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Fish Eyes

K-2- Fan.. Try posting on any boxing article on ESB, other than a Klitschko one, you might seem like less of the K-2 Fantard that any sane reader already knows you are..

Posted May 10, 2013 4:18 pm 


K-2- Fan

This will be my last comment to this Fish Eyed Troll ; Again ; you are totally wrong ! There are lots and lots of posters on this site that I don’t agree with ,
yet have NO problem with . But these are people that have a valid difference of
opinion based on a legitimate point of view . However You , along with a small
bunch of other nitwits like ; Sredmond , Prince , dg , Neil , etc ., have nothing
serious to contribute , because your only agenda is to belittle the Klitchkos .
This to me is juvenile and stupid and I really don’t want to waste my time on you .

Posted May 10, 2013 4:16 pm 


Fish Eyes

Anonymous.. Fair comment, I also think that Wlad is a better fighter than Brewster, I thought Wlad was going to win the first fight. I was just pointing out that Brewster had a bad few years, due to losing and then getting a severe eye injury, prior to the second fight.

Posted May 10, 2013 2:43 pm 


Anonymous

Fish eye said ”Do you think losing your last fight, then having a year and a half out of the ring with a detached retina is ideal preparation going into a world title fight with Wlad? Well? Is it? Answer the question….” Sure its not ideal, but the thing is he would have lost that fight enyway, the only difference from the first fight is that Wlad didnt gas. Not matter how well prepared Brewster would get he would never have beaten Wlad.

Posted May 10, 2013 2:20 pm 


Fish Eyes

Anonymous..”wasnt it great of Vitali, comming back after 4 years layoff with no warm up fights, fighting the champion and then making him quit ? Yup it was, I rate the fight over Peter as his best win.. Got any more questions?

Posted May 10, 2013 12:37 pm 


Fish Eyes

Anonymous…”You could also try to answer my quistion i asked before ‘ So what exactly indicated that Brewster wasnt fit ?” .. I never said Bewster was not fit. I said he LOST the fight prior to fighting Wlad, then was out of the ring with a detached retina for the best part of a year and a half.. Do you think losing your last fight, then having a year and a half out of the ring with a detached retina is ideal preparation going into a world title fight with Wlad? Well? Is it? Answer the question….

Posted May 10, 2013 12:30 pm 


Fish Eyes

K-2- Fan.. “Prior to the Wlad / Hayes fight , you were on here several
times a day , for weeks , posting multiple posts about how great Hayes is and
how bad in comparison Wlad is . After Wlad easily disposed of Hayes , you disappeared like a LOT of Hayes fans .” No I never, I stated clearly that Haye had to win early and if not he would be in deep trouble the longer the fight lasted. I was straight on here after the fight and congratulated Wlad on the win. I also said the video Wlad posted after the fight, where he never said anything and just held up all those photos, was hilarious, you are a lying POS.. K-2- Fan.. “As for Vitaly , every time Vitaly / Lennox
came up , you NEVER missed an opportunity to badmouth Vitaly .” Saying I rate Lewis more than Vitali, who I have CONSTANTLY said is A GREAT FIGHTER that would have a chance of beating any heavyweight in history, is not bad mouthing Vitali.. you are just a bitter fantard that moans at anyone that will not agree with you 100%

Posted May 10, 2013 12:23 pm 


K-2- Fan

O.K. Fish Balls , I can remind you , about when you were badmouthing both Wlad AND Vitaly ! Prior to the Wlad / Hayes fight , you were on here several
times a day , for weeks , posting multiple posts about how great Hayes is and
how bad in comparison Wlad is . After Wlad easily disposed of Hayes , you disappeared like a LOT of Hayes fans . As for Vitaly , every time Vitaly / Lennox
came up , you NEVER missed an opportunity to badmouth Vitaly . So don’t
pretend , stop lying and be a man and admit it !

Posted May 9, 2013 3:48 pm 


Fish Eyes

Or Wlad… Lol

Posted May 9, 2013 2:57 pm 


Fish Eyes

Anonymous.. Lol, post one negative thing I have said about Vitali then?

Posted May 9, 2013 12:25 pm 


Anonymous

Fishy lol its not about reading your comment. You are also the one going on about negative things about Vitali, so therefor i mentioned Vitali. Enyway your waste of time.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:43 am 


Anonymous

Foul play.

Posted May 9, 2013 12:44 am 


TARK

Brewster took much more punishment in the first fight… But I think he knew Wladimir was going to gas out and he’d be easy meat.. His corner told him “Even though you’re losing rounds you’ll win if you hang in there a few more rounds. He’ll never finish.” I believe they knew something the rest of us didn’t. They got the signal from Souza that the deed was done.

Posted May 8, 2013 8:45 pm 


Anonymous

lol @ “Brewster wasn’t fit.” And this is Wlad’s problem because? Brewster = KTFO in the rematch, end of story.

Posted May 8, 2013 8:16 pm 


TARK

To me, Wladimir has 2 legitimate losses… And Vitali has one legitimate loss to Chris Byrd, due to injury when he was miles ahead. VK was ahead of Lewis on ALL cards and the fight should have been decided by the scorecards because LL ripped open those cuts with the palm and heel of his right glove while holding Vitali in a headlock.. Lewis went so far as to flagrantly rub the palm of his right glove in Vitali’s face.. drawing a fleeting warning from Lou Moret, who didn’t stop the action or issue a verbal warning.. A timid looking Moret fleetingly held up the palm of his hand in a pushing motion while looking at Lewis…as Lewis paid no attention whatever.. Moret is the same guy who refereed Gerrero-Berto, and Allowed Gerrero to commit a 100 fouls without calling one—and to throw 20 punches after the final bell without stopping Guerrero, grabbing him, or saying a damned thing.. I think he’s for hire.

Posted May 8, 2013 7:01 pm 


Fish Eyes

Anonymous..”Fish Eyes.. you make a big deal out of Brewster being away for one and a half year. To follow your logic, then you would have to give credit for Vitali who was away for 4 years due to injury´s, but had his comeback fight against the worldchampion, and he schooled him. oh dear these contradictions from those who goes on about this hopeles anti klitschko campaign are unbelievable.” I never mentioned Vitali.. I said “Wlad is a great fighter.” Learn to read…

Posted May 8, 2013 6:43 pm 


K-2- Fan

Tark , what you say makes a lot of sense . There definitely had to be some form of foul play ! In any case what happened to the blood test Wlad was given ? It somehow mysteriously disappeared .

Posted May 8, 2013 6:28 pm 


Anonymous

Fish Eyes
So what exactly indicated that Brewster wasnt fit ?. The only difference was that Wlad didnt gas, and then he had no problem stopping Brewster.
And you make a big deal out of Brewster being away for one and a half year. To follow your logic, then you would have to give credit for Vitali who was away for 4 years due to injury´s, but had his comeback fight against the worldchampion, and he schooled him. oh dear these contradictions from those who goes on about this hopeles anti klitschko campaign are unbelievable. Try to focus on something less futile.

Posted May 8, 2013 6:05 pm 


Fish Eyes

Wlad is a great fighter, but people are still allowed to be critical of him, same as people are allowed to be critical of other great fighters.. Difference is, if you say ANYTHING wrong about either K Bros, Loads of retards crawl out and call you a hater, Yank, Brit or troll…

Posted May 8, 2013 5:53 pm 


Anonymous

K-2- Fan dam right. But its those small things from almost 10 years ago that matters so much for KL, shredmon, Princes an others.

Posted May 8, 2013 5:46 pm 


Fish Eyes

TARK… “Wladimir had zero problems with Brewster in their rematch.” Yup.. The rematch being after Brewster lost the fight prior versus Siarhei Liakhovich, then spent almost a year and a half out of the ring due to a detached retina. Clearly Brewster was in prime condition heading into this rematch with Wladimir.. You forget to mention such details, as usual.. Eh Tark?

Posted May 8, 2013 5:22 pm 


TARK

K-2… Wladimir easily went many more rounds with Chris Byrd, Jameel McCline, Axel Schulz, and Monte Barrett before he ever fought Lamon Brewster… He never had any problem with endurance except for late in the Puritty fight, where his was sick from the flu and underweight before the fight. Wladimir was very conscientious about cardio even 10 years ago. He said he felt horribly weak, fatigued, and dizzy in round 5—even before he was hit by a punch. After Joe Souza knocked a big piece of flesh off Vitali’s left eye—caught on tape in his Lewis fight—he was let go by the brothers. They returned to dismissed speculation that Souza, who rubbed Wladimir’s legs and body with Vaseline prior to the first Brewster fight, may have used Vaseline mixed with an agent, such as propranolol, that can be absorbed through the skin, and ordinarily would be relatively harmless, but since it slows the heartbeat it would be disastrous for a vigorously competing athlete. At any rate the fight turned around on a dime, from Wladimir killing Brewster to getting run out of the ring by Brewster. Certain drugs like propranolol would be hard to detect except by a specific test. Wladimir had zero problems with Brewster in their rematch.

Posted May 8, 2013 4:23 pm 


Anonymous

Sad that they are reduced to bringing up fights from almost 10 years ago. What happened to Brewster in the rematch? They never mention that.

Posted May 8, 2013 4:18 pm 


K-2- Fan

KL : ” what kind of champion gasses out , only after four rounds ” ? The kind
that learns from his mistakes , develops an impenetrable defense , works on
his cardio , until he can go 12 rounds ( even with a guy who runs from him in panic all night ) ,
doesn’t loose a round in the next ten years , takes on ANYONE that has the balls to face HIM , makes every opponent , big or small , look like an amateur , and becomes the best Heavyweight in history ! That kind !!!

Posted May 8, 2013 2:24 pm 


Coucou

My mistake Tark, he didn’t score 78%, his IQ was 78 whatever…

Posted May 8, 2013 1:28 pm 


TARK

Coucou…, You wrote, “Ali may have scored 78%” … 78% wouldn’t be too bad as a grade goes, but Ali scored 78… The average IQ is 100 — not 100% … Just letting you in on these little things.

Posted May 8, 2013 10:56 am 


Coucou

Right Tark, Ali finished 5 losses but the first one against Frazier could have gone either way, and 2 of them 5 occured when he was diagnosied Parkinson syndrom. I never said Ali was Einstein, what I meant is that he had a plan B and could restructure a fight, Ali may have scored 78% but that does not mean he was not a naturally smart person and in the ring as well.
And don’t forget one thing dear open-minded Tark If you desperately wanted to fail a test you could manage a 72 for sure.
It was Ali´s way to tell them :
Hey, you don´t want an idiot like me. Accept it and we´re both where we want to be. Just sayin’..

Posted May 8, 2013 10:17 am 


K-2- Fan

Judging just from his last few posts alone , bfan , would never make the I.Q.
barrier either . And I bet he can’t even fight !

Posted May 8, 2013 9:22 am 


TARK

Coucou… “Ali always found a way to win even when behind on points and had a very high ring IQ.” … Hmmm…that’s funny, because Ali lost to massive underdogs Norton and Spinks—and finished his career with 5 losses, so I guess he found a way to lose a few.. Ali should have lost a lot more but got several gift decisions.. It doesn’t display a high ring IQ to hide behind your gloves and take excessively punishing head shots the way Ali did.. That doesn’t do anything to raise your IQ.

The Army drafted Ali and tested his IQ. The score was made public. To nobody’s surprise it was 78. It wasn’t high enough to meed the minimum US military standard, which was 85. A few months later the standard was lowered to 78—so Ali qualified for the draft at that point. I still wonder if a few pissed off southern congressmen and senators got the IQ standard lowered especially for Ali. He had a lot of haters in those days.

Posted May 8, 2013 2:21 am 


All the stories have been told Of kings and days of old, But there’s no England now

British a-holes up and at em early again and spewing the BS hard and heavy.

Posted May 8, 2013 1:06 am 


Bfan

I meant only one fight he was seriously hurt in and won.

Posted May 8, 2013 12:49 am 


Bfan

Hurt in and won.

Posted May 8, 2013 12:47 am 


Bfan

Listen the more foul language and personal attacks ya’ll assign to your comments the weaker the argument. Obviously I am not saying WK is a bad boxer. I am talking about how he compares to other great boxers. He falls short with this one weakness(not his only weakness but most telling), he panicks when hurt or hit flush. Wk has only won one fight he was hurt in. He seems to have no heart. Lets just see if one of the current contenders tests his fragile psyche. This is compounded by the weak opposition of his opponents. Oh yes all the all time greats fought some weak opponents. One final point, Holmes was not blessed with an iron chin but when hurt he found a way to recover and win.

Posted May 8, 2013 12:46 am 


full English breakfast

“I don’t understand all the unnecessary hate towards the Klitschkos here. Whether it’s a racial thing or a national thing”

In the UK it’s national, in America it’s racial.

Posted May 7, 2013 9:09 pm 


KL

Tommy Morrison dominated and bullied Mercer for the first 3 rounds only to be brutally KOed by Mercer in round 5. Why is it that Wlad fans claim that he must of “gassed” in his fight with Brewster because he “dominated”
the previous rounds against Brewster.
Mercer like Brewster was tough and resilient and came on strong to turn the tables on their opponents in fights that they were losing…….it happens in boxing……..it’s not necessarily how well you start……but how well you finish that counts in boxing!

Posted May 7, 2013 7:21 pm 


Pete

Changing the topic slightly but Haye must be the biggest myth in recent times in the heavyweight division. He has beaten absolutely no one at the weight. He has only fought one elite fighter and we all saw the result. Seriously Barrett was a total journey man and an old one to booth when Haye tangoed with him. Ruiz was knocking 40 years of age and had losses approaching double digits. Valuev was as ponderous and slow as they came lucky to escape with a ‘w’ over a 50 year old Holyfield. And Haye struggled big time on the scorecards still. Audley Harrison? C’mon. Sugar Ray Chisora? Now he is taking on the very one dimensional Charr. Who are these 5 undefeated contenders that Booth announced he was in contact with during the presser for Haye’s announced comeback? Jennings? Pulev? Spilka? Wilder? Obviously Booth never was in such contact but since the British public are ever so gullible and believe anything that Haye and Booth spin they get away with it. Very very sad. And I saw Haye actually trashing Pianetta as an opponent! But it’s okay for him to take on Charr??? Where’s the sense? Well to most British it makes perfect sense apparently. He’s David Haye after all. Wears the Union Jack on his shorts therefore can do no wrong

Posted May 7, 2013 6:12 pm 


Pete

I don’t understand all the unnecessary hate towards the Klitschkos here. Whether it’s a racial thing or a national thing (i.e. a countryman or men where whipped, I’m thinking Haye in particular and his ever so gullible British fanbase). Who knows, but I’m quite sure the bros will get the respect they deserve once all is said and done. Living legends. Top 10 easy, I’d go for top 5 personally.

Posted May 7, 2013 6:00 pm 


K-2- Fan

Fish Eyed Fool ; Some time ago there was a retard on ESB , who
did multiple posts in a row , like you , probably because he couldn’t focus on what it was
that he was trying to say , within a single tought , like you , and like you , he started almost every post by quoting a poster he was addressing . To
EVERYONE’S relief , ESB banned him , for being an obnoxious twat , and
everyone breathed a sigh of relief . Well , here you are again , hiding under
another name , but as dumb and as obnoxious as ever !

Posted May 7, 2013 5:52 pm 


smith

well neil there soon will be a hall of fame fighter on wladimir record. it you didn’t hear yet they saying ray mercer is going in the hall of fame.

Posted May 7, 2013 5:14 pm 


Bluzie

Anyway Lewis will be forever remembered as the man with the streak of yellow running up his back. Lets move on.

Posted May 7, 2013 5:06 pm 


Bluzie

Coucou says
” Last time I saw Wlad hurt it was from the only shot landed by legend Wach, so imagine Lewis or Foreman connect the same chin and you will give more respect idiot. ”

Well how about this. Last time I saw Wlad taken out by a single shot was….ummm…NEVER! He always rose. Great natural fighters heart. Lennox Lewis on the other hand was taken out CLEAN by Mc Call and Rahmam ffs so “imagine Wlad Klitschko connect the same chin and you will give more respect idiot “

Posted May 7, 2013 5:05 pm 


K-2- Fan

Fish Eyed Troll ; Wow , all those injuries and medical problems of Chuvalo !
That’s probably because he had such a ” great defense ” . And all he has to
show for it is , that morons like you consider this some kind of boxing ” heroism ” . If you had a half a brain , you’d understand that ; what Tark was trying to tell you is , that Chulalo had lousy defense . In fact , he almost had NO defense , and that’s why he took such punishment . But I guess , if your idea of ” exiting ” boxing , is seeing how many times a guy can get hit in the head , and not die , then Chuvalo and Ali should drive you delirious .

Posted May 7, 2013 4:40 pm 


Coucou

Carlos the murderer, at least Ali had the asset to be a punching ball, could take a sustained amount of punishment and still stay on his feet, wlad can’t.

Posted May 7, 2013 4:35 pm 


Spot of tea

British trolls still in action as this thread approaches 500 comments.

Posted May 7, 2013 4:34 pm 


Coucou

KL right about the Brewster revenge, even waldimir himself told the press at the time he was surprised brewster didn’t take any warm up.

Posted May 7, 2013 4:27 pm 


KL

curtley I don’t agree with you statement that Wlads win over Brewster in their second fight “wipes” the original fight out.
Brewster had just come back into boxing after eye surgery and a 15 months out of the ring…….and Brewster didn’t even take any warm up fights.Brewster was not the same fighter he was before his lay off.
But it was a silly fight for Brewster to take after such a long lay off……even Wlad himself wouldn’t take on a top contender as his first fight after a 15 month layoff due to eye surgery. Had Brewster taken a few warm up fights team Brewster would have known that there man was no longer the fighter he was, and it would be fool hardy to take on Wlad.

Posted May 7, 2013 2:26 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

..

Posted May 7, 2013 12:17 pm 


Coucou

Carlos Monzon, Punching ball Ali always found a way to win even when behind on points and had a very high ring IQ. In contrast terrible chin Wlad Klit froze from the first shot he receive. Last time I saw Wlad hurt it was from the only shot landed by legend Wach, so imagine Lewis or Foreman connect the same chin and you will give more respect idiot.

Posted May 7, 2013 12:13 pm 


Pete

Three “legends” of the ring. Louis, Holmes, Marciano. All three fought in woeful eras to be fair. C’mon, what decent guys (in there fighting prime) were around during there reigns? These eras are considerably worse then the current K2 era imho, which is littered with young and hingry fighters (made to look impotent each time they fight a K of course). Yet as bad as those other eras were for those 3 legends, they are still considered that, legends. So why not the K brothers as well, who in many categories are more dominant then either of the above? I’m sure they will be remembered as legends in time but I’m curious to the k bashers on this thread why don’t you consider them legends already? And do you consider any of the above 3 legends?

Posted May 7, 2013 11:42 am 


K-2- Fan

” Lewis avenged his defeats and ” BEAT ” Vitaly ” ?! HA, HA, HA !!!
Yeah , right !

Posted May 7, 2013 11:36 am 


Neil (Pomy)

Wladimir still considers Ali the greatest i think.

Posted May 7, 2013 11:29 am 


Neil (Pomy)

… now cue the abuse, lol

Posted May 7, 2013 11:28 am 


Neil (Pomy)

lol. You guys just need to chill ….. they are only boxers, you shouldnt get so worked up because everyone doesnt see it your way. For me both Wlad and Vitali, as good as they are, have benifited from one of the worst era’s ever. I think both K-brothers are good enough to beat some of the legends …. but others would of beaten them. Neither of them have beaten any considered ‘great’ …. no future hall-of-famers on their records. Too many Pianetta’s, Mormecks, Briggs-level on their records …. and those they have lost too were not that impressive. Sanders was always a fringe contender, Purity was a journeyman, Brewster was basic. Ali, Holmes, Holyfield, Lewis would of beaten them imho.

Posted May 7, 2013 11:27 am 


curtley

Nobody ever addresses the fact that Sanders and Purity beat Wlad and he never avenged them defeats, he did with Brewster impressively which wipes that defeat out. Purity he gassed so I can give him a pass but he was demolished by Sanders which will always hurt his legacy at least when comparing them Lewis avenged his defeats and beat Vitali so for me he ranks higher.

Posted May 7, 2013 11:15 am 


Hero Toe Zero

Lots of toe suckers from Jolly old England making most of the negative comments here.

Posted May 7, 2013 10:31 am 


Coucou

Hal good racit comment Keep up mate. KL LMAO indeed Tark could definely do this, but he will tell you Wlad said that because he’s a very humble and respectful person.

Posted May 7, 2013 10:26 am 


hal

If Wlad was a thug, crashed his car, was in and out of jail, beat his girl friend cursed, and boasted how great he was his fights would be on HBO and he would be big in America.

Posted May 7, 2013 10:15 am 


KL

Wlad himself says that “Ali was the greatest to hold the belts that he now holds……..so Wlad certainly doesn’t think Ali was overrated, perhaps Tark and could fire off an email to Wlad to tell him how wrong he is!!!

Posted May 7, 2013 10:14 am 


K-2- Fan

bfan ; you and your constant harp about ; ” deep water ” . Have you ever stopped to think , that the reason NO ONE has been able to take Wlad into
” deep water ” is , that after the humiliation and the learning experience of the Sanders loss , Wlad , LEARNED TO SWIMM ?!

Posted May 7, 2013 9:57 am 


Coucou

Bfan you’re right but no worries because when you listen to Tark everyone smaller stand O chance eg: litle 220 Foreman, little 205 Frazier, little 215 ALi… The Tark references are the 250 big boys like “Inept” Wach, “Chinna chinned” Tye Fields, or “no heart” Dimitrenko. But at same time he’s agree to tell little Chambers beat Dimitrenko the big guy with ease because Chambers is unique with very specials skills, go figure out…

Posted May 7, 2013 9:27 am 


All the stories have been told Of kings and days of old, But there’s no England now

Fact is the Klitschkos with their size and skill would be dominant in any era.

Posted May 7, 2013 9:18 am 


bfan

Are we having a hard time with the Chuvalo snipe. The more personal the attacks the weaker the argument. With todays workouts and roids many of the pasts fighters wouldn’t bulked up. Listen the point I am making is that WK has been taken into deep water 4 times. He is 1 and 3 in those fights. Since his first peter fight no one has been willing to go deep with WK, so I reserve judgement til someone steps up and goes for it.

Posted May 7, 2013 8:51 am 


Anonymous

Piece of garbage, angry British trolls.

Posted May 7, 2013 6:37 am 


Neil (Pomy)

that post was for Bluzie

Posted May 7, 2013 4:45 am 


Neil (Pomy)

….. lol, here we go again. Get over yourself and grow up a bit!!!! I am happy to have that debate with the more sensible element of Klitckho’s fan-base and not someone like you. Many on ESB, who are Klitckho fans, can take criticism and come back with an argument ….. fans like you however just act like someone has just insulted your mother. I will be back on here later to see if any of the Klitckho fans that I respect have come on … then I will happily engage in a sensible debate. You are just an angry hero-worshipping, fanboy.

Posted May 7, 2013 4:44 am 


Spin the Kinks

Brits up at at em early again adding more posts to this thread and now blaming Americans for being the huge Klit supporters in this thread. At some point in every discussion they have to blame Americans for something. American TV doesn’t even run the Klit fights.

Posted May 7, 2013 4:42 am 


Bluzie

I reckon anyone who tries to sugar-coat that they “respect” the Ks and “admire their skills” etc. but then in the same breath say something like “I’d consider them top 15″, to me that’s someone who either doesn’t know boxing and the history of the sport very well or someone who does but is simply a covert Klitschko hater. Which 10+ champions could you possibly put infront of the brothers with a straight face? If someone was bold enough to undertake this task then comparing the achievements and resume of the Ks against one of these 10+ fighters would be the equivalent of comparing the Mona Lisa to a doodle that my 7 year old daughter did at kindergarten. The length of title reign, the number of defenses, the amounts of rounds won (dominated) compared to the amounts of rounds lost ratio, the OPPOSITION (yes, most haters bring this into question, while some of them might be somewhat anonymous, still check out their records, now compare said records to some of the opposition of Ali, of Louis’s bum of the month etc.), KO percentages, and in Vitali’s case-never being off his feet. The brothers boxing careers to date literally sh it on nearly every other heavyweight career that’s been established. Yet some won’t even want them in the top 10??? That is nothing but H-A-T-E. Sugar coat it which way you like

Posted May 7, 2013 4:36 am 


Neil (Pomy)

Im not a fan, but in Britain the K-brothers are respected as sportsmen and as athletes ….. but like it or not, their styles are an acquired-taste. Im sure even their harshest haters will admit that they are skilled, technically-sound and very hard to beat. Personally, I would have no problem in ranking both brothers in the top 15 heavyweights of all time …. some will rank them higher, some lower. Some of you K-brother fans take the criticism too much too heart …. its all part of the game and the banter.

Posted May 7, 2013 4:01 am 


TARK

Chuvalo landed a lot of punches on Ali in their 2nd fight… Ali got caught with a lot of his slow lumbering punches. Ali was really not a very good defender. Nowhere close to the Klitschkos. Little Joe Frazier also found a home for his left hook on Ali’s jaw. I had Ali winning the fight with rounds scoring which was used at the time… But with the better points scoring method I would give Frazier 2-point rounds in the 11th and 15th, giving him the victory. I always thought the rounds scoring system was terrible because rounds are won by greatly varying margins.

Posted May 7, 2013 3:10 am 


Alonzo

Chuvalo didn’t look bad against Ali in their second fight–he was a lot like Tex Cobb. Saw him on some home makeover show recently–I think it was “Holmes on Homes”–with that title they shoulda had the Easton Assassin instead of Chuvalo!

Posted May 6, 2013 11:59 pm 


TARK

This was a long time ago… It may have been round 2 for Blue KOing Corrletti. But the guy did beat Chuvalo.

Posted May 6, 2013 11:43 pm 


TARK

Chuvalo had about 20 losses… 203 pound Joe Frazier stopped him very quickly.. Green as grass rookie George Foreman stopped him even faster.. Even some bum named Edwardo Corrletti beat Chuvalo… Corrletti was a bum Blue Lewis smashed out in the 1st round and I was there… Corrletti was worse than terrible.

Chuvalo couldn’t box or punch… He had a face very similar to that of southpaw Heavyweight Champion Ruslan Chagaev, but nowhere near the speed or boxing skill Chagaev had at his best… Chuvalo would make 7′ X 330lb Nicolay Valuev look fast… At least Valuev was fast enough to KO Monte Barrett… Barrett beat a much younger David Tua who had 10 X the speed and power of Chuvalo … Gee Whiz Chuvalo. These guys are getting desperate.

Posted May 6, 2013 11:39 pm 


harry

Swedish boxing fan understands boxing very well. great posts!

Posted May 6, 2013 11:21 pm 


harry

that’s right! BRITTARDS TROLLS ERNIE AND NEIL ARE IN BED RIGHT NOW…TOGETHER!!! HAH!!!

Posted May 6, 2013 11:08 pm 


Living on a thin line

brittards are in bed right now but you can bet your ass they will be up bright and early Tuesday morning, running up the post count on this topic and calling for a wlad-haye rematch while tearing down everything wlad has ever done. haye s***s on them with that garbage performance july 2, 2011, and they beg for more. unbelievable.

Posted May 6, 2013 9:36 pm 


harry

60-3, 52 KO’S IS THE BEST RESUME OF A SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT OF ALL TIME. VLADIMIR KLICHKO IS A LIVING LEGEND OF BOXING.

Posted May 6, 2013 9:07 pm 


harry

bfan you are a stupid BRITARD TROLL. go watch wwe theater you moron. Even punchbag Golota would have beaten a bum like chuvala hands down!

Posted May 6, 2013 9:00 pm 


Ruskull

Almost 400 comments and still counting.

Posted May 6, 2013 8:34 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

LOL @ LoL…

Posted May 6, 2013 7:32 pm 


bfan

there isn’t a WK opponent that chuvalo coundn’t beat I know thats taking it too far Its not the total record its the record against top boxers Its the career defining fights getting knocked down and getting up and winning. Ali fought Frazier,Norton, Shavers, Foreman, Chuvalo, Lyle, Liston, Bonavena, Patterson, Cooper, Moore.

Posted May 6, 2013 7:27 pm 


I may have Tarked my shorts after eating too much Taco Bell

Oh don’t even worry, Wladdie will get KTFO once again by a bum and after the nuthuggers show their faces again after an extended boo hoo, some may realize he is the king of a weak era. Others will still slob on the knob.

Posted May 6, 2013 7:21 pm 


TARK

Ali received a many gift decisions… One vs Jimmy Young… 2 vs Ken Norton… One vs Doug Jones… One vs Leon Spinks… Instead of 5 losses he should have 10 losses … That’s not counting the unjustified stoppage of the Ron Lyle fight who was ahead in the scoring when a corrupt referee stopped the fight in favor of Ali.. An angry Lyle, who was obviously unshaken and unhurt, immediatly followed the referee across the ring, shouting, “WHY DID YOU STOP IT?” … If you don’t believe me the fight is on YouTube. Lyle said he knew he was ahead, but Ali had been doing nothing the whole fight, so he was trying to get Ali to expend some energy that round, so he (Lyle) didn’t have a deficit going down the stretch. As he was telling Ali to “bring it” The referee stepped in to stop it. “I was flabbergasted by the stoppage. The commission should order a rematch.”

Posted May 6, 2013 7:18 pm 


TARK

Frazier was a fat 5’10” X 205 when he whipped Ali… Frazier showed his quality when he finally had to fight a big, strong puncher: George Foreman, who went 6’3″ X 217 for Frazier. Frazier got CRUSHED in 2 rounds.. If only Frazier could box as well as feather fisted Jimmy Young he could have easily out-boxed Foreman.. Young, 6’1″ X 211 with a ring record of 20-5, knocked Foreman down, popped him around, and humilitated him by UD.. Then you had Ken Norton…a China chnned guy who was knocked stiff as a board by a Jose Garcia, who had 12 wins who weighed 188.. That made Norton a 12-1 underdog to Ali. Norton beat Ali very badly for at least 11 of 12 rounds, but one idiot judge gave it to Ali who lost by SD.

That’s the quality of guys who beat a prime Ali, 29 and 31 years old.
Not to mention Ali was knocked down and almost out by 185 pound Brit Henry Cooper, who had a ton of losses on his record.

Posted May 6, 2013 6:42 pm 


K-2- Fan

Ha ! Look WHO is calling ME a Slave ?! Don’t you have things a little backwards coockoo ? And what do I care who kicked russians asses anyway ,
you retarded , narrow minded , bigoted moron !

Posted May 6, 2013 6:27 pm 


nameless

Boxing is way less attractive than normal american sports. Deny it all you want but its true

Posted May 6, 2013 4:36 pm 


K-2- Fan

Coockoo : Yeah , I can see that you have NO clue what I was talking about , by your answer . Oh , and I forgot ; they DIDN’T have football and basketball in those days when Ali an the other ” greats ” fought . It’s only when the Klitchkos
started kicking ass , all those big guys , who would of course run heavyweight boxing now , suddenly ; discovered football and basketball ! Perfect !

Posted May 6, 2013 4:04 pm 


Coucou

Don’t worry for me K2 fan, I see your point about nationality but what I meant is wlad don’t fight abroad very often like Ali used to. Nobody cares if Ali didn’t fight all the melting pot. The real dudes in the 70 were americans, nowadays there choose NFL or Basketball instead.

Posted May 6, 2013 1:26 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Ther is NO heavyweight out there who can top him. Wladimir Klitschko is the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world (Lineal, IBF, WBA, WBO, IBO) and the most dominant heavyweight fighter sence Lennox Lewis era. Look here – David Haye, Alexander Povetkin, Bermane Stiverne, Robert Helenius, Tyson Fury, Magomed Abdusalamov, Tomaz Adamek, Deontay Wilder, Chris Arreola, Odlianer Solis, David Price, Kubrat Pulev, Steve Cunningham, Jonathon Banks, Denis Boytsov, Seth Mitchell, Bryant Jennings, Vyacheslav Glazkov and Lucas Brown are all the top heavyweights and good fighters but NON of them can beat a prime Wladimir Klitschko. To be short – Wladimir Klitschko is the best heavyweight in the world.

Posted May 6, 2013 12:33 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Congratulations to heavyweight champion of the world Wladimir Klitschko (60-3-0 KO’s 51) for his dominant victory against Francesko Pianeta (28-1-1 KO’s 15). Klitschko made his 14th world heavyweight title defence in a row in his 23rd world title career fight. With other words Wladimir Klitschko is an amazing champion and athlete and made Pianeta look easy like an rookie in the ring and just dominated him with power and ease. Okey so Wladimir had an easy top fight, mabey a bit and there are some better opponents out there BUT fighters like Alexander Povetkin, Tyson Fury, Chris Arreola, Tomaz Adamek, Odlianer Solis etc are running away from him so how many top opponents are there to pick of whats left? Annyway Pianete was just ment as an “keep buissy” opponent and he is a top ranked heavyweight contender (7# by WBO and 12# by WBA) who have defeated some top names in heavyweight like former world heavyweight champion Oliver McCal and world title challangers Frans Botha, Albert Sosnowski and Matt Skelton and more so he had some expearence to be up there but then again obviusly not enough to win. I say it was well enough and I wish Wladimir Klitschko will stay on top for a long time and get nthe fight against Alexander Povetkin.

Posted May 6, 2013 12:14 pm 


no name

Klitschko should fight some GLASSJAWED BRITISH BUM next

Posted May 6, 2013 11:47 am 


Brent

Well, what can be said? Predictable fight, but Wladimir just keeps adding to his list of victims. People say the HW division is talent-poor, but even so, when someone dominates as long as Wladimir now has, it is time to give the man his due. Klitschko may not be the GOAT, but he is starting to make a strong claim for top ten status or higher.

Posted May 6, 2013 11:20 am 


RAy gordon reid

PROVETINKEN FPR WLAD OR VITALI

Posted May 6, 2013 11:14 am 


Coucou

Gaz I know what you mean but Wlad fought too scary and cautious as well against Haye, and as he said himself he knows he has a boring style then, don’t want to get caught anymore since the sanders debacle. As for Haye beating Valuev, com’ on a 150 years old Holyfield beat Valuev what an achievement ! You didn’t mention the fact that Haye was floored by a punch drunk Barrett, who get destroyed in 2 by Fat Solis.
About Calvin Brock and Thompson, they’re ok opposition but we didn’t much know about them except that Thompson stopped an overrated and down the road Krasniqui and a green Price, and will see what happen in the revenge
As for Ibragimov you are a hater yourself by saying he beat an ancient Holyfield, and who else he beat BTW ? Holyfield was already beaten many times at this stage. Ibragimov and Chagaev were better amateur than pro to me, I don’t really know how to rate them.

Posted May 6, 2013 10:50 am 


Tark

Actually he wasn’t retired, I know all things Klitschko. He was just spending 75% of his efforts on the Kiev political scene, 12% on training, 10% of the time telling me and me only all the secret stuff I know. The remaining 3% was spent doing various activities I am not at liberty to pass along at this point in time. Look at me!! Look at me!!

Posted May 6, 2013 10:31 am 


matthews

Also vitali was retired when wlad went on his run. If anything vk coming back kind of messed him up.

Posted May 6, 2013 9:51 am 


Gaz

Coucou that is the typical hater response, and that is why your like will never give the brothers any credit. How do YOU know he hasn’t fought any real “threats” since the Sanders fight?? What makes you so certain? (other than the fact that you are a hater). Haye had many people convinced he was gonna topple Wlad. Hell the whole of the British island bought into his crap. Do you honestly believe Haye thought in his head “okay I’m gonna show up and NOT take a chance”?? Of course he tried, like all the rest, but found Wlads foot-work, defence, and hand speed too much to deal with. Tony Thompson wasn’t a threat? Well you better ask David Price that. Thompson has only lost to Wlad to date bar an early points loss in his 4th fight. Coincidence? Southpaw Ruslan Chagaev, who easily beat Valuev was undefeated (and the rightful WBA champ), young, and hungry. As was Brock. Ibragomov too was the undefeated WBO champ who had recently schooled a still semi-effective Holyfield among others. After Peter was destroyed the second time by Wlad he takes on Helenius and gives Helenius HELL for 8 rounds before Helenius detonated in the 9th. It’s so dam easy for the haters to sit back smug and proclaim that “the brothers only fight bums” “this is the worst era ever” bla-dee-bla. As Lou diBella said on Saturday’s epix coverage of the fight, it’s NOT that the contenders are that bad, it’s simply that Wlad is THAT good. Haters will hate.

Posted May 6, 2013 9:50 am 


matthews

How you figure that. Vitali only beat purrity and sanders who defeated WK. Who else on VK resume you think could beat wlad.

Posted May 6, 2013 9:47 am 


rod

I totally agree with Coucou

Posted May 6, 2013 9:34 am 


Coucou

Gaz, I’m not a hater and I was expecting to this answer tough. But The fact is the real treaths he fought since the loss to Sanders are Brewster against he lost, average sam peter who put him down 3 times, and Haye who never took a chance. He avenged againt a shot Brewster, and meet up a damaged goods Sam Peter who between fought Vitali.
Instead Ali and Holyfield have fought more ATG than wlad ever dream to fight which means more pain got it ? If Wlad didn’t have a brother named Vitali, his carrer would have probably ended after the Sanders fiasco.

Posted May 6, 2013 9:22 am 


KL

Neil et al……..are you serious about Fury being a good match up against Wlad???
Anyone with a hope of putting up a good fight with Wlad (let alone beating him) has to have an excellent defense. Fury very definitely does not have a good defense, it only took Pajkic and Cunning just 5 minutes to breach Fury’s defense……..Wlad would find Fury’s defense easier than Pienata’s!

Posted May 6, 2013 9:18 am 


Gaz

“Wlad has alraedy 37 y’old, but he never took punisment like Ali or Holyfield” yes, and the reason is simples. It’s because Wlad is far technically superiour to both! He’s too dam good to be drawn into a rock’em sock’em type war. When are the haters gonna realise this? Well never of course, cause a leopard dont change its spots. Sad though.

Posted May 6, 2013 8:44 am 


Mick the Marmalizer

Wlad vs Povetkin has to be next, with hopefully Haye/Pulev on the undercard as #1 eliminator!

Posted May 6, 2013 8:33 am 


Xavier

Wlad is THE man right now. He’s racking up all-time great numbers. These are facts. Him and his brother have basically cleaned out the division. Wlad beat Haye, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Byrd (twice), Brock, Austin, Brewster in a rematch, Thompson (twice) who demolished David Price, Chambers etc. Vitali took care of the rest.
Of the others, Povetkin, Pulev and Fury are about the best left available.
Just watched the Wlad-Haye match again recently and David didn’t back up his pre-match talk. He doesn’t deserve another shot at Wlad. Haye spent quite a lot of that bout flopping to the canvas. He wouldn’t beat Wlad in a rematch either.

Posted May 6, 2013 8:05 am 


matthews

Challenged by who povetkin. OK. Alas would probably have a tougher time with Huck.

Posted May 6, 2013 8:04 am 


Coucou

Yeah, and it is very funny how Tark and the others try to sell those bums like they were better than the bums from others eras, sound pathetic to me.

Posted May 6, 2013 7:52 am 


matthews

All voluntary. When these so called threats gonna step up. Povetkin has been a mandatory for how long now 3 years.

Posted May 6, 2013 7:51 am 


Devastator

Wlad fights only bums, mormeck, wach and pianeta…keep buying tickets dumb german fans.

Posted May 6, 2013 7:33 am 


John

Pls name one English/ UK HW who hasn’t been exposed by either K-bro. Make an impression on the isle against each other, get beat up overseas.

Posted May 6, 2013 6:50 am 


Coucou

Tark once again, we don’t give a damn s…. that ALi meet The likes Of Coopman, Dunn, Lubbers, Evangelista because it was juste to prove that Ali could travel around the world and fight the people champion unlike klit, plus, it was at the end of his career after having been through wars.
Besides, you are entiteld to your opinion to suggest they were worse than Wlad opposition, especially Evangelista who is better than Wach, or Mormeck for instance.
What you never mention is that Ali beat better opposition than Wlad against Foreman or Liston who had the style to give Wlad hell with their pressure style and longer reach.

Posted May 6, 2013 6:36 am 


Gaz

Agreed Neil, Fury and Pulev would be very interesting match-ups. I think both Pulev and Povetkin fights are a gaurantee though (providing Alexander gets past his man 2 weeks from now). I’ve waited so long for a Wlad-Povetkin match-up. On paper it’s a very good-match up. Povetkin is a very worthy dangerous fighter but I’m sure Wlad will dominate still as he always does (cause he’s that dam good) and then all the K haters will crawl out of the woodwork once more proclaiming Povetkin as just another bum. As for Fury, would love to see that as well but im not to confident Fury will stay unbeaten. He is by far the weakest out of the 3. He needs to be matched very selectively.

Posted May 6, 2013 6:21 am 


Neil (Pomy)

Povetkin would be a decent match-up … if they can get it made.

Posted May 6, 2013 6:01 am 


Neil (Pomy)

Pulev is a good challenger. I rate him …. Wlad should still be able to handle him, but that is a match worth making. Fury would be an interesting match-up as well.

Posted May 6, 2013 5:57 am 


harry

actually Davey Ga y hasn’t won a round! Vladimir KlichKO OUTLANDED him in every round.

Posted May 6, 2013 5:36 am 


Neil (Pomy)

…. you guys are too worked up over criticism. My main beef is with Bernard Bonte, not the K-brothers themselves.

Posted May 6, 2013 5:35 am 


Neil (Pomy)

lol ….. you guys are funny.

Posted May 6, 2013 5:32 am 


Anonymous

Brits don’t have a clue because they don’t watch Wlad fights. They just show up here seconds after the fight ends with the “Well, that fight sucked, Wlad is killing HW boxing” comment. They are reduced to finding pleasure in doing this because Haye let them down. Well, not really, they feel great about the fact that Haye won 2 rounds against Wlad and feel this earns him another chance to be humiliated.

Posted May 6, 2013 5:18 am 


harry

NOBODY BEFORE EVER WAS AS DOMINANT AS VLADIMIR KLICHKO IN SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION. NOT VITALIY, NOT LEWIS, NOT TYSON.

Posted May 6, 2013 3:45 am 


harry

hey neil! your complaining about Vlads opposition, but let’s take a look at Lenas opposition! Best names!
Holyfield – superheavyweight bum with 10+ losses!
Tyson is a small rusty 5’11 superheavyweight 45-6 who was already done and wasn’t dangerous even for bums like Williams and McBride!
Tua is a one trick pony boxer who never was a champion and got his ass kicked by Byrd and Barrett.
Grant is another never was unskilled tall dude, lost to McCall and lightheavyweight Adamek.
Mercer kicked Lewis ass and beat him up, ex champ, but nothing extraordinary. just a tough bloke.
Golota is a big psycho “never was” just like Grant. he is a punchbag.
Botha is another punchbag with no extraordinary except his coloured beard.
THATS IT NEIL! VLADIMIR KLICHKOS OPPONENTS ARE BETTER OVERALL, BOTH IN TERMS OF QUALITY AND QUANTITY. EX-CHAMPS, UNBEATEN FIGHTERS, ONCE-BEATEN FIGHTERS, VLADIMIR HAS BEATEN A BETTER OPPOSITION THAN WHAT LENA LEWIS HAS. VLADIMIR KLICHKO 60-3, 52 KO’S. LENA LEWIS 39-2. IF YOU DONT SEE WHO HAS A BETTER RECORD THEN YOUR JUST A NAZI TROLL BTCH.

Posted May 6, 2013 3:40 am 


harry

rofl! yeah it’s hard to get under the troll’s skin neil! but I’ll do my best! :)

Posted May 6, 2013 3:11 am 


Neil (Pomy)

“a nazis troll” … lol …..

Posted May 6, 2013 3:05 am 


Neil (Pomy)

lol, if you are trying to get under my skin Harry – you will have to try harder than that.

Posted May 6, 2013 3:01 am 


Tark

And don’t forget the great Herbie Hyde. Actually neither brother has ever lost a fight legitimately. Vitali was injured in both of his losses by the other fighter and that’s just not fair to make a fighter fight. Wlad was poisoned by a mysterious group of people in two of his fights, and the Sanders fiasco didn’t really happen. It was a promotional stunt to draw fans to the sport.

Posted May 6, 2013 2:58 am 


harry

great comment by TARK. hey neil troll. just admit it, your a britard, exLewis fanboy. you hate KlichKOs cause one of them forced Lena to retire like a cowardly btch at the age 37. oh, btw, LENA LEWIS HAS FOUGHT AGAINST WEAKER OPPOSITION THAN WHAT VLADIMIR KLICHKO HAS. IN FACT VLADIMIR KLICHKO PERFORMED 22 MORE SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT FIGHTS! HE ALSO BEAT MORE UNDEFEATED OR ONLY ONCE BEATEN SUPERHEAVYWEIGHTS THAN ANY OTHER BOXER BEFORE! SO NEIL, YOUR JUST A STUPID BRITARD AKA LENA LEWIS JEALOUS FANBOY. YOU ARE A NAZI TROLL IN FACT.

Posted May 6, 2013 2:49 am 


Neil (Pomy)

… and the fact remains that Pianetta shouldnt of been in the same ring as Wladimir.

Posted May 6, 2013 2:22 am 


Neil (Pomy)

Tark, I respect your opinions but you mention Mercer and Rahman who were extremely past it when they fought Wladimir ….. just more over-weight left-over contenders from the decade before. The other guys you mentioned, with the exception of 2 or 3, were a pretty sorry bunch. Wladimir is a quality boxer, I have never argued that, but they have suffered from a poor era in heavyweight boxing ….. some decent opponents but far too many Pianetta and Mormeck types of opponents.

Posted May 6, 2013 2:21 am 


Neil (Pomy)

nameless – Klitckho fans are very touchy, lol …. look how venomous they are, lol.

Posted May 6, 2013 2:16 am 


TARK

@Bfan…. Wladimir beat a number of World Champions and great top contenders… Eddie Chambers was a 35-1 number one contender, and beat undefeated giant Alexander Dimitrenko with ease. David Haye was Heavyweight Champion with only one defeat. Sam Peter was an undefeated top ranked heavyweight. So was Calvin Brock. Jameel McCline was a 6’7” X 260lb top contender coming off a 1st round KO win over Michael Grant. Tony Thompson was a 31-1 big, tall southpaw number 1 contender who carried a wallop. Ruslan Chagaev was an undefeated Heavyweight Champion who could hit. Lamon Brewster and Chris Byrd are 2 more Heavyweight Champions Wladimir stopped. As was Hasim Rahman. Mariusz Wach was 27-0 and a 6’7” X 260lb specimen. Ray Austin was a huge man as well, and easy 2-round KO victim for Wladimir. Austin fought a draw with Sultan Ibragimov—another victim of Wladimir’s who held the Heavyweight Championship. Ray Mercer was another Heavyweight Champion who had never been stopped before Wladimir beat him down.

None of Wladimir’s opponents were’s as bad as Chuck Wepner, Alfredo Evangelista, Jean Pierre Coopman, Richard Dunn, Rudi Lubbers, Jergin Blin, or Brian London.

Posted May 6, 2013 1:43 am 


nameless

Wlad did fk all vs Haye and he and his fans know it. insecurity!

Posted May 6, 2013 1:37 am 


huckster

there you go Neil. Well said, it stunk.

Posted May 6, 2013 1:34 am 


hero toe zero

Brits are arrogant people with a sense of entitlement. They talk up Haye for years about how badly he will beat a Klitschko. So when Haye finally gets a fight with Wlad that he doesn’t deserve and loses it, they think he deserves another one right away without doing anything to earn it. Entitlement.

Posted May 6, 2013 1:25 am 


hero toe zero

Larry Merchant said it best about Haye: All he did was talk about how boring Wlad is but Haye was just as boring during that fight. All mouth, no balls.

Posted May 6, 2013 1:22 am 


hero toe zero

Its to be expected that these angry and frustrated Brits will pop into these threads right after the fight ends, without having watched it, talking how terrible it was and how Wlad is killing HW boxing and how they wish it was 1978 all over again while talking up David freaking Haye. Haye had his chance and did absolutely nothing. He won a couple rounds, whoopee! Choke on your sour grapes.

Posted May 6, 2013 1:21 am 


hero toe zero

I guess its a moral victory for these British losers that Haye won a round or two, flopped all over the ring all night and then made excuses about his toe. Wlad ran all night alright, while winning a relatively one sided decision. Keep smoking whatever it is you’re smoking.

Posted May 6, 2013 1:18 am 


Neil (Pomy)

… and I agree that “record-padding” doesnt make anyone “the greatest”

Posted May 6, 2013 12:55 am 


Neil (Pomy)

Well Wladimir beat Haye (fair and square) but it was clear that both fighters were very nervous about the others power. Both fighters stood off each other …… Wladimir was just taller with longer-arms and thus won a phoney-fight where both men were scared of committing. No one came out of that contest smelling of roses. Both played their part in producing one hell of an anti-climax of a fight.

Posted May 6, 2013 12:51 am 


Bfan

If Haye wasn’t dangerous why did WK run all night? Haye’s strategy did not work but Wk sure looked scared. Actually he always looks scared! I could care less about his record. He has one win and three losses in fights that matter. What do I mean by this. When taken deep he has lost more than he has won. That is what defines great fighters not record padding wins over bums.

Posted May 6, 2013 12:37 am 


harry

now it’s up to povetkin to win his fight and make the KlichKO fight happen. Olympic football stadium in Moscow will be absolutely packed with about 80.000 people! BRING IT ON! Btw. Tyson “punk” fury plans to avoid pulev! they say it’s not a “money fight” for them! although it’s clear, this is a fight for the opportunity to become a mandatory contender for the legendary champion Vladimir KlichKO! I have always said fury will avoid Pulev at all costs! he will find another small and old heavyweight instead of big and skilled fighter like pulev.

Posted May 5, 2013 11:55 pm 


harry

ALI IN SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT FIGHTS HAS THE LAUGHABLE RECORD 28-4, 8 KO’S! he is a bum according to modern standards.

Posted May 5, 2013 11:28 pm 


Miatestomper

The Klitschko brother are the best Heavyweight Champs of all time no American Heavyweight of any ERA would beat them and that includes little ALI

Posted May 5, 2013 11:03 pm 


BEARS

english is actually a germanic language

Posted May 5, 2013 10:48 pm 


Anonymous

Povetkin is next, you idiots.

Posted May 5, 2013 10:40 pm 


rod

FIGHT JAMES TONEY OR HARRISON NEXT. SHOW THE WORLD HOW GREAT YOU ARE. HITTING AND NOT GETTING HIT BY FACING JAMES TONEY. HE IS THE PERFECT SIZE AS WELL

Posted May 5, 2013 10:32 pm 


Spin The Kinks

This is a very hard day for England and America, as is the day after every Klitschko fight.

Posted May 5, 2013 9:40 pm 


harry

60-3, 52 KO’S! THIS IS THE RECORD OF THE BEST SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT OF ALL TIME, VLADIMIR KLICHKO. THE LIVING LEGEND OF BOXING.

Posted May 5, 2013 9:18 pm 


Killing Moon

Discovered by Vikings …They called it Vineland….America rewrote the History once again..Columbus Day? LMAO..To their own fairytale likings …Fact of the matter is the poor and criminels from all over Europe travelled to America in search of a better life…Unlike Australia where prisoners where deported by the British Empire…Most European Countries paid the ticket for those unwanted personalities who travelled to the land of BS…It’s no wonder both countries tried to kill the natives who lived there…Did I say kill more like annihilated….And don’t get me started on how the africans ended up there…Maybe we Europeans are to blame for the crimes of America….But our prisons where filled and the morons ran free…In retrospect we should have shot them all.

Posted May 5, 2013 9:07 pm 


TARK

AMERICA… CHILD OF THE BRITS writes…

“A; Modern Boxing- Invented in Britain (London Prize Rules, Marquis of Queensbury)
B; The Computer – Invented in Britain (Charles Babbage)
C; The World Wide Web – Invented in Britain (Tim Berners Lee)
D; The English Language – Invented by errm the English
E;]America – Invented, settled, colonised and created by Brits!”

You’re fogettng one thing.

British Army and Navy — Got their asses kicked by a rag-tag group of American farmers, smiths, cobblers, tailors, hunters, and sailors — who chased those hardened professional British soldiers and seamen back to England to their everlasting shame … George Washington sure kicked ass on General Cornwallis and the rest of those Brits.

Posted May 5, 2013 8:55 pm 


K-2- Fan

Gee , I didn’t know America was INVENTED ?! Wow , whaddaya know ! I
know you guys ” invented ” the great ” champion ” , Haye , but inventing America , that’s big !

Posted May 5, 2013 8:44 pm 


K-2- Fan

Thank you Matthews , that is EXACTLY the point . But if you have nothing else , like the troll that started this whole pointless discussion , you grab at straws and make a complete fool of yourself !

Posted May 5, 2013 8:33 pm 


KL

B Fan, Wach didn’t really have Wlad “almost down”, Wach connected with a punch and it did surprise Wlad that Wach actually landed a punch……but no it didn’t have any impact on Wlad, I know there wa a lot of press exaggeration about that Wach punch……but if you watch the fight you will be asking yourself “Is that it!!……the so called punch that had Wlad reeling!”.

Posted May 5, 2013 8:27 pm 


Spin The Kinks

Brits ruin yet another discussion with their anger and jealousy.

Posted May 5, 2013 8:27 pm 


TARK

The last “Tark” to make a commnet is a troll.

Posted May 5, 2013 7:31 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Another highlight reel KO by the cyborg wrecking machine known as Dr. Steel Hammer. This guy makes Lewis, Ali, Foreman, Frazier and Tyson look soft, fat and out of shape. That dude are his brother are two scary, bad brutally violent mofos.

Posted May 5, 2013 7:02 pm 


matthews

Hmm. The question is would the Sanders of 10 years ago be able to touch the Wlad of today. I dont think he would.

Posted May 5, 2013 6:47 pm 


Spin The Kinks

England was up and at em early this morning trolling the Klit threads and it hasn’t stopped. Some even demanding that Wlad face Haye again because Haye getting outclassed by Wlad once isn’t enough embarrassment for their already dying country.

Posted May 5, 2013 6:46 pm 


Fish Eyes

K-2- Fan I understand that you are a rabid fanboy..

Posted May 5, 2013 6:24 pm 


K-2- Fan

Fish Eyed Troll ; you DO understand that my reference to you and a Rhodes scholar was purely as a comic relief , don’t you ? Maybe they don’t have them
in ” the UK ” ?! That would explain a lot .

Posted May 5, 2013 6:21 pm 


Fish Eyes

Funny how The poster known as “6 feet under” can make the comment “Where is Sanders now?” Yet all the K Bros fans are moaning at me, for pointing out the fact that Sanders beat Wlad up.. True class…

Posted May 5, 2013 6:19 pm 


Fish Eyes

Or should I say, “Nice logic Fantards,” lol

Posted May 5, 2013 6:14 pm 


Fish Eyes

As usual. Any criticism of Wlad, even when you agree that he is a great fighter, results in being called a hater, Yank, or Brittard.. Nice logic guys, lol.

Posted May 5, 2013 6:13 pm 


Fish Eyes

UD “Being a brit explains why you a trolling all this nonsens about Wlad.Same as with some few americans you cant stand the Klitschko´s greatnes because they have the wrong nationality.” .. I never “Trolled” anything.. I agreed with havick when he said Wlad is the best heavyweight in the world right now.. All I did was point out he got his ass kicked by Sanders..

Posted May 5, 2013 6:09 pm 


UD

fishy i wrote ”colour/nationality” that means or/and.
Being a brit explains why you a trolling all this nonsens about Wlad.
Same as with some few americans you cant stand the Klitschko´s greatnes because they have the wrong nationality.

Posted May 5, 2013 6:00 pm 


Fish Eyes

6 feet under..”Where is Sanders now?” .. Do you feel good about being the biggest tosser on ESB?

Posted May 5, 2013 5:59 pm 


6 feet under

Where is Sanders now?

Posted May 5, 2013 5:53 pm 


Fish Eyes

K-2- Fan

” Corrie Sanders beat the crap out of Wlad ” several years ago ” ….. Oh really , I tought it was more like a decade.” Yup.. What part of me saying “Sanders died last year, a decade after beating the crap out of Wlad..” Do you not understand? You dumb ass fantard…

Posted May 5, 2013 5:53 pm 


K-2- Fan

” Corrie Sanders beat the crap out of Wlad ” several years ago ” ….. Oh really , I tought it was more like a decade ( that’s about ten years to you ) ago . So what’s your point ? Even a narrow minded , fact twisting fish eyed
troll such as you should admit that , that Wlad was a work in progress and has
as much in common with TODAY’S Wlad , as you have with a Rhodes
scholar ! But , maybe I’m giving you too much credit .

Posted May 5, 2013 5:48 pm 


Fish Eyes

UD “Fishy said, Blah, blah, blah, maybe Floyd has the right colour/nationality ?”

I am a white guy from the UK, so I doubt that, maybe you are jumping the gun without a leg to stand on, eh?

Posted May 5, 2013 5:43 pm 


UD

Fishy said ”But he DID get his ass kicked several years ago, by Sanders.. Not hate, just facts.. Fanboys need to realize this..”
No one is not denying that, its just stupid to bring a loss up so many years ago. So stop wasting us boxing fans on nonsens like this. We have seen it too many times before, go spend time on articles about Mayweather, and complain about handpicked opponents and a dull fight with little excitement and no brutal ko. No ? maybe Floyd has the right colour/nationality ?

Posted May 5, 2013 5:38 pm 


Fish Eyes

Duran .”Whats your fundamental point?” .. My “fundamental point” is when K-2- Fan said “The simple truth is ; Wlad looks superior, to ANY of his opponents , because he IS superior!” He was talking crap, because Sanders HAMMERED him.. I never mentioned “frazier, joe louis, cassius clay, tyson, foreman, lennox lewis”, I mentioned Sanders .. Hope that clears things up..

Posted May 5, 2013 5:24 pm 


Fish Eyes

havick..”Haters got to hate. Whether you like Wlad or not, he’s the best heavyweight in the world right now, with the possible exception of his big brother. There’s no one else even close. We can talk about how he got his ass kicked several years ago (which he most certainly did), but that was then and this is now. Right NOW there’s no one comparable.” True, But he DID get his ass kicked several years ago, by Sanders.. Not hate, just facts.. Fanboys need to realize this..

Posted May 5, 2013 5:01 pm 


havick

Haters got to hate. Whether you like Wlad or not, he’s the best heavyweight in the world right now, with the possible exception of his big brother. There’s no one else even close. We can talk about how he got his ass kicked several years ago (which he most certainly did), but that was then and this is now. Right NOW there’s no one comparable.

Posted May 5, 2013 4:53 pm 


Fish Eyes

Did Wlad look “Better” than Sanders when he fought him?.. PLZ answer the question..

Posted May 5, 2013 4:28 pm 


Fish Eyes

KL.. Bottom line.. Did Wlad look “Better” than Sanders when he fought him?.. PLZ answer the question..

Posted May 5, 2013 4:25 pm 


Fish Eyes

KL.. “My guess is you didn’t know Sanders had died or otherwise forgot……..but don;t want to admit to it.”… He died last year, a decade after beating the crap out of Wlad.. My guess is you forgot he beat the crap out of Wlad.. but “don;t “want to admit to it…

Posted May 5, 2013 4:19 pm 


KL

Hmm, your initial comment about Corrie Sanders calling people out was the stupid one……. it’s no different from saying Sonny Liston is calling someone out……..even though he is dead.
My guess is you didn’t know Sanders had died or otherwise forgot……..but don;t want to admit to it.

Posted May 5, 2013 4:04 pm 


Fish Eyes

How stupid are you? Lol.

Posted May 5, 2013 3:55 pm 


Fish Eyes

“So you are saying “Corrie Sanders” is calling from the grave?” .. No, I am saying Corrie Sanders beat Wlad up..

Posted May 5, 2013 3:54 pm 


KL

So you are saying “Corrie Sanders” is calling from the grave???

Posted May 5, 2013 3:52 pm 


Fish Eyes

KL..”Fish Eyes…….you do know that Sanders is dead don’t you?” … Yes I do, what does that have to do with the fact that Corrie Sanders beat the crap out of Wlad? And that K-2- Fan said that “The simple truth is ; Wlad looks superior to ANY of his opponents , because he IS superior!”

Posted May 5, 2013 3:33 pm 


ZZT

@ tommy boy , who the f is fres oquendo? Fres can beat Wlad? what are you on?

Posted May 5, 2013 3:17 pm 


KL

Fish Eyes…….you do know that Sanders is dead don’t you?

Posted May 5, 2013 3:05 pm 


KL

f…… Wlad would definitely beat Boystov,Fury Scott, Jennings and most probably Povetkin. Give Wilder 2 or 3 fights with top opponents before putting him with Wlad……..If Wilder dispatches top contenders with the same ease as his other 28 opponents then a fight against Wlad could actually be that a fight.
Wilder has been criticized for his lack of defense, but if he can work to correct this……. then his power and speed could well take him to the top .
Not forgetting Price who is technically sounder than Wilder……but perhaps lacks Wilder’s speed.

Posted May 5, 2013 2:48 pm 


matthews

So you bribe the sanctioning bodies to put scrubs as mandatories.

Posted May 5, 2013 2:18 pm 


K-2- Fan

Tark ; your comments are direct , best overall , most technically analytical .

Posted May 5, 2013 2:08 pm 


nameless

Bribes. Simple as that

Posted May 5, 2013 2:08 pm 


matthews

Yeah you can cherry pick voluntary defenses, but how do you cherry pick mandatory defenses.

Posted May 5, 2013 2:06 pm 


K-2- Fan

Mathews ; your comments are the wittiest !

Posted May 5, 2013 2:05 pm 


K-2- Fan

Jabs ; Yours , is the most intelligent , realistically objective comment on these threads ! I salute you .

Posted May 5, 2013 2:03 pm 


f

fight povetkin boytsov fury wilder scott jennings kauffman

Posted May 5, 2013 1:53 pm 


qau

They (you know who) say the HW division is “awful”. I guess it’s going to be “awful” until Ks retire. Then, suddenly, the HW division will again become “great”, like in 60-70s.

Posted May 5, 2013 1:53 pm 


nameless

wlad admits he cherypicks people and is not a fighting champion but a cherry picking nob

Posted May 5, 2013 1:43 pm 


nameless

didnt watch – didnt miss out

Posted May 5, 2013 1:41 pm 


K-2- Fan

Have they opened the doors of the mental institutions world wide ? If you read some of the insane remarks on these threads , it would certainly seem so .
Boytsov a ” great opponent ” , Wlad ” ducking ” Fres Oquendo , Foreman was a ” monster ” , but Wlad , ( bigger , faster , heavier and stronger ; is just a ” good technical boxer with a jab “, etc, etc., ….. Jesus H. Christ ! Where are these nuts coming from ??? HELP !

Posted May 5, 2013 1:06 pm 


matthews

Its up to the other guy to not make it routine. If he can’t then that’s on him.

Posted May 5, 2013 12:52 pm 


KL

I guess it depends Mathews whether you want to see a routine execution in the ring…….or do you want to see a fight?

Posted May 5, 2013 12:33 pm 


matthews

Winning is all that matters. Why give the other guy hope? Dominate him and knock him out and make him cry.

Posted May 5, 2013 12:14 pm 


KL

There is no question that Wlad is a fantastically effective champion, is he an exciting fighter to watch, no.
Sure some would argue that over 50KOs means that he is an exciting fighter…….but I would argue that it is the manner of how these KOs come about which determine excitement.
Last night’s fight was a prime example, even when Wlad had Pieneta badly hurt Wlad would still not go in for the kill…….amounting to a chorus of boos even from the German audience.
Wlad will be remember for a great boxing record……but not as a great fighter, ask the current crop of boxers who they want to emulate, and they will tell you Ali, Louis,Tyson, Holyfield……. in 20 years time I doubt too many boxers would say they want to emulate Wlad.

Posted May 5, 2013 12:11 pm 


Tark

Abdusalamov would have no chance at all against the great Wlad. He has no defense and my hero would make quick work of him.

Posted May 5, 2013 12:03 pm 


Tommy Boy

I will say one thing, the only thing that he said that is true. Hitting without getting hit is a craft and talent. Agreed. However to do it against inexperienced, no talent, babe in the woods is not challenging. Vladimyr ADMITS that Pianetta was inexperienced AFTER the fight so if that is the case then WHY did he choose him. He is arrogant, has no heart and is someone who does not garner my respect. As I said Pianetta could not stop Robert Hawkins but Fres stopped him with a broken hand. He was never a challenge. Vlad is all about gaining numbers, whether it is $$$, defenses, wins etc…
He has been KO 3 times by average fighters. He fights smart, he fights safe however IMO he has not stepped up to fight a guy like Fres Oquendo. There is NO QUESTION that Vlad is DUCKING Fres because Fres can make him look average, unimpressive and even be beaten. Another nobody with no solid experience to claim a W. Paper Champion.

Posted May 5, 2013 11:44 am 


KL

Lenin you also think Boystov would be an interesting opponent……but again have you seen Boystov’s last few fights???
Boystov may have been a touted prospect a few years ago, but now he is just fading into obscurity…….. had he taken the fight with Fury things might have been different but Boystov has faded out of the contendor mix faster than Helenius!!

Posted May 5, 2013 11:16 am 


KL

Lenin you say “Abdusalamov would also be an interesting opponent”…….have you seen him box????
He wouldn’t get close to Wlad and be jabbed all night long……boring fight!

Posted May 5, 2013 11:08 am 


Puncher007

Look here ding dongs, the Kbros are the most dominant in history!! Just watched Mayweather last night and there is great similarities!!! Some people say he’s boring too!!! But he’s smart also!!! If you got the skill why not make it one sided???? You freaking idiots!!!!

Posted May 5, 2013 10:59 am 


KL

AssyrianGod2 I know your a big fan of Fury but I had to laugh when you said that Fury had the tools to beat Wlad!!!!

Posted May 5, 2013 10:59 am 


rod

Wlad forget pulev in 2013 fight James Toney or Fraudley Harrison they are right up their with Pianeta.

Posted May 5, 2013 10:52 am 


rod

Wlad has had 60 fights and has only fought 1 man taller than himself who made moved as fast as a greek statue and whose claim to fame was beating Tye Fields. Wlad is great but need to be challenged. He will prove nothing fighting guys like Pianeta and Mormeck.

Posted May 5, 2013 10:49 am 


prince

ruskull, are all roughly the same size! Check your facts man! All these guys are significantly smaller than Klitschko! But as a fanboy, you are of course blind to that.

Posted May 5, 2013 10:45 am 


Ruskull

Oh, and Prince: You have no idea what you’re talking about if you think Wlad only wins because of his size. Austin, McCline, Thompson, Wach & Pianeta, etc. are all roughly the same size as Wlad but they were still dominated.

Posted May 5, 2013 10:41 am 


prince

sorry, I wanted to say “Pianeta gave it all, too bad he never had anything to begin with”

Posted May 5, 2013 10:26 am 


prince

k2fan, I think you are the one who is the mental midget. You say Pianate it all, too bad that he never had anything, to begin with. also you say that Haye does not deserve another shot, but old man Tony Thompson does? Clearly, you have no clue about boxing and are just a blind Klitscko lover and buy in all the bs they are doing. So, get a clue first.

Posted May 5, 2013 10:24 am 


huckster

wlad-pulev 2013!

Posted May 5, 2013 10:22 am 


prince

ferocious rabbit, spot on! I have been saying this for years. They only win due to their size not due to their skills!

Posted May 5, 2013 10:21 am 


Ferocious rabbit

Wlad lazy 1,2 punching was terrible to watch. sticking out his left jab to measure and then throwing his right cross was far from being the best hw boxing in the era. His size wins and not his boxing.

Posted May 5, 2013 9:27 am 


K-2- Fan

Look at who is complaining about Wlad’s pedrformance and the ” poor quality ”
of his opponents . The same bunch of mental midgets who while belitteling
Pianeta , are raving about the ” great Toe Fairy ” ! How stupid do you have to be ! As I recall , the so called ” fight ” with Hayes , was just a disgrace , a
pathetic non – event where Hayes , kept running , flopping and falling down for
ALL 12 rounds ! At least Pianeta came to fight , gave it his best and has nothing to feel embarrassed about . Why on earth would ANYBODY want
to see ANOTHER episode of Hayes pissing his pants , the moment he gets in the ring with Wlad ?! Now , all the ” hopers ” ( the ones who hope for Wlad
to loose ) , are waiting for Povetkin to beat Wlad . Well , here is a flash boys ,
after the fight , you will be the first to say Povetkin is a bum and that Wlad
should fight somebody better . The simple truth is ; Wlad looks superior ,
to ANY of his opponents , because he IS superior !

Posted May 5, 2013 9:24 am 


Exiled Yank

Who is out there that can challenge these guys? The HW division is awful. I take nothing from WK, he’s fighting who he can, but there is just no one out there. He’s going to break Louis’ record at this point. Granted. JL had the bum of the month, so his competition wasn’t always great either.

Posted May 5, 2013 9:01 am 


admitted sex addict

Look the old fighter had great fights. Todays lighter classes have great fights. Two equal sized guys are always interesting and action packed . Wladimar is a skilled, gifted athelete and smart and just too good and makes all look like he took on an poor opponent. Those guys look good boxing each other and only look hopeless against wlad (case in point haye,brock,byrd etc0. BUT they look good and tough against each other. Any heavy can go down and wlad did early in career when he was taking chances but was a great fighter even then. He could have quit forever or been a cooney,bobick and another great white hope, but he changed in the peters 2nd fight and realized what he had to do. Hes kept the title so long and he has beaten everyone. The combined record of all he has faced is easily the best of any era. Cry,beg,criticise him, hes simply the best there is now.

Posted May 5, 2013 8:20 am 


dcr

Yet another pointless ‘fight’ (If you can call it that). No wonder people are switching off from boxing with mismatches like these.

Posted May 5, 2013 8:04 am 


Gwent

And that’s the best reason to rebuild the Berlin Wall

Posted May 5, 2013 7:17 am 


hero toe zero

Haye is garbage and no one outside of England wants to see that homo get another pay day. He had one chance and was outclassed. Deal with it. Povetkin-Wlad is the best fight that can be made at HW. Let Haye fight Vitali’s leftovers for the rest of his pathetic career.

Posted May 5, 2013 7:15 am 


Rumm

Neil please move on to watching the dog races or some such nonsense. This is a boxing site not a whine your heart out vestibule for moaners and or bitter fans of losers and wannabe’s. You need to understand that not everybody is cut out to be a boxing fan, you being a case in point. Now go dry your eyes and get a grip.

Posted May 5, 2013 7:14 am 


Gwent

Fat-fingers sorry…..you get the gist lol

Posted May 5, 2013 7:11 am 


Neil (Pomy)

In America or the UK, this sort of consistently poor match-making would be heavily criticised.

Posted May 5, 2013 7:03 am 


Neil (Pomy)

Why do people enjoy watching a glorified sparring session against an opponent who, due to his lack of quality, has zero chance of winning? The quality of match-making in Germany is beyond pathetic. The Mayweather fight may have been one-sided but at least it was against a good opponent ….. and wasnt some hand-picked opponent who is a million miles from world level.

Posted May 5, 2013 7:01 am 


Reem

If Ali and Frazier fought in this era, they would be on the level of Gatti and Ward type of fighters. Very entertaining because of all their faults and bad defence, but cleary not the best fighters.

Posted May 5, 2013 6:58 am 


hero toe zero

yes, england is up and at em this morning and spewing the bs hard and heavy. very predictable. last i checked wlad already fought haye and completely outclassed him. why does haye deserve another fight and payday? just because he is from the same little place you are and you dont follow boxing unless a brit is fighting? fk off toe fairy fans.

Posted May 5, 2013 6:57 am 


nemo1

ups, my fault: only 9 fights left.

Posted May 5, 2013 6:55 am 


nemo

@Gwent: Haye has 10 toes. This means we have at least 10 possible runaway fights to watch. Better let Haye fight somebody in the lower Top10, so he gets his toes stabilized.

Posted May 5, 2013 6:50 am 


Jabs

Norton, Frazier, Ali and the others of that era cannot be counted as being in the elite of today’s heavyweight scene should it be possible to transport them to our time. The “great” Ali would be merely another heavyweight among many however a belt would elude him just like the others of that period. The K-brothers are beyond anything these boxers of the past have ever encountered. In Mannheim, Germany Wladimir was able once again to make an opponent look ill-equipped simply by doing what he does best, boxing at the heavyweight level. To disparage Pianeta’s effort by calling him a “sparring partner” is a cheap shot typical of journalism with an agenda. Wilder is also a sparring partner let us wait and see if he is dealt with in the same demeaning manner as Pianeta when it is his turn to go down at the hands of WK. The bottom line is WK once again made it look easy by being so exceptionally good.

Posted May 5, 2013 6:21 am 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Congratulations to heavyweight champion of the world Wladimir Klitschko (60-3-0 KO’s 51) for his dominant victory against Francesko Pianeta (28-1-1 KO’s 15). Klitschko made his 14th world heavyweight title defence in a row in his 23rd world title career fight. With other words Wladimir Klitschko is an amazing champion and athlete and made Pianeta look easy like an rookie in the ring and just dominated him with power and ease. Okey so Wladimir had an easy top fight, mabey a bit and there are some better opponents out there BUT fighters like Alexander Povetkin, Tyson Fury, Chris Arreola, Tomaz Adamek, Odlianer Solis etc are running away from him so how many top opponents are there to pick of whats left? Annyway Pianete was just ment as an “keep buissy” opponent and he is a top ranked heavyweight contender (7# by WBO and 12# by WBA) who have defeated some top names in heavyweight like former world heavyweight champion Oliver McCal and world title challangers Frans Botha, Albert Sosnowski and Matt Skelton and more so he had some expearence to be up there but then again obviusly not enough to win. I say it was well enough and I wish Wladimir Klitschko will stay on top for a long time and get nthe fight against Alexander Povetkin.

Posted May 5, 2013 6:00 am 


You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.

contender may want to take a peek at how many fans were in that stadium yesterday. packed to the rafters. killing HW boxing? ticket buyers disagree with you. klitschko fights are happenings in parts of europe. they are huge. they may have killed US HW boxing but not really. US HW simply didnt want it bad enough and couldnt keep up. In keeping with their sense of entitlement ameicans blame others and take no blame themselves. Keep crying.

Posted May 5, 2013 5:07 am 


You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.

Love him or hate him he keeps on a winning

Posted May 5, 2013 5:05 am 


SeanieP

there is not one HW who can beat the klits, please wake up and face reality, these guys will retire when they want to from here on in they will not be beaten,haye is to small, fury would not last 5 rounds against the pair of them, Stiverne and Wilder don’t have the nous to beat them, they have cleaned up the division, and as for fat boy arreola forgetaboutit.

Posted May 5, 2013 5:04 am 


Boomboomboy

Anonymous well seeing how it’s a mythical fight due to fighters being from different era’s what do you expect??? People will always compare the current crop with the past they can never meet due to the fact they were in their primes in different decades so what’s your argument? Mormeck Piantenta etc are club fighters no more any heavy champ inc your Berbicks and weaker champs would destroy bums like that

Posted May 5, 2013 4:59 am 


curtley

Part of the issue when talking about the bros is in reality in comparison to the greats like Ali they are a completely different weight class, I agree that Wlad would have given Ali fits due to his ability but mainly due to his size P4P if they were the same size however Ali and a fair few others would have beaten him comfortably Ali was so much faster and skilled than the brothers and in Wlads case so much tougher, don’t get me wrong they are superb and saying they are not the best is not hating, I feel the same way about Mayweather against Leonard, Duran and Hearns.

Posted May 5, 2013 4:56 am 


england is dead

good morning england! america is still asleep so look for lots and lots of bitter brits to come in here over the next few hours posting their typical whining after every klitschko fight.

Posted May 5, 2013 4:55 am 


Anonymous

yes, lets all live in the past and cry that it is no longer 1975 while sucking off old timers while trashing the current fighters. that wouldnt be cliche at all would it? zzzzz.

Posted May 5, 2013 4:53 am 


Anonymous

“A Prime 80s Tyson would…blah blah blah”

its all about woulda coulda shoulda with these haters.

Posted May 5, 2013 4:52 am 


Boomboomboy

Some of the comments on here in regards to past heavyweights and the lack of respect shown…Wow

Posted May 5, 2013 4:51 am 


england is dead

boring my ass. obviously this jerkoff didnt watch the fight. one more whiny brit and the cliche response after every single klitschko fight. this board can do without your predictable whining after each and every klit fight. who wants to bet this moron creams his jeans after “toe fairy’ haye fights and beats one of vitalis leftovers? zzzzz.

Posted May 5, 2013 4:50 am 


Boomboomboy

How do the Klitschkos get these bums sanctioned?? A Prime 80s Tyson would have beat Wlad in the first round. His head movement his speed and power would have been too much for him and I think he’d have intimidated Wlad and made him fight scared.
That said I think Vitali would be a different animal and would give any heavyweight of any era problems.
I really like both Klitschko brothers but although the division is pretty weak there is much better tests than they choose to fight each time

Posted May 5, 2013 4:49 am 


his career was done by 23

tyson = overrated.

Posted May 5, 2013 4:48 am 


Neil (Pomy)

Another very boring fight against a poor opponent. Very poor match-making once again. I dont know why German fans stand for it ….. in other countries they’d be outrage over such consistent, sub-standard, hand-picked challengers.

Posted May 5, 2013 4:48 am 


curtley

I love the way people say Wlad would have been too much for any HW in history, he wasn’t too much for Sanders, Brewster or Purity and nearly got KO’ed by a heavy handed but slow and pretty basic Peter.

Posted May 5, 2013 4:46 am 


Monty

The heavyweight heroes of the past would be at a loss to find their way today in the heavyweight boxing world of the present. In the present heavyweight boxing world the name Klistschko would put an end to the aspirations of the likes of Ali, Frazier or Norton. The 70’s were giddy times in the box arena but things do change, with the Klitschko brothers we have a new dimension in heavyweight boxing something the boxers of the past could not successfully contend with. Modern heavyweights are bigger, faster and better trained and maintained than the fighters of 50 years ago. Boxing has moved on not so the minds of many boxing devotees who have difficulty separating desire from reality when they make their deluded claim that heavyweight boxing of the past was so much richer and the talent thicker than what is currently in contention. In particular the Ali fable is so bloated with myth and make-believe as to be taken seriously. Calling yourself “The Greatest” does not mean it was so. One look at the ex-boxer today reveals much about his defensive skills and his offensive talents left room for improvement as well. The Ali-legend is as phoney as a three dollar bill yet the masses including boxing fans are mostly deceived in to believing.

Posted May 5, 2013 4:08 am 


jabb

hope that Deontay Wilder bum is next

Posted May 5, 2013 4:03 am 


harry

huh peak tyson? his peak time lasted for how many fights??? 3??? 4??? Vladimir KlichKOs peak is going for 20+ fights or 10 years!!! TYSON IS 45-6 IN SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT FIGHTS. IN FACT, 60-3, 52 KO’S, VLADIMIR KLICHKO IS A BETTER KNOCKOUT MASTER THAN TYSON.

Posted May 5, 2013 3:56 am 


Beradog123

Where do they find these opponents? I could find 10 guys in my local town who would do better than this bloke.. The last time Wlad had serious competition he lost and that’s a fact not speculation. Until the standard of opposition improves so we can see if Wlad has improved then its all a waste of time.

Posted May 5, 2013 3:53 am 


choky

wk really need to take better challengers – his wins over piantetta / wlach and mormeck dont mean a lot – he should,fight now pulev or Wilder (guy untested but at least he has the power to ko anybody) or even rematch haye – am sure that a second fight with haye could be good as this time dont think haye could afford to run again and he also has the power to ko wk even if wk should win
start to be bit fed up of these fights where not only everybody knows that wk will win easily but also his opponents dont have the power to hurt him – would like to see him at least agnst guys who would have power to hurt him so that at least we know that other guy has a slight chance

Posted May 5, 2013 3:48 am 


Mannheimer

Wlad makes it look easy. Don’t be fooled folks it is not as easy as it looks but WK has the ability to make it appear thus. It would seem Wladimir will be around for some time to come.

Posted May 5, 2013 3:37 am 


Killing Moon

Everytime I see a Wlad fight with English or American commentators they never talk about what is going on in the fight ….It’s always about boring, +8 years ago or something that has nothing to do with what they’re watching…They’re doing it toned down with no enthusiasm when he KO’s people…”And there we have it another win for Klitschko”….. Sure enough this pattern repeated itself last night…Despite this being a fast paced contest with a lot of action, beautiful boxing by Wlad and an All in attitude by Pianeta…..Talk about Sour Grapes….

Posted May 5, 2013 2:48 am 


Anonymous

povetkin? the guy that has run for years?

Posted May 5, 2013 2:44 am 


Anonymous

call them sisters to their face you scrawny piece of garbage and see what happens.

Posted May 5, 2013 2:44 am 


ray fritz

What a unbelievable ko %,50 out of 53 ha ha,the Klit bros. have surpassed the Spinky boys , now to pass the world ,ha ha ha hee ha!!!!

Posted May 5, 2013 2:38 am 


the voice of reason

holy cow – what power this man has. Those punches would have knocked an elephant out. Wlad may well be the hardest hitting heavyweight of all time. He toyed with this huge opponent like he was a baby. i cant see anybody ever beating this man again, hes got everything going on. Incredible performance

Posted May 5, 2013 2:35 am 


Senthil “The Crouching Tiger” Arjunan

The day has come, Povetkin will KTFO Klit sisters, and Canelo will kick May vazer ass…

Posted May 5, 2013 2:29 am 


BRICK CTIY

He might be a great heavyweight in his country but not in america.

Posted May 5, 2013 1:39 am 


harry

hah another boring display from mayvazer! just what I expected! no knockdowns no power no excitement. hit and run tactic. I’M HAPPY THAT I DIDN’T SPEND A CENT FOR WATCHING BORING FLOYDIE GO JUST ANOTHER 12 ROUNDER AGAINST ANOTHER GUY WHO DON’T KNOW HOW TO TRAIN PROPERLY! I SAW IT FOR FREE!!! HAHAHA! LIFE’S GOOD!!!

Posted May 5, 2013 1:05 am 


Anonymous

clit has the beat.

Posted May 5, 2013 12:40 am 


harry

having a good time watching a boring mayvazer fight for free.

Posted May 4, 2013 11:57 pm 


harry

PULEV – FURY IS ORDERED BY IBF FOR THE MANDATORY CONTENDER STATUS. THE WINNER FIGHTS THE BEST SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT OF ALL TIME VLADIMIR KLICHKO.

Posted May 4, 2013 11:51 pm 


rod

Pianeta should have faced someone. Mago, Wilder, Thompson, Perez, Helenius, someone before facing wlad. Oh well it is what is is. Shameful yes but still showed his skills and ability even if it was against a nobody.

Posted May 4, 2013 11:48 pm 


clitoris

Americans say heavyweights don’t matter anymore, but its only in America because it cant produce a contender. Did you see the amazing show and how they love their all time great wladimar? Heavyweight boxing outside America is thriving better than ever.

Posted May 4, 2013 11:48 pm 


rod

I will be happy with Wlad fighting the winner of Fury vs Pulev. Povetkin is difficult but does not have the style to beat Wlad. Should still be a good fight. The division is not weak. There are plenty of good fighter who refuse to face other good fighters then they get smashed by Wlad.

Posted May 4, 2013 11:45 pm 


MAGOMED ABDUSALAMOV

what a shameful display

Posted May 4, 2013 11:45 pm 


Adrian

How long this “weak” era is going to last? Until klitchko retire from boxing? Yeah that could be it because I am sure klitchko haters will suddenly see talents appearing in the haveyweight scene and say ” if only klitchko were around now to wipe them out because they were champions in a “weak ” era”…

Posted May 4, 2013 11:33 pm 


rod

It was a public sparring session……….nothing more. Saying that I do like wlads style. People say it’s boring but it is a very smart way to fight. No one can get to him. He is a super athletic with super skills, I just don’t like it when he faces guys like pianeta or mormeck.

Posted May 4, 2013 11:28 pm 


f

after all this time finally people see ali was not greatest wladimir klitschko can be if he retires without losing again

Posted May 4, 2013 11:27 pm 


harry

THE BEST SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT EVER VLADIMIR KLICHKO 60-3, 52 KO’S. LENA LEWIS SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT RECORD IS 39-2. VLAD IS THE BEST EVER AT 37. AT THE SAME 37 LENA LEWIS RETIRED LIKE A COWARDLY BTCH.

Posted May 4, 2013 11:22 pm 


TARK

Sorby writes…, “The fight resembled a sparring session rather than an actual fight.”… Actually it looked like a fight, but a badly mismatched fight. Pianeta threw some big wild punches in an effort to get lucky. You don’t see that in sparring. Another thing you don’t see in sparring, Wladimir often stuck his left glove into Pianeta’s guard (illegal) and kept it out there trying to lever enough room to zip through a KO right. Pianeta landed a wild and hard desperation left in the 4th that had no effect. He landed a few other wild shots looking to break some glass, but his punches all had zero effect.

Lou Dibella kept up a steady drumbeat of negativity about Pianeta countered somewhat by Jameel McCine. When Dibella also disparaged the coming Wladimir-Povetkin fight McCline immediately contradicted him, said he sparred with both fighters, and both were fast, strong, and tough and said the fight would be very interesting. Dibella said, “I disagree” and trashed the fight some more. Everyone agreed on was the fact Wladimir is one of the greatest Heavyweight Champions of all time—and has eclipsed everyone but Larry Holmes and Joe Louis in victorious Heavyweight Championship Fights.

I find it interesting that nobody mentioned Tyson Fury or Kubrat Pulev, the two guys who would give Wladimir the most competitive Title Fights right now. Alexander Povetkin is not a competitive opponent. There should be a way to arrive at the most interesting and competitive fights.

Posted May 4, 2013 11:16 pm 


badger

Well I did not get this fight, but on the other hand there are several good fights out there for Wlad. Pulev among others. I saw this fight on a site. Wlad looked sharp.

Posted May 4, 2013 11:06 pm 


Gus

This is funny…Calm down guys…It’s a Saturday night and we are all arguing in a boxing chat room..Then again who am I to talk I hate people anyway hahahaha

Posted May 4, 2013 11:02 pm 


Gutless Coward With No Screen Name

Does it say “It’s Me, Ernie” on your drivers license? Then you, too, are a coward.

Posted May 4, 2013 10:58 pm 


Gus

Lot of loud mouth tough guys on chats..Remember the Jack the Cutman jack ass who always talked like an Internet gangster?The guy who knew everyone but nobody knew him..The ball cancer comment was mean but very funny at the same time…

Posted May 4, 2013 10:56 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Hopefully I don’t give it to your ol lady when they’re bouncing off of her chin…

Posted May 4, 2013 10:53 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Another gutless coward with no screen name…

Posted May 4, 2013 10:50 pm 


Anonymous

*ernie

Posted May 4, 2013 10:41 pm 


Anonymous

pianeta beat ball cancer. hopefully ernine gets ball cancer and it beats him.

Posted May 4, 2013 10:41 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Tyson said that and Klit quoted him…

Posted May 4, 2013 10:39 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Wow, I’ll never forget where I was when I saw that fight today…

Posted May 4, 2013 9:59 pm 


Alonzo

Klit did say some positive things about Wilder. It’d give the Americans the best shot at a title since the great Calvin Brock. rPianeta has a huge set of stones (knackers) very brave young man.

Posted May 4, 2013 9:28 pm 


Alonzo

Ali defenses:Wepner, Ron “Old” Lyle, Richard “Call me Pianeta” Dunn, Evangelista, Coopman. Top contenders guys.

Posted May 4, 2013 9:23 pm 


harry

60-3, 52 KO’S AT THE AGE OF 37!!! THAT’S UNIQUE FOR A SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT. IN FACT VLADIMIR KLICHKO IS THE MOST DOMINANT SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT OF ALL TIME, THE BEST SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT OF ALL TIME. JOE LOUIS AND CLAY WERE NOT SUPERHEAVYWEIGHTS.

Posted May 4, 2013 9:13 pm 


BEARS

K2 fan- my man!

Posted May 4, 2013 9:07 pm 


Boxnation

£10 a month for all the fights, PPV £50 for 1 fight, you can do the maths.

Posted May 4, 2013 9:00 pm 


K-2- Fan

Bears ; has the beat !

Posted May 4, 2013 9:00 pm 


Brewsters Millions

He had to spend all the money, to get paid, go figure.

Posted May 4, 2013 8:53 pm 


BEARS

I bet pianetta would’ve made a good opponent for joe louis compared to some o the guys louis fought

Posted May 4, 2013 8:47 pm 


BEARS

Josh- of course I would favor wlad against purritty, brewster and sanders. Peak wlad. This wlad. It would be like thebrewster rematch even in fight one brewster had never been dropped b4. Wlad dumped him twice. Brewster never knocked wlad down. Wlad tripped over the refs feet. Watch it. As I said klitschkos would be avored against anyone in my book. I would favor lennox against anyone not named klitschko as well. The 3 great super heavyweights klitschkos and lennox. Best of all time

Posted May 4, 2013 8:41 pm 


Fortune Teller

Absolutely loaded.

Posted May 4, 2013 8:33 pm 


K-2- Fan

The winning bid for Wlad / Povetkin fight was over 23mil. Wlad gets 75%
or 17.5 mil . Not bad for an evening’s work ! I wonder if any of the trolls that constantly diss the Klitchkos , can even IMAGINE how much 17.5 mil. is ?

Posted May 4, 2013 8:27 pm 


Wilbury

The Beatles would of clashed with the rolling stone, stopped it and got over it and went on to do whatever beatles do and that.

Posted May 4, 2013 8:18 pm 


Granger

True: “Ali is a myth. He was never as good as advertised. It was all mouth and hype. Frazier was freaking fat at 209 lbs and shorter than Tyson. He was also one armed and one eyed…..yet he whipped Ali’s ass and knocked him down. Only to be destroyed easily by a slow as hell Foreman with ease. He couldn’t take a punch. But he could take a 30 punch combo from Ali without blinking. Ali was literally knocked out by a lightheavy in Cooper and needed to be saved.”

Posted May 4, 2013 8:15 pm 


JT154lbsChamp

Wlad won tonite. Hes climbing the ATG ladder. Why can’t we respect Wlad for his dominance today. We must also respect those greats in the past. Ali Louis Marciano were all great. Can they beat Wlad, sounds like a tall order. Fans of boxing don’t have to agree on who wins the dream matchups but they must agree on greatness. So Wlad lost to Sanders, he learned from it. He mastered a new style and got tough in there. Ali fought the best of his era as did Wlad. So Ali was little. Make it a reason why he loses to Wlad but don’t use it to diminish his accomplishments. He was the best of his time just as Wlad is the best of his time.

Posted May 4, 2013 8:13 pm 


Chip N Dale

A good big man beats a great little man. A great big man dominates a great little man…….

Posted May 4, 2013 8:06 pm 


Chip N Dale

W Klit is the most athletic boxer I have ever seen for his size. The greats of the past would be neutralized by his skill, reach, jab, height, and sheer size and strength. He is not a lumbering oaf like Canara or Valuev. It is simply another weight class than the HW’s of the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s

Posted May 4, 2013 8:04 pm 


Clay County

RIGHT ON,HARRY……….

Posted May 4, 2013 8:03 pm 


matthews

Problem is the old timers feel he is nothing more than a modern version of Canera. Valuev I could understand.

Posted May 4, 2013 7:55 pm 


KO 1

What about the Clash between the Rolling Stones and the Beatles, who was the best.

Posted May 4, 2013 7:53 pm 


Anonymous

run away josh and learn something about boxing. brewster was destroyed in the rematch, byrd got his ass kicked twice by vlad and only “won” the vitali fight because vitali was forced to retire with an injury (byrd was losing badly), lewis was behind on all 3 cards at the time of the stoppage and ran from a rematch and vitali took care of sanders. run far away josh.

Posted May 4, 2013 7:53 pm 


Anonymous

shane has the beat.

Posted May 4, 2013 7:47 pm 


Shane

Ali is a myth. He was never as good as advertised. It was all mouth and hype. Frazier was freaking fat at 209 lbs and shorter than Tyson. He was also one armed and one eyed…..yet he whipped Ali’s ass and knocked him down. Only to be destroyed easily by a slow as hell Foreman with ease. He couldn’t take a punch. But he could take a 30 punch combo from Ali without blinking. Ali was literally knocked out by a lightheavy in Cooper and needed to be saved. Lost to Norton twice who had zero punch resistance UNLESS Ali was hitting him. Ali had NOTHING to suggest he could beat Klitschko. Too small and not enough pop to even keep either honest. Wlad has never had trouble with non.punchers.

Posted May 4, 2013 7:44 pm 


Chip N Dale

The only realistic, current challenge to Vlad out there, based on merit and size, is Pulev. But that being said, I think Wlad would dominate. He is simply too big, too athletic, and too good. He has another 4-5 years of dominance….

Posted May 4, 2013 7:37 pm 


Jason

Wlad great at what he does. Defenite HoF … Or even AtG… But I don’t like his style , too stiff and too much grabbing for me.. But hey that’s just my opinion as a fan

Posted May 4, 2013 7:35 pm 


K-2- Fan

Like it or not boys , Klitchko STILL Champion and KING !

Posted May 4, 2013 7:34 pm 


matthews

On another note, WK still taping Hayden. I thought he was done with her. Must be good.yl

Posted May 4, 2013 7:31 pm 


KO 1

No one has explained the Povetkin fight yet, escrow account, who controls the fight, will it happen, will it not, who has the know how.

Posted May 4, 2013 7:28 pm 


josh

“But either klitschko is badass and would be favored against every past era fighter. At least to me”

hahaha apart from lewis,byrd,sanders and Brewster??? haha i’m outta here

Posted May 4, 2013 7:20 pm 


Granger

(1) L. Lewis, (2) W. Klitschko, (3) V. Klitschko, (4) Louis (5) Tyson (6) Holyfield (7) Marciano (8) Ali (9) Foreman (10) Dempsey.

Posted May 4, 2013 7:19 pm 


BEARS

Sam pter went through the “klitschko meat grinder” meaning he fought multiple klitschko fights with both brothers THAT’S what destroyed sam peter. If foreman or ali or frazier fought multiple fights with both brothers they would be destroyed too. Wlad and vitaly together in any era would wreck shop, wreak havoc, and brutalize. They render fighters damaged goods. Too many power shots from the klitschkos in just one bout. But either klitschko is badass and would be favored against every past era fighter. At least to me

Posted May 4, 2013 7:17 pm 


harry

josh = old stupid narrow minded American patriot. CLAY IS A 28-4, 8 KO’S SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT! IF VLAD TAKES ON SUCH OPPONENT TODAY YOU WOULD CALL THE GUY BUM!!!

Posted May 4, 2013 7:13 pm 


josh

the fact some on here call frazier and ali feather fisted says it all about their knowledge – see ya kids laters

Posted May 4, 2013 7:12 pm 


clit licker

cooney was a hope not a champion.

Posted May 4, 2013 7:10 pm 


KO 1

Ali v Wlad Klitschko, if they were fighting at the same time, same training, same awareness of diet etc, Klitschko would be slightly bigger, but Ali had his know how, I don’t know who would win.

Posted May 4, 2013 7:09 pm 


Granger

Even the tiny and feather fisted Frasier destroyed Ali, what a joke! Ali would have hugged and ran from Klitschko until he finally succumbed to the punishment and hit the mat. Vitali would have also easily beat Ali. I saw Ali struggle with total bums and those of us who saw the unfiltered Ali know he was a lot of hype and hot air.

Posted May 4, 2013 7:08 pm 


josh

granger

so do you consider wlad the best heavyweight of all time then? seriously where do you rank him

Posted May 4, 2013 7:05 pm 


Granger

Josh, your just aplain old hater. Did you see the records of those Ali was fighting at Wlad’s age? exactly! Total bums. Wlad fights whoever will step up and would have killed (the media hyped) Ali.

Posted May 4, 2013 7:03 pm 


josh

harry

some said klitschko was to big for foreman – the fact is he isn’t

Posted May 4, 2013 7:02 pm 


josh

ali who most experts rank as number 1 or 2 of all time and people on here call him weak punch bag haha

Posted May 4, 2013 7:01 pm 


KO 1

Povetkin would lose anyway, even if he had a crash helmet, that’s my guess.

Posted May 4, 2013 7:00 pm 


harry

Josh your a laughingstock!!! you compare a punchbag like Cooney to the master Vladimir KlichKO and see no difference??? go watch nascar fool! stupid patriot!

Posted May 4, 2013 6:59 pm 


josh

BEARS

boxing is about levels though – sanders and Brewster in all time great terms are complete bums as is sam peter and the rest of wlads opposition for that matter – frazier, ali and foreman are all true atg – someone like cooney or shavers would be wlads toughest ever opponent – in them days you had to beat the best to be number 1 you couldn’t pick mormecks, pianetas, wachs and call yourself an atg

Posted May 4, 2013 6:58 pm 


BEARS

Nobody compares wlad to cooney. Lol @ josh

Posted May 4, 2013 6:57 pm 


Richard Bulger

Damn! Man, Wladimir looks like Hercules. He has muscles on top of muscles. Strong man and Dominating HW Champion. Next up is Povetkin, then Pulev which will round out this year and then Wilder in 1st qtr 2014.

Posted May 4, 2013 6:56 pm 


BEARS

No they wouldn’t agree josh. Just like nobody says neither sanders or brewster is better than wlad. Pretty much everyone thinks they would get smashed in rematches like brewster. Moreover, everyone thinks “styles make fights” so you can’t say becaue brewster and sanders pulled off a win someone else would. Wlad then and now are two different fighters. Wlad is nothing today like he was before steward. Thousandfold improvement. Frazier beat ali. Foreman lost to ali and beat frazier. The formula is noth the best. Its just one formula. At the end of the day. Tyles make fights. Cornelius “corrie” sanders has much faster hands than george forema

Posted May 4, 2013 6:54 pm 


josh

wlad is 1.98m same as Gerry cooney – go look what foreman did to cooney

Posted May 4, 2013 6:54 pm 


KO 1

So if the money for the fight is put in an Escrow account, do K2 have to take the fight, wherever it is and they have no control over rematch clauses etc, can someone explain.

Posted May 4, 2013 6:50 pm 


harry

60-3, 52 KNOCKOUTS!!!! THAT’S WHAT I CALL THE BEST SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT OF ALL TIME!!!

Posted May 4, 2013 6:49 pm 


josh

if sanders and Brewster could ko wlad then foreman would do easily – proper boxing historians would all agree on that I reckon

Posted May 4, 2013 6:47 pm 


harry

josh you have no clue about boxing. keep dreaming fool

Posted May 4, 2013 6:47 pm 


BEARS

No foreman would never get past either klitschkos jab like he couldn’t get past jimmy youngs and foeman would get klitschko nuclear bomb power shots landed on him from a mile away. Yeah foreman did good against little joe frazier who had one eye and no jab. Klitschkos would foreman faceplant just like ron lyle did!!! LOL

Posted May 4, 2013 6:45 pm 


2josh

Ummmm no? wlad would beat him like he stole something get real lunatic

Posted May 4, 2013 6:43 pm 


BEARS

Let’s not forget jenkins and wilder are gonna be coming to fight. At wilders pace though wlad will be retired before wilder steps up. Wlad is taking the records though and will be number one!

Posted May 4, 2013 6:43 pm 


josh

the foreman that smashed frazier and Norton would ko wlad the f*** out

Posted May 4, 2013 6:40 pm 


Povetkin not ready

Povetjin Ready?

Posted May 4, 2013 6:39 pm 


laj

The only decent fighters Foreman, Ali, Frazier fought were Foreman, Ali, Frazier. That made it seem great, but when have they have to pull in Wilt to fight Ali, it doesn’t say that much for the era I grew up in. By the way Sanders was over 6’4″ and around 240lbs, Foreman 6’3″ and until he got fat was fighting around 226lbs. He seemed huge because the fighters back then were smaller. Again all fighters have their weaknesses and bad nights. Think Ali/Spinks (the worst champion of all time).

Posted May 4, 2013 6:38 pm 


BEARS

Jim rome recently had wlad on his show and rome said wlad would ko ali. Ali was little and was definetly feather fisted. Would never be able to accumulate on ether klitschko. 180 pound bert cooper FLOORED ALI. Ali’s team had 2 cheat in that bout as well. Ali’s a great fighter. But ali beating a 6’8 250 pound range master powerhouse like either klitschko or even lennox lewis is a stretch. Analysts do not favor ali. Its ok if some of u do though

Posted May 4, 2013 6:38 pm 


BEARS

Axul shulz and jimmy young wooped foremans ass. Brewster and sanders vs foreman would be very interesting. Either guy could drop foreman. What version of foremn are we talkin too? 220 pound or fatty fat fat?

Posted May 4, 2013 6:32 pm 


matthews

K2 said they are not taking any fight until that 17 mil hits an escrow account.

Posted May 4, 2013 6:30 pm 


BEARS

Guys have to rise up to face wlad and become mandatories like thompson did. Like pulev and fury ar doing. Like povetkin had done. Like stiverne had done. Like haye will do. Beyond that wlad can fight whatever voluntaries he wants to. And wach was a damn good one. I hope pianetta can go on and do more. What a great guy. Wladimir vs povetkin!!!! How about jameel mccline and lou dibella!!! Also how about te little statistics and greatness piece on wlad dan rafael did. Pretty badass

Posted May 4, 2013 6:29 pm 


huckster

haye-pulev fell apart . . . fury-pulev, it is up to fury. if not, pulev-wlad 2013!

Posted May 4, 2013 6:28 pm 


josh

also sanders and Brewster aren’t bigger than foreman – foreman would have koed both with ease too

Posted May 4, 2013 6:27 pm 


KO 1

May not take the fight.

Posted May 4, 2013 6:26 pm 


KO 1

The Povetkin went to purse bids, so K2 have no control over the it, it’s in Russia I think, he may even take the fight because of that.

Posted May 4, 2013 6:25 pm 


josh

In the worst era of heavyweight boxing Wlad has been koed 3 times – to call Ali feather fisted is just a joke hahaha – how can you compare wlads opposition to the guys foreman ali frazier fought!

Posted May 4, 2013 6:25 pm 


Biil

Wlad is a boring fighter. He pushes his jab. The greats of yesteryear would have owned him.

Posted May 4, 2013 6:25 pm 


KO 1

You get n with it, all this setting up of fights, for the most money, you don’t wait for anybody.

Posted May 4, 2013 6:23 pm 


matthews

Trips me out how people are trying to build povetkin as some sort of BIG fight. Whats to get excited about. Alex ran for three years and they are probably trying to figure out how to poison some water bottles or find refs which see kds as slips and judges on the take. Or better yet DQ for wlads lack of inside game. That’s why the dude put so much money on the fight. They cooking up something because they know its povs only chance.

Posted May 4, 2013 6:21 pm 


laj

Wlad is an ATG, and is already mentioned with the likes of Ali and Louis. To say otherwise is not facing reality. All the fighters Wlad has lost to were many years ago, and they were all bigger than George. Ali was a light puncher and he stopped George. Feather puncher Young even knocked George down. Fact is young George had some stamina issues, every fighter has their weakness, Ali never saw a left hook he didn’t want to eat. Wlad has over come his weaknesses and has not been even challenged for 8 years, give the man some respect.

Posted May 4, 2013 6:21 pm 


Killing Moon

Morons…When was wlad last down 2005…+20 fights ago….Alot happens in that timeperiod…..It is not that easy to get Wlad down…

Posted May 4, 2013 6:20 pm 


josh

trouble is he hand picks his opponents – mormeck. pianeta, wach, thompson have all been terrible opponents

Posted May 4, 2013 6:18 pm 


huckster

pulev-wlad 2013!

Posted May 4, 2013 6:17 pm 


KO 1

Wlad Klitchko does fight at leat three times a year, already 60 fights in his career, that is very good.

Posted May 4, 2013 6:17 pm 


josh

wlad isn’t that great really just good at what he does – it has been proven before you just have to get in close and he can be put down easily – Foreman was a monster – Wlad is just a good techinal jab on the outside type fighter – no way lamon Brewster or corrie sanders would beat Foreman and Peter wouldn’t have put Foreman down either

Posted May 4, 2013 6:15 pm 


laj

WK hits much harder than Huck, and the Povetkin fight he wouldn’t be playing around like today. Pov is an excellent fighter, but he does not have any advantage over Wlad other than some good in-fighting. Doubt he will be able to get inside the big man. Love Frazier, but Frazier against Wlad is like Foreman against Frazier, but Wlad is much faster. Tyson would have been tougher, as he could hit with both hands. But that would have been the Tyson that was only in his prime for 3-4 yrs. Any other Tyson would be raw meat.

Posted May 4, 2013 6:12 pm 


josh

by far put could povetkin get close and swing away? If e could he could ko Wlad but i’m pretty sure he’s to slow and doesn’t bob and weave much

Posted May 4, 2013 6:11 pm 


Coucou

K 2 promotion is a disgrace, what the hell Pianeta did to deserve this chance ?
Having beaten a 150 yrs old combined of Mc call and Botha ?

Posted May 4, 2013 6:10 pm 


Anonymous

povetkin is in trouble.

Posted May 4, 2013 6:10 pm 


matthews

Depends. Does WK punch harder than Huck.

Posted May 4, 2013 6:06 pm 


josh

Would Povetkin have much of a chance? seems to me that if you can get in Wladimir’s face and land on him panics as he cant fight at all on the inside – trouble is it is so damn hard to get inside his jab – a big punching bob and weaver like Tyson or Frazier would have been a nightmare to Wladimir

Posted May 4, 2013 6:05 pm 


matthews

Against leftys wlad dont have much of a jab.

Posted May 4, 2013 6:04 pm 


matthews

Wlad threw a few body shots. Pianeta did try. He was swinging for the fences.

Posted May 4, 2013 6:03 pm 


laj

Didn’t like the way Wlad was using his left. Bad habit to me, when you have the best jab in the game us it like a jab. Seems to me Wlad was carrying him by not snapping the jab, and he wasn’t really committing to his shots. Still props to Wlad for giving the gent a payday

Posted May 4, 2013 6:02 pm 


Anonymous

fantastic performance by the great wladimir.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:56 pm 


knowall

That was dreadful. What a joke

Posted May 4, 2013 5:53 pm 


3

Lol, the fight is already on Youtube.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:52 pm 


Anonymous

simply sign up for your 14 day trial and have at it.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:52 pm 


Big Jake

The Italian came to fight, unlike most Wald opponents, most looking for a hiding place.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:52 pm 


badger

Hope to see this. Need to know how to get on epix

Posted May 4, 2013 5:50 pm 


Anonymous

mccline a nice addition to the epix team.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:50 pm 


Anonymous

pianeta a tough kid.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:49 pm 


Anonymous

another day at the office for wladimir.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:48 pm 


Paddy O’Trenchant

No surprises.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:48 pm 


Box Clever

Pianeta crying in ring.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:45 pm 


Anonymous

pianeta weeping. emtional young man.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:44 pm 


Killing Moon

Great pacey fight….Wlad looked very good and Pianeta in all in mode from round 1….I was entertained(and surprised) which is not something i’ll say about every Wlad Klitschko fight….Good start on this boxing night

Posted May 4, 2013 5:44 pm 


Anonymous

inching closer to thaat defense record.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:43 pm 


Granger

WOW, KLITSCHKO EASILY DISPATCHES ANOTHER UNDEFEATED HW. AT THIS AGE ALI WAS BARELY BEATING BUMS WHO HAD MORE LOSSES THAN WINS. KLITSCHKO BEATS ALIE EASILY!!

Posted May 4, 2013 5:41 pm 


Anonymous

huge crowd showing their appreciation for the great wladimir.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:40 pm 


Box Clever

Those idiots who call wlad a boring robot should look at this fight. Exciting showing from start to finish. Hats off ti pianetta

Posted May 4, 2013 5:40 pm 


super ko

this fight stinks these guys are known to fight euro bums pianeta never fought any one but you gave him a title garbage fight

Posted May 4, 2013 5:39 pm 


Anonymous

pianeta gave it his all. courageous young lad.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:38 pm 


Anonymous

beautiful ko.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:37 pm 


Lenin

Big combo from Vlad. Pianeta back on his feet at count 8, but cannot fight anymore. Fight is over, Klitschko wins by TKO. Pianeta fought bravely for 5 rounds, though. The last two rounds – not so much.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:36 pm 


Box Clever

Fair play to the Italian. Great heart. Good scrap this, I’m enjoying it!

Posted May 4, 2013 5:34 pm 


KO 1

Pianeta needs to win the next 7 rounds now, he is way behind on points.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:33 pm 


Anonymous

target practice.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:33 pm 


Lenin

Round 5 also 10-8 for Klitschko. This should be over within the next 2 rounds. Nevertheless, Pianeta is trying his best.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:32 pm 


Lenin

Pianeta down again in round 5, but still going forward occassionally. Brave heart!

Posted May 4, 2013 5:30 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

So far another Klitschko stinker with the ref on the payroll. Jameel had the beat on the Klit “jab”…

Posted May 4, 2013 5:30 pm 


Killing Moon

I actually think this has been great so far…But the end could be nearing…Mad probs for pineta to go all in from the get go

Posted May 4, 2013 5:29 pm 


Anonymous

pianeta a warrior.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:29 pm 


Lenin

Pianeta barely survives round 4. This round goes to Klitschko 10-8.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:28 pm 


Lenin

Pianeta down in the 4th and in big trouble now.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:27 pm 


KO 1

Klitschko should just step it up and take Pianeta out.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:27 pm 


Anonymous

pianeta fearless.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:24 pm 


Lenin

Another round for Klitschko. BUT: Pianeta has landed in the first 2 rounds more than Haye did in 12!

Posted May 4, 2013 5:24 pm 


Curtis Lowe

Surprised Walker last 10 rounds with that spar tire he was sporting, 15 pounds overweight.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:22 pm 


Lenin

Round 2 also to Klitschko. Pianeta landed some, but was a standing target practice dummy too often.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:21 pm 


Anonymous

vlad heating up.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:20 pm 


Anonymous

pianeta is game.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:16 pm 


Lenin

First round for Klitschko, although Pianeta landed a few. Nothing spectacular happened.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:16 pm 


Killing Moon

Let’s get it on !!…Thinking Ud for wlad.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:11 pm 


Lenin

Or Boytsov.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:11 pm 


Lenin

Don’t care about Haye, but Pulev would be an interesting opponent. Unfortunately, it’ll be the WBA second class hw “champion” Povetkin, if he dares to enter the ring with Vlad. After that… I really hope it’ll be Pulev. Abdusalamov would also be an interesting opponent. Fury isn’t ready yet, and Helenius needs to lose the ring rust.

Posted May 4, 2013 5:09 pm 



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