo is only going to improve from hear on out while Floyd will just get a little bit older. Floyd has a better chance of beating Canelo now then latter in my opinion.

Posted May 11, 2013 9:36 am 


Public Enemy

Ruffknight – Nope, Margacheato nor Chavez Sr. would ever have been at their level without those funny Cement Gloves…

Posted May 11, 2013 9:32 am 


zurdo40

Of course, canelo is garbage, he does not represent a worthy challenger to Floyd. Big stars like Robert Guerrero, Amir Khan and even Cotto are better matches. May be a seconf fight with the prime Super Zab Judah!!! why not?

Posted May 11, 2013 9:32 am 


RUFFKNIGHT

Would cheato have ever been anything without those funny gloves?

Posted May 11, 2013 8:51 am 


CK

Public Enemy don’t let your hate derail the fact that Canelo does want the Mayweather fight,it’s Mayweather that probably doesn’t want Canelo. It is all about money and these other guys you mentioned for Caneol won’t give him that huge payday he wants. IMO,i don’t think Canelo is ready for Mayweather.

Posted May 11, 2013 8:47 am 


Public Enemy

Octavious – MargaCheato easily made the 151 catch weight because he didn’t have his 5lb Cement Wraps in each glove… It’s also the Reason smaller Paquiao beat him from pillar to post mopping the floor with him to an inch of his worthless cheating life..

Posted May 11, 2013 8:46 am 


Public Enemy

Octavious – MargaCheato easily made the 15

Posted May 11, 2013 8:44 am 


Public Enemy

All Floyd has to do to checkmate Cinnabum is agree to the 154lb weight and a 2 pound weight Gain limit fight day and Canelo will still get killed by Floyd… Violate the Gain weight limit and you forfeit your belts and purse… Bingo Bango!

Posted May 11, 2013 8:44 am 


Public Enemy

Its put up or shut up time for Canelo, considering how easily Floyd punked Plodding Guererro and how poorly Canelo did vs feather fisted Trout.. Canelos people want nothing to do with Floyd and Now Cotto said he’ll fight Canelo.. Canelo’s fk’d.. its about time the Canelo Hype Machine get derailed.. No fkn way he’s fighting his Mandatory Cuban Lara or Quinlin or Gabriel Rosado.. Maybe he can get a fight with Ivan Calderon…

Posted May 11, 2013 8:34 am 


MILLER

Trout too, he came in at 171.

Posted May 11, 2013 8:34 am 


Public Enemy

I’m sure once Floyd brings up Random Blood testing and Weight Gain Limits Canelo aka Cinnabum will be running for the Border faster then Speedy Gonzalez…

Posted May 11, 2013 8:28 am 


Public Enemy

Cotto was forced to go down to 144lbs and all our Resident Chihuahuas were just fine with that and when Cotto lost they were celebrating.. Now they’re crying because Canelo aka Cinnabum will have to fight Floyd at 147lbs instead of Canelos usual 172+lbs.. ????

Posted May 11, 2013 8:26 am 


Max Emiliano, Advocate for abused women

Canelo at 147 pounds is worst than catchweight, I thought Floyd fought his opponent in their comfortable weight. Margarito out weighted Pacquiao by 17 pounds, it doesn’t make difference in the fight.

Posted May 11, 2013 7:39 am 


Papo

I don’t believe Canelo stand a chance. He barely made it past Trout and perhaps got the decision because the fight took place in San Antonio. Although I saw the fight go either way, Canelo didn’t impress me at all and show signs of fatigue about half way through the fight. In my opinion, Mayweather can easily outbox him.

Posted May 11, 2013 7:15 am 


Beat you badly Bradley

Can Canelo hit Floyd?

Posted May 11, 2013 5:38 am 


Havoc

Fixed fights!!!Win or lose controversial or not….Floyd and golden boy working together!? Man I seen so much WWE type of boxing from Delahoyas fights… this is garbage!

Posted May 11, 2013 4:45 am 



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